Beyond Impeachment: Obama Treasonous over Benghazi
Is it treason when you put your own reelection above the good of your country and the lives of its citizens? If so, Barack Obama committed treason in leaving the four Americans to die in Benghazi.
Our Constitution defines it this way: “Treason against the United States, shall consist only in levying War against them, or in adhering to their Enemies, giving them Aid and Comfort.”
Aid and comfort to the enemy — what is that?
When you ascribe an action to the protest of a video when it is actuality a planned terror attack by Ansar al-Shariah, an established offshoot of al-Qaeda (if that’s not your “enemy,” then who) — and you knew that all along, you watched it live without doing anything, and then you told those who wanted to help to “stand down”? Meanwhile, our government may have been conspiring to arm another offshoot of al-Qaeda in Syria.
How much more treasonous can you get? Benedict Arnold was a piker.
Indeed, the discussion of Benghazi has just begun. And don’t be surprised if the conversation escalates from impeachment to treason very quickly. In fact, if Obama wins reelection you can bet on it. The cries of treason will be unstoppable. Not even if the mainstream media will be able to deny them.
As Pat Caddell noted, those same media lapdogs have muzzled themselves in an unprecedented manner in this matter, but our Canadian friends at least have some semblance of honor left, writing:
It is undoubtedly worse than Obama simply turned his back on cornered American citizens in a foreign land, knowing undoubtedly they would die. But that Barack did so without any compelling reason—except political—is beyond evil. Only a moral monster would have made that decision when it was within his powers to possibly save them with almost no effort of his own.
Moral monster? Those are extreme words but they fit an extreme situation and are appropriate to the use of the t-word. But it’s worse. Many now are trying to figure out the motivation for this behavior — beyond the obvious electoral whoring mentioned above, the need to be seen in a certain manner at a certain moment to be sure the Ohio vote doesn’t fall the wrong way.
But is there more than that? Is the treason yet greater? Were Obama and others covering up more than their ineptitude? Just what was Ambassador Stevens doing in Benghazi that day? Why had he left the Libyan capital to meet with the Turkish ambassador on the anniversary of September 11?
Rumors abound. According to Admiral Lyons writing in the Washington Times,
…one of Stevens’ main missions in Libya was to facilitate the transfer of much of Gadhafi’s military equipment, including the deadly SA-7 – portable SAMs – to Islamists and other al Qaeda-affiliated groups fighting the Assad Regime in Syria. In an excellent article, Aaron Klein states that Stevens routinely used our Benghazi consulate (mission) to coordinate the Turkish, Saudi Arabian and Qatari governments’ support for insurgencies throughout the Middle East. Further, according to Egyptian security sources, Stevens played a “central role in recruiting Islamic jihadists to fight the Assad Regime in Syria.”
Lyons adds, citing a Clare Lopez article at RadicalIslam.org,
…that there were two large warehouse-type buildings associated with our Benghazi mission. During the terrorist attack, the warehouses were probably looted. We do not know what was there and if it was being administrated by our two former Navy SEALs and the CIA operatives who were in Benghazi. Nonetheless, the equipment was going to hardline jihadis.
Do we know that for sure? I certainly don’t, although on the face of it sounds like a “Fast & Furious” scandal on a global scale with extraordinary geopolitical implications. But I imagine there are those who do know the truth, or a lot of it, considering the events were being watched in real time.
None of this, of course, exonerates our government in not giving support to our four now dead men in the field.
Many questions remain to be answered — some of which are listed here. But I do not think I am being excessive in raising the treason accusation. I would be pleased to withdraw it if proven wrong.
TWO WAYS THE WHITE HOUSE PLAYED POLITICS WITH BENGHAZI:
1) Based on the scummy theory ‘never let a good crisis go to waste’, the WH used the Benghazi tragedy to push it’s multiculuralism via the anti-Muslim video. Of course, the WH also used the video to deflect from its screw up.
2) To show the public how Obama’s foreign policy was working — and thus help him win the election — the CIA was told by the WH not to provide aid to the consulate. Why? So that Libyans could ride in like the cavalry and save the day, as well as the ambassador.
AFTER FOUR YEARS AS COMMANDER-IN-CHIEF, OBAMA IS STILL NOT QUALIFIED FOR THE POSITION.
Why Woods et al were ‘painting’ the attackers with lasers? Being CIA, Woods knew what assets were in the area.
This means, either the Predator Drones over Benghazi were armed or some other attack plane that can ‘read’ a laser was nearby. The WH gave the order ‘not to engage’. It was cowardly. It was calculated and it was political.
Obama has always dithered over military decisions. It may be that he just froze.
and _stayed_ frozen for six hours ?
Valerie Jarrett must not have been there to hold his hand.
where was president Jarret during the attack anyway? was she in the war room too?
He didn’t freeze … he went to bed.
Had to be well rested for his fund raiser the next day
Actually it was 8 hours that those 2 special forces heros held off those filthy pigs. I keep playing over and over in my mind what they must have thought…….no doubt initially they knew help would be on its way….giving them the hope to sustain…imagine what they thought in that 8th hour knowing they were left to fry…literally fry. Obama is not a president. I live in Chicago – he was a community organizer – then through politics – Michelle Obamas family knew Jessie Jackson well for over 45 years – Obama was handed the senator spot on a silver platter – he was senator for 3 months then began his campaign for the white house and the people for whatever reason were mesmerized. When he openly called Gov Romney a b..llsh..er that was it for me.
We as a society have been lowered to such a degree that we no longer can see with open eyes what we have become. Imagine if Gov Romney were to say this of Obama….Imagine. There would be marches in the street. I an so sick of political correctness. We have been shamed into believing if we stand up for what is right and just WE ARE WRONG OR RACIST OR …….I am amazed at how many of us just sit back and watch as our whole society/culture is pillaged by
those who have nothing vested – I am sickened as I watch my country being handed over to foreign nationals who only wish to plunder and take.
How long did Obama make Seal Team 6 wait when they had Osama in their sights? I remember reading that “He had to sleep on it first” before he could decide, and the rumor is that Panetta made the call because Obama would not or could not after 16 hours, I see a trend here.
He froze twice before allowing ST6 to get Bun Laden. Even then, he was oon the golf course when they went wheels up.
No frozen for almost 4 years now! Get rid of this guy and pray he kills no one else before he leaves office.
That Obama didn’t “freeze” is not an opinion, but a matter of historical fact. He had a gaggle of advisors to counsel him throughout those many hours — and he himself went to bed long before the crisis concluded. The state department DID make a decision — to order all help immediately available to stand down. The only priority of these self-serving adolescents was their own political survival. That makes this treason.
No excuses for the traitor.
Does anyone still harbor the delusion that ovomit is not a koranimal?
Satan’s line was busy and Oba-Oba could not get proper instructions of what to do.
If even parts of what we have been told is true then treason is the correct word. I would think document altering and shredding is in full mode at the “Gray House” these days.
Yer damn right!!
Tell him is time to go. He said we should fire after 4 years if he doesn’t do a good job. Here is his chance to for once be honest
There is a huge difference between doing what is right, correct and principled. These kinds of responses are “automatic”. To do what is “politically correct” takes hours, days weeks of “analysis” to try to figure out what will “spin” well. To paraphrase, when seconds and minutes count, the PC ideologue is only weeks away.
Very well said.
Puts one in mind of Ted Kennedy at Chappaquiddick, doesn’t it? Do the right thing, save the girl from drowning, and torch one’s political career, or leave the girl to her fate and beat feet to go convene with spinmeisters on how to minimize the political fallout?
Must think … must think … nah, not really. Easy call for a Democrat.
FWIW Ted did not knowingly leave Mary Jo Kopechne to die. Ted was not in the car. Another woman, his date, drove the car off the Dike Bridge with MJ asleep, in the back seat. Other woman got out of car in shallow water. She left MV, Ted went back to his hotel via rowboat from Chappy to Edgartown, and found out about MJ death when car was pulled from water. Lies were told by Bobby’s team and Ted thinking it would look better to leave a girl after trying to save her than saying he was unfaithful to Joan.
This story is well known around Boston political and other circles, and has been since I was told the above in October 1979 by a guy who was told the story by Ken O’Donnell, drunk at the Boston Harvard Club.
I believe it was a simple DUI accident, and once the car in the water, I dont think she could have been saved….
But staying there and TRYING, before running to to the first house SCREAMING to get help before RETURNING in a “frantic panic of concern and horror” begging the recuers to ‘Hurry, please God hurry” would have at least been a BELIEVABLE response of a decent person.
Sneaking off to find one of your operatives, then going to the Po-po what, 12-18 hours later?
What a scumbag.
How the Poeple of Assachucitts kept electing that guy, I’ll never know.
If THEY want a scumbag, thats fine. Elect him to a Statewide Office.
Dont make the rest of the country suffer.
Interesting you make the Chappaquiddick reference as that is the first thing I thought about when this all broke. Kennedy got away with negligent homicide and Obama is getting away with the same thing here plus a healthy dose of treason on the side.
When we leave “national security” to the Left, we shall have neither security nor a sovereign nation.
Your few words hit the nail on the head. All please pray we need a leader
a good decision maker….one who does not hold it against us if we make it
without govrnment help.
Mike is right to bring up multiculturalism, and I would add the invention of the moniker “Islamophobia” thanks to the current Ministry of Truth. We are expected to defend American interests while simultaneously claiming that we are internationalists. I wrote about this double bind here: http://clarespark.com/2012/10/27/melville-orwell-doublethink/. Why anyone trusts this government or its lapdog press to tell the truth is beyond my ken.
Want the Irony Of Ironies?
If Obama, instead of listening to Axelrod and Plouff and instinctively lying and covering up, had acted decisively — flown that C-130 gunship in there and rescued our people or at least fought back half as hard as Woods and Doherty did, then had come out with “NOBODY hits us on 9/11!! You terrorists brought a knife, I brought a Spectre!” — Obama would have a stone-cold lock on re-election. His approvals would be through the roof.
Instead, his instincts to do what looks best for his image instead of what’s best for America have, to turn a phrase, sunk his battleship.
Great point. The irony, it burns. The “safe” option was dangerous to him, the “dangerous” option was safe. God must be chuckling.
Alternate theory, Obama was sneaking a smoke, possibly hiding in the Choom Room.
Let’s see what a drug test reveals.
DON’T TRY HIM FOR TREASON. APPOINT HIM AMBASSADOR TO LIBYA.
One can only hope.
It is stunning to me that the kneejerk reaction to Benghazi from the right has been to blame Americans at every turn. It was Clinton’s fault for not anticipating the attack. It was General Dempsey’s fault for preventing a deployment into unknown circumstances. It was Ambassador Stevens fault because he deserved it for his role in sending arms to the Syrian rebels. And, of course, it is the President’s fault because that’s been the refrain of every song for the past 4 years.
Romney blamed the embassy staff for “sympathizing with their attackers” while the attack was still going on[!] and before we knew the ambassador had died!!
Blame America first, and blame her often… Incredibly sad. All it took was a change in CinC’s party for you all to greedily adopt all the worst Bush-era actions of the anti-war left.
Nonsense. blaming the specific individuals who had the responsibility for this is not the same as blaming America.
Clever…blame Clinton, which one Bill or Hillary, doesn’t matter, they’re equally incompetent. Blame Bush, what does he have to do with Benghazi???
Literally NON-SENSE, BY A NON-SENSICAL LIBERAL.
The father of the heroic man who went in and did what he had to do, without regard for his own life, said it plainly, THIS ADMINISTRATION BASICALLY ALLOWED HE AND 3 OTHERS TO BE MURDERED IN COLD BLOOD BY MANIACAL, RADICAL BLOOD THIRSTY MUSLIMS. These are the people Pres. LoudMouth is pandering to.
You aren’t alone SemperFi (well maybe on this site you are). And thank you for your service.
I remember when the right used to love and cherish America, it wasn’t that long ago actually. But over the past few years they have lost their collective minds. Now they don’t miss a chance to tear her down and spit in her face.
Your jedi mind tricks will not work here, you false, pandering, left-leaning liberal. Anybody can put up a purported screen name, but having true backing behind it is what separates the wheat from the chaff. Do not try here to distort reality – the truth sees through it!
Anti-war Left? Reread your history up to and during the 1960s.
I’ve been saying Obozo is a traitor since 2009. Now everyone knows it. Prison time.
a few ex SEALs looked each other in the eyes after receiving the order to stand down and said “fu@$ it! we arent leaving him (stevens) there to die.” those are the ones that died with him. obama let them all die rather than have dead “protesters”/alqaeda or let a potential tragedy he thought he could spin go to waste.
obama and his puppeteers thought :”a few dead americans? perfect way to get the right to say SOMETHING we can spin. lets say anything any conservative, esp romney, says is not their place we can have you talk all presidential and have my friends in the media ask me whats being done and il say ‘no one wants to find out what happened more than me! im offended at any other point of view.’…….
And may I add that obama feels strongly that he must diminish the importance of the Libya “revolt” and his part iin it? When you put this together with all the other middle Eastern and Northern African “situations,” a natural reaction is to ask exactly how far is our president going in overthrowing muslim countries in order to put them in the hands of the brotherhood? Thanks to brave columns like this and otherss by people like McCarthy, Sperry and Emerson, many of us know about the infiltration of our government at the highest levels.
If there was ever a time to be grateful for the new media, this is it. The dinosaur media may just have to be put on trial for treason along with the highest administration officials. This is corruption on a global scale.
Why are we pretending this matters? Impeachment and removal is a two-step process.
So, lets pretend Obama actually gets impeached. That means the house brings charges and votes to impeach with a simple majority.
After that it has to go to the Senate, where removal is discussed. There is no way it will pass. Even if Republicans win every Senate seat available to them in 2014 — a feat that is impossible — there would not be enough votes to remove.
Why waste time?
Just admit, a black guy you don’t like got elected by a huge majority of the Electoral College. You will do anything to tie up the legislature to prevent him from doing anything.
This is just like about a half dozen political thrillers I could name- where the venial and corrupt president cuts off the team and leaves them to die. And then covers it up.
The part the writers always seem to miss is where a partisan media works overtime to make sure the coverup stays intact.
There is little doubt, what went down in Bengazi will pale in comparison to the worst rogues in U.S. history. Benedict Arnold will prove a piker in comparison.
And I have spent the better part of a decade, tracking/conferring with those who keep their ears to the ground, in relation to the real winners in this treasonous drama – the Muslim Brotherhood Mafia and its AlQaeda offshoots. This is NO accident, and it is the main point to be internalized.
It is for the above reason that the unfolding drama, re the Islamist-in-Chief, is hardly a surprise. Such rogue operations are expected, when dealing with a regime in league with the Brotherhood and its surrogates.
In fact, that which is revealed via http://adinakutnicki.com/2012/10/29/updated-bengazigate-bodies-of-lies-layered-beneath-a-regime-gone-rogue-co-opting-some-leaving-others-in-the-dark-addendum-to-bengazigate-leads-straight-back-to-obamas-door-commentary-by/ is just the tip.
When all of the deception shake outs there will be a political earthquake, the likes of which will shock even those who are used to geo-political machinations.
Guaranteed.
Iranian-backed Al Queda attacked Stevens because he was arming Al Queda in Syria? The story makes little sense.
