What’s the hurry? “I need $800 billion and I need it now, today.” Thus President Obama (summa dixit) shortly after taking office last winter. Maybe it’s all part of what Governor Mitch Daniels has called the Obama administration’s “shock and awe statism”: startle the punters with outrageous demands. Then tell them you want them met immediately, toot sweet, eftsoons and right speedily. “Don’t bother reading the bill, just give me the money.” It really was a breathtaking performance. He almost got away with it.
Almost. Sure, he got the dough. But the rumble you’ve been hearing in the background are doubts congregating. Any real stimulus does–what? It stimulates. And what has the President’s “stimulus” (really, a spending) package given us (apart from higher taxes coming to a paycheck near you, I mean)? Take your time . . .
Anyway, now that Obama is trying a repeat performance with the way we provide health care in this country, that rumble I mentioned is growing into a deafening roar. Yesterday, Obama had the temerity to insist that his plan to nationalize health care be passed RIGHT NOW, before Congress recessed in August. Then he compounded the temerity by insisting that “the deadline isn’t being set by me. It’s being set by the American people.” Oh yeah? Or rather, sez who?
Last week, I was having lunch with a politically astute friend who observed that Obama’s unseemly haste was a trademark. Maybe it’s all part of the Rahm Emmanuel policy of not letting a good crisis go to waste. Whatever the origin of Obama’s impatience, it ought to be resisted. As my friend pointed out, Obama’s gambit actually conceals a cynical and unflattering view of the electorate. “Pass this humongous, multi-trillion dollar bill to nationalize and ration health care right now or it will never pass.”
Right you are, Pres! But hold on. My friend was quite right that the reason for the haste unseemly was Obama’s recognition that were his plan to impose socialized medicine subject to normal scrutiny, it would be subject to what the internists among you would describe as the political analogue of reverse peristalsis: i.e., the public would vomit it back into the laps of PelosiKennedy and soon to-be-former Senator Reid. I’m sure he was right about that.
Here are a few things to keep in mind:
– Universal health insurance is not the same thing as universal health care.
I hate to belabor the obvious, but it may be worth pointing out that what the Democrats’ plan amounts to is a giant government-run boondoggle. It will increase the intrusiveness of government bureaucrats; it will increase the time you wait (unless you work for the government) for a medical procedure; for most people, it will certainly increase what you pay for health care. What it will erode is the relationship between doctor and patient and the overall quality of health care. A KimballQuickInvestmentTip: if the health care legislation is passed in anything like its current format, buy stock in funeral homes and gurney manufacturers. They’ll have a boom.
– Health care is not a right, it is a service.
‘”What’s the hurry? “I need $800 billion and I need it now, today.” Thus President Obama….’
A huge change from Bush, whose Sec. of the Treas. wanted (how many billions?) based on a 4-page proposal.
“…his plan to impose socialized medicine….”
Ah, the old scare tactics. Reminds me of the fight against Medicare. And we all know how unpopular that program is, especially with our seniors.
“…the proposed health care legislation would make it more, not less, difficult for doctors and hospitals ro donate services to the needy.”
Heaven forbid basic health care would be a right and not doled out as a charity.
“No, I’m not holding my breath.”
Oh, c’mon, Roger, hold your breath!
Once again, Roger, you are spot on. Especially your last paragraph. Bill Clinton was many things (no need to catalog them here). He may have been centrist and perhaps liberal-leaning, but the one thing he was not was an ideologue. Oboma has been suckling on the teat of radicalism, Marxism and America hatred virtually since birth. He himself said he wanted to “remake America.”
If we somehow manage to halt the twin suicide pills of health care “reform” and cap and tax, then barring some unseen events his presidency is finished.
Just say no to BO and his ideas. He is a disaster for our country and our economy, don’t let him ruin health care too. The only emergency is his popularity, bring out the crash cart, CPR may be needed.
And comparing him to either Clinton is ridiculous, he is Jimmy Carter with Mom-jeans instead of a cardigan.
Outside government, when someone you hardly know wants you to sign on for something (time-share, used car), there is a word for it: hustle.
“Wake me up when he fires Rahm Emmanuel and David Axelrod.”
That’s okay, shortly the American people will do it for him. They’ll also fire McCain and every last one of the elected Obama drones in Congress, as well as those in all 57 of our states.
Then they will put Mr. Obama on a rail and run him out of town where he can spend the rest of his life bad mouthing sitting presidents and America just like Carter and Clinton do.
