The Mystery of the Kenyan Birth
Reading the extraordinary revelation about Barack Obama’s youthful literary career on Breitbart.com — that his agents published a promotional book in 1991 with a bio of Obama saying he was born in Kenya — set my old mystery writer mind ablaze.
How could that be? Why would they think such a thing?
There are only two forks in this road — either he was born in Kenya or he wasn’t.
I have never been a conspiracy theorist and will assume the latter, although I have to confess that for the first time, given this revelation, I have the tiniest soupçon of doubt.
Nevertheless, the more interesting, and actually frightening and depressing, conclusion is the former. So what if he was born in Kenya? At least we know why he lied about it. He wanted to be president.
But why did Obama’s agents think he was born in Kenya? That’s a more interesting question. (Obama, of course, is a liar either way.)
I will leave aside for the moment the question of whether he vetted the agent’s material himself. As the author of eleven published books and seven produced feature films, I have had plenty of dealings with agents and publicity people and always looked over the bios they had written about me. Every author I ever talked to about it always did too. We’re those kind of egotists. But I have no way of proving that Obama did — although I would faint if he hadn’t.
But whatever he did, the question remains. Why did they put “Born in Kenya” in his bio and leave it there until 2007? The latter part of that question can of course be ascribed to normal human sloth, but the first part — there’s the rub.
Here are the explanations I can think of:
- Obama told them.
- It was in some early draft of Obama’s abandoned book (Journeys in Black and White) he submitted to them.
- Obama wrote it in his book proposal to them.
- Obama told them in a query letter.
- Obama answered one of those biographical forms.
- … Well, I’m running out because they all amount to the same thing.
There is one other possibility. The agents simply made up the place of Obama’s birth, but I have never in all my life heard of a literary agent doing such a thing. It’s possible I suppose, but hardly likely. And why?
Anyway, per Occam’s Razor, I am going with the obvious — the agent’s source for Obama’s birthplace was… Barack Obama.
But again why? Why would he lie about where he was born?
Well, he might have wanted to glamorize his past, but if that’s so, it’s pathetic. I suspected there was a more substantive reason, one that would cause him to leave his African birth place in place in the bio. But to take the risk of being found out, it would have to be strong.
By itself, the “Kenyan birth” brochure can be explained away by a BHO spokesperson claiming whoever wrote the bio had to have made a mistake. The problem is if you connect the dots, they end up corroborating each other and the brochure becomes a damning piece of the puzzle.
And there’s more to that. In 2005 the AP reporter stated the following:”
Kenyan-born US Senate hopeful, Barrack Obama
Kenyan-born US Senate hopeful, Barrack Obama, appeared set to take over the Illinois Senate seat after his main rival, Jack Ryan, dropped out of the race on Friday night amid a furor over lurid sex club allegations.
This report explains the context of the oft cited debate, between Obama and Keyes in the following Fall, in which Keyes faulted Obama for not being a “natural born citizen”, and in which Obama, by his quick retort, “So what? I am running for Illinois Senator, not the presidency”, self-admitted that he was not eligible for the office.
It’s not some fantasy, these are facts, so either Obama lied in 2004 or in 2008.
“So what? I am running for Illinois Senator, not the presidency”,
Where/when was this said/quoted/published?
Explosive if its on tape, you are the first person I’ve seen make this claim.
Where else can I find that quote?
(seriuosly, no snark intended)
I heard it too, on You Tube.
That exchange between Alan Keyes and Obama has been widely reported, but at Alan Keyes site it does not appear in the transcript of that debate. Why would Alan Keyes remove it from the transcript since he is one of the plaintiffs in one of the California cases against Obama? I looked for it and could not find it.
Of I may be wrong, but I would look for it to come out on Breitbart soon. Too many people have seen it and talk about it. They have a copy of it.
There’s a video floating around that shows Obama talking to some college students before he was elected to the Senate. He says twice that he was born in Kenya. His wife is also shown making a speech in which she says where he was born. How I wish I still had it, but I sent it to numerous people. Hopefully one of them is reading this and will provide the link. But I swear I saw it and that’s what he said.
Here’s the link to the clip you describe, although he is talking to Turkish students. The author of the clip says it’s a spoof and directs you to whitehouse.gov for the entire talk. I went there and read the transcript and the only thing missing in the transcript is him making that statement. Things that make you go hmmmmmm…..
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MwhKuunp8D8&feature=youtube_gdata_player
That clip is so fake. Anyone can take random words spoken by someone and rearrange them to say something totally different than what they actually said.
I’ve seen and heard that video.
But you will not see the words come out of Obama’s mouth – rather it’s a voice over, and edit.
You’re a liar.
As I believe, a major problem with so many of the otherwise rational(?) attempts at explanation of emotionally engaging things is that, in place of single paths of logic, one-at-a-time before combination into the larger picture, along the way, often, the inquirer interposes hopeful speculation alternately following either of two forks, and ending up with mere conjecture concerning the whole; and to briefly remark upon that rabbit run into the briars, though in the negative:
In the simplest use of logic and showing why, for the usual weaknesses, third-party records most often cause them to be soon laughed out of court, . . . before the job lot for the brochure was put to the press, the thing probably was not proofed; and even before, the typist probably did not innocently type only what was told her—we can’t know just where that Kenyan birth business came from, but we do fairly assume the piece to have been thrown together by possible drunks and dopers, with possible prejudice both in intellectual milieu, in construction, and in purpose, of as yet unproven authorship, and as a usual product of the second-rate organization which Harvard is, remembering the while that, the thing which is of great moment is not an impartial logic tracing unbiased solitary paths of intent, and prejudice in construction and actuality—because, anyone can be mistaken or even lie—but rather, who wrote this, and if we cannot examine his answers on the matter—what then are we to believe? Why, than for the life of William Shakespeare as a real person, there’s more proof for Jesus Christ, . . . and so, I think, I’ve proved my case, as in: “I think, therefore I am, . . . I am that I am.”, G0D, Popeye the Sailor man, and so forth.
And with this, if you’ve spent any amount of time among criminals, no doubt, you may recall some of their rules of life, and ideas in the way of truisms, one such being: “You watch, a thief will always tell on his self.”, and so: “The only one who refuses to disclose, is one who has something to hide.”—thanks, Barak Obama, . . . we didn’t know, . . .
Phillipe I do notknow where Obama’s mother was when he was born. I do not know that Stanley Ann is his mother and neither will you till we see the actual girth certiicate and that may never happen. You all hae done an excellent job of hiding Obama’s bona fides.What we believe can be true but there is nothingb that says it must be true and there are plentu of contradictions that can’t be true if other beliefs are true. the i upshot is that none of us know the real truth at this time..
Indeed Whit, I am not sure you even exist nor whether you ever had a mother. The most logical explanation for your presence on the interwebs is a glitch that has caused a spambot to become self aware. Prove me wrong.
As I’ve said from the beginning, if one has nothing to hide, they always disclose. Given that the man has not ever said one thing in public that was not a lie, the burden of proof must be on him. There are many, many questions and absolutely no answers.
Welcome to the debate, Roger.
There are way too many questions and not enough answers. The answers would come easy if he would show an original copy of his birth certifate and not a phoney “proof of live birth” certificate. I went out of the country and I had to show mine to get a passport for a cruise and it had to have a raised seal on it. How much more would you need one to become President of the United States. He has sealed all of his records so there is no evidence that he was born here or in Kenya. His Grandmother from Kenya said she was present during his birth. Should we omit that? They stop anyone who tries to find out and make them look like a fool for trying to get this information. It’s like something you would see in a sci fi movie. I have come to the conclusion for myself that until he shows his birth certifcate and other records he refuses to show I will think otherwise. He should provide this information to the people that doubt and there are many that doubt. If I were running for re-election and had this cloud over my head I would show it all. That is unless I had something to hide.
You can’t look at this revelation through the lens of the last four years of controversy.
You have to come at it as if it were now 1991 or 1992.Obama would have absolutely no reason to hide his Kenyan birth at this point in his life.And what would he gain by claiming a Kenyan birth versus a Hawaiian birth?
I would like to know where this literary agent got this information.
He has every reason to continue to hide his birth in Kenya. If found to be ineligible to be president then EVERYTHING he has done will be null and void as illegal. Also giving reason to impeach and jail him for lying about his eligibility, not to mention ignoring the constitutional requirements and impeding the judicial process set about to certify his eligibility.
Am I the only remaining person in the world who still knows what the expression “natural born citizen” means???
BOTH parent citizens AT THE TIME OF BIRTH of the country of birth.
I’m sure most of the people responding to this thread are natural born citizens of the USA. I am. Barack Obama is NOT. He’s NOT natural born from ANY country, because his parents were citizens of two different countries. He could have been born in the Lincoln bedroom of the White House and he’s still NOT natural born.
But NO ONE seems to care. So just carry on with the fraud.
What the Founders intended and what the law now requires are two different things. Had they spelled out their intent, we wouldn’t have the current dichotomy, but they didn’t, so we do.
Why would his literary agent (or Barack himself) lie about Obama’s place of birth? Because it’s exotic. It established Obama’s bona fides among the ‘citizens of the world’ of the Left.
Rather than an argument about his birthplace (I’m inclined to believe it was Hawaii; he’s already the President & there are far more topics about him that are more important to argue about), this shows the ease that Obama has with the ability to say whatever it takes to get somewhere.
He was unaware of this? Until 2007 ? Wasn’t it updated occasionally after first being published, & the Kenyan birth remained?
Yea,well MY Occam’s razor tells ME that Barokeydoke WAS born in Kenya…and even after he moved back to Hawaii after living in Indonesia,he never became a US citizen…much less one who was “natural born”…and now we have a renegade in the White House…an alien without flag or loyalty to any country or anything other than his own perverted ambition..but still a British subject according to Vattel’s Law of Nations and the British Nationality Act of 1948…and now we have a true full blown Constitutional crisis abrewing…one that could find Barokeydoke and half the Democrat Congressional leadership going to prison for treason and conspiracy to commit same….personally I’m in the mood to kick ass and chew bubble gum…and I’m all out of bubble gum
Robbins Mitchell, I think you hit the nail on the head.
I have no doubt, not even for a nanosecond, that his mama got knocked up (me thinks Davis is the father, but I digress)and since the kiddie was going to be passed off as Obama Senior’s, then Kenya it was.
Some of us, way back early in 2008 – when the fraud of BHO appeared on the national scene and had to be taken seriously – were simply wondering: how come and a guy born in 1961 (no matter where) with a Kenyan father, and with a name like “Barack Hussein Obama” be a “natural born citizen” of the US? No matter what one own’s definition of the term, or interpretation of the phrase by Constitutional lawyers or the Courts, obviously the Founding Fathers MUST have implied by the words “natural born citizen” something more than just a “citizen” – otherwise why the term be there, in Article II, Section 1 of the Constitution?
This fraud, currently occupying the White House, has been there pushed and handled by the grand worldwide new Left that has plunged the World into the current economic and social crisis. Only a fool can ignore these simple facts, and play PC games with the future of this great country, and in fact the West.
Enough is enough.
One curiosity that I have is
“Has the dna of Obama ever been checked against his “mother’s” family?
Since he bears such a striking resemblance to both his mother and his maternal grandfather I have no doubt about his maternal DNA. However, I would be very interested in what his paternal DNA had to say about him.
Heh! You’ll sooner see angels….
If there was ever a DNA profile, Frank Marshall Davis will pop-up like the Alien out of John Hurt (Alien 1979).
Of course not, nor against that of any claimed or potential fathers! Not unless the FBI/DHS is covering it up like they are covering all the other lies and frauds of the Obamaination! If you think this fraud could be pulled off without the collusion and/or complicity of all the big federal players to include such RINOs as McCain and Romney you are suffering your own delusions. The motivations my vary but the results are the same-betrayal of the Constituion and the people!
Adina, PLEASE talk to some of your friends in Mossad and ask them to obtain Barry’s hidden past and publish it! The can pin the blame for the leak on Julian Assange.
This administration does seem to be able to keep certain secrets, doesn’t it?
Does this make him a double bastard?
Treason consists of waging war on the United States. Not lying about your qualifications to office.
It is also absurd to think that half the Democrats in Congress knew that Obama was born in Kenya. First, because we don’t know even now that Obama was born in Kenya (indeed, I’d bet against it). Second, because of course he wouldn’t be meeting with 150 Congressmen and telling them of his big, disqualifying secret.
If Democrats knew Obama wasn’t a U.S. citizen and went along with that lie, they are indeed treasonous. There is more than one way to fight a war, Dave.
I’d like to see a RICO lawsuit. There’s been vast collusion in this conspiracy and everyone who played along must be held accountable. No way is this going away. The “birthers” are pO’ed for being dissed significantly for years. Now the burden of proof lies with the president. If he lied, like Eliz Warren did with her 1/32 Indian roots for credibility in the elite circles of academia, that’s understandable but he won’t be forgiven for it. Either way, he’ll suffer great embarrassment.
trea·son
[tree-zuhn]
noun
1.
the offense of acting to overthrow one’s government or to harm or kill its sovereign.
2.
a violation of allegiance to one’s sovereign or to one’s state.
3.
the betrayal of a trust or confidence; breach of faith; treachery.
It is also absurd to think that half the Democrats in Congress knew that Obama was born in Kenya.
Well if as was published
It seems that Congressman Joe Pitts (R-PA) is a tad out of the loop on matters of Middle East peace. If it were up to him, Israelis and Palestinians would restart peace talks under the guidance of their respective leaders, Ariel Sharon and Yasser Arafat.
then I don’t think absurd.
Can anyone truly vouch for the rationality of the nation’s representatives?
How convenient for you to ignore the definition of treason and narrow it to the conductof war! My dictionary and education reveals the definition of treason to be:betrayal of trust or faith; trechery. violation of the allegience owed to one’s soveriegn or state; betrayal of one’s country.The Constitutional definition(Art. 3, Section 3)”treason against the US shall consist only in levying waragainstthem, or in adhering to their enemies, giving them aid and comfort.” By my calculation you and Obama have met the full requirements of various elements of this definition, both general and Constituional specific. And in addition you try to minimize the truth by misrepresentation of the facts. Liberal liar!
Then why hide original birth certificates, instead showing clearly doctored documents? Official seals (missing digits/incorrect formatting) that are fake? People with your view are the reason he gets away with this fraudulent behavior. I have no doubt many democrats know and knew he isn’t natural born, but decided to ride his coat tails since he was such a sudden media phenom.
Of course the Dems knew about the Kenyan. They only needed Obama to push ahead their agenda.
Why do you think so many old guard Dems and Rinos are getting out. They knew about Obama and were paid well to push forward the ruination of the US and to keep quiet.
Ooh-Rah!
Me thinks that many in government, know Obama is not a natural born citizen, but the Constitutional crisis that would ensue, should that be revealed, is more than they care to confront. Thus, they ignore the truth.
EXACTLY! Just as the cowards they are, both Damnocrats and RINOs!
Perhaps that is why Soros, the Demonrats and MSM chose Biden as VP. After all, if Zero was discovered to be a phony, who would want Foot-in-Mouth to take over the nation?
One reason for Biden –maybe the only reason –is to balance the Genovese and Gambino representation. Pelosi is blood Genovese and the Chicago Genoveses are Obama’s loyalty. Reid and Biden look out for the Gambinos –and vice versa on all four sets.
Commies and gangsters have a long tradition in Chicago operating hand in glove. Search [ alinsky mafia ] or [alinski capone nitti ] sometime.
Consider this analysis:
1. Obama was not born in Hawaii as there is no birth certificate in Hawaii. Tim Adams, former Senior Elections Clerk in Hawaii, attested as much in a sworn affidavit in January 2011.
RC Radio has a two hour interview with Tim Adams in which he says:
a. There was no record in the Dept of Health or at either of the hospitals in Honolulu
b. If he [Obama] had a Certification of Live Birth and he was born in Hawaii in the 1960s that would guarantee that he was not born in Honolulu;
if born in a hospital in Honolulu he would have a long-form Birth Certificate and there was no long form Birth Certificate to be found when he worked at the board of elections.
The interviewers tried to challenge him in various ways – totally unsuccessfully. Listen for yourselves.
http://www.blogtalkradio.com/rcr/2011/04/01/reality-check-radio
2. The Certificate of Live Birth produced by the White House in April 2011 is a forgery. See the affidavit of Douglas Vogt at ScribD.com (just Google it).
3. So where was Obama born? Only his mother and grandparents knew and they are no longer available for questioning.
4. His grandparents put the ad in the paper either as a general public notice or to establish citizenship for the babe. How many people put birth notices in the paper? And for what purpose? I for one never heard of it before. Marriage notices – sometimes; death notices – frequently; bankruptcy notices – required by law; but birth notices??