The factions involved are like a bowl of spaghetti – one more reason not to be arming anyone over there. The jihadists are in the midst of a power struggle throughout the area and we were picking sides with weapons supposedly to bring down Syria and thereby weaken Iran. But the game plan falls apart when our man on the scene gets killed. I think the Administration hoped this would just blow over and not reveal the stupidity of its arms dealing. Now the cover-up is worse than the stupidity and the moral cowardice of allowing the group in Benghazi to die reveals an Administration that is despicable. The story makes sense, it is the Administration that doesn’t because at the core, it is morally without foundation, in fact, pathological.
If it was over arms, why attack on 9/11? And why announce who you are?
I still think that theory of a kidnaping of Stevens in exchange for the Blind Sheikh has to be kept in mind. There was still some chatter about a deal for the Blind Sheikh as late as 19 SEP, but I suspect that that was just chatter. There has been nothing on him since then. You might say that Obama was too busy trying to keep a lid on Benghazi. But it is also possible that since the kidnaping was nullified by murder, Obama had no other strategy for getting the Blind Sheikh out of the US and to Egypt. And so the matter has been allowed to drop out of sight.
I do think Obama is an evil, amoral and immoral man, but I also suspect that it is quite possible that he wanted to prevent a military action as long as he thought the kidnaping might have taken place. That is the only logical explanation in my mind. I think he needed some logical reason to keep Hillary and Panetta in line. Whenever I say Obama, I must allow that the decisions were probably not being made by him, but possibly by Valerie Jarrett – and that his moral posture is a mirror image of hers.
All explanations have problems. While watching in real time, he must have realized that the stores of weapons were being looted. That pitches two illegal underhanded schemes against each other: freeing the Blind Sheikh vs arming the MB in Syria. When he saw both schemes fail, he went to bed and then went off on a campaign trip to Las Vegas the next day – leaving it for other people in his administration to worry about the repercussions
Which makes it all seem to me that he wasn’t personally invested in any of this – not in his programs nor in his campaign. He is and has been a front man. He gets up, reads his script, and then retires to his golf game or campaigning or chatting with TV hosts. As he showed in the debates, he doesn’t knows beans about the substance of any of his programs. He moves from one arena to another with no emotional carryover – no awareness of failure, no sense of guilt. The only way any normal person could act that way is if he were indeed just acting, just speaking lines given him.
It is time to investigate who in his administration has actually been calling the shots on the various issues. There are at least three people in the White House with strong MB ties. What input do they have on policy ? There is Valerie Jarrett. Who else ?
Iran is backing the Syrian government, not the rebels, some of whom are with Al Qaeda.
This is why I’m confused. That’s par for the course with the middle east, where authoritative opinions expressed with great force outnumber facts by about 100 to 1.
Fast & Furious makes no sense either but it is true.
It is also true that Congress has done little to nothing to stop it !
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This is why I’m confused. That’s par for the course with the middle east, where authoritative opinions expressed with great force outnumber facts by about 100 to 1.
October 29, 2012 – 9:14 am ….”
I agree, count me among the confused. Everything I (we) can say here is based upon the shorthand notes we took while leaning our hard-backed chairs against the walls in those closed-door meetings….right?….
A good simile posted above nearby compares all of this to a bowl of spaghetti.
We need House Committee Hearings….the Democrat controlled Senate will never permit such needed probing there.
“Iranian-backed Al Queda attacked Stevens because he was arming Al Queda in Syria? The story makes little sense”
Really?
Ever heard the tale of the scorpion?
Stings its host mid stream, even though it may drown too?
“you knew I was a scorpion when you agreed to cross the stream”
Muslims value attacking and humiliating American Infidels more than their own lives.
The chance to do something “big” on 9/11 was too tempting for SOMEBODY, no matter any “agreement” between others to supply arms.
Just knowing some American operatives (or Obama Himself!) is now screaching and fuming “how COULD you! we had a DEAL!” is the most delicious victory for them.
Treachery. Lies. Double crossing.
Even operational fratricide just to score some “Mohammad points”. Muslims will kill and undermine other Muslims to exploit their own personal “warlord street cred”, the “big picture” be damned. They are completely irrational that way, which explains the rampant poverty they all live under.
If it doesnt make sense, it makes sense to me.
Thats how they roll.
“If it doesnt make sense, it makes sense to me.”
Quote of the thread right there. Holy Jehoshephat, look at the lunacy in this thread! Each conspiracy theory wilder than the next, with implausibility feted by the true believers as a feature rather than a bug. Who cares that it doesn’t make sense, that’s why it makes sense!?
You all wonder why these absurd theories aren’t on any respectable news channel? Seriously??
“Guaranteed”?
More likely if Obama wins then Brian Williams, NPR, etc. will portray this as a “controversy” endlessly and any and all who try to pursue the truth in this matter as right-wing zealots, Tea Party fringe groups, partisan sore-losers, and on and on. If Romney wins then John Boehner will declare that we must seek a new level of cooperation with our friends across the aisle and insist that the whole matter must be put behind us. Either way the whole thing dies within two months and lands in the dustbin with Fast and Furious.
Guaranteed.
If Dems hold the Senate and Obama wins, impeachment is out of the question. Partisan hacks like Reid and Dickhead Durbin aren’t going to let the evil right wingers try to overturn the re-election of the first black president for racist reasons or some similar claptrap.
The same thing happened with PardonGate. Bush43 ordered AG Ashcroft to lay-off, and the pardons payola went uninvestigated. There is no way Mitt will allow a little thing like Bengahzigate to cloud his first few weeks in office. And Boehnner already has show an astonishing lack of curiosity concerning the entire matter.
Yep. My thoughts exactly.
Oh come on. Benjamin Arnold actively conspired to lose what is now called West Point to the British, with the conscious purpose of allowing the British to split New England from the rest of the colonies and win the war, and having negotiated said acts (and a position with the British Army) with the enemy. Obama’s outrageous act of appeasement, cowardice and spinelessness was not treason even if one of his motivations was a (mistaken) belief that he was helping his reelection, and the likeliest way Obama could get away with his outrageous act of cowardice and spinelessness is if we go overboard in describing it as “treason.” You have to believe that Obama is a Muslim who wants the jihadists to win for his behavior to be treason, and that’s just not credible, and certainly not demonstrable.
Explain the ring.
Ring? What ring?
If Obaruman is wearing The One Ring to Rule Them All, that would explain a lot…
Thread winner!
Taqqiya strikes again!
In reply to Zorro, below:
My late Father, whose ancestors survived centuries of persecution by these people with their faith and honor completely intact, had a colorful and effective way of explaining taqiyya: “They could dance on your eyeballs and you’d never feel it,” or, my personal favorite, “they could pluck the eyelashes off your face and you wouldn’t even blink.”
I fear we haven’t seen anything yet.
Are you referring to the ring that Obama has worn on his wedding finger since the age of 19 or so. The same ring was replaced on his ring finger by Michelle to be used as his wedding ring. The ring Obama wears on his ring finger has Islamic writing on it stating the first tenets of Islam. We bought the lie hook, line and sinker. This ring has been examined and their are closeups on line showing this writing and proving Obama allegiance to Allah.
We are so gullible are we not. I fear for my children and what will become of theirs
Yes, Donna, you definitely are “so gullible”. I fear for your children as well.
Are you kidding me?? If you can’t see that Ovomit most certainly IS a Muslim in league with his brotherhood (wih absolutely no allegiance to the USA) then you may as well put a gun to your head now. You are already brain dead.
@Mary in LA: Obama has worn a gold ring for over 30 years on which is inscribed in Arabic the Shahada, or Muslim proclamation of Faith: “There is no God but Allah, and Mohammed is his prophet.” It is one of the five pillars of Islam.
He’s a Muslim. Don’t kid yourself. The photos are all over the Internet.
Oh, and he attended a Madrassa in Indonesia. You have to PROVE you’re a Muslim to attend an Islamic school. It ain’t Georgetown.
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“Give me your children before they are seven and they are mine “I thought it was Hitler who said it but I’m not sure. He was raised Muslem and even if he says he’s a Christian this had to be a great influence on his thinking
Zorro please don’t post nonsense and feed the Left Wing moonbats a victory. The truth is bad enough, the USURPER did not go to a MADRASSA (Religious School) Barry Soetero was however registered as a MUSLIM at BOTH the State and Catholic run Multi Faith schools he attended. What is much more important to note is that at the time Barry attended Indonesian State School only Indonesian CITIZENS were allowed to do so.
So the real question apart from the fact that he is obviously STILL a Muslim is as a Indonesian CITIZEN when did he re naturalize as an American and why was he not prevented from running for President because of this clear example of his non NATURAL Born Citizen status. This is probably the REAL reason all his Passport, School and College records are being so carefully HIDDEN.
@ David Pittelli
“Oh come on. Benjamin Arnold actively conspired to lose what is now called West Point to the British, with the conscious purpose of allowing the British to split New England …”
I’m guessing here, just off the top of my head you understand, that ‘Benjamin Arnold’ was Benedict’s evil twin brother?
Touchee. Here I get all up in high dudgeon at a bad historical analogy, and I make an even more basic screwup. I should also reiterate here (I’ve said it elsewhere) that there are many steps of awfulness in a President between “treason” and unacceptable behavior (cowardice, appeasement, not giving a f***) that should get one voted out of office.
Benedict Arnold cannot actually be called a traitor to his country, because America had not actually been formed yet. He was part of the uprising against the Crown, the then legitimate government. Were it not for him, we would already have lost. Then he got shafted by the political types. So, he decided to return to the Crown, and worked out a deal, but was foiled. Then the Crown screwed him, too. He died in poverty.
The thing is, he owed the Revolution no loyalty. He sacrificed everything for his fellow revolutionaries, and they totally screwed him over. If he had just continued with his shipping/trading operations, the Revolution would have failed, and he’d've continued to be a prosperous, happy man.
Obama, on the other hand, is President of a legitimate government and has sworn an oath to same. It is far, far worse than the hapless Mr. Arnold.
The hell it isn’t.
ovomit is a koranimal.
I’m posting my take in more than one place because I think I’ve provided the documentation needed to make what would seem implausible, well…..
Here goes.
The story about Benghazi really begins with the first bombing of the World Trade Center in NYC. The tie in is Khalid Sheik Mohammed aka “The Blind Sheik”. He is the convicted and jailed mastermind of that terrorist attack. CAIR the Council on American Islamic Relations was named an unindicted coconspirator.
In the run up to the attack at Benghazi, rumors had been rife that Obama was working a deal with Egypt to release him to the Muslim Brotherhood which rules Egypt.
The first thing we need to realize is that the Muslim Brotherhood operates in the United States under a variety of names and organizational umbrellas. Technically, there is no “Muslim Brotherhood” in the United States. But the Muslim American Society (MAS), the Islamic Society of North America (ISNA), the Council on American-Islamic Relations (CAIR) and others are – according to a document captured in a raid and released by law enforcement in 2007 during the Holy Land Foundation Hamas funding trial) – Brotherhood-linked organizations. ( Front Page )
In June 2009, Obama appointed a Muslim, Kareem Shora, to the Homeland Security Advisory Council. Shora had been executive director of the American-Arab Anti-Discrimination Committee, a group that had generally opposed anti-terror efforts since 9/11 – as have all the Muslim Brotherhood-linked groups in the U.S. But more worrisome was Obama’s appointment of another Muslim, Arif Alikhan, to be Assistant Secretary for Policy Development at the Department of Homeland Security. Alikhan is affiliated with the Muslim Public Affairs Council (MPAC), which is another highly deceptive Brotherhood-linked group. ( Front Page Pamela Geller )
Another connection is Hillary Clinton’s aide Huma Abedin who was an executive board member of the muslim student association. The Muslim Student Association, or MSA, was identified as a Muslim Brotherhood front group in a 1991 document introduced into evidence during the terror-financing trial of the Texas-based Holy Land Foundation trial. ( WND )
The internal Brotherhood memo said Muslim Brotherhood members “must understand that their work in America is a kind of grand jihad in eliminating and destroying the Western civilization from within and ‘sabotaging’ its miserable house by their hands and by the hands of the believers so that it is eliminated and Allah’s religion is made victorious over all other religions.” ( WND )
Huma’s mother is Saleha Abedin who is a member of Muslim Sisterhood or International Women’s Organization (IWO). The Women Organization’s goal, in accordance with the Muslim Brotherhood rules, is to gain and acquire a unified global perception in every nation in the world regarding the position of women, and the necessity of advocacy work at all levels in accordance with the message of the Brotherhood, as written in Women in Muslim Society, and the rearing of women throughout the different stages of life. ( PJ Media )
There is more, but I believe the point is made, Huma is a full fledged member of the muslim brotherhood. As a reminder, who are they? The Brotherhood’s credo was and is, “Allah is our objective; the Quran is our law, the Prophet is our leader; Jihad is our way; and death for the sake of Allah is the highest of our aspirations.” Its most famous slogan, used worldwide, is “Islam is the solution.” ( Wickipedia )
As to Benghazi…..The muslim brotherhood rules Egypt and has been adamant the US return him to Egypt. I have documented Obama and Hillary’s ties with them. So they decide to honor the request, but how?
A swap of a US ambassador maybe?
We know Obama was required to be notified of the attack immediately by the military. They have standard operating procedures. Obama knew within minutes as demanded by military protocol.
Also we know a drone was overhead and Obama observed at least some of the attack personally. Why was the drone there? Operating these drones consumes massive amounts of bandwidth. They have to be tasked in advance. It is not anything that can be done johnny on the spot. Was it armed? One of the US Seals targeted the terrorists with a laser. If there was no weapon why do that?
We know only two people are authorized to commit forces in this instance. One is the president. The other is the US Army commander for the mideast. That person was Gen Carter F Ham. He has been sacked. Also Rear Adm. Charles M. Gaouette, the commander of the USS John C. Stennis strike group, is being returned to the United States for temporary reassignment. He was the head of the US Navy for the entire mideast.
We know three times the go team in Benghazi was told to stand down. Two US Navy Seals chose to not obey that command. They died.
The ambassador died of smoke inhalation from being holed up within the compound.
We know Obama has made every attempt to portray this as something it was not. It was not a spontaneous demonstration. This was a seven hour attack that was bravely countered until heavier weapons were brought to bear. Heavy weapons are not the means of unorganized rioters.
We have a president and sec’y of state heavily involved with the muslim brotherhood. That brotherhood demands Khalid Sheik Mohammed be returned. We have a president losing an election and in need of a victory.
Instead of a victory lap of negotiating with his allies in Egypt to satisfy everyone’s requirements, we have a dead ambassador and three others.
That is why he had to cover this up.
The media’s corruption in this is beyond belief. ( OK maybe not. We know them for who they are. )
You’ve offered a cogent overview of the Benghazi attack vis-a=vis the Muslim Brotherhood and its role with the Obama Administration. However, I do take exception with one point. I believe the “Blind Sheik” is Omar Abdul Rathman, who is currently being held in North Carolina having been convicted of the 1st World Trade Center bombing. Khalid Sheik Mohammed is still awaiting military trial for his role in the 9/11 attack on the Twin Towers and the Pentagon (as well as Flight 93).
