Tayyip Erdogan’s Cave of Wonders
Prince Metternich, the architect of the Holy Alliance against France, is supposed to have said after hearing news of the death of his arch-rival, the devious French diplomat Talleyrand, “I wonder what he meant by that?” Metternich (if he really said it) mean it as a joke. The State Department will ask what Turkey’s Prime Minister Recep Tayyip Erdogan meant by his outburst yesterday that Zionism is “a crime against humanity.”
Erdogan, after all, has “bonds of trust” with Barack Obama. Last year Obama told Fareed Zakaria of Time magazine that the “friendships and the bonds of trust” that he forged with Erdogan (whom he named among five foreign leaders) is “precisely, or is a big part of, what has allowed us to execute effective diplomacy.” What could the president’s friend have meant by that? Erdogan said exactly what he believes. The Turkish leader is a holdover from the enchanted world of rural Anatolia, in which Jewish conspiracies swirl in the night air along with jinn and witches. That is not an exaggeration, but an objective report, as I will explain below. No-one should be surprised. Lunatics have run better countries than Turkey in living memory.
I wrote in my 2011 book How Civilizations Die (and Why Islam is Dying, Too):
There is bizarre edge to Tayyip Erdogan. He is given to lurid, sometimes bloodthirsty outbursts. During a February 2008 visit to Germany, Turkey’s most important European trading partner, Erdogan scandalized his hosts when he told an audience of 20,000 Turks that assimilation into German culture was “a crime against humanity.” Germany, after all, knows a thing or two about crimes against humanity. German opinion was outraged, and Turkey’s chances for membership in the European Community—a pillar of Turkish diplomacy for a generation—fell to negligible. Erdogan ignored the uproar, and told the Turkish Parliament upon his return to Ankara, “I repeat… assimilation is a crime against humanity . . . . We can think differently from (Chancellor Angela) Merkel about this, but that is my opinion.” The German attitude towards its Turkish minority has swung from multicultural outreach to pessimism about their future in German society. In October 2010, German Chancellor Angela Merkel told a gathering of her political party that Germany’s attempt to create a multicultural society has “utterly failed.” As press reports paraphrased her remarks, “Allowing people of different cultural backgrounds to live side by side without integrating has not worked in a country that is home to some four million Muslims.”
We obtain some insight into Erdogan’s warped view of the world by considering the leading ideologue of Turkish Islamism, Fethullah Gulen. I profiled him in a September 2010 Asia Times essay. He presides over a business empire worth tens of billions of dollars and a system of Islamist schools that stretches from Central Asia to charter schools in the United States. The Gulen organization took control of Turkey by infiltrating its security services in a patient march through the institutions over the past two decades. Gulen’s pan-Turkic mysticism views Turkey as the center of a new caliphate uniting the Muslim world. He preaches a “Turkish renaissance” with a modern spin “to ensure that religion and science go together and that science penetrates not only individual lives, but also social life.”






Armenian genocide.
That's the "greatness" he wants to go back to.
Armenian genocide.
That's the "greatness" he wants to go back to.
"As of May 2012 Gülen lives in a gated retreat located in The Poconos; according to Bekir Aksoy, manager of the retreat, Gülen had been "very, very ill" for five to six months."
"As of May 2012 Gülen lives in a gated retreat located in The Poconos; according to Bekir Aksoy, manager of the retreat, Gülen had been "very, very ill" for five to six months."
from Mr spengler's 2010 article
" Turkish media, is Gulen. The 78-year-old imam has lived in self-imposed exile for two decades"
wiki writes he is 71 so is that is true he was 68 then
from Mr spengler's 2010 article
" Turkish media, is Gulen. The 78-year-old imam has lived in self-imposed exile for two decades"
wiki writes he is 71 so is that is true he was 68 then
I think Carl Sagon and Martin Gardner would be rolling in their graves to discover how the West, itself (never mind the idiocy of Islam), is destroying the very foundations of modernity. Btw, Carl Sagan's "The Demon-Haunted World: Science as a Candle in the Dark" (1997) is available in PDF... (show more)
I think Carl Sagon and Martin Gardner would be rolling in their graves to discover how the West, itself (never mind the idiocy of Islam), is destroying the very foundations of modernity. Btw, Carl Sagan's "The Demon-Haunted World: Science as a Candle in the Dark" (1997) is available in PDF for free. (Another excellent text against pseudoscience is Martin Gardner's "Fads and Fallacies in the Name of Science" (1952). Gardner included an entire chapter on Scientology -- still an excellent source). (show less)
Revelation 13
"11 Then I saw a second beast, coming out of the earth. It had two horns like a lamb, but it spoke like a dragon. 12 It exercised all the authority of the first beast on its behalf, and made the earth and its inhabitants worship the first beast, whose fatal wound had been healed. 13 And it performed great signs, even causing fire to come down from heaven to the earth in full view of the people. 14 Because of the signs it was given power to perform on behalf of the first beast, it... (show more)
Revelation 13
"11 Then I saw a second beast, coming out of the earth. It had two horns like a lamb, but it spoke like a dragon. 12 It exercised all the authority of the first beast on its behalf, and made the earth and its inhabitants worship the first beast, whose fatal wound had been healed. 13 And it performed great signs, even causing fire to come down from heaven to the earth in full view of the people. 14 Because of the signs it was given power to perform on behalf of the first beast, it deceived the inhabitants of the earth. It ordered them to set up an image in honor of the beast who was wounded by the sword and yet lived. 15 The second beast was given power to give breath to the image of the first beast, so that the image could speak and cause all who refused to worship the image to be killed. 16 It also forced all people, great and small, rich and poor, free and slave, to receive a mark on their right hands or on their foreheads, 17 so that they could not buy or sell unless they had the mark, which is the name of the beast or the number of its name.