5. So who was his father?
As has been demonstrated at various sites on the web, Obama junior bears absolutely no physical similarity to Obama senior. Obama senior may therefore not have been his father.
His mother might not have known who the father was – or she might have known, but would rather not admit to it. Instead she chose to attribute the paternity to Obama senior for various political or romantic or wishful thinking reasons of her own or because he was willing to be so denominated.
Was Obama senior conned or did he concur ? As a point of information, there is no slot for the signature of the father on the Certificate of Live Birth.
That Obama senior visited junior once does not really prove anything. After all, have we ever heard of any letters between the two or any gifts or anything in any way that shows that senior had some concern with the growth and development of junior?
At some point there must have been some contact as junior was notified of the death of senior.
6. So back to where was Obama born ?
Unlikely that it was in Kenya (for the reason, see below)
But why would he claim it ?
His mother may have told him – for the same political or romantic or wishful thinking reasons.
On the other hand his grandparents may have told him that he was born in Hawaii – for their reasons – and to be consistent with the ad they placed in the paper.
However, there was a discussion on the web about the fact that Obama was born on 04 August and his mother was already registered and taking courses at the University of Washington in Seattle in September – with a month old infant at home. Due to the shortness of time between his birth and her registration, there was a suspicion that she bore Obama in a home for out-of-wedlock girls in Washington. Bearing the child in Washington is a much more likely scenario than bearing it in Kenya and then returning, not to Hawaii, but to Washington.
On the other hand, there is another report that his mother Anne was already in Seattle in late August with a baby of about 3 months – which would put the birth in late May. And if the baby was born in May and he was full term, he would have been conceived in late August – before she started school at the University of Hawaii (in late September) and before she could have met Obama senior. It this report is true, then Obama senior was conned – or maybe he played along to get citizenship.
It is a nest of worms. There is no evidence and there are no solid witnesses. The only real evidence is the absolutely total lack of evidence and the pitiful attempt of Obama to provide a semblance of certitude to his birth when he himself has no true knowledge of it and no reason to believe that anything he was told is true.
7. Back to place of birth, what was Obama to do?
To ride the diversity wave, he claimed birth in Kenya.
When he began to have high political ambitions, he claimed birth in Hawaii.
It is not surprising that Obama is not honest with the American people. Noone was honest with him when he was growing up.
4. His grandparents put the ad in the paper either as a general public notice or to establish citizenship for the babe. How many people put birth notices in the paper? And for what purpose? I for one never heard of it before. Marriage notices – sometimes; death notices – frequently; bankruptcy notices – required by law; but birth notices??
I don’t know about American practice but here in Canada, birth announcements are common. At least they were in my home town. I saw several birth announcements each day in my hometown paper as far back as the late 60s. I just checked today’s issue of the paper online and it has half a dozen birth announcements.
A quick look through back issues of the Hawaii papers from the 1960s will quickly verify if birth announcements are common in Hawaii. Even if it was not common practice, I don’t see that this will prove much of anything. Even if it wasn’t common in Hawaii at that time, it was probably not completely unheard of either. In any case, it doesn’t prove or disprove that a birth took place in Hawaii.
What is also well known is the fact that, back then in the late 1950s and early 1960s, many births that had taken place outside the US and/or Hawaii, were registered in Hawaii, as if they had occurred on Hawaiian soil. This practice was possible, because there was interest on both sides for such fake documentation – the parents were granting their offsprings the full benefits of US Citizenship, and the State of Hawaii was able to claim a larger population base.
In any case, these two newspaper birth “announcements” aren’t worth the paper they were printed on, and certainly they can’t be used as the backbone of legal arguments regarding BHO’s eligibility to be President of the US.
It is not surprising that Obama is not honest with the American people. Noone was honest with him when he was growing up.
Poignant. And rings true.
Well, I imagine that once you one absorbs enough Leftist post-modern “truth”-is-just-a-social-construct claptrap, it can get pretty hard to see a reason to stick to telling the truth about even simple biographical details.
Maybe the whole reason that Liberals are always pretending to be Indians, Kenyans, Lesbians*, etc. is that, having stripped everything meaningful out of our culture with their cultural relativism, they are desperately compelled to seek an identity somewhere, anywhere, they think they can find it. I sure wish that Obama just worked out his daddy issues quietly with a therapist, in the evenings after his community organizer job.
“Reality-based community” indeed…..
*On another post of yours over at the Tatler, I linked to this excellent article by Mark Steyn. Here it is again: http://www.nationalreview.com/articles/269969/libzgetreal-mark-steyn?page=2#
You’ve got a strong point. Above all else, many hard-left types I know and have dealt with have serious issues of wanting to “belong.” Their whole-hog commitment to whatever cause or group they choose seems, to me, often more driven by a need to be part of the group than what that group ostensibly stands for.
Barry didn’t feel like he belonged, so he sought out something to be. Just like it says in the book, he searched for the dreams of his father, and in doing so wrapped himself in them to connect, even to the point of assuming a Kenyan persona. It wouldn’t surprise me if he had even, on occasion, adopted a slight accent or speech affectation.
The Demorats employ the same tactics and attitude that Muslims do. In Islam it is called Taqqiya(sp)and it is the tactic of lying to further the cause of Islam. It is not only accepted but encouraged to lie to infidels to gain power and influence for Islam. Demorats are employing this same tactic against the citizens of the US to gain power and influence and they do not see it as doing anything wrong. If Obama is eventually found to have lied about his birth or his personal history the liberal press and their fellow Demorats will not even raise an eyebrow over it.
The Left does go on about ‘community’ this and ‘community’ that and ‘let’s all do this TOGETHER’ and so on. They sound very lonely.
From community to communism. The left is working hard to normalize the concept. This is also why so much insanity is flying around right now – destruction of borders, lunch time police, closing down bake sales and lemonade stands, villianizing the so-called 1%. It is all normalization of global socialism, the pet projects of both Obama and the UN, which is increasingly led by Arab nations.
Don’t you have to be a natural born citizen to be a US Senator, as well?
No…that provision in the Constitution only applies to the President and Vice President…even a naturalized alien can serve as a Senator or Congressman
Many naturalized citizens have served as U.S. Senators.
Case in point: Senator James Shields (D-IL, 1849-1855, D-MN,1858-1859; D-MO 1879), the only person to have served as a Senator from three different states. After he was elected in 1849, it was noted that he had not been a citizen quite long enough; his election was voided, and he was re-elected later, starting his term on 27 October instead of 4 March. Shields had been born in Ireland in 1806 or 1810, immigrated to the U.S. in 1826, and was naturalized in 1840. He had already served as an Illinois legislator (1836) and State Auditor (1839).
Shields once challenged Abraham Lincoln to a duel, and during the Civil War became a Union general and defeated Stonewall Jackson!
Another was Senator Carl Schurz (R-WI, 1869-1875). Born in Germany in 1829, he immigrated to the U.S. after being in the failed revolution of 1848.
Two similar cases with a different basis: Senators Charles Bouligny and Jean Destréhan of Louisiana. Bouligny and Destréhan were born in Louisiana when it was a French colony, and became citizens through the Louisiana Purchase.
More recently, Senator Samuel Hayakawa (R-CA, 1977-1983) was born in Canada and only came to the U.S. when he was about 24 (having already earned degrees from two Canadian universities).
and Pierre Soulé of
“alien”? From which planet?
“Yes, I know that’s not “fair,” in the lexicon of the Lord of Fairness, to have adopted a phony identity and deprived others of an opportunity they may have more richly deserved.”
Liberals always look out for the down troddens, what’s so bad to take advantage of the disadvantaged? Very much like the incident of the high cheek-boned pale-faced blonde-haird blue-eyed 1/32 Cherokee-blooded woman who wanted to pow-wow with her imagined compatriots. I bet Obie just wanted to know how bad real Africans were treated by the racist Americans. As they say, you have to live in other’s shoe …
And what is it about that broad that makes me cock-sure any recipes she would have contributed to that “Pow-Wow,” or whatever the heck its name was, family cook book, are guaranteed to taste like sh!t??
I’ll still take Elizabeth Warren’s plagiarized “Pow Wow Chow” over Barack Obama’s “Bow Wow Chow”.
>>The agents simply made up the place of Obama’s birth
That sentence right there, wow. It shows how brazen the lies are, how ungraspable the truth is. We owe it to Breitbart to ferret it out, but how? This phase of our history, everything surrounding Obama’s origins and his rise to power, is surreal.
Well Breibart is mysteriously dead. And, so is his coroner. His coroner died the day that the official cause of death became public. And, yes again, he died of arsenic poisoning.
Jeeziz –that sounds like a KGB or Mob hit then –a Litvenenko, with the isotope that only a very high reach in the Kremlin could deliver to London –to LONDON. The arsenic may be common but the circumstances scream –deliberately scream –Andy Breitbart was murdered, and by people who want you to know it.
Agree.
I am absolutely not a birther, but I think this bio is an interesting peek into how Obama THOUGHT of himself, or at the very least, how he was willing to present himself to boost interest in his book. I contend… and Bill Whittle covered it, too, in “Man Bites Dog”… that the important question is not whether Obama was born on American soil, but whether he thinks and acts like an American. And whatever people may say with regard to the former, it’s STILL irrelevant, because he fails the latter, and he fails it in spades.
Accident of geography is not what makes a man unfit to be president, except in a strictly legal sense. That much should be obvious. If you’d flown Reagan’s mother to Antarctica, waited for him to be born outside the US, and then flown him back to America immediately, it wouldn’t change a thing. I’m not even referencing politics, necessarily, since after all, Reagan was a Democrat when he was younger. But to the best of my knowledge, he was still vehemently American over the course of that time. Now Obama, on the other hand, could have been born in the geographical center of the United States, and if you followed it with the same ultra-radical, extreme-countercultural upbringing, well, you’d still get the same condescending postmodernist we have today. Obama has no interest in being identified as or acting like an American, and he makes it known every time he does practically anything.
I’m happy to see this bio has been dug up, because it shows us something Obama himself tells us, when he says he doesn’t believe in American exceptionalism, or passes an act that essentially suspends Habeus Corpus, or betrays our allies in England, Poland, and Israel. It provides a nice little bullet point which sums up everything that’s wrong with Obama all at once: Obama’s only interest in an American identity is when it serves his own power… and almost by corollary, no matter where he was born, he doesn’t understand or believe in the freedom that is foundational to America, because his power will ALWAYS come before it.
Obama puts his own power before *everything*.
Well said and I agree completely.
Right you are! But the current media silence is deafening. They get all worked up over some office holder’s sexual pecadillos, as if that’s really really important, but when the President is a proven liar barely a peep.
Shouldn’t Obama have already been hauled off to explain this “error”? Or is he untouchable? In that case we don’t have a president over the people, but a king.
It’s all very PoMo. There is no discoverable Truth. When it advances the narrative, Barack is Kenyan; his name changes from suburban Barry to Kenyan Barack to Baraka for a panel in “authentic” blackness, then back to Barack again as he settles in to Chicago. He qualified for affirmative action, or didn’t, or foreign aid, or not.
His book says he is a blank slate, but he clearly is not. Rather, he is a kaleidoscope, showing intriguing tidbits reconfigured over and over, upside-down and reversed, yielding meaningless patterns that the interested find meaningful.
His life is a composite, parts of him and parts of others and parts of pure imagination — he split from a girlfriend modeled on Bill Ayers’ over an issue which may never have come up in a venue that is a little of this and that at a time which suited the narrative flow.
That’s a very trippy description…and dead on.
I came to exactly the same suppositions that you did.
There must be some way to (legally) get to find out what’s in those university records. At a minimum the admission forms.
This is a huge scandal (even just as it is — imagine if it were anyone else but him — a president — who clearly approved any bio which stated he was born in a foreign country!) (or if it turned out that he received educ. funding as a foreign student dishonestly) … but … no matter what might come of it, I wonder if it would make any difference to his re-election. I wonder. Those who are already against him will want to pursue it, and those who are for him … I think they won’t care.
Oh, those independents again. How would they react?
But those that are very much “for” him — they’re just not that interested in the Constitution. It would have to be the Senate that would do something about it, and they wouldn’t — not the majority Dems. And, for sure, if it did turn out that he wasn’t a “natural born” citizen, and, by any chance it wound up leading to impeachment, there would be major riots. That’d be so horrific.
Not that it shouldn’t be pursued — it most definately should —
What would Andrew do?
How would he shame the MSM into dealing with it?
What would Andrew do? In spite of all his fine qualities, he seemed to be afraid of the “birther” issue.
I don’t think you can say Breitbart was “afraid” of the “birther” issue. I can’t see him having a lot of fear. I’ve watched him go calmly in front of an angry mob and ask them simple questions which infuriated them.
If Andrew dismissed the birther issue I think it is because he honestly thought there was nothing there.
And I agree. I highly doubt Obama was born in Kenya if for no other reason than that there was no good reason for a very pregnant woman to travel to Kenya to give birth when there were far better facilities available to her without getting on a plane. There are other reasons, but I don’t see him being born outside Hawaii.
That doesn’t mean that something isn’t being covered up. The question is: what?
His continually changing narrative about himself is a big possibility. I suspect that he has qualified for a lot of scholarships, entrances, etc. by claiming to be Kenyan, Indonesian, etc.
He seems to claim to be whatever suits his interests that day.
And I’ve nothing against that from a business perspective. Colonel Sanders and Famous Amos both did the same and we call them “entrepreneurs.”
But when it’s the President, we at least deserve to know what all he has claimed to be and how much of his success comes down to those elements.
Obama could have been in Hawaii and still not be a US Citizen (let alone a natural born citizen.) How?
He was adopted by Lolo Sotero. In the process he was made an Indonesian. When his mother got divorced and sent him back to live with the Dunham grandparents they never bothered to have him re-apply for US citizenship. The grandmother, recognizing this was a big mistake, fixed things up by obtaining the Connecticut SS number for him.
So, is the long-form Hawaiian BC real or fake? No doubt it’s been fiddled with digitally. However, the only way we really find out is if several forensic document examiners look at what is purported to be the vault copy (or microfiche) and compare that with the long-form BC published by the WH. They may, in-fact, contain the same information, but be digitally “fiddled with” in order to make them legible from a poor microfiche copy from the early 1960′s.
I’m not defending Obama one bit here, just offering some alternate scenarios that, on the surface, explain much of what we’ve seen;.
At first blush, I thought the way they framed the story was shamefully equivocating. But upon reflection, I think it was actually quite courageous on its face, because I’m convinced they know somewhere down deep, if not because they are in full possession of facts to back it up, that Andrew was “offed,” and that they sense a clear and present danger to the site, and to their persons.
So on balance, I am very heartened that their brave first step, despite the formidable forces arrayed against them, has obviously empowered many other slightly less avant garde sites to take up the cause.
Comin’ from a plain meat-an’-potatoes ‘Cthulhu’, this pious viennasausage has its funny side.
Happy days.
Obama is a deceiver, a dissembler, his trousers are alight
From what pole or banner shall they dangle in the night?
What infernal serpent has lent him his forked tongue?
From what pit of foul deceit has all his hiding and all his whoppers sprung?
I wonder what Romney will do. My guess is he will pull a McCain and come out against looking into the matter.
Romney has already said he will not exploit the Rev. Wright bribe issue and condemns those who do. He seems to be channeling John McCain.
Condemns those that do, huh? Sounds like plausible deniability to me. Does he have the power to stop anybody from investigating and reporting on this? Nope. Did this ever occur to you? Or is this simply a convenient excuse to bash Romney some more. This notion that Romney, the nominee of the GOP, must be the one to focus on these types of issues is naive and a little weird.
You’re not being sufficiently Machiavellian. Repeat loudly enough and frequently enough “I am not going to exploit the allegations against Obama that he is a kitten-pornagrapher” and the next thing you know people everywhere are asking about Obama’s history of kitten-pornagraphy.
I also happen to think that the issue of the economy is where Romney has his greatest strength against Obama’s greatest weakness. I think it’s very smart for Romney to stay ‘on message’ about the economy and leave the kitten-prnagraphy issues to the rest of us.
Or, as Obama needs to pull Romney off the economic message badly, this may be a hook to catch Mitt and label him as a birther. And if not that, draw out many conservatives and brand the Republican party as one that contains many birthers.
Aside from that, I do like to imagine this as Obama’s Elisabeth Warren side. She was 1/32 Cherokee, he was born in Kenya. These where facts used to sell them to whatever university or publisher was willing to buy it. The icing on the cake is to see if Barry’s great great great grandparents collected people from their homes in Africa and sold them to slavers.
He’s doing the right thing. He is being presidential. The fact that he doesn’t mention it doesn’t mean it doesn’t get mentioned. I mention it. Every chance I get.