The only logical reason I can find for Ambassador Stevens being left totally unprotected in such an obviously precarious location on such an inauspicious date, ie. the 11th anniversary of 9/11, is that he was being offered up, either as a hostage (in which case the Stevens for Rathman swap applies) or as a peace offering, the proverbial “sacrificial lamb”. Either way, the Obama Administration clearly left Ambassador Stevens and his communications officer (as well as the two brave ex-Seals who tried to come to their rescue) out to dry. Their blood is on Obama’s hands, and no amount of skillful oratory will change that tragic fact.
I would love to help all these Islamist in my country the ability to join “allah” as soon as possible.In the interest of religious freedom in this country I support helping each and every one of these precious souls their right to meet “allah”"inshallah”
It is so strange to see those who have not yet seen or heard any evil over all these recent years,have suddenly figured out that others have been doing this constantly!
In regards to the men in Benghazi painting targets only to never have them fired upon, consider the following:
[Keep in mind, please, the shake-ups among all of the top in command throughout the Middle East and Africa at the moment - but yet with the exception of one none of them are being assailed in the media as to "blame" for not rescuing the men? Awful strange, is it not? Not if Obama et al. were trying to suppress a mutiny over this.]
Original Status Post from Google several days ago:
Ken DeWitt
Gen Ham was fired 30 seconds after deciding to intervene in Benghazi: I heard a story today from someone inside the military that I trust entirely. The story was in reference to General Ham that Panetta referenced in the quote below.
quote:
“(The) basic principle is that you don’t deploy forces into harm’s way without knowing what’s going on; without having some real-time information about what’s taking place,” Panetta told Pentagon reporters. “And as a result of not having that kind of information, the commander who was on the ground in that area, Gen. Ham, Gen. Dempsey and I felt very strongly that we could not put forces at risk in that situation.”
The information I heard today was that General Ham as head of Africom received the same e-mails the White House received requesting help/support as the attack was taking place. General Ham immediately had a rapid response unit ready and communicated to the Pentagon that he had a unit ready.
General Ham then received the order to stand down. His response was to screw it, he was going to help anyhow. Within 30 seconds to a minute after making the move to respond, his second in command apprehended General Ham and told him that he was now relieved of his command.
The story continues that now General Rodiguez would take General Ham’s place as the head of Africon.
I found this story when I got home after hearing this story.
quote:
President Barack Obama will nominate Army Gen. David Rodriguez to succeed Gen. Carter Ham as commander of U.S. Africa Command and Marine Lt. Gen. John Paxton to succeed Gen. Joseph Dunford as assistant commandant of the Marine Corps, Defense Secretary Leon Panetta announced.
As I was typing this I heard John Bolton on Greta say that there are conflicting reports of General Ham’s comments on this tragedy and why a rapid response unit was not deployed. Bolton says someone needs to find out what Ham was saying on 9/11/12.
CORRECTION: Google should have been Facebook in my above comment.
The only way to get this done is a Congressional subpoena for General Hamm to testify within the next 24 hours. However secret certain things may have been, there is now enough out in the public sphere to negate any claims of “national security” or classified activities. Of course, any c-in-c who would do the sorts of things under discussion here would not hesitate to have General Hamm removed from life, as well.
Ham was not removed from command. His successor was named, that’s all. The timing suggests it’s normal rotation.
Do not slander him with guilt from Obama’s failure based on fallacious post hoc “reasoning”.
It was NOT routine rotation for Gen. Ham. He has only been on the job for 18 months and a normal rotation is three years. Besides, commanders aren’t relieved overnight when they come to the end of their term.
Four Americans dead in the Middle East. I have to say, this calls back memories of one of the worst incidents in the Iraq war – Fallujah – in which four Americans were killed and then paraded through the streets.
The difference is that this time it is their fellow Americans parading the bodies of those we lost in the line of duty. Trotting out their names at every opportunity, crudely photoshopping them into lede graphics…
The liberal stooge is back to carry water for Obama. Ask the dead SEAL’s dad who is criminal in this matter and it ain’t Obama’s critics.
I seem to recall that a high up Democratic operative by the name of “Kos”, who hosts the “Daily Kos”, Markas Moulitsas, commented on the dead Americans in Iraq who were dismembered and drug through the streets — “I feel nothing — Screw ‘em!!”
Realize that Moulitsas is extremely prominent and influential in Democrat party politics to the extent that he has hosted “YearlyKos” conventions featuring speakers such as Harry Reid, Barbara Boxer, Wesley Clark, Howard Dean, and Al Gore.”
Also realize that Kos and his Kompadres undoubtedly feel the same about murdered Americans in Libya that the felt about murdered Americans in Iraq.
And if that’s the case. . . .what’s the big bother about sending military forces into something that could embarrass the President and more important, the cause?
Remember those words. . . “Screw ‘em”!!
GT, how silly. This is nothing like Falluja where our soldiers were there for the purpose of being at war. The people who died in Benghazi were ambushed.
It’s more like Black Hawk Down in that soldiers in dire need of backup were denied by a higher chain of command and left to fight their way out by themselves or die. Only this is even worse because, as I pointed out, the people killed on 9/11/12 were not in the middle of a military action. They were ambushed and might have had a chance (at least the SEALs did) if help hadn’t been forbidden.
Clinton was feckless. Obama is criminal.
That you think this is just noise says so much about you and your despicable POV.
GT, how silly. This is nothing like Falluja where our soldiers were there for the purpose of being at war. The people who died in Benghazi were ambushed.
It’s more like Black Hawk Down in that soldiers in dire need of backup were denied by a higher chain of command and left to fight their way out by themselves or die. Only this is even worse because, as I pointed out, the people killed on 9/11/12 were not in the middle of a military action. They were ambushed and might have had a chance (at least the SEALs did) if help hadn’t been forbidden.
Clinton was feckless. Obama is criminal.
That you think this is just noise says so much about you and your despicable POV.
You don’t understand, this is like Fallujah because the corpses of four dead Americans, lost in the line of duty, are being paraded around for partisan (sectarian) gain.
I think it might even hurt a little more this time, because it’s their own countrymen doing the parading. What’s respect for the departed worth? A lot less than the extra clicks that a macabre lede graphic and some ridiculous conspiracies can drive – at least around these parts.
“crudely photoshopping them”
From the Progressive playbook: When something harmful to the cause makes it through the protective media shield, you must issue denials, claim politicization and discredit the sources. If confronted with photographic evidence – claim photoshop.
You think the photoshop at the top of this article isn’t a photoshop? That the giant floating heads of our dead really were floating over the White House in a giant storm cloud?
You’ll fit right in here.
General Tso – Left Wing Moonbat TROLL – your constant postings of STRAWMEN and RED HERRINGS in an attempt to divert the blame from the lying incompetent USURPER and his corrupt Regime are not working. Now back to Mummy’s dungeon or the Liberal talking points agenda sites and try and think something else up. Its just not working for you on here.
The only crowning achievement ..fighting the war on terror ..the only thing
you probably say President Obama’s done well was endangered in the last few
days of his re-election run by a terrorist attack.That’s why the cover up
happened..the results of the Benghazi attack would come after the election.
THE WHOLE MIDDLE EAST KNEW OBAMA WAS TRYING TO HIDE WHAT HAPPENED IN BENGHAZI. FURTHERMORE, THEY KNEW WHY:
1) The cover-up was trying to hide the fact that the war on terror is a failure. The cover-up was also trying to hide the fact that the Arab Spring is a not only another failure, but a failure so big it could turn into a nuclear winter. That is, Syria is very close to becoming a regional war with chemical, biological and, perhaps, even nuclear weapons taking part.
In addition, the cover-up was trying to hide from Americans what the Libyans, the Egyptians, the Turks, the Syrians, the Iranians, the Saudis and the Russians already knew:
That the State Dept in Benghazi is working with the CIA to recruit jihadis in its easter Cyrenaica province to fight in Syria. Ambassador Stevens had two functions: 1) Recruiting; 2) Gun running — supplying the Jihadi/terrorist fighters in Syria with the advanced weaponry Qaddafi had purchased from Russia. Of course, it’s just as likely Stevens was buying these weapons.
Equally as likely, Stevens was supplying the terrorists and al qaeda forces in Cyrenaica with even more advanced weaponry than those supplied by the Russians. If so, where are they?
I don’t think it’s beyond the realm of possibility that some of them could end up here.
So what you are saying is that Ambassador Stevens was the real bad guy here? The guy who died in the attack? Your fellow American?
I don’t know if you were old enough to be there spitting on the Vietnam vets as they came home, but you certainly would have fit right in.
SemperFi –
I’m not saying Amb Stevens is the ‘bad guy here’. Far from it. I’m trying to analyze what happened — and to tell the truth, as I see it.
However, I do believe the WH has lots of ‘splaining’ to do.
I can’t see a refusal to take military action in a neutral country to be treason. This is quite possible; Obama or President Jarrett (is she still there? I lost track.) decided not sacrifice the Americans so as not to antagonize the Libyans, or the “Arab Street”, or to avoid killing innocents (or “innocents”).
No question, though; no Republican would get away with this sort of stonewalling.
You are assuming only one form of support and that is ground support. A Spectre AC130 would have devastated the terrorists and so would have an armed drone attack. Then boots on the ground would have been deployed. This is straight up cowardice if not treason. If Gen. Hamm was replaced as described above then the whole episode will come out eventually.
Then please explain how lying for two weeks, including the President lying to the entire UN assembly. And the lie being that the embassy was mobbed by a video made by a US citizen that was offensive to Allah and no offense to Allah will be permitted. How does this two weeks of deception make the Arab Street feel, since you seem to believe Obama wanted to pacify things.
In my life, whenever an event of tragic nature involving US citizens occurred with government involvement, the President went to the public airwaves as soon as possible and laid out the entire story as best as possible. Or maybe I should say during a Republican administrations. This story hardens my opinion that TWA 800 was a terrorist rocket attack on a US passenger plane that the US government simply covered up. When you watch how blindly the US medial follows the Democrat story you can see how easy it would have been to make that story stick. And all the evidence was in the ocean.
Neutral? Didn’t stop Obama from illegally invading Libya in 2011, when it presented absolutely no threat to American interests, to help overthrow its government, did it? What did you think of that event? Did you find it justified?
Your dog don’t hunt.
Neutral? Neutral my saggy white a$$! Those heroes died under an American flag wondering why help never came. Books and movies will tell the story to our kids if we still have a free press to leave to them.
treason = giving aid & comfort to our enemies in time of war
– Armed attack and entry into our consulate = invasion of US soil = an act of war
– Arms running to an enemy who has promised to destroy us = giving aid
– Ordering that our advanced technology be surrendered to our enemies rather than ordering in forces to preserve and protect our people and equipment = giving aid
– Promising our enemy that we would not let anybody ‘disrespect’ their believes = giving comfort
– Multiple meetings with leaders of organizations at war with the US and hosting them at the White House = giving comfort
– Ordering our security agencies to have people who have sworn to destroy our Constitution review & ok our procedures = conspiracy to commit espionage at best
I don’t consider Benghazi treason as much as I find it the predictable reaction of a sociopath.
Benghazi indicted not just the man, but an entire leftist wing of the Democratic Party as fraudulent, gutless, grossly incompetent, and morally bankrupt. A political philosophy euphemistically called ‘progressive’ that would put power of an election win above principle, even life.
This one is simple to figure out. Obama’s touted foreign policy successes were demonstrated as an egregious lie in seven hours. But if Obama and his lackey media and henchmen can minimize the facts for ten more days, won’t matter to Obama. Just a bump in the road.
There is nothing Obama can do that would warrant being removed from office. Nothing. Bill Clinton proved that.
And the current President amoral enough to think the American public too stupid to remember much after four years. And we in the aggregate certainly have given Obama no reason to fear otherwise, as Bill Clinton is still held as patron saint and national spokesperson for large demographics of this country.
Tex, the predictable action of a sociopath can also be treason. They’re by no means exclusive.
I cede your point. If my post left that impression I was adamantly against the charge of treason, I apologize. That wasn’t my intent of the initial post.
After second thought and the act of betrayal that has followed to not only the four left and then murdered, but the responses toward the immediate families, the obvious coverup, the stonewalling, I think you are right, GDI.
After reviewing the definition of treason, the charge of treason should be added to grossly incompetent, cowardly, and fraudulent.
This is indeed worse than a sheer gutless self-absorption, arrogance and gross incompetence of a CiC.
One may rationalize the abadonment of 4 Americans to diplomatic necessity (immoral yes, illegal no). But, if President Obama was running guns to Al Qaida, well that is a felony. This is what got Adm Poidexter in trouble.
Felony?! Seriously?!
It’s TREASON. And not the kind where people claim all sorts of activity and opinion they disagree with to be “treason”; but REAL, CONSTITUTIONALLY-DEFINED TREASON-TREASON.
There have been very few people in American history guilty of this kind of TREASON — And this one is the President.
There are only a handful of parallels to this TREASON in all of human history.
And the penalty is DEATH!
I am thankful that Roger Simon has the courage to call it what it obviously is. Unlike almost every other “conservative” pundit.
Most are excusing TREASON as incompetence, ideology, or Islamic sympathy; focussing on conjectured motives while ignoring the multiple treasonous ACTS. And all because they’re lost in a fantasy land of normalcy where politics trumps reality …. and because they are congenital eunuchs.
All too true. There seems to be a natural human instinct to try to make sense of even the most irrational behavior. Thus, many conservative pundents have ended up excusing Obama rather than condemning him. The same instinct has been visible in the several books and movies that try to explain Obama’s behavior in terms of anti-colonialism or whatever. He’s just pure evil. That’s all anybody needs to know.
It really doesn’t matter what Stevens’ mission was that day. The ONLY thing that matters is that Obama watched our people die and refused to send help because he was afraid a failed rescue mission would hurt his political prospects.
That is all this is about.
Of course, it’s in the memory hole. Like Fast and Furious. Like Clinton’s rape of Juanita Broadrick.
Only Republicans can have scandals. And THAT is the true treason.
Honestly the man caught on a hot mic telling Medvedev he would have more flexibility after the election IS a moral monster.
It comes, I believe, from his lifetime determination to force Marxist beliefs on a free society. So that everyone but the politically connected is stuck in the gutter together.
This is what happens in politics and journalism and education where you give out degrees and attitudes and transformed values but little knowledge. You simply do not see the likely consequences of your actions or inactions. Moreover, after a time, you become too coddled and self-righteous to care.
But it is not just Obama with the disease although he does have a roaring case of it.
Here is the lesson of Benghazi in a nutshell.
Barack Obama sacrificed 4 American lives to further his own political gain.
They were Americans who worked to support his government.
He would do the same to any of you, regardless of your ideology or ethnicity.
In 1986 the Reagan administration was pilloried by the press and congress in the Iran-Contra affair. In Iran-Contra Ollie North sold outdated Hawk missiles to Iraq, which was fighting Iran at the time, and using the proceeds to fun the anti-communist Nicaraguan Contras. In short we were selling equipment that was to be scrapped at an inflated price to a group of vile rag-head so they could kill a group of even more vile rag-heads and use the profit to fund a group of freedom fighters who were killing an even more vile group of communists in this hemisphere at no expense to the American taxpayer. Now that makes sense to me. But now the shoe is on the other foot. The MSM or should I say the propaganda arm of the DNC can see no wrong “Move along nothing to see”. One big difference…the Gipper would never have let an American console die without a fight as our current “Empty Chair” did.
