Video of Friday’s slaying of Jews by Palestinians banned by YouTube and Facebook
The video at this link was removed by YouTube and Facebook within two hours of posting. We thought you had a right to see it.
Meanwhile in Gaza “residents from the southern city of Rafah hit the streets Saturday to celebrate the terror attack in the West Bank settlement of Itamar where five family members were murdered in their sleep, including three children.
Residents handed out candy and sweets, one resident saying the joy “is a natural response to the harm settlers inflict on the Palestinian residents in the West Bank.”
Via Ynet
It is difficult (and perverse) to like someone who does not like you. Many palestinians do not seem to understand the basics of human emotion. They deserved to be mocked as moral midgets.
my sadness knows no bounds!
Why the Itamar terror attack happened
http://israelmatzav.blogspot.com/2011/03/why-itamar-terror-attack-happened.html#links
The New York Times notices Turkey
http://israelmatzav.blogspot.com/2011/03/new-york-times-notices-turkey.html#links
And today a group of a dozen Palestinian Arabs showed up for a ceremony where a square in a small town near Ramallah was named after a Palestinian woman named Dalal al-Mughrabi who was involved in the 1978 terrorist attack that left 38 dead including some children; this according to the Jerusalem Post.
Great timing and it leads one to wonder if the word ‘stupid’ is adequate to describe a culture that in reality venerates the idea of Orwell’s boot stamping on their faces forever.
This ceremony probably won’t make it into the Western press nor the celebrations you have referred to but Israel is keenly aware of all three incidents and there will for sure be big time payback for this one. It is completely opposite to what the PA’s should be doing and an excellent insight into why they have been beating themselves on the head with hammers they themselves hold for over 60 years. There is simply nothing inside those heads besides rage based on a fantasy history which is now an urban myth across the entirety of the middle east. Can anyone name bigger or more addled sore losers in the history of this world?
Yesterday I posted on Facebook a link to a story about the death threats issued to the Republican lawmakers in Wisconsin. Later that day, my post had disappeared. I don’t want to conclude that Facebook is an anti-Republican organization yet, so we’ll see if other such posts disappear….
The Palestinian arabs are consumed with hatred. Their national identity is defined by their hatred of the Jews. But what is the excuse of the students, academicians and media folk who demonstrate and shout during Israel apartheid week? And what is the excuse of the Israeli government that operates on perpetual damage control and listlessly repeats the mantras of the peace process that everyone knows is going nowhere?
The Arabs are unreformable, and nothing can be done to change the minds of those whose hatred of Jews defies rational thinking. But Israelis are not powerless, they can support politicians who will provide better leadership. But last I checked, Kadima, a party that stands for nothing, would still get the most votes. Meanwhile you have a President whose fame rests on the fact that he was the chief advocate of a disastrous “peace” delusion, and a defense minister, who as best I can tell, has a perfect record of always making the wrong judgement at the crucial moment. Meanwhile Netanyahu talks a good game, but their is something missing in his substance.
The narrative. Always the damn narrative. No matter how despicable the act, maintenance of the leftist prism is paramount, so, poof! — it never happened.
Another shameless act of airbrushing that should come as no surprise.
Useful idiots, same as ever.
1. Meanwhile in Gaza “residents from the southern city of Rafah hit the streets Saturday to celebrate the terror attack in the West Bank settlement of Itamar where five family members were murdered in their sleep, including three children.
Celebrating like they did after 9/11.
Phil: Remember that Facebook is a company founded by young people who have led, frankly, privileged and somewhat cloistered lives. They’re well-educated (by conventional standards) but there are facts of life the Ivy League doesn’t quite cover. They really don’t have any grasp of their own mortality, let alone the injustice shown here and the mortality of others. I’m not at all surprised to see them choke when confronted by a difficult, unpleasant choice.
However, if ‘Farmville’ went down – rest assured, they’d be all over it.
Netanyahu must respond with unprecedented brutality to conclusively eliminate the threat from these palestinian animals.
I COMPLETELY AGREE!