By condemning it, he is above petty partisan politics, gets credit for his politeness, focuses on his message, and loses nothing.
Those he “condemns” don’t care. We keep on message just as Romney keeps on his message. We all work together to get rid of the Communist.
As you say, either way he is a liar. During the D-primary several years ago, his campaign team went absolutely nuts when they learned someone had accessed his passport file. Hillary’s file and that of John Edwards were accessed too but the Obama people were frightened. Perhaps this is the essential question the “sleuth” was trying to answer.
Where the president was born has always been a legitimate question, one that he could have taken off the table years ago. People who have dared to ask have been smeared and ridiculed. Now Obama should be asked and asked, until the question is answered, why did you say you were born in Kenya?
An even better question would be why the reference to being born in Kenya when all the books you published say you were born in Hawaii? Just how clueless do you think the people who read the publishers catalog and then buy your books are?
Exactly! No one in the literary agency — not his agent nor her assistant — ever read his book? They didn’t notice it said he was born in Hawaii? They didn’t say to themselves, “Hey, didn’t we put in his bio that he’s born in Kenya? That appears to be wrong… maybe we should change it.”
But this agency brochure was put out in 1991, publicizing the book on race relations that Obama never finished. he had gotten a $150K advance [way strange for a first book, no?], and never delivered. his Dreams from my Father, in 1995, was a very different book. as Roger noted, the info on Kenyan birth could only have come from Obama, doubtless lying to add to his exotic patina.
I think Roger is right in noting the reason for the coverup of the college transcripts, as well. I would bet American cash money that he is listed as a foreign national and/or recipient of grants to foreign students.
But the info was on the agent’s website until — 2007? Sometime in this century.
And during the campaign there was reference to the fact that she was incommunicato for a while …
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They put down he was born in Kenya and his paternal grandmother said he was born in Kenya and the issue about his Social Security card being from Connecticut and his whole Hawaiian birth certificate issue…because you are racist.
That will be the conclusion, “it’s a distraction”, and Elizabeth Warren is a Cherokee.
Why does none of this matter to the Propaganda and Lies Ministry? Because they don’t give a Tinker’s Dam that we have a renegade White House and a rogue Senate.
They don’t care a whit about the Constitution, because it isn’t the founding document of a country that they really like all that much. Ruth Bader Ginsberg doesn’t think it’s much of a model to follow, so our White House, our Senate, our NLRB, our DOJ, our EPA and part of our Supreme Court don’t think much of it …or our rules of engagement in passing legislation or conducting foreign wars or protecting our borders or preserving our freedoms.
What attachment to the Constitution and preservation of our rules and regulations have the Democratic Party leaders shown in the past three years? They passed massive legislation without reading it…in reconciliation. The ran guns to drug cartels. They “fixed” a case involving open threats, with weapons, at a polling place. They sued a state and threatened to turn them over to the UN. They appointed czars and czarinas to circumvent the checks and balances of power. They entered a war without authority, permission or request. They violated the campaign finance laws against foreign influence by shutting off the credit card check.
And these…are the KNOWN….and…OFFICIAL acts that we know about.
The Propaganda and Lies Ministry is not only completely incurious, they are actively conspiratorial in covering up, tamping down and suppressing ALL of this information. Not just the grades of the “genius” icon…who somehow got into Columbia without a single honor of any type, but got into Harvard Law without a single honor of any type…and a black hole of a past…where not a molecule of light escapes to shine or shed upon it.
Elizabeth Warren is a Cherokee. Except the Cherokee don’t think so.
Barack Obama visited countries not open to US citizens on a passport that indicated something that would allow him to do so.
If you add up all the “coincidences”, only a fool would say that there is nothing more to investigate. Only a bigger fool would say that the Propaganda and Lies Ministry isn’t actively concealing and covering up the logical questioning.
We don’t have a “conclusion” because it doesn’t fit the pre-formed narrative.
Elizabeth Warren is a Cherokee, the Democratic Party is filled with Constitution defending and loving patriots, this administration is open and transparent, the Senate is run by an adherence to its own rules and Barack Obama does not have a murky past. That’s all there is to know, that’s all you need to know and that’s all you are going to know. Ever.
Jeremiah Wright asked God to Damn America.
He got his wish.
Whew, you got my blood boiling, cf, and it’s only 8:30 in the morning! Well said.
CFB, in good form as usual.
Just think of this whole scenario going down in the case of a Republican administration. The cries to impeach & throw under the jail (let alone just in it) would be absolutely deafening. It really is a shame that, so far, there is no resolve to coalesce into a large enough group to actually march upon Washington & demand that the right things be done here. Will we ever reach the proverbial critical mass? I gather not.
Kudos for the correctalicious tinker’s dam! (I’m a recovering usage snob…)
Hammer meet nail head!
I mean c’mon, Soc. Security, Medicare, Dept of Education, our fiat money, they’re all unconstitutional… why not throw our President in there for good measure?
You are exactly on target…
And media doesn’t need to care what they do, because they all want the same thing. Lies, and trampling the Constitution are no big deal, because we’re finally heading to that really cool place everyone wants to go to anyway, right?
I saw that same attitude on display with the Clinton apologists:
‘but…Its perjury , damnit!”
“So what, he was getting some”
Sex is so desirable, its OK with them if you to criminal things for it.
Likewise, Socialism is so desirable, its OK with them if you do LOTS of criminal things to get there.
Born in Kenya or not, this shows that the guy is not presidential material. He is a bald-faced liar. That was plain to see for many of us from the beginning. In spite of this, many will still support him. I think if he left moochelle, came out of the closet and married Kenny Chesney at the country music awards wearing a dress made out of confederate flags, they would still vote for him.
I was never a ‘birther’, but it is difficult to dismiss all the discrepancies and mysteries surrounding the guy. There is no reason for that to be the case other than to conceal something important about the guy’s past. It is time to be done with the bullshit and find out what that is.
“I think if he left moochelle, came out of the closet and married Kenny Chesney at the country music awards wearing a dress made out of confederate flags, they would still vote for him.”
That, my friend, is comedy and political gold!
Has the US ever had a President with so many question marks about his life?
I don’t care where he was born: what’s done is done. Same for the Presidency. Obama is the symbol of a larger problem, and in fact he exists because of this larger problem: unthinking political correctness based on a racial and gender hierarchy. If you think this doesn’t exist, and that the Left embraces it while they cry out about it, you’re wrong.
What type of idiocy does it take to think of one’s self as a “wise Latina,” when we know that same woman would hate the idea of the wisdom of whites. How about a wise Jew? How does that sound? I have a problem in the neighborhood, some kind of spat with friends. We all go to find the wise Jew because Jews are like Solomon and good in a pinch when there’s no Latina’s around.
It’s absurd, and yet it’s the fundamental philosophy of the Dem Party. How else does Obama double down on being black by being REALLY black by saying he’s a Kenyan? Why would high-cheekbones Warren yearn to be an Apache warrior? For the cache of race.
What’s most frustrating to me is that if you carp about this to a liberal, they talk as if you yourself have some weird obsession with race and conspiracy theories. Watch any gay person, feminist or black person on TV talk about social justice and tell me they don’t believe they have an innate insight on such matters. The argument goes that women, gays and minorities have up close and personal experiences with bigotry and discrimination and so their perspective is one forever beyond the perception of a mere unwise white man to ferret out – we are left in the perceptual dust. The Dem Party’s cadre of the Rainbow Coalition therefore are experts in this regard, and this is why to disagree with them is to occupy Bigot Street. It is also why the Big Three of bigotry expertise believe themselves incapable of bigotry: because they employ no tools of self-criticism to check and analyze their own behavior – there is literally nothing to analyze.
This view the Dem Party has of themselves, and which we see every day, is not an easy thing to argue with the general public. It seems many of them see it but just as many do not. There are millions of people who defer morality or spirituality based on such profound things as turbans, skin, baseball caps, country or origin, etc.
We have let movie stereotypes overwhelm our reason, but only in one direction, an overreaction to the supposed endemic racism and oppression of old America. Anyone who was ever part of an oppressed group now gets the opposite treatment. So, the scramble’s on to have high cheekbones, forget your white mother and, conversely, to make Zimmerman over into a white man – a Hispanic really wouldn’t profile a black kid and we all “know” that – just ask any Latina, wise Jew, inscrutable Orientals (no, not that – Asians), mountain-worshiping native American or person born in a “knowing” country.
I see no way to fight this nonsense. The counter-screeching from the Left is loud and determined. They know what they know and that’s that. They know the people in the Third World are spiritual compared to Americans, even if they’ve never left America. Even a smart photographer like Robert Frank came to America and said he shot black folks because they seemed more interesting. No surprise his seminal book “The Americans” helped kick start these obnoxious stereotypes that confer “interest” and lack of it by skin color.
Obama is a con man – he knows the value of his skin and the value of an accent. In fact, his innate “wisdom” is non-existent. As far as I can tell he’s an unflinching fool, an expert in political correctness, offending those we’ve given permission to offend and not offending the protected. When he speaks, in terms of actual ideas, he almost literally doesn’t say anything. In fact, I don’t even see where he derives joy from in life in a professional sense – simply power – adoration? Whatever it is, Obama is not the cause of our problems – his high-octane gasoline is an engine entirely propelled by PC long since in place.
Words are important to the Dems and their Rainbow – you only have to look at the constant evolution of names for black people in our history to see that. Each apparently acquires a taint by association and so is discarded in favor of a new one without associations, because they are driven by labels and not the thing itself. That’s why retarded people are given a new name – then they’re not retarded anymore, but “challenged” and everyone’s happy because some kind of cure or exorcism has been enacted but a rose by any other name is a diabolical perceptual trap to a liberal which they solve by putting wise Latinas at the pinnacle of a system they couldn’t create for themselves in their own polities if I gave them a Bill of Rights at the point of a bayonet.
Well said.
If you don’t already have a blog, you should start one. Among the best explanations I have yet to read that lays out just what has prompted the coup d’etat that was the 2008 presidential election.
Before I would do such a thing, I would have to learn how to properly construct a paragraph and sentence, learn the proper rules of grammar and also punctuation. I have no plans to do so. Then I would have to learn how to express myself without sounding like Mr. frickin’ Spock.
Not necessary. Besides, the power of the writing is in the lyricism. The rules of grammar and syntax would inhibit. Many of these rules were designed for effective-but-dry expository writing.
I would enjoy reading your blog.
Not a criticism but an added response. To refer to Obama as a con-artist implies that his supporters are victims. The root of our current problem relative to Obama is that the so-called victims are not victims at all. They know that he is a liar and their attitude is “who cares?”. He will deliver them what they want and that is all that matters. They hope that the “con” will work on you and convince you that they are correct in their support. These are the same folks who say “who cares what the constitution says” or “I will never vote for a damn Republican”. These are our friends, relatives, and neighbors who really like the idea of a benevolent dictator just so long as they are the recipients of the benevolence which can range anywhere from social status to outright cash payment. They actually applaud the con as clever (think MSM) and hope that it will sidetrack you. Therein lies our problem. It is sad to say but many of our fellow Americans, and that may well include loved ones, aren’t that thrilled by the American experience. The whole thing about the Founders, Constitution, Bill of Rights, and Declaration of Independence is just is so much uninteresting historical stuff. For those of us who love and embrace those ingredients to our heritage, well, we’re just kinda lovable kooks. I don’t know how we’ll ever change that situation except to make sure that they stay in the minority. The Obamas of the world will come and go but the uninspired Americans won’t. They will continue to shop for the next Obama. The slicker the better.
What you say is true in a sense: it’s a take on the ends justifies the means. But the difference is in how liberal thinking leads them there. Liberals already “know” things they “know” and so their lack of thought, or ignoring facts, is because they already have decided America is such and such. Why think about what you already know? The amusing irony is that this is from a Leftist culture that purports to admire Eastern spirituality but never indulges in actually meditating on “obvious” things or what they “know.”
This is why morons think an incredibly racist Jeremiah Wright’s sermons were cherry-picked – with no tools of self-criticism in place, no doubt, no ability to make simple comparisons or provide context, the fact that Wright’s on their side is good enough because it’s the right side and therefore Wright can’t have really said what he said. It’s Orwellian delusion brought to a very high level.
As humans in a complex world, we are all vulnerable to a lack of perception. That’s why scholars 2,000 years ago wrote things like “To any vision must be brought an eye adapted to what is to be seen.” In this sense, the Democratic Party believes in the exact opposite and so can be said to be devolving when they evolve on issues. Democrats believe what is to be seen must be adapted to the eye.
It’s pointless and self-defeating to question Obamas’ birthplace. To do so is to be labeled a kook. The focus should be on demanding full disclosure of his years at Occidental, Columbia and Harvard. The medias’ lack of curiousity is a disgrace, although understandable. Obama is creepy.
The solution definitely lies in the college records somewhere – it’s the only explanation for the secrecy. Bush, Gore, and Kerry were all mere “C” students as undergrads (they actually gave Cs, Ds, and Fs in those days of yore); Obama managed a 3rd year transfer to Columbia and got into Harvard Law, so his transcripts could hardly be worse.
But he admitted in DOMF to being a lackluster student at Occidental, and 3rd year transfers to Columbia, then as now, required exceptional qualifications. And while we have no records, we do know he wasn’t an honors grad from Columbia because those names are made public. Yet even honors grads from Columbia were turned away from Harvard Law, so how exactly was Obama qualified?
My own suspicion is that he had dual citizenship in Indonesia, due to his stepfather. That’s fine for anyone under 18. Once you are 18, though, any overt act you take as a citizen of either country effectively makes you a citizen of that country. If he registered to vote in the USA, it’s declaring American citizenship. If he claims foreign citizenship to qualify for a scholarship or admittance, it’s declaring himself a citizen of that country. Similarly if he requested a passport from another country (how DID he travel to Pakistan, anyway?).
It’s even possible Obama just wants to cover his deceptions: he may have voted in the US, but lied about it to get an Indonesian passport or a foreign student scholarship he wasn’t eligible to receive. But if he hadn’t done something to establish his US citizenship after turning 18, but did take advantage of the other country, he effectively renounced any claim to US citizenship.
Notice in all these scenarios the physical location of his birth is irrelevant, which is why his team may have teased the “birther” element as they did, because they were on the wrong track.
Good points. How much do you want to bet that if Obama releases his college transcripts, they will not be unambiguously authentic?
You raise two questions that should be easily answered: (1) When (or did) he register with Selective Service? (2) When did he register to vote? Either one should have resolved any dual citizenship status. It may be that at the time he applied for, say, Columbia, in his mind he was a dual US/Kenyan citizen by virtue of maternal/paternal nationality. If there was some preference (either in admissions or financial aid) by virtue of foreign nationality, he opted for his Kenyan side. Not an outright lie, in his view, so much as a convenient fudging.
Of course. Everyone knows Barack would never tell a lie!!
As far as selective service goes he is of the age of where he didn’t have register. I am of around the same age as Obama. The draft ened when I was around a freshman in highschool. For several years there was no requirement to register for selective service. The requirment to register was braught bac a few years later. When it was revived it was required for persons turning 18 years old. So there is a small group of people born in the late fifities and early sixties who did not have register.
I must first not that I have no desire or interest to defend The One. His is an abomination. BUT…
“he had dual citizenship in Indonesia, due to his stepfather. That’s fine for anyone under 18. Once you are 18, though, any overt act you take as a citizen of either country effectively makes you a citizen of that country. If he registered to vote in the USA, it’s declaring American citizenship. If he claims foreign citizenship to qualify for a scholarship or admittance, it’s declaring himself a citizen of that country. Similarly if he requested a passport from another country (how DID he travel to Pakistan, anyway?).”
The above is not an accurate description of dual-citizenship – in fact it is nonsense. The US has recognized dual-citizenship pretty much from the beginning. The Constitution itself is silent on the matter but the caselaw is extensive. People cannot use US citizenship to escape legal obligations they may carry as citizens of another country but there are otherwise few, if any, restrictions about dual-citizenship. Actions taken beyond the age of 18 to not automagically declare or renounce US citizenship under US law.
This blackmail is exactly what made him president in the first place. Somebody promised Obama he would get to be president for 3.5 years doing silly things his way. On key issues like war, however, he will obey. Joe Biden is obvious an “insider”, as most VPs have been at least since the 1960s.
Shudder to think what they have on Mitt Romney, or would simply make up about him.
hi rog’!
i first posted about dystel and obama in 2006 – and repeatedly since!
here’s my new original insight into doterich’s bio error:
http://astuteblogger.blogspot.com/2012/05/bombshell-heres-how-obamas-literary.html
I DON’T THINK OBAMA TOLD HER THIS LIE – (NOT BECAUSE HE’S NOT A MENDACIOUS PIECE OF CRAP; HE IS!) – BUT BECAUSE THERE WOULD BE NOTHING FOR HIM TO GAIN BY TELLING IT TO HER.
