The Media’s War Against Liz Cheney
Liz Cheney is sending fervent Obama fans into a tizzy. First, Maureen Dowd, the most overrated op-ed columnist writing today, penned the most mean spirited column she has ever written and perhaps the most inaccurate. She accuses Ms. Cheney of “regarding bipartisanship with the same contempt as multilateralism and multiculturalism,” and along with her father and sister, of leading “the charge against Obama, painting him as a wishy-washy loser who turned America to mush.”
There is nothing as crude as exaggerating a serious critique of Obama’s foreign policy, one that Liz Cheney regularly makes with aplomb and dignity, by dumbing it down to make Cheney sound absurd. Dowd is obviously furious that Cheney along with Bill Kristol and others have formed a new group, Keep America Safe, that seeks to heighten public awareness of the need to come together as a nation and demand a policy that protects our national security.
Dowd is scornful that Cheney charges Obama will “make America weaker.” After all, didn’t the Nobel Prize Committee respond to its critics by saying that Obama won the prize for contributing to a “world with less tension.” But as Sean Curvyn writes on his website, “It’s a less tense world. Tell that to the Chinese dissidents…By conceding to the Russians on missile defense, he is reducing “tension” with Putin. By granting the Iranians further stages of delay before there are any real consequences for their pursuit of nuclear weapons, he is reducing “tension” with the Persians.” As he quips aptly, “if only he could reduce tension with Fox News.”
Another commentator who agrees is Marty Peretz, editor-in-chief of The New Republic as his recent “Spine” blogs at TNR’s website makes clear. As he writes today , “Obama hasn’t reset the American relationship with Russia. He was taken for a ride. Maybe his vanity won’t let him admit it. But, believe me, the Russians know they have taken him (and us) for a big ride, indeed.” Obama, he adds, gave the Russians what they asked for, in the hope that Putin would then agree to tough sanctions against Iran. Secretary Clinton then goes to Russia, only to be informed by Putin that his government does not believe sanctions are appropriate. As Peretz concludes: “Of course, if you don’t ask, you don’t get. In fact, with the Russians, if you don’t demand and threaten a little, you get zero.”
The Obama administration should be very worried now that it is losing the support of Marty Peretz on matters pertaining to Israel and national defense. Other center-left Democrats are sure to follow. Only hard-core leftists will remain within the fold. This virtually guarantees Obama won’t be reelected in 2012. No longer will the middle-of-the-road voters perceive him as a moderate able to reach across the aisle.
The Editor-in-Chief of TNR is doubtlessly experiencing something of a dark night of the soul. He still is on board with Obama regarding abortion and wealth redistribution issues. Alan Dershowitz, Peretz’s Harvard University buddy, is unwisely pretending that he can eat and have his cake at the same time. Life is cruel. Both men must decide on what is truly important to them.
Celebritarianism, which is founded on the quality of personal attractiveness, has long been one of the most potent weapons in the Left’s arsenal, It’s natural that they should want to deny it to conservatives and libertarians. The media’s treatment of Ann Coulter, Laura Ingraham, and other attractive conservative women should have given their game away long before this.
How interesting, I’ve never heard Liz Cheney say this about Obama “…a wishy-washy loser who turned America to mush”, how interesting that MoDo did. She may be right.
I keep hoping that women everywhere will wake up and realize that liberals do not have your interests at heart, gender is always going to be last of the interest groups to be supported. 2008 provided some big clues!
I am concerned for the MSM, they are waging so many wars against fake enemies they will have little energy left to fight for their own survival. Oh wait…right…that’s it…keep focusing on Liz Cheney. And Breitbart. Fox. Palin. TEA Parties. Maybe President “wishy-washy” will help fund your war because more and more of us aren’t buying what you are selling. I am willing to contributed a six pack of “man up” for those who cannot bear to be…snif…sob…disagreed with. Oh the tragedy!
Funny thing: with a little bit of tweaking in tone, I would regard most of those insults as compliments, although I know they weren’t meant that way. Ms Cheney will be another strong conservative voice.
“How interesting, I’ve never heard Liz Cheney say this about Obama “…a wishy-washy loser who turned America to mush”, how interesting that MoDo did.”
She’s got a habit of that. Remember, she’s the one, in her own mind, heard Wilson say “boy” when he called Barack Obama a liar. I often wonder what her real feelings are about the President.
As for Liz Cheney, I like this woman. And I’m a Democrat. It’s funny, but it’s taken the events of the last 9 months and watching how Barack Obama is handling foreign policy to make me realize that I agree more with conservatives on this issue.
But, Liz is brilliant, and I can see why the media will want to go after here. They don’t like conservatives in general, but they REALLY don’t like conservative women, and especially conservative women with her kind of brains. There’s something very real and “every woman” about Cheney, and the MSM and Democrats just can’t afford for people to like her.
Attractive conservative women scare the hell out of liberals.They wish every conservative woman looked like Barbara Makulski.
Liz is everything Dowd is not – intelligent, informed, witty, attractive, happy about her family and fulfilled with her life.
Liz Cheney for Secretary of Defense and Secretary of State in the Palin administration. Okay, got to choose, where is she most needed?
Liz Cheney, Sarah Palin, Michelle Bachman, Marsha Blackburn, Ann Coulter..they hate them so much because they fear them.
We love them because THEY FIGHT!
O.K I have been thinking about this scenario for some time as we witness America being placed in handcuffs. Think about this, it’s world War Two, your an American solider in the trenches ,the enemy is approaching your commander orders you and your buddy to MOVE and storm the enemy, who would you wish was your buddy ,Obama, Biden, or Dick Cheney ,the choice is obvious Obama would be lying in the fetal position crying, Biden running in the other direction, Cheney would not abandon you,in the event you were injured, now I would go so far as to say I would choose Liz Cheny over the other two cowards. Think in terms of you being America and your buddy is who is protecting you. Honestly I have been very moved by what is happening south of the border Dick Cheney defines the words Elegant Statesman, Patriotic, Caring Proud American he he doesn’t run since the MSM destroyed him,his daughter can save your country.
O.K I have been thinking about this scenario for some time as we witness America being placed in handcuffs. Think about this, it’s world War Two, your an American solider in the trenches ,the enemy is approaching your commander orders you and your buddy to MOVE and storm the enemy, who would you wish was your buddy ,Obama, Biden, or Dick Cheney ,the choice is obvious Obama would be lying in the fetal position crying, Biden running in the other direction, Cheney would not abandon you,in the event you were injured, now I would go so far as to say I would choose Liz Cheny over the other two cowards. Think in terms of you being America and your buddy is who is protecting you. Honestly I have been very moved by what is happening south of the border Dick Cheney defines the words Elegant Statesman, Patriotic, Caring Proud American he won’t run since the MSM destroyed him,his daughter can save your country.
Dowd is no doubt in a rage that she is losing her clout. Not to worry, Mo. You are still the leading contender to replace the cranky dowager Helen Thomas so could you just wait patiently in the wings til she hobbles off stage? Meanwhile, feel free to continue penning your hateful screed. Yes, I can see how Liz Cheney makes the left wing crazy. She speaks with poise, intelligence, without rancor and she is artful in her way of articulating the moderate/conservative point of view. Be afraid, Mo, be very afraid.
