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The Obama administration is now denying U.S. visas to some Israeli scientists who work at that nation’s Dimona nuclear reactor. This startling reversal of traditional policy was reported April 7, 2010, in the Israeli website/newspaper NRG/Maariv (link to the original Hebrew here and to an exclusive Pajamas Media translation here). [Translation corrected, see second update below. -- Ed.]
This could be yet another flashpoint in the increasingly sensitive relations between the administration, the American Jewish community, and Israel. The revelation in Maariv came only a day before the arrival in New York of Tariq Ramadan — controversial grandson of Muslim Brotherhood founder Hassan al Banna — whose visa was reportedly championed by Secretary of State Clinton. Yesterday as well, new rules disavowing the term “Islamic radicalism” were announced by Secretary of Defense Gates.
According to Maariv: “…. workers at the Dimona reactor who submitted VISA requests to visit the United States for ongoing university education in Physics, Chemistry and Nuclear Engineering — have all been rejected, specifically because of their association with the Dimona reactor. This is a new policy decision of the Obama administration, since there never used to be an issue with the reactor’s workers from study in the USA, and till recently, they received VISAs and studied in the USA.”
Israeli defense officials are stating these workers have no criminal records in the U.S. or Israel and have been singled out purely because of their place of employment. Moreover, nuclear materials for the Dimona reactor apparently do not come from the U.S. Zeev Alfasi — head of nuclear engineering at Israel’s Ben Gurion University — states that “the United States doesn’t sell anything nuclear-related to the Dimona reactor, and that means absolutely nothing. Radiation detectors, for example, have to be purchased now in France because the USA refuses to sell these to Israel.”
Pajamas Media contacted the U.S. Department of State concerning this new visa policy toward Israeli scientists. We were told by their press department that federal law prohibits them from discussing individual visa cases.
UPDATE: Others covering this story – Joshua Pundit and Bookworm.
MORE (IMPORTANT): An interesting follow-up to this story has been published by Politico, including a denial by a White House spokesman and an indirect denial from an unnamed Israeli official. The White House denial seems odd given that I was told by a State Department spokesperson that federal law prohibits (see above) discussing individual visa cases. Well, never mind. More importantly the Politico author, Ben Smith, calls the sourcing of the original Maariv article “a bit hazy” when that article quotes Dr. Zeev Alfassi, a professor of nuclear engineering at Ben Gurion University in the Negev, verbatim on the subject. Hazy sourcing? Well, again, never mind. Pajamas Media has sent email to Dr. Alfassi and we will see what he has to say about the matter.
SECOND UPDATE 11 Apr 2010 10:45 PDT: Pajamas Media has received corrections on the translation; the original says some Israelis from Dimona have had their visas denied, rather than all.
Astonishing action. We will soon hear the roar of organized American Jews. “Kissy, kissy my lord President.”, they will say as they sell their votes cheaply to the first Democratic sharpy that approaches them.
Didn’t the Jews see this coming? Why did the majority of them vote for a Muslim president?
So let’s get this straight. It’s OK for Iran to develop nuclear weapons, despite their repeated assertions that once they have them, they will use them; but it’s not OK for Israel to develop nuclear energy for peaceful purposes, despite the obvious fact that if Israel does have nuclear weapons, they have not used them.
Where is the outrage?
Yup Andrew.
It’s never been quite so stark.
Obama eliminates Islam from strategy documents. He breaks with US allies such as the UK. He leaves the Poles and Czechs out to twist in the wind.
But he plays nice with the Bolivarian Nut. He reaches out to Iran, (but not the anti-gov Iranians).
Now combine what he’s doing with these visas with his plans for US nuclear policy.
Can we start asking which side the President is on yet?
And let’s not forget the double and triple insults to eastern Europe:
First we tell the Czechs that they won’t get missile defenses (which were mostly for protection from Iran, not Russia), then we make nice with the Russians, finally we make major nuclear concessions to Russia, and sign the deal in PRAGUE! (Can you say “gift-wrapped” Mr Putin?)
Meanwhile, we make our stanuchest allies into pariahs in DC, deny photo-ops, hustle them out of side entrances, and lecture them on their internal business.
At this point, the best way for Israel to commemorate Obama’s nuke summit would be the nuclear destruction of Iran’s main centrifuge site and a stark warning that the other sites would follow at one day intervals, followed by Teheran itself if they had not renounced nuclear weapons yet.
The best way to deal with the Palestinians is to tell them to get their house in order, and offer them free trade and the US constitution as the tools to “get a life”. Any further attacks upon Israel should be repulsed with full force, and any rockets launched should immediately result in the point of origin being turned into a crater.
Land for peace? HELL NO – Only peace in return for peace!
What can you expect from a president that declared that he is a Muslim.
His concept is to take down USA in order to have his European socialism/communism.
He wants to make USA weak as weak can be. His efforts show us that he totally ignoring the American People.
In other words he is mentally sick with his fanaticism.
I WILL not vote for this clown and I think many democrats will change to the right
Best regards
Capt. Bjorn Gadler
Iran never stated that they want nuclear weapons nor did they say they will use them. Stop spreading lies. Iran has only stated its desire for nuclear energy. Such talk has struck so much fear into Israel’s government that they have started a relentless propaganda campaign to try and drag the US into an Iranian invasion. Thank god this administration hasn’t taken the bait. With another term Bush and the former administration was likely to have invaded Iran. Such a move would severely have crippled the US military and economy. In fact Iran was on the Bush administration’s agenda for war but Iraq turned out to be a much more difficult undertaking than originally thought.
Furthermore the mention of Hassan al Banna and the policy striking “Islamic Radicalism” from reports is not relevant to the article’s topic and is just mudslinging at Obama and the current administration. Why insinuate so strongly? Why not just go all the way and say Obama loves terrorists and hates Israel? Oh that’s because the not so objective internet masses will say it in the comments for the writer.
Increase the Peace, End Fear
Naive much?
What color is the sky on your planet? Crescent green?
Iran is the only country that has publicly stated it will annihilate another country simply because it exists and not as a retaliation for an attack on it. Now get back to the insane asylum you escaped from.
Iran has repeatedly stated their intention to “wipe Israel off the map” so please do us a favor and take a big gulp of kool-aid and go peddle YOUR lies some place else. People here are much better informed than the liberal/statist imbeciles you are used to frolicking with.
Jordan:
Iran may have a way to go before it has a decent capability, but they’re clearly working to create nuclear weapons. Even the IAEA has concluded as much.
http://www.nytimes.com/2010/02/19/world/middleeast/19iran.html
Patience, people. Eight will get you ten that SOME dog gets wagged shortly before the next Presidential election. My money is on Iran.
“Why not just go all the way and say Obama loves terrorists and hates Israel?”
OK, you want it you got it. Obama is a muslim who loves terrorists and hates Israel and Jews.
“Increase the Peace, End Fear”
What I fear is left-wing idiots like you. I fear that you are a high official at the State Department.
> Iran has only stated its desire for nuclear energy.
Oh, well then! What a relief!
For a while there I thought they might have been developing weapons-grade plutonium, but if they said they weren’t, well that settles it.
I bow to your exquisite exhibit of satire.
“Why not just go all the way and say Obama loves terrorists and hates Israel?”
Of course. From Weather Underground to Hama, Obama has shown he loves terrorists. And thug dictators. Democratic allies…not so much.
As for hating Israel…I am sure he holds Israel in the same regard as Great Britain.
“…end the fear”
I fear you may have already reproduced…
Your neglecting to add the sarc tag was inadvertent, right?
WHERE have you been????
dumb sh*t.
How do you manage to type with your head so deep in the sand? I didn’t know that there was internet service to the alternate universe you inhabit. Next time you visit Earth, I suggest you spend some time in Iran.
I am sickened and disgusted with this never ending debacle that this President is spearheading in this country. Israel has had our backs since 1948. They are our only and our best ally in the Middle East. The support and admiration for Israel in this country is overwhelming. Their strength, courage and bravery is unequalled. We can and we will do everything in our power to remove this hypocritical regime that has taken over in this country. I will make this known on every blog I can. Israel – stay strong!
Ever wondered why Iran would need “nuclear energy” while the country of Iran holds underground one of the largest oil reserve known to man?
Frequently I wonder, “Who, exactly, are the useful idiots who make up the 23% who still ‘strongly support’ Obama in the various opinion polls?” Well, Jordan is one.
Jordon is correct. Iran never did say this, this has been totally misconstrued and twisted for propoganda sake. Now would they like to use them against Isarael?
Jordan, what planet did you just arrive from?! You really believe that Iran wants only nuclear energy?? Amazing. Just amazing.
It makes perfect sense for Iran to pursue nuclear energy, to use this clean efficient method of energy production and sell their oil to countries too stupid to develop their own nuclear facilities. That being said it would be naive to believe that they won’t build a bomb. They could allay our fears by allowing open access to all the enrichment sites, even the secret ones that keep popping up.
“It makes perfect sense for Iran to pursue nuclear energy”
No. It doesn’t. If I ran Iran, I think I would focus my resources on building refineries. Currently, they pump oil out of the ground, export it, then reimport it in the form of gasoline. Or, how about developing an industry that is non-energy related to help diversify their economy.
Economically speaking, developing nuclear energy is about the stupidest misallocation of resources I can think of. Geopolitically speaking (or idealogically speaking), well, that’s another story.
A Simple Guy:
Building more refineries and increasing export would lower the price of oil. By limiting production, OPEC keeps prices high.
LOL!! And Florida has no alligators.
Wow! You are ignorant. SO are you saying that the visual proof of uranium refinery construction is wrong? The fact that they have attempted to hide these facilities from the world is a figment of our imagination? So I guess we take Mahmoud Ahmadinejad’s comments that “Anybody who recognizes Israel will burn in the fire of the Islamic nation’s fury” or that “the regime occupying Jerusalem must vanish from the page of time” was taken out of context? So what did he really mean?
Jordan , I want to know where you have been in the last 3 months? Iran’s President “claims” that he intends to use the Nuclear Energy for domestic use ,and yet has a number of components that are used only in warfare.That is not all , He has said on numerous occasions that his goal is to annihilate Israel into non-existence . His motives are pretty clear .The talk among this community is neither based on “scare tactics” nor propaganda in any way,shape or form . Be informed concerning world affairs . You can’t believe everything that is written , but when the context is verbatim ,it is difficult to come away with any other opinion than what is stated. I don’t think it is propaganda when rockets that have been launched into Israel are marked,dated and piled up as proof to show the world exactly how many rockets were launched into Israel on a daily basis. I saw them personally and it is unnerving to know that there is such ignorance about actual events that have been and are taking place on a daily basis. You don’t hear about that news.It is funny that you would even conveniently ignored the real news. To date ,the “so called” Palestinians have never honored a Peace Treaty Agreement yet. They have historically broken every truce to date . Israel has given land back to these people thinking that it would help,but it will never be enough for the blood-thirsty extremists, at least not enough until Israel is Ethnically cleansed , and believe me when I tell you ,that will never happen.As far as economically crippling of our country, Obama’s first year in office has multiplied the Bureaucracy instead of “streamlining it as he promised.He complained about Bush’s outlandish spending and Obama has spent and literally thrown money away on earmarks and his historic Health Care debacle and in the short time that he has been in office he has outspent Bush 3 times or more over than what it took Bush to do in 8 years! I don’t think I could word it any better than you did. You are right! It would seen that Obama does favor the Muslim and Islamic points of view and has pulled no punches in his dealings with Israel . All I can say is that he will answer to a higher power for his prejudice. For our part, we may have to deal with him,like it or not, but he and his cronies know that their time is short and Obama will only be a one-term President. That is the good news.
