Yesterday, I was cabbing up Park Avenue in New York. Somewhere just north of Grand Central, I noticed a crowd of people with placards milling about on the sidewalk. The word “Racism” figured prominently on the signs and I caught a snatch or two of oratory: “The message is,” said this urban Demosthenes, “if you’re an illegal alien, you’re not welcome.”
Was this an ’enry ’iggins moment? Was the crowd going to ejaculate: “By George, I think he’s got it”?
Not a chance. I was by now motoring past this cheery scene of citizens (but were they citizens?) exercising their constitutionally protected right to make a public nuisance of themselves. But it was clear that the assembled multitude shared the speaker’s indignation at the fact that if you were in this country illegally you were not welcome.
You and I, untrained in the higher hermeneutics of politically correct grievance mongering, might think that because someone was in the country illegally, therefore he would by definition be “unwelcome.” Q., that is to say, E.D. The bit about being illegal veritably entails the bit about being unwelcome.
Or so I would have thought. But that simplistic line of argumentation is apparently not to the taste of the many righteous souls, including Attorney General Eric Holder, who have seized upon Arizona’s decision to protect its long border with Mexico and enforce the immigration laws.
Most of us, I submit, would regard Arizona’s new law — a law, by the way, whose chief burden is to affirm that henceforth it will enforce the laws that already apply to immigration — most of us, I say, would regard that law as a salutary exercise in that most uncommon virtue, common sense. Our reasons for concluding this might be framed thus:
1. The United States is a sovereign country whose duty to its citizens includes protecting the country’s borders and ascertaining that its extraordinarily generous immigration policy is not abused.
2. There has been massive illegal immigration from Mexico that has sorely tested the social fabric of the Southwest, threatening to turn large parts of the region into what Victor Davis Hanson has called “Mexifornia.”
3. Individual states, especially those bordering Mexico (though let’s not forget Rhode Island!), have a duty to enforce the immigration laws and discourage illegal immigration.
Example: You are an Arizona police officer. You see a van sail through a red light. You stop the van. The van is occupied by six individuals. You ask the driver for his license and registration. “No entiendo.” Are you racist if you investigate further?
I say no. Why? To put the discussion in perspective, let me share with you a communication a friend sent me yesterday.
American citizens must also prove their identities and be subjected to background checks when exercising our constitutional right to acquire firearms. Based on the widespread violence along the Mexican border similar enforcement has not been applied to all those who might come here illegally.
Ironically, Mexico vigorously enforces its immigration laws.
There is, of course, the rule of law, which the Obama regime, more than any other I’ve witnessed, ignores. Without the rule of law, we are slipping into tyranny. Remember that too in November.
I think you’re exactly right.
The principal complaint that the feds are making in their suit against the state of Arizona goes something like this: “We’ve decided not to enforce the law, therefore you can’t either.”
The executive branch, in choosing to ignore laws that it is bound to observe and enforce, and suing a state government for refusing to go along, is directly attacking the rule of law as the foundation of American government.
This should be remembered come November, but it should also be remembered each and every day.
Do not forget that the people who are doing these terrible things are terrible people. The fight against evil is eternal. It is a daily battle. It doesn’t come and go with election cycles.
It has been clear for some time that the cry of “racism” would be screamed by the left if ANY serious effort was made to enforce current immigration laws. If it hadn’t been the Arizona law it would have been something else. Border enforcement is (as pointed out here) one of the most obvious symbols of national soverignity. The left has been peddling the notion for forty years that the U.S. is somehow an “illegitimate” state (for reasons of racism, sexism, genderism, country music and a fondness for red meat) and therefore has no right to claim “soverignity” over anything.
We should also recognize the 900 lb. gorilla in the living room – The left sees illegals currently in the country and the Mexicans that would enter the country under “immigration reform” as potential voters and shock troops that will support a radical agenda, particularly in the Southwest. (Sort of a form of ideological cannon fodder.) In effect they are appealing to a foreign nation to help them in their not-so-underground struggle with the United States. The Democrats are nervously trying to keep a foot in each camp – They don’t want to alienate current U.S. voters by pushing for “open borders” but they want to snag the prize of ten to twenty Latino voters if and when “comprehensive immigration reform” (what an Orwellian term) does take place.
