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How to Make Friends By Being Mean To Them

June 26th, 2013 - 2:04 pm

The Independent says “Anti-Ground Zero Mosque campaigners Pamela Geller and Robert Spencer [have been] barred from entering Britain to speak at an EDL rally … Theresa May said activists’ presence in the UK would ‘not be conducive to the public good’”.

Meanwhile “President Obama’s top national security advisers have just hosted Sheikh Abdulla bin Bayyah at the White House. As vice president of the International Union of Muslim Scholars (IUMS) in 2004, bin Bayyah endorsed a fatwa calling for the killing of American troops and other personnel serving in Iraq.”

Why is banning Geller and Spencer contrary to the ‘public good’ while entertaining the Sheik is apparently beneficial. Sometimes  the ‘public good’ is hard to understand. It’s mystifying to think why the Taliban are ‘good’ even while they attacked Kabul while ostensibly starting negotiations with the Obama administration.

But it all becomes clear when we recall the gangster movies. Who said ‘Keep your friends close and your enemies closer’? “Some believe it was Sun-tzu Chinese general & military strategist however there is no documented history of this. Was actually first said by “Michael Corleone” in The Godfather Part II.”

Maybe it was neither. I believe it the first politician uttered those words, whoever it may have been.

He must have realized it never pays for politicians to  talk to the good guy since the good guys are never really going to hurt them.  All they can get from a good guy is a crummy vote.  And you can always manufacture those. Not even Theresa May believes that either Robert Spencer or Pamela Geller will behead anyone in London, so there’s no trouble from that direction. There is however, a very really possibility that Sheikh Abdulla bin Bayyah’s followers may decide to shorten someone by a foot or two.

There’s lots of potential trouble from that quarter.

Recently Haaretz reported that rockets were fired into Israel a “the result of an internal conflict that broke out between Hamas and Islamic Jihad”. When two Jihadi organizations fall out they settle scores by killing the Jew. Why do they do this? Because the Jews have got the money. What does Islamic Jihad have that Hamas doesn’t have?

The reason it makes sense to rocket Israel is they are both actually vying for the right to extort money from the Jewish state and are trying to outdo each other in malevolence.

“Pay me! Pay me!”

Of course they never quite put it that way. They say words like “we are struggling for the right to represent the legitimate interests of the Palestinian people.” But it’s dollars to donuts that the last people to ever see a plugged nickel will be the Palestinians.

The way you win friends and influence politicians is not by being a nice, law-abiding, taxpaying person. You make friends by becoming such a nuisance and public menace that they have to buy you off.

Terrorism is a business. In particular, it is in the insurance business.

The UK government and the Obama administration probably think they can purchase the ‘public good’ of no beheadings by buying off the Taliban and the Sheiks. Or maybe there’s another way to think about it. Charlie Sheen, speaking of his dealings with prostitutes once said, “I don’t pay them for sex. I pay them to leave.”

But that’s where Charlie is wrong. They’ll be back and they’ll keep coming back.  Once they know the way it works better than old Charlie ever did, they’ll be back. It never was about what danger Spencer or Geller posed to the British public. If they were actually bad for the public good they’d get the red carpet into Downing Street.


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He must have realized it never pays for politicians to talk to the good guy since the good guys are never really going to hurt them.
That may be true in the short term. But in the long term rewarding bad guys and enemies and punishing good guys and friends has two consequences: 1) It encourages bad and hostile behaviors, 2) It discourages good and friendly behaviors. So the more the West applies this kind of startegy both domestically and in foreign relations the less good guys and friends it will have and the more bad guys and enemies.

The good guys of today, the productive, law abiding, tax paying, decent folks who are increasingly denied recourse, will - either they or their children - eventually adapt to the new order of things and adopt criminal behaviors as a trait necessary for survival and success. If they won't they will persih. So either way the percentage of good guys in society will decrease, and the percentage of bad guys grow. In the foreign arena your allies will also adapt to the new order where being your allies means being doubly punished - by you and by your rivals and enemies, while being your enemy is doubly rewarded - by you and by your rivals and enemies. The policy of appeasing the bully at every turn is beneficial only in the very short term, then it devolves into the law of the jungle where the most violent people rule.
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News flash: National guard units in Massachusetts seeking to confiscate a cache of recently banned assault weapons were ambushed by elements of a para-military extremist faction. Military and law enforcement sources estimate that 72 were killed and more than 200 injured before government forces were compelled to withdraw.

Speaking after the clash, Massachusetts Governor Thomas Gage declared that the extremist faction, which was made up of local citizens, has links to the radical right-wing tax protest movement. Gage blamed the extremists for recent incidents of vandalism directed against internal revenue offices. The governor, who described the group's organizers as "criminals," issued an executive order authorizing the summary arrest of any individual who has interfered with the government's efforts to secure law and order. The military raid on the extremist arsenal followed wide-spread refusal by the local citizenry to turn over recently outlawed assault weapons.