It has been obvious for years, since the secret development was discovered, that Iran was determined to have nuclear weapons. Peaceful power is just a cover.
The outrage is in the whitehouse
I expect the outrage over Obama’s muslim sympathizing and his other unAmerican schemes to be evident this November when the silent majority roars.
There is no outrage because no one has been told about it,the slime ball half breed Muslim comunnist presidentand his commrades have held back the news from the people with the help of the socialist media that only prints what premier Ovomit tells them to print. Socialist secretary of the state Clinton is a backstabing low life propaganda artist covering the premiers hate for Jewish people that all Muslims have,it would not surprise me to see a declaration of war by the Ovomit administration against Isreal if they try to defend themselves against Iran. This lying bunch of communist Muslim Islamist Jihadist that are in power now are no better that the Iranion slime. I think it is time for we the people declare war on the admistration and infom them to resign or be forced out. So far they have not listened to the majority of the people on anything maybe a declaration sent to them would open up their coimmunist eRS
Astonishing action 2. Obama calls himself a Christian? Those that bless Israel will be blessed.
I guess that Mosque POTUS attended in his youth helped him with how he feeeeellls towards Israel.
I didn’t buy into the Obama is a Muslim stuff during the election (not that I voted for him). Now I do.
Whether or not he’s a faithful Muslim, I agree with Roger’s thoughts a couple of days ago: Obama’s worldview was definitely shaped by his childhood in the Madras and his commie mother.
Please if you are going to comment on the Obamanations ISLAMIC schooling at least get it right. He did NOT go to a Madrassa he went to an Indonesian STATE School (at a time when ONLY Indonesian CITIZENS were allowed to) and he also went to a Catholic run MULTI FAITH school. But at BOTH schools he was registered as a MUSLIM and he took KORANIC STUDIES as he HIMSELF confirms in his book “dreams” a subject ONLY Muslims are allowed to take.
He also took MENGAGI the study of correctly pronounced Koranic ARABIC a subject only DEVOUT Muslims take.
So do talk about the RIGHT thing when you talk about his ISLAMIC schooling and dont give the left wing moonbats the opportunity to shout you down because the TRUTH is bad enough. Just look at the nonsense posted by moonbat Jordon.
You kind of have to hold your breath and wonder what this child is going to do next.
I am quite sure the next action this unqualified, illegal president will take is to attempt to insure a democratic regime forever. He will do this by giving amnesty and citizenship to 30 million illegals who will bring in another 60 million relatives, legally. All dems will vote for this and RINOs will fall in line. When these people, most of whom have their hands out like most original obama supporters, go to the polls no republican will ever be elected again. Next stop – Venezuela. I’d end with “God help us” but I think it may even be out of His hands now.
We can always hope for a more vigourous climatic change than normally expected for the time around the Winter Solstice 2012. I’m resolved to watching the increasingly strange things going on as the solar cycle ramps up and the hole in the magnetosphere gets larger, meaning more radiation coming through to us. It could all get just as interesting as the president (l.c.) wants things to get by his radical background and political debt.
Not that the world will come to an end or any of the apocalyptic “stuff” will happen necessarily, but if studying the parsed data that the almost-indicted-former-VP has been trying to hand out for years, you might glean the idea that we have not a bleeding clue as to what actually causes things to happen on this planet nor the chance of that famous snowball in hell to do anything about it; so change, as change always is, will continue with that date being a potential highlight in an otherwise dreary future if the predilections of this president are anything to go by.
Maybe he’ll invite the Iranian nuclear “energy” scientists to the U.S. for university courses. /sarc off
We should not try and talk to Obama. He must be weakened. What can we do to push his poll numbers under 40%. That’s perhaps the number one question.
David you are absolutely right. The time for debating what these people are trying to do and why should be over. I wrote a piece on my blog called The Volunteer Media and have been using twitter off and on to try and put the truth (usually the dims own words) in front of the masses. If you have any ideas of your own let us know.
The “time for debating these people” was in the 60s and 70s, but few did. I was one of them that did.
A lone Randian conservative Jeremiah, the “Acquarians” around me ridiculed and insulted us.
At considerable sacrifice I moved my family offshore at the end of the 60s, and have been there since.
Now my benumbed compatriots awaken to see the children of the 60s dancing in the palace. SURPRISE !
Well, you bought it all for 50 years, and now you’re going to have to pay for it. It’s over.
The goods have been delivered. Debate? Hah. Hire another McCain! Won’t that do it?
Ahhh, you are so right! This is a “long-view” perspective often missing in our 24/7 Cable news culture. The 60′s radicals have polluted our educational system from top to bottom with sweet sounding but destructive ideas such as “Social Justice”, which is nothing more than an attempt to rebrand Socialism. Obama is merely the end result of these poisonous ideas “Trickling down” through our culture. Alas, they will have their day in the sun just as the flower children did, but people will wise up quickly now as then and will show them the door soon.
WE can’t do anything to push his numbers lower. Unfortunately, or fortunately, he’s doing the best he can to get them down quickly and hard himself!
Not fast enough.
His poll numbers will never dip below the idiot threshold of the population, which is 40% or higher. Do you really think these supporters are even paying ONE BIT of attention? They got their color of choice in there, what else ever mattered? This place is toast.
Maybe we should all get behind that decorated Army Surgeon that is refusing to go back to Afghanistan until Obama produces a birth certificate proving that he is a natural born citizen of the United States. I really don’t understand why Obama has spent $800,000.00 in legal fees trying to prevent anyone from seeing his records…maybe he really does have something to hide. So much for transparency, but like the Army Surgeon, I to would like him to step forward and prove that he really is our Commander and Chief as required to do in the Constition of the United States. For all of you out there that would say that he has produced one…it was a proven fake. Do a little research and stop believing everything that the “puppet heads” are espousing. If you would just read 3 or 4 different sources…maybe it would change your opinion…it did me.
We don’t have to do anything; he’s doing a great job dropping those numbers himself. Stuff like this certainly won’t help, except for the anti-Semites that are already in love with him.
I’m afraid I’m not all that encouraged by the low poll numbers. Some of those people are unhappy with him for not getting them their freebies like yesterday already. There are actual idiots who think they are supposed to get ‘free’ health-care now.
Then, you’ve got the whackadoodles who are P.O.’d at Barry for not being radical and extreme enough.
Let’s face it; a good chunk of our citizens would sell our country down the rabbit hole into tyrannical rule just so long as the ride is free.
You haven’t seen anything yet. Wait till the first post American President exorcises his absolute pardon powers. I bet they’re working on a pardon list right now in anticipation of his ending term in office. I wouldn’t be surprised if the pardons haven’t already been signed. The American penal demographics is going to change drastically when all those “political prisoners” are released. And if push comes to shove, you know how Gitmo is going to be closed?
Free Mumia
You are making a very valid point. We could have nightmare on our hands. Obama is going to get goofier.
The President’s pardon powers are absolute only over Federal offenses. Over State offenses, they are absolutely worthless. Only the Governor of the State in question can pardon a criminal for State crimes.
Mere Constitutional limits don’t apply to Obama.
But you can’t very well release someone who isn’t in your custody to begin with. Obama could try to grant clemency like that, but he couldn’t actually enforce it.
An amazingly ominous development! More evidence that this administration is nerving itself to throw Israel over the side in the hope of appeasing Muslim opinion. It looks like Israel can expect an escalating series of calculated provocations in the hope they make an egregious mistake and do something that the Obama administration can use to justify their abandonment. What other reason can justify this action toward these nuclear scientists?
Link from The Weekly Standard:
Terms of Endearment The Obama administration’s Middle East diplomacy goes from bad to worse.
WTF, we’re surprised by this?
KSM is certain to gain freedom due to multiple 4th and 5th amendment violations in a CIVILIAN trial, and thats not ignorance or inexperience, its by DESIGN. He has been in love with the radical left since his Dysfunctional Childhood with commies and muslims, you actually think he’s got any of the Western worlds best interests in heart. He only cares about the enourmous weath created by our productive capitalists societies so he can “redistribute” it to the unworthy nonmotivated trash that whine they havent gotten their “share”.
The middle east has a single jewel, a tiny, shining star of prace, tolerance and productivity in a sea of horrifying madness. The Jews have turned an inhostitable desert into a lush paradise, so now its time to turn it over to the bastards who did nothing but try to destroy it forever.. Its the Chicago way, let the chumps do the hard work to actually build the business, then exploit, extort, and destroy it for the enjoyment of your gangster (democrat/terrorist, same thing) friends.
How do you say “DUH?” loud enough to convey the lack of surprise this move is?
Go easy, he just doesn’t know what he doesn’t know.
He ‘knows’ who he hates (learned it from the ‘best and brightest’ from mentors on).
Barry’s ‘transparency’ is becoming crystal every day.
We are in a sh*t-load of trouble, America and with an Anti-Semite, Whitey-hating FREAK at the helm of a ship crashing into DOOMSDAY, America HATING, self-defeating, US-weakening, limp-wristed prerogatives
Welcome, my fellow citizens, to the rabidly anti-Israeli (and self-destructive while they’re at it) ultra-Left fringe of the European continent and Great Britain. To deny American visas to Israeli nuclear scientists is not merely an anti-Israeli scandal of enormous proportions. It denies the United States the expertise, brilliance and experience of these scientists.
What’s next? U.S. medical facilities and scientific endeavors will employ only Chicago-machine
politicians and admired special friends of Obama, such as Louis Farrakhan, Jeremiah Wright, Henry Louis Gates, Jr., William Ayers and Bernardine Dorhn, and all former members of the Weather Underground?
This action is as anti-American as it is anti-Israeli.
It is another significant piece in what should no longer be viewed as the “puzzle” of Barack Hussein Obama.
He is no puzzle. The picture couldn’t be more clear—or more alarming to Americans of all political points of view.
Belladonna is very apt in stating two highly salient points – not only is this visa putsch a highly anti-Israel/anti-semitic act, but it is also an anti-American one too. Those who really want to understand the tangible results of Obama’s decree would be well served by reading, ‘Start up Nation’ and ‘The Israel Test’. IF there are two books that are MUST reads during these perilous times it is these two.
Once finished reading the books just pass them along……a chain book of sorts, which will absolutely enlighten its readers to what Israel’s Jews have contributed to mankind.
Astonishing, simply astonishing feats.
Holy CHIT.
If there remains one Jew, who can possibly support this ‘freak of history’, in the White House, I pray the Mossad pays a visit.
How does it go? Click your heels together twice and say, I want it to be November!”
I will just give up if a majority of the Jewish voters vote for these clowns again.
this actually is not new, I know of a case like this from years ago – some one who had a visa to the us in the past could not get it renewed after working in the other reactor.
Finally a rational informative statement in this conversation. All I’ve read so far is propaganda, fear mongering, war hawks, and cheap shots at the US president. One comment was even a threat. If what you say is true then the article is a propaganda piece aimed at slandering the US president.