And what the “progressives” don’t see- or maybe just don’t want to look at- is that Mexico’s government is openly encouraging, aiding and abetting the illegal immigration.
They have several reasons, most obviously being that as long as they can use the United States as an “escape valve” for their poorest and most discontented populations, the self-styled “hidalgos” who run the country can avoid any reform of their corrupt, kleptocratic pseudo-democracy that would damage their own power, influence, and Swiss bank accounts. (Or do they do their banking in Luxembourg these days?)
There is also the factor that nobody wants to talk about. Namely, radical groups like MechA, the National Council of la Raza, etc., who constantly beat the drum about “reclaiming the Stolen Territories”- by demographics if feasible, by force if necessary (or just because they think it would be fun). To say that nobody seriously believes in this violent pipe-dream overlooks the fact that for the last thirty-plus years, such groups have engaged in “civil disobedience” north of the Rio Grande, while being closely allied with the government south of it. And that their “demands” have grown progressively more extravagant- and divorced from reality- with each passing year.
I would have said that they had no chance of getting what they want (starting with the voiding of the Treaty of Guadalupe-Hidalgo, going on to the “Nation of Aztlan’”, and ending with taking everything west of the Mississippi and south of the Canadian border), but that was before we had an incompetent, radical, and delusional narcissist in the Oval Office.
By the way, if you listen to the recent rhetoric flowing from these groups, and their friends in academia in Mexico and the U.S. both, they are increasingly using the same sort of “talking points” used by the various Palestinian groups against Israel. Which probably explains why their “arguments” are now fashionable amongst the academic elite’. It’s another symptom of the “death to Western Civilization” delusion that afflicts our “best and brightest”- quite possibly the most extensive and persistent mental aberration since the Tulipomania that afflicted England in the 17th century.
As to why the Mexican government would sign on to this, I think they’re smart enough to notice that arguments based on the idea of “oppression of the disadvantaged by the evil Americans, etc.” sells very well with the American news media, as well as our self-styled “enlightened elite’”. If we’re foolish enough to give them such a prybar, they’d have to be crazy not to use it- on us.
For all of the reasons stated above, I don’t see any quick, or rational, resolution of this situation, or of the illegal immigration problem as a whole. Because most of the government officials responsible for creating both are venal, grasping, power-hungry, and corrupt, and most of their facilitators have about as much contact with reality as the average acidhead at Woodstock in 1969.
Or the average member of Hamas, for that matter, which pretty much amounts to the same thing on both counts.
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What can citizens do, today, to prevent that from happening (the passing of amnesty for millions of illegals)? What action can we start taking?
I have a friend who says the solution is very simple: give illegals a certain period of time (30-60-90-120 days, take your pick) to self-deport; if they don’t, confiscate all their property, sell it to the highest bidder, split the proceeds between the state and federal governments.
I’ll vote for any Congress person that supports this idea. Maybe I’ll vote for all of them
good idea!!
VOTE EARLY!!! VOTE OFTEN!!! ..in the same election….
What can we do? Sign up at NumberUSA dot org, support Californians for population control, subscribe to Center for Immigration studies, call your congressman and your senators, and spread the word via the internet. For starters. Don’t vote for Diane Feinstein, Barbara Boxer, the New Jersey senators, either of the Virginia senators.
As I read it, Mr. Holder said the Arizona law is unconstitutional and he proposes to test that theory in the courts.
The real problem here seems to be the inability of congress to get its act together long enough to pass immigration reform.
If the left is screaming, ‘racism”. the right is screaming. “terrorism” and “murder” with no evidence of any effect on same.
If there’s an elephant, it’s the employers who knowingly hire, and have been hiring for years, this source of cheap labor.
If Eric Holder files suit against Arizona — which he apparently has done — because the Arizona law is “unconstitutional,” he is in effect saying that the Federal laws against illegal immigration are unconstitutional since the Arizona law is mirrored on the Federal laws. Could this be the ultimate goal of Obama and company?? Repeal, instead of reform?
“he is in effect saying that the Federal laws against illegal immigration are unconstitutional”
No, he is saying that Federal law preempts state law in this matter. Lets follow the case and see where it comes out. More cases will follow, and we will find out what kind of country we are going to have.