I’m not one to surf Facebook regularly, so I’ll just ask this question. Could it be that the pro-Israeli and anti-Palestinian message of the clip wasn’t the reason for it being banned? Might it be the fact that the video contains images of an infant and two young children who’ve been killed, and are partially nude and bloody? It’s pretty strong stuff.
As to the crime itself, I’m all for the authorities chasing the killers down and punishing them. If they had any brains, the Palestinian authorites (Fatah or Hamas, or both) would work to track down the killers themselves, and hand them over to the Israelis when they did. I’m opposed however (regardless of how tempting it is), to making assumptions about who “must” have done this. I’m aware that the probability is that Palestinians did it, but frankly 5 people killed with a knife doesn’t sound like them. An AK-47, grenades, something along that line would have been more their style. It doesn’t mean they didn’t do it (there could be a rogue who does things different, this could be a new initiative, etc.) but it could also (in a murder mystery sort of way) be someone else (jealous lover, business partner, etc.) who decided to do this and point the finger in the direction of the local Palestinian population, who are easy targets if nothing else. Has anyone claimed responsibility? Palestinians are usually not shy about telling the world when they murder someone; generally they proclaim it from the rooftops. Frankly, even if they *didn’t* do it I’m surprised no one has claimed credit yet.
DavidN, it’s no surprise you want to be anonymous.
Roger, i agree. Loathsome, and more so for the timing.
To Roger Simon,
Sir, I don’t understand your response to DaveN. Could you please elaborate?
Thank you.
(I originally posted this as a comment, not a reply. My apologies)
I think it is we who are the cowards. We permit debates making a Palestinian State a goal and all governments in Israel to one degree or another buckle under.
It is time to forge an alliance between all countries, including the Saudi’s and Jordanians, including us and Israel – all countries that are being targeted by Imperial Islam and take back Lebanon, scatter to the winds the Palestinians, incorporate such territories that are thereby freed and incorporate into Israel – which is too small physically now.
Destroy the Iranian Mullahs and give their country back to the Iranians.
There is no place on earth for the Imperial Islamists.
Roger,
I’ve never tried to maintain any anonymity, at least not really. My name is David Nicholas; I merely use my last initial because it’s shorter than my name. No offense, but you probably shouldn’t make assumptions; and that’s my point, in what I wrote. In the aftermath of the Oklahoma City bombing, some people imagined that it would turn out to be Arab terrorists who were the perpetrators; it eventually turned out it was Tim McVeigh, who had another agenda more or less. I’m not saying that the killings are certainly not committed by Palestinians; I’m saying that there’s a possibility that they aren’t, and until we’re certain, making statements and pronouncements is premature.
And I stand by my original point; the video they took off of Youtube is very extreme. Pictures of dead children (even pixillated somewhat) aren’t for the weak of heart or stomach, and if Youtube removed the video on that basis alone it wouldn’t surprise me. If you’re going to make assumptions about me, the least you could do is address my point.
The PA, even were they interested in tracking down these killers, is not in the habit of turning over such people to Israel for fear of being labeled “collaborators”. And I’m not surprised a knife was used, as a kill made in silence gives them a chance to get away before anyone knows something has happened. A machine gun burst would bring a quick response.
The first claim of responsibility came from the Al Aqsa Brigades, the militant arm of the “moderate” Fatah. Tracks have been found leading to a nearby Arab village (Hawara I think). So the IDF may be closing in; one hopes they deliver swift justice to those savages.
DavidN: Your deep insight should get you a Nobel price, just like the one Obama got. We all failed to see where you saw the truth and reality: The people who viciously murdered these poor Jewish/Israeli children are the same conspirators who downed the Twin Towers and blamed it on the muslims.
I’ve now started using my whole name, because Roger seemed to believe I was hiding. So, Raymond in DC has moved me from the cautious skeptic who wants to wait for facts before voicing an opinion to the conspiracy nuts who want to believe that 9/11 was perpetrated by someone other than Mohammed Attah and his band of terrorists. I never said any of that, I said we should reserve judgment until we know more. The verdict on 9/11 came down a long time ago, and the evidence is overwhelming. Jeez, would you people read what I wrote, and stick to attacking that, instead of attributing things to me that I never said?!?
