Four-hundred lib rabbis — the kind that give sanctimonious sermons about the environment at Westchester synagogues — have banded together to slam Glenn Beck with a $100K ad in the Wall Street Journal. According to the clerics, Beck has been unfairly attacking George Soros for collaborating with the Nazis in WWII when the billionaire was a fourteen-year old — something that Soros himself admits and, incredibly, doesn’t feel guilty about.
Steve Kroft of 60 Minutes interviewed Soros about his “youth.” Given the rabbis’ WSJ ad, it seems worth reprinting a transcript of a significant part of that interview here:
KROFT: (Voiceover) And you watched lots of people get shipped off to the death camps.
Mr. SOROS: Right. I was 14 years old. And I would say that that’s when my character was made.
KROFT: In what way?
Mr. SOROS: That one should think ahead. One should understand and–and anticipate events and when–when one is threatened. It was a tremendous threat of evil. I mean, it was a–a very personal experience of evil.
KROFT: My understanding is that you went out with this protector of yours who swore that you were his adopted godson.
Mr. SOROS: Yes. Yes.
KROFT: Went out, in fact, and helped in the confiscation of property from the Jews.
Mr. SOROS: Yes. That’s right. Yes.
KROFT: I mean, that’s–that sounds like an experience that would send lots of people to the psychiatric couch for many, many years. Was it difficult?
Mr. SOROS: Not–not at all. Not at all. Maybe as a child you don’t–you don’t see the connection. But it was–it created no–no problem at all.
KROFT: No feeling of guilt?
Mr. SOROS: No.
KROFT: For example that, ‘I’m Jewish and here I am, watching these people go. I could just as easily be there. I should be there.’ None of that?
Mr. SOROS: Well, of course I c–I could be on the other side or I could be the one from whom the thing is being taken away. But there was no sense that I shouldn’t be there, because that was–well, actually, in a funny way, it’s just like in markets–that if I weren’t there–of course, I wasn’t doing it, but somebody else would–would–would be taking it away anyhow. And it was the–whether I was there or not, I was only a spectator, the property was being taken away. So the–I had no role in taking away that property. So I had no sense of guilt.
Given that Soros cash is everywhere, I would imagine those brain dead rabbis are getting some themselves.
Glenn Beck bothers old Georgie Porgie so much that, late last year, he had his people meet in NY with an (unnamed) Fox producer to shut Beck up.
Whadda planet.
Not just some, T….all.
http://www.commentarymagazine.com/blogs/index.php/category/contentions
Some people have questioned the call to judge Soros for his involvement in the persecution of Holocaust victims. That “sensitivity” with the left appears quite disingenuous in contrast to their current views about the persecution of Israel.
The sad fact is that leftists are leftists first, last and always.
They seek to hurt Beck. They should have higher purposes in mind, but they do not.
I’m glad they gave the WSJ 100k. It could have gone to the NYTimes…but, they would have printed this slander for free.
First, Jewish Funds for Justice is actually funded by Soros, which makes the group’s campaign appear to be more of a personal vendetta than anything else.
Thanks for the link. Those rabbis should be ashamed of themselves, doing the bidding of this 80 something paranoid old man and his…
Tangled Web
(I have read that the infamously dumb Arianna at HuffPo is among the recipients of Soros cash)
“(I have read that the infamously dumb Arianna at HuffPo is among the recipients of Soros cash)”
Maybe her alimony ran out.
If any one thinks that Soros is being persecuted unjustly by Beck, then they are misinformed. Beck and his staff, have researched Soros and his organization fully, or they would never air it on national TV. Soros,is responsible for funding of foundations whose only purpose is to hurt the USA. Van Jones, Huffington Post flake Ariana both work for George Soros or are funded by him. It was just announced that Acorn’s Bertha Lewis, is in the employ of a Soros entity. I think we all remember the chicanery that went on in that organization with voter fraud, helpful information on the transporting of underage illegal girls for the sex trade, also advising a young couple on how to get a mortgage by using a different name to open a whore house. We owe a debt of gratitude to Beck and Fox News for keeping us informed, a job the other media fail miserably in doing.
Saying those “rabbis” should be ashamed of themselves is like saying Soros should be ashamed of himself. They are not capable of it. I suspect these “rabbis” are of the current ilk whose religion is unquestioned, hard-left “progressivism.” They are part of the Religious Left, just as fundamentalist as the fables Religious Right, except that their religion is politics.
dear tanstaafl
If you notice her speaking on OReilly,her tone is very much lowered.I do believe she is seeing the light,but must be careful as the money needs to keep flowing.
Soros is an example of one of the will-to-power driven monsters I’m writing about in my book. For Soros and those like him, it ceased being about money a long time ago. If in fact it ever was. It’s about power – the insatiable and unquenchable desire to control mankind. And to harm others without consequence. It’s beyond sick. It is evil.
It’s a bizarre variaion of the Stockholm syndrome.
After thousands of years of persecution, they form a pact with the most odious of the persecutors, perhaps in an insane hope that the Soroists will be deceived into thinking they aren’t Jewish.
The human mind is capable of conceptions unlike no other animal.
yes!!!!!!
Seriously, the worse the person is or treats them
the more they love ‘em Totally DISGUSTING!!
Is this personal money?…and what part of Soros
admitting all of this and then stating he didn’t feel guilty don’t they understand.
Those Rabbis must LOVE the sound of Jackboots…SHAME!!
Actually the Leftist – Jewish connection goes back a lot further. In the days of the Russian Tzar’s Pogroms against the Jews, there were Communist thinking Jews aligned with the Communist Russians. It is hypothesised that a lot of the leftist Jew migrated to various places including the USA.
That supposedly is genesis of the links of some Jews with Socialism/Liberalism
I guess it goes to show that every race, creed and color has its quota of village idiots.
Agreed. I wasn’t trying to restrict my comment to Soros. The Jewish Stockholm syndrome is much older than that. There were also many Jews who thought they could work with Hitler, for a while. Which also illustrates a basic truth, totalitarians only tolerate Jews when it is convenient; they are invariably the first group to be persecuted when the tyrants decide that they need a whipping boy. For example, even a casual observor can see the blatant anti-Semitism in the Obama cabel. If the cabal succeeds in its coup of the United States, it will only be a matter of time until Jews are persecuted by them as well.
I’m sorry, but you mis-interpret the reasons for Jewish leftism. Podhoretz’ excellent book, “Why Are Jews Liberals?”, gets it right. It was the left, from the late eighteenth century to the mid-twentieth century, which proposed and pushed for Jewish emancipation.
The problem is that approximately 70% of the Jewish community foolishly do not recognise that the tables have turned and that the left (including Obama, J-Street, and Soros) are now far more anti-Semitic than the right. And the right — from NRO to Hagee — are consistently far more pro-Jewish and pro-Israeli than the left.
In fact, I think gentiles such as Hagee and Beck are far better friends to Israel than loony-left Jews like Chomsky and Soros. Though an independent myself, I’d be delighted to see conservatives, both Jewish and gentile, go on a strategic offensive to pull more Jews into the Republican Party; while their numbers are small, Jewish thinkers are outspoken and would be as asset to the right.
On the Beck issue, I’d love to see a coalition of pro-Israeli conservatives (both Jewish and gentile) take counter-ads intended to highlight Soros’ anti-Israeli campaigns and the extent of the rabbis’ useful idiocy in defending Soros. Anything to split the unthinkingly monolithic Jewish and black loyalty to liberalism, can only be good.
I despise George Soros and all that he stands for.
However to compare the actions of a 14 year old Jew at the mercy of and in the midst of Nazified Europe with a group of adults acting without duress and from the safety of a free society is an enormous error of rational and moral judgement.
These so called ” Rabbis ” have removed themselves from all normative Jewish values. They have as much in come with Rabbinic leadership as a snake oil salesman has with a medical doctor.
As for Soros, if indeed he is a Jew ( and I have my doubts ), his soul has become so warped with self hate that a thousand Sigmund Freuds’ could not plumb its’ depths.
Whadda planet…no kidding…hey, if I had ever seen a UFO, I’d have told the ETs that they were welcome to take me away as long as they promised never to bring me back here again.
This just goes to show that anybody can be utterly and irredemably evil, whether they are traitorous middle-aged rabbis or a rotten fourteen-year-old boy. Or a president who takes money from what was once the evil fourteen-year-old boy.