Thought experiment: Foreign, illegal, labor is available by the millions and because of competition and invisibility to labor law, cheap. One employer employs this cheap labor and gains a cost advantage vs. his competition. This forces more competitors to also hire the cheap labor to remain viable as a business (see hospitality, food service, construction, et al). Result: None of the employers can then disengage from the practice without committing business suicide. This spiral trap is characteristic of bubbles.
Individual employers can’t burst the bubble, and to blame them individually is ineffective and disingenuous. Removal of the cheap labor is the primary remedy, coupled with active enforcement of labor law as reinforcement.
What really needs to be done is make it prohibitively expensive for any employer to hire an illegal. If caught, every employer should have to pay a fine of $10,000 per illegal per day they employ. That way it becomes too expensive to hire an under-the-table, non-tax-paying, sociatal leach who does nothing but consume government benefits that come out of our taxes. Then the businesses that do not hire illegals will be able to flourish again.
Except that now you create a group of unemployables. Do you really think they’re going back home? They’ll just join the gangs that are already here or go on welfare. The only viable solution, which the Dems and Republicans won’t do, is to seal the border first and start deporting anyone who breaks the least law and is here illegally ( and I don’t just mean hispanics).
The Governors of the border states should declare a state of emergency and call out their militias (National Guard) and do what the feds won’t do– protect the United States by sealing the border. It’s time to apply the tenth amendment again. Defy corrupt thugs like Holder and Obama and do the right thing
Do I think they’re going to go back home?
Yes, I do. Because we’ve already seen that start to happen under the current recession. There has been a mass exodus from many of the states where illegals have gone for work as that work has started drying up, especially in the illegal-friendly jobs like building construction.
The saying used to be, “Build it and they will come.”
Nowadays it’s, “Stop building and they will leave in droves.”
It seems to me that with ever rising minimum wages, mandatory medical insurance, workplace regulations, environmental regulations, and a host of other government imposed costs, it is prohibitively expensive to hire LEGAL labor.
Pass immigration reform?
Immigration law doesn’t need to be reformed. The enforcement of immigration law most definitely does.
The existing laws need to be enforced stringently and consistently. If this were done we would not have a problem with illegal aliens.
As the owner of an American construction co, I spent 2 yrs living in Dubai. During that 2 yrs, I was asked at least 30 times to show my “papers”. I carried them with me at all times. I EXPECTED to be asked to show them! Obviously I was not a middle eastern native!
All apt mgrs were REQUIRED to examine visa papers for ALL NON-NATIVE RESIDENTS every single month. We non-natives had to update our papers to make sure we were ALWAYS current. Otherwise, adios!
We Americans were not offended…not at all. We were there legally and understood why we had to frequently verify that status.
It is beyond me why the US can’t do the same re “papers”!!!!!!!
The bottom line is that the radical, open-borders lobby of the Left and Right have made it their mantra to cry “racism” at any measure or effort to enforce our laws or restrict benefits/privileges of citizenship or legal residency to U.S. citizens and legal immigrants. The open-borders lobby want illegal aliens in this country to be left alone and free from any constraints on their ability to reside and work here illegally, to evade taxes, to evade deportation, to evade a multitude of our laws, to commit whatever type of fraud, deception necessary in order to remain here. The hypocrisy is staggering. The OBL (open-borders lobby) decries any worksite enforcement or raids and complains that ICE should only focus on criminal aliens. O.K. but when ICE or any state like Arizona goes after criminal aliens, the OBL complains about that as well and then they say…”go after the employers”. O.K. When several states and even the fed’s have implemented mandatory E-Verify …the OBL complains and rails against that too…even though E-Verify works 97% of the time. Do you get the picture? They don’t want any laws enforced at all whether civil, administrative or criminal…illegal aliens must be allowed to stay and those that oppose it are “racist” ..and apparently that even applies to Americans of Hispanic descent like me who expect everyone to abide by our laws no matter their country of origin. Secure the borders. Enforce the laws. Si Se Puede. Ya es Hora!
Why is it necessary to give a rat’s ass what the OBL types think or want?
Seriously though, just because they whine and complain and call people names, does that mean we should give them what they want?
How about we give them what they need instead, a firm boot to their collective behinds?
Some would argue we have an undocumented POTUS so what’s good for him….
People like you were best depicted in “Close Encounters of a Third Kind,” when normal people wanted to talk about somehing, and some bozo on an acid flashback started to talk about seeing Sasquatch.