Increase the Peace, End Fear
Agent Jordan, please, I told you not to publish your boilerplate here. At the Huffington Post only, as discussed. You have to be more subtle here. Some of these people are actually literate.
Jordan, go f*ck yourself.
Co-Signed.
Stamped.
In triplicate.
Indubitably
Wow. I thought there were rules against ad hominem attacks and profanity here. Well thanks for your civil discussion and insightful criticism. I never saw it that way before.
Your mistake is in assuming that we are as ignorant, foolish and unthinking as you and the people with whom you associate. We are not.
Obama hates America and is determined to inflict maximum damage on our country before the voters can knee-cap him in the mid-terms and then eliminate him in 2012.
And responsibility for this massive destruction of our liberty and whole-scale looting of our property rests primarily with the useful idiots that were key to him getting elected — such as yourself.
Jordon You will have noted from the responses to your pathetic moonbat posts on here that we don’t suffer fools gladly . Back to your lunatic bretheren on HuffPo with you.
Amen, Oscar the Grump.
Here is an opportunity for Canadian Prime Minister Harper to show leadership by extending invitations to those nuclear scientists. After all, he took a deserved hit by working both sides of the street when Libyan dictator Qaddafi flew back to Libya after addressing the UN General Assembly, with a stopover at Gander. Qaddafi was lectured, but was allowed to leave.
Let’s face it, the US is ebbing, and frankly Plan “B” has to be invoked to deal with a world that frankly sees the US with less influence.
I hope Harper does exactly that. It would be good for both Canada and Israel.
Laura, expecting that is like the line Ann Coulter used about a new kind of chocolate cake. You can eat all you want, and you will never gain an ounce.
As long as Stephen Harper concludes that he can get away with going along with BHO in antagonizing Honduras, the dissidents of Iran (by refusing to label the Iranian Revolutionary Guard Corps as a terrorist entity), and antagonizing Niels Veldhuis in the financial post regarding the stimulus package having no effect – he will do so. Take a look at Guergis’s resignation/firing: she was gone only after the largest bombshell regarding Jaffer was in print at the Toronto Star. He is too thin-skinned to be a leader
of greater consequence.
Israel should declare them diplomats.
Perhaps this is Obama frantically flapping at the Israelis as they make plans to protect themselves from Ahmadinejad’s nuclear bomb. Whatever. I fear war may be inevitable, brought on by the inept fumbling of this administration.
The upside is, perhaps at last the Jews will be driven out of the House of Obama, which can only be a good thing… for the Jews.
One-word suggestion (well, it’s actually, an acronym, but …): FOIA.
(Asking not about any of the individuals but about *policies* regarding refusing visas based on employment history that includes nuclear reactor work or research. What, you believed me when I said one word? You ever know a lawyer who can limit himself to one word?)
WTF.
How can the Jewish liberals in this country support this Obamanation? When will they get the message? When all support is withdrawn from Israel? Perhaps it will be when the jackbooted Acorn workers arrive to take them to the trains?
You (incorrectly) assume liberal Jews care about Israel. They don’t.
You are assuming that those who are putatively Jewish by birth ( in essence the Judaic analogue of cannon law) or consider themselves Jewish culturally are in fact Jewish.
The leftist Jews may well be Jews by birth, culturally Jewish but are in fact confessionally liberal.
Hence the term ‘JINO’.
Please, Jews are like every other group, we have our fair share of the naive, the gullible, the uninformed, & sadly, more than our fair share of looney-leftists & self-haters. And, just as a point of comparison, Israeli leftists are much worse than their American counterparts.
That is a scary fact, but true.
Well, it’s good to know that at least this will buy us loads of goodwill from the radical Islamic terrorists. I’m certain this type of anti-Israel stance will cause them to rethink their plans for attacking the United States again.
The Shofar, the Trumpet must be blown; Obama is Neville Chamberlain, and he must go.
Therefore, Letters of Impeachment MUST begin, on the basis that he is promoting America’s
enemies of our State and demoting America’s best allies. THAT is GROUNDS for IMPEACHMENT!
THE WORD MUST GO FORTH – he is NEVILLE OBAMALAIN and as they said in the British
House of Commons to Chamberlain, FOR GOD”S SAKE GO!!! and that was the end of his political
career. EVEN PETRAEUS has been repeating this PRO-ARAB Anti- Israel Crap!!! We got to Wake up
about him too and any military leaders who spout the same merely for career advancement – that was
and is fully described by Col. Josiah Bunting, President of Virginia Military Institute. We need Grant and
Sherman – NOT McClellan!!!!!
“Obama is Neville Chamberlain”
We should be so lucky. Chamberlain was not a Nazi. He did not side with England’s enemies, nor did he punish its allies.
We are in much deeper trouble than that.
Fat Man: The British government was so perfidious that its Royals continued to support Hitler even “after” the war began. It was the British who cut off immigration of Jews to Israel so that their lives were lost to Hitler. So, even as the British fought the Nazis, they sought to limit Jewish survival. Indeed, that seems to be the British policy even until today.
Read John Loftus’ “The Secret War Against the Jews” –
http://books.google.com/books?id=trU7nY-T-4EC&printsec=frontcover&dq=hidden+war+against+the+jews&source=bl&ots=sCHf6-w4qK&sig=00zNFDpMP8wXsF_4takbhhoLOkM&hl=en&ei=LSS_S56yKcT38AaU2JjRCA&sa=X&oi=book_result&ct=result&resnum=1&ved=0CAUQ6AEwAA#v=onepage&q=hidden%20war%20against%20the%20jews&f=false
I read ‘The Secret War Against The Jews’ about a decade ago and never looked at the western powers the same way again.The British powers were the scum of the earth, many of their same agencies still are. The (un)royal family are jackbooted Nazi-lovers.
In fact, the treachery from the virulently hostile US State Dept and the CIA is so over the top it would make a whore blush.
In a trillion years I would NEVER encourage anyone I care about to work for these dastardly agencies. May they implode under the weight of their anti-semitic diseased minds!
Is it any surprise to see Prince Charles being very cozy with the Muslims, or to continue along his merry way still
willfully ignorant of Lord Monckton, Professor Lindzen, Professor Plimer, Professor Ball, and all the rest who have been smeared as climate change deniers, what they have to say?
I am as surprised at that as the sun rising in the east and setting in the west.
“Obama is Neville Chamberlain, and he must go.”
Neville Chamberlain didn’t order the Air Ministry to stop developing the Spitfire. He didn’t order the Orfordness radar research site closed. He did not pledge to stop modernizing the RAF bomber fleet.
I feel as if our country is the proverbial frog in warming water as Obama descends deeper and deeper into policies and actions predicted by his radical past and associations.
My question is this: when will the supposed moderates in the Democratic party – the people with the real power to stop him – wake up and do something before he turns our country into a banana republic? He is already doing damage that will take years to decades to undo.
Did you mean islamic banana republic?
Almost right.
Try this ‘un on fer size: Islamic Burka Redux
0baMerica here we come.
You would be right to fear the future, the American people don’t really understand how a nation slides into tyranny(communism,fascism,etc.) Only 10% of the russian population were members of the communist party. Obama has a strong base that will not leave him which is the 20% black US population. A poll showed that 35% of US blacks are anti semitic as opposed to less than 10% of US whites and Hispanics. He intends to create an organization that will parallel the military and people it with his supporters. this is followed by gun control for the population. This is the template used in all countries that attempt to a communistic state(communism, socialism being a red herring as the goal is power). In Cuba it is committees for the defense of the revolution and the names change to fit the situation. all radicals are aware of this process which is based on the idea of creating crises and then using those crises to silence the opposition. Emmanuel has already endorsed this approach. The US should seriously fear this ma and his handlers such as george soros(billions are being made by this financial vulture on Obama policies). It does not matter what Obama says: look at his actions and his associations which speaks to the obvious. Obama is not a real American, he does not feel any patriotism to the US.
The BarryCare vote demonstrated the reality of these so called Democrat moderates.
They no longer exist.
When you elect a raging, radical anti-Semite POTUS, don’t be shocked when he starts acting like a raging, radical anti-Semite
*Link from The Weekly Standard:
Terms of Endearment The Obama administration’s Middle East diplomacy goes from bad to worse.
Do you really think that Israel will stand still for an imposed settlement. The US is acting like the big bully on the block showing how tough it is with the smallest one around. Israel is not going to be pushed. The question then is how far will this President take this: sanctions, blockade, or outright attack. We will know soon. Look for a change in the way Obama treats American Jewry that’ll be the signal.
Oscar,
It is clear as day that Barry has thrown the gauntlet down. Israel’s hand is being FORCED by scum-slime Barry & CO.
With the new ‘regime’ our ‘enemies are our new & improved ‘friends’ and our ‘friends’ are our newly smeared ‘enemies’.
My heart is sick over the obviouser and obviouser coming from the hell-in-a-handbasket O-administration.
Karen, Israel shouldn’t declare them diplomats, they should declare them terrorists, then the O State Department would have no problem giving them visas immediately.
This is too much. He isn’t just showing disdain for Jews and sucking up to his Islamic well wishers and donors.
This is plainly verging on taking ORDERS from somebody, like Ahmadinejad. Obama is THIS CLOSE to publicly saying something like “If Iran attacks and harms Israel, the United States will stand by and do nothing. Israel is evil.”
No worries, Israel always excel at times of adversity. They will come up with new ideas that are out of the box and they’ll prevail because Israel is always ready for a worst case scenario (unlike most of the rest of the world)and after all, it is in large part thanks to Jewish scientists that the US had the bomb first in WWII and not Germany or Japan.
Obama is a fool to think that he can push Israel over the cliff without destroying himself and probably the rest of the world at the same time as the times that Jews went to the gas chambers without a protest are long gone.
“Rosenbergs” . . . wonder what they did . . .
Tallgrass,
Einstein, Oppenheimer, Frankel, Teller, Bethe and others, all involved in the Manhattan Project.
It’s really easy to find one blemish and try to diminish the good all the others did – typical left wing tactics.
Amen, Amen, and Amen!
face it, the president of the united states is muslim by birth through his father and he is furthering muslim interests. period, end of story.
The man in the White House is increasingly DANGEROUS to the Security of the United States and the State of Israel. It is high time that the Jewish People in the United States stand up for Israel and speak out against the supporter of IslamoFascists in the World.
There is no more denying Obama’s sympathies. He said it in his first book. When push comes to shove “…I will stand with the Muslims…”. We are on the precipice of an International Disaster of Huge Proportions.
I do not believe that we are going to be able to avoid forcing Israel to use it’s nuclear arsenal against Iran. I, for one, would support Israel in a pre-emptive nuclear strike against these madmen in black robes.
They are indeed insane in their Koranic inspired and directed hatred toward all non-Muslims (kafirs) and are just directing this hatred against Israel today.
Islam is THE problem. Iran is the most dangerous aggressor today; however Saudi Arabia is ultimately the major fomentor and agent of spreading this Islamic Political/Religious Hatred to the world.
You are in favor of pre-emptive NUCLEAR ATTACK! Good God! You are mad! People like you are the real threat to peace in the world.