Probably write a Nobel Prise winning book or two.
“My Friends, The Racist Bastards of America.” A book about how the earnest dreams and desires of a young black man to bring hope and change to America were destroyed by a bunch of Right Wing Extremists and Israel.
Or,
“The Dirty Lies of Our Forefathers.” A book about the secret codes that the founders of our country hid inside the Declaration of Independence and our Constitution that guarantee no black man will ever succeed as president.
The sweetest sound I’ve heard recently is the sound of the every day citizens LAUGHING AT a pompous Congressman yesterday somewhere in the Midwest–as he delivered, down the length of his pretentious nose–declarations about how the health care (actually, that would be health destruction…but that’s another story) bill would deliver the equivalent of profits in 10 years.
They were laughing AT him…and when he tried to speak over them by repeatedly saying, “It’s really important that you understand….” the laughter got louder and boos were added.
Sweet.
And sweet…not just for an adolescent show of disrespect (which it was definitely not)…sweet because this represented a breakout of common sense public declaration that declared, “You know what, you liars? We’re done being nice. We’re done being intimidated. We’re not buying the crap and we’re going to stop letting you publicly set us up to make it look like we are.”
That laughter and derision is the most honest sound I’ve heard in a public, political event in a very long time.
bibio 44,
If you can guarantee no rationing, choice of doctor, lower costs, no loss of profits in the industry, no waiting, and accelerated innovation, I will support socialized medicine. You can’t guarantee one of those items. In fact, every socialized medical system harms patients becuase care is secondary to cost. Cost always wins and patients always lose, except for the apparachicks. One size fits all, fits none of us in the long run.
Mr. Kimball,
There are three considerations driving Obama’s haste, one of which you certainly know, but the other two bear mentioning.
First, Obama wants to strike while he still has power. He’s sure to lose power in the midterm elections, just by the electoral math (most of the competitive seats have already gone to democrats on his coattails). With the crises and Bush Derangement Syndrome mostly past, the perfect storm that gave him these huge majorities is almost over. This isn’t news, but it is worth reiterating.
Second, this is Year One. Anything he gets rammed through now he can justify in terms of the crisis, but more importantly, he’s counting on moderates (a fickle and superficial crowd) to simply forget about it. Years two through four can be filled with superficial gestures towards the center, which the media will eat up. In other words, he’s counting on public forgetfulness.
Finally, as you know, Obama is counting on a principle in economics discovered by researchers (the late) Amos Tversky and Daniel Kahneman. Economists had predicted that how an issue is framed shouldn’t make a difference in perception; losing $100 dollars three times should be the same as losing $300 one time, and losing $100 should be ten times as undesirable as losing $10. T/K proved them wrong, inventing a concept called prospect theory to describe the results of a series of experiments they conducted. It’s now considered the gold standard in economics.
The practical upshot for Obama is this. First, when it comes to really big numbers, the public won’t distinguish between big (President Bush’s prescription drug benefit), really big (the Iraq War) and stupendously big (Obamacare). Obamacare may be objectively far, far larger than the other two, but to the public, they’re all Really Big Numbers. Second, when you’re doling out news, you want to issue the bad news in big dollops, get it all out in one big lump, but issue the good news in dribs and drabs. (President Bush learned this the hard way in Iraq, where historically light casualties spread out over time overwhelmed big success stories like the quick end to major combat operations, elections and the surge).
So in that context, rushing things through is an attempt to wildly overextend in one apocalyptic summer, giving Obama more than a year to recover with a steady stream of minor gestures that, cumulatively, don’t add up to anything but are perceived as an overall history of moderation.
This is the social science equivalent of an optical illusion and only counts on Obama being able to ram his policies through quickly. With dominating majorities in both houses of congress, Obama has the ideal conditions to hammer this stuff through, and still preserve his moderate image come 2012 (or even 2010!).
A Haiku
Obama has failed
The worst President ever
Jimmy Carter smiles
He’s already trending lower than Jimmy Carter in the Presidential approval tracking poll.
http://www.usatoday.com/news/washington/presidential-approval-tracker.htm
I think the “smart” Democrats are starting to abandon the Obama ship. It’s looking more and more like the Titanic.
You are lucky it is NOT as much of a “stimulus” bill as was put out by Hoover. Stimulus is a bad word. The fact that Obama is screwing it up is a good thing. Maybe we will recover faster. After all in 1920 there was NO stimulus and government spending was reduced, and we got out of that one just fine.