HERE IS HER EXPLANATION:
“This was nothing more than a fact checking error by me–an agency assistant at the time,” Goderich wrote in an emailed statement to Yahoo News. “There was never any information given to us by Obama in any of his correspondence or other communications suggesting in any way that he was born in Kenya and not Hawaii. I hope you can communicate to your readers that this was a simple mistake and nothing more.”
HMMMMMMMMMMMM… FACT-CHECKING?
WHAT DID SHE CHECK?
I GUESS SHE GOT IT FROM HARVARD – OR COLUMBIA, AND THEY GOT IT FROM OBAMA’S APPLICATIONS.
I BELIEVE THAT BARACK HUSSEIN OBAMA FALSELY CLAIMED HE WAS FOREIGN-BORN IN ORDER TO GET INTO BOTH SCHOOLS.
LIKE HIS PAL, THE CHEROKEE ELIZABETH WARREN, OBAMA TOLD A LIE TO ADVANCE HIMSELF.
NOT TRUE?
ONLY ONE WAY TO PROVE ME WRONG: OBAMA MUST RELEASE HIS COLLEGE APPLICATIONS.
“We owe it to Andrew B. — and to our country.” Indeed we do. Now more than ever.
Pied Piper — Barack Obama
City Counsil — US Congress
The Children — The American people
The Rats — The left-wing electorate
So… does this make Obama the first “Birther”? Is the whole “Birther” issue created by him as an elaborate distraction? I do think it would be funny to start accusing him of it. It has been used as such a bludgeon against others I am curious on what effect it would have on Obama. Maybe he might have to actually explain his time at college.
I’m actually more interested in the transcripts- the actual grades. We’ve had to endure the endless scoffing and eye-rolling over how STUPID were George Bush/Sarah Palin/Clarence Thomas/Dan Quayle/name the conservative target of the moment. Well then, out with them. Wasn’t it such a relief to the “elites” finally to have an “intellectual” in the White House? What do they have to worry about? Wasn’t that the story? I’m still waiting to be bowled over by the Obama’s brain-power. He can’t speak without a teleprompter and even with a teleprompter, he’s as dull as a life insurance salesman on quaaludes. He’s afraid to do press conferences…
I think the truth of the matter is that Barack Obama is such an amazing, super-fantastic, perfect human being- he was able to be born in both Kenya AND Hawaii. It is truly a miracle.
This is the best explanation of all. I just wonder which presidential biography on whitehouse.gov will get this bilocational event inserted as a “Did you know…” teaser link.
So where is Dan Rather?? Dan, we have a real story here!! Remember the Galveston hurricane? Dan, Dan, where are you, you impartial “journalist.” Or is it whore?
#12: Fail Burton,
You expressed the real kernel of the problem when you described Obama as a con man. I don’t know why I never saw him in that light but that, more than anything, explains the man and his actions better than anything else.
Do you suppose deep down there is still something of the liberal left in you, Roger? That something that’s deathly averse to being called names? “Birther!” So you do this long, shuck and jive, circular dance, and will keep dancing until someone with more balls than you have, like, say, Anne Barnhardt, but who also has mainstream, libertarian bona fides, who says it first. Till then you’ll just keep moving your toe around in the barracuda infested pool and whistling. Someone, please, give me a 2×4. Roger needs our help, badly. What is it with all these conservative and libertarian apologists for Obama. “He can’t be anyone other than he says he is, can he? I mean, he must have lied before because otherwise that would mean he is lying … NOOOO!! That CAN’T be, because if it was true then we’d ALL be BIRTHERS and people would call us names.” Keep dancing, Roger. Don’t look at the evidence, just keep theorizing. You’re safer that way. You remind me of the guy in Princess Bride who says, “You’ve heard of Aristotle, Plato… idiots!!” But after all that hard core thinking, he eventually drinks the goblet with the poison.
Well it appears that it wasn’t just his literary agent who is confused about his birthplace.
Michelle Obama a birther!
It’s unfortunate we no longer have a free press. If we did I have no doubt they would determine whether the 1961 medical records of Kapiolani Hospital are preserved on microfiche. If they are, the issue as to whether Obama is committing treason could be addressed in the most efficient and reliable way. America used to be a nation of laws. It’s time to junk the pejorative term birther and Restore America. There should be no issue as to Obama’s eligibilty. Americans have right to know whether the person who is causing so much damage is an imposter.
I have a simple explanation: Obama has no idea where he was born. It never occurred to him that it mattered. Certainly it didn’t matter earlier in his life, and when it became a concern, there was a lot of changing of the narrative as we see in this bio story.
There are too many other worrisome anecdotes for the explanation to be this simple (Connecticut social security number, the trip to Pakistan, etc). I’ll propose a different explanation:
Somewhere in that small mountain of sealed records is the real smoking gun – something that would have immediately disqualified Obama from the presidency. The wise thing is to seal not just the smoking gun (That would draw attention to it). The wise think would be to seal them ALL, making it like a shell game. FIght the release of any of those records just as vociferously as the smoking gun.
When the birth certificate controversy started I’m sure that Obama’s handlers were delighted. It meant their strategy had worked.
Pretty funny too that that Bio claims his father was the Finance Minister of Kenya. A simple Google search will show you that BO Sr was never on that list. I gather he claimed to be some sort of economist who services were paid for by an oil company. Pretty much all lies…easily enough to get you fired as CEO of Yahoo.
Roger, some possible further information:
http://www.infowars.com/ap-declared-obama-kenyan-born/
Apparently Obama himself claimed he was born in Kenya when running for Senator.
Now *that* link was interesting. (Go there, folks.)
I think the deal is Obama used a Kenyan birth as a ticket for preferential treatment in addition to the race card. You know, the “exotic” card.
It is entirely possible that he ‘mis-represented’ his birthplace to Michelle for years also.
When he was running for US Senator (the damning quote in the link) I do not think it had actually ocurred to him that the “Kenya” birth was a trap he set for himself as I don’t think the US presidency was on his radar, believe it or not. But Keyes’ bringing it up sure brought it to the forefront. (And him a *Constitutional* lecturer! Oh my!)
As with much of what Obama says and does, he reversed position when it was expedient, and does it with such aplomb and great assistance from the lefty MSM media, that his skeptics are painted as looneys.
OK MSM guys — when is *your* Sister Souljah moment? Barack Obama is a pathological liar. It is harder and harder to make excuses. The pile is higher, the pit deeper, every day.
And that, to quote one of our beloved leaders, is one BF deal.
Holly…
The bio said Kenya, but the book said Hawaii – page 100 in Dreams -”…during the day on drives around the island or on short walks past the private landmarks of a family: the lot where my father’s apartment had once stood; the remodeled hospital where I had been born; my grandparents’ first house in Hawaii,…”
Did anyone ever READ the book? Did Obama?
Has anybody bothered to check a FIRST edition of “Dreams?” Could the birth location have been changed in later editions to keep up with Obama’s ever-enlarging Baron Münchhausen narrative? His own Illinois campaign claimed he was born in Kenya. Was his long-ex literary agent in charge of that too?
“Dreams” was out for years before the Press, his handlers, and everyone else stopped saying he was from Kenya (about 2007). Janet, you’re right: Nobody–including Obama, his wife, his literary agents, and his gushing reviewers–actually read “Dreams,” or somebody would have noticed the glaring discrepancy between what it said, or later said, and what Obama said, and now says. Clearly, he didn’t write it, and it isn’t an autobiography. The whole thing–story, star, and theme–is a PR fabrication, a literary and political fraud. Obama was invented out of whole cloth, but by whom? It would have to have been a person or persons, or government agency or agencies capable of erasing or hiding his entire paper trail, saturating the media with subliminal messages (e.g., the endless halo pictures, neurolinguistic programming terms, and so on), and bullying every judge in every courtroom in which Obama’s credentials have been challenged. I don’t think even the Democratic Party has this kind of money or power. CIA, FBI? Maybe.
What makes the “born in Kenya” claim significant is that it’s presented as Obama’s actual qualifications as an author. The others, even New Kids on the Block, are described in their bios based upon their accomplishments. Obama was being presented as someone whose significance was based, largely, on his exotic past. Law Review editor at Harvard? They come along every year. But a black, born in Kenya, raised in Indonesia, law review editor at Harvard? Well, there’s only one of those. And if you want to hear his story, ladies and gentlemen, you’ll be paying us 10% of the fee.
“But why would he choose to do that? Well, maybe for a grant, a subvention, a scholarship that was available uniquely to students from Africa or similar locales.”
I’m sure he lied about it to get either a grant or a scholarship. Just ask Elizabeth Warren about the benefits of going to Harvard under an ethnic alias. That’s why he doesn’t want to have his college records released, because they probably showed that he lied about his heritage to get a scholarship to go to the far-left liberal Ivy League schools that just eat this stuff up with a spoon. Again, just ask Elizabeth Warren, who wasn’t even close to being Native American, the advantages of being in a minority in those schools. If Obama were a black Kenyan woman, she not only would have received scholarships, but lots of job offers as well. LOTS OF THEM. After all, Michelle didn’t do so bad with her background, right, and she wasn’t even from Kenya.
Just shows that this guy has told so many lies in his life, especially about the Marxists who raised him, that he hasn’t got a clue where the trush is these days. All of this should have been told in 2008 if the mainstream media was doing its job. But it didn’t and now you know why so many people don’t trust the mainstream media anymore.
Why are the O-people so skittish about his academic record at all? It’s not like it matters in any substantive way, either here or elsewhere. If you want to go outside the U.S. for prominent politicians who had much-less-than-stellar academic records, Exhibit A would have to be Winston Churchill by any reasonable standard. Of course, he was very up front about it, and worked like a horse to overcome his deficiencies in later life. Or how about politicians with no post-secondary academic record at all? Like Harry Truman? For that matter, when have gentleman’s Cs ever been a handicap in American politics and why is there any reason to think they’d have been such in this race? It wasn’t like O was up against someone with a Ph.D. from MIT or Cal Tech or something. [N.b. I wonder how Angela Merkel, who was a practicing physicist before wading into the swamp, took to being lectured by O.] One might think that the palace eunuchs didn’t want to distract from their “Palin is an idiot” narrative, but then they didn’t know she’d be the VP nominee until late summer 2008, and by that time O had been running since about 1974. In any event the lack of interest in the data behind a key portion of their narrative — “this guy is not just smart, he’s a genius” — is something of a dog that didn’t bark, isn’t it? And remember that “genius” blather was not just A Talking Point, it was one of about three talking points they had, because there was no record of accomplishment to tout.
Obama’s college life was ignored by the media because he was listed as a foreign student from Kenya, and his Long Form birth certificate was never pursued because it listed his religion as Muslim.
Forget about Obama, he’s a distraction. This is really about the stunning lack of integrity in the political process. Recall that Obama now hails from Chicago, the voter fraud capital of the nation, and perhaps the world. Obama is the product of the party machine, regardless of where he was born, he’s a fraud, a fake, a phony, a flimflam man, and a party apparatchik.
I’m sure some recall the lamentations that Canadian-born Jennifer Granholm, the leading light of the Democratic Party, was ineligible to run for President. Why imagine… she could have done for the country what she did for Michigan! But no, her history was on record… so enter the Empty Suit, a few records changed (or changed back) and we’ve got a contender. And Barack has done for the country what Jennifer did for Michigan. If you’re wondering, the GOP’s vetting of Obama consisted of “nudge, nudge, wink, wink, Barack’s your uncle”.
Obama is the poster child for Congress’ abysmal public approval. We can’t trust anything a politician says, we can only trust what they do. And what do they do, regardless of party affiliation? Raise taxes, spend more, reward their cronies, and strip us of liberty. The entire process is corrupt because government is inherently corrupt. The only way to manage that corruption is to reduce the size and scope of government to the smallest level possible… and then cut it in half.
Again, this isn’t about Obama, it’s about Public Corruption throughout every level of both national parties, and particularly at the highest levels. It’s no wonder Congress Critters have to call themselves “Honorable”…
But whatever he did, the question remains. Why did they put “Born in Kenya” in his bio and leave it there until 2007? The latter part of that question can of course be ascribed to normal human sloth, but the first part — there’s the rub.
Didn’t you read the Breitbart crew’s follow-up posts? Barry’s bio was changed at least four times over the span of sixteen years; and not once in all that time did they fix the one glaring error… So I don’t think you can attribute the “mistake” to mere human sloth.
Doesn’t that seem odd, that they’d add things like he grew up in Chicago in the same sentence containing the “born in Kenya” bit, but they wouldn’t fix the error of his birthplace? It’s not like whoever made the changes didn’t read the rest of the bio while they were looking at it, right?
I’d like to pose a question to everyone who thinks he simply claimed to have been born in Kenya in order to receive scholarships intended for foreign students:
Wouldn’t someone along the way — maybe not the Harvard admissions office, but someone who okayed his foreign student scholarships — ask for some kind of PROOF he was foreign, like a birth certificate or passport?
It’s not like they’d simply take someone’s word for it, that they qualify for foreign student aid, would they? I mean… you have to produce a birth certificate or social security number to open a bank account or obtain a driver’s license. I can’t see why receiving a scholarship for foreign student aid would require less documentation than getting a license to drive…
So if there’s possibly a Kenyan birth certificate or passport, or an Indonesian passport floating around out there somewhere, can we maybe lay off the talk about how crazy those birthers still are? They might have gotten some things wrong, but they were right to be suspicious…
cfbleachers is right… there were always enough inconsistencies in the guy’s story to give most reasonable people pause. Yet there were so many who didn’t want to admit that, for fear of looking like a certifiable member of the tinfoil hat brigade. Well, since when is it wrong to ask some questions and expect some honest answers?
In modern history, has any other candidate simply refused to provide any reasonable documentation the media asked for — like medical records, college grades, selective service forms, drivers license info, or passport information? If not, then why did Obama get a pass?
Why did so many on the right allow the left to bully them into silence on this matter?
Didn’t Clinton refuse to release all his medical records when he was POTUS?
AFA why those on the right failed to do more to prompt proper vetting of Obama, I lay the blame on affirmative action. If Obama were a white man, there is no way he could have gotten away with a thing. We’d be looking at President Hillary Clinton.
Sue Sheriff Arpaio. Oh wait……..
Kinda makes you wonder why Kenya was one of the very first visits The Hildabeast made as SS. . . and what she brought home with her.
Perhaps he was born in Kenya and taken to Hawaii a few days after his birth and presented at the hospital as a baby born at home hence the birth certificate.
You got it right. He also must have read the book “Winning By Deceit” because he lies about most things to fill his ego, pull wool over everyones eyes, and scam the system. Fraud has been committed and the FBI should have carried out their Constitutional oath of office, as well as the politicians. They all are failing.
The moon bats of MSM are liars just like the big O, so you don’t expect any action to find the truth. On the contrary they will do everything to hide the ugly truth. they are all traitors.
Obama got rid of the Keynan narrative after it served its useful purpose. The media is too busy going through Sarah Palin’s garbage cans to be bothered asking why.
But again why? Why would he lie about where he was born?…But why would he choose to do that? Well, maybe for a grant, a subvention, a scholarship that was available uniquely to students from Africa or similar locales.
I’ve been thinking along similar lines. That in 1991, based on some dispensation he’d gotten as a student in the recent past, it was necessary for Obama to continue to claim foreign birth or risk being exposed for false pretenses.
Reportedly, Anwar al-Awlaki (born, Las Cruces New Mexico) claimed foreign student status for admission to Colorado State University for purposes of being eligible for and obtaining a scholarship.
Hasn’t anyone noticed that the bio piece describes O’s hippie/flowerchild mother as an “anthropologist”?
Is that a PhD conferred on girls that study various races of men?
I think the cards are starting to fall because Obama has run out of steam. He’s been a good horse, but he done broke down. Time for a new horse. Hillary, are you ready?
I don’t know what a ‘Birther’ is, except a derogatory term for someone who thinks Obama was born in Kenya..
Much of the information regarding his many lies and fictions was available during the 2008 campaign. Those of us who posted about them were called all sorts of names, including by conservatives.
I think folks are coming to the party late, at a time when it appears Obama will be defeated.
As the parent of a serviceman, I have to know that the man that can order my son to his death is at least one of us, and not some media-hyped fraud. I deserve nothing less. Show us the birth certificate!
I suspect the reason Breitbart avoided ‘birtherism’ is because its too easy to be labeled a kook. Most Americans, if pushed, don’t really give a crap about where the president was born. It is in many ways, an antiquated concern.