Did you forget marines in Lebanon? Aside from the fact that the mission was stupid, he promised retribution after massacre, but when an opportunity arise he let it slip by. For some lofty reason, no doubt.
The American people have an administration that cannot understand and cannot fight the enemy which we face. They are literally “space cadets” and fools, and simply can’t function in the capacity in which we have trusted them … and this is what happens as a result. How can anybody deny that the MB have not only been invited into the WH, but are actively advising our president? This is a collaborative effort, and THAT’s the treason in it all. The FACT that Huma Abedin is in our State Department is treasonous; and the other MB operatives? Islam is on the march and we’ve got to stop it … it’s that simple; asd simple as declaring Islam an enemy of the Constitution and an active enemy of the U.S.A.
ENOUGH IS ENOUGH!!!!
You are dead wrong.
They are not merely fools. They are not merely unqualified.
They are evil.
Stupidity isn’t treason. Living in la-la land where everyone is basically good and we just have to talk things out and have a group hug and everything will be just wonderful is not treason.
Everything this administration does, especially in foreign policy, is premeditated action against the interests of the United States, because they follow the Marxist world view and are doing their part to destroy America.
Talking about their foolishness or stupidity is foolish and stupid.
You can cure ignorance, but stupidity is a terminal disease.
And yet, Clinton, Panetta and Petraeus are silent. Could it be simple stupidity? or disengagement? or indecision at a critical moment? Treason has to do with Obama’s motivations and these we cannot know. Others in a position to know have all chosen not to resign and denounce Obama’s actions. Are all three of them co-conspirators?
And yet, this administration remains so confident that the growing outrage over Benghazi will not affect next week’s election. That is scary!
The Benghazi escapade is a manifestation of an naive, feckless, timorous foreign policy culminating in seven hours of astounding incompetence at the top. The cover-up will undoubtedly prove to be criminal (and – God forbid, in the event of a second Obama term – impeachable at least in theory). But treason?
Reel it in, Roger.
There is no evidence the White House actually directly armed terrorists. And even if they did, the terrorists you refer to were not in the process of fighting Americans directly (in fact, they were fighting Assad, who, in addition to being a monster, is a geo-strategic enemy). We armed violent jihadists in Afghanistan fighting the Soviets if you recall. Reagan dealt with the Iranians. And so on. It may be moronic as all get out, but it isn’t treason.
Keep it real; it’s bad enough.
Keep your head firmly in that sand. I’m sure it’s very comfortable there.
“There is no evidence the White House actually directly armed terrorists.”
Other than all those corpses in Mexico?
While Hillary was pursuing the UN small arms treaty, her State Department was allowing one of the drug cartels to purchase military weapons from the US.
I disagree. A quick search for “Obama foreign policy 2008″ brought up
http://prospect.org/article/obama-doctrine and http://usforeignpolicy.about.com/od/2008presidentialrace/a/obamafull.htm
among the top entries.
Now, has his conduct in office been consistent with that?
Talking to Iran? check
Rapprochement with Muslim Brotherhood? check
Increased deference to Russian desires? check
Participation in UN “human rights” agenda despite demonization of Israel? check
Pursuit of al Qaeda as if it were THE enemy and not just one of many enemies? check
Alliance with jihadi groups against the North African and Middle Eastern status quo? check
In other words, Obama is pretty much carrying out the foreign policy he articulated before the election. If FDR had had a drone sending back video from Normandy in June 1944, would he have been a traitor not to call off the invasion?
It has been said that the US chose the wrong horse in China, supporting Chiang Kai-Shek over Mao and failing to support Ho Chi Minh when we had a chance, and IIUC among Obama’s advisors — and certainly in the academic milieus that he was educated in. In Libya, as in so much else, we are now seeing the fruits of the Left’s long march through our institutions.
I’m not backing Obama and I thought his policies were odious four years ago, but he was elected then and nearly half of the electorate still supports him.
Our soldiers — and diplomats — are dying to support our President’s foreign policy. The only thing is, nobody has yet told our soldiers that they’re not fighting to win anymore, or that “winning” has been redefined.
“If FDR had had a drone sending back video from Normandy in June 1944, would he have been a traitor not to call off the invasion?”
Apples and oranges, I’m afraid. Technology of the time made the thousands of boots on the beach the best, indeed only, alternative at the time. Had FDR had drone capability, he would also have had all the other modern weaponry of today, and it is very unlikely we would have had thousands of men there as the first assault; we would have plowed the roads from the air in remote locations, being able to see by infrared where any jerry was dug in.
The fact that Obama had this capability, and used it against our guys, which is the way the facts are shaping up, does, in fact, make him the worst sort of traitor. Benedict Arnold gets a bad rap; Aaron Burr, former veep and king wannabe, comes much closer to the mark.
Not apples and oranges. Sending Americans to die, or watching them die undefended does not constitute treason in the executive. It constitutes being Commander in Chief. FDR understood — correctly — that many men would die at Normandy and after. I don’t think watching it happen would have, or should have, deterred him.
The trouble this country is in is not Obama. He is a symptom. The trouble is that, having articulated his agenda, he was elected in the first place and that, knowing his record, nearly half the electorate thinks that on balance he should be returned to office.
I think the difference is that soldiers are expected to die in combat while ambassadors and their staff are not. Enormous difference between a soldier at Normandy and an ambassador at Benghazi. Dead ambassador represents an enormous diplomatic, logistical, and military failure.
Unless, as some readings of the evidence suggest, the ambassador — who prior to his promotion had been hanging out close to the edge with Libyan insurgents — may have been engaged in some sort of secret action. Some have suggested it was negotiations to recover weapons now in the hands of those the US doesn’t want to have them, others that it was to supply weapons to those we’d rather not have anybody know we helped; others have even suggested it was a drama that went wrong: have the ambassador kidnapped; conduct dramatic negotiations, recover him a few days before the election. In the last screenplay, Tyrone Woods and Glen Doherty screwed things up by riding to the sound of the guns and fighting so ably and so bravely.
In any case, by this group of explanations, the National Command Authority decided that whatever the project underway, better a couple of men die than have it exposed. Given the doctrine “mission over personnel” there is a twisted justification that our twisted President seems to have used.
Again, the problem might not be the President’s actions, which can be viewed as similar to things every president has done. It’s the agenda behind it.
Re. “…we are now seeing the fruits of the Left’s long march through our institutions.”
This makes (at least) 2 of us seeing this as their many-generational strategy. Another angle is that old soviets strategy of ideological infiltration of school systems paid off beyond their wildest dreams even after they themself collapsed.
Given that I doubt the occasional repubs. victory will means much simply for the fact that contemporary politicians on both sides are the product of the same educational system.
Wouldn’t it be nice if the one critical “bump in the road” turned out to be little Barry?
I wonder if they get to choose between bullets, a noose, or a needle. Or even being a speedbump – repeatedly.
“It is undoubtedly worse than Obama simply turned his back on cornered American citizens in a foreign land, knowing undoubtedly they would die. But that Barack did so without any compelling reason—except political—is beyond evil. Only a moral monster would have made that decision when it was within his powers to possibly save them with almost no effort of his own.”
Once again I agree with our neighbors to the north and applaud their courage in speaking out. Obama let them die.
Um, although the site is Canadian, the article author is pure american…info at the very bottom of the page.
You are correct, thank you. Serves me right for not reading through to the very end.
I don’t often say anything positive about our excuse for a president, but as someone who has studied Benedict Arnold I can say: Obama is no Benedict Arnold. That said, however, if Obama does steal the election, then HR 1 of the new congress should be “A Bill For The Impeachment Of Barack Hussein Obama.” And if he does not, then the first task of the new Attorney General should be criminal prosecution, with the objective of putting Obama in federal prison for the remainder of his unhappy and ignoble life. Assign him a number and may his name be obliterated.
May have not been a “political reason” this has been circulating on the net;
“What we know;
1, Sources put Obama in the situation room at the time of the attack.
2, The Embassy was refused requested beefed up security well before the attack.
3, The two Navy seals that tried to help the Ambassador were told repeatedly to stand down when they called for help.
4, Three such calls for help were made, denied, and a stand down was ordered was given from the CIA chain of command, Obama being the top of that chain.
5, It appears a General, General Ham was going disobey that order and was immediately relieved of command and promptly replaced by Obama. While near simultaneously, Rear Adm. Charles M. Gaouette who was commanding an aircraft carrier strike group while it is deployed to the Middle East whom is speculated to also have attempted to disobey the stand down order was also relieved of command.
Looks like a great deal of effort was made to leave the Ambassador helpless
6, The filmmaker was quickly and conveniently put on ice, and later revealed that he was a Fed snitch with terrorist ties. (some now believe he is a CIA asset, was arrested to avoid being questioned, and the video was really a CIA production.)
7, An AP report says that the terrorists got there an hour before the attack, and rounded up locals to have them chant about the video… So it seems they staged it to at least try to make it seem like a spontaneous protest. Which begs the question how did the militants know to use the video as fuel for the diversion mob let alone bother with a diversion?
8, There has been evidence that shows the Ambassador was engaged in gun running weapons from Libya to Syria under the direction of the Obama Administration.
Now the speculation is; the Ambassador was about to turn whistleblower, that he did not like the type of weapons and quantity of weapons being dispersed nor whom they were being dispersed too and had complied evidence of it. So what transpired in Benghazi was not a protest over a video, or an AQ terrorist attack it was more likely a hit ordered by Obama & Co to destroy that evidence and silence the Ambassador which subsequently spun out of control.
If true Obama should not worry about an impeachment trial, no, he should worry about a murder trial.”
Neither Ham nor Gaouette were involved. Please apply a minimum amount of thought before copy-and-pasting BS.
Gaouette, for example, was nowhere near the area — which wasn’t his area of operations in any case. Ham has not been removed; they’ve simply named his successor on the normal timeline for replacing theater commanders.
According to Joint doctrine, “the tour length for combatant commanders and Defense agency directors is three years.” General Ham had only been in the position for a year and a half. So it is a wee bit soon for a routine rotation though I have no doubt that wil be the excuse given.
Also is has been suggested that the drones (plural) there were two, used to observe the attack were flown under Rear Adm. Charles M. Gaouette’s command.
Keep drinking the Kool Aid, Bob.
Ham wasn’t “nothing to do with the decision,” he was in direct line of command between the White House and the men on the ground in Benghazi. And “normal rotations” don’t take place eighteen months early at 30 seconds notice.
Yes, the Admiral was some distance away, but his planes were well within striking reach of Benghazi. That’s why we have carrier strike groups, to dominate a huge area and strike from a distance.
For two senior officers from two different services to be relieved in this way is more than coincidence. This makes the Iran Contra affair look like child’s play and cements my long-held thoughts that the current occupier of the White House is evil.
The SecDef explicitly named Ham as part of the decision to launch a relief effort (or not, as the case turned out). So I’m not convinced you have your finger on the pulse of who’s who in the zoo.
For the Admiral… I’ve not read elsewhere what his role was. But the timing is curious. Lack of information breeds opportunity to fill in the blanks… so speculation that it had nothing to do with Benghazi, despite the timing, could be easily dispelled with a credible explanation. Of course with the passage of time, “credible” becomes more and more difficult to obtain.
To me, the sight of Barack O’Traitor being led out of the White House in hand cuffs approaches seeing Roger Maris, on the last day of the season, approach home plate, having just hit his 61th home run.
At this point, I can safely say there were three avatars of liberalism who died in Benghazi:
1. Chris Stevens, the international gay who-like so many other gays-loves the Middle East for its easy access to young men and de facto tolerance for male-on-male rape. (Put that link in your forever file, because the comments are absolute gold.
2. Sean Smith, a liberal SomethingAwful moderator and quintessential beta male who spent the greatest part of his ‘deployed’ time playing internet spaceships.
3. Glen Doherty, the most outwardly soldierly of the group but also probably the one most responsible for the lack of damn-the-orders-we’re-saving-those-guys people able to protect him. Served as an informer and rooter-out of “religious extremism” (i.e., anyone too anti-Islam for atheist tastes) for the Military Freedom From Religion Foundation.
4. Tyrone Woods, who by all accounts so far was none of these, who was the first on the scene, the first to save his comrades, the first to single-handedly rally whatever useful troops existed and the first to utilize them effectively.
1,2, and 3 were all heavily invested in the transnational progressivist paradigm, and while their deaths were still acts of terrorist atrocity that we’re responsible for accounting for due to the fact that they’re Americans, it’s really hard to argue that they didn’t contribute to a pattern of strengthening their enemies and weakening their friends in their previous daily life decisions.
It’s Mr. Woods’ death that really makes me mad, and I’m not surprised to see that his father is the one leading the demand for answers.
Your comment is that of a contemptible bigot and fool.
All FOUR deceased are heroes, whose deaths were tragic and avoidable had Obama not overruled the repeated calls to increase security (to something appropriate for the destabilized mess he gestated in Libya), and not overruled a rescue mission that undoubtedly would have succeeded with a gun-ship, armed drones, and special forces at the ready (who are specifically trained to go in without perfect information yet overcome).
Your ordering of the deaths of these brave souls, cruelly sacrificed on the altar of Obama’s re-election, by your suppositions as to their politics, work and/or sexual orientations is simply shameful.
Ansar al Shariah and the February 17th Brigade are offshoots/affiliates of the Muslim Brotherhood. Just like Al Qaeda. Repeat: Al Qaeda is an offshoot of the Muslim Brotherhood, the mother ship if you will. This needs repeating as too many beat about the damn bush. The rest is history. We may need to reassess how we vet and elect people to higher office. History will judge some of us for our very poor judgment and exonerate those unfairly labeled “controversial,” “racist,” etc.
And beneath the Muslim Brotherhood is the corrupted fountain that spewed forth all of them.
Can we, as a nation, wrap our minds around the death penalty for those found aiding and abetting the enemy?
We have lost something that previous generations had, as recently as the execution of the Rosenbergs. I think we need to reach deep within and find that seriousness again, or we won’t last as a nation much longer.
There were few people intentionally passed over who were much guiltier than Rosenbergs
Neville Chamberlain would spit on Barack Obama.
Best synthesis of the situation.
Thank you.
Thank you. I wasn’t sure anyone would get it.
A case can be made that Chamberlain was just as disconnected from reality as Obama. But whereas Obama is ideological (at best), Chamberlain was idealistic.
He was a social reformer who saw war in general as a financial drain on national resources — as well as having been shaped by the horror of news from the trenches. He was passionate about improving the lives of the working class.
Appeasement was colossally stupid, but to Chamberlain it was a (sanctimoniously rationalized) tactic to enable his social programs to continue.
IMHO, both he and predecessor Baldwin would have seen straight through our self-absorbed little twerp.
The one person on the Allied side most-responsible for permitting the Second World War is undoubtedly sitting up in his grave, staring across the pond at the White House, saying: “You do not know honor.”
/a mortal insult
“I DO NOT APPRECIATE COWARDICE, AND I DO NOT APPRECIATE LIES”: FATHER OF FORMER NAVY SEAL KILLED IN LIBYA ATTACK REACTS TO LEARNING HIS SON DISOBEYED ORDERS TO SAVE FELLOW AMERICANS. On yesterday’s America Live, father of former Navy SEAL Tyrone Woods – who was killed in the attack on the U.S. Consulate in Libya – talked with Megyn Kelly about the current administration’s handling of the situation. Today, Woods returned to the program to react to breaking news … READ MORE:http://bwcentral.org/2012/10/i-do-not-appreciate-cowardice-and-i-do-not-appreciate-lies-father-of-former-navy-seal-killed-in-libya-attack-reacts-to-learning-his-son-disobeyed-orders-to-save-fellow-americans/
“Moral monster.” Precisely. I’ve been saying here and elsewhere for some time thata Obama is a psychopath, a condition originally known as “moral insanity.” The condition is also known as sociopathy, or by the new-speak term “anti social personality disorder.”