Only idiots “would argue” what you say, and the argument is not only silly, it distracts people from the issue: millions of illegals pouring over our border, swamping our schools, hospitals and our economy.
Take off the tin foil hat, and deal with the main issue. Obama is not the problem: the problem is that Washington D.C. allowed millions of people to stay here and lots of people now have a vested interest in allowing them to stay.
And lets not forget that under George Bush, millions of illegals poured across the border with the passive assistance of John McCain. The GOP is a very late arrival at this debate: all of Washington D.C. ignored this for over a decade. The problem now is that there ARE millions of them here now and its a lot harder to do things that could have been done 20 years ago.
This is not between Republicans and democrats: its between people that see nothing wrong with the US being swamped with millions of poor people from another country, and those that believe that by gosh there are good practical reasons for not allowing that.
Try to deal with reasons, facts and avoid the “bash Obama” rhetoric. Its childish. It gets no where.
Good to know…Obama’s not the problem, people like me are (hint: I think the border should be closed). I think I’ll donate another $50 to keepazsafe in your name.
Hey, maybe Smithy is advocating we not enforce immigration law because there are so many other more productive things the border patrol can be doing, like picking daisys or shuttling Mexicans into Los Angeles for the next riot. After all, it seems like a dumb law anyway, and if Smithy thinks it’s dumb, why should the US bother enforcing it? (Pretty much the same opinion he has of any other law that actually gets enforced in this country, like jaywalking and anti-rioting.)
Obama was born in Hawaii.
He was duly elected president of the united states by the majority of the public in accordance with our laws.
When Birthers start in with hallucinations about his birth certificate being fake, it makes everyone who opposes his Marxist agenda look bad.
He was born in Hawaii. He was legitimately elected. Please have the integrity to deal with these facts rationally instead of working to deny reality because it is not to your liking.
Good article, one place where you don’t need an ID, at least here in Minnesota, is at the ballot box. Ask Senator Franken about it.
They don’t require ID in Massachusetts either, which was a real shock to me the first time I went to vote after moving here.
The law was proposed (in fact, has been proposed at least twice in the 7 years I have lived here) and every time it is, the leftys cry “Racist!” Because you know, legal aliens and native-born residents have absolutely NO way to get government ID in Massachusetts, right?
The real gorilla: Mexico has given the United States millions of Casi Belli. We already have a cold war of twenty years standing.
Mexico should be considered, for all practical purposes, an enemy state. The left in this country, which includes la Raza, MEChA, ANSWER, and corparatists fronting as business leaders in the “corporate world” are equally undermining our system of laws and government. It’s a multi-front cold war we are against, not to mention the rest of the socialists and jihadists out there who would destroy us as well.
“Echo answers, Why? I know the answer, and you do, too. Remember it come November.”
Yeah, right. Tell that to the thousands of Minnesota voters who now endure Air America outcast Al Franken snoozing in Coleman’s senate seat. (One hundred “overlooked” ballots in the backseat of an election judge, all for Al; how special is that…)
Well one way to fix this is to not be intimidated and afraid of being called racist. Speak out and speak loudly and don’t let the other side go without retaliation. Make documentaries on illegal immigration and air it on National Geographic or Discovery Channel. Get the message out of why we’re right and dilute the liberal saturation of the media.
Stop the foolish hate. Yes close the borders. STOP THE IGNORANCE & HATE. FIRST CHECK OUT FACTS THEN MAKE A EDUCATED DECISION.
This week, the Federation for American Immigration Reform (FAIR) came out with a report entitled, The Fiscal Burden of Illegal Immigration on U.S.
Taxpayers, which discusses the costs of unauthorized immigration to the United States. As usual, FAIR has put out a highly misleading fiscal
snapshot of the costs allegedly imposed on U.S. taxpayers by unauthorized immigrants and completely discounts the economic contributions of
unauthorized workers and consumers. Moreover, FAIR inflates their costs in a variety of ways and conveniently ignores any contributions that would
offset these costs.
While the publication is long and deals with a wide range of issues that warrant more dissection by credible economic experts, the trade publication
Education Week has already begun the deconstruction with an item that sheds light on their misleading claims about providing English language
services in schools.