That “war” is only in your fevered imagination: Liz Cheney is just minor league neocon nutcase spouting stupid stuff, and the mainstream corporate media has been treating her with much more respect than she deserves, as they have been doing with her criminally irresponsible dad. She is her father’s daughter.
Is she the gay one?
The liberal media (the usual oxymorod) is unnerved by Liz Cheney because they’ve been dealt again a morality tale blow – out of the two girls, Mary, the oh-my-god-she’s-lesbian-she-she’pregnant-etc. this is so progressive, this is what this nation needs, is not on the political track, and the mean Liz, married w/ a man, mother, the un-progressive one, might be on a consequential political achievement track.
And since the liberals are an unusually venomenous type of reptiles, I expect their frenzy in attacking Mary Cheney to go beyond over what Sarah Palin faced -
@15. Now and Then: Hey, that was classy
@14. BC: re: stupid stuff, she called the Noble Peace Prize a “farce” look up the definiition of farce and then make a coherent argument that the Peace Prize is not.
I always find it an indicator of how much the Leftys fear someone by how personally they attack them. Rarely can they find a position to argue a point of fact but they certainly can pile on the hate. Essentially all their argumentys boiol down to, “Yeah, well your mommy is ugly!”.
There’s absolutely no reason anyone should listen to Liz Cheney about anything. Except she’s the daughter of a powerful man. Hurray for our classless America!
BC, thanks for those links, the second of which I had never seen. It provides further evidence that Liz’s words are being twisted by liberal media for their own purposes. “Liz Cheney speaks out in defense of birthers movement,” what a laugh! In the clip, she dismisses them as “crazies” and says Americans have to move forward on national security.
Something similar is happening with Rush Limbaugh right now: liberals can’t find anything in his 20-year career of broadcasting 3 hours per day, 5 days per week that’s racist, so they make it up!
RE #14/15:
BC and N&T, Your anger is understandable – how does someone dare enter the political arena, someone who:
* can prove that she is a naturally born US citizen, with a BC available for examination -
* would allow for scrutiny her kindergarten/school records -
* her college and university degrees available -
* is not known for hooking up with terrorists, crooks, perverts and other type of miscreants -
* wouldn’t engage herself in abti-American activities -
* wouldn’t accept a peace Nobel prize for inexistent activity -
* etc. etc.
Indeed revolting, to see this type of people appearing in the political establishment – but these are the times we live, my friends!
Yes, we still have Barry Soetoro and Mumia Jabal around, but Frank Marshall, Bill Ayres, Tony Rezko, reverend Wright, Jane Fonda, Van Jones and all other luminous, progressive figures we revere are unfortunately things of the past -
Sad, very sad, indeed – this is called decadence -
RE #18/Moho: [...] Except she’s the daughter of a powerful man. Hurray for our classless America! [...]
And this comes from Mojo, who is always driven to the highest levels of ecstasy by Caroline Kennedy’s speeches -
Liz Cheney is trying to defend her Daddy, who is viewed by most of the world and over half the nation as a war criminal. The torture program of Bush/Cheney was evil, illegal, and destroyed our relations with the rest of the world. (And yes, that matters … especially when we’re asking for troops from Great Britain, France, Germany, etc. to help us in someplace like Afghanistan.)
Anybody who stands up to defend the record of Bush/Cheney, particular on torture, deserves to have his/her a** handed to them on a platter.
Re #19/arhooley: [...] liberals can’t find anything in his 20-year career of broadcasting 3 hours per day, 5 days per week that’s racist, so they make it up! [...]
I’d rather describe liberals’ attitudes as being caused by the bizzare normalcy in which they live -
Misanthropicus: None of these are proveN:
* can prove that she is a naturally born US citizen, with a BC available for examination - Can she? Has anyone asked? Or are you relying on her word for it? Can you prove that she’s an American citizen, right now?
* her college and university degrees available - Are they? Have you seen them?
* is not known for hooking up with terrorists, crooks, perverts and other type of miscreants - Define pervert.
* wouldn’t engage herself in abti-American activities -
* wouldn’t accept a peace Nobel prize for inexistent activity -
* etc. etc.
Indeed, these are all baseless assumptions on your part. The fact, that none of these issues is in the least of any importance to our political discourse is inconsequential. The reality is that you believe everything that Liz Cheney tells you without further need of substantiation. Just like a good little authoritarian.
Re BC
again it’s interesting that much of what the critics think is a slam is actually praise. Liz Cheney is truly ‘her father’s daughter’ Dick Cheney is a no nonsense advocate for America and keeping the US strong. Liz is every bit of the same.
I have seen her on several talk shows. She does not accept the false premise of many quesions and is knowledgeable enough to reframe the issue correctly and not back down to anyone. Her appearance on FOX News Sunday was great and she was head and shoulders above any of the other panelists, especially Juan Williams, who had the good sense to let her talk when she was correcting him. I hope she never gets to the point of wanting to become one of the pundit class and play the game as seen with George Will and Bill Kristol in some cases.
* wouldn’t engage herself in abti-American activities -
Really? Let’s see:
- She’s defending a war criminal and the man who drove the bus to illegally make torture U.S. policy.
- She’s defending the man who pushed for a moronic attack on Iraq
- She’s defending the man who ignored the war in Afghanistan, putting large chunks back under Taliban control.
- She’s defending the man who pushed to illegally suspend habeas corpus.
- She’s defending the man who pissed on the Constitution and said the President had unlimited power.
- She’s defending the man who claimed he was in a safe zone where he could pick and choose whether he was in the Executive Branch or Legislative Branch, depending upon how the rules suited him.
Oh, yeah, he also said “deficits don’t matter.”
So yes, she is currently engaging in anti-American activities. She’s not only defending a criminal who failed in his sworn duty to uphold the Constitution, she’s defending his un-Constitutional policies.
Liz Cheney is a traitor to America. She is faithful to Daddy over country.
RE #23/Mojo:
In my previous #22 I described the liberals’ world as “bizzare normalcy”, and this is a correct representation, uniformly accepted by scientists and normal people (i.e. non-liberal, non-Obama supporters) – and for this reason I didn’t provide any evidence regarding the strange normalcy in cause.
However, mojo, by immediately rusheing in his #23, provided a timely and poignant illustration of liberal un-hingeness and silliness -
Ladies and gentlement, please include Mojo’s rant in your collection delicious liberal idiocies -
PS. Mojo, your “Just like a good little authoritarian” conclusion indeed made my day – still:
Can you prove that I am little?
Have you seen my vaccination certificates?
Prove that I was born in Samarkand in, or around 1843 -
Define certificate -
Define “indeed” -
Prove that I am not Frank Marshall -
Complete and utter nonsense.
Why would anyone even have her on the T.V.? What makes her opinion matter in the least? She adds nothing.
The media is simply giving the pulpit to another wingnut to spread more lies and disinformation.
Nice try misanthropicus, but you responded to none of my points. In our society, people are innocent until proven guilty. When you make an accusation, its up to you to prove it or shut it. But this is where you people run off the rails. Its up to Obama to prove your accusations aren’t true, while Liz Cheney gets a pass. That’s the heart of uncritical, visceral political discourse, and what makes you authoritarian. No, I don’t have any proof that you’re little–and that’s just the point. Using your logic, I don’t have to prove any of my accusations, because I don’t like you. Its up to you now to disprove them, via your own formulations. Good luck with that.
