Listen to lesbian activist Masha Gessen speak on marriage. And listen to the applause when she says that “the institution of marriage should not exist.”

In the audio, Gessen says candidly that the fight for gay marriage is a lie. The movement’s real aim is the destruction of marriage and the traditional family itself.

A 2012 speech by Masha Gessen, an author and outspoken activist for the LGBT community, is just now going viral and it includes a theory that many supporters of traditional marriage have speculated about for years: The push for gay marriage has less to do with the right to marry – it is about diminishing and eventually destroying the institution of marriage and redefining the “traditional family.”

Specifically, she says three things:

  • “Gay marriage is a lie.”
  • “Fighting for gay marriage generally involves lying about what we’re going to do with marriage when we get there.”
  • “It’s a no-brainer that the institution of marriage should not exist.” (This statement is met with very loud applause.)

One could read her words on paper and assume that Gessen only speaks for herself and no one else. But the loud applause in the hall says otherwise. Not only is her statement not controversial there, it’s met with approval because she spoke a truth that everyone in the room already knew.