The primary trait is a lack of a conscience, and therefore an inability to feel remorse. Without an inner moral anchor, the psychopath is capable of doing absolutely anything he believes is in his personal best interest. However, the psychopath’s inability to acurately gauge risks and consequences often leads to his downfall. Perhaps that is happening.
Here is the Hare Psychopath Checklist:
• glib and superficial charm
• grandiose (exaggeratedly high) estimation of self
• need for stimulation
• pathological lying
• cunning and manipulativeness
• lack of remorse or guilt
• shallow affect (superficial emotional responsiveness)
• callousness and lack of empathy
• parasitic lifestyle
• poor behavioral controls
• sexual promiscuity
• early behavior problems
• lack of realistic long-term goals
• impulsivity
• irresponsibility
• failure to accept responsibility for own actions
• many short-term [romantic] relationships
• juvenile delinquency
• revocation of conditional release [Not relevant in Obama's case, never incarcerated to our knowledge]
• criminal versatility
Anyone familiair with Obama’s record can easily find multiple examples for each trait, more than enough to diagnose Obama as a psychopathic.
Experts in the field tell us there are many psychopaths among us, perhaps 1 to 4% of the population, and that they are disproportionally drawn to corporate, governmental or other organizations where they can manipulate their way to power. Very few are ever incarcerated. The experts also tell us that in most cases, by the time victims begin to get a glimmer of what is truely happening to them, it is far too late to take action or fight back.
Perhaps in this case we’ll get lucky. The Benghazi debacle is becoming more difficult to spin, hide or cover up. Carry on Mr. Simon, and keep beating the drum.
For the record, I’ve believe Obama is treasonous for some time. My hope is that as a matter of law and after due process he will be executed. Many of his minions are co-conspiritors to treason and should swing alongside him.
Any psychiatrist or even an educated layman could properly diagnose Mr. Obama’s psychopathy. Getting rid of a psychopath is a different matter. Lies that arouse empathy are the psychopath’s stock and trade. Looking the public in the eye and lying is so easy that normal people fail miserably in detecting and properly reacting to such a derangement. We so want to believe. Even as we circle round the drain on the way into the sewer, we reach out expecting to be kept safe.
Think of the psychopath as being like a skilled cabinet maker who forms humans into the proper forms and shapes to serve his immediate interests.
Sadly, unless fox News can get somebody that was there (operator, Spectre crewmember, WH staff member) on camera stating what happened, or didn’t happen as it were, then only Mitt Romney can bring this issue to the forefront of American consciousness; I do not believe he has the guts to do it. Romney will play it safe, win the election, and then let it go away.
My heart breaks for those we lost, and for justice denied, again.
Mitt’s refusal to step up and demand justice will most likely cost him at the polls.
You mean the way he stepped up about “Fast and Furious” and the Black Panther’s voter intimidation? Milquetoast Mitt, what a joke.
I’ll tell you a better joke: America’s first black president (mostly) will be the first democrat since LBJ to carry the lowest percentage of the black vote in a presidential election. How funny is that? Hahahaha
Suppose the real truth is worse than the red herrings we are all discussing here. Suppose some of the Consulate personal were kidnapped and Obama was able to negotiate their release before the election. What a wonderful October suprize. Why else would he order the military to stand down and ignore three requests for help on the ground at the consulate? What about denying requests for extra security for months leading up to the event. Seems like they wanted the Consulate exposed. And how did they dig up a video that only 17 people had viewed prior to 9/11, so quickly if it wasn’t already part of the “plan”. Looks like they didn’t plan on the heroism of a few good American Soldiers willing to risk their lives defending our People and our Country.
I have read elsewhere that the video was actually produced by the State department through many, many degrees of separation. Found it on YouTube of all places.
Canada Free Press had an article on that, just days after the attack. Dunno if it’s still up –the weakness was in the unidentified sources in the chain. Of course, if it is true, those cut-outs would be part of it.
The theory that Obama and Stephens were actively supplying jihadists with weapons from Benghazi makes this whole thing seem more plausible. If it had only been a band of jihadists attacking an American outpost on the anniversary of 9/11 Obama would probably have ordered an attack. But if the only reason that Stephens was there, remember ALL other foreign representatives had left many weeks before, was to be a supplier of arms to the terrorists and the “Freedom fighters” in Syria then the thot plickens. Obama could not allow a large number of military personnel to inspect the area at the Consulate because questions would have been asked and answers would have to be supplied. This looks like a CYA incident and a terrible result. My God, how can journalists keep their heads up with this disgrace hanging over them?
There is a preplanned feeling to the atrocity.
Decreased security at the Benghazi site.
Luring of the ambassador to the location on 9/11.
A Cairo embassy twitter response to the uprising there, that blamed an unknown Youtube video(to introduce the excuse for violence, while blaming America).
The Cairo uprising fanatics all looked like they had professionally printed signs.
A planned meeting with the Sec. Defense as the plot unfolded.
Mel – I agree…this whole episode has my BS alarm going off like a Geiger counter at Chernobyl. Anniversary of 9/11 coming up, multiple counter-terror/spec ops units in the area, but security is actually DECREASED even after multiple requests from the ambassador himself, and then when the scat hits the fan not only is NOTHING is done to help them, but assets on site are ordered to STAND DOWN…now here is where I get ‘chicken skin’ when this thought enters my not inexperienced mind – Obama knew it was coming. He knew the attack was coming. That is the only answer that explains both the decreased security AND the failure to act when hostilities commenced. He knew it was coming and didn’t want the bad guys to get hurt. Now the $1,000,000 question is – who was he planning with? HUMA and the MOOSLIM BRUTHAHOOD.
My heart breaks for those we lost and for what this means for our nation; the enemy within.
And Egyptian riots stopped cold after O. called Morsi (sp). With such “magic” why didn’t he “called” earlier?
http://www.bing.com/search?q=the+taliban+are+inside+the+building&qs=n&form=QBRE&pq=the+taliban+are+inside+the+building&sc=0-0&sp=-1&sk=
“The Taliban are inside the building”
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…and this, from August 2011.
(excerpt)
The bloody months of fighting — and NATO attacks — has left much of the country’s ammunition storage areas unsecured and open to looting, the Obama administration said in a notification to Congress to May; it announced at that time it was obligating $1.5 million to collect, destroy, and reestablish control of Libyan surface-to-air missiles, small arms, and light weapons. “It is critically important not only to [protect] the Libyan population, but to counter the threat of proliferation into neighboring regions that work begin immediately to collect, control, and destroy conventional weapons and munitions, and reestablish security at these storage sites,” the notification said, according to a report by the Congressional Research Service. “Terrorist groups are exploiting this opportunity, and the situation grows more dangerous with each passing day, a situation that directly impacts U.S. national security.”
(close excerpt)
Notice the thundering rhetoric vs the Dinner-with-Beyonce funding? CYA in the usual way, with the ”see how serious we are?” rhetoric, while funding from petty cash –the stakes and the task almost infinitely mismatched?
But the big question is –why jump off that bridge, in that time and place, with that sort of liability overhang, in the first place?
What was the major challenge that bade us create this huge problem with the unsecured arms in the first place?
I mean, 20,000 shoulder-fired heat-seeking anti-aircraft missiles –that you can hide under an overcoat? And we blunder in on an elective emergency mission –by executive order, natch, to suddenly depose a guy we were heavily commercially trading with, and whose kids were attending school in London and dazzling the night life in the society pages?
And we accidently lose control of twenty-freaking-thousand surface to air missiles? Is someone trying to shut down commercial aviation in the western world?
Yes, Roger, keep the eye on the weapons – what Stevens role there is the key. To be sure, this “is “Fast & Furious” scandal on a global scale with extraordinary geopolitical implications.” The arming of groups actively at war with the US or seeking to undermine the country (as in drug cartels) defines a pattern of treason. Interview Gen Ham in front of the Intelligence Committee to start.
Obama has violated his Oath of Office, he won’t follow current laws (MOMA, WARN), creating laws and regulations that Congress declines via his Executive Orders. What about that is NOT treason? Our officials swear allegiance to the Constitution, something that Obama did with his fingers crossed behind his back.
Our Mullah in Chief should receive the proper sentence; Stoning. He would probably consider it an honor. And there would be another National Holiday to boot!
“And the beat goes on” from Sonny and Cher seems appropos to the moment when one considers the simple fact that the only place where this story still has feet is on the internet and Fox. On the MSM outlets, I can hear the crickets when it is mentioned. Obama refuses to answer questions and the cult followers willing to throw themselves under the Obama bus and take a hit for the least qualified individual to ever occupy the White House line up to take their turn.
Once the election is over and if Romney wins, Benghazi will go away for a short while and return but this time, Romney will be held responsible. That is the way of our media of today. If Obama wins, it will die on the vine and we will never see justice. He simply has too much cover to ever be truly held accountable for his role in the cover-up and gross negligence in handling the deaths of four Americans.
There are too many similarities to Benghazi and Fast and Furious to allow either one to come to full fruition in the sunshine of the truth. It would reveal the true nature of the duplicity of Democrats, liberals, and the media in allowing the bastardization of our Constitution and country to be raped, pillaged, and left bleeding in the street by this administration.
If this country is subjected to another four years of incompetent leadership from behind, 2016 may be too late to right the ship.
There is a good chance that Obama might be reelected.If he is,I will be impossible to impeach him!Anyway we are watching with great amusement,this never ending saga.
Here’s a suggestion for a Romney ad. A split-screen, with one panel headlined Osama and showing that famous photo-shopped pic of the Situation Room with Obama sitting hunched up in a corner. The other panel, head-lined Benghazi, shows an empty chair.
I hope some conservative director has the guts to make a movie out of this one, a factual movie.
“Just what was Ambassador Stevens doing in Benghazi that day? Why had he left the Libyan capital to meet with the Turkish ambassador on the anniversary of September 11?”
Just to be safe, I googled where the Turkish embassy for Libya is. It’s in Tripoli, same city where the American embassy is. Usually ambassadors can be found in or nearby their embassy. So why would the American and Turkish ambassadors need to meet in Benghazi, hundreds of miles away from their embassies, in an area where even the Red Cross and the British have bugged out, declaring that it is too dangerous?
And then you ignore all calls not for better than normal security, but simply standard security.
And then you immediately blame the resulting, all too foreseeable disaster on a youtube video of uncertain provenance that no one had seen.
ISTR they were meeting to discuss some sort of charity project in Benghazi.
While I like the idea of trying Obama for treason on the grounds that for 4 years he gave aid and comfort to our enemies, I think it would be very hard to prove in court and, from a tactically politcal point of view, it would be suicide for Republicans and the conservative movement.
Pick your battles, Roger. It would be stupid to make an assault without confidence that you could win without unacceptable loses to the good guys.
Impeachment and removal from office occur outside of the courtroom. The evidence may be scant enough to keep him out of prison, but the politics of him leaving four Americans, including an ambassador, to die while holding the cavalry back should kick him out of the Oval Office. Right now, I’ll take a President Biden.
The Benghazi episode in conjunction with the entire Obama’s ME policies affirms his anti western pro Islamism worldview. The left always accused The Bushes for being in the pocket of The Saudis. How about Hussein O being in bed with the Islamist? He may be born in Hawaii, but he is not an American by virtue of his upbringing outside of The USA . He certainly feels much differently toward Islamic world than he feels toward his country and its Jude-Christian values that gave him all the privileges he enjoys. In 2008 When some of us who tried to warn the incoming danger, we have called racist and any other ugly name imaginable . I hope The American people have learned something about themselves during the last four years, and they will remember Benghazi in Nov 6. The is no need for Impeachment or treason trial, let’s get him out of office and if its possible out of this country.
Impeachment will never happen, regardless if it is proven to be an appropriate course of action. I would prefer he loose his “benefits” when he is put out to pasture. Possibly even be forced to repay his salary because of non performance of his job and banned from ever holding a public office again. He can always move to the middle east and work for his muslim “brothers” in some capacity.
The Obamas and the Clintons will watch you and your children die without batting an eye. They are as cruel and cold as the grave. For her complicity and her crime in this Benghazi debacle, Hillary should be ridden thru Times Square in an oxcart like Marie Antoinette and hung publicly at high noon. Beheading is too honorable a death for the likes of Hillary Clinton.
There were two orchestrated Islamic attacks underway on September 11th.
The first attack was the physical assault on our consulate, designed to seize weaponry for the global Islamic jihad, to humiliate the infidel “invaders,” and, perhaps, to seize hostages for use in prisoner swaps. The second Islamic attack was the wave of noisy and violent demonstrations across the Middle East, designed to silence critics of Islam in the United States and the West in general.
Aside from his studied dereliction on the Benghazi fight, much discussed above, the fact that Mr. Obama, along with his ambitious Secretary of State, actually joined the enemy to 1) attack an American citizen by, among other things, defaming the man’s work via a global media blitz and by having the man dragged from his suburban home at gunpoint in the middle of the night), and 2) attack the First Amendment of the Constitution in order to stifle effective popular resistance against the Islamic Grand Jihad, is high treason all by itself (Obama’s predictable weasel words notwithstanding).
Does anyone but me find it extremely convenient that the drone was overhead almost from the very start? That would mean it was deployed from Italy – the only place possible – at least 2-3 hours earlier, which would give some indication of foreknowledge. And then it gets there, and does nothing except watch? With days and weeks of pleading for increased security without success, a Marine security force removed in advance, and a drone magically appears as soon as an attack starts, with a meme issued at that point about some bs video as the cause of it all? Does anyone else find it convenient that this coordinated event just happened to occur when Stevens was there?
Something is rotten in Denmark, as they say. In this case, Benghazi.
Call me a cynic, but if we had intel of an impending attack by militants/terrorists which we intended to repel, security at our facilities would have been stepped up, and/or the Ambassador and other personnel would have known about it and would have been miles away, instead of having meetings.
This whole dam*ned thing reeks of Black Ops and plausible deniability. To me, this looks like a manufactured, and all-too-real event, complete with convenient footage for posterity or propaganda release to Hollywood moguls, for 1) removal of an inconvenient diplomat whose usefulness in and knowledge of a gun-running operation rendering aid and comfort to America’s enemies in time of war had come to an end; 2) furtherance of an agenda to justify invasion of Syria (whose government we were actively working to destabilize via item 1 above); 3) scoring of political points in the administration’s foreign policy credentials to sway an election; 4) furtherance of a UN/Obama/Clinton agenda to silence all criticism of Islam and abrogate the First Amendment.
And I don’t think Obama cooked this up on his own. He had a lot of help, and Smirky Joe was right there in the thick of it, along with all the other trash in the White House including the First Hoe’r (reference to gardening, of course).