Bill Clinton is a better educated than Barack Obama. His I.Q. is also probably significantly higher. Obama is president only because of white guilt. I am unaware of any president in our nation’s history that was so ill prepared to handle their responsibilities. Obama is not even close to being ready for prime time. I also question his sanity. Will Obama be able to finish out his term? I doubt it very much.
Hurry up and wait…
Obamas reverse idea for letting the House and Senate come up with a health bill is great.
Now if he will let them do the Crap and Trade legislation we will see passage in 2013 just in time for our next president to veto.
“Unseemly haste…”? I’d think a more accurate description would be “Calculated haste.”
Obama knows that rushing this through before the Congressional break means no chance of anyone reading all 1,018 pages and knowing what’s hidden in the details.
Isn’t it odd that the American President doesn’t want the citizens to have a chance to read such an important piece of legislation? Where’s that “transparency” we were promised?
13 David Thomson:
Will Obama be able to finish out his term? I doubt it very much…………
Everyone seems to think he is trying to overthrow the Government- Socialism, Communism- whatever?
I am beginning to think he doesn’t know Shite about much of anything-
except reading his teleprompter.
Wow-
I forgot-
Tonight is the big night he will have 4 prompters set up for the big speech.
Great,
sports network has women volleyball reruns.
Mr. Obama’s public facade will crack at some point. He’ll be revealed as imperious and peevish for all to see. I’m starting to suspect that there’s something pathologically wrong with the man. At the very least he suffers from some sort of personality disorder. This, too, will be revealed in time.
I was drawn in by the headline, but I didn’t make it out of the first paragraph. The only thing more pretentious than using an obscure Latin term in a general-interest article is using a Latin term that is SO obscure, it can’t even be defined with the help of Google:
http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&rlz=1B3GGIC_en__267US271&q=%22summa+dixit%22&btnG=Search&aq=f&oq=&aqi=
Gurney manufacturers?? There’s no way Congress and Obama are going to squander money on gurneys when it can be better spent subsidizing their lavish lifestyles! Maybe wheelbarrows. They can chuck your carcass in one of those on the way to the flatbed trailer.
I’ll be willing to accept Obama’s new health care proposal the day every single member of Congress, every employee of the White House from the President on down, and every Justice on the Supremem Court agrees the new plan will apply to them as well.
17. ~Paules wrote:
Mr. Obama’s public facade will crack at some point. He’ll be revealed as imperious and peevish for all to see.
Peter writes: It’s already happening. Some news commentators I have heard are making remarks about how he’s been getting publicly upset lately that things are not all going how he decrees, and comparing his outbursts to a two-year-old who has never been told “No” before.
19. R. Dittmar wrote:
Gurney manufacturers?? There’s no way Congress and Obama are going to squander money on gurneys when it can be better spent subsidizing their lavish lifestyles! Maybe wheelbarrows. They can chuck your carcass in one of those on the way to the flatbed trailer.
Peter writes:
“Bring out your dead!”
(rings bell)
“Bring out your dead!”
bibio44 says, “Heaven forbid basic health care would be a right and not doled out as a charity.”
I think we need a clear definition of a “right”. To me, it implies something that a human being is entitled to with no restriction or interference, like the rights to life, liberty, and the pursuit of happiness. A “right” to the labor of others, like the human beings who actually provide health care, is the “right” to the labor of others with no restriction or consideration of the rights of the laborers. To advocate this sort of “right” is to advocate slavery. Lets be clear about what constitutes a “right” before denigrating others for denying the “rights” of the people.
I think the biggest difference between Clinton and Obama is that Clinton was from Arkansas and Obama is from Chicago. Coming from Arkansas, Clinton has some clue of how conservative middle-Americans are. He knew how they think, even if he didn’t agree with it.
The circles that Obama runs in, he could go months or years without ever having to talk to anyone who voted Republican ever. I don’t think he or anyone in his administration has any clue of how anyone to the right of Arlen Specter thinks. We’re all cartoon characters to him.
not holding my breath here either.
I think o-BUM-a has over reached and may have gotten himself elected a little too soon to ram his marxist dream on the American people.
he has been following the marxist handbook …the same one Lenin, Castro et al.
oBUMa’s goal is to creat a very scary world. not unlike what the Soviets suffered under and still cannot shake. it may sound extreme but it is not. the only way for them (marxist) to maintain power is by such tactics.
so I hope people will not say “I had no idea he was doing this” because you know. You have his own words to back it up. and now you can see his actions.