According to the Immigration Policy Center (IPC), FAIR’s report suffers from three fatal flaws:
* The report notes that the single biggest “expense” it attributes to unauthorized immigrants is the education of their children, yet most of these
children are native-born, U.S. citizens who will grow up to be tax-paying adults. It is disingenuous to count the cost of investing in the education of
these children, so that they will earn higher incomes and pay more in taxes when they are adults, as if it were nothing more than a cost incurred by
their parents.
* The report fails to account for the purchasing power of unauthorized consumers, which supports U.S. businesses and U.S. jobs.
* The report ignores the value added to the U.S. economy by unauthorized workers, particularly in the service sector.
In contrast to FAIR’s report, the Perryman Group estimated that if all unauthorized workers and consumers were somehow removed from the U.S.
economy, the United States would lose $552 billion in total economic activity (“expenditures”), $245 billion in Gross Domestic Product (GDP), and
2.8 million jobs.” This doesn’t count the billions it would cost to actually implement a mass deportation program.
Another argument FAIR makes, which makes it hard to glean what their solution would be is the high cost of deporting undocumented workers which
FAIR blames on the immigrants themselves. It’s a somewhat circular argument to say that the cost of undocumented immigrants includes the cost of
failing law enforcement efforts. So, in essence, FAIR is saying that the deport-them-all approach costs too much money and doesn’t work. Yet their
“solution” is to spend even more money on enforcement.
FAIR’s data is meant only to reinforce their vision of “attrition through enforcement.” It is not rooted in an effort to move the immigration debate
forward. Therefore, passing comprehensive immigration reform – which would yield a cumulative $1.5 trillion in added U.S. gross domestic product over
10 years – is the only sound economic decision the United States can make.
SOURCE Immigration Policy Center
About the US born children of illegals – please show me the discounted cash flow analysis that proves their addition to the population is a net benefit?
Ah, I see. If an illegal act is found to have any benefit what so ever, then the illegal act should be forgiven or the law should be changed to accommodate those that break it. Nice! Now if We all ignore laws that regulate how fast We drive, Traffic will move faster and We will get to where We are going quicker. Thereby letting Us be more efficient and waste less time driving and more time working. Brilliant! I call for reform of all laws! They are far to intrusive and Not to mention a hassle to follow. And so much could be accomlished if We all said “Hell with it!” and just do what We want.
Wow! I never realized what a great “investment” this whole illegal immigration thing turns out to be. Why don’t we also see if we can get 8 million Canadians to come down here? In fact, let’s open the borders completely. Then we’ll all be rolling in dough in 10 years.
Can I personally get a piece of the action? You know, I’ll sponsor some illegals, pay all of their social costs and the unemployment benefits for the legal Americans whose jobs have been taken. But then I will get a percentage of the taxes that their children end up paying. Ready to put your own money in such a scheme Mr. “Facts” ? I didn’t think so. But you want to dictate to the rest of us that we all should make this “investment”.
Children born here from parents who are illegal are, in fact, the product of illegal immigration and should be counted as such. They cost our system a bloody fortune, and would not be citizens except for a terrible loophole in our constitution that desperately needs correction. Further, all the illegals who plan in one way or another to get into the US are well aware of the fact that if they can drop an anchor baby, it will be much tougher to deport the mother; this opens the door for the rest of the family to get to the front of the line, or, as Nancy Pelosi put it “we don’t break up families in this country.” That is the biggest dispute with FAIR’s analysis, and I think FAIR wins that argument cleanly; the costs of children born from illegals are the result of illegals and are part of that burden, even if the child is now a US citizen and the parents are not.
Nancy says, “We don’t break up families,” so we send the children of Russian spies to live in Russia even though they were born here. Why not follow that example with the children of any illegal immigrants?
November… The Road to Impeachment.
Kevin I think you are right. Isn’t is odd that all of us have to prove our legal status with true birth certificates,but that rule doesn’t apply to POTUS is unbelievable. The live birth record, he used is not a valid record. I also read that he attended Occidental college using funds intended for foreign students.Maybe that is the reason ,for the expenditure of millions of dollars, spent to seal all his past information.
Impeachment? not for this Kenyan.