That would be too difficult because it would involve breaking through the thick leather of their own preconceived biases grown over their eyes. Some of the folks here (apparently a disappointingly large number, based on this thread’s comments) don’t see the irony of their superiority complex vis. Kos, DU, Huffpo and other lefty/lib sites’ commentors, who are no more blinkered than they, only coming from the other direction.
I thought that we were better than that over here. Oh well; I guess things are tough all over and reading comprehension must be the toughest of all!
NO, you didn’t “just wait for the facts”. You advanced the hypothesis that perhaps it might have been… “…someone else (jealous lover, business partner, etc.) who decided to do this and point the finger in the direction of the local Palestinian population…”.
Then you said ” …we should reserve judgment until we know more”. That’s Obama Fort-Hood-like euphemism for “let’s not do anything and sit-it-out until things cool down and are forgotten”.
Hhmmm… Let’s see, some other plausible alternatives: (1) a Mongol tribe headed by a drunk Cossack and a Spanish Inquisidor entered Israel anonymously and murdered the family. (2) Shrek joined forces with Buzz Lightyear and together they decided to teach those Joooos a lesson.
I’ll stick to my first hunch: DavidN, you deserve an Obama-Nobel price.
If you’d actually read what I said (go back and read it again, please) I said the probability was that it was some group of Palestinians, but that there were other possibilities. That’s what’s called reserving judgment (though an objective person might fault me for blaming the Palestinians in advance of clear evidence, but I doubt in this audience I’m going to get any sympathy with that argument). The funny thing here is that having expressed a bit of caution as to the identity of the hijackers, I’ve been in turn accused of being a 9/11 truther (which I never even came close to saying; they’re idiots) and someone who tried to explain away Hassan’s attack at Fort Hood (which again I never did; he’s obviously an Islamist terrorist, and it’s going to be interesting to see how the army deals with the situation). Funny how it’s easier for someone to debate me if they play my side of the debate too, and put forward stupid ideas as mine, so that they can shoot them down.
PS Since there hasn’t been any coverage in the news I’ve seen, I’m ignorant now. Have there been any further developments? Last I heard there was a trail of some sort that led “towards a neighboring Arab village”. Did anyone follow it to its end? Does it peter out? Are there any other avenues of investigation?
I wrote “hijackers” above for some reason; of course I meant murderers.
David: The symbolic “knife” is actually the Islamic “sword” with which a jihadist is supposed to kill the infidels, especially the Jews.
It is in many Suras in the Quran and the Hadith. By getting up close to the victim, the Islamic warrior is showing Allah his bravery, if slitting the throat of a 3 month old girl is Islam’s example of “bravery”.
We are dealing with psychopaths. Israeli youths have been killed with stones, boulders, or hung with ropes. The slogan should be “Any weapon for Allah”.
This is a war between the human soul and human savagery, civilization versus barbarism. The weapon is almost unimportant in the long view; it is the goal that is important now and in the future.
Remember, the pilots on 9/11 had their throats slit by box-cutters, against a convenient weapon and a symbolic one/action.
Know your enemy and you’ll understand their cruelty, hate, and psychopathic actions.
But we must never forget their victims!
I’m not one to discount the abhorrent nature of these murders and their hyper-antagonistic statement (killing entire families in their sleep so brutally) but is there any room for anyone to introduce the concept of assumption of risk into this discussion?
I mentioned to my Israeli girlfriend last night this news story and her immediate reaction was, “Serves them right; no one told them to go live there (in the occupied territories’ settlements)”. I was surprised by her comment but she makes pretty good sense if one looks at this from beyond the emotional smokescreen that tends to haunt much of the discourse in the media concerning the Israeli-Palestinian conflict.
Israelis are not immune to the Leftist sickness that pervades so many places.