Why the hate against nuclear weapons? Near as I can tell, it’s just paranoia. Nukes are but another weapon of war, differing from heavy artillery only in firepower. Sure, they could be used as a weapon of genocide, but so could anything else; nukes are just considerably more efficient at it. As it is, people are building smaller nukes and larger conventional bombs, and I hear people complain about blurring the distinction, but really, why should there have ever been a distinction to begin with? The real issue is the threat to civilians, but using nukes in the desert is no threat to civilians unless they are in the path of the fallout, which in many cases isn’t even that big.
Exactly. The prejudice against using nuclear weapons is irrational and unjustified.
The nation of Iran is ruled by 5th century religious mystics who want mankind sent back to that glorious time and ruled by their religious dictates — and they are obviously prepared to use whatever level of force, including nuclear, is required to achieve the mass subjugation of humanity under their rule.
The only rational response to these bastards is to nuke them right out of existence.
The fire bombings of both Dresden, Germany and Tokyo, Japan killed many more people than either the Hiroshima or Nagasaki nukes.
Please describe in detail how you make ‘peace’ with Islam besides converting or a becoming a Dhimmi because this ‘religion’ is not about making ‘peace’ with infidels.
Jordan, you are not a threat to anyone but your poor deluded self.
How was your session of self abuse? We are all curious to know.
Do us all a favor and take your oral abuse somewhere else.
Jordan#29
Yup, we have to Nuke Iran, No choice as the Leftist appeasers have removed the non nuclear option. The Jews must heed the Talmudic injunction that when somebody is trying to kill you, rise up and kill them first.
Ist law of self preservation. When somebody almost daily threatens to kill you and is openly acquiring the means, not to take them seriously imperils another 6 million Jews.
I would see every Iranian Dead than have one Israeli Jew harmed by an Iranian attack. The alternative is for Israel to take out all of Iran’s oil production. No money maybe regime change? But that’s iffy I would do both oil fields and some of the population.
Not sure any attack at this stage can kill the Nuke program! They probably have most of their fissionable material buried in the Middle of Tehran.
The longer we wait the more people in the end will die.
Well if most of the radioactive materials are hidden in the middle of Tehran , I suggest that we hide it from them under ten feet of Radioactive Glass. I bet it would be hard as hell to dig through. Face it, it’s either us or them. we know what they want to do to us. We’re crazy not to strike first. and send them back into the stone age. this time don’t waste our money by rebuilding them. what ever happened to unconditional surrender? just kill them all and let god sort them out.
Why the fear of pre-emptive strikes? When someone is getting ready to attack you, a pre-emptive strike is the least bad option available. As to the choice of weapon, one should always select the weapon that has the best chance of acheiving your goals with the minimum of collateral damage. In this case that would be nukes. The only one to blame for such a situation is Iran which has both declared every intention of destroying Isreal, and then gone on a nuke building program.
Should Isreal wiat until after Iran launches it’s nukes to strike back? The result of that would be at best the same, at worst much more deadly for Iran, and result in many dead jews as well. Perhaps that’s why you want Isreal to hold back?
Yes. My first thought too. Tariq Ramadan gets a visa. Prohibition of the terms “Islamic Radicalism, Islamist, Jihad, Sharia” etc. (Something to do with his recent appointment of an envoy to the OIC and his “recommendations?”) And this.
What else needs to be spelled out for us on where he is taking this country?
He has the Presidential powers — nothing can stop him.
Can’t help wondering what’s next.
After all, it’s not just that he won’t consider taking out Iran’s nukes, or that his deliberately time-wasting phoney attempts to get China and Russia (who built Iran’s nuke plants) to agree to “crippling” sanctions against their own clear interests — has been nothing but a deceptive farce, but he is
actually protecting Iran from Israel.
Wasn’t there talk at one point about Obama joining the UN to pressure the Israelis to submit to the IAEA and get rid of thier nukes?
With all the recent talk around Petraeus’ administration pandering statement — that Israeli “intransigence” is “harming” our military situation in Afghanistan and Iraq, etc., is the next step to blame Israel for Iran having Nukes? Of course. The sweet innocent Mullahs are only reacting to big bad Israel to protect themselves.
If WE are the blame for the rest of the world having and wanting Nukes, then Israel must be the cause of Iran’s Nuclear program. Didn’t A’Jad SAY that he would comply with the IAEA if Israel did so too? Obama is, after all, totally eager to please him.
Could the new NPR and all it’s discrimination between states that are “in compliance” with the IAEA rules and those not — have something to do with Israel — or a coming condemnation of Israel?
It’s not hard to guess how nervy he ultimately is. Or what he’ll do if he sees clear polls that indicate he won’t be elected for sure in 2012. With nothing to lose as far as election goes, for sure, he’ll do whatever “moves” him — as he would if he were elected to a final second term.
I wonder if the L.A.Times is willing, yet, to release the tape of Obama’s speech at Rashid Khalidi’s party. On second thought, do we really need to hear it to know?
I don’t mean to excuse the awfulness of Obama, but Bob Gates already said when Bush was still Prez that Iran built its bomb to defend itself against Israel. That was a shocking statement, coupled with the Iraq Study Group and Bush’s continued endorsement of the Road Map shows that much of the ‘Establishment’ types were headed this way – partly as a way out of the War on Terror – before Obama. Obama is the perfect candidate to simply institutionalize an anti-Israel policy that had begun to be implemented.
The others would have tred lighter. Obama’s had this in his gut for a long time.
Here’s the UPDATE:
Reuters April 9, 2010
Netanyahu Ducks U.S. Nuclear Summit, Fearing Censure
Egypt and Turkey will demand Israel sign NPT
http://www.reuters.com/article/idUSTRE6375QC20100409
The next Republican president will be spending a lot of time apologizing for 0bama.
While full dipmomatic immunity goes to the guy from Qatar who thought it was funny to tell air mashall’s he had tried to light his shoes on fire. Qatar. A population of the very wealthy sunni relatives. You could fit them all into one grand hotel. And, not one of them has contributed anything to society.
FATWA’s, and suicide bombers not withstanding. (Not covering Israel’s back means not giving them replacement parts to take on iran. Who is deciding what to do on iranian instructions.
If we’re lucky, however, the turn in events makes a few politicians shoes quake with worry. They want to be re-elected. You think they care about the bamster? By about the same margin they cared about LBJ, Nixon, and Jimmy Carter.
Re the Qatari jokester — it cost us and the airline a bundle, not to mention the passengers fear and delay — and taking up the news for at least a week — never letting us forget for a moment the threat we live with.
Shortly after the underwear bomber, there were reports that Islamist blogs recommended that it wasn’t even necessary to do the suicide thing — just to make trouble on airplanes — keep the fear going and cause disruption and losses of time and money. There were several of these deliberate events in January and February this year.
It’s unlikely that he was stupid enough to “joke” like that without knowing full well the consequences — and that also he was protected by his diplomatic immunity.
Bad, even stupid, foreign policy decision are not a basis for impeachment. Write to your Senators and your Congressmen. Be polite, be definite, and tell them that you vote.
Grounds for impeachment are whatever congress decides they are.
The truth of Obama’s education and early working years that was concealed from us in 2008 has now fully been revealed. He is a Marxist, both in his domestic policies and his foreign policies. His sympathies and goals are more in alignment to those the USA spent decades restraining, than those it spent those same decades defending. I say this because the Marxist and Marxist-influenced Left here have been taught to revile Israel for its pro-democratic, anti-Communist, anti-terrorist policies. The USSR supported the PLO, the militant Arab nationalist governments that tried to destroy Israel in 3 wars, and those Soviets taught their Western useful idiots to hate Israel for daring to defend itself and assert its national integrity. Obama is a Marxist in Democrats’ clothing, and he is making decisions that will have impact on world events for years to come.
Why is every mention of “visa” in caps? Were they refused entry permits or credit cards?
People keep targeting Obama as the source of our problems: if he leaves office, all will be right with the world.
Wrong!!
His outlook is fully supported by the Dems in the US House of Reps (power of the purse) and the Senate, and the Federal bureaucrat nomenklatura (staff at State Dept. are surely orgasmic with this news as well as removing “jihad” from our lexicon), the MSM, entertainment industry, etc. The educated elites overwhelmingly support his policies. And tens of millions of our fellow Americans share his views and approve of his actions wholeheartedly. They are not misled.
He’s simply the symptom of the disease. This moral and intellectual rot is what we must combat. Otherwise, we, the West, will die.
I [sadly] agree. Barry is just the pustule head of the impacted pimple bursting forth the toxic poison that has finally and fully been unleashed to the surface.
Marsouin you are exactly right. I simply shake my head when I hear people talk about how much better it would be if Hillary was prez. But we focus on Obama because right now he is the head of the snake, and the rest of the statists are all in with him. The left has declared war on the right, on the Rule of Law, on the free market…..and many on the right are simply clueless to this fact. To say that “we have not begun to fight” is sadly just a point of fact. Either that or the “conservatives” in Congress etc. sure have a funny way of fighting.
-And, Hillary wanted ‘Socialized Healthcare’ too, only, when that was rejected nobody cried, “RAAAAAAAAAACIST!” ad infinitum e pluribus unum ad nauseam ad pain-in-da-walletum.
Yaaawwwn!!!
We Jews don’t need for our scientists to study at American universities; we don’t need them to go to America at all. We need them to think outside the box here in Israel. With predecessors like Einstein, Bohrs, Fermi Oppenheimer and others, is that asking too much?
And all American Jews – that includes you, Mr. Simon – need to get used to the nature of the Jew-hatred at the top of your régime. The wise thing for you to do is to abandon America like America is abandoning us – and soon, you.
Just check out all those Jewish names near the top of the power structure in the States. Eventually Americans will rage at the “Jewish betrayal of America” – and the Protestant establishment that silently backs Obama will applaud quietly and say nothing. The anti-Jewish riots that took place in Oslo in January 2009 will be copied all over America – starting in Detroit and the west coast.
And the mainstream media will bring you commercials and keep their correspondents away.
As a protesting Protestant(?) I firmly reject the administration’s treatment of Israel and her scientists. If we cannot support the only democracy in the Middle East, a democracy where human life and achievement is valued and respected, then we have lost our way. Do not assume that the Protestants will meekly sit by and watch while Israel is abandoned. I will NOT. I can only hope that my small voice would be joined by many others in support of Israel, her people, and her right to exist.
I agree with Kelly. I am one of those Protestant Americans who is a Zionist at heart. I am a supporter of Israel, its people, its right to exist and its right to inhabit the borders they not only won in wars, but were granted by G-d to Abram and his descendants thousands of years ago. There are thousands like us here in America supporting Israel, putting our money where our mouth is, and most of all “praying for the peace of Jerusalem.” I have personally witnessed and experienced the Biblical principle of “those who bless Israel will be blessed.” The US was once a nation who enjoyed that blessing. We must remember this:
2 Chronicles 7:14
If my people, which are called by my name, shall humble themselves, and pray, and seek my face, and turn from their wicked ways; then will I hear from heaven, and will forgive their sin, and will heal their land.
I agree too. I have already e-mailed the PM of Israel and apologized for our poor excuse for a President. I reminded him that God willing the longest Obumer would be in office is just 3 years more.That the people of America support Israel, Keep building apartment building ‘ keep the Golan heights, don’t let the terrorists force them into giving up many more land thinking peace will result from it. apiece of your ass is what they want.