18 This calls for wisdom. Let the person who has insight calculate the number of the beast, for it is the number of a man.[e] That number is 666.
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in some of the old dusty books the number is 616 so you think you defeated one and another pops up. What to do?
in some of the old dusty books the number is 616 so you think you defeated one and another pops up. What to do?
There I was with my very first encounter with Saint Mary Magdeline at the 6th heaven holy river and we walked together to the 6th heaven lake where she began with the meeting of each of the 7 angels and so much more all the way to the great ocean and to the boundry of the 6th and 6th heaven where the three merimad type nyphs appear in control of the time the ring of power is transported and Mary got deep into my head as how i turn the snake the dragon the lion into total innocence and we travel together to the Holy Mary Mother of God sanctuary mount neck out to sea with a great view all the way to 11 th heaven... (show more)
There I was with my very first encounter with Saint Mary Magdeline at the 6th heaven holy river and we walked together to the 6th heaven lake where she began with the meeting of each of the 7 angels and so much more all the way to the great ocean and to the boundry of the 6th and 6th heaven where the three merimad type nyphs appear in control of the time the ring of power is transported and Mary got deep into my head as how i turn the snake the dragon the lion into total innocence and we travel together to the Holy Mary Mother of God sanctuary mount neck out to sea with a great view all the way to 11 th heaven
When it was time to enter the 10 heaven and the Lilith sanctuary she ask me to leave her there but I desire to enter to see if I could see the Holy Pope of Island sanctuary and i could not so I beagn to think of this lilith as being in some kind of prison and Saint Mary Magdeline was there to free her so she too can share in the mission for God all the way to the western boundery of the 10th heaven which would mean the beast man experience will be surrounded by all the heavens and all the angels and of the jinn and there will be no escapre for them except to repent and find healing and their innocense . This is my hope . Who know? When I visit John Calvin in hell and his dusty books he read for 500 years I see their was a trap door under his bed and I wonder if their were more rooms like his with dusty books other souls are reading to catch up with Satan the devil's tree of knowledge of good and bad
If this is there heaven this is not my mistake to put it politely
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keep bringing out more God forsaken experience please so the 13 heavens turn this to innocence someday (show less)
So much the worse for the 'modern world', then, however you choose to define it. All three have outlasted many a "modern world" that smugly assumed its permanence. This one too shall pass. Berman has a clue:
<a href="http://www.amazon.com/Reenchantment-World-Morris-Berman/dp/0801492254" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">http://www.amazon.com/Reenchantment-World-Morris-Berman/dp/0801492254</a> So does Wimsett: <a href="http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/0674015452/" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/0674015452/</a>
So much the worse for the 'modern world', then, however you choose to define it. All three have outlasted many a "modern world" that smugly assumed its permanence. This one too shall pass. Berman has a clue:
<a href="http://www.amazon.com/Reenchantment-World-Morris-Berman/dp/0801492254" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">http://www.amazon.com/Reenchantment-World-Morris-Berman/dp/0801492254</a> So does Wimsett: <a href="http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/0674015452/" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/0674015452/</a>
Even may be being kommunist in our youth, being antikommunist now,
who knows what next,
we were always kind of scientific in the sense of physics rules.
Believing in anatolian or other witches is for us the path downward for mankind.
frank
Even may be being kommunist in our youth, being antikommunist now,
who knows what next,
we were always kind of scientific in the sense of physics rules.
Believing in anatolian or other witches is for us the path downward for mankind.
frank
in case Lilith gets frisky with me I bring Saint Mary Magdeline the first human being flesh eyes to see Jesus with the stone removed from his tomb. I'm sure Lilith was peaking at the great event so they can share stories and I believe I will be well protected from the frisky jinn
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in case Lilith gets frisky with me I bring Saint Mary Magdeline the first human being flesh eyes to see Jesus with the stone removed from his tomb. I'm sure Lilith was peaking at the great event so they can share stories and I believe I will be well protected from the frisky jinn
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The Lilith sanctuary will then be in the 10th heaven with the two 10th heavens to translate in the future but this will be the only 10th heaven with a view of the Island of the Holy Pope of Rome with all the souls of the Popes from the very beginning
The Lilith sanctuary will then be in the 10th heaven with the two 10th heavens to translate in the future but this will be the only 10th heaven with a view of the Island of the Holy Pope of Rome with all the souls of the Popes from the very beginning
<a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jinn" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jinn</a>
<a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jinn" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jinn</a>
I always feel cheated when I get up bright and early on a Monday or Tuesday morning to read you column and you write about religion. Your Monday column on the Vatican was an exception. Although the realities of a new Pope have never been much of a thought for me, I realize that Jews in particular have been spoiled over the course of my lifetime with respect to Popes. We have probably had the most Jew friendly Popes in the history of the church in the form of Benedict and John Paul.