Your girlfriend’s remark, blaming the victims, is morally reprehensible, and you are morally sick, too, if you think she is right. There is no cause, no reason, no justification for the stabbing to death of infants in their sleeping beds. Blaming the parents for living there…in a town where no one is going about murdering Palestinian children in THEIR beds….is a sign of the moral darkness inhabiting the West, and yes, that includes the Israeli Left and the Jewish Left in America.
One can disagree with the settlers, but it gives no one the right to blame them for the willingness of someone who is worse than an animal sneaking into the bedrooms of this young couple and their sleeping children and cutting their throats. NOTHING.
“Serves them right”. Your girlfriend and you are disgusting, and you are culpable of abetting the Palestinians as you blame the Fogels instead of the bastard-who-should-rot-in-hell that did this.
The Palestinians are murderers, delight in death, glorify savagery. They named the square after the heinous creature that murdered 38 Israelis on a bus. Were those people also to blame for their own deaths? Are all the Israelis who have died at the hand of terrorists to blame for their own deaths? Jews were murdered in 1920, 1921, 1929, 1936-39, and guess what, there was no State of Israel and no Green Line. The Arabs usually picked on defenseless old people, as defenseless as the infants killed in Itamar.
The people riding busses in Jewish Jerusalem, in the mid-2000′s…in the cafes and pizza shops and discos, in Tel Aviv and Netanya and Jerusalem, should they all have moved away from Israel, since it has been a dangerous place to be? It’s only dangerous, of course, since the Palestinians DELIGHT IN MURDER.
And yes, they do. They do not want to live in peace, they HONOR murder, they wallow in murder. They kill each other. Watch the videos, which are still on the Internet, of Hamas members pulling out Fatah members in Gaza, and shooting them on the side of the road, or throwing them off buildings. They think nothing of murdering their own kind, and even less of murdering Israelis.
I used to feel sorry for the Palestinians, as they were deluded by their own leadership, but I’ve come to realize they are a sick group, and they deserve NOTHING. They’ve had every opportunity to make peace, been given billions of dollars…and what’s the end result?
Stabbing a 3 month old to death. Ah, but the Israeli dumb bitch says it the Fogel’s own fault, for daring to try to live a life.
Ach, what can anyone say to you, you and your girlfriend are beyond the pale of decency.
Is the attitude different from those that play the islamaphobia card over here? Learn from her reaction influenced by corrupt media twist reporting. Israel has media corruption similar to the US variety. Five personality classifications with as many defining adjectives each have been created by US media to camouflage operatives of insurrection within education, corporations, government and media as puny substitutes for either patriot or traitor. When agenda based education cannot call a spade a spade, what other outcome can one expect. Maybe you should do a warranty search on your girl friend. You may have settled for a lemon.
So would it “serve you right” then to be killed in your bed if you lived near Columbia University in the upper West side of Manhattan? Does that “make it ok” Does that “make it “understandable” Does that in ANY WAY mitigate the crime?
If you and your girlfriend were living on the upper West side just above 100th street near Columbia University and she were murdered in cold blood while you were out shopping, and I then said to you, “Well, you know, it serves her right — look where you two were living!” — both of you graduate students (in this fictional & hypothetical story while you attended Columbia University).
How do you think you would react to my statement that “It serves her right you know” — and, “it would serve you right too if you ever were knifed in your bed up in that apartment.” Somehow, I don’t think you’d remain so stoic… just a guess on my part.
And to your “Israeli girlfriend”, it “serves her right” to have a boyfriend like you!
“Serves them right?”
Voorst, if I were you, I’d be sleeping with one eye open.
Seems to me you are dating a sociopath.
And you think she “makes pretty good sense.”
Do both yourselves a favor and google “Stockholm Syndrome.”
What can you expect from followers of a gutter religion started by a child pervert !!!!!
This is perfect illustration of Palestinian behavior that hardens the hearts of Israelis and westerners. My emotional reaction is that Israel should extract vengeance at a ratio of at least 100 to one. I know they will suffer for it if they do, but they won’t take any heat from me.