Sorry, Roger, but you like so many others have been taken to the laundry by Obama in this Arizona/ immigration affair -
It’s not about fed vs. state authority, and it’s not about racial profiling, etc -
No matter how much the dems would love to rapidly inject in this nation’s tissue 13 millions of new, and Democrat conditione voters, their and Obama’s first and foremost concern is Obama’s surviving the legitimacy challenge, problem stubbornly un-addressed or deflected -
And this concern and manoever is actually behind Holder’s suing Arizona -
A short reminder of this affair’s progress:
1) last session, the Arizona legislature had amongst other bills, a nice legislative trifecta (a)/(b)/(c) to vote for before the end of the past session – a nightmarish troika, for liberals -
2) and of this legislative trifecta, the bill (a) which addressed the immigration issue passed -
2) then the bill (b) rectifying the absurd dimenssions multiculturalism has taken in schools also passed –
3) yet the vote on the third bill, (c) i.e. the BURGESS BILL which will require presidential candidates/ campaigns to PRODUCE HARD EVIDENCE of eligibility in order to be placed on the Arizona ballot (apage Satana! this idea strikes terror in the, decayed as it is, liberals’ souls), was postponed for some reasons, to be re-introduced the incoming session -
And it is this frightening prospect of having Obama to prove his legitimacy for the next presidential election is what has triggered the Democrats’ assault on Arizona – the immigration law suit being the tool they hope will intimidate rep. Burgess and the republicans and stop them trying to pass this fall the “constitutional eligibility evidence” bill -
Again, of course the Dems have a big interest in injecting 13 million people in this nation’s demographic tissue, people who would be dedicated Dem voters, by cultural background and indifference for the American values – after all, this is how the Democrats have been clinging to power for a couple of generations -
Yet it’s Obama’s survival that is the most pressing issue for them, so while Holder’s assault on AZ might put some electoral wind in the Dems’ sails, its main objective is to save Obama’s rear – show the birth certificate, mister president -
And while we don’t know what’s going to happen with this asinine lawsuit, whether it will be tossed out by the Court or will travel further, one thing is certain – this lawsuit has added lots of weight to the Dems’ already laden wings, and the resent resulting from this gross abuse will further add to the existing suspicionds regarding dba Obama’s constitutional legitimacy -
Hehehe, a funny thought – after all, why someone who doesn’t (or cannot) produce a proof of his constitutional legitimacy as president, would accept a law that requires an obviously illegitimate resident produce evidence clarifying his/her her status in this country? Some birds of a feather don’t have papel -
A couple humorous cartoons on this topic.
“Acting Stupidly” at http://drawfortruth.wordpress.com/2010/07/07/acting-stupidly/ about the current lawsuit.
“Cents-less” at http://drawfortruth.wordpress.com/2010/07/09/cents-les/ about the waste of resources and the situation Arizona taxpayers will find themselves in.
“Words are Not Enough” at http://drawfortruth.wordpress.com/2010/06/28/consistently-unacceptable/
A few thoughts on Roger Kimball’s mention of Victor David Hanson’s MEXIFORNIA;
I moved from Ohio to Phoenix in ’99 – immediately enjoying like everyone else a roubust economy with virtually zero unemployment. There was no open visable racial problems here when it came to the long tradition of an ebb and flow concerning illegals comming to ‘find work’…ect…
This all began to change after 9/11…but the changes were subtle at first. Not only was it antagonistic that Mexico demonstrably refused to support our efforts in Iraq & Afganistan – they were quite pushy when it came to demanding we ‘solve’ this ‘immigration problem.’ It was pretty much our fault – just like drugs – we were the consumers who were causing all this. We are addicted to drugs and cheap labor.
Mr Hanson came out with MEXIFORNIA in 2003 – and I got my first look at it around early 2004. By this time there had been dramatic changes here on the immigration front.
First, we elected Janet Napolitano. I can’t stand this woman, but, I must admit, she was for most of her time considered a ‘popular’ gov. What she was to my view was a dedicated progressive dem, a woman who did everything possible to turn what is by state constitutional design a weak executive -ment to serve the legislative body & not the other way around – into a commanding strong executive position.
She is a pol dedicated to the principle there is no problem Gov wasn’t invented to solve, and even if there is no problem, Gov still represents the best preventitive medicine.
The Napolitano reign in Az governmnent closely resembles what the post Pete Wilson era was like in California. Only instead of conquoring Arizona for one party progressive Democrat rule, we have maintained a largely dominate conservative Republican legislature.