Money trumps the Halocaust. When will the Jews ever learn? When you dance with the devil,it always results in another Halocaust.
So they’re saying that he was old enough for Bar Mitzvah, but not old enough to know right from wrong?
I suppose these same rabbis will give Pope Benedict the same benefit of the doubt?
Benedict, for all of his faults, was an unwitting participant in the HY; he knew his parents would be sanctioned and severely punished if he did not join. And I doubt that he ever saw any “Aktionen”. Soros, OTOH, sounds like he gleefully took part in the expropriation of property, rather than just passively observe. So, Benedict deserves understanding and patience far more than Soros.
Good point. He was considered a “man”.
at that age everyone understands right from pure evil.
He must have given then a bucket full of money…how ’bout a concentration camp full.. or a few lamp shades made from the ancestors hide..
Just as likely a pair of pliers to extract gold teeth from the mouths of his Jewish brethren…whether they be amongst the dead…or the living.
These same Rabbis WOULD give Ratzinger the benefit of the doubt. Those who have spent time educating themsleves and have an ounce of Jewish self respect will not. The Ratzingers had options. The Jews did not.
Can you just picture the scene.
A little boy holds hands with his benefactor as they stroll through the ghetto of persecuted Jews,lying,starving and not fully clothed. The little boy turns to his new dad and says” I hate these rotten scum,I wish they would all die”. As they leave,he gives an old women a vicious kick to the stomach as she lay dying on the rubble that was once their home,with her three lovely daughters now gone.The man,in a beautifully ironed uniform turns to the boy and with a smirk,says”don’t worry child,they will ha ha ha ha ha.
Right you are, Snork!
Haven’t heard from you for awhile. I’m still posting and commenting on Blogmocracy…give me a shout!
There were rabbi sonderkommando’s, what has changed. Evil comes in all forms. Soros bought himself a few kapos. We know what happens to these when a Nazi is finished with them.
” There were rabbi sonderkommando’s, ”
I challenge you to name but one.
cfbleachers: Thanks for the link and what is said is on the mark.
I was disgusted with the full page add in today’s WSJ but give them credit for being stand ups.
A very sad thing indeed.
But we must understand that the totalitarians like SSoros are terrorized by the work that Beck is doing: Beck is systematically revealing the subversives’ activities to destroy the Republic.
The CHIMERA (the alliance of marxists, elitists, and islamists) is terrorized by the light of the day.
It’s a good thing that they attack back, it means that they are being hit by Beck’s work.
The Jewish population in the United States at large has the same perception problem that the Rabbis exhibit, an inability to identify friend vs foe.
Watch Beck or listen to him and explain to me how he could possibly be an enemy of Jewish people or Israel. Yet the Rabbis side with Soros, not Beck. That thinking reflects some sort of bizarre offshoot of Stockholm syndrom, near as I can tell.
The Israelis don’t seem to similarly afflicted.
I really can’t figure this out. I mean, either Beck is right about Soros collaborating or he’s not (and of course the interview settles that.)
Isn’t the fact that it’s true a sufficient answer?
It’s true, but it’s not useful.
Isn’t the fact that it’s true a sufficient answer?
Since when have the Progressives let a little thing like the truth get in the way of a good narrative?
I’ve finally reached the conclusion that the only way to categorize this sort of wanton disregard for the truth and established facts is it’s straight-up evil. Only the devil and his minions would spend so much time and effort trying to tear down good people like Beck, Palin, and your average Tea Partier.
Notice that the Rabbis and the organization they’ve signed on with (which is Soros-funded, of course) never denies that he was a collaborator, and never denies that he says he doesn’t regret it. They can’t– these are well-known facts.
Instead, they’re vaguely upset about the holocaust being diluted in its emotional connotations by Beck’s references. Looking through the organization’s site, it’s mostly a mouthpiece for anti-Fox, anti-Beck criticism. A notable exception is that they took to the air to condemn Sarah Palin for defending herself against the accusations that she was involved in the Tucson attack.
I see no similar condemnation of Rep. Steven Cohen and other Democrats who have used the phrase “blood libel” and made frequent comparisons of their enemies to nazis and the holocaust. This is a propaganda front, pure and simple.
It is the same with Frances Fox Piven, whom Beck had quoted chapter and verse from what she said in the Nation only a week or two before, who complained that his rhetoric had endangered her life.
It’s a leftist policy and philosophy. Attack, attack, attack, true or not. It worked with racial issues. Today, you can’t say anything ambiguous about blacks and latinos without being called a racist, with the support of the media. Their new objective is to limit, or better yet eliminate, criticism of the left.
Piven is a liar. If the Right were in any way a danger to her, she would have been dead decades ago.
family guy episode…
peter places an inflatable hitler by his door to scare mort goldman. lois tells peter it won’t work.
mort sees the ‘scare-jew’ and panics:
“protect john stewart, he’s our most valuable jew”.
is there any doubt that soros in number 2?
(replacing babs)
On the other hand, our liberals think Pope Benedict is a crypto-Nazi because as a child he was pressured into joining the Hitler Youth–even though he and his father were hostile to Hitler and Benedict did not attend HY meetings. In contrast to Soros who ran errands for Nazis.
A morally reprehensible comparison. Was the Ratzinger family hunted for extermination? Were their houses of worship burned to the ground? Was all of Europe turned against them?
And what of Ratzinger now? Excusing Bishops who deny the Holocaust ever happened. Re-introducing anti-semitic theology. Proposing for ” sainthood ” a person who, with once spoken sentence, could have saved millions but kept his mouth shut.
Ratzinger is a moral pimp.
Benedict is being attacked by the left for two reasons:
1. A typical attack on Christianity, which promotes the leftist agenda of destroying major religions.
2. As you can see from the response of Menachem Ben Yacov, to get sympathy for the left from the Jews, which is why the Jews tend to support the left, who are often perceived as defenders of the “lest we forget” philosophy.
Menachem is correct; Benedict is tone-deaf to Jewish concerns, unlike John Paul.
I can’t say I admire either Soros or Benedict.
Yes, that is acceptable to some but the fact that Soros was only 14 when he went around with his German guardian makes it bad for Beck to mention this according to Jonathan Tobin in Contentions
Soros Is No Good Guy, but Beck’s Holocaust Remarks Are Dead Wrong
; which makes one wonder whether logic is relative or just that the political hypocrisy is so blatant.
Although no fan of former Gov. Schwarzenegger, I recall when he was running the media tried its best to connect him to the Nazi party and the SS because his father supposedly was involved with the party. Schwarzenegger was not even born during the Nazi regime. The hypocrisy of the media never ends and the sheople, unfortunately, still take what they say for the truth. Rabbi Lapin who has a talk show out here on the west coast has explained many times the reasons for the American Jewry being so far left and progressive. Check out his website.
Soros’s lack of remorse is astounding. It’s not even a matter of whether Soros thought he should be on the death march with his fellow Jews…I can see his point there, because it’s true. But the point, I think, is that he obeyed orders from his Nazi masters to the letter. He doesn’t even regret – now, when there is no price at all to pay – that he didn’t try to monkey-wrench their plans, work slowly to delay them so some Jews could flee, help to thwart them in any manner, great or small. Nope, he had a job to do and he did it. Full-stop.
Revolting.
Not even an expression of survivor’s guilt.
Great point, Rob. At the very least it would indicate an inkling of humanity.
who said he was human?
You simply cannot grasp the reality of what is was like. You demand enormous courage from Soros. He simply did not have it.
No one is challenging his courage. The fact of no remorse or sorrow is the issue -
STOP DEFENDING THAT PIECED OF DRECK!
The fact that he is trying to bring down Israel and is obviously pro arab makes me believe that he is not jewish but in fact a war criminal.
Menachem is probably one of those progressive Jews as represented by the rabbis. I agree, stop defending Soros, the fact that he has no regrets whatsoever shows how dreckig he is.
From the ad: “But you diminish the memory and meaning of the Holocaust when you use it to discredit any individual or organization you disagree with.”
I disagree with the American Nazi party, but I can’t use the fact they like the Holocaust to discredit them?
When the Nazis came looking for Jews, in some countries birth records indicated who was, and was not, a Jew. The Nazis used those records to find Jews. Other, more enlightened countries didn’t have such detailed records. Remember that in Denmark the King wore the Star of David, and the problem of rooting out the Jews was much harder because of his valor. May God bless him and his memory.