What has far more traction is how this bio points to character flaws. On both sides, politicians are stereotyped as slimy and corrupt. Here, we have direct evidence that BHO was willing to portray himself as necessary for personal gain. That’s slimy…that’s a character flaw. He’s a weasel, a taker, and classic slimy politician willing to be whatever the moment requires him to be. It fits well with what has already been in evidence (bitter clingers comments, etc) Americans hate that type of behavior and it will hurt him bad at the polls if the media is forced to report it.
Its the same thing that Clinton had troubles with. It was never about the sex…most Americans didn’t care if he was diddlin interns and the impeachment was a farce. The real issue is what kind of man…what kind of slimeball or coward is willing to baldly lie about it even after he’s caught. That’s the slimy part. Our culture expects our leaders to man-up, not hide behind lies and rhetoric
I take issue with a few of your points.
The Constitution is still the law of this land, and its requirement for any individual seeking the presidency to be a “natural born citizen” is still in force. (like so many phrases, as in the way some are now attempting to expand the intent of the single line known as the Commerce Clause, the framers of the Constitution never imagined the population being stupid enough to parse such simple and direct language)
That some modern people, some self-designated enlightened thinkers, diss the Constitution is primarily an indication of their own ignorance.
Bill Clinton did and apparently still does “diddle” a lot of people, but for a sitting president to do that in the Oral office and then proceed to lie about it under oath will always be a big deal for me.
To clarify, I never dissed the constitution or its requirements. I simply observed that this is not a driving concern for most people, legality be damned. A taint of sleaziness is a far bigger issue for the voting booth. I stand by that.
The observation about Clinton was similar. I never said it wasn’t a problem he was diddling interns in the Oval Office. I just said that his blatant lying about it was a bigger deal to the general populace. He is mocked for trying to redefine the word ‘is’ more than he was mocked for the behavior itself, the jokes about cigars and a blue dress notwithstanding. ‘Sleazy politician’ is a far worse descriptor within our culture than ‘womanizer’, although sadly they typically go hand-in-hand.
If you take issue with my points, please be sure you take the time to read what those points actually were.
“Most Americans, if pushed, don’t really give a crap about where the president was born.”
“It was never about the sex…most Americans didn’t care if he was diddlin interns and the impeachment was a farce.”
I take issue with any writer or speaker who claims to speak for “most Americans” (or any Congresscritter saying “the American people think…”(fill in the blank) or “the American people want…”)
That is a personal view projected outward onto the population at large. Or an attempt to bolster some point by saying it is true for people in general.
You’ve conducted a countrywide survey ?
I take issue with your claim that place of birth for a President is an “antiquated concern”.
This president has barely managed to conceal his disdain for the limitations placed on federal power in that single document he swore to uphold, the US Constitution. A Supreme court justice whose only job is measuring statutes against that document in light of their constitutionality has also characterized the US Constitution as antiquated.
Then there are guys like hotshot Ezra Klein over at the WaPo who said that “the US Constitution is over 100 years old and nobody knows what it says”.
Ezra must be very dim.
The current justice dept. seems to think itself free to decide which laws to enforce and which not to enforce.
There’s no way an agent or PR person could have come up with this on their own. Dear Liar has no real accent, so if I’m sitting across from him asking where his parents are from (mom – Kansas, dad – Kenya) I subscribe that he’s from Kansas. If he says he’s from Chicago, I assume he was born in Chicago. He’d have to go out of the way to tell me he was born in Hawaii, much less a foreign country.
But if he was born in Kenya, why then put a notice in a Hawaiian newspaper announcing his birth there? Why not Kansas, where his mother was from and her parents still lived? I can get that his dad didn’t give much of a rat’s @ass about his “wife” (were they even legally married) and seemed to lose interest in his son quickly, so I doubt the dad would have planned a false US birth. And very few mothers are going to plan a false US birth right before or after giving birth.
Easiest answer is that Dear Liar claimed foreign birth in order to gain admittance to, and probably grants/scholarships for, college and grad school.
He essentially renounced US citizenship for economic reasons. Hmmm, sound like someone else in the facebook news these days?
Last night I watched D. W. Griffith’s 1915 masterwork, “Birth of a Nation” for the first time in maybe 40 years. Today, people would call it racist; but of course people call everything and everybody racist today.
However, what struck me was that there were both good and evil white characters in the movie. There were both good and evil black characters in the movie. But ALL the mulattos were evil. What did Griffith understand about mixed races in American society pertaining to character flaws? Was it because of the lack of a group idenity that tends to make such people this way?
It seems that Obama has always been uncomfortable with his idenity.
Seriously? A writers depiction of fictional characters says nothing about mixed people. Almost everyone in this country is mixed in some way. I commonly refer to myself as the American melting pot.
I would say that you should keep your judgements specific to individuals and their behavior and not paint with such a broad brush.
“It seems that Obama has always been uncomfortable with his iden[t]ity.” – I should think that was specific enough, so what’s this crying wolf about? Or is Griffith’s insight too close for comfort to you?
Apropos fictional characters and generalizations: So Balzac could not tell you anything about the French, let alone humanity. That would be an interesting take on the novelist and his out-of-whole-cloth characters, I guess. Just as Eugene O’Neill and his Emperor Jones have nothing illuminating on the essence of being a Negro, if I should follow your drift. Oh, my!
Here is one thing that I think should be done.
Go through the list of names on the promo- there must be some who are willing to talk about this- and ask them if the info in the bio was solicited from them by the authors.
Where are the fact-checkers?
Even if the President was born in Kenya, so what?! It only PROVES his true African bona fides. This is what we need in America today, dummies! A true African who can begin to heal the division of the races. We can’t rely on Al Sharpton, for crying our loud! He’s never even been to Africa (excepting the possiblity that the Bronx is actually an African colony)!
As a side note, the “revelation” concerning the President’s birth place is a silly joke that is not really concerning us progressives at all! We’re not bothered by it!!! NOT IN THE LEAST!!! IT’S NO PROBLEMS!! I SWEAR!!!!
Watch the news conference Sheriff Arpaio’s team gave on its forensic analysis of the birth certificate released online by Obama.
The document clearly is a fake. That does not prove Obama was not born in Hawaii, but it does prove the lying continues and there is something being hidden.
Obama still refuses to give access to the original document. Why?
I like Roger Simon’s hypothetical in the comment above. It makes as much sense as anything. But nobody can know what is really going on until original documents, including school records, are available for inspection.
Of course, the press was busy checking up on Palin’s daughter and did not have time for trivial things like vetting a candidate for the presidency. That leads to the second mystery in this story. Why do those in the media wonder why they are not trusted and are going broke?
I have long known Barry was a Kenyan-Marxist. However, the thought of our president, dressed in loin-clothe, spear in one hand, hunkered down by a fire cooking dog on a spit and awaiting such a gastronomical pleasure brings a smile to my face.
6. Obama didn’t write the book, and wasn’t in the loop…
To make it as simple as possible, one word can be associated with Mr. Obama and that word is deception.
Obama and Warren made it up so they could get an advantage in school or employment.
Liberal blogs are not even raising relevant questions about this, just spinning it away.
http://bluecollarphilosophy.com/2012/05/charles-johnson-spins-feverishly-over-obama-was-born-in-kenya-booklet-news/
I think Obama should just confess he lied about being born in Kenya because it helped his academic and political career early in his life. I also think he may have started the Kenya birth lie since he was so anti-American and hated the fact that he was born here.
You’re forgetting that he was sold to us as the greatest genius since Wyle E. Coyote. Mediocre grades would undercut the narrative in a way that it wouldn’t hurt these others.
Not a conspiracy nut but could Obama be getting ready to reveal his “real” history, not run for reelection opening the door for Hillary?
I remember reading an article (1970s/1980s?), probably in the NYT (yes, I know, I know) about the young, black hustlers from Harlem who dressed in African garb (dashikis?) and claimed to be Africans, working at the UN.
There is a pesky, immovable detail which I cannot help but hi-lite here….
Federal Elections Forms…..
When Barack Obama filled out his federal elections forms (for the presidency, and for the US Senate), and signed his name to them….he did so with the understanding that submitted fraudulent information was a federal crime. So….
when he filed for the State Senate in Illinois, and the US Senate in Illinois for those offices…what place of birth did he specify? …….Fast forward….
When Obama then filed for the presidency, we can assume that he chose the U.S. as his place of birth. Now, all of these elections forms, state and federal, should consistently show the U.S. as Barack Obama’s place of birth…Hopefully, this can be verified. However, a copy of the bio application form with the publisher, combined with university forms and applications requiring origin of birth disclosure, should likewise show the U.S., should they not?
While it appears that Obama lied to some extent along the way (or knowingly allowed others to lie on his behalf). What we don’t know is whether or not Barack Obama knowingly misrepresented his history on state and federal elections filing forms.
Your theory that Obama was posing as a foreign student to gain preferences makes sense. I also think that when Obama transferred from Occidental to Columbia, he enrolled in Columbia’s School of General Studies rather than Columbia College. The former is far less competitive and prestigious than the latter. As Obama’s national profile grew, he and Columbia made a deal: Columbia would say that Obama is a Columbia College graduate.
I believe this all goes back to his college scam; that is, he went through university years as a foreign student. Which was fraud. This is the big secret about the college records, in my opinion. He just carried it on with the book publisher because he hadn’t gotten bold enough to fess up, or attempt to scam the general public
However, there was no reason to highlight his place of birth on a literary bio. It is just queer as we used to say.
Given what we have seen of Obama’s intensely narcissistic personality the past three years, it’s logical to conclude that he had seen, and likely had kept for his own self-aggrandizement, copies of the pamphlet in question.
Which then begs the question… “If he was NOT born in Kenya, why didn’t he have his bio corrected?”
Take-away quote: “Obama, of course, is a liar either way.” To me, this is the cruz of the issue, lying. Which now includes, lying about his past, hiding his past and lying about his hiding past.
The most frightening aspect of this revelation will be there will be those hordes of defenders that will say what amounts to ‘so what if the Commander in Chief is a habitual liar? He’s our liar.’
When ideology becomes a religion, we all lose.
He was a small-time scammer who learned how to B/S people who bot it. Certainly not virtues worthy of a president but look at Billie who called him an amateur. Like calling calling the kettle black.
One possibility: the biographer assumed that because Obama’s father was born in Kenya, BHO must have been too. Or possibly the writer simply confused the two men.
Note: I’m not saying that this is what happened, only that it’s another possibility.
Lemme guess, it’s a “typo” by the publicist.
Kenya…Kansas…Tomato…Tomaato…
The lack of curiosity on display by the mainstream media is monumental in its magnitude. This phenomenon pales in comparison to any previous suppression, deflection or distortion that the news industry as a whole has foisted upon the public.
The fact that there is zero interest by main stream media organizations should shake us to our core….is this America anymore?
11!
All I’ve got to say about this is:
“HOLEY SH*T!”
The lid been done blowed off!
Imagine:
DATELINE 2032:
New York, NY – Former President Barack Obama today released his 2nd Presidential memoir in which he admits he was not born in the United States and thus, was not eligible for election to the office of President in 2008. Obama, who is now 70, in what is his first memoir to be published since shortly after he was defeated for a second Presidential term in 2012, states that he was successful in creating and maintaining the biggest birth certificate hoax in U.S. history. However, because applicable statutes of limitations have long passed, he cannot now be prosecuted for committing election fraud and/or perjury. Several members of Congress have stated they will introduce legislation for a universal form national birth certificate in order to make it more difficult to forge birth certificates and other birth identification documents.
Maybe he’ll call it “If I Did It”.
I bought “The Amateur” preparing to be skeptical but have found it just reinforcing my poor opinion of Obama. His election to the presidency has done nothing to improve my already digusted opinion of many American voters. He thinks he is omniscient and would never admit that he is not a Keyan prince or the smartest man alive…..or dead.
As the author of eleven published books and seven produced feature films, I have had plenty of dealings with agents and publicity people and always looked over the bios they had written about me. Every author I ever talked to about it always did too. We’re those kind of egotists. But I have no way of proving that Obama did — although I would faint if he hadn’t.
Roger, are you kidding? Do you honestly think that Barack Obama, as a young man, fresh out of Harvard Law School and hungry to make a name for himself, didn’t read every scrap of printing with his name in it?
The man is easily the most narcissistic President of our time. To think that something was printed to promote him, and that he didn’t read it, is like saying that he doesn’t watch his own poll numbers. Of course he does, because they really are all about him.
So, yes, he’s a liar — although we knew that. My guess is that, if forced to speak on the issue, he’ll say that it was a slip of the tongue by a young man who should have known better, he didn’t think it was all that important or worth correcting, and can we please move on to what a terrible man Mitt Romney is (although it’s all Bush’s fault).
The important lesson to learn here, though, is that Barry Barrack H. Soetoro Obama has redefined himself publicly, multiple times, to suit his convenience of the moment. His very identity has changed when he wanted it to. His birthplace, his family history, his Social Security number — all changed to suit his convenience.
In short, we don’t really know who the hell he is. And the biggest mistake of all would be to believe who HE says he is.
“Come on man… you should know better when politicians make promises.”
– BHO, 2004 or so
“Arizona Secretary of State Threatens to Remove Barrack H. Obama from the State Ballot.”
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http://www.whitehousedossier.com/2012/05/18/ariz-secretary-state-threatens-remove-obama-ballot/
In other news, Obama is busy crafting an Executive Order on Fairness.
It will eliminate the requirement that the president be a natural born citizen, criminalize any effort to require Voter ID, legalize anonymous international donations to US campaigns, and allow illegal aliens and citizens of the world to vote in US elections.
Because, you know, it’s only “fair.”
I’ve always thought Obama’s secrecy about his college records stemmed not so much from bad grades (you really have to screw up to get bad grades at a university), as from the course of study he pursued, which I wholeheartedly believe centered on Marxist thought and methods. This new revelation just adds to my suspicions. Having worked for years at a university, I know they typically throw money and assistanceships at foreign students (which is why I refuse to contribute to their scholarship funds). Obama claiming to be Kenya-born no doubt gave him advantages an American student wouldn’t get. Apart from that, being a “foreign” student would give Obama a certain cachet among young females and his many, many Pakistani college buddies.
Nearly four years on, after all the damage he’s already done, it’s a little late to worry about where Obama was born. But he is revealed as an opportunistic liar (as if we didn’t know that already). He is, quite simply, the Worst President Ever.
Amazing that a President who is perceived as an intellectual (or used to be) and was sold as such keeps his college records locked up like the Templar treasure, aint it?
I wonder if it’s even more bizarre than it seems. His crazy commie mommy has always seemed mentally disturbed to me, jettisoning America and whoring around with black muslim polygamists, and other America-hating Islamic radicals – living in third world Islamic cesspools, first abandoning her kid, and then and dragging the hapless, fatherless Obama around for yucks. What if she, like Elizabeth Warren’s MeeMaw and PeePaw, lied to her son and told him this fable about his birth origin? I think Obama is a complete fraud… so in no way do I excuse anything this radical bastard has done. But in this case he may have actually have believed this born in Kenya lie until he didn’t.. Just an idea…
This entire story is going to be blamed on Mitt Romney….and everybody knows it. We will be hearing shortly about how this is a diversionary tactic from Romney in order to avoid talking about the real issues…..No brainer.
But, Romney needs to stay on point…and the alternative media needs to keep this story front and center….and factually updated. This could unravel a presidency if the worst-case scenario proves to be the real truth….One replete with a constitutional crisis. For those of us who do not ascribe to the author’s hypothetical…and believe that the pamphlet was factual…its the conssequences of truth which is the real story here.
What’s wrong with being a “birther,” if the evidence points that way? Isn’t that what responsible journalism is about? I’m so tired of all pantywaist journalism going on, we want TRUTH. Even Breitbart had to write a big long “we’re not birthers but” before reporting the TRUTH, and now I find it here, too. What’s the matter with you people???? Man up!!!!
If he is thrown under the bus as this house of cards collapses, watch for a new ‘hero’ to rise from his ashes…the Clintons have too much baggage.
I think he lies like he breathes, and the con he was running at the time was international man of mystery.
He hadn’t become clear to him at that time that there was no limit to the cons he could get away with, and since he can’t even plan out how to get from the table to the bathroom, he had no capability to think ahead about the problems it would cause.
WELL MR. SIMON I have a question, if as you said –” What if, we thought, as others have suggested, the reason Obama’s school records have not surfaced is that he enrolled, at one of those institutions at least, as a foreign student — a Kenyan?” — Do not these fine (getting queasy) institutions have ANY obligation to the TRUTH or their own set of principles? -(assuming they even have any left?). Or does TENUER (aka-I don’t give a s–t) just allow or cause them to yawn and go back to their mindless fiddling with social engineering?
Maybe someone will finally check Obama’s *6* Now thats a story I do not expect to see on the neatly nightly news, Maybe Hannity? however don’t think the Irish mic O’Reilly will even check into this.