And this comes from Mojo, who is always driven to the highest levels of ecstasy by Caroline Kennedy’s speeches -
On top of it, you can’t seem to make any points without lying. Never mentioned Caroline Kennedy. Nor will you find any post here where I have an orgasm because the child of a wealthy politician is given a position of influence s/he hasn’t earned. That’s your thing, not mine.
I think Liz Cheney is great. I hope she does run for office, or at least keeps a very high national profile. We really need more people like her.
I wish the lefties could stop with the racism and sexism in general, but it apparently is working for them, for now, anyhow.
15. Now and Then: No, that would be your messiah.
18. Moho:And your messiah’s reason for being elected? Experience? Something like that? Other than making white liberals feel good about themselves…
This is too funny. These leftist reruns are getting a little old aren’t they?
Oh my look , it is a conservative female, let’s go bash her, let’s just make up whatever we want to and call her names, that ought to take care of her.
Same scenario over and over. If a person belongs to any of the lefts “groups” and you stray from the herd you will be attacked.
You can’t possibly be female, black, hispanic, gay, anything else? and be conservative unless you have lost your mind as far as the leftist is concerned.
They want you to believe this.
Thinking Democrats need to take notice of the treatment their brothers and sisters must endure when they are not in step with the leftist program 100%.
The hard left does not have your best interest at heart. Not by a long shot.
What, you can’t be a success as a woman unless you subscribe to a Murine Dowd state of mind?
Intelligent free thinking individuals need not apply…..
There is no room for you in the leftist tent.
Just look at the post by the 3 or 4 resident leftist trolls.
They might as well just cut and paste their previous post from a year ago, the same canned lines over and over, stay on message ….they do not debate issues they push agendas and ideology.
The majority of the time their post are nothing more than name calling hate. That’s just about all they got.
(they don’t have the capacity to think for themselves)
Conscientious democrats might want to take a hard look at the direction their party has gone and decide if that direction is what they think is in the best interest for their and their children’s future.
The radical left is not your friend.
If you think that by feeding and pacifying the alligator he won’t eat you when the time comes you are fooling yourself.
Must be more than a media war – look at the concentration of trolls on a Liz Cheney post. Wonder why they see such a threat in attractive articulate conservative women…
Baal:
And your messiah’s reason for being elected? Experience? Something like that? Other than making white liberals feel good about themselves
I’m trying to find a post where I mentioned that Obama is my messiah? Or that I even support him. Feel free to help, that would probably be the first time you’ve been of use to anyone.
RE #25/jharp: [...] Complete and utter nonsense. [..] The media is simply giving the pulpit to another wingnut to spread more lies and disinformation. [..]
The Obama’s Nobel Peace Prize issue finally addressed by the courageous jharp!
Thanks god, someone has the courage to unmask Barrack Obama and unveil the machinations behind his being awarded the Nobel Prize!
Go, jharp, go! You are the one – and your courageous actions will certainly make Obama’s BC issue topple him, in spite the reactionary media’s obfuscations!
Janet, America is saved! Jharp is here, has proved Obama as a dangerous Manchurian president & New Normalcy mole! Thanks god!
Obama can see Russia from his knees.
The culturally jaded, who have been well described as the downtowners by Charles Adler in “The Ballad of Stephen (Ringo) Harper”, which is here: http://www.charlesadler.com/2009/10/-the-ballad-of-stephen-ringo-harper.html cannot stand it when a countering, and compelling narrative is communicated.
They crucified Margaret Thatcher as well.
Once again, my quip is proven: Beware the intolerance of those who preach tolerance.
30. Moho:You don’t support Obama? Please, tell me more!
@ Moho
“Except she’s the daughter of a powerful man. Hurray for our classless America!”
First, her pedigree has nothing to do with her class, and you’re looking at the wrong one, anyway.
Class:
7. a social stratum sharing basic economic, political, or cultural characteristics, and having the same social position: Artisans form a distinct class in some societies.
8. the system of dividing society; caste.
9. social rank, esp. high rank.
Second, Liz Cheney’s Wikipage. Rather than someone who rode the coattails of a “powerful man” — like Hillary Clinton, Michelle Obama or Caroline Kennedy — what we see here is a smart, capable woman with a firm grasp of policy and who worked very had to reach the professional levels she attained (most recently, the Iran Syria Policy and Operations Group (ISOG), established in March 2006, a unit within the State Department’s Bureau of Near Eastern Affairs).
Cheney graduated from McLean High School in 1984. She received her bachelor’s degree from Colorado College, where she wrote her senior thesis, “The Evolution of Presidential War Powers,” in 1988.[1] She received her Juris Doctor (J.D.) degree from the University of Chicago Law School in 1996, having also taken courses in Middle Eastern history at the Oriental Institute.[2]
Cheney is married to Philip Perry, the former General Counsel of the US Department of Homeland Security. She and Perry have five children: three daughters, Kate, Elizabeth, and Grace; and two sons, Philip and Richard.
Before attending law school, Cheney worked for the State Department for five years and the U.S. Agency for International Development between 1989 and 1993. After 1993, she took a job at Armitage Associates LLP, the consulting firm founded by Richard Armitage, then a former Defense Department official and Iran-Contra operative who later served as Deputy Secretary of State.
After graduating from law school, Cheney practiced law in the private sector (at the law firm of White & Case) and as an international law attorney and consultant at the International Finance Corporation, a member of the World Bank Group. She has also served as Special Assistant to the Deputy Secretary of State for Assistance to the former Soviet Union, and as a USAID officer in U.S. embassies in Budapest and Warsaw.[3]
Jim Treacher, you are a certified genius with deadly one-liners!
18. Moho:
There’s absolutely no reason anyone should listen to Liz Cheney about anything. Except she’s the daughter of a powerful man. Hurray for our classless America!
Oct 15, 2009 – 6:53 am
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So, don’t listen. I’m sure she couldn’t care less whether peons behind a computer keyboard throw darts at her. She could kick your butt with both hands tied behind her back, and you know it. Oh, and that would be BEFORE she even starts thinking about it.
I will have to pay more attention to her. The left is just flipping out about her. They are not able or willing to talk about her points. They are trying to slander her. They are trying to marginalize her. Those are enough reasons to convince me that she is the real deal.
Gotta love it when liberals try to demean opponents. No one has more demean able politicians than they. Just look at Obama. No one has less experience and less knowledge about the real world and this countries history then he. He makes Hillary look like Margaret Thatcher, Indira Gandhi and JFK in comparison.
#18 Moho, refers to Liz Cheney saying “stupid stuff.” I clicked on the link and Liz Cheney said that if the President sent a Gold Star Mom to accept the Nobel Prize it would remind the Nobel Committee that each of them sleep soundly at night because the US military is the greatest peacekeeping force today. How is that “stupid stuff”?
LOL @ wikipedia re Dick Armitage “a former Iran Contra operative”.
18. Moho writes: “There’s absolutely no reason anyone should listen to Liz Cheney about anything. Except she’s the daughter of a powerful man. Hurray for our classless America!”
You might want to rethink your statement after reading more about her accomplishments. My impression is that she has accomplished more and has had more positions of actual responsibility than the Magic Negro has. True, she does not have a Nobel Peace prize, but I’ll wager she could get a lot more done in 12 days that Obama did to earn it.