When the time comes, these 100 rabbis have identified themselves.
Soros is not sorry for revealing hidden Jews: if he hadn’t done it somebody else would have. How is he different from former death camp guards?
Birth certificates routinely record the religion of the newborn’s parents, their occupations, race, address and so forth. Jews were included like everyone else. What’s benighted about doing so? Or “enlightened” by treating them differently or indeed by keeping scanty records?
My birth certificate lists the “color or race” of both parents, but not religion. Now if being Jewish is a religion, that is one thing, and if being a Jew is a race then listing “Jew” on birth records is reasonable. I do believe that this is a question which even the Isreali Supreme Court has dealt with: is Judaism a race or a religion. A country which considered Judaism a race would record that information on medical records.
These rabbis have self-identified as liberal progressives, supporters of a self-identified Nazi collaborator. A time will come when we all will need to identify our loyalties.
Actually of Georges parents both were non practicing Jews, but Georges Mother was actively anti-semitic. So the Georges hatred of Jews and his lake of compassion as he “fingered” them for the camps and confiscated their goods gave him fulfilment and a strong feeling of power. Power is addictive and it appears he has spent the rest of his miserable life obtaining and using that power. I personally think he is equally culpible as the Kapo’s of the camps.
There are some denominations whose rabbis are all bogus, the kind whose primary religion is liberalism and not traditional Judaism.
Who are you , a typical ignorant right wing Christian, to judge who is a real rabbi or not>
I’m a lifelong atheist and when I see someone supporting a Nazi collaborator I have no doubt in my mind that they are not a true Jew …
What is your excuse for their behavior and how does that fit into being a real Jew …
Please explain since I assume you consider yourself qualified to judge based on your “typical ignorant right wing christian” comment … (by the way I’m almost certain you have never met a christian you didn’t think was right wing and ignorant) …
I’m Jewish, you twit. This crowd wouldn’t recognize the traditional Torah viewpoint if they ever saw it.
@ Randellin
I’ll be charitable and assume you’re speaking from ignorance here. Google the phrase “progressive judaism”. They lump themselves in with Reform and Reconstructionists, but true progressive temples are out there, too. They have mostly abandoned the theology in favor of congregation-based community organizing (incidentally, the Soros-funded group that sponsored this letter calls for this, too) to advance a variety of left-wing causes.
You got to love all these right wingers calling everyone they disagree with Nazis, while they employ the classic anti-semitic trope ala Rothschilds to demonize Soros. If that fat, overpaid doughboy Beck was around in Nazi Germany, my bet he would be a willing follower of Adolph, just like most the jerkwads here on the site
Beck called Soros and Nazi collaborator because … wait for it … this is the good part … that is what Soros says he was …
It is you on the left who falsely accuse those you disagree with …
you talk like you consider yourself a member of the master race more than anyone here …
“If that fat, overpaid doughboy Beck was around in Nazi Germany, my bet he would be a willing follower of Adolph …”
Leaving aside the problem of refuting a counterfactual, the plain reality is it’s today’s Leftists (Progressives, Marxists, or whatever name they go by) who are calling for faster trains to Auschwitz. “Auschwitz” today being the suicide-vests of Hamas and the centrifuges of Iran. All in the name of “humanitarianism” and “helping the oppressed Palestinians,” of course.
The Left/Islam alliance is the mortal enemy of today’s Jews everywhere. Any Jewish leader who doesn’t recognize this fact is part of the problem.
Great post, Ziontruth.
It’s not only now that the left is the where the danger is. The Nazi party “National SOCIALIST Party” doesn’t sound like a right leaning group to me.
Hi there, GOOD!
I think, in a level-headed look, Nazism had some left-wing characteristics and some right-wing ones. It’s an indicator as to how the Left/Right classification of political views isn’t always helpful.
The Left today isn’t the Left of, say, 50 years ago. There was once a patriotic Left, which, though one might find their views of economics disagreeable, were as different as can be from the other Left that took over in Gramsci’s “Long March Through The Institutions.” In the course of the 1960s, Marxism ousted the older, patriotic Left, resulting in today’s situation that “Leftist” is usually synonymous with “anti-nationalist, anti-Western, anti-Zionist.”
Unfortunately, American Jews today seem unaware that today’s Left isn’t the same Left their parents or grandparents knew from the days of FDR, HST and JFK. If they knew today’s Left is of the same kind that kept the Jews of the Soviet Union under lock and key, I doubt they’d stay Democrat.
Me, people would call me a right-winger. I accept this label, but I note that I’m considered a right-winger mainly because the ousting of the patriotic Left has caused pretty much every nationalist nowadays to belong to the Right, by definition. My nationalism is, of course, derived from the Torah, which assumes the reality of nationhood and the right to a nation-state by default.
In fact, Der Spiegel revealed recently that Hitler had been shortly a memeber of German Communist Party when it had declared the Bavaria a Communist Republick right after the WW1.
His greatest (initially) pal, Ernst Roehm was also a dedicated and rabid commie, however with extreme nationalistic and above all anti-semitic flavour.
That anti-semitic flavour was the major factor that drove Hitler away from the commies into the arms of NAZIS.
Appart from that, later on the German Commies have received specific order from Stalin to collaborate with NAZIS in their drive to destroy the Weimar Republic.
Good posts,ZionTruth.
“The Left/Islam alliance is the mortal enemy of today’s Jews everywhere.”
Amen!
Look at who you’re shilling for – monsters. As a leftist, you’re a worshipper in the same chuch of slaughter and atrocity as Mao, Pol Pot, Che Guevara, Castro, Chavez, and the old Soviet monsters. That’s the pedigree of your ideas, such as you have them. You are unfit to live in a free society.
I don’t have much use for the left right paradigm…you’re either a totalitarian, an anarchist or somewhere in-between.
Don’t have much use for reality, either, do you?
I would guess that Beck, if he was the same man with the same character, would have been one of the ” Righteous Gentiles ” who risked their lives to save others. Just me opinion of course but I am as entitled to mine as you are to yours.
Menachem Ben Yakov,
Well said, I agree 100%.
Randellin, you must be a far left loon, or you have been deprived of attention while a child. Which one is it? My experience is that people who spew forh venom such as yours are usually guilty of that which they accuse others of.
HEY , Randellin , What size uniform do you take ????
As a Jew I’m disgusted,not only with Soros also with so called
Rabbis. My Uncle and his son were saved by a Catholic woman who hid them in the basement of her Paris apartment, and this sub human “SOROS” has no regrets for what he has done. We need more
Beck’s to unearth people like Soros.
There were 14 year old boys in the Jewish partisan underground. He has no excuse.
I am glad you brought up this point. I remember hearing about the partisans in Poland on the radio news during WWII. My mother would tsk tsk about the bravery of these young fighers.
Precisely. And at least from the old (Catholic) Baltimore Catechism, we were taught that the age of reason is 7 years old.
And the utter lack of remorse signals a conscience defect shared by sociopaths.
WoW Soros has a front group for everything.
Along the same lines as these Rabbis. Any Jew that does not support private ownership of firearms does not know history, and it would be dishonest of any of these fools to look to Israel for salvation. They are deluded if they expect any government to protect them and who may I as ask would they expect to protect them from a government?
Right-on. And as a friend said long ago (so the rank may be slightly off by now), “gun-owning Americans constitute the second largest standing army in the world.” And it’s quite possible that in less time than anyone would have imagined possible in the not so distant past, we may all have cause to be d**n glad of that facy.
I thought Rabbis were supposed to be scholars?
Here is the Beck quote they site in today’s WSJ:
George Soros, who as a child in Hungary survived the Holocaust by living with a non-Jewish family “used to go around with this anti-Semite and deliver papers to the Jews and conciscate their property and then ship them off. And George Soros was part of it. He would help confiscate the stuff. It was frightening. Here’s a Jewish boy helping send the Jews to the death camps.”
Make of it what you will.
That quote,sounds like one I would put in on behalf of Mr Beck.
Here are the quotes on Roger Ailes in today’s WSJ:
There are some “left-wing rabbis who basically don’t think anyone can use the word ‘Holocaust’ on the air”
“(NPR)are, of course, Nazis. They have a kind of Nazi attitude. They are the left-wing of Nazism.”