We did during the six plus years of Napolitano see a majority flip on the congressional caucus however – AND – with the national recognition Napolitano got some pundits viewed that the demographics in this state as trending purple to blue…
Namely, that the politics of the state that Barry Goldwater built were changing into a new modern liberal-friendly enviornment. And there were two particular demographics that were driving this – immigration – an ‘uncertain number’ of which seemed to be ‘undocumented’ – & the other in-migration – a surge comming from all places CALIFORNIA.
While some of these folks are rich entertainers like Rod Stewart and Bruce Springsteen (who live here only briefly just as they do in many other cities the world over)- or various A list/B list/C list wealthy retired athletes like Charles Barkley (many ex professional Baseballers)- it also includes plenty of below the line movie industry types who just got sick of the cost of living in a state that was no longer as attractive as it once was -besides the more modest everyday business families driven out of CAli by the very changes Hanson elucidates eloquently in MEXIFORNIA.
I and my friends noticed how we were running into a lot of ex-californians who had cashed in on the crazy land values they earned and left behind a state where it was no longer attractive to either run a business or raise a family. Just in the difference of housing values prior to them going crazy here in ’06-’07 – people could buy triple what they struggled to pay off in Cali once moving here.
Reading MEXIFORNIA, while living through the blatant oppertunistic political shennanigans of Janet Napolitano – who saw the best chance to ‘reform’ the conservative state of AZ into a liberal democratic friendly place in the blue column – by turning AZ into a sanctuary open boarders enclave – helped make sense of what was happening.
Arizona wasn’t alone in attracting this exodus of discouraged Californians – Nevada, Colorado, Utah did as well during this same period.
It is very hard to articulate without literally writing a book exactly what has been happening here since the immigration debate picked up with folks like JD Hayworth & Tom Tancredo in 2004-2005.
Unlike prior waves of illegal immigration, almost immediately illegals after 2000 were absobed as ipso facto citizens – which I believe is part of the reason these people so angrily demand amnesty. Where as before they rented and were transient – now they bought homes, could estabish the credit for that homeownership, buy cars, start a biz.
Like it or not – and now most Arizonians don’t like it or any longer tolerate it – the State was complicit. And now, WEASLES THAT THEY ARE THESE POLS HAVE THE TEMERITY TO TRY AND TELL US CITIZENS WE ARE ALSO ‘PARTLY TO BLAME’ AS WELL. (Janet – Stand up and take a bow!)
TOTAL CROCK~!
Unless you live in Maricopa County (which is about 73% of the states entire population) you cannot begin to understand how this current recession, coming after a doubling or more of the latino population (much of it illegal) further exaserbated the widespread unemployment brought on with the housing and credit busts.
While people all over the country are judging us one way or the other, and the major players in the political arena are splitting hairs over whether there are 400,000 illegals here or 2 million and how many are leaving and how many are living in fear or what ever, suffice it to say this much.
It is a lousy situation. The state, like most others, has lost 70% plus of its revenues since Napolitano buggered out and abandoned ship.
This is exactly about the common sense Roger mentions. It’s also why the vast majority of Arizonians don’t care squat about Holder and his minions mounting a legal brief.
The state is in terrible shape. The economy is a disaster and has been for the past three years. And Janet Napolitano as chief of Homeland Security is about as popular as Lebron James with most residents here. Few Democrats even try and defend her decision to ‘serve her president when he called’ in lue of what she owed the people of Arizona when this reciession hit.
She is a coward and a liar of the highest order – a virtual poster child for all that is wrong in the modern american politician; autocratic, inept, self-serving. It a perverse way she is the perfect secretary of ‘Homeland Security’ – a soviet style bloted gov agency that does anything but secure our boarders or protect our nation.
More like the cabinate postion most designed with Kensian economics in mind – a one stop ‘stimulus package’ for those who have a job there.
Thank you Roger for your kind thoughts, and thank you to all those who have contributed to the legal defense fund Gov Brewer has put up to pay to defend Arizona’s right to exist when fighting our own federal governments assault.
Keep sending those nickles and dimes – we’ll need it to give Obama a proper ‘&^% kicking’ as he put it not that long ago. We dont serve the crown here in the desert.
I met Barry Goldwater once as a very young man. I believe he would approve of our current legislatures determined fight against Californication when it comes to the invasion we are pushing back.
You forgot the most important part of your missive:
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You Folks may think that I am boring, but I will repeat here my main point:
whatever this administration does is NOT decided by political reasons but by the “reasons” of subversion against America.