Your comments and dershowitz as well really scared me. Your column almost read like an obituary for the church. Dershowitz and your fears about a "Third World Pope" aware SERIOUS considerations I never took into account. I really owe benedict an apology too. My friends and I have repetaedly joked about how... (show more)
I always feel cheated when I get up bright and early on a Monday or Tuesday morning to read you column and you write about religion. Your Monday column on the Vatican was an exception. Although the realities of a new Pope have never been much of a thought for me, I realize that Jews in particular have been spoiled over the course of my lifetime with respect to Popes. We have probably had the most Jew friendly Popes in the history of the church in the form of Benedict and John Paul.
Your comments and dershowitz as well really scared me. Your column almost read like an obituary for the church. Dershowitz and your fears about a "Third World Pope" aware SERIOUS considerations I never took into account. I really owe benedict an apology too. My friends and I have repetaedly joked about how Benedict has a "Jew hatin face". I know it sounds stupid but Im sure some folks (Jews) who look at him will know what i mean. ANyways, while I stand by the "Jew hatin face" comment, its clear that the Jewish peolple have never had a better friend in a Pope.
However, you fears about a third world people are very palpable and very real. AMd actually, its not a question of "if" but "when" we will get a third world Jew/Capitalist hating Pope.
Which brings me to this artticle about Erdogan! You (rightfully) mock him for his belief in Jins and his peasant world view. But once again, I have to tell u that if you think this nutty superstition is unique to islam, you really dont get it. The entire Latino commitment to Catholicism is no different than Erdogans Jins! These 3rd world Catholics, and even plenty in the modern world too have a belief system that is no different. This people believe in Stigmata, spells, exorcisms etc. Indeed Jesus is just the ULTIMATE Jin for these people. The appeal of a human being sacraficed to attone for sins is something right out of the theology of Baal! Indeed MUCH religion, including Jews is still going dtrong based on the belief that God or Jesus is the ultimate Jin. And through beilief in Jesus you bring good spirits upon youself.
Islam doesnt have a monopoly on stupid fantasctic beliefs. They just have a good market share. But many Christians and Jews are no better. Its no wonder Christians in particular need to have missionaries. So much of their doctrine is based upon bringing the forces of magic to help members of the flock. When the magic works to your favor you are a believer. But when the magic crosses you well then you start looking for a new magician. I had this converstaion with a friend who is a Catholic Priest and also an exorcist. I didnt think exorcists were real. But they are. he was getting real annoyed with my skepticism about the whole possession thing.
I will say again because it needs repeating. Islam is NOT uniquely unsuited to the modern world. Crazy Jews and christians are equally unsuited. (show less)
Agreed, and in general, 'Worldview X" (pick your favorite) is unlikely to be empty of adherents with 'stupid fantastic beliefs' if the number of adherents is more than can fit into a small meeting hall. The difficulty comes when the unifying narratives that support these beliefs imply the urgency of exterminating the group to which one belongs, and sufficient numbers of adherents with sufficient influence in your community are committed to translate that urgency into public policy and action.
Magical thinking is as much a malady of the "modern" global climate change zealots as it is of the indigenous peoples of third world countries, and the indifferently tutored followers of Torah and Jesus. It also thrives among rank... (show more)
Agreed, and in general, 'Worldview X" (pick your favorite) is unlikely to be empty of adherents with 'stupid fantastic beliefs' if the number of adherents is more than can fit into a small meeting hall. The difficulty comes when the unifying narratives that support these beliefs imply the urgency of exterminating the group to which one belongs, and sufficient numbers of adherents with sufficient influence in your community are committed to translate that urgency into public policy and action.
Magical thinking is as much a malady of the "modern" global climate change zealots as it is of the indigenous peoples of third world countries, and the indifferently tutored followers of Torah and Jesus. It also thrives among rank materialists who think their utopian plans can be realized by pursuing them with sufficient determination - as was so frequently demonstrated in the past century, and more recently in the financial calamities of the past decade.
A less a-historical consideration of the relation between religion and magic can be found in studies like this: <a href="http://www.amazon.com/Religion-Decline-Magic-Penguin-History/dp/0140137440" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">http://www.amazon.com/Religion-Decline-Magic-Penguin-History/dp/0140137440</a> - (show less)