Gage issued a ban on military-style assault weapons and ammunition earlier in the week. This decision followed a meeting in early this month between government and military leaders at which the governor authorized the forcible confiscation of illegal arms.

One government official, speaking on condition of anonymity, pointed out that "none of these people would have been killed had the extremists obeyed the law and turned over their weapons voluntarily." Government troops initially succeeded in confiscating a large supply of outlawed weapons and ammunition. However, troops attempting to seize arms and ammunition in Lexington met with resistance from heavily-armed extremists who had been tipped off regarding the government's plans. During a tense standoff in Lexington 's town park, National Guard Colonel Francis Smith, commander of the government operation, ordered the armed group to surrender and return to their homes. The impasse was broken by a single shot, which was reportedly fired by one of the right-wing extremists. Eight civilians were killed in the ensuing exchange

Ironically, the local citizenry blamed government forces rather than the extremists for the civilian deaths. Before order could be restored, armed citizens from surrounding areas had descended upon the guard units. Colonel Smith, finding his forces overmatched by the armed mob, ordered a retreat.

Governor Gage has called upon citizens to support the state/national joint task force in its effort to restore law and order. The governor also demanded the surrender of those responsible for planning and leading the attack against the government troops. Samuel Adams, Paul Revere, and John Hancock, who have been identified as "ringleaders" of the extremist faction, remain at large.

And this, people, is how the American Revolution began.

April 20, 1775
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I think the Supreme Court took government out of the business of pronouncing on any public morality. The irony is the SCOTUS majority did this by declaring themselves the arbiter of public morality. Scalia's dissent is worth reading in this regard. The issue here is not gay marriage, it is whether any kind of standard can be enacted by society, acting through government.

"“It takes real cheek for today’s majority to assure us, as it is going out the door, that a constitutional requirement to give formal recognition to same-sex marriage is not at issue here — when what has preceded that assurance is a lecture on how superior the majority’s moral judgment in favor of same-sex marriage is to the Congress’s hateful moral judgment against it,” he wrote.

In another section of his ruling, Scalia said, "To defend traditional marriage is not to condemn, demean, or humiliate those who would prefer other arrangements, any more than to defend the Constitution of the United States is to condemn, demean, or humiliate other constitutions. To hurl such accusations so casually demeans this institution.

"In the majority’s judgment, any resistance to its holding is beyond the pale of reasoned disagreement. To question its high-handed invalidation of a presumptively valid statute is to act (the majority is sure) with the purpose to 'disparage,' 'injure,' 'degrade,' 'demean,' and 'humiliate' our fellow human beings, our fellow citizens, who are homosexual. All that, simply for supporting an Act that did no more than codify an aspect of marriage that had been unquestioned in our society for most of its existence — indeed, had been unquestioned in virtually all societies for virtually all of human history."

Can there be any rational objection to polygamy? There are more Muslims than gays, and surely their conception of marriage must be deferred to as well.

The ultimate effect of this must be to reduce government to a rubber stamp. It can no longer legislate a social norm. Rationally, anything or nearly anything goes.

A lot of libertarians would actually approve of this. However that may be, I cannot help but think Justice Kennedy has either declared the Supreme Court the ultimate arbiter of morality, or alternatively conceded that it has nothing to do with anything at all.
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Further applying the lessons of Midway to our times - the Statist center of gravity (their "Ten Ships" http://pjmedia.com/richardfernandez/2010/05/14/the-ten-ships/) is the Mainstream Media.

I don't know how to sink MSM, but the first part of the OODA loop is to "Observe". In this case, we can observe the centrality of MSM to the Statist project, then we can proceed to Orient-Decide-Act.
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For those who don't care to join in all the negativity of this thread, here's an historical event worth keeping in mind.

Between 7:00 AM and 10:15 AM on June 4th, 1942, U.S. forces had made 6 separate attacks on the Japanese fleet near Midway Island. These attacks resulted in no (zip! zero! nada!) hits on any Japanese ships. 41 American aircraft had been lost during these 6 attacks.

That was the situation at 10:15 AM. By 10:30 AM, three Japanese aircraft carriers were burning.

We cannot know the future and our position is not nearly as weak as many here seem to believe. I am much more fearful of all sorts of nasty Black Swans, than I am of these Statist a-holes having their way with America.
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I see swans of every possible color flying all over the place.

At least I think they're swans.
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The only battle Winston Churchill worried about losing was the Battle of the Atlantic.

You can now see U-505 in the Chicago Museum of Science and Industry, a war trophy!

http://www.msichicago.org/whats-here/exhibits/u-505/
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I grew up in Chicago and, like most local youth, visited the U-505 several times. I recommend it to anyone who has the chance to check it out.
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Kimberley Strassel has a great op-ed on Obama vs. his enviro-wacko grassroots supporters, Obama's Keystone Debacle

http://online.wsj.com/article/SB10001424127887323419604578571872194739406.html

CREDO Action accuses Organizing For Action to be an Astroturf group!