Yes, he did it for the same reason Warren lied about being a Native American…to get some special treatment, likely in academia.
To all those who KNOW Obama is not a citizen: how wonderful for you! Now you don’t have to obey any laws at all.
Seriously, though: how to explain the birth announcement in the Honolulu newspaper? Did the Trilateral Commission or the Bilderbergs et al already decide then that the infant Obama would be President in 2008 and say ‘Oops, let’s dummy up a fake birth announcement in a US paper’? Or is it even worse than that? Has anyone done carbon dating on this newspaper to prove it’s not a recently-done fake?
And so on…..
This entire story should get the attention of Iran….Of this gets sour…a very, very big distraction will be needed to change the subject……
truth? what’s that? how does that work?
Mitt should not make any comments about this and let his Super PACs do their own thing. Instead, he should quietly publish on his website his complete CV and include all his college transcripts, birth certificate, marriage license, and any other document pertinent to his life history.
Absolutely, lead by example, the point would be made perfectly.
Connecting the dots is necessary here. I do think he was born in Hawaii as everything I have seen puts his Mom in Hawaii during the time of his birth. But the dots are essential. Why will he not disclose his real long form birth certificate? Just maybe the info on it, such as who was his father is listed as, is more important to hide given his stories and books. Also he college records are sealed more likely because he did indeed list himself as a foreign student to receive grants and maybe scholarships–same for Harvard–they are now caught up in a lie and will do what it takes to protect Harvard. Will be interesting to see how this all developes. Lies are hard to hide indefinitely–there is always someone who sees and eventually will provide the proof. Also the good sheriff might get a court to demand release of records as a felony has been charged. Will get more interesting.
The reason why he won’t disclose all this stuff is blindingly simple: to make the Right look crazy.
Stanley Ann Dunham (Obama?) literally dropped out of sight when she was first pregnant – no one remembers her wedding to BO – no one remembers seeing her pregnant – she showed in in Washington State, enrolling at the University of Washington starting in September 1961 -she brougnt Obama with her. This is all verifiable.
A bizarre point on this issue.
If (IMO, still a very big If) Obama’s family staged some kind of fraud to claim U.S. birth for him in 1961 -
Then why would he casually toss that aside by claiming Kenyan birth in 1991?
As with Elizabeth Warren – it isn’t so much the story as the story behind the story.
Great piece Mr. Simon. Awful that this info is all in hindsight i.e. the WH is occupied by this ….
My publishing record is a rather modest one in comparison to yours; but when my chapter in an anthology was to be published, it was moi -the writer–who had to submit a brief bio. One would assume as BO wasn’t a known quantity then, that the publisher &/or his agent asked HIM to submit his. G-D, the lies, more lies and yet more lies. How could this have come about? the 5th column MSM among others.
At least he didn’t tell his agent he was 1/32 Cherokee.
I think that Obama’s grandfather listed the bith anouncement in the local newpaper after his mother came back from Kenya after she discovered the other two wives and that Obama’s grandfather did that because he was not exactly happy with her choice of Obama senior. I do not think that the Bilderburgs or anyone else messed with ancient history, I just think his grandparents did it to give their grandson an American citizenship and covered it up at that time. I think everthing else that happend in Obama Jr.’s life was a course his mother had for him given her association with other people of the democratic national socialists and other groups she was known to be involved in and that they took Obama as a child and primed him all his life for him to be president. It is just an unscholared opinion but that is what I think and why I think it is possible for him to be born in Kenya. I am not sure that he was, but is a possibility because he seems to want to be a true African native. I just find it odd that given his admiration of Africa why he does not have more black folk on his team? It truly does look like he sold hisself to whomever would get him to the presidency.
Doesn’t being born to a US Citizen mother make him a citizen no matter what?
Stanley Ann was too young to qualify, per statue.
Bill Reader– I conten and Bill Whittle covered it, too, in “Man Bites Dog”… that the important question is not whether Obama was born on American soil, but whether he thinks and acts like an American. DAMMMIT BILL — IT DOES MATTER ITS A CONSTIUTIONAL REQUIREMENT ITS NOT SOMEONES RIGHT! ALL OF US MUST STOP CUTTING THIS GUY ANY SLACK-THERE ARE MORALS THERE ARE VIRTUES AND WE HAD BETTER AS A COUNTRY REMEMBER THEM AND GET BACK IN TOUCH WITH THEM. BILL CHECK YOUR “6″
Elizabeth Warren, Barack Obama… It would have been fun listening in on some of their conversations:
EW: “Don’t tell anyone, but my mom told me once she had a great, great, great, grandpa who claimed he’d once met a real Cherokee Indian. I know it’s a bit of stretch, but it got me into Harvard.”
BO: “Yeah, my dad was born in Kenya, and it got me a few AA points to put on the form that I was too.
Did Obama receive a scholarship/grant to kindergarten, elementary, and high school also? Why are those records also not available?
Finally, I can see that I’m not the only “crazy” person who has come to the same conclusion. More and more of the pieces are fitting together.
Do you think we can get a leak from any of the colleges in time to end the career of this Manchurian candidate before it is too late for These United States?
Know how some white Americans go all giddy around some pompous ass with a British accent? I suspect that in the late 1980s Obama saw how some Chicago Blacks acted the same way around educated black African immigrants. It was during this period that those like Jesse Jackson were pushing to have the collective African American replace Black in the media. All things genuinely African were golden. An African birth would be the in thing on Chicago’s South Side, where Obama was fashioning his political future.
One of those Chicago Blacks who went weak in the knees around a genuine African was Obama’s Hyde Park neighbor State Representative Carol Moseley Braun. In 1992 she elevated a South African born immigrant named Kgosie Matthews, who had been Jesse Jackson’s valet in the 1988 presidential race, to her %15,000/month campaign manager and fiance.
Don’t think so. In general, American Blacks despise black immigrants from both Africa and the Caribbean. They “act white”.
Cue the ominous background music from any “Law & Order” episode. I am sure that Mr. Obama was born in Hawaii (cue the theme from “Hawaii 5-0.) but I can see where he would have claimed a Kenyan birth from time to time. He probably did this for the same reason Elizabeth Warren did; that is to game the system.
Mr. Obama came to maturity just as the affirmative action industry was taking off. This is a guy who REALLY knows how that particular system works and he was probably not adverse to picking up whatever advantage he could by claiming the “exotic” background of a native Kenyan. Your average diversity apparatchik is simply wowed by the “authenticity” of native Africans and this may have helped grease a few wheels in O’s earlier days.
He did it for the same reason he kept changing his views on gay marriage – expediency. This is a guy with absolutely no resume or personal accomplishments at all. His great genius is being what a large chunk of our “elite” classes want him to be. He’s sort of Woody Allen’s “Zelig” come to life. He also vindicates the famous observation of Malcolm Muggeridge – “People don’t believe lies because they have to. They believe them because they want to.”
why would the authors know about a ‘Kenya’ birth. did barry soetoro say: i was not born in kenya and do not put it in the bio?
did they mention cocaine use and the period of don’t remember nothing?
i was not born in the USA. but both of my parents are citizens. can i run? for president? resident?
How about the most obvious choice, that he actually was born in Kenya and used that to his advantage until it became a disadvantage? Nearly everyone in the media, even on the right, is performing convoluted mental gymnastics to come up with any other reason than the most likely reason, the one that no one seems to want to be true, because it suddenly makes things very, very messy and because they’re all so afraid of looking like a ‘birther,’ even in the face of the inescapable. Personally, I think he was probably born in Kenya. That would explain many things, without the necessity of any mental gymnastics. I don’t care if I’m derided for it. Just because something seems too left-field to be true, doesn’t mean it’s impossible.
Why does everybody feel the need to claim that “I believe he was born in Hawaii”? Is this some kind of loyalty oath we are required to perform? Is “I don’t know” a punishable offense now?
This is crazier than the global warming loyalty oath.
Maybe President Gutsy wanted to spice up his resume by saying “Born in Kenya,” and not Hawaii, thereby becoming more of a babe magnet or something. Black man from Kenya sounds exotic; black man from Hawaii sounds like an accident. So the Kenya thing is probably a little judo action in there to get some leverage.
And after all, Elizabeth Warren spiced up her job applications at Harvard etc. with the Cherokee thing, and it worked.
It is time for all of Obama’s college records to be published.
Added to the literary agent issue is the now surfaced/re-surfaced Illinois Senate debate with Alan Keyes in which BHO acknowledges not being a U.S. citizen
Here it is 1 PM 5/18/2012, about 24 hours after the news broke about the supposed Kenyan birthplace of BHO. As of this hour, Fox News has no mention of it, The Weekly Standard (or is it Weakly Standard) has no mention of it, Commentary Contentions has no mention of it, and National Review has no mention of it. They’re either as bad as the LSM or just gutless wonders.
I published an internet essay about a week ago on Postmodern Conservative that said Obama has been one of our very worst presidents, and that a major reason is his “unprecedented mendacity employment.” So, don’t get me wrong…I detest this guy’s well-established penchant for lying; and make no mistake, if he or his team lied during the campaign about his birthplace, then he deliberately sought to violate the Constitution’s office requirements, defrauded the American people, and should be impeached ASAP.
But isn’t there an extremely simple explanation for this pamphlet thing?
This pamphlet appears to contain around A HUNDRED author bios.
So, someone is slogging through the busywork of pasting up one more of these bios, their eye glances over at the info supplied by Obama’s agent, which emphasizes his Kenyan Parentage, and they enter in “born in Kenya.” OR, the someone doing the work recalls hearing that this one author Obama “was Kenyan.” It got incorrectly stuck in their mind that he was born in Kenya. Tons more of these damn bios to enter in tonight, the publishing-house drudge is thinking, and so he is not inclined to double-check something he thinks he knows.
Why is this not possible? Is there some obvious thing I’m not seeing?
Carl – I suggest you catch up on your reading at Breitbart. According to various writers there, an author usually writes his/her own bio, and BHO in 1991 was a nobody, so I doubt they would write it for him. He had to write it for himself. Also, one of the writers a Breitbart did business with the shop in queston, and he was told to write his own bio. Finally, the bio stayed that way until 2007 when it was changed (conveniently?). If we reject the possibility that BHO was born in Kenya, then obviously he was pulling an Elizabeth Warren: pretending to be something he wasn’t.
No, he claimed to be a Keynesian, see, and the agency made a typo. Yeah, that’s the ticket. Lots of people have made the same mistake.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gBrHkxqNT7s
STOP WITH THE KENYA BORN BS
Obama wasn’t humanely born. He’s the messiah and was spontaneously generated like Adam and Eve miraculously formed from the dust. Yet it could have been from Kenyan dust.
There is a real dark hidden side about Obama. He is not an African American. On his father’s birth certificate he is listed as an Arab African. Here is another very interesting fact. His father’s family was granted the right to continue the slave trade business by Queen Victoria.
It’s not a “birther” issue, it’s a Constitutional Issue – written by the Founders to protect our Nation against people like Obama who will destroy America from within. We have been warned over and over. Our elected cowards failed America.
In this video Barak and Michele explain Obama’s birth place. http://youtu.be/8qHmXMMCrlI
Watch this video http://youtu.be/HcBaSP31Be8 and you’ll see why all Democrats and RINO’s Republicans need to be voted out of office. We the people need to pass this on to make sure that this Unconstitutional Bill is repealed.
EFFING SCARY! ALL CAPS! EFFING SCARY!
Generally speaking, within Islam in sub-Saharan Africa, there is a great caché attached to being seen as Arab. Ask a black Sudanese if he’s Arab and he will usually say yes. Obama’s father is not an Arab.
Obama’s mother was an academic and of course she understood the game better than most. There are 2 reasons why it would be expedient to list him as a Kenyan. First it would enhance his college admissions. He would have an interesting college admissions essay and that of course would allow the college to put international student destination in their literature. Once you have that and it is accepted that he is Kenyan a scholarship would be convenient or the Obamas could have been trolling for scholarships and his mother would have inside knowledge of where these dollars were buried.
Another scenario I can think of is that Obama’s mother was no longer an academic at that point and was doing her microfunding in Indonesia. (I don’t know her history that well) and because of that Obama was no longer eligible to attend college free at her former college. Since she was still on good terms with academia there may have been the understanding that she would return to academia in the future. There may have been scholarship money floating around to help academics overseas in similar situations and he glommed on to that and simply declared himself a foreign student to get it. Since Kenyan was cool he was listing that in his bio.
Obviously Obama wants to portray himself as a gifted student and not the creature of insider academic politics and so he keeps his college records shut and his personal life out of the press. This is actually minor enough and common enough among themselves that the press believes it is simply detail and has no problem overlooking these facts and moving on to other issues.
The best defense for this miserable collectivist president is he pulled a Warren.
His own wife refers to Kenya as his “homeland”…he may feel deep pride and wants to identify as being from Kenya…which is fine. The problem is it gives people the impression he was born there and that’s on him.
It bothers me that the president has not spent his life identifying himself as an American. It’s not geographical…it’s the belief that all people have inalienable individual rights that make you an American. Many people I know who have immigrated here are so quick to state they are Americans, they wanted their individual rights above all else.
I get the feeling that as a collectivist he disagrees with that.
Mr. President, are you a collectivist? Do you oppose inalienable individual rights that can neither be granted by nor taken away by the state? If so you are not an American…you are ANTI-AMERICAN.
The answer can easily be found to this mystery… if Obama’s college applications can be produced. REAL ONES… not altered ones like the “Birth Certificate”. (I put quotes around the birth certificate because as a graphic arts professional I have examined the document and find it to have been substantially tampered with).
What amazes me is how much of Obama’s life’s trail has been SCRUBBED clean and hidden away. This did not happen in a matter of a few weeks. This scrubbing took planning and manpower… yet the media was not interested. Sad.
People, people, people. Take this news with a big dose of “So what?”.
A child born to a US citizen OUTSIDE the United States is still a natural born US citizen, and therefore eligible to run for president. Kenya or Hawaii, makes no difference.
Mitt Romney’s dad, George Romney, was born in Mexico to US citizens and was eligible to (and did) run for US president, until his campaign melted down due to an off-the-cuff remark about being “brainwashed” by US briefers in South Vietnam.
So forget the birth issue and concentrate on the man’s policies, qualifications, and performance in office.
You must have skipped morning class: Obama, Sr. held a U.K. passport at the moment of Barry’s birth, August 4, 1961.
Next, Stanley Ann was TOO YOUNG to confer her citizenship upon Barry, per statue.
This issue was not at all obvious to the Wan until he was on the campaign trail. (!)
Back to your room.
interesting how people in Kenya, especially his paternal grandmother and other close relatives, multiple community citizens there all insist, matter-of-factly that Obama was born there….yet, they are being dismissed outright here in much the same way that the so-called “birthers are….
Those Kenyans are as much blood kin to Obama as anyone in Hawaii was….and even though they have come to recognize the dilemna that a foreign birth presents…they are sticking to their story….because they fully believe it to be true.
Isn’t it somehow “racist” to dismiss all of these Kenyans credibility?
I have to say in all seriousness that if the info Sheriff Joe investigation on Barry’s birth cert and now this revelation there certainly is a lot of reasonable doublt that Obama is an American citizen. I wonder how long Obama can keep quite about this important issue?
Whether Comrade Barry was born in Hawaii or not, he is still NOT what the
Constitution calls a “natural born citizen”, and is therefore ineligible. Of
all elected positions in our Republic, this unique qualification applies **ONLY** to POTUS and VP. Article II Section 1 lists the req. for POTUS and the 12th Amendment for VP. By definition, and precedent, NBC requires both parents be U.S. citizens and being born on U.S. soil, and by Barry’s own admission his father was of British/Kenyan citizenship.
http://www.art2superpac.com/issues.html
By precedent you are wrong. Republican nominees John Fremont, Chester Arthur and Charles Evans Hughes had foreign-born fathers. See my Grand Old Partisan blog article about it.
By precedent, you are wrong. Republican nominees John Fremont, Chester Arthur and Charles Evans Hughes had foreign-born fathers. See my Grand Old Partisan blog article for more information.
Michael Zak, you are wrong. Foreign-born parents are NOT the issue. The issue is their citizenship status AT THE TIME OF BIRTH. Chester Arthur’s father became a US citizen only 13 years AFTER Chester’s birth. Therefore, Arthur was not eligible and was an illegal POTUS.
Same with Obama, only as far as we know Obama’s father NEVER became a US citizen. Of course, without a real BC we don’t and won’t know who Obama’s real parents actually were. The difference between the Arthur case and Obama is we are finding out soon enough to stop the crime during its commission. But I’m not holding my breath.
Makes no difference if congress won’t pursue it to trial. That isn’t going to happen. Travisty. Criminal.