Meryl at # 8,
I saw the same clip and share your observations. That Congressman was made out to be a complete fool by his own words and delivery. I was thrilled to see how educated and aware his constituents were. It shows people are waking up. Talk about being undressed in public.
Roger is right about haste and the boondoggle. Thy name is healthcare reform.
Wellspring at # 10,
Thanks for educating all of us on this finer point of economic theory, I for one was unaware of the scholarship behind what you wrote.
Philly at # 23
My analysis and yours coincide. Right on. (No pun intended)
Obama and his policies are even moe frightening than the cold war was.
O’Biden and Obama now don’t know the economy was as bad as it was? What was the crisis,crisis,crisis all about and the Obamulus-porkulus-nonstimulus? What would they have said and how much money would they have spent if they had known how bad the economy was?
The American citizens are the ones who didn’t know how good the economy was and don’t know how bad this pair of hustlers and the hustlers in congress are going to make it. And all the American people are going to get out of it are high taxes for eternity or national bankruptcy and the lost of rights,of real liberty.
the peasants are getting restless, and Bama has to hurry. Mission may not be accomplished…bad juju for President for Life campaign…
President Obama needs to pass everything in haste because he knows the more people become aware of the monstrosity, the more people will reject it outright. Obama is not concerned about America or its people, but raw, naked power. However, President Obama did not count on the conservative Democrats to rebel, yet he should have concluded they would given most of the House of Representatives is up for re-election next year. Again, it comes back to Obama’s rigid, Marxist ideology trumps everything else. He is willing to throw every Democrat in the House & Senate under the bus to gain more power. Obama’s own arrogance is his own downfall. He cannot see past himself.
The failure of the so-called “stimulus” has made President Obama politically impotent.
Six months to choose a dog…Guess the dog is more important than the American public at large.
They’ll be no need to buy stock in funeral homes or gurney manufacturers under Obamacare. Buy stock in soylent green.
How many times, in your lifetime, have you witnessed the U.S. Government, U.S. media, United Nations, Jimmy Carter, and other Democratic elected governments across the world, condemn actions and individuals identical to these?
Obama is not a go-it-alone Alpha Male. He likes to be the pack leader, but at the same time he wants a bunch of people covering his back against his enemies, and he wants everyone not part of the opposition or their perceived allies to like him.
That means he wants to be the No. 1 guy, but he wants his consigliere like Emanuel and Axelrod to do the dirty work in bringing people in line. And he won’t stand up to his core special interest groups and say “no”, even if what they want is bad not just for the country, but for his own party’s chances in 2010.
That may change if the Democrats get wiped out in the midterms — Clinton didn’t bring Dick Morris back until he knew that he was doomed in 1996 unless he moved to the right — but unless Emanuel is willing to take on the Morris role between now and 2010, the chances are that instead of trying to move to the right, the Obama White House is going to go even more Chicago style on both Republicans and Blue Dog Democrats over the next 3 1/2 years.
The entire country spent 5 months debating the Obama dog – healthcare – no time!
http://speakmymindblog.com/2009/07/21/full-five-months-to-debate-the-obama-family-dog/
34 John
the alpha male is the leader of the pack. (I got your point)
but forget about this crowd seeing the light and moving to the right.
marxist don’t move to the right.
Bring out your dead!
lol
go to scene 130
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dGFXGwHsD_A
#31 Sally: “Six months to choose a dog…”
You just gave me my next Tea Party sign! Thank you! “Six months to choose a dog, No time at all to remake American health care.”
..this was predictable, the slide in his popularity cited by this and its cousin article by Rich Baehr.
Now, the focus of attention goes form The Boy King himself to how The Boy King is failing. These become the kernels of the news features and, when the editors and publishers find that series based on on the “The Failing Prez” theme reinvigorate the circulation of their moribund dead-wood periodicals, less and less of these articles will get spiked by formerly-adoring editors.
His peccadilloes and idiosyncrasies will be featured. Items like sneaking a smoke in the WH john, carping at his bitchy wife, his intolerable narcissism and other trinkets brought to the fore by servants, aids, assistants hungry for their 15 minutes fame will end up in a feeding frenzy of what a farce this guy really is.
A context for his frail ego forcing him to chuck it in and resign/ Quite possibly.