I'm Shocked!!!

We had a bunch of those CREDO types trolling BC back a while ago. Anybody tried to find old posts and comments under the new PJ Media system?

Maybe it's time for some Golden Oldies! I know that is when I first told the story of extinguishing the Oil Fires of Kuwait. How that MAJOR environmental clean up was run by BECHTEL. How pipeline design must meet strict regulations set forth in the USC, such that virtually any pipeline spill now makes the news.

Send forth your pseudo engineering weenies against us here at BC, and we'll send them running for cover! If OFA thinks 70% of Americans supporting the Keystone XL pipeline is trouble, what would 90% support do to poor old Barack "Lead From Behind" Hussein Obama Jr.???

And after Labor Day Phase Two of the BP trial starts up, and we will FINALLY will get our day in court to prove

CHU LIED!
DOLPHINS DIED!
LITTLE GIRLS CRIED!
THEN NICE MEN WITH MACHINES PLUGGED THE DAMN HOLE!

GUYS ARE SWIMMING!
GUYS ARE SAILING!
PLAYING BASEBALL
GEE THAT'S BETTER!
MUDDAH, FADDAH
KINDLY DISREGARD THIS LETTER!


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9jjiWS__Mp0
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These are the fruits of the new atheism, the materialist theology of secular humanism, to which President Barabbas and many others at the helm of our government adhere. Those who see these developments as a quantum leap in the persecution of American Christendom are correct.

The SCOTUS has greased the skids for a homosexual to bring suit for having been "wronged" by a hateful state law that codifies traditional marriage. This will create the new Roe v. Wade, and it will happen, I expect, at lightning speed.

Yesterday, while pruning the tomatoes, I found myself humming Ashokan Farewell for about an hour until I realized why. There will be parts of America, I expect, that will not brook this assault on the rational and just, not to mention the founding principles of the republic.

"Without the family we are helpless against the state." - Chesterton

"Where no codes of civil conduct govern cultural production, it is inevitable that those who are coarsest and least constrained by conscience -- those who are most wanting in shame, restraint, imagination, modesty, consideration, or charity -- will prevail." -David Bentley Hart (Freedom and Decency)

As for taking up arms. There is no way you will beat the devil at his own game.
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As individuals, taking up arms is clearly futile and won't work. In fact, the fascists want 'lone wolves' because they create the 'security threat' that justifies all their rhetoric about tea partyers being terrorists.

However as communities and states should D.C. go full fascist we need to make it clear not only would we resist but we would be duty bound to resist and we wouldn't be alone -- there would be many military joining the 'Patriot' side and bringing their hardware. Others, probably a majority, would simply stand down like East Germany or Romania in 1989. Thus the tyranny ratchet only works up until a point where it actually provokes violence on a massive scale through some event like mass arrests, gun confiscation, or the total confiscation of all retirement savings in this country.

The psychopaths driving this country toward Civil War 2.0 may be content just to watch this nation burn, even if they lose. But while they may not be deterrable, most of the military and police still are. We have to come up with non-threatening ways to appeal to everyone's healthy sense of self-preservation and realize everyone loses in a civil conflict within America itself.
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Don't fight by the devil's rules.
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Forgot one thing on my last post...

Praise the Lord and pass the ammunition.
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I forget the term. But there is a Japanese term for knowing defeat. Strange as it sounds, the falling on the sword never was a cowardly act. It was an act of kindness. So that the conquerors conscience would not be burdened with the killing of another human being.

But we are Americans. Defeat is not an option.

There are many instances of honor like that in times of war. Bases that were overrun in Vietnam where death was imminent called for napalm over the entire area... friend and foe. The bad guys also got toasted.

Ordered by the Cornel in command with full consent of his enlisted charge. They knew they were dead, and those guys realized that from a military standpoint, the enemy was going to die in short order also.
It is the American way.

The attack on the USA as of today, June 27, 2013 is of a different sort. It is an attack on what made the USA the USA. The left will always be on the attack, but the bottom line is that the greatest civilization known to mankind in all of history was based on a Christian moral grounding. It is the natural law of individual success.

This is no more. The first three words of the Constitution “We The People” are now considered irrelevant.

The time has come for a well regulated militia. Definition of such, goals, and orders to be determined. But one thing is absolutely clear…
When the United States of America promotes sodomy as a virtue, that is when the war begins.

Nothing good will come forward from such civilization killing thought.

Nothing.

What is happening now, is not the American Way.