That it didn’t work is SOLELY because a CNN reporter found Stevens’ journal, and because his words led to questions, and questions to facts, and facts to the damning evidence of a traitorous coward in the Oval Office, we are now at a point where, if we have sufficiently removed our blinders, have gotten past our complacency, are willing to admit that Barack Obama is forsworn in his oath to defend the Constitution and deserves removal from office, we have it in our power to vote him, Biden, Clinton, Panetta, Petraeus, Holder, Napolitano, and Reid out of office, and they can take that traitorous b!tch Jarrett and the rest of the Chicago gang of Islamophile thugs with them, to await prosecution on charges of high treason
Drones wouldn’t have to fly from Italy; they could be launched from ships in the Med.
I want to know what happened to the survivors that the CIA operatives rescued from the Consulate. Where are they? Who are they? What do they know about the sequence of events and what did they see and hear? Why haven’t they been identified and begun to tell their story?
These are the most important questions.
Yes–have been wondering the same. Surely with all involved up and down the communications and planning channel there is at least one patriot willing to speak up. Where is General Ham? Who first said “stand down.” What were Obama’s words with all eyes on him as they watched the attack? Will we ever know the truth about this lying psychopath’s history, his conspiracies and the depth of his anti-American agenda.
I had a nightmare. Obama was the US Secretary General.
“I had a nightmare. Obama was the UN Secretary General.”
That’s my dream, too. Then we throw the UN out of the country.
Jennifer Griffen of Fox is, or recently was, in contact with at least one of the building 1 evacuees –as she said late Saturday on camera. This is the witness who said that after he’d made it to building 2 he was hearing the building 1 gun battle on going until 4 AM. Meaning at least one and possible both Woods and Doherty were fighting right up until the attackers deployed that mortar and silenced them with plunging fire. One or both of them had already been wounded but was still firing the machine gun, said griffen, mentioning something about the gun being ‘blood-soaked’ even while the guys –as a Texan steeped in Alamo lore i can’t help but think, Woods & Doherty, Travis & Crockett –were still firing, holding off the attackers. Evidently the bad guys had to send for the mortar tube –they couldn’t get to W & D with gunfire, they needed to drop something on them from distance.
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Couple of adds to the discussion, MB has got to be hot to help Morsi, who is broke and out of food. Egypt’s fab tourist account is busted, they might as well put the Pyramids in mothballs and wait for after the next war’s gamma rays have dissipated.
Unless the eastern oilfields can be pried off faraway Tripoli, and used to feed the ten or twelve Egyptians instead of the one Libyan. This would also better explain the ongoing “fighting between tribes” that looks more like a try to destabilize the eastern wadis. This sort of thing smacks of Hillary and Humaden and the MB women’s mercy auxiliaries.
The other thing is the “AQ” general or combined command –in re the Benghazi attack planning –would it not understand that the attack was going to affect the USA election? Understanding the crucial nature of the Assad/Iran alliance for the MB –could Benghazi have been an Iranian operation against the manpads going to Free Syria, and hang it all if it gets Obama kicked out? Even tho Obama is protecting the mullahs?
“could Benghazi have been an Iranian operation against the manpads going to Free Syria, and hang it all if it gets Obama kicked out?”
Reza Khalilli and former CIA/State Larry Johnson (No Quarter blog) say Benghazi was a ‘false flag’ operation. That is, Iran used al Qaeda to attack America.
Iran gains by: 1) Sticking it to the Obama; 2) Stopping the anti-Assad weapons flow, as well as jihadis, into Syria; 3) Chasing the the US out of the Ummah so that it can control it.
Assuming, as almost everyone does that Jarrett is more or less an Iranian mole, one womnders who –still in the hypothetical here –started up the manpads-to-free-Syria ops in the first place? Unless Jarrett let it happen for awhile in order to set the anti-Assad people in motion, in order to get them identified, draw in their talent, and stay apprised of its initiatives. A KGB specialty (according to Kremlin-watcher JR Nyquist, whose titles point the topics) leveraging the long time lines available (no every-other-November electoral revolution in the Duma). Create your own oppo gangs in the sand kingdoms –let them draw in the pressure where you can observe it, let them win some, decap as neccessary.
What a squirrely mess. Bush used to get with his nat’l security agencies, and talk football.
“Why haven’t they [State Dept personnel] been identified and begun to tell their story?”
Because they want to keep their jobs and their pensions. Hence, all the leaks.
What it comes down to is Obama “hanging with the home boys”, to borrow from his past. In other words; though he didn’t want to he was cornered into the OBL operation, Valerie Jarret was dead set against it and the consequences of not offing OBL were made obvious to a reluctant Obama. He has known damn well what the “Arab Spring” has always been about, he has no problem with it. The reasons speak for themselves & don’t for an instant think this savage worries about American life.
It’s dereliction of duty, not treason.
I’m no fan of Obama. However, I think this article and many of it’s commenters are mistaken in using the term treason. I don’t believe Obama’s indifference and negligence rise quite up to the level of treason. Going to bed, then flying off to a Las Vegas fundraiser was shameful and disgusting, but it is not treason.
It’s certainly dereliction of duty, which is also a serious military offense. If any talk of impeachment proceeds, it should revolve around something more easily proved, rather than an argument that’s more difficult to prove.
Gross dereliction of duty.
The treason isn’t his abandonment of the men on the ground, but his support for the jihadists before and after.
This is a “man” who said he would side with the Muslims, after all.
I agree that it does not meet the very narrowly constrained (properly so) Constitutional definition of treason.
On the other hand, there’s a new Obama ad accusing Romney of “economic treason.” So apparently our Constitutional Scholar-In-Chief has a casual approach to narrowly constrained Constitutional definitions.
Not so sure about the Narrowness of it. If Nixon hadn’t left office voluntarily he would have faced impeachment. For what, covering up a burglary?
Remember,”or other High Crimes and Misdemeanors”, not necessarily both together. Like anything else in the Constitution, for better or worse, open to some interpretation.
obama and hillary and panetta and dempsey failed miserably.
they deserve their walking papers and the sooner the better.
the retired seals deserve medals of honor. if they can’t be given, then the presidential medal of freedom and congressional gold medal.
In a sane America, Benghazi would cost Obama this election. Treason, however, seems to me to be over the top. Also, I am saddened to see aspersions cast on the dead of Benghazi based on “rumors.”
Roger,
I can’t help but believe that the raison d’etre behind the op is even more horrible than our worst speculations. The level, scope and extent of the coverup is beyond belief – W/H, State, Pentagon, CIA, local commanders, et al.
Looks like a planned kidnapping or a “hit” on the Ambassador. That’s the only explanation for the delay in rescue operations; ie, the enemy’s plan was intended to succeed.
The appearance of Woods and Doherty at the mission compound was a complete surprise to everybody, given they were ordered TWICE to stand down. Their sudden and unexpected and deadly appearance foiled the plan, and Stevens survived to be taken near-death to a hospital hours later.
What would it look like if we elected a traitor to the White House? What if that traitor was a Muslim and beholden to all sorts of Islamic groups seeking to leverage an internal cultural rot already growing rampantly in the US? What if that traitor did everything possible to weaken the national in every aspect: financial, economic, militarily, religiously, energy production, and more with a strangling combination of regulations, czars and bureaucratic bullshit?
What would this traitor look like? Seriously.
Truth is indeed stranger than fiction, isn’t it?
That traitor would look like and that traitor IS Barack Hussein Obama!! Get rid of him and all the rest of the Far, far Left America hating scumbag Democrats at the local, state and national levels in November!! Time to take OUR country back from these Marxist, Muslim Devils!!
Guns for hostages in the Iran-Contra scandal. Here it is guns for Islamist-led overthrow of middle east dictators. Mindboggling.
It’s truly so, when you realize it’s four cases at least, not two. Eric Holder was far more than Chiquita’s lawyer when the banana boats were smuggling arms to *both* sides (in wit de Guns, out with de dope under da bananas, is the persistant rumor re the Chiquita blue-water fleet) of what was portrayed as ‘right wing death squads vs commie narco-trafficantes’.
What it was –and it killed thousands peasants –was Chiquita smuggling arms to two different gangs, activity unbeknownst to each other, and thus provoking a nasty little jungle war aimed at dumping the value of a great swath of banana land so that Chiquita could –and did –pick it up for a song. Holder and gang only got caught at it because that bunch of blue-nosed moralists in the new incoming GWB admin pressured the Colombian army to put a stop to the fighting and ferret out the force behind it.
Insert ”border lands” for ”banana lands” and you got yer Fast & Furious –also busted by the blue-nosed in the form of the 2010 midterms.
And there’s a fourth, run out of Miami into the Caribee.
And don’t get me started on Tom Donilon’s career from the Bosnia War to Nat’l Security Adviser, and the decade he spent as one of two on the bilderberg steering committee, responsible for the invitee lists, and please, dgmstarted on Macondo and Holder, and Mega Red Krill Oil for the aging boomers –it’s from clean cold water, not that toxic nerve-damaging Gulf of Mexico. Who sells it? Only the people Holder brought in to certify the BOP investigation … oh hell, there i go … i’ll be writing until midnight if i don’t stop RIGHT now.
…and did you even hear about THIS?
Of course you didn’t. It’s only the major event in the toppling of the West. Not front-page news, nawsuh, not at all!
Mr. Simon, not to be snide, but you were a progressive for much of your life. Were you really unaware of the moral blindness of those people, their “end justifies the means” mentality? Who but a cold psychopath could dismiss mass murder with a glib remark about eggs and omelets? Surely you yourself participated in, or at least listened to conversations discussing how many Americans might need to die to usher in the dream.
Obama now losing in Ohio in Rasmussen latest poll: Romney 50 – Obama 48. Expect bombing of Libyan aspirin factory any day now. Obama might even get another Nobel Peace Prize this week.
–don’t forget, just a few days ago, Obama saved the West by stopping –in the NICK of time –an attempt to blow up the Federal Reserve Building!
…and the Underwear Bomber who didn’t quiiiiite succeed? Yemeni. Guess whose law firm has done all the pro-bono defense work for the inordinately large Yemeni fraction of Gitmo detainees? And has been, since 9/11/01, providing the firm with extensive contacts throughout Yemen, whose northern border is saudi Arabia’s southern border?
Right! Eric Holder!
…and guess who employed the Times Square Bomber who also didn’t quiiiite succeed? The guy who placed Eric Holder with Chiquita Banana!
Small world! Really small world!
Even though you know who they are, it is still shocking to hear pundits like George Stephanopoulos and Joe Klein dismiss the importance of Benghazi, both as an incident and, in the aftermath, as a story.
An object lesson in just how far “the media” have sunk.
The Obama regime has been running guns and BIGTIME armaments and munitions, including MANPADS, which are shoulder-launched surface-to-air missiles designed to shoot down commercial jetliners, to the Muslim Brotherhood. This is just Fast-and-Furious except that the people being armed are musloids tasked with reforming the Islamic Caliphate instead of the drug cartels. But it is exactly the same thing. Ghadaffi was overthrown because the Obama regime wanted to use a chaotic, destabilized “wild west” Libya as the doorway to the Caliphate to get the arms in for distribution to Syria, Yemen, Jordan, Egypt and eventually Saudi Arabia. Egypt would have been too risky.
Ambassador Chris Stevens and the CIA were somehow, some way running or heavily involved this armament pipeline.
The Obama regime wanted and “needed” Chris Stevens dead, probably to cover the gun and armament running, so they killed him. Word was sent to the Muslim Brotherhood to attack the Benghazi facility. The Obama regime promised that there would be no retaliation and that a cover story about “slandering the prophet” would be provided. The Muslim Brotherhood wins all around. They get to keep all of the arms and MANPADS supplied by Obama with no whistleblowers AND they get their bull**** sharia law agenda advanced and explicitly ratified by the government of the United States.
…and the plan would definitely not have included Woods & Doherty, who walked over from building 2 when they heard the gunfire. Walked over, against orders.
I just sent the following email to my two senators, Murray and Cantwell. I expect I’ll get the usual BS blather in their response, but if more and more of us hounded them, they will feel the heat, sooner or later.
“It’s been 7 weeks since the attacks at Benghazi claimed four of our fellow citizens. For the first two weeks we were told by the White House it was a spontaneous demonstration against a You Tube video. Recent news reports are sheowing strong evidence that the White House knew the true nature of the situation in Behghazi yet did nothing to assist our fellow Americans. Seven weeks, and no clear answers, and no explanation for the lies we were told. What are you doing to get to the bottom of this?”
Feel free if any of you readers want to use it to contact your senators and representatives. The Blaze has an easy app for finding out how to contact them, and they even have links directly to their contact forms.
http://www.theblaze.com/take-action/
To Murray and Cantwell??? I laugh on your mustache. Big hahaha. Might as well complain to a couple of priests about the pope.
The Lawless Presidency is made possible by a conspiratorial media.
Not only does Obama act with impunity, he knows he will have his acts covered up by a mass media apparatus that is acting in concert with him. This is a Tango of Treason that calls the tune in our national security (leaks to the conspirators, refusal to call Ft. Hood terrorism, and Benghazi), in our DOJ (institutionalize racism, failure to prosecute clear crimes, running guns to drug cartels), our energy dept. (Solyndra, permits being refused, coal being run into extinction), our immigration policies, our bankruptcy courts, our Treasury, our fiscal policy (no MANDATORY budget produced in four years), in scandal after scandal after scandal.
The treason of our media gave birth to the treason of the Democratic Party and this administration.
Benghazi is the symptom of a metastasized disease. The betrayal is in full plague proportions. Four more years of this should just about kill off any chance of survival.
There are three things about Benghazi that haven’t been mentionned that are exceeding strange. One of them is crazy dangerous.
The first one is: why wan’t the entire situation controlled by procedures that had been carefully thought through years before. Like, is it some inconceivable idea that our embassies could be attacked? We have tens of thousands of people in the State Department, hundreds of thousands in national security, millions in the military. What the f are they doing? This should have been a textbook exercise in pre-planning, because the entire episode was highly predictable.
Second: isn’t protecting the life of an ambassador a #1 priority for the entire US government? Aren’t ambassadors the highest ranking US representatives in a foreign country? By extension, isn’t the ambassador the representative of the American people? How could this country not do everything to protect US! If the President of the United States was in a foreign country and was attacked, wouldn’t the entire force of the United States military be mobilized to protect him? Why wasn’t the same done for the ambassador. (rhetorical question of course. We KNOW why.)
Third: why was the President of the United States micro-managing the Benghazi situation, down to the level of deciding whether a gun-ship could take out an enemy mortar. That’s simply insane. Aside from the lunacy of the highest office-holder in the country making that level of decision, what equips any president to do it. Did Dwight Eisenhauer try to micro-manage the details of CIA activies during the Cold War? Not likely, and he was the last president even remotely trained to do that. I’ll tell you, if we are at the point where some uberly ambitious con-artist pollitician sits in a war room somewhere and the entire force of the United States is immobilized until he or she decides to pull a trigger in a conflict thousands of miles away, we are past the point of being able to protect ourselves. We are doomed. The mere fact that he apparently made such a decision is evidence that he HAS to be removed, with prejudice. He should have made one, and only one decision, which should have been: take every action possible, short of using nuclear weapons, to protect the life of the ambassador and the people in that consulate, provided that the responders were not flying into a situation where they would face certain death or capture.
Food for thought, well said.
I know what you’re thinking. A cloud of Russian and Chinese thermonuclear ICBMs flying toward us, and Obama has the football, and owns the chain of command tasked to route around the football.