Wikipedia excerpts:
..She received her bachelor’s degree from Colorado College, where she wrote her senior thesis, “The Evolution of Presidential War Powers,” in 1988.[1] She received her Juris Doctor (J.D.) degree from the University of Chicago Law School in 1996, having also taken courses in Middle Eastern history at the Oriental Institute.[2]
Early career
Before attending law school, Cheney worked for the State Department for five years and the U.S. Agency for International Development between 1989 and 1993. After 1993, she took a job at Armitage Associates LLP, the consulting firm founded by Richard Armitage, then a former Defense Department official and Iran-Contra operative who later served as Deputy Secretary of State.
After graduating from law school, Cheney practiced law in the private sector (at the law firm of White & Case) and as an international law attorney and consultant at the International Finance Corporation, a member of the World Bank Group. She has also served as Special Assistant to the Deputy Secretary of State for Assistance to the former Soviet Union, and as a USAID officer in U.S. embassies in Budapest and Warsaw.[3]
Deputy Assistant Secretary of State for Near Eastern Affairs
In 2002, Cheney was appointed to the position of Deputy Assistant Secretary of State for Near Eastern Affairs, a pre-existing vacant post with an “economic portfolio,” which is a mandate to promote investment in the region. Amid reports, including a New York Times editorial by Paul Krugman, saying that the job was created especially for her, State Department spokesman Richard Boucher said that she had come recommended by then-Secretary of State Colin Powell. The Times (London) reported that Cheney’s appointment was “the most intriguing sign that America is getting serious about Middle East reform” and that the appointment was “a measure of the seriousness with which the administration was taking Middle East programmes for literacy, education, and reform.” The appointment followed publicized policy divisions between the Vice President’s office and the State Department on Middle East policy. In that position, she was given control of the Middle East Partnership Initiative, designed to “foster increased democracy and economic progress in a troubled region.” The program spent $29 million in 2002, increased to $129 million in the following year. Cheney’s task was to channel money to pre-screened groups, some of which were not identified publicly for fear of retaliations from extant governments they sought to undermine. For the budget year 2004, the project sought $145 million.
In spite of the fact I am in my 70′s and have always followed politics closely, I have never ever seen a curriculum or requirements for entry into political life. If we consider our current congressmen and women, it would appear a law degree and the desire to work within the political relm is enough in our citizen congress.Some even went from practicing medicine to the congress.Were they questioned as being suitable to comment on political matters? Why is more being asked of Liz Chaney or is that requirement more about hatred of her father?
Consider Obama himself. He has the requisite law degree and several years of community organizing among the poor.. He also had several years in the Illinois legislature during which he voted “present” over 125 times. He then served several months in the senate during which time he spent most of his time running for the presidency. Any concerns about why networks took his candidacy seriously and gave him air time???Hmmmmmm!!!
32. Jim Treacher: .”Obama can see Russia from his knees.”
..what is the current idiom for expressing approval of a comment, Jim?
+1,000!
..well said!
Perhaps one of our resident trolls would try a thought experiment, try refuting Cheney’s points, one by one, using logic and facts. Construct, if you will, a simple coherent argument that she is wrong in her reasoning or facts.
I frankly couldn’t give a damn if she was gay or ugly, if her reasoning stands to examination and her facts are right I will stand by what she says. If you can calmly prove otherwise I will happily listen.
Waiting.
RE #26/Moho: [...] Its up to Obama to prove your accusations aren’t true, while Liz Cheney gets a pass. That’s the heart of uncritical, visceral political discourse, and what makes you authoritarian. No, I don’t have any proof that you’re little–and that’s just the point. [...]
Poor Moho, who is the mean guy who planted in your mind that you have a passable command of logic?
Ugly, ugly oberation, and now… look where you are!
What a situation, what a situation! This is liberal cruelty!
Moho, poor thing: it is not “up to Obama to prove your accusations” – the BURDEN OF PROOF IS ON OBAMA AND HIS COHORTS TO PROVE HIS ELIGIBILITY, buddy, comprende?
And Obama (so far) has managed to dodge this obligation, first, during the campaign, then before the final DNC vetting committee, then, after the elections, by spending vasts amount of money to bury all the existing, connecting dots that could lead to the complete & incriminating description of his, Nobal Prize-crowned mysterious career (which greatly satisfies all America’s enemies).
And, considering his abysmal performance as president, both in home & international affairs, he did quite a good job.
How long will this Obama mascarade last, I don’t know – but since we have the photos of Hussein-Bagdad being toppled, we’ll sure have one day some companion ones, of Hussein-Djakarta-Chicago being toppled.
And, because I am very keen about giving credit to those who rightfully deserve it, sure your overwhelming logical skills contribute to Obama’s ruin, by covering with ridicule and disrepute the larger Obamamistas cause – so keep trolling & posting, Mojo (and the rest of your crew), you are of great help for the birthers cause, I tell you -
Gratefully yours,
Misanthropicus -
RE #32/Jim Treacher: Obama can see Russia from his knees.
Absolutely brilliant…too funny. Given SecState’s mtg w/ the Russians and their refusal to do ANYTHING about Iran, I’d say you are 100% right. He gave away missile defense in expectation of Russian reciprocity and got NOTHING. You have to ask for something and threaten a little to get anything from the Russians….not sure BO asked for anything and surely didn’t threaten at all. What a farce.
RE #32/Jim Treacher: Obama can see Russia from his knees.
Absolutely brilliant…too funny. Given SecState’s mtg w/ the Russians and their refusal to do ANYTHING about Iran, I’d say you are 100% right. He gave away missile defense in expectation of Russian reciprocity and got NOTHING. You have to ask for something and threaten a little to get anything from the Russians….not sure BO asked for anything and surely didn’t threaten at all. What a wimp.
Too bad some of our limp-wristed, moderate Republican senators and representatives don’t begin to stand up on their hind legs and confront Obama and his evil and corrupt administration. Instead they study the polls and cower in fear of the castrated media while Sarah Palin, Liz Cheney and Co. do the heavy lifting. Such mighty “men” we have!
Michelle Cottle … (called) Bill Kristol “an appalling jackass” and (claimed that) “media types” are easy on mother of five, Ms Cheney, “because she’s a sweet looking blonde chick.”
Had either a man or a writer written that, it would be called by its name: “Sexist” tripe!
I think Liz Cheney is very impressive. Lots to offer, however, as far as the presidential nominee, hope to see a new face altogether. We need a slam-dunk and no reminders of the last disastrous election as with Palin, or any of the others. We have some very promising young Republicans coming along. Lets give one them a chance.
I concur with 40. Brilliant comment, Jim Treacher @ 32!
She is like garlic to this blood sucking administration. GO LIZ!GO LIZ! GO LIZ!
Dowd is simply carrying Obama’s water here. Obama’s real target is not health care reform but the destruction of the US military.
At some point, OBama will say, “we are spending too much and have to cut back.” He and the other anti-American socialists in charge now see US military spending as discretionary. He’ll get us so far in the hole and then try to cut back on the military. Folks like Cheney will oppose this and that is why Dowd and the others of the captive media have been ordered to attack her.
@20. misanthropicus:
You make this too easy…
* can prove that she is a naturally born US citizen, with a BC available for examination
Can you prove that her BC is valid?