I saw that. Indeed, not smart of Ailes – especially since he has the facts on his side. Soros’ Holocaust history and his reaction to it are quite repellent, as is his attitude toward the state of Israel.
But of course…. as I am sure you will agree… the subject of Ailes is slightly off point here. He over-reacted to an attack on his personnel. Bad, but no big deal. Soros, on the other hand, participated in on one of the most horrific events in human history and expresses no regret for it. The child, we know, is father of the man. And the man went on to participate in the tanking of the British pound. Is this someone you want to defend?
And the man went on to participate in the tanking of the British pound. Is this someone you want to defend?
-there is much i don’t want to defend in Soros. His attitude towards Israel, for example, outrages me. But I’d like to know what is wrong with tanking the British pound (honestly). The idea that some evil man can, though his machinations alone, determine, over the long term, the market value of a currency strikes me as a fantasy which, one must point out, reminds one of Judeophobic constructs (though I doubt Roger saw it this way when writing, there is a common pattern of otherwise free-market believers sounding like anti-market conspiracy theorists when it comes to Soros). It seems to me that free markets have a great capacity to blow bubbles, to over-build the value of things and their capacity to service debt through complex pyramids of financing in which everyone on the bullish bandwagon wants a piece. From time to time some bastard, whom everyone forever after hates, can call the market and make a fortune by shorting it if he can help turn the market’s understanding of cold reality at the time he makes his bet. But that can only work, beyond any short-term manipulation of information, if the market comes to see it has blown a bubble. Still, irrationally, one hates the man who showed this to the market and ruined the party. But where’s the proof he deluded the market with false information on the pound?
In other words, i think the British pound was overvalued as the aging, de-industrializing country sought more and more rent through financial gymnastics; it was just a matter of time when this was going to become clear. Those who reveal bubbles sooner rather than later are doing a service even if they enrich themselves in the process, because it is better for those invested in a bubble to take their tough medicine sooner rather than letting the bubble grow.
In my understanding, for what it’s worth, Soros is a man with an obsessive need to prove he is some kind of theoretical genius and that his theory of the markets necessarily means we need more government regulations of various kinds. He is so obsessed by this that, in my reading of the Kroft interview, he stupidly thinks he can use even the story of his youth to help make a point about the amorality of markets; he claims a lack of guilt for going along with a Nazi official confiscating property to support his more important (in his mind) claim: his lack of guilt for making billions by shorting markets. This is all in service of pointing out the larger amorality of markets, their tendency to irrational behaviour in which one can only play along with the irrationality, and try to get the better of it, or get killed, lacking any kind of larger political restraint on that irrationality. His sin is that he cares more about his theory of markets and his political ideology that seeks government control than he does about thinking seriously about the Holocaust or the deeper relationships between the political and economic.
If “the Jew” is blamed as the conspiring reality behind the invisible hand of the marketplace, Soros’ response is “don’t blame me for being smart; there is no conspiracy but rather a lack of one; when we all conspire to have government control the markets, there will be no need for Judeophobia, and I will just be like everyone else. In a way, he is denying a need for people like himself, or for exceptional nations like Israel and the US. Soros is Judeophobic in response to the Judeophobia directed at him. What he feels guilty about is being a guy who made billions shorting the market.
If that interpretation is right, Soros’ sin is confusing questions of morality and human freedom. If you look at other SOros interviews, you see that the man is a really poor verbal communicator, defensive and unable to explain himself in a quick and easy way; gets lost in his thought. He says stupid things. So he resorts to writing long essays in the NYRB.
But, whatever his many faults and his confused ideas about guilt, i cannot fault a man/boy for surviving unless one can show that his survival required him to do violence to others. We have no evidence one way or the other. For what it’s worth, here is how Soros’s lawyer explains his wartime youth. Survival is the greatest moral imperative. He might have been a hero and saved lives; but being a coward with just enough courage to survive alone is not enough to damn a man, or boy. He needs to be criticized for the lessons he has drawn, not for what he did or didn’t do during the Holocaust, unless we come to know more about that.
So, you’re saying that George Soros, because of a lack of communications skills was unable to say “I deeply regret my involvement in those terrible events.”
I cannot believe you’re pushing that line of reasoning, or lack thereof.
By the time that interview rolled around, Soros, if he had even an ounce of conscience and introspection, would have figured out an acceptable answer.
I will give Mr. Soros credit, though. Soros could have lied. Soros didn’t lie and now we know the kind of person Mr. Soros is.
So, you’re saying that George Soros, because of a lack of communications skills was unable to say “I deeply regret my involvement in those terrible events.”
-no, of course he was able to. What I’m saying is that it didn’t occur to him, that he was so obsessed with using his life story to make some point about the markets so that he had no idea how callous he sounded to others. He is clueless about his own self-image, which speaks to his faults. But it’s one thing to know what kind of person he is; it’s quite another to blame him for surviving by becoming an errand boy for officials. The more you indulge in the latter, the less, i think, you will know the former. I regret the way people turn market shorters into evil conspirators. In Soros’ case, that’s to miss the point, i think.
Well said truepeers.
Your essay sure stirred things up, but getting back to the original point, your quotation citation conjured eerie memories of the Nuremberg defenses of just following orders and just doing a job.
What a putz, that George Soros. He was saved from the Holocaust by a seemingly compassionate human being, and yet he has no regrets, no sense of guilt for what happened all around him.
The rabbis are simply beyond my understanding. As someone has already observed “money talks.”
The Jews of the left need to wake up to the real threat of their love of socialism and its tyrants not bury their heads in the sand like they did with Hitler.
For the rabbis, it seems to break down like this:
George Soros is a Jew
Glenn Beck is not
Since Glenn Beck attacked George Soros and mentioned the fact that he’s a Jew, then Glenn Beck must be guilty of being an anti-Semite.
That’s all the facts they need to know. Doesn’t matter about specifics, and truth is irrelevant. All that matters is the above framework.
Let’s disregard, for instance, that Soros is dismissive of his Jewish heritage and doesn’t practice the faith. Let’s disregard that the statements made by Beck were based on the 60 Minutes interview Soros gave where he freely spoke about his activities during the war — and not only showed no remorse, but said someone else would’ve done it if he hadn’t.
If anyone was exploiting the Holocaust in all this, it rather sounds like it was Mr. Soros…
I’m sure I read somewhere that Mr Beck was Jewish.
Excuse me, but my experience with left-wing “progressive Rabbis” is that the fellow Jew is the very last person they will stand up for. It’s simply too risky – someone might call them “racist!”
And every other race, family, religion, club and nationality out there knows how to speak out for their own without any shame at all.
None of the Rabbis I rub elbows with would even relate vaguely to whatever is motivating those folks. I hope they see that they are just libs using their title “Rabbi” to make a splash. Nice going, George.
Beck is not the point. Ailes is not the point.
The point is, …Soros has a history of being involved with the tearing down of whole societies. He has been on the “tear apart” side, it appears, the whole of his life.
American society and the manner in which it has historically conducted its affairs, as well as the UK, Italy, Malaysia, Argentina…everywhere the hand of Soros appears…slamming down on the economy.
Soros believes in destroying…for personal gain and for transformation into an Open Society…or one world governance.
He, like William Ayers and Robert Reich…believe that the older generation, those who “hold onto life too long”…clog up the voting booths with too many votes against revolution.
So, they should die. And, the “health system” should work to help them die.
(it’s so much easier, if the government controls which people get care, how much, and what efforts should be made to assist them. Even more pertinent, whether assistance should be expended to help them live…or expended to help them die)
So, Soros is not only a currency speculator…who admittedly does not have a single moral reaction to crashing economies under his boot, he is a life speculator. He learned to block out emotion when he was profiting from “pretending” to be a Nazi. Treasure stolen and life snuffed out was all in a day’s events.
He is a pariah in Italy, France, Britain, Malaysia, Russia. But he is a hero at the NYTimes, MSNBC and HuffPo.
The bad news about Soros is that he wants to destroy America and Israel. But, in point of actual fact, he wants to destroy every government, including China. He wants them all to fall.
And, then be placed under one umbrella.
Frankly, he’s more open about it then the liars who follow his lead.
Beck’s remarks about Soros’ history were part of his larger discussion of what George Soros is doing, which is exactly what you mention here.
Soros is all about destroying the lives of people. He gets a kick out of it, and has said so, in interviews.