It occurs to me that there may be two ways for this entire business to be put to rest once and for all. The first would be prior to the election when the states have to put the names of the nominees on the ballot. They could ask the nominees to provide proof they were born in the US. The second would come when the electors of each state assmeble to cast votes for the President. Before casting a vote, the electors could ask to see proof that the nominees were born in the US.
The Secretaries of State of each state already have the legal obligation to dissallow candidates who don’t meet the eligibility requirements for the office they seek. The College of Electors also has the same legal responsibility, as does COTUS. And the political parties each has a legal obligation to vet the eligibility of their candidates for each office. The onus is on the potential candidate to provide ALL necessary documentation to prove eligibility.
NONE of this happened with Obama. If it had, we would not be having this discussion.
Roger you and your lovely wife may wish to share a gimlet over the newest information being published at World Net Daily regarding Obama’s bio and the Kenyan birth.
Apparently the internet archive: Wayback Machine shows in 2003 and as early as 2007 “born in Kenya” appeared on the agents website in advertising Obama’s books. But more interesting is the fact that in 2007 they revised the bio stating “Barrack Obama is the junior democratic senator from ILL. bla, bla, bla. So you have twelve years of this agent continuing the same “kenyan born” bio. There are links in the article I would suggest anyone go over to http://www.wnd.com and take a look.
Actually, I would be very interested in reading Obama’s draft of his first book “Journey’s in Black and White.” And I wonder how closely it resemble the writing style of “Dreams Of My Father.” Betcha it doesn’t!
I fully agree with this analysis. Barry was born in the U.S., but wanted some prestige and financial help for school so he re-invented his life. So we have a poser, an imposter for president, but not a foreign-born. I don’t trust him myself.
As president and commander in chief, Obama was granted an extremely high security clearance by the Depts of Defense and the FBI. He probably had at least a confidential clearance as a US Senator since he was the chair of a foreign affairs subcommittee. I was active duty Army and have worked as a contractor for the DOD off and on over the years and know they don’t hand those things out like candy. Now unless one of the perks for being sworn in as president is that you get to completely bypass the exhaustive background security process, how likely is it that whoever signed off on Obama’s Top Secret clearance did so knowing he wasn’t who he said he was? If he lied on his application and/or his true background were overlooked, it would make the Communist infiltrations of the 1950s look like a fraternity prank.
Doesn’t this concern anyone that the President himself, those in charge of upholding the Constitution, and both the Bio writer and publisher are not being thoroughly forth-coming? PLUS the mainstream “Press” willfully is not doing it’s job to investigate for the TRUTH!! Only in America. Are all the Statesmen dead and has character left the building? AND we have young people all around the world dying for this?!? Too many contradictions; too much smoke…lyers are thieves and thieves are lyers…I hope noone has stolen the highest office in the land right under the noses/know’s of the Constitution.
why wouldn’t the young narcissist prefer to be painted as an international man of mystery rather than a prep school dweeb who lives with his white granny, where his jungle-fevered mother dumped him ?
just this last week barack hussein obama was reminding the ladies of ‘the view’ that, what with his exotic name and all, his life is always a struggle…and yet he somehow, bravely overcomes.
Roger:
I can’t see how being Kenyan would be better than African American for any purpose at any US college. However, it could have been a big help getting into super-selective Punahou. Just a thought.
mca
Political satire gold to be exact, yet none of the regular venues have seized on any of the material being provided… corpseman (nuclee-er); 57 (fitty, fitty-seven) states; dare I say it – Mrs. POTUS’ slight lisp (Babwa Walters) … all regular skit fodder on SNL.
Lately there is beginning to be a little more jabbing by the humor biz but still so lacking when compared to past POTUS. Even Clinton was made fun of on a regular basis.
Is it fear of being branded “racist” or fear of being ostracized or is it a calculated effort to always present our leader in the best possible light to further ‘the agenda’?
Amazing that we have to play this guessing game to get to any understanding of this guy.
From our Constitution: “No Person except a natural born Citizen, or a Citizen of the United States, at the time of the Adoption of this Constitution, shall be eligible to the Office of President; neither shall any Person be eligible to that Office who shall not have attained to the Age of thirty five Years, and been fourteen Years a Resident within the United States.” Notice that “or a Citizen of the United States” is allowed. Having an American parent is enough, whether someone is born in the USA or not. I am no fan of Obama; I staunchly oppose his views on our post-9/11 world and on economic matters. However, it seems as if he has constitutional grounds to stand on, whether he’s born in Hawaii or Kenya. Could someone address the wording of this passage?
I think you’re confused by the comma after “United States,” which gives this impression to modern readers. Remove it to get the actual meaning of the sentence. Such confusing comma usage was normal two hundred, even one hundred, years ago, which is why it’s sometimes very hard to figure out what earlier writers were saying. Today, we have stricter punctuation rules that eliminate the problem. Read it this way: “No Person except a natural born Citizen, OR a Citizen of the United States at the time of the Adoption of this Constitution, shall be eligible to the Office of President….” The first version with its superfluous [by modern rules] comma, if read without appreciating archaic punctuation, would suggest that “Natural born Citizen” and “Citizen of the United States” were one and same, but they aren’t. Natural born, native born, and naturalized citizens are three distinct groups. If “Natural born” weren’t a specific type of citizen, it wouldn’t have been introduced into the sentence, because it would have been a silly redundancy.
As I have said before he is nothing more than the communities pimp parading around his street corner in his new suit, a hustler that hit the big time.
Should be fairly easy to get O’s DNA.
cigarette butt
glass or cup he used
hair
sweat
Waffle he never finished…
The point of all the “stories”, theories, or plain guessing about BHO’s parentage, citizenship, and real biography is not for us to parse or sleuth out. Its Lil Barry’s job to prove, he is swho ays he is. What we do know is that he is a unmitigated serial liar. You just can’t believe anything he says.
Why do the courts keep punting the football on this? Are they coerced behind the scenes? Threatened? Families threatened? This is a very evil man. I believe he would do or say anything. And I do not believe that force is beyond his capablitity.
Personally I’ll throw in with hiring the Moussad. I would just love for them to expose this pompus jerk to all the world. He is hiding his history and bullying just about anyone who gets in his way. I would pitch in some moolah to help fund the effort to uncover the truth about this guy.
The Kenyan National Government has recognized him as being Kenyan born — and has never retracted that position, AFIK.
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Whether his biological father is / wos Frank Marshall Davis or Obama, Sr. — neither one could properly obtain a marriage certificate — both being fulsomely married in 1961.
In ‘Dreams’ Obama, himself, states that there are/ were no evidences of ANY marriage ceremony of any kind — to anyone.
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With a birthdate of August 4, 1961 — human biology dictates that he was conceived circa election night 1960 — almost to the hour.
Amazing — considering that FMD lived within walking distance to Stanley Ann — and would’ve had an overwhelming desire to see Richard Nixon defeated by the Illinois vote in the wee hours.
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Unlike today, an unmarried birth was a huge social shame — normally covered up by having the gal sent to a far remove before tongues started to wag.
Since Stanley Ann’s mother working for Hawaii’s second largest bank — as head teller — she could reasonably expect to lose her job over such a stain. Again, we’re talking about social standards circa 1961.
A mulatto/ popolo child would’ve been a sensation!
Only modern audiences trivialize the social stigma. For a banker, in 1961, it would’ve been a deal breaker.
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And, then, her college enrollment — out of state (!) — PROMPTLY after the birth — tells you the state of mind for the new grandmother — who’s calling all of the shots.
The birth was radioactive, socially.
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Do explain Stanley Ann’s PASSPORT. Her US State Department records indicate that the re-up was in 1965 — making the original at least as far back as 1961/60.
For a family that never traveled outside North America — ever — why did Stanley Ann go through the hassle of obtaining a passport? They’re a pain to get — and take, normally, weeks, even months, to obtain. You have to get all of your records in order — and in 1961 — normally pay for a commercial photographer to snap the correct sized photo. ( All of my personal snaps were flatly rejected by the State Department — they would only take images in the exact size they wanted — it’s not a size popular with the public. )
And, of course, the US State Department has a lid on the original, returned, passport — and any entry stamps that might be upon it. Why? This is a gal who, we’re told, never left the country. It should be a nothing-burger.
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IF F.M.D. is the biological father then everything falls into place. He’s the funding source. He’s also the reason that the whole matter has to be buried. He’s also the reason that Barry just HAD to start up in politics back in Chicago — which is otherwise no importance to the family.
Talk about a pink diaper baby.
Sheesh.
As for the Black Political Experience: he never met the ‘hood until he graduated Columbia.
I lived directly underneath his ‘tutu’ ( grandmother ) in Honolulu back in the early 1980′s — so I ran into them from time to time. I can assure you that he lived a strictly upper middle class life style in that tony condo. ( The penthouse )
Yes, it was only a walking block from Punahou prep school. The local crime rate was zero. The racial mix was dominated by orientals ( Japanese and Chinese ) with a large minority of Caucasians.
His mother and grandparents made Barry high status — a Punahou boy — on the inside looking out and down. Whatever suffering he endured as a kid it stopped when he entered Punahou.
As far as I can guess, the ONLY conceivable way Obama can be natural born is if his real father is either FMD or someone else who was a US citizen living in Hawaii at the same time. Given the connections between the family and FMD, the MOST LIKELY candidate is FMD.
It’s also conceivably possible that all of the various legal entities at the state and federal levels required to vet candidates for POTUS and VPOTUS know this. Yet for some reason someone made a decision to hide the truth from the electorate.
Again, a real BC would clarify much. But I suspect there is NONE.
Every PR and Advertising agency I’ve worked with requires the client to sign off on all material released in behalf of the client. That includes layout & copy, and print proof. Someone has these signed pre-release approvals. Why has no one asked to see them? This industry practice for the client and agents protection, and they should be on file somewhere. Some eager reporter should follow up on this, and quickly.
There’s one other possibility, Roger: Obama himself doesn’t know where, for some strange reason of maternal psychology. Let’s not forget his family seem to have been CIA.
Why do you assume when the issue is as important as who is President of the United States? Why not demand to know? Why not demand that the actual paper birth certificate be seen by people who can judge if it is authentic? As long a Americans are content to “assume” and not actually know with proof, we are a lost nation, a lost culture, and a ship of fools. Neville Chamberlain, like you, lived in a universe of the assumed, not the the world of reality. Hitler lived in reality and he made the future. He lost in the end when Churchill brought England back into reality, and the US finally got involved too. But now we in the west all live in a dream world of things assumed. It is easier that way, isn’t it? Until reality moves into the Rhineland, and the Ribbentrop-Molotov pact is signed.
Spot-on!
There is one other possibility, Roger: Obama himself does not know for some strange reason of maternal psychology. Let’s not forget his family appear to have been CIA.
If you look at TheWayBackMachine at Archive.org, which tracks old websites, you can see that Obama’s bio was changed over the years, including after he was elected to the Senate in 2004. The claim of birth in Kenya remains throughout – until 2007. It’s certainly very odd, since no explanation appears explaining the error. If that’s what it was.
I propose we allow Jack Bauer to “interview” the “One”.
Mr. Simon, have you lost your ever-lovin’ mind? What happened to “birther” concerns being off-limits?
Yes, Mr. Obama is cold-blooded liar.
Yes, Mr. Obama’s birth narrative is beyond being merely suspect.
Yes, Mr. Obama cannot produce a valid birth certificate per the findings of a six month investigation by the third largest sheriff’s department in the United States.
Yes, Mr. Obama is ineligible for his office per the United States Supreme Court’s holding of Minor v Happersett.
Mr. Simon, thanks for your courage admitting a “soupcon of doubt” in this matter. Many of us are worried about your career.
This new info and comments mirrors what I concluded months ago to wit:
The real truth here is that BHO (and his family) wanted to DENY his American Citizenship for various reasons (cultural, legal, ect.), not the other way around. There IS a birth announcment for BHO in the Hawaii newspaper.
It just goes to show the deceit this man is capable of.
If it’s proved as 100% fact that Obama was born in Kenya, so what?
No one’s going to DO anything about it.
Ultimately, it’s just another distraction from the economy.
Obama’s probably GLAD it got started up again.
Romney’s right to ignore it.
He’s being kicked off the ballot this November in many states because of these concerns.
AFIK, the tally is up beyond 100 Electoral Votes.
The impact on the outcome, then, is VAST.
Back when this issue of Obama’s citizenship first came up, I found a discussion thread that claimed that Obama was NOT a citizen due to the citizenship laws in effect at that time.
According to what I read, Obama’s mother, while herself a US citizen, could not confer US citizenship upon Barry because she herself was a minor at the time of his birth. Being married to a foreign national, and giving birth abroad were not in themselves disqualifying factors; it was that she was a minor (i.e., not of adult age). That nailed it.
If someone can confirm or deny this, please enlighten. I realize not everything you read on the internet is true.
If you go to the website of the Philadelphia Attorney, and former Pennsylvania Democrat party official Philip Berg (which, it seems to me, is a confusing mess, and hard to wade through) who filed the first suit challenging Obama’s eligibility prior to the 2008 Presidential Election, or to another website like this one (http://usjf.net/2012/02/usjf-and-philip-berg-file-against-obama-nomination-in-pa/) you will see the factual and legal case Berg laid out, which includes his legal analysis of the laws, regulations, and policies regarding citizenship that were in effect at the time Obama was supposedly born, which legal analysis is what I believe you are referring to.
There are several different parts to Berg’s legal arguments, each laying out a separate and distinct legal argument as to why Obama is not a “natural born citizen,” but the key fact is that Berg’s arguments are all predicated on Obama having been being born in Kenya and/or then becoming a citizen of Indonesia via his stepfather Lolo Soetoro, after which it was impossible for Obama to have gained the status of a “natural born citizen.”
By itself, the flyer claiming he was born in Kenya is damning enough, seeing that it was re-edited several times over the years. But when you add in the other evidence, the narrative amounts to probable cause.
1: the birth certificate he released a year ago has been proven a fraud.
2: His SSN # is fishy, he apparently can’t pass e-verify. It was issued in Conniticut when he was living 8,000 miles away in the middle of the pacific ocean, as a teenager.
3: His selective service card looks to be a fraud as well.
His 04 senate campaign said he was from Kenya.
The President is the top law enforcement officer in the country. It is one thing to jay walk or to have a drunk driving arrest, if he sobered up. But this is too big to look away or explain away.
Hondo
I remember reading somewhere, can’t remember where, that there’s solid evidence indicating that Stanley was in Hawaii around a month before Obummer’s birth. It would have been very difficult, especially back then, for an 8 months pregnant woman to fly from Honolulu to Nairobi.
All of 0bama’s REAL documents can be found in a fortune cookie. TRUE STORY.
Obama’s image is on the three dollar bill. Yes, it is.
I think one possible explanation is that in 1991 Obama actually believed he had been born in Kenya and did not learn the truth until later. It is amazing how confused people can be about their family histories. We often assume things based on what we have heard and never bother to ask specific questions.
Yet, that belief is sustained on the campaign trail by his wife — circa 2010. (!)
Obama would survive an impeachment and end up on Mt Rushmore….Its a given that he is not only a fraud…but his persona was manufactured by handlers in academia, activists and the political class. He is a cash cow for the left…nothing he says or does will dissuade them from propping him up.
My biggest concern is that if he is left off of state ballots…a constitutional crisis would occur. He could lose the election and refuse to leave the White House while an endless parade of lawsuits work their way through the system. Remember when Al Gore refused to move out of the VP quarters after Bush beat him because of recall lawsuits? Bush didn’t move into the White House for another month and a half after he was elected….and all of that stemmed from one state, Florida….not numerous states, which is the case with Obama’s ballot eligibility.
Martial law would be declared in DC….and a President Romney wouldn’t sniff the White House until 2014, if at all…Sound crazy? Remember, the current regime in the White House are communists.
Bush was sworn into office in a timely manner — barely.
Clinton had to vacate the White House in any event.
You’re correct about Blair House ( V-P residence ) — it had been promised to some bigwig, IIRC, and Gore made the news, again.
Clinton, of course, famously trashed the White House with all kinds of petty pranks.
The REAL ugliness was in the Congressional delay of Bush appointments — which ran so long that Clinton era players were still in action/ in inaction as late as 9-11-2001.
Occam’s razor in this case would imply that the flyer is doctored. You people are so diluted, including the author, that it is not even mentioned as a possibility. You have intellectually stunted yourself with a frenzy to find some way to disqualify Obama. I have a hard time understanding why people here call him the One. It is like you are trying to raise him up higher than other people in the hope he will crash down harder.
N Thing,
“You people are so diluted…”
“…the flyer is doctored…”
Do have evidence? Or just feelings at this point?
Look, Obama has doctored up his past, hidden his college records, and lied to the American people about who he was, all because of his past associations and probably substandard achievement.