The Palestinians are a death cult, a race of people who have embraced and devolved so deeply in victimhood, they are irretrievably damaged as a people. The best that could be done with them is to turn them loose on the Arabs who created them.
I tend to agree with much of this. The frightening thing is that the average age in the P.T. is about 16 or thereabouts, so we’re now going on a few generations deep of people brought up in that victimhood-centered culture of nihilism, without any societal/governmental institutions to guide the ship of their nascent/purported state. If nothing else, the demographics of the Palestinians indicates this will not end well without some sort of drastically stepped up interventionist (into the P.T.) role by the Arabs.
Perhaps they will put down the bludgeon of “Oh the victimized Palestinians” for long enough to actually help their Arab brethren who purportedly suffer so greatly at the hands of the Israeli state. I’m not crossing my fingers, though. In my experience, the Arabs are one another’s worst enemy, unity is a myth and there may not be a more jealous people on the face of the earth.
The answer is WAR!
“I mentioned to my Israeli girlfriend last night this news story and her immediate reaction was, “Serves them right; no one told them to go live there (in the occupied territories’ settlements)”. I was surprised by her comment but she makes pretty good sense if one looks at this from beyond the emotional smokescreen that tends to haunt much of the discourse in the media concerning the Israeli-Palestinian conflict.”
The sentiments of you and your girlfriend are quite disgusting. How you both could come to that conclusion and then promote it as some kind of rational non-”emotional smokescreen” response is simply pathetic and shows a cruel disregard for others, much less innocents who had no say in where they were living.
Since when was settling in disputed territories an offense or mistake so great that it somehow justifiably deserved death? GTFO.
“The sentiments of you and your girlfriend are quite disgusting. How you both could come to that conclusion and then promote it as some kind of rational non-”emotional smokescreen” response is simply pathetic and shows a cruel disregard for others, much less innocents who had no say in where they were living.”
Especially after Israel was accused of “economic warfare” against Gaza because they actually did pull all the settlers out. If the settlers left the West Bank, people like Voorst’s “Israeli girlfriend” wouldn’t say it was because they were willing to leave the Palestinians in peace or even because they were afraid for their lives but at least smart enough to run out… it would be because they were evil bloodsuckers out to cause an economic collapse in the West Bank, just like the Gaza ex-settlers did.
Israelis cannot win in this particular meme swamp –they would be entirely justified to just say to hell with it and quit even trying.
Wow, fellow. This is some feat of St. Vitus’ Dance you’re engaged in.
Using your hypothetical, if that family and the other settlers weren’t in the West Bank last night, they wouldn’t have been killed by pedestrians from a neighboring village.
Please don’t deign to put words in my or my girlfriend’s mouth or thoughts in our heads; you don’t know me, I don’t know you, and based on what you’ve said in your comment, you have pretty thoroughly missed the point.
I won’t be bothered to respond to the clown circus here that’s onanistically engaged in moral sanctimony and high-hatted namecalling. Either you can discuss or you have to call names. I choose discussion; you’ve chosen to go all moral.
No one told them to live there.
Just as, if my lillywhite ass decided to rent a house in a “bad neighborhood” of my town and I insisted on flossing with expensive cars etc. among the poverty of my neighbors, there’s a certain – right or wrong – aspect of “well, you’ve willingly exposed yourself to the heightened risk of robbery”.
Living in disputed territories exposes one to a heightened risk of violence. Are you people seriously disagreeing with me on this point? It was the point of what my girl said.
No one said it deserves death; merely that when one settles in the disputed territories of what is indisputably still considered (at least by both sides’ militaries/militants) a war zone, one assumes the risk of dying there. Perhaps the settlers need to sleep with one eye open, given their choice of location (the disputed settlements).
Having recently watched a film entitled “Flipping Out”, which is ostensibly about the IDF “graduates” who take their separation pay and head to India to smoke themselves back into normalcy, where a not-insignificant number “flip out” and pretty much can’t get right after what they’ve been doing in war, I’m more convinced that Israel is currently in the early-mid stages of what America went through with Viet Nam and there will be some sort of resolution to this mess as the current early 20-somethings come of age and assume the mantle of governance, if not sooner.