When he’s brought down currencies, he’s done so without regard to the hardships this will bring to the average citizen. None of that means anything to him.
He’s been a stone-cold psychopath his entire life.
At the very least it would indicate an inkling of humanity
As RogerS beat me to the point above, this man Soros makes his living shorting nat’l currencies and thereby immiserating those nations’ populations.
And the Left hates Greedy CEOs, sure they do.
Those rabbis made a big mistake spending Soros’ money that way — Glenn Beck likes being “called out” and punching above his weight.
It jacks up his ratings.
Soros was, by his own admission, a Nazi collaborator who made a buck turning over other Hungarian Jews to be shipped off to the gas chambers. The guy he was helping do his little genocidal chores was that noted Nazi war criminal, Adolf Eichmann. Isn’t it amazing that our President invited to the White House a Nazi-collborator (Soros) and a terrorist (Ayers)? Nice company our President keeps, and that doesn’t even mention his contacts over the years with raving anti-Semites like Rev. Wright and Louis Farrakhan. I sense a pattern here. I love the way these rabbis have the chutzpah to accuse Beck of smearing Soros BY QUOTING HIM.
Did you know that all the little boys helped the Germans in other ways, by being their little partner at night.????? Maybe this is what turned Soros into an evil person.I know that if it happened to me,I would never be the same again.
Soros=EVIL!
Well, this should hardly be surprising. Number one, Soros was fifteen when he collaborated. Hardly a child – especially at that time. So I see no problem in treating him as an adult and holding him responsible for his choices. Certainly younger children than he saw and correctly understood the monstrous evil that Hitler’s regime espoused. I believe he knew exactly what he was doing – just as he is doing here in this country. He has cold-bloodedly chosen sides. Soros is a master manipulator who cares nothing save for himself. He is the ultimate case of egotism. And he has identified with the political party that is most likely to make him richer since his wealth is built on destroying others to enrich himself.
He chose to collaborate with the Nazis to save his investment in his skin. Here, he has chosen once again to collaborate with the party of Big Government despotism in order to enrich himself. Never mind that his choice seeks many of the same economic objectives as did the Nazis. The Democratic party desires government control of industry – precisely what the Nazis sought. Democrats desire the opposition to be silenced – so did the Nazis. And Democrats play favorites – they are the party of crony capitalism far more than the Republicans. Look at GE, Google, the UAW, the SEIU and all the others who have benefited from their policies.
Ultimately, Soros has correctly identified the party that is most likely to make him richer. And we can use this identification and Soros’ own history as well – it tells us far more about the Democrats than perhaps they would like us to know. As for the rabbis, Stalin described them best. Useful idiots.
You left out ACORN and the teachers’ unions.
Speaking of Soros-related things that have been scrubbed from the internet, Soros’ 1998 60 Minutes interview with Steve Kroft that Mr. Simon excerpts from has been effectively scrubbed. Video of the interview was readily available on YouTube before YouTube became part of Google. And various other articles and blog posts that discussed Soros’ Nazi-helping past were easily found in all corners of the net.
But now no video of the interview exists, and the only reputable source of such information is the transcript from Sweetness and Light that Mr. Simon links to. Of course, the Snopes entry that purportedly “debunks” Soros’ Nazi past comes up first in nearly every search one conducts for the terms “Soros” and “Nazi” or “World War II.” That’s not surprising, since Soros funds Snopes.
Politics and morality aside, you’ve got to hand it to Soros: not only does he manipulate markets and currencies like no other, he does the same with the internet. That would be impressive for anyone, let alone for an octogenarian. Thirteen year old hackers of the world eat your hearts out!
Funds Snopes…any evidence of that, not that I doubt it. I have a deep seated suspicion of anyone in the hedge fund industry, and not out of ignorance and lack of contact.
The “rabbis” who are so offended by Beck exposing Soros’s youthful Nazi collaboration are clearly not offended in the least by the fact the adult Soros has no remorse for his anti Jewish and very harmful actions against Jews. Makes me wonder if these so called “rabbies” are actually anti Jewish at heart since Soros’s lack of remorse for his very evil actions against Jews is simply unforgivable.
Trent Lott was evicerated by Democrats and some Republicans when he made a comment about Strom Thurmond during a speech at a commerative dinner. Anytime a conservative makes a comment or gaffe, it is spread over the news with the same speed and devastation as a tsunami.
Yet, Soros was a Nazi errand boy, fully understanding what he was doing and admitted he felt nothing wrong about his actions. Robert Byrd was an active member of the KKK, yet he was lionized by Democrats during a similar function as the one for Strom Thurmond.
A Democrat can say anything, make a weak apology and the matter is dropped – instantly, never to be resurrected again. A Republican will wear the scarlet letter forever and it will never be forgotten by the press.
Soros should have been tried as a collaborator, not treated as a victim by the offspring of the very people he helped rob and ultimately, sent to death camps.
Maybe this explains why Soros has no morals or sense of honor when it comes to bankrupting small nations by manipulating their currency as he did with the English pound sterling among others.
Compassion may be his public persona but underneath the surface, away from the public eye, beats the heart of a cold, unfeeling, profane little man.
His admitted actions remind me of a quote .
“It is better to die on your feet than live on your knees.” Talmud.
Just wondering. Have the good rabbis ever paid $100,000 to the WSJ to print an ad condemning the American abortion industry? Hypocrites. Ignorant, arrogant, stupid, lying, left-wing hypocrites. Redundancies, I know.
God’s word says a thing or two about the additional punishments that await false teachers.
Thank you, Roger Simon, for your article criticizing the ad by rabbis in the Wall Street Journal attacking Glenn Beck for saying what is true about George Soros, that he aided the Nazis in Hungary during World War II and has expressed no regret for it. Glenn Beck was right. This is the same George Soros who is anti-Israel and funds J Street, the anti-Israel organization which pretends to be pro-Israel. Were these rabbis funded by Soros himself?
I haven’t seen this idea expressed here so you’ll have to excuse me if someone has covered this.
I can forgive the young George Soros for his act of self-preservation. What 14 year old would happily march off to God knows what when he’s been given sanctuary? But his callous reflections as an adult man of having no guilt whatever seems disingenuous. Either that or he was a callous 14 year old young man. In which case this man hasn’t had real ‘heart’ in all his life. I feel sorry (sort of) for his lack of compassion for his fellow man. It’s obvious he has none now – and apparent he may have been this way for most of his life. But I will give the young Soros the benefit of doubt.
I guess we never know what we would do if our lives were on the line, but I would hope that I would not act in a way that would shame me when all was said and done. It seems to me that Soros just took the path of least resistance, he looked out for himself in a dangerous world. That I might understand, if he was not such a snot for the rest of his life. If anything, it should make him more aware of the need to find redemption.
Don’t ever say that to a Vietnam Vet. I was over there and you soon find out what you would do. It’s a pity there were so many escape vehicles for the guys like drugs and booze. It stopped a lot of them finding out a lot about themselves.
Probably the same ones who “officiate” at gay marriages. They are a plague.
There are millions of us that watch and listen to Beck. It should not have been difficult for Soros to find 400 rabbi’s to sign a petition in America the Jews have voted as a block vote for the Democrats last 75 years. Which party does Soros back and spend millions on their left wing agenda. Duh!!!!
I forgot one thing the Jews love Obama and his left wing socialist agenda and Soros does also. Just another attack on the move American voters is making to become conservative and reduce the size of government. Fox tell them to stuff it.
another anti semite heard from.
Yup, the old ‘anti-Semite card!”
Whether or not he is anti-Semite is irrelevant. Can you deny that what he is saying the truth.
Schrodinger’s Brain.
The Jews have always been horrible judges of character. Ever since they left Egypt they have been led astray by wicked men, both among their kindred and outside it. They persecuted the Prophets and heeded the false prophets, even helping their enemies plot their destruction. Yet even when their apostasy and iniquity provokes God to punish them, He is always mindful of the covenant with their fathers, and so each time Israel is brought under the judgment of God, it always carries with it the promise of mercy yet to come. Oh Israel, can you not see the signs of the times? The days the prophets spoke of when your Lord will renew His marriage covenant with you are close at hand! Repent, therefore, and prepare for the coming of the Lord!