* would allow for scrutiny her kindergarten/school records
Have you seen these?
* her college and university degrees available
Please provide a citation of where these can be viewed.
* is not known for hooking up with terrorists, crooks, perverts and other type of miscreants
What about her dad?
* wouldn’t engage herself in abti-American activities
Anti-American, yes, abti-American, no. Got it.
* wouldn’t accept a peace Nobel prize for inexistent activity
Are you expecting that she will be offered one?
* etc. etc.
My favorite of all. Three cheers for Liz Cheney, etc. etc.
Indeed revolting, to see this type of people appearing in the political establishment – but these are the times we live, my friends!
Yes, indeed. Here’s hoping we can prevent her from being revolting at taxpayer expense.
Peace.
DS
Quick! Somebody get Liz a long-sleeve black turtleneck and crop her hair! Ahhh, now she’s ready for the MSM.
Well, at least Obama has a much better record of national security than Bush/Cheney ever had.
No 9/11 catastrophe, no terrorist attacks on US soil have happened on Obama’s watch.
Baal, et al (re 30),
Moho is short for Mohommad, as in, late-stage syphilitic crazed child-raping murdererous prophet of world’s youngest major religion. Got it. Obama will have to pass away to be eligible for prophet-status in the eyes of brother Moho. Geez! Some people.
Who really cares what this no name thinks?She is the daughter of a former vice president.What office did she hold ever?How many budgets did she oversee other than daddys spending allowance?Did she ever run a successful buisness?What has she done besides appear on fox?Suddenly she is an expert on something,a foriengh policy expert who watched her daddy do his stuff makes her an expert.I think this idiot should go back to managing daddys allowance and leave politics to politicians who actually have being elected.What a bimbo she is.
What is all this nonsense about seeing someone’s school records, birth certificate, and other records, “by their fruits you shall know them.” Now think about it, are the actions of those being discussed honorable, good for the country, or are they just the usual empty political rhetoric good only for the self serving interests of the political party they belong to?
#50 Dave K.:
“Well, at least Obama has a much better record of national security than Bush/Cheney ever had.
“No 9/11 catastrophe, no terrorist attacks on US soil have happened on Obama’s watch.”
Oh boy – just give his weak policies – and those of his AG more time to mature. An tragic attack on Obama’s watch is almost a certainty.
50. Dave K.:Bootlicking is not a foreign policy, try again. Yes, this is the artist formerly known as billslayer.
RE #48/David S: [...] Liz Cheney wouldn’t accept a peace Nobel prize for inexistent activity [...] Are you expecting that she will be offered one? [...]
Oh, poor David, poor David, so we assist at mass escape from the liberal asyllum! You joined Mojo, N&T, Praetorian, and jharp – wow!
No dear, sure Liz Cheney is nowhere on the Nobel Prize list.
Obama’s hilarious accolade anticipates the next years, both Peace and Literature Nobel prizes: here are some names:
Mumia Jabal, Bill Ayres, caudillo Chavez, caudillo Kadaffi, Cas Sunstein, Van Jones, Jane Fonda, Pee-wee Herman, Margret Cho, Daniel Ortega, Ahmadinejad, Charlie Rangel, rev Wright – hey, this is a powerful list of progressives -
Media Hates Liz Cheney.
Now there’s a ‘dog bites man’ story if there ever was one.
Congratulations Liz. You’re in, and don’t forget that concealed carry permit.
All conservative and independent women need to support Cheney.
With the unemployment and foreclosures etc that are going on, we don’t need a terrorists attack to have a disaster.
Plus, why would terrorists attack now? Their bro, is now the pres!! heyhey
the charge against Obama, … as a wishy-washy loser who turned America to mush.”
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Maureen D was actually right about something, she’s just not crediting the right person with the thought. She must be projecting how *she really feels*. Of course, she can’t say it out loud unless she blames a conservative. It’s so treasonous for a kool-aide drinker to even think such a thing. Obeymugabe *is* turning America to mush. (The economy, the military, health care, housing, manufacturing, etc. etc. etc.)
What I wonder about is this: why are the likes of Liz Cheney and Sarah Palin not getting behind the establishment of a US government in exile.
Changing the personel in Washington will not change the culture. So, something else needs to be done so that Washington is either reformed, or permanently marginalized.
For, what have the efforts to reform Washington brought about?
maryann crabtree:
LOL the closest Cheney (any of them) has gotten to a battlefield is running from them. Cheney (Dick) summoned up his courage in Vietnam (when he was of age) and like Scooter, Wolfie, Bush and all the other thunderheads of the right decided that military service was for someone else.
I find it ironic how the semi toughs of the right wing need to wrap themselves in the military (and the flag) and so few serve it
Robert G. Oler
14 BC,
Trolls should leave.
Well spoken and articulate, Liz Cheney does her parents proud. Like Sarah Palin, she’s pretty to boot.
“Ye shall judge a woman’s worth by the degree to which a small-minded, jealous person (Maureen Dowd, David Letterman, Bill Maher come to mind) attempts to diminish her.”
You can take it to the bank
The attacks against Cheney combine kindergarden logic with emotional squalor. If you have arguments contrasting those of the lady, what’s wrong with articulating them with clarity and civility?
In these days, it seems that the vituperative eruptions of the self-appointed liberals is a measure of your real stature as a worthy citizen. The more authentic you are, the more you trigger the ire of those who cannot respect facts and concepts enough to discuss them intelligently. The art of the compliment is taking strange turns.
Hah! It’s so funny to see the old withering media lose any of their remaining credibility by their doubling-down on their pro-Obamanism and their desperate search for a right-wing villain (first Palin, then Rush, then Liz Cheney). Who’s next? Is the boogeyman a right winger too? LOL!
I do not understand attacks against politicians wives or husbands. Never have and never will. They are PRIVATE citizens married to public servants. Keyword: Private. She should be left alone.
As far as looks goes?.. she is ok, but Palin and Coulter got her beat, hands down.
from the list of ms. cheney’s accomplishments in the posts above i’d chalk up the bashing to pure jealousy from the left, but then as far back as the goldwater campaign i’ve noticed we seem to get the intelligent, accomplished and handsome women, the left gets the leftovers.
#14 – what damn difference does it make if she is gay or not?
#50 – what cave do you live in? No, we have not been attacked since Obama took office like we were on 9/11 after Bill Clinton and his cronies left us unprotected and without an intelligence apparatus worth a damn. We have not been attacked because Bush put the fear of God in the terrorist community because they knew he would hit back twice as hard. Now, they are no longer fearful and we are in more danger now than we were pre-9/11. The terrorists have no fear of retribution from the present administration. Why should they? All he has done is go abroad apologizing for America at every opportunity and at times, looks for opportunities to degrade us so we become nothing more than a third rate power.
60. Poor Citizen:
Save your civility for Bristol Palin. Liz Cheney stands on her own, separate from her father. Go ahead and argue with her if you feel like it. We’re still waiting around here for something other than quips about her gay sister and blanket charges of unearned positions of authority.
…as far back as the goldwater campaign i’ve noticed we seem to get the intelligent, accomplished and handsome women, the left gets the leftovers.
R v. D Women, a comparison
Democrats hate her. Enough said. Liz Cheney for President!