..Then we start in of a much more easily brought down target: Obama’s own version of Spiro Agnew, VPOTUS “Hairplugs for Men” Biden.
‘Hurry up and sign it,don’t test drive it, don’t bother with the fine print’, is the speal of the smooth talking confidence man. The part that loops logic is that health care and cap-and trade is an economic stimulus and therefore is necessary to save jobs. Hopefully jobs and money will out-weigh white guilt and Hollywood-Harvard ideology to the independent voters. The ship of state had a full holes in the hull and full speed ahead will not help to bail it out.
“A related point about Obama’s popularity.
People keep telling me how wildly popular Obama himself is, even if support for virtually all his major initiatives is eroding. Not true–the first bit, I mean. David Brooks had an interesting piece in our former paper of record today about the “Liberal Suicide March.” I think he’s right about the direction of the march. But why, apart from the sentiments of his colleagues at that fast-sinking newspaper, does he believe that “Most Americans love Barack Obama personally.” Every poll I’ve seen suggests the opposite. Nota bene: Obama did not “win by a landslide,” as the good people from Acorn, MoveOn.org, CNN, and The New York Times like to imply. He won by a margin of about 52-46–respectable these days but not hardly a landslide. And since being elected, Obama has, despite a moment of euphoria among the left, sunk steadily in the public’s estimation. In fact, he ranks 10th out of the 12 post-war presidents at this point in his tenure. Politico reports that “the number of Americans who say they trust the president has fallen from 66 percent to 54 percent. At the same time, the percentage of those who say they do not trust the president has jumped from 31 to 42.” Could it be worse? Sure. And it probably will be soon.”
I’m so glad you said this. I am so tired of people pandering to him. That’s all it is. I can’t tell you, the number of times I’ve heard this, and want to throw something at the TV. Usually, this is the point I turn it off. You’ve probably guessed I won’t be watching yet another historic speech, of this specimen of a severe personality disorder tonight. Listening to him, is like hearing fingernails on a chalkboard times 1000.
“That may change if the Democrats get wiped out in the midterms — Clinton didn’t bring Dick Morris back until he knew that he was doomed in 1996 unless he moved to the right — but unless Emanuel is willing to take on the Morris role between now and 2010, the chances are that instead of trying to move to the right, the Obama White House is going to go even more Chicago style on both Republicans and Blue Dog Democrats over the next 3 1/2 years.”
That should read Kenyan Politics. Look at his cousin Odinga.
None of what this fellow Obama is doing should come as a surprise to anyone who paid attention pre-election. For those folks who are willing and able to learn just how dire the current situation, go here:
http://colony14.net/id41.html
Yes, it is a long read, but very informative.
Warning: It is NOT for the faint-of-heart!
Briam Macker at # 12,
You put your finger right on another liberal talisman that needs to be knocked in a cocked hat, Keynesian “stimulus”. Every time the economy cycles down we hear liberals bleat that government must spend us to poverty so we can recover.
You never hear them directly challenge the demonstrated recovery track record associated with “Laffer” type recovery theory which is based on cutting taxes and putting more money into the private sector’s pocket. That fix was used successfully in the 1960′s by Kennedy, in the 1980′s by Reagan and in 2001 by Bush. In each case the economy recovered and grew because the government policy created conditions friendly to capital and risk. When tax rates are cut, people can both short and long term plan.
Keyne’s theory, or the liberal interpretation of it, relies on the government to spend an economy to prosperity. I can think of one instance where it worked, WW II. In that case, the government put 15 milllion men and women at arms, provided war material to at least 4 other nations and the resulting impact on the economy ended the great depression. Even in that instance however, the economy recovered because the PRIVATE SECTOR was pumped to full employment.It wasn’t government make work or jobs that grew the economy, it was the governments demand for goods from the private part of the economy that turned things around. The circumstances at that time were unique.
What do you call it when you pay a prostitute for stimulus, and get none?
What do you call it when you pay a prostitute for service, and get none?
Reagan or Obama on healthcare, is the choice that hard?
I’m still waiting for Obama to fulfill his promise to turn back the tides.
To quote a poster on HotAir.com which I found to be very timely…
Turn up the heat GOP! WATERLOO!!
I always believed that this would happen, but what I find breathtaking is how quickly it happened. He’s rapidly losing his rich supporters (who were sure that he didn’t mean them when he was lecturing Joe the Plumber about “spreading the wealth”), and somewhat surprisingly, he’s losing the intelligentsia and bits and pieces of the media.