Yes, Ruvy. The Jews will pay the price for Emanuel and Axelrod in the Whitehouse. Obama made sure to have the useful idiots there, so that when he continues his destruction of America ( which is his plan), he will point to the Jews and say. “Its them.,Its their fault. They made me do it. They were my trusted advisors” Yup, we are in for it and its looks like its a setup. OMG
Ruvy, whilst I understand some of your anger and disgust, I think you need to aim your fury at the proper target.
Ruvy, I second your line of thinking.
In fact, between the Technion, the more per capita tech start ups than anywhere in the world, Rafael, Elbit, and most especially MAMRAM, the State Dept can stuff their visas where the sun doesn’t shine! They have NOTHING up on our techno out-of-the-box wizards.
Am I upset? Hell yes, as the ungrateful US bastards utilize our scientific wizardry and suck us dry. Am I bitter, do I think we are the losers? Hell no. Further, I have NO ax to grind with US universities, they didn’t reject my kids, my progeny walked away from the US to emigrate to Israel with 3 degrees between them from MIT and Caltech.
You know what? Their Israeli counterparts from the Technion in the same EE disciplines are just as well versed as my kiddies. In fact, I paid upwards of $ 400,000 to garner them their degrees. The Technion would have set me back a few grand. Ask me which one in the end is the better value?
Jews will still find a way to vote Democratic regardless of what happens to Israel.
That may be true for some, Banjo, but count me as one Jewish lady who has had enough. After twenty-some years of voting Democratic, it’s over. Perhaps there are more like me than you know.
Welcome aboard, Sarah. Please speak to your relatives too; we need all the help we can get.
As no doubt your voice of reason is heard by your Jewish family and friends, Sarah. Keep your faith and hope alive amongst your sisters and brethren! REALITY needs to go viral!
My entire family has voted Republican for a long time. However, we are in the minority. Liberalism replaced religion for many Jews and they just simply won’t let go. More and more jews are actually feel that Israel is the problem and not the solution. It is very sad for me to observe it all happening.
Ruvy:
Exactly which group of protestants support Obama? The evangelicals sure don’t. In the US the evangelical Christians are growing while the old main stream protestants that have drank the PC Kool-Aid are shrinking faster than the MSM. The protestant Bibles are about 75% Old Testament and the Evangelical churches, such as the Baptist, study it a lot and don’t take kindly to Jew bashing and other policies of the Obama crowd.
toad,
The empty headed old line Protestant main-lining denominations are where the old money families who own America are to be found. They may be Protestant or Christian in name only, but that’s where they are, and they own (to the degree that anyone who is not Chinese or a Wahhabi Arab can own) America. Jews, no matter how high they have risen, are merely head waiters or managers. Having managed a restaurant in the States, I’m severely aware of the difference between a manager and an owner.
Ruvy, my man, you are SO RIGHT. No Jew can make it in America. I’m a perfect example myself. I was having a lousy time as a restaurant manager – just like you – so I bought the place. And then I bought the chain. And then I bought the state it was in. (Why stop when you’re on a roll, if you know what I mean.) And keep up those racist comments about Protestants. They reflect well on you. What a nice guy you must be. No one would accuse you of being bigoted when you called Protestants “empty headed.” (Who were you talking about – Kierkegaard?) Anyway, in case you have noticed, you’re banned from this site. That’s what happens to racists. We don’t like them around here. Sorry.
While some of the old money families are influential, nobody “owns” America, least of all these old money families.
The claim that the rich people own America is just another one of the class warfare lies of the left that unfortunately many on our side have bought into.
Netanyahu cancelled his participation in Obama’s nuclear ‘summit’ next week. As to the denial of these visas, it is an embarrassment. Time for Israel to work more closely with India and Russia.
Nuclear summit? Something’s brewing. An “edict” will certainly come out of it. Something harmful to us and to Israel.
I’m almost speechless. I really have to wrack my brain and go back to LBJ to find a string of mistaken Executive-branch foreign policy decisions like this. I didn’t have high hopes for this administration, but they’ve managed to fail even that low bar by a miserable margin. It’s one disaster after another – Honduras, the missile shield, Iranian protests, The Falklands and the UK, Israel (multiple times), it just never stops.
When the Jewish people are safe,man is safe. History tells us this. I do not feel safe. I am not a Jew.
we are very well aware that the wrong man is in the whitehouse. the very wrong man. we have all the evidence of his evildoings and his smarmy polarizing weakening of america agenda.
yet, no one stands up. no one will be straightforward about what we know he is. forget marxist, this nut is a fascist and look at with whom he allies himself.
the whole world is laughing at us. even a fat, dumb piece of crap arab felt free to make a joke of exploding that plane and those passengers. there is only one reason for that. obama.
who is going to stand up the way edward r. murrow stood up. the way the army-mccarthy hearings finally made explicit “have you, at last, sir, no decency”.
Roger – Why should anyone be surprised by this except for the 80% of the Jews who voted for him, and they continue to think denial is a river in Egypt.
Netanyahu knows that Obama is no friend of his.
This incident only accelerates the clock on Israel’s pre-emptive strike against Iran’s nuclear facilities.
Obama is about to push Israel into an unprecedented era of uncertainty. With talk of Obama ‘forcing’ a peace plan on Israel this fall, who knows how Israel will start to act.
It is shameful that the relationship has come to this. The more Obama pressures Israel in the wrong direction, the worse things will get for the US, Genesis 12:3 writ large.
Get ready folks. Things are going to get ugly.
Rob. Plenty of us Israelis are mad at Netanyahu for not telling Obama to shove it in far more forceful language. At the same time, almost everyone here realizes that our quarrel is with Obama, not America. And, we very much appreciate the support shown by the vast majority of Americans. Obama is as anti-American as he is anti-Israel.
My department chairman is over in Pakistan every five minutes recruiting grad students. We have a lot of turnover in grad students, here for a few semesters, then leave.
But the Sec. of State and Prof. Obama in the Oval Office behaving like the scourging biyotches of Pennsylvania Avenue have to make sure Israel gets “the treatment” because Bibi won’t knuckle under.
This is like having Angela Davis and Bertell Ollman no longer being wannabees but with nukes and no conscience. A bad business.
I am a 49 year old stay at home mom. My husband and I of 27 years have 4 children. We have always tried to take a family vaction. we never thought of traveling abroad, there was so much to see in America. There was no need for passports. That has changed. We will forgoe a vacation so we can secure passports for the six of us. If we are able, we will have an abreviated get together.
Gee, who is surprised to find out that the nut who spent 20 years at the feet of that anti-semite bigot, Jeremiah Wright, is himself, a Jew-hating bigot?
Just what do anyone think was on that tape which the LA Times refused to release where Obama was toasting that Palistinian terrorist for murder him some Jews.
Obama is as big a bigot as his “pastor” but he hides it behind all the lies but when pushed the hate always comes out.
AchtungImonJihad – given visa, invited to speak at Columbia. Israeli scientists – banned. Any questions? Obama and his ilk need to be purged.
Mr. Simon,
One day Obama denies visas, another day he denies the Holocaust. Stranger things have happened. Only in the Obama administration.
Rachel
You spoke my mind, Rachel! I’m being 100% serious when I say that I think Barry and Ahmadinejad are pretty much on the same page.
Bizarre stuff. Leave aside all the zionism versus jewry, Israel the state versus Israel the promise debates, leave aside the liberal and progressive heritage of American Jews. Look at this in pure political terms: this is an appeasement. Of a fascist movement. And coterminously inevitably a deliberate insult and persecution of Israelis, and with them, fairly or not, Jewry.
Nothing is accidental in power elite circles or politics. Nothing. This is a provocation. Isolated from USA protection, the state of Israel is much MORE likely to act against Iran. This escalates the threat of war. One assumes because Obama’s handlers want it that way.
And finally, eliminate entirely from your mind any false left / right dichotomies and the Hegelian parlour games that go along with it.
Nazism was and is National SOCIALISM. Socialism. And socialism itself is nothing more than a disguise for enslavement, chief among the slaves- the vast bulk of Jewry.
Betrayal on betrayal.
There has become a clear message from the Obama Whitehouse that they are anti-Israel. This is truly a shame and does not reflect the feelings of the American people. while I am ashamed at the position taken by the administration, I would not suggest that we look for rationalizations to support these changes in policy. Rather we must refuse to accept these changes in policy. Next year Jerusalem!
FRY MUMIA!
Extra Crispy, please and thank you.
> Nazism was and is National SOCIALISM. Socialism…
Don’t be ridiculous. Nazism was Nazism. It was an ideology of nationalism and racial purity. Period. It nationalised business where it was in the interests of those goals, and smashed unions where it was helpful to them. It took from socialism what it thought might advance its goals, and likewise from any other system.
Socialism is easy enough to find fault with without spurious comparisons to Nazism.
What part of “National Socialist German Workers Party” don’t you understand, chile?
A lot of Adolph’s economic policies are not that different from those of the EU and the progressive wing of the Democratic party.
Just because it offends your sensibilities does not change that fact that socialist part of nationalist socialist was indeed socialist.
There are the uneducated and the plain ignorant and then there is “Mambo Bananapatch” Who thinks NAZISM stands for well NAZISM and is somehow attached to NATIONALISM but not of course the diminutive name for the “National SOCIALIST German WORKERS Party “.
You wonder how people like Obama get elected and you have the colossal ignorance and stupidity on display from “Mambo Bananpatch” which shows just how it can happen.
Mambo, that turns out not to be the case. To see this discussed at great length, with many footnotes, see Jonah Goldberg’s Liberal Fascism, but the gist here is that the various fascist parties throughout Europe were essentially socialist. They’re distinguished from Soviet-style Communism by being nationalistic instead of internationalist, and by complete state co-ordination of industry rather than by predominant state ownership of industry. Some people also include a “cult of personality” in the definition of fascism, but there are too many counter-examples (like Stalin, Mao and Ho) on the “communist” side.
We deny these scientists visas, but we allow Tariq Ramadan into the country? Wake up people!
What do you mean by this — didn’t you read the full article? It turned out to be a hoax.
If the government actually HAD denied the Visa to the Israelis, then your comparison would be valid. For that, I give you credit.
Fred, you’re misstating the update. It was denied by the State Department, but the story hasn’t been retracted. PJM is continuing to investigate.
Hi Roger,
Thanks for translating this article. Obama’s turning on Israel has awakened even more Americans to how disastrous this POTUS is in foreign relations and defense matters. Those of us who love Israel will not have short memories (and I believe that is a majority). This POTUS must be shackled and restrained by a Republican congress in 2010 and voted out of office in 2012. May God have mercy on us.
How can a Nuclear Research facility that Israel states does not exist be the focal point of this story?
Journalists need to do background check before printing stories, this hysteria is all over the extreme right blogs, yet the facility does not exist according to Israel.
Israel has never denied the Dimona nuclear plant existed. In fact there a road in the desert on the way to Eilat where you can see the plant, not to far from that road.
Check your facts, Lefty.
My only surprise at this sort of thing is that people continue to be surprised by it. Obama sat in pews of a church pastored by a rabid anti-Semite for 20 some odd years…do you think anyone but another rabid anti-Semite and Israel-hater would do that? Obama is *exactly* what he’s been all along and is acting accordingly.