We are talking about the left’s biggest fear. Intelligent and/or attractive people who GASP don’t agree with THE HIVE. Must destroy. Must destroy. Must destroy.
62. Bart:
“What damn difference does it make if she is gay or not?”
Gee, Bart. None. I was just asking. Why so hostile?
HEY!!! Cheney and Palin and Coulter!!! triple threat!!
Cheney is a daughter, but also an advocate who can stand on her own.
The mushrooms on the left drool with envy . Looks are not everything. However, those 3 make the left go crazy!! They can actually stand on their own feet and fight back, without lieing.
Mushrooms…you grown them in the dark and feed them bull s#!+.
The leftist troll soup is thick with this one. I’m beginning to believe leftists are truly, poofter puckering terrified of conservative women.
#48/David S/ bis:
[...] Liz Cheney wouldn’t accept a peace Nobel prize for inexistent activity [...] Are you expecting that she will be offered one? [...]
David, as I said, sure Liz Cheney is nowhere on the Nobel Prize list – Obama as merituous honoree anticipates the next years’ mascarade. And here is a last addition to the already mentioned (Mumia Jabal, Bill Ayres, caudillo Chavez, caudillo Kadaffi, Cas Sunstein, Van Jones, Jane Fonda, Pee-wee Herman, Margret Cho, Daniel Ortega, Ahmadinejad, Charlie Rangel, rev Wright): Kevin Jennings, David, Kevin Jennings – how could Liz Cheney compete with Kevin Jennings?
Buddy, Kevin Jennings is a total winner for the Nobel Prize ticket, too – be happy, progress is here!
Those familiar with Ms. Cheney have complete faith in her ability to speak convincingly for herself and effectively advocate for a strong U.S. foreign relations position.
What boggles the mind is the intellectual pond scum the left dredges up to attack advocates such as the remarkable Ms. Cheney. Who in their right mind believes this name calling can be an effective tactic, yet this is the left’s repeated response to principled discussion. I suppose the only response more insane would be the communist tactic of using firing squads to win the argument… very effective, though not very popular.
62. Bart:
#50 – what cave do you live in? No, we have not been attacked since Obama took office like we were on 9/11 after Bill Clinton and his cronies left us unprotected and without an intelligence apparatus worth a damn. We have not been attacked because Bush put the fear of God in the terrorist community because they knew he would hit back twice as hard. Now, they are no longer fearful and we are in more danger now than we were pre-9/11…
wow you really drank the Koolaide didnt you?
A longer time went by from the first WTC attack to the one under Mr. Bush then from 9/11 to the end of Bush’s term
All without invading a country that was not a threat to us.
“hit back” LOL OBL was laughing the day Bush left office in disgrace
Robert G. Oler
Obama a wishy-washy loser? Right on, Maureen.
If she runs for office,she has my vote!
69. misanthropicus:
So, Jennings. You said he’d be under the bus by now. I said he wasn’t going anywhere. Here’s your challenge. Type these words: “I was wrong. Now and Then was right.” Don’t take it personally. It’s a simple matter of fact. But you see, you folks are incapable of admitting error or guilt. It’s a genetic aversion to accountability. This is your chance to elevate to the high ground. It’s nice up here, trust me. So, no diversions or qualifiers or “Yeah, but if” . . . just a simple admission of the truth.
I don’t think you can do it.
everytime i see liz spouting off again, i can’t help but think that under her slick, calm demeanor, lies the beating heart of a 12 year old school yard bully…..all that nonsense about obama being “afraid to defend our country”….is she for real?? does she actually expect that if she says that seriously enough that thinking people will actually fall for it? think aobut that: that he is afraid to defend the country. its just absurd, and worse its that kind of statment that is designed to inflame the knuckle-draggers on the right. i wish she would run for office so she can lose and we can be done with her once and for all.
I frankly couldn’t give a damn if she was gay or ugly, if her reasoning stands to examination and her facts are right I will stand by what she says. If you can calmly prove otherwise I will happily listen.
Why don’t you find out for yourself? The idea of you waiting around for people to convince you one way or another on such important issues is simply mind-boggling and the primary reason why people such as you inspire such revulsion in critical thinkers.
she took a job at Armitage Associates LLP, the consulting firm founded by Richard Armitage, then a former Defense Department official and Iran-Contra operative who later served as Deputy Secretary of State.
After graduating from law school, Cheney practiced law in the private sector (at the law firm of White & Case) and as an international law attorney and consultant at the International Finance Corporation, a member of the World Bank Group. She has also served as Special Assistant to the Deputy Secretary of State for Assistance to the former Soviet Union, and as a USAID officer in U.S. embassies in Budapest and Warsaw.[3
This “proof” that she got to where she was at on her own made me laugh out loud. Especially because you left out this part:
Before attending law school, Cheney worked for the State Department for five years and the U.S. Agency for International Development between 1989 and 1993.
She worked at government agencies while her father was secretary of defense…yeah, I’m sure she got there on the merits. And then she worked for Armitage’s law firm–another example of a diamond in the rough being picked out for her brilliance. The ability of you people to passionately and suddenly back the same things you passionately decried thirty seconds ago at a moment’s notice is truly something to behold.
84. Moho:I wonder if she ever got her knees dirty while servicing a slumlord? Did she ever turn tricks for a criminal parasite slumlord? Oh my, what kind of deviant would service a slumlord…what was that guy’s name?
85 Layer of Baal:
Your slip is showing.
I wonder if she ever got her knees dirty while servicing a slumlord? Did she ever turn tricks for a criminal parasite slumlord?
Why wonder? There seems to be nothing seperating fantasy from reality for you people. Go ahead and call it a god-given fact, what’s the difference at this point. You people literally believe everything you’re told anyway.
No wonder they will attempt to alinsky her. I met her in person, the diminutive woman is a force to be reckoned with.
Like I told her personally, run. Run for anything – anywhere. I will open my checkbook.
83
“Why don’t you find out for yourself?”
Because there’s no reason to suspect that you’re honest, so why waste our time?
If you had anything of substance, you’d be able to link it… but, like most liberals, all you have is your hatred and intolerance.
Go Liz Cheney-when you’ve got maureen dowd and those ny times liberals in a tizzy you know you’re doing something good!! This lady is an up and coming Conservative and she will go far. She is bright, well-spoken and I hope to see and hear more from her in the years to come.
86. Now and Then:As I said before, this is the artist formerly known as billslayer, smacking down all twits, sycophants, and trolls.
87. Moho:You lose, checkmate.
Sorry Moho, you don’t know what you are talking about. You don’t get into the State Dept through special favors. There are very challenging written and oral exams. Now, how did Obama get into Harvard?? He even admits he wasn’t a serious student at Punahou or Occidental.
#55 Evan – Before you post such bile, perhaps you should do us all the courtesy of reading the comments before yours. Her resume was spelled out. It is quite respectable.
#81 Oler – Not true. After the attack on the WTC, we had the bombing of the USS Cole, then the attacks on our embassies in ’98 and ’99. Clinton was offered Bin Laden on a silver platter in ’95, but because he thought in legal terms, rather than CinC terms, he turned them down. 9/11 is ALL Clinton’s fault. Maybe if he had invaded 2(!) Muslim countries like Bush, he’d've put the fear of Allah into some of them.