At some point, he’s going to lose the “Erkel cool”, and when he does, it’s all over. He’s just going to be another spent celebrity. I’m actually a bit concerned at this point that there may be a cultural overreaction, and racist rock may become fashionable like it’s becoming in Europe.
“Unseemly haste, thy name is Obama”
The struggle for some sort of single payer/public plan has been going on for 50 years.
There is not a single reason to delay it any longer.
Are you seriously contending that giving it another 6 months will somehow make a difference?
Cassandra Complex? Anyone else have it? Anyone? Anyone? Bueller? Bueller?
Cassandra Complex = majority of people that voted for Obama.
Cassandra Complex = majority of Dems voting for things they do not read.
8. Meryl,
That is awesome, GF! I hope somebody taped it and uploads it to youtube!!!!!!!
When we bought our house, we spend more time reviewing our mortgage documents than these yahoos spend on reviewing such critical, history changing legislation.
I am growing tired of the emergency fire-drills that seem to be running through congress. Financial crisis, Global Warming (now called “climate change), Healthcare reform, all these areas spell impending doom if we don’t act now. It sounds like a cheesy late night infomercial. ACT NOW and don’t miss out on our $19.99 special for the first 50 callers. Gimmee a break.
The morons always bring up Bush when you question Obama. Your a racists is their cry. Well people voted against McCann because he was another Bush. Another Bush or another Marx was the choice the blind couldn’t see. Just standing up there like Obama claiming the same old don’t get anything done politics. Obama is a flat out communist. Watch tonight in his phoney press conference hahaha. Preselecting the questions. When he gets even more power it like he said YOU ANI’T SEEN NOTHING YET.
When I opened a bank account, they wanted to see my birth certificate. The difference is that they’re special and we’re not.
The American public are kind of like the condemned man on the gurney awaiting death by lethal injection, and Obama is the warden shouting “Hurry Up!”
If the health care they are trying to use to make the US citizens slaves is so good why don’t the senators and congress have the same plan
>>the rats desert the ship
Wrong metaphor? They’re actually very sane primates getting off the Titanic.
one day its “its not about me” the next is “you are going to destroy my presidency”. i though he wanted to finish his waffle months ago.
Got schadenfreude? I want my dose, now.
>>13. David Thomson: I also question his sanity. Will Obama be able to finish out his term? I doubt it very much.
I don’t know of a prominent writer who’s gone there yet, but I expect to see some articles on this around a year from now. Anonymous leaks on the poisonous atmosphere in the Oval Office, Michelle on the warpath, a raft of resignations. Perhaps at some point footage of a tantrum to rival Christian Bale’s.
Penultimately, there was the “inner thigh” thing, and now, the “most everyone loves President Obama” quote. I’m finding it harder and harder to take David Brooks seriously anymore.
Commentor ADIOS remarked about Obama satirically writing a book and the end line being, “no black man will ever succeed as president”. Well ADIOS, I have empathy for many of your comments, save the last one. Obama is NOT BLACK, nor IS HE WHITE. He is BOTH, ergo…Bi-racial, a fact eagerly overlooked, rarely mentioned and dismissed by many. Therefore, a Black person may yet arise politically to hold the nation’s highest office. What might be a stumbling block for that person be it a man or woman, would be the “African-American” label given to Obama, and that would very possiby put many non African-American voters off, costing a potential candidate his/her chance at obtaining Presidential status.
That having been said, I am truly troubled by the arrogance, thinned skinned personality and ego of this man, a man a politician with Chicago street thug politics as his background.
The Honeymoon of the 1st Black President/African-American President and his wooing of the masses who feel disenfranchised and feel that the wealth and hard earned pay of others should be shared with them; is quickly going to wear off, and they will wake up to the reality that not only Obama is a failure but the majority of the Democratic party and a fair number of Republicans also are failures along with him.
Keep in mind, this Democratic administration has truly epitomized to the nth degree, the mantra, so adored by them…that is to “TAX and SPEND”, and if the American people don’t see this, they deserve what they get should this President get his way.
Most importantly, he be thwarted in his attempts to turn this great nation into a third world nation because he feels that past injustices and racism(yes this country has its share of racism-from all sides)require a socialist/communist form of government so everyone would be equal…except him, his political cronies and elitist ilk.