Notwithstanding the offensive bias of outlets like BBC etc. who reflexively choose the Arab/Palestinian side in their slant of coverage, PJM readers should recognize that what we get here in the states is also subject to bias; there is much that goes on on both sides of this conflict that doesn’t make the news or is negligently underreported, here in the MSM *and* in the conservative/right political media. What I’m reading in everyone’s high-horse moral condemnation is an unwillingness to consider the totality of circumstances.
Now, did I just excuse these murderers in any way? Of course not; read the original post of mine too. This is unmitigated hatred and an unbelievably cruel crime and should not be dealt with lightly, not least of all because of some “Netanyahu made me do it” defense of the sort that might play well in US courtrooms. However, if we are serious about actually reaching some as-yet-unknowably-contoured settlement between Israel and the Palestinians/Arabs, at some point it will be necessary to actually hear their concerns and seek middleground. I know they tried 11 years ago and Arafat walked away like the crook that he is, and that Abbas is as flawed a messenger of peace as anyone, but somewhere down the line the “right man” is going to appear with whom it will be appropriate to go beyond dialog about the shape of the negotiating table.
We waste a lot of time and sanctimony pretending that every incident over there happens in a vacuum. We also waste a lot of time and energy pretending (based on the portrayal of conditions there) that Israel is everywhere unsafe and subject to constant bombings and attacks and that the Palestinian Territory is in constant state of smoldering wreckage. Neither representation is true, yet that is the dominant perception stateside based on media reportage. If what we had was a set of facts somewhat closer to truth, it would likely be easier to judge both sides fairly. We do not have that in the present media environment.
Sorry but the phrase “serves them right” appears to undermine your current explanation. I understand the risks of living in the west bank is higher than Israel proper but the slaughter of babies and little children is not a byproduct of war but calculated cold blooded murder by a vile individual undeserving of anything but the death penalty. No justifiable excuse can be offered to explain this crime away.
Who’s excusing it? Certainly not me. Read what I said. Those that excuse the murder are idiots, moral cripples or worse, or both. I’m not one of them.
But, if you choose to live in the roughest ‘hood on disputed gang turf, the idea that no one made you live there and you chose to anyway – exposing yourself and your children to the demonstrated high risk of violence befalling yourselves – you have assumed the risk that you will meet with such violence.
Do I wish this happened to them? Not in a million years. Do I excuse this action by the perps? Clearly not, in every one of the posts I’ve put up here. Do I think the Fogels foolishly assumed the risk? Yes, I do. Does that affect the level of sympathy for the parents? Yes; it’s somewhat attenuated by their own action.
I think it’s not inappropriate to ask why the hell someone would move their 8 kids into that neighborhood when there are so many other parts of Israel proper in which to settle. Martyring oneself for the sake of immanentizing the eschaton or whatever is as ridiculous, selfish and frankly stupid when a Jew does it as when the Arabs do. Call a spade a spade, for goodness sake.
On behalf of more than one hundred million Japanese, please allow me to express my deepest and most sincere apologies that the gigantic earthquake and tsunami which devastated our country committed the unforgivable crime of driving a crime against Israelis off the front page. We realize that 20000 dead and millions homeless in Japan means nothing compared to the deaths of five Israelis. Please forgive us.
…it’s the presence of evil in the persons of the murderers that brings attention during the Japanese crisis. There is plenty of attention do not worry. You could as well ask with all that is happening, what right have you to call attention to your own prejudices?
Poor misguided soul. If it had been Jews slashing the throats of 3 small arab children while i ntheir sleep, don’t doubt for a split second that your “more than one hundred million Japanese”, and your “gigantic earthquake and tsunami” WOULD have been driven off the first page!
Why Itamar was chosen
http://israelmatzav.blogspot.com/2011/03/why-itamar-was-chosen.html#links
‘Why did the ‘Palestinian’ terrorists choose Itamar to attack rather than another Jewish town? Palestinian Media Watch may have the answer….’