Remember when Obama snuck away from his SS protection a couple years ago? He was missing for iirc 45 minutes? Anybody notice any digging around the WH of an unofficial nature?
what, am i crazy or something? Blowing my credibility with such nonsense outbursts. Shame on me (*cough*) December 7th (*cough*) September 11th (*gag*) …
Actually, what I’m thinking is that the Fraud is a narcissistic ideologue who has already chopped the country down to 50% of it’s former power and prestige and is absolutely determined to complete the job, no matter who suffers or dies.
Actually, the President does have to make that decision. State cannot start ordering around troops, unless those troops are tasked to them under mission specific orders, nor can the CIA. This is not a decision the SecDef can make himself, to commit troops to a theater for the first time, either. The President has to give the order, unless there are standing orders allowing involvement, in which case, the President might disallow. It looks like Obama disallowed involvement.
As the truth about Benghazigate comes out in little bits and peices on a daily basis, OBAMA and his supporters urge citizens to go vote early. Obama cast his vote earlier than any other president, Katy Perry at a concernt for OBAMA in Las Vegas urged young people to go vote right away. WHY? the sudden urge to vote early? Beacuse as people learn the truth about what really happen, they will most likely not vote for OBAMA. But….if you urge them to vote already before everything comes to light…well then it’s too late. Suckers!
Tear it up, Roger! Thomas Paine move over.
Since BHO always likes to relate how some issue is related to his children Malia & Sasha- should he be wondering how he would feel if they were over in Benghazi defending the compound/ambassador against the al qaeda insurgents??!!
First he runs guns to our enemies the drug cartels in Mexico with “Fast and Furious” and then another false flag operation in Benghazi this time running guns to other enemies of our country the al-Quida group in Syria. Just what does this failed President have to do to get the attention of the people who gave us this disaster in the last election? We actually had people vote for Obama so that blacks could have a chance at running the country, not that he was qualified, not that he had the background necessary, not that he even liked the country and certainly not because his mentors Rev. Wright and Frank Marshal Davis even pledged allegiance to this country, he was elected because of his skin color and for his redistribution schemes, the something for nothing bunch and the Communists which had gone underground in the Media, Education and Unions and Democrat Party. Will this Benghazi thing also be covered up with “Executive Privilege”, does he dare try that again like he did with “Fast and Furious”?
As bad as Obama is, the root of this evil lies not with him, but with a nation so decayed as to elect him in the first place.
We the people are to blame for this. The buck REALLY stops here with us.
It would be easy to blame the media, who have shilled and lied for Obama, but it is we the people who have allowed them to become shills and liars in the first place.
We have lost our way, and there is no hope for America unless we find it again.
Mr. Simon: “Aid and comfort to the enemy — what is that?”
No, Mr. Simon, it’s “adhering to their enemies, giving aid and comfort.” You left out the critically important “adhering” part. That requires active involvement with an enemy or joining up with them.
Aid and comfort alone aren’t sufficient.
The President may be guilty of neglect – nonfeasance if you will; but there is no evidence that he is guilty of malfeasance or deliberate efforts to hurt the country.
Let’s keep the criticism of the President here on this planet, please.
So you say
Impeachment won’t happen as the Republicans fear they would be over-reaching. Besides, in their view he’s gone in just a couple of months anyway so why risk it?
Treason would have to incorporate, in my opinion, some effort at overthrowing the legitimately elected representative government we have now.
Benghazi would not rise to that level – though I would argue that much of Obama’s agenda for the past four years in trying to change us from a Republic into a Socialist nation WOULD constitute such a charge.
Unfortunately an overwhelming majority (as in 75-90% plus) of the population would be required to back such a view, and that just ain’t gonna happen given the pure ignorance so many of my fellow citizens display….
This leaves us election day, 2012. Make it count.
“The future must not belong to those who slander the prophet of Islam.”
Barak Obama at the UN
Just thought we should remember this.
I can’t wait for him to be gone either but you’re suffering from Obama Derangement Syndrome. Does anyone believe, for a second, that they administration *wanted* them to die? That there aren’t some valid reasons why it unfolded the way it did?
This is like the garbage you read on Democratic Underground or Mother Jones. Get a grip.
This issue has made the hacks and shills come unglued. All the hacks and shills have turned this liberal into a Democrat (this time around).
Well John, notwithstanding your disbelief, what have we learned so far (and the new information that comes in makes it look worse and worse for Obama) that would exonerate Obama, et al? We know that heightened security was requested; it was not only denied but reduced. We know that the two Seals were ordered to stand down; the fact that they disobeyed that order and ran to the fight almost surely, ultimately saved scores of other lives. We know that one of the men on site had painted the mortar location, which would only occur if an armed asset was nearby. Why was the mortar site NOT taken out? It is hardly a sign of being a “wingnut” to want answers to these – and other – obvious questions. The fact that our national media have no curiosity about this scandal is nearly as devastating (and extremely disturbing with respect to our continued existence as a representative democracy where those in power will be held to account) as the Administration’s own response.
Omg. What will america do with this president? If all that’s true, this is far beyon treason
If Obama carries Ohio, how comfortable will be those who voted for him in knowing that they traded their vote for the lives of four American Heroes?
Nathan Hale said “I only regret that I have but one life to give for my country.”
Barack Obama apparently has no regrets.
There are really two separate issues going on here. First, who left the consulate at Benghazi so unprotected that it literallly sentenced four men to death? Worse, security at Benghazi was not only poor, but it was actually REDUCED by the State Department, taking 16 highly-trained military guards away from the ambassador just days before he was killed. Those 16 men could have made the difference between life and death on 9/11/2012, and they were taken away just when we needed them most.
Second, although the coverup after the fact (blaming this on an obscure video) was bad enough, somebody made the decision NOT to send help to these four men on 9/11. We still don’t know who officially did that and why. Obama is NOT admitting to it, but he was probably the one who made it because only presidents usually make decisions like that. If he did, then he is an accomplice to murder. Or, at the very least, he’s the biggest coward to ever inhabit the White House.
Always remember, we suffered our worst terrorist attack on the anniverary of 9/11 under Obama’s watch. That fact seems to get lost in all of this and we should never forget it.
What do you think of this Libertyship46?
Here is a new theory I just found that makes more sense than anything Obama has offered on Benghazi. Here is a
YouTube regarding a deal made by Obama with the Muslim brotherhood to “kidnap the ambassador” so Obama could then “rescue him” from his captors in exchange for his releasing the blind sheik, Rachman. Evidently things went terribly wrong when there were 2 Seals there who weren’t part of O’s plan, who fired on the “kidnappers” causing the conflagration, and the rest is history.
Is it possible?
:http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MFbmP5fW2-A
I am afraid that this dog won’t hunt. Heretofore anything painting POTUS in less than divine is treated as raw racism by Chris Matthews and the like.
If he is reelected, it is very likely that he will be tried and impeached, with a Greek Chorus in the media, weeping over the persecution of their paraclete.
“If he is reelected, it is very likely that he will be tried and impeached”
What are you smoking? Fast and Furious was already impeachable and all he had to do to get out of that was declare “executive privilege” and Bam, it’s a dead issue. The media can’t wait to bury this whole thing, and the republicans in congress will correctly surmise that it would be political suicide to try impeachment, no matter how justified. Obama could be caught on tape handing a truckload of weapons grade plutonium to the Iranians and he wouldn’t be impeached. When the media so blatantly supports the regime, anything is possible. That’s why we live in such dangerous times.
Just curious – did any PJMedia contributor ever chime in over the Pat Tillman incident/coverup? I’m not floating some lame “both sides do it” claim – I am suggesting a way for theses Bengazigaters to show they are not simply looking to score political points and actually have integrity on the issues they seem so passionate.
That’s pretty thin, Lonnie. Connecting the two cases via the topic of deceit in the high command? When Tillman was a case of circling the wagons and Benghazi a case of UN-circling the wagons? Nah –way too thin.
You should entertain the notion that not everyone in the world is a hyperpartisan party apparat with pocketfuls of litmus tests. PJM roughly runs to the 80/20 rule –get the govt body and soul back under the Constitution and 80% of the folks around here couldn’t care less which label is stuck on the pols that get’r done.
I hate to “Godwin” myself in this, but I can’t help but think of the potential historical parallel, where German officials refused to wake the Fuhrer when the true scope of the Normandy invasion became apparent. They were more afraid of incurring the wrath of Hitler, than in aggressively addressing the crisis before them.
The difference is that in WWII, da Fuhrer was already asleep and they didn’t want to wake him.
Given how poorly his skills as a general were, this actually may have been a good decision on the part of the Germans though it did tie up of resources only he had authority to release.
In this current instance, our own Dear Leader was already awake, was well aware of what was transpiring, and chose to go to bed anyway as he had something more important to rest up for – campaigning for re-election.
As much as I hate to admit it, I doubt Lil Adolf would have gone to bed under similar circumstances.
How the nation has survived four years of this man is a miracle in itself!
Impeachment would be too good for this America hating Marxist Rat. Obama, Clinton and the majority of his staff and advisors should all find themselves in front of a firing squad. They are indeed, The Enemy Within, and they should be dealt with harshly!!
Normal for the ones of terror to set up their large weapons in schools or day cares or hospitals ect. therefore that is for sure where they hid behind women and children this time too.
Is history any indication? Presidents have increasingly alarmed me, no matter what party. whats next?
There is nothing that I like about the way Obama and his administration handled this situation. It’s hard to imagine that even the most dyed-in-the-wool liberals are not aware the POTUS screwed up, and screwed up royally. Although the mainstream media has either ignored or half-heartedly covered the incredibly inept cover-up, anyone with half a brain knows that Obama et al lied through their teeth in presenting a patently false scenario about who and what was responsible for the deaths of four Americans. They’ve been caught with their pants down.
Even so, to call it treason is way over the top. Making an incompetent decision or failing to make a competent one is simply not in the same ballpark as wilfully and actively working to undermine your country. Egregious incompetence is dispicable, but it’s not treason. I can believe a lot of negative things about this President, but I simply cannot believe that he, Hillary or anyone else invoved either expected or wanted our Ambassador and three other Americans to perish.
Well, Roger, now you can expect a cascade of “CONSPIRACY THEORY!” accusations, dripping with sarcasm and dipped in venom. Benghazigate is going to be the tip of an iceberg that includes the power brokers of the major parties colluding to pawn off Obama as an American citizen. Anybody who could definitively prove otherwise has been bought off or otherwise silenced. The collusion encompasses shutting down the wells in the Gulf and passing on Keystone, with the ultimate intent of freezing us all pretty-much in place for lack of fuel. As you intimat, Mr Simon, Benghazigate itself will turn out to be Fast and Furious write large, with the intent of revoking the 2d Amendment and disarming us.
Sadly for the jerks behind all this, the traditions of free people setting their own terms is too strong. Obama & Mob thought they could turn off the oil spigot from the White House, but free-thinking men implemented fracking and in almost no time have pulled the plug on oil prices at the pump. The internet, plus the guts of a handful of journalists have spilled the beans thru old-fashioned investigative journalism.
Bit by bit it’ll all come out. America has been had. We’ve all suspected it all along, but have become so accustomed to shutting down our suspicions on pain of being sneered at as conspiracy nuts that we’re still somewhat inhibited. That’s passing. The evidence is mounting and quickly becoming overwhelming.
Begone, Obama.
Why did Obama not act? Because it is against Sharia law for a Muslim to kill another Muslim to save the life of a non-Muslim. Obama’s so-called wedding ring can be seen in his college pictures, long before he met his wife. It is an inscription on it that “Allah is the only God.”
I suspect the Ambassador was sacrificed a la Magnum Force. In some way he ran afoul of somebody and had to be silenced (which would explain the withdrawal of security), or else the crazies just ran out of control (which would explain the all-killing attack – murder by mob is always a blunt weapon rather than a surgical strike).
Maybe. Or maybe it was for a much more frivolous set of reasons. By responding against attacks on 9/11 Obama would be signaling to Muslim world their revenge for bin Laden’s death wasn’t justified especially with Obama bragging about so much in America to get elected. By blaming the attack on the anti- Muslim film he could have justification to intimidate America about limiting their Constitutional Free Expressions rights. He did the same thing to further intimidate Americans that Muslims will be favored over Americans politically, like the mockery of Justice that the Fort Hood incident involving a Muslim officer who killed 30 some American soldiers and his trial staved off purposely even still from 3 1/2 years ago. He also intimidated America with Gun Rights in Fast and Furious and in purposely wasting at least 1 trillion dollars total in phony Green Energy Companies. For those that don’t know or understand, when someone intimidates you that means they want to kill you.
Obama. All sizzle (Hurricane Sandy) and no steak (Benghazi). Although, isn’t the President doing a nice job, monitoring the storm and encouraging everyone to listen to local authorities and assessing the overall situation? I’m sure everyone on the East Coast is comforted in hearing the President is completely on board with their disaster and riding out the abject terror of it with them in such courageous, Commander-in-Chief like fashion, possibly even steering away the storm unlike Bush who purposely steered it into New Orleans with Katrina. He will probably promise and give record money and in a record timely fashion. We wouldn’t anyone, except our Marines or noble heroes to be left hung out to die. It just wouldn’t be Presidential.
BENGHAZIGATE – SHAME OF OUR GENERATION!
WHAT SHOULD WE HAVE EXPECTED OUR COMMANDER IN CHIEF TO DO – WHAT SHOULD HAVE BEEN HIS STANDING ORDERS?
WHAT KIND OF A MAN IS LEON PANETTA – HAS HE ANY UNDERSTANDING OF OUR MILITARY AT ALL? HAS THE SECDEF CHANGED THE WAY WE SUPPORT OUR MILITARY IN HARMS WAY OR ARE HIS NEW STANDING ORDERS TO WAIT IN THE BUNKERS WHILE THOSE SERVING OUR NATION ABROAD, HAVE COME UNDER FIRE, AND LIKELY TO DIE?
AS FAR AS I AM CONCERNED, WE HAVE JUST SEEN ONE OF THE DARKEST DAYS IN OUR HISTORY. A PRESIDENT WHO HAS EITHER PLAYED THE COWARD IN DOING NOTHING TO SAVE DYING AMERICANS OR A PRESIDENT WHO IS SO OUT OF TOUCH WITH THE NATION’S DEFENDERS THAT HE IS COMPLETELY INCOMPETENT TO BE COMMANDER IN CHIEF!
FOR THOSE [PREDOMINANTLY DEMOCRATS] WHO INSIST THAT THE PRESIDENT HAD INSUFFICIENT INFORMATION TO ACT AND WOULD NOT PLACE OTHERS IN HARMS WAY, SO BE IT! BUT YOU HAVE A FAR, FAR WORSE LEADER! THIS PRESIDENT IS INCAPABLE OF ADMITTING THE FACTS HE KNEW OR SHOULD HAVE KNOWN: BENGHAZI WAS AN ACT OF WAR AGAINST THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA – AN ACT OF COWARDICE WHICH CAN BE COMPARED WITH PEARL HARBOR AND 9/11/01, WAS IT NOT?