I suppose the level of shock will be even greater when people finally figure out there aren’t going to be any more federal elections in this country (not any even resembling fair and free) if it looks as though Obama and the Dems would lose control of Congress in them. They’ll be rigged and/or there’ll be some “national emergency” that “forces” Obama to postpone them. And please don’t say anything that starts with, “Not even Obama would try…” You should know better by now.
Welcome to the United States of Hugo Chavez North.
Why would Obama go to Prague,Czech Republic and sign a nuclear arms treaty with Russia before the U.S. Senate has ratified it? And apparently no U.S Senator has spoken up about the U.S. Constitution. Only the Congress can ratify treaties.
Look I’m just dreaming, right? The past 12 months have just been a really long bad dream and pretty soon I’m going to wake up and everything will be ok, it’s going to be fine. It’s just a dream.
I know, right? My heart aches over all of this and the fact that people are still SO BLINDED and STUPID beyond belief and don’t ‘GET IT’?
Where are my ruby red slippers?
I want to go HOME!
I want to go HOME!
I want to go HOME!
If only we had enough ruby slippers to make it work. *Sigh*
they dont’ need to come here anyway. might get some bad habits, what w/ our affirmative action ‘scientists’ and such.
i have seen stuff lately on the net saying that muslims will also be exempt from being forced to purchase obamacare, along with several other special groups (prez, congress, unions, etc.). wonder did he also exempt the s.c.o.t.u.s.?
coincidence i guess about the muslims, huh?
this opretenderturd is a loose cannon endangering the entire world. honorable men don’t have anything to hide. they are proud of their accomplishments, and good follows them. this sitg is hiding something really bad, and honest folk see it.
Hope and change anyone? I like mine in nuclear pennies and dimes, please, since I don’t think it will be the hydrogen $10,000 bill that will hit me.
“We were told by their press department that federal law prohibits them from discussing individual visa cases.”
Translation: “We can’t justify it either.” This is Hillary Clinton and Barack Obama exacting payback for Israel’s refusal to knuckle under. I swear if they thought they could get away with it they’d be firing TOMAHAWK missiles in Tel Avid.
But, of course! The Antisemitism is strong with this ‘force’.
Btw, you do realize that Barry can’t properly pronounce your monker?
Heh, (amongst ‘other’ drunkenly repeated WORDS) …
so when do people realize they elected the first anti American, anti semitic
president. I’m sure Rahm Emanuel’s parents must be proud.
Sorry, but people who are intelligent (especially white) and successful despite their past victim-status do not deserve even a ‘blip’ on the racism-radar.
NEXT! No victim-status soup for you!
Whoops. This was meant to be a reply to: 63. PTL
Words fail me for my shock and disbelief! We need to give visas to the Israeli scientists so they can come work for us after Iran turns Israel into a big glassy puddle in the desert. Since when does the USA deny visas to citizens of our allies for spurious political reasons? If you’re not scared of what is happening in Soviet America, you’re not paying attention!
A word of caution.
This is a very strange development.
It is possible, and I make no claim as to probability, that there is more to the story here.
This is not to impugn the Israelis.
And yes, the current administration in every way appears to be under the influence of Wright-Power-Khalidi on behalf of the Muslim-Palestinian “other” to the dangerous and potentially catastrophic destruction of Israel.
But as there are knowns, and known unknowns, there are also unknown unknowns.
Yes, beware.
(But be wary.)
Time will tell.
Not sure what this is about.
Just sayin’.
We are in ‘CAPTAIN OBVIOUS’ mode. ‘Caution’ is for people who are still ‘hopin’ he changes’.
No, we are full-on RED mode.
FULL ALERT.
Israel, Duck and Cover and Duke Nuke ‘em.
Pawn meet Bishop.
No, there is way too much emotion on display here (vitriol and acrimony) when so little is known.
What if the denials of visas was meant to protect the Israeli scientists?
What if there is a concern that having the Israelis here jeopardizes negotiations with China, Russia, or some other country?
What if there are elements already within the US scientific or governmental apparatus that doesn’t want them here?
There are always reasons.
But no one knows what the circumstances are surrounding any of this.
As I said, all of this is very strange.
Jumping to conclusions is easy, but it is neither helpful nor advised.
There is no doubt that Mr. Obama has every appearance (and a growing record) of hostility toward Israel.
My sense is that there is more to the story.
“The rest of the story.”
Which, of course, we may never know.
Expectant observation is advised.
Just sayin’, again.
How dare you be a voice of reason?!
Good points and you’re very right to pull back the reins and not get too caught up in the moment…
BUT, that being said…
What part of ‘O’ being anything but Anti-Israel do you not understand?
I believe I understand well what Mr. Obama represents.
This strange story does not suggest it is a matter of statecraft.
It is all too clumsy, too ham-fisted, for any President, even this one, with his now (in)famous and nearly daily rage at a seemingly endless parade of targets – especially considering his apparent antipathy towards Israel.
Yes, of course, it could be exactly what it seems, another deliberate attempt to humiliate and isolate Israel.
Or not.
Perhaps the Israelis themselves in some way (or even largely) are responsible for this.
There are many, many layers to the workings of national security, intelligence, and warfare. There are worlds unseen, and forever totally invisible, the likes of which we will never know.
For one instant I do not doubt the Israelis or the US capabilities in these matters.
Beware.
(And be wary.)
Yet, time will tell.
Wait.
Watch.
Listen.
There is more to this story.
Of course it is possible there is more to the story, but it’s frankly unimaginable to me that whatever revelations remain hidden to the public are contradictory to the policies and intentions revealed by the WH’s statements, and actions, these past few weeks. How can Israel draw any other conclusions than the US has abandoned them to their own devices? If it walks and talks like a duck . . .
PREDICTION
ISRAEL WILL GO TO WAR.(SYRIA,LEBANON,& IRAN:VIA PROXY HEZBOLLAH AND HAMAS)
ISRAEL WILL WIN
ISRAEL WILL GAIN TERRITORY.
NOT MUCH OF A PREDICTION THIS IS ALL IN THE BIBLE: STUDY THE PROPHECIES OF THE BIBLE (PROVEN 100% ACCURATE ALL THE TIME)
ISRAEL WOULD BE LEFT TO FEND FOR THEM SELVES (AMERICA IS DECLINING IN STATURE BECAUSE THEY HAVE TURNED THEIR BACK ON ISRAEL; PROOF? LOOK AT OUR ECONOMY, OUR EMPLOYMENT, OUR STORMS, FLOODS, DROUGHT ETC) GENESIS 12:3 LOOK IT UP!
PSALMS 83 WAR IS COMING SOON.
ISRAEL WILL GAIN MORE REAL ESTATE AND THE WORLD WILL BE MORE ADVERSARIAL WITH ISRAEL. ( YOU CAN LOOK IT UP IN THE BIBLE) NOTHING NEW HERE……..G-D BLESS ISRAEL…….G-D HAVE MERCY ON AMERICA AND THE WORLD FOR OUR REJECTION OF YOUR WORD (BIBLE)
Tighten your seat belts,it’s gonna be a bumpy night, or rather a bumpy 2 years unless he does something he can be impeached for. The only thing that surprises me is how fast he seems to be moving now with his lunatic agenda. He is getting cockier by the minute which could be to our advantage in that it could lead to his downfall but at the same time it may take a long time to recover from the damage, if we can at all.
The workers from Dimona reactor would be disappointed by this new American policy but it doesn’t really matter to Israel with the VISA rejections as there are other countries like France and Germany which provide the same level of university educations in Physics, Chemistry and Nuclear Engineering.
What matters is the fact that USA is trying to discourage other nations like Israel to achieve nuclear capabilities while maintaining business relations with many other developing nations in regards of nuclear power and supply. We simply don’t get the double standards Mr. Barack Obama.
’0′ will stand with Muslims.
I will always and forever as GOD is my WITNESS, stand with the JEWS.
אלוהים יברך ישראל
As will I!
AMEN!
” Israeli defense officials are stating these workers have no criminal records in the U.S. or Israel and have been singled out purely because of their place of employment.”
Yeah I can see how they can be targeted for their profession. Could be just the clerk over at the embassy. Probably saying look at this nuclear scientist; thinks he/she is sooo smart. Then they’ll tell them they don’t have sufficient evidence. See ya later…….
” Here is an opportunity for Canadian Prime Minister Harper to show leadership by extending invitations to those nuclear scientists.”
That wouldn’t be too much to ask for. Unless he is out for another vacation.
Reference and links regarding America and Israel:
The Psalm 83 Revealing; Coincidence or Providence
http://prophecynewsstand.blogspot.com/2010/03/psalm-83-revealing-coincidence-or.html
watch the video “As America Does to Israel”
http://www.defendproclaimthefaith.org/obadiah_15.html
Enjoy the many examples of America enduring
1. The perfect storm
2. Hurricane Katrina
3 Northridge earthquake
among many calamities befall America when America curses Israel.
Hope you will watch and view with an open mind.
Time to pray for AMERICA and our leaders to BLESS ISRAEL ……
I think all Obama’s nuclear posturing and dismissive treatment of Israel and Netanyahu mean that Israel has definitely decided to take some kind of action against Iran and Obama is livid. Obama is trying to shame, punish and marginalize Israel but the decision’s been made.
The USA is no longer the ‘GOOD GUY’ any longer.
From ‘heroes’ to ‘zeros’ in the span of one stupid presidential election cycle.
Yes, Virginia, elections have consequences.
This is shameful. Vote in 2010/2012, vote like you mean it!
Maybe if Israel signed the Nuclear Non-Proliferation Treaty and abided by it’s terms, the scientists from their nuclear facilities would be given visas.
Why should a country that is surrounded by enemies that vastly outnumber it and have repeatedly sworn it’s destruction, and repeatedly tried to implement that destruction, give up the best weapons that it has to defend itself?
That would be like a male balerina in drag walking through the Bronks after midnight with no means of self defense…..SUICIDE
Who else has signed the NNPT? What access do they give? Do they expect Israel to give more access that they?
These questions need honest answers.
Every country in the world has signed the NPPT with the exception of India, Israel, North Korea and Pakistan.
Hey, Iran isn’t on that list!!! Lot of good that Treaty does???
OK we, Israel, need to get a backbone and NOW, and speak truth to power, we need to call the Jew-hating Obama admin exactly what they are – Jew-haters. We actually have nothing to lose, since we are on our own whether we grovel before America or not. So why grovel? It makes things worse in fact. However I don’t count on that happening, TA will go up in a mushroom cloud and Obama will go on calling for Jews to stop building homes in Jerusalem and amidst a million deaths and Hiroshima flames, Bibi and Oren will talk about how “great” things are with the Abomination in the White House.
To all liberal Americans who voted for this guy, JINOs included, I wish you the worst. To the rest of America, I just hope you pull through, but remember Obama is a symptom, not the cause – you want to know where the problem lies, it lies much deeper and it is pervasive, with your schools and universities and dumb dumb media, and junk TV and Hollywood and of course this is a malaise and obtuseness that pervades the whole Western world, Israel included.
Such a decadent, obtuse and infantile society cannot fight back at all effectively against an enemy it refuses to understand, the enemy without (the Jihad) and the enemy within, the mush-headed zombies that are liberals – in America, in Europe, the UK and Israel herself.