Thus sayeth the Lord, “I will send the prophet Elijah before the great and terrible Day of the Lord, to turn the hearts of children to their fathers and fathers to their children, lest the people perish.”
another anti semite heard from – preach in church not here!
As a politically conservative Jew for nearly the last 30 years, I have felt the slings and arrows of my liberal friends and relatives on so many occasions that I have become nearly numb to their mostly laughably bad arguments and not infrequent personal attacks regarding political matters.
I occasionally watch Glenn Beck and find him to be almost always a quite careful researcher and quite accurately informative, especially for people previously ignorant of both our own national history and the underpinnings of Progressive Socialism, its ties to both the contemporary Democratic Party(and sometimes even the Republican Party as well)and its adherents’ “long march” through so much of the cultural and academic institutions of the nation. His delivery and style may be too hokey and melodramatic at times, but then I’m not sure he could hold on to the attention of some of his audience for long enough to make some of his best arguments if it wasn’t.
I believe George Soros is a hollow man. I believe that whatever once was the place where his real flesh-and-blood human compassion lay is now an empty chamber, evacuated by a shame he can and will never acknowledge. And, I believe he has spent the balance of his life – since the time of his admitted and undeniable collaboration with some of the most virulently evil men in history, serving them in punishing his “fellow” Jews without remorse to save himself – trying to fill that hole with the only thing that matters to him now, the will to power. It is power over men’s live he feels he must have to justify the enormous injustices to which he had contributed against what were his own people, his neighbors and his neighbors’ neighbors. I think that he feels that if only he can collect enough power, that at some point he can reshape society and man himself, as though a demigod with hedge fund wealth in place of those ancient powers of the Olympians, and finally put to rest an angst that has never yet receded; at last he would be able to hold his head high in the universal admiration and gratitude due him that once would have been reserved for only a half-mortal son of Zeus. All past sins forgotten, all praise to the forger of a brave new world. Of course, my speculation, if accurate, would reflect a particularly nasty and dangerous megalomania, and that is precisely what I believe Mr. Soros is indeed suffering from and is the danger that he and his like-minded allies pose for the rest of us. I don’t want his brave new “open society.” The one we have now, the one I’d only like to see allow even more freedom for the individual, is just fine.
If Beck can help to forestall the trajectory of Mr. Soros’ ambition by telling his life story, then by all means steam ahead Mr. Beck. I have never seen, felt or heard anything from Beck to hint at even a shade of anti-Semitism, much less an outright expression of it. To the contrary, Beck seems, if anything, almost philo-Semitic and very pro-Israel to boot.
So, I come to the apparently Soros-funded organization to which the group of very left leaning Rabbis has signed on, in their claims of becks “constructive” anti-Semitism. Only one emotion comes to me at such a time – shame. Shame that those who have supposedly dedicated their lives to the continuation of the covenant of Abraham and Moses, plus the religion and history of our common forefathers, would stoop to trade those thousands of years of joy and sacrifice, of adherence to God and the commandments and examples He has bequeathed to us, for the cheap bauble of a transient campaign to help a morally corrupt billionaire defame a politically opposed commentator in order to help bring about a world-wide Progressive Utopian Socialist chimera which should never, and hopefully will never, be pressed upon the free people – Jews and Gentiles alike – of this great country. Shame on you Rabbis. May God eventually grant you the wisdom to understand that you have confused your personal political activism, an activism that resembles nothing but the same political beliefs held by some of the worst Statist enemies of Jews and Judaism in history, with your duties to God and your congregations. Faster, please.
Regards,
David
Thank you, well said. I only wish that he would deny that he is jewish. We only have his word for it and as I wrote earlier he may be claiming to be a jew to avoid charges of being a nazi.
And, I believe he has spent the balance of his life – since the time of his admitted and undeniable collaboration with some of the most virulently evil men in history, serving them in punishing his “fellow” Jews without remorse to save himself – trying to fill that hole with the only thing that matters to him now, the will to power.
Exactly right. For Soros and those like him in our modern times, it ceased to be about money a long time ago – if it ever was.
I’m presently working on a book, Killers Without Conscience, and the path I’ve taken with the book so far is that there are two streams of thought, two memes, really that converged with disastrous results in the last two hundred years.
First of all, we have a set of ideas that lead to what I characterize as the dehumanization of humanity. The signal authors of those ideas : Marx. Freud, B.F. Skinner and Nietzsche. We find examples of their contemporaries in the likes of Emanuel Ezekiel, John Holdren and Cass Sunstein. Not to put too fine a point on it, the main recurrent theme in their works is that humans are nothing more than things, animals or machines. Some of them have said as much. We can all understand the downside of that particular view. The history of the last century alone is proof enough.
Nietzsche’s role in this particular stream of thought is both remarkable and crucial. To sum up a fair amount of research, the notion of God – the force that move men and nations the source of our conscience and our notions of right and wrong – was increasingly seen as an invention, a fantasy – and also as an impediment to human ‘progress’ by these modern thinkers. But Nietzsche saw God not as an invention, but as a casualty. He wrote in 1886: “The greatest event in recent times – that ‘God is Dead,’ that the belief in the Christian God is no longer tenable – is beginning to cast its first shadows upon Europe.” The Christian God, he wrote, would no longer stand in the way of the development of the New Man who Nietzsche said would be ‘beyond good and evil’. Nietzsche knew that in Europe, the decline of religion as a guide to conscience and morality would leave a huge vacuum. Who or what would fill that vacuum?
As Nietzsche saw it, the most likely candidate would be what he called the ‘Will to Power,’ which he felt offered a better and more persuasive explanation of human behavior than either Marx or Freud. In place of religious belief, there would be secular ideology. The very concept of good and evil would be discarded as the product of weak and inferior minds. Our notions of good and evil would disappear in the wake of what he characterized as the ‘transvaluation of all values.’
But above all, Nietzsche believed that the Will to Power would produce a new kind of messiah, uninhibited by religious sanctions, without moral restraint of any kind, and with an unappeasable and insatiable appetite for controlling mankind.
Then we have the uniquely destructive meme dedicated to the undermining of culture in order to weaken it, destroy it, and replace it with a totalitarian system. All as proposed by Antonio Gramsci in his call for the ‘long march through the institutions.’ This idea has been echoed, amplified and modified over the decades by the likes of Herbert Marcuse (repressive tolerance), Saul Alinsky, and the Cloward-Piven duo. The aims of this particular set of monsters are best exemplified by a banner I once saw at a leftist-anarchist demonstration – Burn the old world to reveal the new. Eerily echoed in a line from The Dark Knight: “Some men just want to watch the world burn…”
And some men, driven by the geas of the will to power would rather rule in hell from atop a heap of rubble and corpses than leave the rest of us alone to live in peace and prosperity. A new feudalism (or worse) and a world lit only by fire will suit them just fine as long as they believe that they will be the ones in the high castle. Most of us dead. The rest of us in chains. Their vision demands it.
The research I’ve done leads me to believe that the convergence of these two very bad – and downright evil – lines of thought, now running as memes within Western civilization have provided the perfect vehicle, the perfect operating environment for an even worse outbreak of ruin and slaughter than we have seen in the last century. Crossing those streams, as Dr. Spengler once said to Dr. Venkman, would be very bad. And so it has been. That convergence plays directly into the hands of the will-to-power driven monsters that I’ve characterized as Killers Without Conscience.
Worst of all, and if history’s any indicator, what’s coming as a result of that convergence has the potential to make the worst excesses of the last century look like a Girl Scout picnic by comparison. Monsters like Soros and those behind 0bama will see to it.
Unless we here in America stop it. Because no one else will.
Whether or not anyone here actually knows what george soros actually thinks or feels about the holocaust or his “role” in it (hint: you actually don’t), I really think some people need to have a lie down and stop letting their hatred corrode their grasp on reality.
Collaborator? No. He wasn’t a collaborator. He posed as the step-son of a guy who WAS a collaborator, but he had no say in that. The claim that he was a “courier” for the “judenrat” needs to be backed up with a wee bit of evidence, which so far has been entirely missing from the claim.
The comment above who claimed that soros “made a buck” out of collaborating with nazis is downright obscene.
The irony is that most of you clowns will now go and get furious about some relatively trivial comment about sarah palin.
My God, you’re one of the dumbest trolls to appear on this site yet. What on Earth does Sarah Palin have to do with the subject under discussion? Your comments are one non sequitur after another. You are so intellectually out of your depth here it’s almost funny.