The voters laughed Democrat Rep. Russ Carnahan of Missouri off the stage in St. Louis
It’s on utube..
#62 arhooley: “Perhaps at some point footage of a tantrum to rival Christian Bale’s.”
I would be willing to actually pay money out of my own pocket to see that.
It should really start to fall on deft ears that Obama inherited this economy. For the short term he did but not at todays date. Rush to pass the Stimulus which put us in a tailspin downward. Rush to pass Cap and Tax. No other country in the world wants to join, but to the Democrats who cares. Now Rush to pass Health Plan the final nail in the coffin for our struggling economy. The leaders in Congress and specifically Obama, in the rush to pass bills shows a distrubing lack of leadership and a moral compass. NO MORE!
bibbio44,
I think you’ve fallen prey, like most Americans, to the tendancy to want to win on ulimate issues, while ignoring foundational principles. “A huge change from Bush, whose Sec. of the Treas. wanted (how many billions?) based on a 4-page proposal.” I accecpt your premise, haste is bad, no matter who does it. Pointing out that our guy did it too is, well, pointless.
I think you (and all Americans) would do well to take some time and ask yourself, “what is the purpose of government?” Then when you’ve got an answer, see if you can reason from that answer to your stance on an ultimate issue. More importantly, when you engage with others, see if you can talk about principles, rather than end issues. You might find the discourse more rewarding.
ISNT FOOD A RIGHT WHAT ABOUT WATER SO I SAY B.O NEEDS TO HAVE NEW GOVT. CONTROL TO TAKE OVER THE FOOD AND BEVERAGE INDUST. WHY NOT THATS MORE MORAL THAN HEALTHCARE FOOD AND WATER IS A RIGHT HAIL TO ISIRIS THE SUN GOD.
The sheeple in the US of A will never run Oh-bama out on a rail. They love him too much. Like the loyal followers at Jonestown, Obama zealots gulped mass quantities of the kooaid and there is no turning back. What, admit they were wrong? NEVER! On top of that, most young people born after 1975 have no sense of history. They have no memory or knowledge of the real Jimmy Carter years. They only know prosperity of the past couple of decades and Monica’s service to Bill Clinton. They have also been taught in college to be liberal robots. Therefore, there is no hope for the USA. We shall become Marxist Socialists. And perhaps Muslim, too. Get used to it!
Jharp: This bill will guarantee free health care to illegal aliens, yet if we legal citizens do not want to participate we will be fined.
Immigration analyst James R. Edwards, Jr. reported last week in National Review that “no health legislation on the table requires federal, state, or local agencies — or private institutions receiving federal funds — to check the immigration status of health-program applicants, so some of the money distributed via Medicaid and tax credits inevitably would go to illegal aliens.” Moreover, the Senate Finance Committee plan creates a new preference for illegal aliens by exempting them from the mandate to buy insurance. That’s right. Law-abiding, uninsured Americans would be fined if they didn’t submit to the Obamacare prescription. Law-breaking border-crossers, visa-overstayers, and deportation fugitives would be spared.
Explain to me why this is a good thing. PLEASE!
Couldn’t agree more.
See: Hurry Up and Wait http://emmeffemm.com/id166.html
16. fear obama writes:
“I am beginning to think he doesn’t know Shite about much of anything-except reading his teleprompter. Wow-I forgot-Tonight is the big night he will have 4 prompters set up for the big speech. Great, sports network has women volleyball reruns.”
“fear O.”, you might be a bit more prescient than you realize. I understand that there was some quibbling going on to schedule this little puppy. I think the White House had to back down to get a “roadblocked” time slot because there was some other programming that could not be foregone.
..could it be that the narcissistic Boy King is going to the well once too often.
Anyone watching this thing? I sure as hell am not.
Let’s just hope that the real rush is for democrats and those republicans not already against the bill as it currently is is to run from this bill and possibly even kill it outright. More people now have looked at AAHCA and you can look at it for your self at the following link http://docs.house.gov/edlabor/AAHCA-BillText-071409.pdf
Mike at # 59,
You sir just hit it completely out of the park. Arms fully extended, fat part of the barrel, sweet spot, max bat speed, get the tape measure. You are succinctly on point. Congress will keep the system they have now, I forget its acronym.
“What’s good for me is not good for thee.” Because, “I am a first amoung equals.”