To Roger Simon,
Sir, I don’t understand your response to DavidN. Could you please elaborate?
Thank You.
1. It’s called REPRISAL, boys and girls. Wait ’til 0200 or 0300, then hit the “Palestinian” village where the trails led with 155 HE, ICM, and WP until nothing and no one remains. Reprisal is a traditional part of the international law of war and entirely overdue in dealing with muslim savages.
2. I have put my foot down on the subject of aliya. The wife and child are no way, no how making any trip to Israel. The Israeli political class-and I’m not just typing about Labor-has made it plain that they will not defend anyone in that country. For. Get. It.
3. For an encore, destroy Rafah as well. Same MO. Hit ‘em when they’re sleeping with enough HE and incendiaries to send them all screaming to their molester god.
Roger, you really hit the nail on the head.
“If it bleeds it leads” does not apply when Jewish blood is spilled.
Jewish blood is cheap to the media and elites.
Even if there was no tsunami, this story would be buried by the media and elites. The tsunami is just an excuse (yes, I also feel bad for the Japanese, but a tsunami does not have any malice or intention and cannot be condemned, punished, or deterred. Evil men who slit the throats of children in their beds are a totally different phenomenon)
This isn’t news. If the murderer were Israeli and the dead children were Palestinian, now THAT would drive the tsunami off the front pages.
“No one told them to live there.”
“Assumption of the risk” can occur when someone knowingly places themselves at risk of some fortuitous injury. When you attend a sports event involving flying balls or pucks, you might get hit by one. When you race your car, you might crash. When you try to shave a tiger, the tiger might object.
One can never be said to have assumed the risk that another human being will foully and evilly decide to murder you and your children. The murderers’ decision to murder completely supersedes any putative “assumption of the risk”.
To think otherwise is to excuse the immorality of the killers. To place blame for this subhuman act – any amount of blame, even trivial amounts – subtracts blame from the killers.
To subtract blame from the killers is to excuse the killers.
There is no excuse for these killers. It is time to recognize that they have completely devolved into a new subhuman species, one that must simply and finally be exterminated. They have been given every chance, and yet they continue to scream that they will kill Jews at every opportunity. The concept of “human rights” does not involve allowing them such opportunity.
At the risk of dislocating my shoulder patting myself on the back, it turned out I was right. The two perpetrators (they were caught, have confessed, and have provided forensic evidence that confirmed their stories) were Palestinian teenagers; however, they weren’t exactly terrorists: they were wannabes. They tried to join the local chapter of the PFLP but were turned down because they didn’t have guns, so they went to this Israeli village, intending to steal guns so they could join the organization that their uncle belonged to. The first house they entered only contained one gun, so they went to a second house. Even though they were armed with that rifle, they killed everyone with knives in order to avoid drawing attention to themselves. They killed the baby because he started to cry after his mother and father were killed. They left the daughters alone because they were shocked by the killings and just wanted to escape. Having escaped the house, they went to their PFLP uncle, who helped them by showing them how to burn their clothes, and disposed of the guns they’d stolen. Both the kids and the uncle have been arrested.
So, it was murder (we already knew that) with the motivation of stealing firearms. You could argue that they were trying to be terrorists, so that makes them terrorists, but there’s an aura of “me too” to the whole story that undermines that. In their society, remember, it’s the PFLP or Hamas guys who are seen as the “real men”. They drive around in limos, wear cool cammo clothing, brandish their guns and make bold speeches about how they’re going to kill the Jews. They also get all the girls, and all the stuff, that Palestinian society has. They’re cool, and these two idiots presumably wanted all of that. I’m not saying they shouldn’t be punished (I’m in favor of the death penalty, and when you kill 5 people in the middle of a theft, this would seem to be a good time to implement it), but they were *theives* not terrorists. The distinction is important, because among other things terrorists have sponsors, organizations who direct, fund, and plan operations that are then carried out. This wasn’t planned; it was a couple of kids who wanted to steal guns.