The subject under discussion is the smearing of an individual that those on the right don’t happen to like. The smearing is based on the most flimsy evidence, stretched out of all proportion. You take a 14 year old in the care of a public official and turn him into a nazi collaborator, helping the extermination of jews and “making a buck” out of it. It’s an obscene libel, and done for nothing more than political motives.
The sarah palin comparison is relevant because it highlights your hypocrisy. PJM spent over a week hyperventilating over the merest suggestion of responsibility on her part for the motivation of a shooter. You went nuts at the thought that somebody could even suggest that her choice of metaphors might be inappropriate in a peaceful democracy, and no attack on her critics was too unhinged.
And yet you guys want to turn soros into a full-fledged, holocaust-responsible nazi just because he gives money to causes you don’t like.
See how hypocrisy works?
And you were pretty dumb to walk face-first into that, so maybe I’m not the dumbest troll here after all.
Wow.
Most trolls only try to sell the Soros “Rat-Feces” Perfume.
You drink it.
Let’s see, bright boy:
Soros actually collaborated with the Nazis. Maybe being young was an excuse, but he *did* do it.
Sarah Palin clearly had absolutely *nothing* to do with an attack carried out by a deranged psychopath.
The only connection is in your Palin-obsessed mind. I thought you guys succeeded in making her irrelevant two years ago, what happened? You are as obsessed with her as antisemites are with Jews.
Wow. Really? Psychopath? I thought he was supposed to be a paranoid schizo. Which is it? And when did it become ok to jump to conclusions based on flimsy (or no) evidence? Is it ENTIRELY based on which ‘side’ you’re on?
Meanwhile, define ‘collaborate’. And think carefully before answering, lest you damn the victims of the holocaust along the way.
Go have another bong hit and a Vegemite sandwich, Matty-boy. No one’s buying what you’re selling – shilling for monsters.
What’s this stepson bit.There are no five year olds reading this. The boys were primarily their little HO’s.Read it and believe it.
That was actually ‘Four-hundred LIBTARD rabbis’…
and i like to think i have a pretty good what is right and what is wrong, but i really don’t know what would have been the right thing to do in that instance. refuse to go? what does that accomplish other than risking my own life? protesting it? what does that do other than end my own life and risk the life of the family who risked theirs to save mine? is there a “right” thing to do? is there a “scum” thing to do? i really don’t know.
but i do think i have a pretty good handle on whether or not a grandstanding microphone jockey did the right thing by calling him a nazi collaborator.
Daniel, I think you maybe be missing the point. None of us know how we would have reacted if faced with the reality of the Holocaust. Although we might like to think we would have had the courage of a freedom fighter, it’s hard to judge Soros too harshly for protecting himself at age 14. The problem is that he claims to have NO GUILT AS AN ADULT for having escaped the horror and/or death so many of his fellow Jews endured. That is what perplexes and repels, not the initial act. Please reread the transcript.
Riiight … so does this reasoning apply to ALL jewish WWII survivors who aren’t wracked with guilt? Or just the ones who give money to moveon.org?
I was born in a DP camp and as a child my mother (O”BM) who was in Auscwitz, would tell me stories of her imprisonment and near starvation.
So, yes, the scum sucking son of a bitch should have expressed some guilt, even if only in a fake manner.
And those ‘rabbis’ are really rabbits.
And bye the way Sarah Palin is a patriot and a supporter of Israel, which obviously YOU ARE NOT.
Soros wasn’t just a “survivor”, he collaborated with the Nazis. You’re just lying now, I guess because your arguments are so weak and pathetic. You should do yourself a favor and quit since you are only making a fool of yourself.
“he collaborated with the Nazis”
Prove it. Explain your reasoning. In detail. No, don’t wuss-out and give me a URL, actually spell out what YOU think made him a collaborator.
Then I’ll explain why you’re a patsy.
[Comment to Matthew]
Prove it? No proof is necessary–he admitted it. You really are dense, aren’t you?
Yes, Matthew is dense, and he is a troll, and he will be sure to have the last word here because he thinks the last comment wins. Don’t feed him.
‘Riiight … so does this reasoning apply to ALL jewish WWII survivors who aren’t wracked with guilt? Or just the ones who give money to moveon.org?’
I don’t want to help the thread be steered off topic, but this needs to be said. Matthew, you are disingenuous and dishonest, when not outright lying, in almost every comment you make. Because the site does not meet your expectations of being full of right wing haters and fanatics, you assign false opinions and motivations to the commenters and authors here, and to PJM in general, in order to accuse all and sundry of it anyway. This makes you a calculating liar. That you could imagine that any reader doesn’t see through you…well, I think you really believe that they don’t. Which finally convinces me that you have no good grasp on reality either.
I get that, Roger, but to call him a collaborator is unwarranted and way out of line. Should he feel guilty for surviving? survivor’s guilt is a strange but common reaction – he didn’t cause any deaths. those who suffer survivor’s guilt seldom do. why should he feel guilt for surviving?
there was a practice among nazis to pull a jew and demand that he pick a number – we’ll say 5 – from a line-up, to be shot, or else all 10 would be shot. sometimes they’d even make him kill them. should he feel guilty for having killed them? didn’t he also save five lives?
in any case, is it really for any of us – who can truly not fathom what it is like to live in that situation – to judge? is it for mr. beck to judge?
there are plenty of legitimate criticisms of mr. soros, particularly, i suppose if you disagree with his politics, but this one, sir, is not legitimate.
Soros has repeatedly called 1944 “the best year of his life.”
http://www.canadafreepress.com/index.php/article/14700
As the interviewer rightly points out, the average person would be overwhelmed with intense feelings of guilt, shame, and self-doubt.
To the unemotional sociopathic mind, however, such a situation is merely one simple explanation away from routine.
“Maybe as a child you don’t–you don’t see the connection.”
At age 14, only someone legally classified as a retard (IQ < 70) would fail to see the connection. Pretty sure he's not a retard; so that kinda narrows it down.
“Four-hundred lib rabbis …”
Four hundred – period. Need I remind you that close to 80% of Jewish-Americans voted for the Anointed One, who was sponsored by that POS Soros?
Anyone defending Soros (POS) is worse than him.
George Soros is an evil and treacherous creature whose amorality rivals that of Stalin and Hitler.
George Soros is a human vulture who lives off the dead remains of those victims he helped murder.
George Soros is the worst type of Jewish Leftist, one who only knows loyalty to himself, a Bernie Madoff who steals and betrays and then lives the good life while his victims suffer and die.
There is no fate too cruel, no suffering too inhuman, and no punishment too savage for George Soros, both for his behavior in Prague as a child, and his even more disgusting behavior as an adult.
Amen!
At what age does one pass from childhood to adulthood? Much of my childhood was learning right from wrong and by the age of 6 I knew and I still do. I refuse to knowingly do wrong.
Soros was probably used as a pawn since he was a Jew and was most likely their scout,, and I wouldn’t be afraid to say further that he gained the Jews trust” then turned them in,, to protect him self.. Much like congress is doing to us today with sending our jobs over seas causing people to lose their homes and now Obama with the Going Green,” Obama said he was going to use this green job stimulus to create lots of jobs for Americans then turned around and sent them to China claiming he didn’t know along with the other democrats.. Sorry folks I’m not buying it.” because my beliefs is when one learns a trade he learns it well these congressmen knew full well that most of those jobs were going over seas, and the Democrats also new GE one of their main supporters was going to get their pay back for helping them get elected and of course GE got billions of the stimulus money to create those jobs over seas all paid for by hard working Americans,,, Or can we say the rich of this country Since Obama wants to tax them more could it be some of those rich could gain from the higher taxes by investing in GE or where ever else the stimulus goes…. Just a thought on my part
Soros is a sociopath. He feels no remorse for any of his actions. He is in the same vein as Hitler, Himmler, Stalin, Mao, and the rest of the twentieth Century Dictators and Murders. To excuse him because he was 14 years old and just did these things to survive is no excuse. He profitted in some form or another by assisting in the extermination of the Jews in Hungary. He is a war criminal, maybe a two-bit one, but still one.
And the Rabbis who support him are nothing more than Quislings. They have obviously sold their souls.
48. Tim Ackerman
“Four-hundred lib rabbis …”
Four hundred – period. Need I remind you that close to 80% of Jewish-Americans voted for the Anointed One, who was sponsored by that POS Soros?