IS THIS TO BE OUR NEW RESPONSE TO DYING AMERICANS SERVING THEIR COUNTRY? “WE CAN’T HELP YOU RIGHT NOW, FIRST WE HAVE TO HAVE AN IN-DEPTH INVESTIGATION OF THE SITUATION.” HAS MR OBAMA PLACED IN OFFICE LEADERS WHO ARE INCAPABLE OF HANDLING CRISIS? HAS OUR INTELLIGENCE FAILED US SO COMPLETELY? IS THIS WHAT WILL HAPPEN FROM NOW ON?
SO OUR INCOMPETENT OR COWARDLY PRESIDENT – RATHER THAN ADMIT HIS FAILURE [THE BUCK STOPS WHERE?] TO ACT FOR DYING AMERICANS IN A HOSTILE LAND – HE CONTINUES TO CAMPAIGN FOR HIMSELF AND PROCLAIMS FOR WEEKS THAT BENGHAZI WAS JUST A JUSTIFIABLY ANGRY CROWD OVER A VIDEO THAT INSULTED THEIR RELIGION. THIS, FROM A PRESIDENT WHO HAS NEVER DEFENDED THE WORST INSULTS AGAINST CHRISTIANS AND JEWS SPREAD ACROSS THE LAND OF THE FREE IN THE PAST FEW YEARS.
GOD SAVE US FROM THE MOST PATHETIC PRESIDENT EVER!
AFA I can tell, we are not deaf or across the street.
Wow! Please don’t take this the wrong way Roger, but it sounds like you’ve been reading my posts for the last week! Your article has mentioned every accusation I’ve made and will continue to make except for the Opinion that this was a BETRAYAL worthy of Judas! The only other statement is that the Obama Jihadi media has become complicit in these Murders by attempting to hide or Lie about the act and further cover up of this TREASON! President Judas will forever be known as “The Butcher Of Benghazi” for His Real Time Betrayal, When these Deaths Could have and Should have been stopped by the 2 drones or the AC-130 Spectre Gun Ship Stationed Overhead! Dougherty & Woods Killed approximately 60 terrorists before the Traitor-in-chief watched them die while stopping the American Military and the CIA from saving them! How is that Not TREASON?!?!?
This is why I fight the Obama Jihadi media, more than the Treasonous POS Occutarding the White House! They were taught the ethicsa they are betraying. The Butcher of Benghazi is an Alinsky Marxist Ideologue and he’s doing exactly what he was taught!
Here’s how to fight the Obama Jihadi media & Win: http://paratisiusa.blogspot.com/2012/09/an-open-letter-to-those-who-should-know.html?spref=tw
God Bless America!
Sad part is: nothing can be done about anything. The Senate is run also by marxists, so is the Supreme Court and this article backs up another one of my theories: DEMOCRATICS/MARXISTS/ISLAM ALL ARE IN CALIPHATE AGAINST U.S.(our Republic) primarily led by our women ALONE, who elected them and ALL FROM THE SAME HATE! However, I’m not worried about it at all because the Bible is perfectly clear that it is the two-witnesses of Revelation, chapter 11 that will severely PUNISH u.s., leaving only 72,000 women & 72,000 men alive of the anglo-saxon variety, indicating just how good our marxist school sysyem has been started by Thomas Dewey in ’43 and, second the 144,000 left alive from all 12 tribes of Israel with the tribe of Joseph replacing the tribe of Dan(Irish) as being protected in these last days sounds about right to me. Obviously, We’re not worth the powder to blow u.s. to h-ll anyway. Just saying…
“It is undoubtedly worse than Obama simply turned his back on cornered American citizens in a foreign land, knowing undoubtedly they would die. But that Barack did so without any compelling reason—except political—is beyond evil. Only a moral monster would have made that decision when it was within his powers to possibly save them with almost no effort of his own.”
This situation is strangely similar to Obama’s position on the bill that would have given aid to a baby born alive after a botched abortion. Obama said he couldn’t vote for the bill because it would weaken the right to abortion. Therefore, he would let a human being die to advance his political position. That’s a “moral monster” in my book.
Hell, I’m old enough to remember when treason was a capital offense.
Now, treason isn’t even cause for firing someone from his or her job.
it sounds like a “Fast & Furious” scandal on a global scale with extraordinary geopolitical implications.
…Worse, and the more you look, the smellier it gets. The timeline that’s been patched together so far suggests that the WH wasn’t just willing to sentence four Americans to death, but wrote off all three dozen trapped in the mission. ‘Only’ four died in the end because, it seems, the ex-SEALs and a couple of others disobeyed orders to stand down. Otherwise, we’d be looking at a massacre, seemingly blessed by the WH.
We know that an American embassy is American soil under int’l law. What about a consulate or a mission? — and who decides which is what?
Sound like treason is the polite word to use, implying that the rule of law still prevails in the land. Has anyone asked the corrupt turd at Justice what he plans to do? Or why Panetta’s still a free man? Or why the dismal MSM continue to look the other way?
Or why we should put up with any of it?
Meanwhile, in the WH, the butcher of Benghazi won’t even miss a round of golf.
And where the hell is Romney?
Wow, what a surprise. A bunch a wankers making shyte up as they go along and actually accusing the President of treason all the while ignoring their own. Have you wankdicks forgotten the original 9/11? Your boy georgie got his ass handed to him with 4000 dead and you guys didn’t make a peep.
This whole thing was a black op asshats. It started with Dickhe*d Cheney lying about the daily briefs the Friday before. then, surprise, a terrorist attack. Too bad your idiot candidate couldn’t wait for the news to come in before jumping in and lying his arse off before anything was known and looking like the opportunistic, power-mad Morman trash that he is.
You closeted girls don’t even know when your guys are doing a black op and you expect the world to take you seriously? Go fark yourselves, you seditious Confederate c*nts.
You got alot of nerve to be associating anyone opposed to your Chocolate Jesus with the Confederacy. The Confederacy was in favor of slavery; the only ones who seem to be in favor of slavery these days are you Obama supporters. The Obamacare insurance mandate has turned everyone in this country into a serf with its requirement that one pay a fee to an insurance company or a tax/penalty to the government simply for being alive. Apparently we no longer have a God-given right to life – we have to buy it instead. Sedition? That’s the proper response to tyrany.
Is going to be interesting to see who/whom the O pardons the day before his reign is over
Obamas heart froze when his parents abandoned him, and any sympathy harbored for that situation evaporated long ago. This psychopathic liar is nothing less than a sociopath in league with evil. It is happening right here in front of us.
Everywhere people say the media is just not reporting this. They say Obama is corrupt and lied about it letting people die. There are dozens of reasons he could be impeached yet no one does anything. No one lifts a hand to do anything. Where is Romney? Where is Boehner? Where is McConnell? Where are Republican governors? Where are moderate Democrats? Where is the military? Where are you America? They, mainly media and politicians, get away with it because they know the most any of you will do is type some comments on websites. They control you because you sit there doing nothing. In other countries these kinds of scandals and lies would bring governments down. There would be rioting in the streets and people screaming in front of the capitol for investigation and prosecution but in America nothing. America is dead. Obama will be reelected even if Romney wins the popular vote. After breaking so many laws do you really believe the process will be fair and clean? The blood of innocent Mexican children killed by drug gangs, the Seals that killed bin Laden, a US ambassador and his Navy Seal guards are on the hands of this administration a few fake ballots and number fixing is nothing. The question should now be when is anyone in America going to do anything about it?
63 plain ordinary people got elected to first terms on Tea Party platforms in the last election –we have another coming up now –we may win the whole three parts of the exec and legislative. You want we should go set the streets on fire right now, and conform ourselves to the oppo’s fast-melting narrative about violent right-wingers? That’d be just peachy with the reds –they’d LOVE it –that’s exactly what they’ve been trying so hard to provoke –a system break-down, proving our political system can not stand up to the totalitarian challenge.
… however, let’s talk again on Nov, oh, 9th or so.
And now we see the Republican elite throwing them back out, Alan West anyone? or forcing them to change tunes, Rand Paul anyone? Meanwhile the Democrats just did business as usual stuffing ballots to get Obama reelected just like I said. The “reds” have already broken the system down beyond repair. Let the “reds” believe what they want. Extremism in the defense of liberty is no vice, moderation in the pursuit of justice is no virtue! There are two sides to this; liberty or tyranny. I side with liberty even if it means being mocked by the tyrants. Better to be mocked by a tyrant than remembered as a coward.
all of those who supported and voted for obama in 2008
every one of ‘em were just like obama in one simple way
all shared jeremiah wright’s ‘goddamn america’ mindset
and so do all of ‘em who intend to vote for obama again
The situation in Libya is being politicized and the victims and there families being instrumented as a ruse to create doubt of Obama’s leadership. Public access to real facts is being whitewashed by this rhetoric while conservative hands paint the Blackface on our President. Watch them mix and apply the paints to his face in a portrait of Obama being Bamboozed by the Far Right at http://dregstudiosart.blogspot.com/2012/10/bamboozling-obama.html
Can’t he just have a waffle?
Obama now puts on a show by staying at the WH during the storm.Maybe ther was a basketball game going on. He was at the WH when 4 Americans were being murderred, only he went to bed and campaigning. THis sleeze has his priorities all f ed up, he’s just a shwmwn and a conman
Look for the White House burning documents.
Here is a new theory I just found that makes more sense than anything Obama has offered on Benghazi. Here is a
YouTube regarding a deal made by Obama with the Muslim brotherhood to “kidnap the ambassador” so Obama could then “rescue him” from his captors in exchange for his releasing the blind sheik, Rachman. Evidently things went terribly wrong when there were 2 Seals there who weren’t part of O’s plan, who fired on the “kidnappers” causing the conflagration, and the rest is history.
Is it possible?
:http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MFbmP5fW2-A
This should be front page news every day, until he was forced to resign.
Instead, all I’m hearing/reading everywhere is talk about some storm. Infuriating!
Maybe Obama isn’t a Muslim, but he’s certainly acting like one.
Maybe Obama isn’t a Marxist, but he’s certainly acting like one.
Maybe Obama is an American, but he’s certainly not acting like one.
CAN OBAMA BE TRIED FOR TREASON IF
HIS DEFENSE IS THAT HE’S NOT AMERICAN?
Just asking.
so, if the T word is thrown out there, and i’m not taking a line on whether it should or should not, simply positing a question, what penalty would the people ask for? would he make another first being the first president tried under penalty of death? I somehow doubt his throngs of followers would allow that.
Last year our military, under the direction of Napoleon Obamaparte, was used to help jihadists take control of Libya, but now when the jihadists attack our consulate and murder Americans…our military does NOTHING. No response during the attack and none in the weeks since.
If that ain’t treason, it’ll do ’til the real thing comes along.
It looks like Syria is coming along.
OBAMA’S LIES ABOUT BENGHAZI ARE AS DECEPTIVE AS ANY STALINIST SHOW TRIAL.
The ‘Free Press’ is not only colluding in this cover-up, but complicit.
From a criminal law perspective, it’s ugly. The operatives in the coverup could quite literally be Accessories to Murder.
To be a moral monster, you’d have to have actual morality. The Won has none.
The Won is more a small-sized great white shark of politics, with a brain given over 70% to scenting political blood in the water, and the other 30% to political maneuvering. In other words, he can sense political advantage, but without a huge cheering section he can’t do all that well.
This doesn’t leave much room for morality. Or smarts. Hence TOTUS.
Reflect on Captain McAllister’s remark about Homer Simpson: “‘Tis no man, ’tis a remorseless eating machine, Arr.”
Folks. The Sixth Fleet was right offshore. For this Administration to state that assets weren’t available is ridiculous. A Carrier task force was available!
There are people out there that know the whole story or at least large pieces of it that could be coupled with what others know. If they do know and don’t come forth before the election to ensure Oblamer is fired, whatever happens in a second disasterous reign of terror would be on their heads. I only hope they are American enough to tell what they know. I’d love to hear General Ham’s story and why he was relieved of duty.
simple: Obama was taken by suprise and did not have any instructions from the islamic heirarchy. Normally his every action is the adgenda that Michelle brought back from the Spanish and African vacations which were islamic diplomatic missions.
It takes a vacant creature, a soul less thing, to sit and watch the very people you are sworn to support, die. And have no emotions. To have the ability to send help . To have known about it hours before. To have had them beg you for help 15 days earlier. AND DO NOTHING.
Then to top that, Obama lies. Has Hillary lie. Has Leon Panetta lie. For what ? To save his own lousy hide ? To have an election claim he has destroyed Al Qaeda ? Maybe . I think Obama got an immense perverse thrill from watching Americans die.
“There is no honor among thieves”
To paraphrase Dr. Suess: Barack Hussein Obama, will you please go now?
Tomorrow is Election Day.
In light of this article, who will win the day?
That we still can’t say for sure is the story.
Kill Obama!! That piece of shit did not freeze or hesitate to make a decision. He made the decision to do nothing. He was out campaigning the very next day. Get rid of this piece of shit. I’m sure if you killed him yourself the government would look the other way.
Kill the muslim, fraud, Obama
Living in faux-liberal Marin county, Ca, I get the great honor of having to both talk and listen to their “political” lectures every day: about how we should recycle, and label GMOs, and be nice to animals, and minorities… There is a certain presumptuousness among faux-liberals, that they indeed are the more enlightened species, and that all conservatives are just old, outdated cowboys. (I mean, like, ewwwww?!) Grizzled John Wayne wannabes, washed-up like Jeff Bridges in that singing western movie, drunk, angry, and clueless.
Very rarely can these faux-liberals even engage you in a substantive conversation about specific domestic policies or geopolitical strategies. Their whole paradigm is based on the presentation, what it looks like to the rest of their audience, just like a sitcom, or MSNBC. We’re hip, we’re cool, we have minority friends, and some of our best friends, are, like, totally gay. Ask them about the NDAA, or what happened on Sept. 11, 2012, and they quickly reveal their ignorance. They really don’t know anything about politics, and are only parroting a media-fed, faux-liberal line to fit in.
Additional security had been requested back in August by Ambassador Stevens. The Tripoli Embassy was frantically calling Washington for help 4pm EST the night of the attack. Not to mention plenty of support close by:
The security officer (who was on the roof of the annex and had a laser on the target that was firing at them) REPEATEDLY requested back-up support from a Specter gunship, which is commonly used by U.S. Special Operations forces to provide support to Special Operations teams on the ground involved in intense firefights. The fighting at the CIA annex went on for more than four hours — enough time for any planes based in Sigonella Air base, just 480 miles away, to arrive. Two separate Tier One Special operations forces were told to wait, among them Delta Force operators.
The interesting thing is the Specter. It’s the perfect plane for this sort of thing — it loiters slowly over a target. It’s heavily armored (for a plane). It’s got huge guns for obliterating ground target. The SO was aiming a laser on a ground target, painting it for a plane to see. To drop a bomb, to attack with very heavy machine guns. But the laser itself is nothing, absolutely harmless. So he sat up there on the roof, risking his life to paint a target with laser light, and no one bothered to send anything to hit that target.
We know from multiple other sources that the first reaction of the Military would be to move in. We know that the White House was monitoring the attack in the Situation Room. We know that a “stand-down” order was given, not once, but twice. We know that assistance was requested and denied three times.
Details emerge everyday, we’ll see where this goes and if Congress actually will grow a pair and follow though.
In my life time from 1956 to present I have never seen a president so enamored with his image, He has done far worse than Nixion ever did and still hestands as our president what does it take to empeach this guy and fire him elections be damned
treason should be a capital offense.