In Israel just below the surface there is such a tension, a terrible sense of foreboding, and hardly anybody wants to talk about it, but it is everywhere. Occasionally it breaks through, and somebody will say what is on all our minds (not the crazies of course), and there is a grave silence and then a change of topic. It is difficult to articulate this sense of impending catastrophe that we can do nothing about, and people go on with their lives like they always have with matter-of-factness, as people always do in times of pending catastrophes throughout history, because of course what else can you do?
I am not a religious man, but when they speak of false prophets, they speak of Obama more than any other in our day and age. In fact we ought to coin a new word, a neologism, a false prophet in future ages after this whole nightmare is passed should just be called an Obama. And yes even if the worst happens, the West will survive and get past this Jihad horror that it actually inflicted on itself through weakness and self-loathing (even if it’s twenty or fifty or a hundred and fifty years from now). And everybody will know what you mean straight away when you call somebody an Obama, oh a false prophet.
I expected the worst when this clown was elected by idiots. The Abomination (isn’t that a strange coincidence, abomination/obamanation) has fulfilled my worst expectations and then some, and it has only just begun…
I like that…”JINO’s”…
like raHAMAN Emmanuel!
I have seen some great stuff on Israeli blogs..
“Half-Frican American”….”Immanutjob” & the very serious one to consider A”mahdi”nejad!!The Israeli’s were also telling the truth about President “Muslim half-Bro” Hussein Obama,BEFORE our election but the 78% of US JINO’s who voted for him,weren’t listening!
Shalom International will be having protests,in the next few weeks in Sarasota,Florida,DC & NYC..get involved!!
wwwdefendjerusalem.net
Am Israel Chai!!!!!!!!!!!!!
I hear you. At the very least, there are people like Daniel Hannan, Rocco Buttiglione, Jason Kenney, Ezra Levant, and Mark Steyn who are on the ramparts taking on the willfully deaf, dumb, blind & ignorant.
I am reminded that in the Byzantine Empire, it was the Emperors who fell into the trap that Antiochus little boots fell into (the Seleucid emperor who launched the maccabean revolt, which ended in the first victory in the ancient world over the tyrants presumed right to regulate heart and realm), but not the Orthodox Church. For at least the most humane Orthodox clergy took their cues from Justin Martyr, instead of those who would see vengeance meted upon the Jews.
We need to work together to reclaim what has been lost due to what the Greeks call “Akidia” or “accidie” which
is simply paralysis of the soul, a slackness of the mind, amongst other things.
Obama the schoolgirl is just following his schoolgirl script being written by his schoolmarm. Idiot puppet or manchurian candidate? Does it matter? The point here is to draw the wicked out onto the battlefield and then destroy them all. The stage is still being set so be patient and be kind. Just remember truth always wins in the end and vengence belongs to the Lord and He will not withhold much longer. We can all vote in November but standing for the truth today is most important. It is right to speak the truth and doing so will help preserve your souls. If you haven’t noticed, these are “the times that try mens souls”.
Once again be patient, be kind and trust in God, He has a plan and He is executing it. One thing we must all see about this time is that the sheep are being separated from the goats, the wheat from the chaff. Open your eyes and see. Of course God’s enemies hate Israel and Christians and do they ever want to take their guns and nukes away. Why? Because they want to kill them all. Do they know this about themselves? Maybe not. The blind cannot see and the deaf cannot hear for they are deceived. We want them to be rational and understanding. Not possible in their current deceived state of being.
I can’t sleep. Just like Larry #77 I have a deep sense of foreboding. Its not just Israel or the Jews, if I were Christian I’d recognize it too. Something is horribly amiss here and its going to involve all of us.
Many Christians (myself included) are freaking out, Oscar.
I used to laugh at people speaking of “the end times” and the “Apocalypse” but, now? I don’t know…I just don’t know…
As we’ve learned from History…
All it takes is one Madman and enough Mad-men with the same beliefs…
I’m not prepared for this and I know I need to be.
…but anyone who questions Obama’s background and religious upbringing is a nutcase or a “Birther” or a “racist.’ (You know, when you say those words and phrases, you’re just repeating the MSM and White House propaganda for them donchya?)
Actions speak louder than words, people. Ducks, Obama, walking, quacking, you know the drill…if you’ve got any sense left, that is.
Aside from anything else, by some estimates, Israel has four hundred nukes. In the current international climate, love them or hate them, abandoning them to the tender mercies of their enemies is probably not a smart thing to do. …unless the end result is to see half a billion Muslims dead or dying and Israel all but destroyed along the way…
2/3 of the Jews will perish, but Israel abides forever.
Well, having worked in the visa industry, my immediate assumption is that someone in the United States government has reason to believe that these scientists are spies. Israel, like France and China, is very proficient at technology theft.
Are you denying the existence of the CIA? and if your theory is correct, why don’t the deny visas to French scientists too?
What?
The CIA works closely with the State Department. Very, very closely.
If I am right, I don’t know why other scientists are not being denied. Perhaps they are. Perhaps no one believes the scientists from those other countries are spying. It’s not a blanket thing. Spying is happening right now in the United States. Every country has its CIA and almost every one has an embassy in the United States. Yet we still allow people and scientists from those countries to enter the country.
Clinton did the same in 1998 with nuclear scientists from India. It is not at all untypical for US presidents (especially of the worst type, such as 0bama–who made a fool of himself on his first visit to Ottawa (1) and also bowed to the degenerate monarch of a country whom the US had earlier (2) defended) to attempt vengeance after being snubbed by denying visas to those of the snubbing country.
(1) it was his first trip out-of-country; CanadaFreePress.com covered it in much detail, as did much-more-liberal “Globe And Mail”–both agreed 0bama floundered before Harper, becoming the first POTUS to surrender his position to Canada.
(2) in 1991, US (under Jorge Bush Sr) had defended Saudi Arabia against Iraq–only to get “stiffed” for payments and then attacked by Saudi hijackers 2001/09/11.
Has Israel ever formally acknowledged their worst-kept “secret” as to the purpose of their Negev research facility, or do they continue to deny its use for the production of their nuclear weapons?
Considering the recent efforts by this administration to reduce nukes, and particularly in light of the upcoming nuclear security summit in Washington, it would be somewhat counterproductive at this time to issue visas to these scientists under a false pretense that their research is nothing but “peaceful”.
If the world is to be divided into openly declared nuclear states, rogue nuclear states, or non-nuclear states then Israel needs to decide which it is and deal with the outcomes; just as any others are expected to.
I’m not sure why Israel doesn’t acknowledge it has nukes but when did it become US policy to punish them for it? Well, today I guess. I for one am glad they have them.
Whether or not Isreal has nukes, they are not a rogue state.
What next? Yellow armbands with the Star of David?
That Obama bunch aint going anywhere without assistance, despots never do. This may be the first time in American history that there will not be a peaceful change of power. The Obama regime must be nuetralized long before 2012 elections-before the mid-term elections this year would’nt be soon enough for me. Pelosi and company may just ‘deem’ a lifetime presidential appointment for Obama. I really don’t know how long it will be before we sweep this bunch like so much useless garbage out of our house. I, for one have sharpened my pitchfork and my torch is at the ready. Anyone want to go to D.C.?
Funny thing about Daniel chapter 5. No one likes it.
While many Jews managed to get out of Germany before it was too late in anticipation of what happened there, many who could have done so did not. I assume (but obviously don’t know) that they simply did not believe their own lying eyes and ears. I suspect that many leftist (I purposely do not use the word liberal anymore in the political context) Jews are so deluded by their political ideology that they are in denial.
A bit of introspection makes this more comprehensible. We have a very pleasant life here in Panama despite the occasional rough spots. If, over a period of years, things were to approach the intolerable, we would probably try to hang on and hope for the best. If the line between barely tolerable and clearly intolerable were crossed, a reluctance to believe that it had happened would persist. Probably, we would be caught in a completely intolerable situation before we became convinced that it had happened, and then it would be too late.
Could this explain why leftist Jews in the United States as well as in Israel are in denial? Or is it simply a form of masochism?
Impeach Obama Now!
An Arab forces a plane to the ground by activating the smoke alarm and jokes about having a bomb in his shoe. What did he get for these two criminal acts? Nothing! Israeli nuclear scientists can’t get Visas to the USA. What have they done? Nothing!
It has gone far beyond ridiculous to hilarious. November 2nd makes me smile.
Do you suppose maybe the Jewish voting block will wise up and vote against this administration and its supporters?
No.
Since the next big push in this administration before 2012 is for Amnesty bringing 15-20 million new Democratic voters. I would not look for Barry to be going anywhere anytime soon, this is why he and Pelosi are feeling so empowered. “Yes They Can”
Two major things happened this morning Supreme Court Justice Stevens announced his retirement and Stupak said he wouldn’t run for re-election. One is bad, the other is good. Is there a crack showing in the left? We’ll see how America reacts to all this. Cap and Trade is next folks. I know that this has nothing to do with what Obama is doing to Israel; but, its a welcome diversion.
The retirement of Stevens is not good, but don’t think it’s all that bad. He’s the most liberal member of the SC, so it’s going to be hard for Barry to replace him with someone further to the left. He’s also the smartest of the remaining liberals, so unless Barry replaces him someone as far to the left and as smart, the liberal wing will still be weakened.
God willing, a newly energized Republican Senate will put their collective feet and demand a moderate. (Yea, and pigs fly)
Obama denies visas to allies but issues them for enemies. The Obama administration recently issued a travel visa to Tariq Ramadan to enable him to speak at Georgetown University. The Bush administration revoked his visa in 2004 for a variety of reasons, including support of the brutal regime in the Sudan, links to an Algerian jihadist, connections to al-Qaeda sympathizer Ahmed Brahim, and possible dealings with deputy head of al-Qaeda Ayman al-Zawahiri and “blind sheikh” Omar Adbel Rahman—the grandson of Hassan Al Banna, the founder of the Muslim Brotherhood.
Read THE OBAMA TIMELINE to learn how we got into this mess.
Roger you maybe right about the Israeli visas story but Politico is reporting the White House denies this. I’m sure it was pressure from you all that got those commie fascists to back down. It is strange that these modern commie fascists just aren’t as ruthless as those from the days of old.
Um, the Whitehouse denies this?
Is it possible the report is neither accurate or true?
What is interesting (and understandable) is how quickly people are willing to pounce on this story.
Emotions are running high.
True ‘dat.
But the story was never as I could tell verified, or corroborated, yet it fit with a Narrative that resonated deeply and painfully with so many supporters of Israel.
Maybe the Israelis made the story up to stir up support?
Maybe the US made the story up to see what the reaction would be?
Maybe the Israelis were in danger if they came here? Maybe the Israelis had mischief on their minds?
Who knows.
The point is that Mr. Simon’s post created a Kos-like frenzy.
Not helpful. Not adaptive. Not in control.
As I wrote above, we don’t know and will likely never know the real story here, but there is (almost) always more than meets the eye, and this case is but just on example.
And to Seven Machos: Yes, our national security apparatus has its eyes and ears everywhere.
Everywhere.
Just sayin’.
There are all sorts of possibilities.
Maybe it became policy for Foggy Bottom until it hit the fan and was just as quickly changed for the late night news update.