Not even close.
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The underlying intent of forefronting those who were once regarded as "freaks" has an ulterior motive: to destroy "the normal." Gay couples by-and-large are innocent of any malicious intent when the want to marry each other. They want to be, as much as possible, to be "included," and part of "the norm." The activists who push for outright marriage for gays, as oposed to the perfectly reasonable "civil unions," are not at all benign in their intent. The activists are part of a general cabal of people who want to wreck marriage and families, and they are succeeding. They know that they are showing contempt for the normal institutions when they create what most people would consider a parody: two people of the same gender marrying each other. They only give lip service to the supposed "civil right" they are championing. The gay couples themselves are sincere, their champions are not.
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Absolutely correct.

As a conservative Christian the idea of "all Gods" children is irrelevant to the agenda of the radical homos. There is no saving grace there. They are in your face and demanding as all get out to not just tolerate them, but you are a bigot if you do not promote their agenda. Which the best I can tell, has nothing to do with being a homosexual. Go figure.

Total nonsense.
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I can add nothing substantive to the excellent posts by the early birds. I can, however go farther afield on a dot-to-dot trip.

Why has Chief Justice Roberts and to a lesser extent Gen. Petreus and probably others fallen into line? Were they closet libs after all? Or are they victims of the Limbaugh idea that they are more interested in being socially acceptable to their liberal peers than being conscientious Americans?

Or, what has the NSA et all got in the data base about them? Why is Silicon Valley so enthralled with the destruction of this nation? Is it because they believe, in an arrogance based on the revenge of the Nerds, that they have the answers because they have the data (data without knowledge)?

That the tipping point is upon us is sure. Were we able to disengage ourselves we might could discern which direction the tumble will take. I for one am afraid. Very.
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"Is it because they believe, in an arrogance based on the revenge of the Nerds, that they have the answers because they have the data (data without knowledge)?" Massive data mining and drones might keep most people in line, but they cannot guarantee the safety of every 'nerd' once a second American Civil War starts, nor stop every bubba with a scoped .303 outside all the data hubs. This is not my point, and I threaten no one, this is the point of Matthew Bracken's story "What I Saw at the Coup". The three letter agency worshippers on the Right are also not going to endear themselves to their neighbors in a poop hitting the fan scenario should NSA data mining and other surveillance be used to round up 'troublemakers'.
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You were at the 2008 DNC convention? That is where the coup happened. Correct me if I am wrong.
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The point of the above is that our overlords and those who would pretend to be them are so used to a population that is beaten down and cowed they can't even imagine what 10,000 non-psychotic Dorners could do if they truly had nothing left to lose. 1 or 2 simply gives the police state more justifications for what they want to do. 10,000 and they would all be cowering in their bunkers like Saddam in his spider hole.
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We have dropped down through the rabbit hole. You can call it Wonderland if you wish but I would give it another name.

On the one hand the Obamacare decision seems to stand for the principle that any law that can be deemed to be a tax has no limits even when it is obvious that the intent of the law has nothing to do with raising revenue. Indeed, the intent of the law is to coerce people so they will not have to pay the tax, and this can be ascertained from the plain wording of the law.

On the other hand, with the DOMA decision, it appears that this is not truly so. Although it defines marriage the real impact of that federal law had to do with taxation and benefits. The actual controversy in question had to do with a federal estate tax bill.

Color me confused. The categories that federal tax laws use to establish tax liability can't conflict with state categories bearing the same name? In such cases the state definition trumps the federal? How interesting that is.

Can a state then define a part-time worker as someone who works less than 50 hours a week to get around the provisions of Obamacare? Can they set up a system whereby a single employee can have two jobs with a single employer? The first job entails twenty hours per week and the second twenty hours a week. Will this work? Under the logic of the DOMA decision it should, but I wouldn't bet the farm on it.

Can a state allow multiple proxy marriages to foreign citizens they have never met and never intend meeting and declare them as being valid? Is the INS then required to give the new brides and grooms spousal residency status because a state allows sham marriages for such purposes?

That is the problem when judicial decisions are nothing more than rationalizations for pre-determined outcomes. Lies, when told too often, will crack due to internal inconsistencies. And so it is. The farce continues. The watchdogs are dead and only their rotting corpses remain.
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You Sir have defined the stupidity of this legislation....

The unintended consequences.

There are three levels of taxation based on the markets and individuals:

1. Avoidance
2. Minimizing
3. Termination

Unfortunately, the standard now is to remove any entity from the market (termination). When obamacare hits full force next year, it is going to be an economic slaughter house.

The average income of a working family in the USA is 34k. Obamacare requires a 20k per year premium payment from the 10 largest states save Texas.

This is not just bad economics. It is a direct attack on the tax paying American Citizen.

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Why is banning Geller and Spencer contrary to the ‘public good’ while entertaining the Sheik is apparently beneficial.

Wretchard, that can't be what you mean. The Brits banned Geller and Spencer *for* the public good, according to the Brits
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