I have learned over time that most of the members of Congress are individuals who aren’t people of integrity or character. There are a few exceptions. The current crew in Congress is elitist in the extreme and will live like politbureau members in the old Soviet Union. They will get what ever health care they need. The rest of us will be rationed and recieve the crumbs.
Mike, your right on. Congress will exempt it’s self from the socialized scheme they will impose on the rest of us.They are cynical in the extreme.
Soylent Green is People!
Hey Rog, it’s ‘toute suite’ – get it right, brother.
Chris Dodd…resign NOW
“Would you buy a used car from this man?”
Sorry, sometimes the 60′s just suddenly come back.
In his post #4, J.J. Sefton says that the classically clinically NarciSSistic sail-eared simpleton has been suckling on the teat of radicalism, Marxism and America-hatred “virtually” since birth.
“Virtually?”
This bastard born of the definitive self-and own-culture-loathing Marxist mother and one or another or both of the self-and-own-culture-loathing communists: Frank Marshall Davis and/or Buraq Hussayn Obambi?
Nothing “virtual” about the radicalism, Marxism and America-hatred the increasingly enraged moronically marijuana-mumbling mobbed-up modified-Marxist Mussolini-modeled murtadd-Muslim empty-galabiya glove-puppet sucked in with his mother’s milk. And that he regurgitates and involuntarily psychopathologically projectile projects with his every off teleprompter pronouncement.
Brian Richard Allen
Los Angeles – Califobambicated 90028
And the Far Abroad
Obamas loyalty is being a whore to the globalists and to the rothschilds of europe . His job is to oversee the social and financial destruction of the USA.
If OBAMA really cares about THE USA he would direct the SENATE AND CONGRESS to enforce the immigration laws and require all businesses to use E-verify to check the status of hiring people. INSTEAD HEwants to provide billions of dollars to give GOLD PLATED health care FREE to illegal aliens!!! Oh by the way he says TAX DA RICH..> notice they never tell you how much MONEY YOU HAVE TO make to be concidered rich!!!
#76 re 59
That is the main reason that they need to be replaced. I have no idea by whom…we seem to dredge up the crap elitist in society to run the country. I wanna see Joe the Plumber run for office!!
However, any and all elected officials and all people employeed by our governement…need to ahere to all plans, laws etc., that they dump on the American public.
#81.. heck i had to look up half those words…
I have asked this simple question several times and have yet to get a reasonable answer…but here I go again, because I honestly think that it’s important:
If HB 3200 is such a good bill for this country, WHY is/are Congress, the President, VP, and all federal employees specifically exempt from the provisions of this bill?
After all, if it is good enough for the rest of us, it SHOULD be good enough for you, your family, Congress, the President and all federal employees.
Richard A. Vail
4404-D Old Court Road
Pikesville, MD 21209
One point when talking to coworkers, neighbors etc that all can understand:
ObamaCare will be like the worst ever HMO on steroids.
U.S. HEALTHCARE: CUT YOUR LIFE SHORT
Obama promised HOPE and CHANGE. The media never asked what frightening changes Obama planned for Americans.
WORLDNETDAILY.COM
July 22, 2009
Obamacare for old folks: Just ‘cut your life short’
Health plan provision demands ‘end-of-life’ counseling
By Bob Unruh
The version of President Obama’s universal health care plan pending in the U.S. House would require “end-of-life” counseling for senior citizens, and the former lieutenant governor for the state of New York is warning people to “protect their parents” from the measure.
At issue is section 1233 of the legislative proposal that deals with a government requirement for an “Advance Care Planning Consultation.”
Betsy McCaughey, the former New York state officer, told former president candidate Fred Thompson during an interview on his radio program the “consultation” is no more or less than an attempt to convince seniors to die.
“One of the most shocking things is page 425, where the Congress would make it mandatory absolutely that every five years people in Medicare have a required counseling session,” she said. “They will tell [them] how to end their life sooner.”
McCaughey also said the Obama administration is suggesting that medical care be withheld from seniors based on the expected years they have left to live.
http://www.wnd.com/index.php?fa=PAGE.printable&pageId=104719
Obama’s Civilian National Security Force
Obama promised change. The End of America as we know it:
Obama: “We cannot continue to rely on our military in order to achieve the national security objectives we’ve set. We’ve got to have a civilian national security force that’s just as powerful, just as strong, just as well-funded.”
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gwaAVJITx1Y
PRAVDA: America’s Descent into Marxism – Brief Video
http://www.solutionsfromscience.com/
1947-2009 What is the rush?