They don’t have to make a policy statement public but just deny visas on an individual basis; until of course the circumstantial evidence becomes overwhelming.
There have been so many things said by this current administration out of both sides of its mouth, on internal matters and foreign policy, that it is not easy to know what is correct.
My points were, and remain, that the timing and nature of this story are both very strange.
Heretofore, there has been no independent or corroborative information either confirming or elucidating was was purported to have occurred.
What is clear, is the hysterical reaction to the story, which for many reasons is understandable, but is neither advised or particularly adaptive.
The continued lack of new or clarifying information only deepens my suspicion that the story is bullshit, or more likely, something real is happening, but outside our level of knowledge or understanding.
Until more is learned, it would be reasonable to be patient for the time being, and not resort to the ad hominem and vitriolic.
Stay away from the Kool-aid, Red or Blue.
“the United States doesn’t sell anything nuclear-related to the Dimona reactor, and that means absolutely nothing..”
Helloooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo …..
Why, pray tell, do you think the U.S. doesn’t sell anything used there?
When your Mideast policy is formed by doubling down on attitudes of Jimmy Qatar, you get the same results…on steroids.
Being held hostage by Iran is not restricted to a handful of Americans, the whole of the country and all of our allies as well would suit a Robert Malley and Zbigniew Brzezinski just fine.
We seem intent on throwing away a relationship that provides us our most key information in protecting our land from those who mean to harm us, just to flex the Jesse Jackson announced “muscle” of reducing the influence of “Hymietown” lineage.
To do that, this administration seems quite willing to throw the Bibi out with the bath water.
Obama is trying to strangle Israel because he and his consider Israel an enemy. Period.
I wonder what dual-citizen Rahm Emanuel thinks of all this?
Every day the Obama administration does or says something that makes me wonder if they are out of their minds. Really. I am just sort of amazed at all this. Why would they do this?
I just hope…all the Jews who voted for the “messiah” they’ve been waiting for….are satisfied that they’ve now begun another pogrum…another kristalnacht. Will they never learn that worldwide, Jews are still hated. Even in the enlightened countries of the West? WTF is wrong with these people? Haven’t they seen that this man….from his madrassa schooling…his Indonesia muslim upbringing…to his membership in the racist, hateful anti Jew Chicago “church” of Jeremiah Wrong….down the street from Calypso Louies hate mosque…is doing the bidding of the Islamist Nazi’s? Who…and you all know this has called for another holocaust? You silly, naive people.
History is repeating itself before your very eyes…once again…yet you just love this little lawn ornament…don’t ya?
From a liberal East Coast family who voted straight Democratic for generations. NO MORE! Yes some of us do learn.
Maybe the denial of visas, assuming the report is accurate, is another reason that Netanyahu pulled out of Obigot’s nuclear beauty pageant.
Here’s what’s next.
This is Obama’s major objective for his “Posturing.” It’s not Iran that’s the bad guy, it’s Israel. Or, at best, they are equal. Demon a$$hole!
Reuter’s April 9, 2010
Netanuyahu Ducks Nuclear Summit, fearing Censure
Egypt and Turkey will demand Israel sign NPT
http://www.reuters.com/article/idUSTRE6375QC20100409
UPDATE: National Jewish Democratic Council CEO Ira Forman says in an email statement that he’s checked with Israeli officials, who told him “Israel does not perceive any change in the U.S. policy regarding this matter.”
So now all of you can unbunch your panties. The original story was untrue. Well done, though. If you keep the hyperbolic knob pegged at 11 you can drown out the sound of the loose marbles bouncing around in your heads.
” who told him “Israel does not perceive any change in the U.S. policy regarding this matter.” ”
Yes of course as no change was published; but it could very well be a change in procedure at the functional level of vetting requests where place of employment becomes a number one target. This level of consular service would not be publicized. The steps taken to issuing a visa are in a particular country not made known to the public nor to the state in question.
God, what the hell happened to you, Roger? You used to be so levelheaded, but you’ve turned into somebody who will instantly believe any old BS you read on the Internet as long as it agrees with your burgeoning paranoia. It’s really sad.
Pajamas Media, if I recall, started as a venture that was dedicated to actually getting down to the truth of matters that were not well or accurately reported by the MSM. Now it’s nothing more than a repeater for every mad conspiracy theory that circulates around the right wing.
Shame.
Maybe these people see something you don’t. I just had a conversation with somebody who thought (me also) that Rush Limbaugh was a total nut. Now this person is going around thinking that Rush is a modern version of Samuel the Prophet. Everything Rush spoke about has come true and this person is really spooked. Give yourself some time, keep an open mind. You might see rush as a prophet some day.
“You might see Rush as a prophet some day”. Wow, this really is church. Complete with excommunication for questioning the words of the prophets.
That’s scary. You really ought to give yourself a few minutes to think about what you’re saying there.
Yes my son, go wash your fingers with some Chicago holy water and say three hail Obamas.
What part of this ‘scoop’ was unbelievable to you? Please tell me where the Zero-Admin has made our Allies feel safe or even on friendly terms any longer and especially Israel?
How DARE you call Roger some ‘loon’ when he’s privy to things many of us are NOT. What is going on right now with the USA is unconscionable!
TAKE THE BLINDERS OFF.
Touting something as fact merely because you find it “believable” is exactly the kind of irresponsible quasi-journalism that I’m referring to. And, how “DARE” I question? I dare because it’s my responsibility as a citizen and a human being to critically assess any and all sources of information. If PM is past that point then you might as well have the ushers pass the basket, because now it’s religion, not news.
If anyone, including Jordan, can explain to me why someone like Jordan finds his own views attractive, I would be eternally grateful. No sarcasm, please. Serious replies only.
There is no human phenomenon so mysterious as a Progressive. Even being a devout Muslim or a consistent Communist makes more sense.
I just got banned by Huffington Post. Its amazing they are less tolerant than we are. What a bunch of left wing hypocrites. The poison they spew is so bad that it is indescribable. Yet they let it go on and worse cheer it on. I must say I did have a great time. They can’t mount a logical argument and are ignorant of basic facts.
Here is their spin: Netanyahu has snubbed Obama by not attending the Nuclear summit. They question why would anybody do such a terrible thing to such a friend and also insult this country in the process. Honest, I swear this is true.
Oscar, Huffpo is sickening. Anti-Semitic vitriol is embraced there and if you don’t carefully word your responses your ‘posts’ magically ‘disappear’ and eventually, yep, you go to ‘band camp’.
My neighbor’s Father lives in Israel. The feelings towards the USA are (rightfully) not good. We have become ‘frenemies’ of the worst order to people who trusted us.
As long as Tel Aviv is not nuked before the 2012 elections Obama can still count on the majority of the Jewish vote. Obama and the Democrats can do whatever they want to Israel with virtually zero electoral consequences.
I don’t know about that SAF. I’ve heard many comments by former “koolaid” drinkers that would lead me to question your premise. Recently, I went to a large meeting where both a liberal jew supporting Obama and a conservative Jew not supporting him were speakers. The only snickers I heard were for the liberal’s comments about Obama’s support for the Jewish nation and his excuses for Obama’s seemingly anti-Israel behavior, and resounding applause for the other speaker who was not complimentary but respectful to the president.
Having seen many presidents, this is the first time I’m really scared. One had only to look at his past associations and his writings to know what he really was. For the first time in my voting life, I did not vote for the democrat nominee.
Some will continue to make excuses for him but most now understand for what he really stands. I can only say that those that do not learn from history will eventually repeat it. Is he the anti-Christ, no. Is he a muslim sympathizer, yes. Is he trying to turn the country in a direction of support for a theology that purports to spread their control worldwide? Unfortunately for us, I think the answer is yes, of course, under the guise of better understanding for our fellowmen.
Esther:
I hope you are right but when Obama won the nomination there was all sorts of speculation in the press everywhere that women would be angry and cross over and vote for McCain. We know this did not happen.
But in the last election Obama won 75% or so of the Jewish vote and will win a majority again if Tel Aviv is intact.
It would take many thinking Esthers to turn the tide and I really doubt they are out there.
SAF
The White House denial seems odd given that I was told by a State Department spokesperson that federal law prohibits (see above) discussing individual visa cases.
What’s law got to do, got to do with it?
Rule of man replaces rule of law.
Neither major party has shown fidelity to the most virtuous nation on the planet, Israel. The reason for it is that our foreign policy is motivated by making a quick buck, and the truth is ignored. Of course it is the truth that endures.
Very bad karma for the U.S. State Department,the current administration, and both parties.
The harrowing part of the TRUTH of which you speak is how many of us (probably in the MAJORITY) are in support of our friend and Ally Israel and yet, the scum, the vile spew of antisemitic rhetoric is all that gets aired on many US channels.
Dimona means Dimoon of Blood which is in my village called Eri in motion.
The problem with the jews community , is the liberal one; They do not want to see, and believed everything Obama said; this is the same what happened in Germany; they said” No; Hitler” only wants the best he wants CHANGE” well; those that stayed too long got the Change; I am not implying Obama is Hitler, before , anybody jumps on me, however,the relation ship with Israel is deteriorating, and Obama is NOT the right president for this Country, Period!!.
I am not a religious person, but in case of Israel, I believe , we have to do our best to defend a country, that should belong to the Jews, who made a Great State from nothing.;I am sick and tires hearing, the Palestinians want to be a state as well; they can if they want , but u know what? first for them is the Koran, then hate the Jews and then?? I do not know what else is important to them; what can You say of Muslims that kill their own family , because they marry or get used to American values?? not much , can you??
Raul it is the Jewish community, not “the jews community”.
This is from the latest Gallup Poll 56% of the American Jews support Obama. That’s down from the high of 78%. That makes for a 22% shift.
44% now oppose him. Just think he did all that in one year, If we can get 22% to shift every year. Hopefully that means that when our Sun God is up for re-election there could be a 66% shift and make 88% of the Jewish population anti-Obama. Even if only half of that becomes true, the Jewish vote will be a push. Obama will not be re-elected. Wake up America, if we can have a 22% shift, you can do it too. Who’s for a little tea? Please sugar mine with 22% more sweetener.
The American Jewish community helped elect our esteemed Chief Mullah, so I feel they are getting what they deserve.
Unfortunately, we’re all in the same imperiled boat that Jewish voters irrationally helped put us in. At least they also helped put the lie to the goyim myth that all Jews are smart.
The biggest mistake that past American adminisrations committed was hypocritically allowing Israel a pass in not signing the NPT- and not pressuring compliance with its terms. It has now prejudiced the changes to stop the spread of nuclear weaponry.Until all nations on this globe are treated equitably we will continue to have the problem of Iran, Brazil, Egypt and Saudi Arabia working clandestinly to attain nukes.
If he becomes just that then the people of the United States will have blood on their hands due to electing this incompetent, petulant, chunk of worthless DNA.
This clown is going to kill us all one way or another.
I am not a religious person, but in case of Israel, I believe , we have to do our best to defend a country, that should belong to the Jews, who made a Great State from nothing.;I am sick and tires hearing, the Palestinians want to be a state as well; they can if they want , but u know what? first for them is the Koran, then hate the Jews and then?? I do not know what else is important to them; what can You say of Muslims that kill their own family , because they marry or get used to American values?? not much , can you??