The Obama administration has continued the Bush anti-terror policies domestically (and FISA, and Rendition, and…), and several serious attempts have been stopped cold. Good for him. (Of course, he knows that if one slips through, he’s toast.) His success is only possible because of the Bush/Cheney policies and procedures. Bush kept us safe. He is STILL keeping us safe.
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Ron Radosh writes: “Marty Peretz, …. writes today , “Obama hasn’t reset the American relationship with Russia. He was taken for a ride. Maybe his vanity won’t let him admit it. But, believe me, the Russians know they have taken him (and us) for a big ride, indeed.””
Hell, they saw him for the cheap street punk he is, laughed and proceeded to illustrate to all their contempt. It is just that 0bama is too stupid to know he has been punked.
Delia @ 79 said: “The leftist troll soup is thick with this one. I’m beginning to believe leftists are truly, poofter puckering terrified of conservative women.”
Fixed it for you. Yes, you know when the point is on when the PJM resident trolls come out so strongly. I am beginning to actually find then amusing, in a sick & tragic sense. I will find their mewling enervating when I get to watch them shrink to nothing.
I meant to say but the HTML tag did not take:
“The leftist troll soup is thick with this one. I’m beginning to believe leftists are truly, poofter puckering terrified.”
#81. Robert G. Oler: “All without invading a country that was not a threat to us.”
Kosovo was a threat to us?
RE #82/Now and Then: “[...] So, Jennings. You said he’d be under the bus by now. I said he wasn’t going anywhere. Here’s your challenge. [...]”
Yeah, Jennings.
And I am not surprised that as the liberal Obamabot you are, you will continue to lie in this issue.
All what I said when I introduced that creep as an illustration of the Obama’s crew rottenness, was that he was under fire and probably would be dumped, like the other buffoon Van Jones rightfully was, in few days.
Then I gave you the chance to come with of an estimation as to how long Jennings would last: a day, two days? Over the weekend? More?
And you said – “now way, he won’t go anywhere.”
Yes, and it didn’t happen so far.
Yet, as of today, more things hit the fan – now Jennings was proved that he was an active member of the ACT UP, the fascist homosexual organization of the nineties, then, because of this and of his recorded complaints that “in this country heterosexuality is tought as a norm”, the list of US congress representatives asking the WH to remove him for his gross inadequacy in matters educational has PASSED 60 name – expect more.
So, this is the correct description of the issue which, as an obvious “It wasn’t rape-rape” professional, you describe in very different terms -
Alright, buddy, now it’s yours – will Jennings keep the job? And if not, how many more days will Jennings last in the White House?
Answer this -
Time Hollywood scions and Washington pol scions hit the road.
Can’t we Americans come up with real white knights?
Do we have to listen to Bozo McCain’s daughter as well?
Yes, Liz Cheney speaks well for conservatives. SO WHAT?
Sitting around with your knitting, smiling at the precocious young relatives — while the brown shirts are marching past your window!
91. misanthropicus:
I warned you . . . You. Just. Can’t. Do. It. . . . Somebody put it well, what did they say . . . It’s a genetic aversion to accountability. Now, I know you’re a card-carrying hater of sports, so you might not be able to relate to the manly side of life, but here goes: Did you eve see a worm on a hook? How it writhes and contorts itself in a futile effort to escape reality? Funny in a way . . .
Here, allow me to lower the bar a little for you. In post #91, you wrote . . . “I am not surprised that as the liberal Obamabot you are, you will continue to lie in this issue.” referring to my post #82.
Point to my lie in post #82. Bet you can’t do it.
RE 93/Now and Then:
Eppur si Muove – yeah, and Jennings’ gonna go.
1) [...] Now, I know you’re a card-carrying hater of sports, so you might not be able to relate to the manly side of life, but here goes: [...]
A: Fool, I clearly said that “… comes from one with a pretty good winter sports record” – fool, you’re again distorting my comments, in this case extracted from my Hawkins on Limbaugh column post.
Buddy, a lisping clown like you can’t even imagine that people snow sky where I used to (and still do, but in a more prudent manner); also, for your edification learn that I’ve been flying gliders since I was fourteen – but you don’t know what a glider is (and this is the sunny side of this story).
But since you already mentioned “contortion”, I won’t continue to describe you pathetic attempts at twisting my words –
Still, can’t you come with an answer to my question regarding Jennings’ tenure? How long? Two days? One week?
’till the news will come out that Jennings’ been in cahoots with Lombard, the guy who placed his adopted boy for hire for sex on the Internet? That he was on that site several times to check the price?
Tried to pay for this with White House business card?
Answer buddy, a progressive sure can -
94. misanthropicus:
“winter sports” . . . figure skating?
I already answered your fool question. I said he’s not going anywhere. I don’t have to continually change my answer like the confusatvies do.
BTW, your post ended kind of abruptly. Did the harpies reappear? Are you i some Beck-induced fugue state? DTs perhaps? Perhaps someone here, one of you sponsors could chekc up on you. Anyone? Hell? Can somebody go to the third cardboard box on the left under the McKenzie Bridge and check on misanthrpelosicus? That’d be good.
no. 73 arhooly,
Dude, you must have the wrong person there, first, I was not number 60 and second, I do not support anyone talkin against Liz Cheney….please recheck my statement..my entry was no. 69. Good Luck
RE #95/Now and Then: “[...] I said he [Jennings]‘s not going anywhere. I don’t have to continually change my answer like the confusatvies do. [...]”
’till then, your good friend, Marc “Cop-killer” Lamont is gone, baby – and eat it.
Heh-heh-heh – as far as Jennings (and Anita Dunn, she’s the latest from that heap of rotten merchandise that Obama’s WH is), they’ll fall, too, pretty soon -
Talk to you later – heh-heh-heh…
97. misanthopelosicus:
Why did Fix News hire Lamont to begin with? And now they’ve fired him. Just like they fired Michelle Malkin. They should do a better job vetting those people.
RE #112/N&T: [...] misanthopelosicus: Why did Fix News hire Lamont to begin with? [...] They should do a better job vetting those people. [...]
Oh, my poor N&T – the DNC didn’t vet Barry Soetoro’s presidential eligibility, and you have no qualms about that failure that will cost us enormously in lives and property (possibly an atomic war as well), yet you fret about Fox’s ignoring that Lamont was/is a stupid dopehead -
N&T, hope you can understand this – Fox is an elightened outfit. They try to reach out, by hiring Lamont they tried to address the needs of mentally less-enfranchised coagulations like you, Praetorian, Vivo, JoMo and others like you – and they lamentably failed, both Lamont and your crew being of horrible quality -
A nice precedent, though – now we can turn our eyes to mister Soetoro, a much grander vetting/ hiring failure and optimistically wait…
Anybody who can drive Mo Dowd that crazy gets my vote. I’d love to see her go for it just to drive all the people who slandered her father crazy.
TriGeek. Logically challenged a bit, are you? Isn’t there a test you also have to take to get into college? I’ve heard that’s quite challenging…and are you saying that Liz Cheney was the only one who passed that test? That there wasn’t favoritism involved in hiring her, out of the thousands of people who take the exam? And, according to your logic, anyone who passes that exam, should be a great candidate to take over Cheney’s position as propagandist for the Republican establishment. Conclusion, don’t change, you’re the backbone of this movement.