…
Don’t be surprised. When G-d took the Jews out of Egypt 80% chose (voted if you will) to stay behind. Assimilation is in our bones.
The group of Rabbis has received about $300,000 from Soros’ in 2009 and 2010.Soros is very active, of course, in destroying Israel, and I can’t help but to think, he wants to be the one to deliver the eviction notice to Israel.
I agree with Mike in Baltimore.Soros is a sociopath.The explanation for why he doesn’t feel any guilt,etc. while saying, “this formed my character,” demonstrates he is amoral.
Is there some cosmic or real connection between young Soros’s job of collecting people’s personal documents and the lack of
(scrubbed, purged, buried) a paper trail of the current occupant of the Oval Office?
Get help.
Soros, a true sociopathic hypocrite-no conscience, in other words, as well as what Glenn Beck has said. Soros admitted he has no guilt himself and no conscience! AMAZING!!! Also, I was a psychiatric nurse for 20 years and know about sociopaths personally.
Whatever one’s occupation happens to be, is no protection from losing your footing when confronting evil. Be they Rabbi, baker or banker, unless they are able to stand in the face of evil, they will end up being devoured by evil.
These Rabbi’s are simply people who have lost their footing, now don’t recognize what has happened to them and have become the mouthpiece of foolishness. Their viewpoints are, of course, upside down from reality. They will continue in this error until they somehow figure it out and return to the Lord.
But pride and arrogrance is always at the forefront and blocking a return. They will have to stand before that evil, before healing will come.
Illuminating, depressing, and very fair. Thank you for sharing this extended excerpt from the 60 Minutes transcript.
Whether or not Beck respects or condemns Soros, the critical issue remains whether we still believe in both the first amendment. Large segments of the American left, like their “progressive” ancestors in the communist movements, have concluded that “hate speech” should be banned. This dangerous, misguided belief – explicitly rejected by Jefferson, Madison, and other founding fathers – can only lead to brutality and tragedy. We must remind Americans that free speech means free speech, not polite, wise, sensitive, or politically correct speech.
Or we will soon face even greater national tragedies.
I have a really terrific idea.
Not so long ago the moron Beck tried on the
SCHTATZ SCHTEIFFEL CAP of the S.S., yessir, that’s where the S.S. comes from, and admired himself in the mirror while wearing this cap. Believe it or not the cap fit perfectly in its size, and somehow it looked to me that he felt as though he belonged in it, at least that’s the way it appeared. He was admiring himself in this cap while on FOX NEWS, his show, and it was repeated on O’Reilly’s show. I propose that just for this evil concept that Beck has of himself, he should be thrown off the Fox News and sent packing back to HEADLINE NEWS, from whence he comes. And if not, that the viewers start a boycott of every commercial product advertised on FOX NEWS. For slamming Soros he does not deserve punishment because that is probably the only good thing that the dope has done in his entire life, aside from giving up dope and alcohol.
The Rabbis ad in the WSJ attacking Beck is truly a waste of good money going after a dumb guy, namely Beck. Somebody should make it clear to the Rabbis that he is not the kind of guy they would want in their SHUL, even with his money.
Soros’ admission of what he did in the internment camps when he was 14 years old
proves to me that the man is psychotic. Any other 14 year old kid WOULD feel tremendous guilt. That he talks about it openly only proves that it cannot remain within him as a secret but must come out as a “clear admission” with which he hopes to clean his conscience. Soros as a 14 year old has carried
forth in his dealings as a 65 year old the same way. He comes first above all else.
Soros should be shunned as though he had a fatal disease. One of these day, i predict, he will use the way of sepiku.
What’s wrong Matthew,no-one believing your stories anymore? You want to boycott Beck,then go ahead and do it.By the sound of it,you already do,but don’t try your BS on this thread. If those on the LEFT don’t watch Beck,then how do you know what he did??????
Why can’t you Libtards remember your lies ???
Matthew? Sorry – wrong poster.
These rabbis are obviously not religious men or they would never spend $100,000 to disseminate a political view, no matter what it was.,
Leftist, liberal reform, rabbis pitching how to vote in temple are the reason I no longer attend services- last straw- the rabbi was selling Obamacare at shul on the High Holidays!
Liberals don’t even watch BECK anyway- have branded him demon for teaching history and about the manipulation of the Dem party by Soros.
Of all the things rabbis should spend money on, it should NEVER be Soros- so many needy JEWS and other causes that money could help, and they choose to shill for a power mad man who has vowed to destroy the USA??? WTH?- who cares about his past- it is his present role that is frightening and antiJEW- His persistent effort to make sure no one publicly opposes Obamanation, is not a JEWISH issue, not even a progressive should support stomping freedom of speech.
As a Jew, the schism between JEWS who are supposed to be united and support each other and ISrael, this schism which inlcudes my family is very painful- but has been eye opening.
Jews have always been divided- get along with Caesar,bend to the will of dictators, don’t make waves or be a Maccabee, fight for your faith, even if you die for it. Much precedent exists in Torah for this division.
We should remember a line from our friends- you will know them by their fruit (cakes)
Yeah, no religious people should ever get involved in politics. I agree. And representatives of a church or synagogue shouldn’t ever spend any money on political activities.
And soros has “vowed to destroy the USA”. Really? Have you got a quote for that? Maybe a video of the “destroy the USA swearing in ceremony”? Do you even realise how ridiculous that claim is?
“Yeah, no religious people should ever get involved in politics. I agree.”
Of course. We want the world to be free for the anti-religious to legislate for others as they wish, without opposition. For which see: Roe v. Wade. 52 million babies murdered, but hey, it’s Separation Of Religion And State.
There’s a reason why Marxists oppose religion, the family and the nation-state, not to mention ferociously those who champion all three, such as Sarah Palin: They know where the most potent resistance to their agenda lies.
eat your words troll boy
“Destroying America will be the culmination of my life’s work.”
http://popgun.wordpress.com/2010/11/12/glenn-beck-vs-george-soros/
these facts as presented by Glenn Beck:
(1) A great many of them are quotes or actual video of George Soros, actually telling people what he wants to do, and what he is doing. Those items of information are not subject to debate – Soros, in effect, admits them.
yup truth just keeps putting pins in that balloon you call a head
George Soros is a wealthy sociopath. He relishes that position and he uses his money to keep it. This type of person will never feel any guilt about anything. He enjoys manipulating weak people with his money and that is what is dangerous about him. What he did as a 14 year old has little to do with the problem with George Soros today.
A Liberal is a liberal, a liberal is a liberal, a liberal is a liberal. There! That should explain George
Soros
Aunty M
Sounds like the beginnin of a joke:
400 Rabbis take out an ad…
Oy!
“The Yid with a Lid” web site is tasking the Rabbi’s whether they had looked at the facts before they affixed their names to that document, he thinks not. Lying about someone and ruining their reputation is one of the worst thing a Jew can do and that is what the “Yid with a Lid” is accusing the 40 Rabbi’s of doing. Apparently none of the Rabbi’s looked into the truth of the matter, a great deal of Soros money was spent in this endeavor.
http://yidwithlid.blogspot.com/search?q=400+rabbis
Just how was Mr. Soros able to become an American Citizen with a felony in France and a background as a Nazi collaborator; how is that possible? He made so much money on that Brazilian Oil Deal that the Treasury helped out with he can do things like denigrating Mr. Beck easily. http://frontpagemag.com/2010/06/22/soros-oil-spill-payoff/
im no soros fan. While i can understand why he did what he did then. the part that he has no regrets and does not feel slightly guilty amazes me. These so called rabbis that support soros, only support the very ‘nazi types’ they claim to hate. What will these rabis do when they wake up one day and realize the man they have been helping has just taken everything? you have a guy who destroys economies for a living. if for 1 look forward to the day when these fools realize how wrong they are, and i will not forgive them or forget. we should cast them out and let them sleep in the traitorous bed they made
Basically, what you are saying Mr. Simon, is that 400 Rabbis are antisemitic. George Orwell would have been impressed. Or perhaps alarmed.
It’s time these rabbis figured out exactly who Israels friends are
At a time when these proud people are facing their most serious threat all of us who support Israel must hold strong. These cruddy rabbis should spend another 100K and apologoze to Glen Beck,and his supporters.