If it came to light that he got worse grades as an undergrad than Sarah Palin got as a journalism student out in Idaho-way, what excuse would liberals have then? They wouldn’t care. They’d make one up.
BTW, that’s what I think we’d find out; that Obama was a pot-head with connections. His grandmother ran a CIA laundromat bank (she did, actually, Grandma’s bank laundered money for PHOENIX, WATERPUMP, and all sorts of nasty stuff we were doing all over Asia) and got him into the right places once he got out of the Mitt Romney Bushtardia High School For Privileged Hawaiian Families.
We’d also probably find out that Palin, who wasn’t busy smoking Maui Wowie or hanging out with Pakistani terrorists (or American ones, for that matter) probably got better grades. At least until she got back to Alaska, where everyone got high.
But I really believe that he was born in Hawaii and he was juicing up his biography for the agent so he could come across as an Authentic Black Man. That didn’t help him against Bobby Rush, who actually was an Authentic Black Man.
Please define “Authentic Black Man.”
Try, like, Bobby Rush?
That is not a definition, it is closer to a simile. If anyone can give me an actual definition that does not come off as completely racist I will be impressed. What is an “authentic white man?”
“Diluted”?
I don’t think that means what you think it means (hint: it’s a chemistry word).
Let me guess. College man. Right?
If you want background on Barack Hussein Obama, search for articles on his father. A long time ago, maybe when he entered the Senate, a British newspaper, the Telegraph, I think, researched and published an article on what British foreign service types who’d been stationed in Kenya recalled of him. Loud drunken nights in the hotel bar, bellowing Commie slogans. A quart of scotch a night. Left on a metal leg cuz of a big tree he hit w/o braking (he was in a drunken stupor at the wheel). Back channel polygamy marriages, the works. It said the elder Mr. Obama was such a scumbag that even Kenyatta and his Pinko buddies, who helped preen him, were so disappointed in the president’s dad that they went ahead and fired his ass from the gubmint.
Or consider the following:
Barack Obama WAS born in Hawaii of a white mother and a Kenyan father. He was raised in an atmosphere of white privilege and wanted to find ways to highlight his negritude as he knew he would be moving towards a political career within the black community.
Fabulism comes easily to politicians of all stripes, as do lies. This might merely have been an attempt by Obama to build his own, Afro-centric, Log Cabin story.
This is why I hesitate to buy into the latest in birtherism.
Fabulism comes easily to politicians of all stripes, as do lies.
You are rat on, sir. For proof just take a gander at the senator from CT, or the senior senator from MA, or best of all our current VP. Liars all, and unapologetic ones, men who profited by lies, cuz there is a small nowadays for being caught lying.
Obama also claimed his father had been a finance minister in Kenya. also a lie. He was a mid level bureaucrat. Obama also told this lie to the New York Times reporter who interviewed him following his election to Harvard’s Law Review. I’m thinking he wanted to impress his wealthy, connected classmates. remember, he wasn’t a kid at this point, he was 28 years old.
Like the royalty of Europe, the Ivy League schools have inbred themselves to idiocy, and brought The Republic to the brink of destruction. Fauxcahauntus from Oklahoma was the mascot when Indians/Native American/Indigenous People was the Left’s diversionary color of the day. When African apartheid anti-colonial feeling was the flavor, Barry Dunham Soetoro capitalized, becoming Barack Hussein Obama, Kenyan man of mystery, bridging America and Africa like no post-slavery native-born black could dream. More recently, the greatest image of anti-Americanism and poster-child for victimhood became the cave dwellers of Afghanistan; the Ivy League competed, especially Harvard and Yale, to get the best America-hating anti-semitic Taliban student money could buy. That resulted in them again beclowning themselves, Yale getting the 3rd grade educated former spokesman for the Taliban in Afghanistan. The State Department, infested with Ivy League idiots, opened our borders to millions of “refugees” from these cultures that hate America, hate our freedoms, hate Jews, hate Christians… We now have Dearbornistan in Michigan and other enclaves around America, many that more resemble jihad training camps and invasions than assimilating refugees who feel blessed to be here.
Barry’s birth is no mystery. The coverup is the story, and those who achieved it.
Roger:
If you’re interested, my sister shared two classes with Barry while at Oxy back in 1980. One of these was a Marxist taught American Cultures class for which she still has the notes and the bad memories. She didn’t run with Barry, or in his circles, glad to say, but did talk with him, knew him, and her presumption was that he was probably a foreign student. Not a terribly bright or erudite one either btw given what she could tell of his lack of class participation. Her first assumption was that he was Indonesian. When she complimented him on his English by way of fishing for his background, he was open about having grown up in Hawaii without fessing up to being American. Seems to me there must be an alumni directory out there somewhere worth calling and/or emailing through. I or you could probably talk my sister into cooperating if we keep her out of it. Let me know.
People! This is simple. Let’s stop complicating it:
The guy had those words on his book flap bio because he is a Kenyan.
Now, if you still need it sorted out for you: You can’t get his college records because he is a Kenyan. The HI governor sealed his birth records because he is a Kenyan. The birth certificate and selective service cards were (as the evidence suggests) forged because he is a Kenyan. His wife said he is a Kenyan because he is a Kenyan. His grandmother said he was born in Kenya because he is a Kenyan. Need I go on?
What are you trying to do — spoil the “mystery”?
guys .the only way to find out if BHO was born in kenya is for one to send an official request to the government of the republic of kenya through its ministry of foreign affairs.
PERIOD.
“what we have here is a failure to communicate”
I don’t think that most of us would care if Obama is a Kenyan, Hawaiian, Moslem, or whatever the hell he wants to portray himself. What we care about is the fact that this man has successfully divided this country. He has pitted blacks against whites, pitted the ‘enlightened’ against the church,and the businessman against the welfare recipient. He has replaced democracy with Presidential dictate. He has opened the borders of this country to uncontrolled immigration. Has allowed the Moslem population in this country to triple. Most of all, has sounded the profane lie that if you are white and successful you are responsible for all the ills of this country.
i think you are wrong…under Obama deportations of illegal immigrants has tripled…..actually since 2009 there have been more than 1 million deportations..and just check with any national airline flying out every day from the USA…there are always deportees of some sort on board.
OBAMA has deported more illegal migrants out of usa than all the last three American presidents put together before him.
He’s also let in three times the aliens as any President before. Where’s the balance?
According to what I hear the figure quoted by the Obama administration on alien deportations is a lie/myth/or whatever you want to call it. In fact, according to my source, the program was virtually shut down especially with Obama pandering for the Latino vote.
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In this report, two items stick out like a sore thumb:
1) The Chicago Tribune filed for a judge to release Mr. Ryan’s court sealed rcords.
2) The same Chicago Tribune never once sought to inquire, nor seek unsealing, of Mr. Obama’s sealed court records in 2004 while in a heated race for Illinois’ Senate seat even in light of newpaper reports as the one above.
Lastly, Mr. Obama’s MO is patently obvious in his destruction of his opponents: character, marriage, spouse, children, religion and profession…same as in 2008 (McCain/Palin) and now in 2012 (Romney).
Mr. Obama’s “Right/hand-Left/hand Rule” is on full display. While entertaining America with threats of War with Iran, G-8 meeting as “The Great” uniter, he quietly signed EO (Executive Order) 13609. With NDAA, American’s have no rights. Now, George Soros with his The Freedom Group (Cerebus Capital Investment) is buying up all American gun manufacturers…guess why? They’ll shut their doors. God Bless America. Wake-up! Amen.
THE CURRENT president of Kenya Mr Mwai Kibaki was minister for finance in mid 1970S up to early 1980S when Barack Obamas father was a senior economist in the Kenya ministry of finance.
those days because tribality and cronyism any one who was none kikuyu especially a luo tribe like baracks father was ..could not get promoted by the kikuyu dominated government.
due to frustrations of being bossed by less educated men of a rival tribe..baracks father turned to drink..which ended up causing him to die in a road traffic accident
anyway if Obama was born in Kenya..i can bet we all should have been aware by now. it is easy to find out from the registrar of births and deaths in Kenya.
You forgot to mention that Papa Bama was also a Mau Mau, a member of the communist insurrection against Brittain. It gives new meaning to the old song “Bapa Umau mau, Bapa Umau mau”.
He lied to the agent about being born “in Kenya” to a “Minister of Finance” and an “anthropologist”.
In fact, he was born in Hawaii to an 18 year old unwed mother and a foreign student.
He was puffing his bio. And that’s not the only thing he was puffing.
The problem is, he must think the American public is puffing it too.
We’re not that stupid. At least I hope we’re not.
If there were any substance to the issue of BHO’s birth and eligibility do you think that Hillary Clinton’s machine would have missed the opportunity to shed light on it? What this issue demonstrates is BHO’s inability to give a straight answer and having to keep re-inventing answers when his deceptions are uncovered.
For a long time I thought the birthers were simply kooks because of the Hawaiian newspaper reports of his birth. I did think it odd that an international airline would have allowed his mother, apparently on the verge of labor, to fly from Kenya to Hawaii. Later, when it became apparent that Hawaii permitted self reporting birth certificates, I wondered why on earth Obama’s grandparents would falsify his birthplace.
Occam’s Razor suggests that when Obama reported that he was born in Kenya, he was actually born in Kenya.
How to square all this? About 25 years ago I represented a U.S. citizen (mother of a child) in a habeas corpus proceeding brought by the father of the child (a Sioux Indian) seeking to have the child delivered to the Sioux reservation in order that a Tribal Court might determine custody. The child had been born on the reservation. My recollection is that federal law compelled the child’s return because of a treaty between the United States and the Sioux Nation. There was only a narrow exception, which we used, that concerned the child’s immediate welfare. We proved that the child was being sexually abused by the father. I wonder whether a similar treaty existed between the United States and Kenya/England. If Obama’s mother had been to Kenya trying to repair her marriage and determined that a divorce was imminent there could be every reason to establish a U. S. birth vice a Kenyan one. Obama’s grandparents could well have cooked up the birth story because of a possible custody dispute. Hawaii probably saw more situations like this than most areas because it is a transit point for much international travel. Would a Hawaiian lawyer know about this? Probably so. Does it square these crazy facts? I don’t know.
If you have a “soupcon” of doubt about where Obama was born it’s because you don’t “know” where he was born. It is not possible to know if you do not have trust.
this all reminds me of an ’08 pseudo documentary/biography of Obama that said “and then Barack Obama arrived at Harvard”. I remember thinking “arrived”? You just get a bus ticket there and you’re in? Cool.
I haven’t followed this much but has Obama ever, prior to 2007 asserted that he was, in fact, born in Hawaii. Is there evidence of such an assertion? Just wondering.
Mr. Simon, thank you for your article and daring to bring this up at all.
But…I am very puzzled: why the mystery? You write as though you’ve never bothered to study the irrefutable evidence produced by Sheriff Arpiao’s 6 member, professional investigative team, that proved that all of Obama’s birth documents are forgeries. Mike Zullo, the lead investigator with 30 years as a detective in law enforcement, stated, “The birth certificate presented by the White House is 100% computer generated file. There never was a paper copy. It has absolutely no legal standing whatsover”. Why is that so difficult to understand? So why do you cover for Obama by making up excuses for him? Haven’t you at least, in secret, with the doors locked, bothered to review, carefully, the irrefutable evidence? Any child can understand it. Why can’t today’s “conservative” journalists? Are they terrified? Obama WAS born in Kenya, that is why all his birth documents have been proven forgeries. Anyone with an hour of time and Google can confirm that for themselves. Google, “mike zullo interview”.
Why is everyone SO terrified? Of what?
Jesus, the right wing is so entertainingly stupid. Please keep this up. Please please please please please.
Yes Boris all these lunatic ‘Birthers’ and ‘Conspiracy’ nuts how dare they merely ASK for evidence to back up what Obambi claims. Left Wing moonbats like you crack me up with your topsy turvey logic from lunatic La La Land where the DOCUMENT HIDERS are the good guys and anyone merely asking for provable EVIDENCE or sight of the HIDDEN documents are branded the wrong doers.
Yes, “entertainingly stupid,” but the accumulation of paranoia, exaggeration and hatred makes me sick. It’s like watching a little scrap of meat thrown into a pit of starving dogs.
How about your ‘little scrap of meat’ make all his records public…just to, you know, satisfy the ‘pit of starving dogs.’
You’re mad as hell and you’re not going to take it anymore! Unseal the documents, prove Once and For All just how entertainingly stupid conservatives are!
That’ll learn ‘em!
Yes, it’s too bad you are having to view such a spectacle –better close your eyes. Maybe someone will come along and will stop whoever is throwing the dogs into the pit, and will help the starving dogs get out of the pit and will help find them some food. Then you can open your eyes!
“But why would he choose to do that? Well, maybe for a grant, a subvention, a scholarship that was available uniquely to students from Africa or similar locales.”
Well, in that case Obama truly is a Soul Man: http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0091991/
Obamas life story is a LIE perpetuated by an enigma enveloped by a conundrum wrapped in mystery and surrounded by deliberate misinformation.
Every time when something new is released to keep the distraction alive I think back to this blog from Leo Donofrio. He wrote it back when Obama released his long form BC and I have to agree with everything Leo says. If you don’t know his material then its worth reading everything he has posted. Sadly he has recently moved on to pursue other desires. http://naturalborncitizen.wordpress.com/
“I predicted multiple times that President Obama would produce the original long form birth certificate when it best served him to do so. Today that prophecy was fulfilled. I have always maintained that the birth certificate issue was a red herring smoke screen protecting Obama from facing the true issue of his ineligibility – dual nationality.
Like Chester Arthur before him, Obama was protected from genuine questions regarding his birth status having been governed, as he admits, by the United Kingdom via the faux BC issue until October 27, 2008 when I instituted my law suit against the New Jersey Secretary of State alleging that neither Obama nor McCain were eligible.
I predicted over and again that when it served Obama best, he would feed you an original birth certificate on national TV. Bon appetit to those who allowed this conspiracy theory to take precedence over the genuine legal issue: how a person born owing certain allegiance to a foreign nation can be a natural born citizen of the United States?. Since the BC was played so perfectly by the Obama team, the genuine legal issue will now be more marginalized than ever.
They simply played a better game of chess. And due to this sick game, Obama now sets a precedent that anyone who hates this country, from Osama Bin Laden to Kim Jong Il, can have a child with an American woman and that child can be President. Obama’s defeat of the dual nationality issue, in both the courts and the media, means that the President’s parents do not have to be US citizens. If that is true, then the natural born citizen requirement in Article 2 Section 1 of the Constitution is basically rendered meaningless.
If a person born with dual allegiance can be President, then I don’t see the difference between a citizen and a natural born citizen. To become naturalized as a US citizen, one must at least swear an oath of allegiance to the US by renouncing all other allegiances. But a person such as Obama, who was born with dual allegiance is apparently not even required to renounce all previous allegiances under oath.
The BC was a conspiracy theory. The dual nationality issue is a legal question. Obama always controlled the issue of whether or not he would produce the BC. But the legal issue was never under his control. So he exercised as much control over it as possible by allowing the birth certificate to fester casting a huge shadow over his dual allegiance. Well played, sir.”
by Leo Donofrio, Esq.
Occidental, Fulbright scholarship, available only to foreign students? Seems so, but do a search. Fulbright, senator from Arkansas and head of the senate foreign relations committee during the Vietnam war, was, if not a KGB agent, sure gave a convincing performance of one. LBJ had to keep a posse of FBI watching him, so the North Vietnamese didn’t get the minutes of the FRC meetings before he LBJ did. Fulbright also sponsored young Bill Clinton’s entry into Arkansas politics. Fulbright endowed the scholarship at Occidental –founded by Armand Hammer, well-known friend of KGB, and sponsor of Gore family. Just do a quick search –hits are in the millions, spotless sources in profusion.
Robert E @ #125 –if you didn’t read his comment, you’d better.
Combine it in your mind with the likelihood that Obama’s controllers have known all about the current issue all along –indeed may have selected him in part due to it.
It’s not as much of a stretch as it first appears. He has controllers? Overwhelmingly likely. They didn’t vet his eligibility? Overwhelmingly unlikely. They believed the truth would never emerge? Overwhelmingly unlikely. They believed the truth WOULD emerge? Overwhelmingly likely.
So, we need to game that –including the DOD sign-off on his eligibility.
Knowing the late and great Andrew’s penchant for the dramatic, my guess is that the Breitbart.com folks already have in their possession some bombshell — Barack’s Harvard application, records, and/or something similar that BO himself signed in which he claimed a Kenyan birth, or some other juicy (and, I hope, irrefutable) factoid — that they will release immediately before the election, i.e. the ultimate October Surprise.
Can’t wait till Election Day!
(Did I mention that I can’t wait till election day?)