Now and Then @ 14 and 80:
I love it, please keep it coming. I can’t speak for Bart, but I imagine his hostility might be due to the fact that you come off sounding like a bit of a bigot in your original comment. Most of us here take pride in knowing we are probably far more open-minded and far less bigoted then our leftist counterparts. This is part of the reason why leftists are so threatened by women and minorities who are conservatives. In a country where the tea-party protesters and the right-wing movement are the real liberals, leftists have little to contribute beyond imagining we have malicious intentions and accusing us of bigotry without cause.
Liz Cheney seems to be very sharp, and she’s a talented speaker and debater. I’m not sure why anyone would be particularly offended by nepotism, when her abilities seem to outshine her father’s (and most other political speakers) when it comes to articulating conservative values. Maybe she gets it from her mother.
#34 Jim Treacher – “Obama can see Russia from his knees.”
With our Secretary of State returning recently from Russia, this needs to be modified:
Hillary can see Russia from between her knees.
RON! CONGRATS to you and your wife Allis!
(((BIG HUG)))
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Re:#23 – By starting with ALL of us on Pajamas why don’t we agree to go to our congresspeople and senators and get a law passed that every one of our representatives, in office now and all entering in the future, show all of these credentials right now. I believe that is a law that would not pass. I’m sure all of us agree with this point up to now, now to seperate us with the next statement; this will never happen as a result of the LEFT not the RIGHT.
Ron – Congratulations!!!
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Dave K # 56: Congratulations for the stupidest comment ever posted on PJM since its inception. Why do you think there have been no attacks (as of today) on Obama’s watch? It couldn’t possibly be because of the Patriot Act, the Department of Homeland Security (which even Obama has not yet sought to dismantle), the entire structure of heightened security put in place by the Bush Administration in the aftermath of 9/11, could it?
Are you nuts or just stupid?
The way the radical Obama and his administration are destroying the country in the areas of foreign policy weakness, huge debt/deficits, weakening economy, and extremist policy on social issues to the left, I can see a Sarah/Liz 2012 ticket to be very STRONG against Obama in 2012.
You would have Sarah’s solid fiscon and socon policy, and political skills combined with Liz on foreign policy stengths which agrees with what Sarah stands for.
This team would be devastating and I’m sure Axelrod & Co. have thought of this possibility.
Dave K, in comment 56 writes:
Well, at least Obama has a much better record of national security than Bush/Cheney ever had.
No 9/11 catastrophe, no terrorist attacks on US soil have happened on Obama’s watch.
Exactly why do you think no terrorist attacks have taken place on U.S. soil on what you call “Obama’s watch”? Would it possibly occur to you that this great Obama achievement
(in your mind) is entirely due to the Patriot Act, the Department of Homeland Security (which even Obama hasn’t seen fit to disband) and the heightened awareness both at home and abroad, with intel agencies around the world now looking for terrorists and sharing their findings? You really attribute the lack of attacks in the ten months of this presidency to Obama? You must really enjoy the taste of Kool-Aid.
And, far more important than debating David K:
WARMEST CONGRATULATIONS TO ALLIS AND RON RADOSH FOR THEIR WELL-DESERVED FIRST PRIZE IN THE DISTINGUISHED WASHINGTON INSTITUTE FOR NEAR EAST POLICY BOOK AWARDS FOR 2009. A book that I cannot recommend highly enough. It is a brilliantly-researched book, beautifully written. A genuine page-turner, it is a riveting tale, a great, great book by two extraordinary writers and thinkers.
BRAVISSIMO!
Are your people serious??????????????? Cheney sat on his hands for years (or in his bunker) pretending to fight in Afghanistan, making a complete cock-up of it, instead making up excuses to go to war in Iraq – a country that posed no security threat to the US. He should be on trial for war crimes, because destablising a country, destroying its infrastructure and causing the deaths of thousands of civilians based on LIES is evil, and you are supporters of this American mad man and is equally delusional daughter? 9/11 happened on HIS WATCH. He wrecked the United States, threw out all its morals, threw into trillions of dollars into debt (and and guess who to clean that mess up?) and gave the terrorists exactly what they wanted by destroying the constitution. God bless Obama, and despite what you people hope, us moderates will never support the likes of a Bush/Cheny combo EVER AGAIN>
It is a brilliantly-researched book, beautifully written. A genuine page-turner, it is a riveting tale, a great, great book by two extraordinary writers and thinkers.
BRAVISSIMO!
Liz Cheney is only defending her war criminal father, give her a break!
As I liberal, I don’t dislike conservative women spokespersons/candidates because they are smart, witty, or scary. I dislike them because they use their talents to obfuscate issues (Palin spouting off on “Death Panels” or Liz Cheney claiming Obama cares more about the rights of terrorist than protecting Americans). We need leaders who articulate legitimate differences in the debate, not headline mongers looking for a good sound-bite. These are smart, beautiful, and savvy women who promote half-truths, lies, and fear to create a political base. This path to leadership is a dangerous road that has lead to discrimination, violence, and totalitarianism throughout history.
The majority of voters in 2008 rejected this style of faux leadership. Some conservatives wrapped themselves in the flag and called Democrats weak, but voters wanted action and results giving the Dems the green light with majorities across the board. Obama has engage Congress into addressing the economy, healthcare, climate change, and the budget deficit. He’s got three more years to show us some results and see if he’s worthy of reelection. (My vote is up for grabs. I never rubber-stamp a candidate. They have to earn my vote, or I skip to the next line on the ballot.)
Great chain of commentary on here. I encourage conservatives to comment at liberal sites like Slate and TPM to avoid a one-sided echo chamber. We also all need to avoid the red herrings like Obama’s birth certificate, death panels, former Pres. Bush and Vice-Pres. Cheney’s draft dodging, and the like. Calling all liberals weak or all conservatives warmongers doesn’t help the debate one bit.
God Bless America, her Constitution, and all her Amendments
Cheney and Palin are the gifts that keep on giving. As far as all the other right wing nut bags please keep talking because your showing the INFOMED american citizens what your really made of and it’s LIES!! It doesn’t matter on any topic they are using the same fear tactics that most Americans took hook line and sinker under Gerogie boy!! Remember him he wanted to privatize social security!! What would have happened to social security if this actually happened….no dollars left for all who payed into the system for decades. Georgie was also drunk most of the time and didn’t even have a command of the english language if you heard the dope speak regularly!! Drags us into 2 wars going nowhere when Cheney and him are draft dodgers who don’t know the first thing about war except how to profit from it and at the cost of many American and Iraqi Afgan lives. Remember the Blackwater gang that gunned down innocent Iraqi’s and got away with it?? Another for profit war machine going out of control. It amazes me how anyone bought into these wars costing trillions not billions but you won’t hear from any republican congressman talking about that waste. And how about John (the loser) Mccain. He ran for the highest office in the land and ordinary Americans where losing their jobs houses health care and John has the pleasure of 15 I said 15 houses!! I am sure he would have understood how badly Americans where hurting right?? Now all he can do is bash the President on just about anything crying like a little baby!! Let’s not forget his running mate or daughter wrong way Sara. She is priceless!! She can see Russia from her house and doesn’t know North and South Korea are two different countries and I need to bail out of Alaska because as their campaign slogan said THEM FIRST not American first. keep talking right wing nuts your certainly doing yourselves a huge dis-service and we appreciate your lies!!
rich