Accidentally, it may happen that the two strategies (political and subversive) converge, but the decisive element is always:
HOW MUCH CHAOS CAN BE CREATED ? This is the strategic element of any subversive plan.
An open border (open to drug cartels and muslim terrorists) is an America without national defense, and that’s why this administration keeps it open.
Certainly, they are hunting for Latinos’s votes too. But that’s a low priority for those who truly and thoroughly hate America.
Whatever this administration does is aimed at increasing the level of chaos, disorder, violence, division.
It’s class warfare 101, Folks.
Can someone please provide the benefit(s) our country has received in allowing 20 million illegal aliens with little-no education in our borders?
Not to mention their abuse, amongst many, of our 14th Amendment, creating yet ANOTHER gimmme gimme gubmint cheese offspring?
Entitlements, reparations – it’s got to end.
Paul_unalaska Well, just think of how happy the Government is to fund all the births of illegal alien lawbreakers.One every year seems to be the norm, with everything paid for.Oh! But, we need to spread the wealth, as the former White House tsar, comrade Van Jones, has repeatedly told some gatherings. I take his words, to mean that US citizens should pay for our own children to be born, while our tax dollars, pay for the illegals babies. Something is very wrong in this country, and its getting worse every day. The intent is to make sure the illegals, are so grateful to the Pols who pay for all their needs, that they will vote for their benefactors, and certain groups, who have no qualms about signing up illegal voters, will make sure they do. It is our elected officials, who opened OUR doors and OUR pocketbooks to them. Tell all the Politicians, to get their hands out of our pockets,and vote the culprits out in the coming elections. We need to oust the people, who are ruining this great country and pushing it toward Socialism. They are out for the votes, anyway they can obtain them, with no regard of how they are hurting the US citizen. The pols, have their own agendas, which is filling their own pockets, with lobbyist money. Americans are tired of being used and of the representation, that has been sorely lacking for too many years,in the Halls Of Congress and the White House. We have a chance to dump them in November! Please vote ! Our country’s future depends on it.
But stopping Mexican rotten drivers and asking if they’re here legally when giving them a ticket is racist– outlaw traffic enforcement, being a driving hazard to everyone else might reveal they’re illegal and must be protected! (Idiotic, no? Well, not to liberals!)
Folks the solution is simple (but probably not easy) once you actually acknowledge the problem.
First – the problem is NOT the border. Our border is no more porous than most – and an air tight fence would be almost impossible and would be cost prohibitive. The problem folks – is the incredible set of reasons we give people to enter this country illegally. The rewards for entering this country GREATLY overwhelm the potential risks. So… the answer is not to secure the border, forcibly deport people or even to increase the risks associated with attempting to violate our border – the answer is to stop the rewards for successfully entering the country illegally. Just a few simple zero cost policy changes would end this problem now. The flow of illegal immigrants would end, most existing illegal immigrants would self deport. The interesting part is we don’t need any draconian measures. We could accomplish these measures by simply mirroring Mexican immigration law.
1. We must end the practice of allowing illegal aliens to apply for legal residency status. Currently, if you enter the country illegally – you have just moved to the front of the line for legal status. This must stop. Our policy must be that being in the country illegally is a permanent disqualification for applying for any type of legal status – no wavers, no exceptions. Illegal aliens who wish some type of legal or citizen status must apply for it in their country of origin. It is our policy of giving priority to people who are already here that is the principal cause of the problems we are now facing. We CAUSED this. We (by our policy) TELL people to not apply for entry in their home country. It is not the most effective or logical way to become an American. We effectively TELL people that the 1st step in the citizenship application process is to swim the Rio Grande! A simple reversal of this policy would be a 75% solution of the illegal immigration problem over night.
2. We must end the “anchor baby” policy. Children born of illegal alien mothers should inherent their mother’s citizenship status. (This, by the way is Mexico’s policy)
3. We must enforce existing I-9 regulations. Knowingly hire an illegal alien – go to jail.
4. We must require legal status for ALL government benefits – student loans, food stamps etc.
These 4 simple steps ALL mirror Mexican policy and would reduce illegal immigration to a manageable trickle overnight. I wish we had the political will to implement them.
When you are talking about what we should be doing to protect our borders, of course it is hard to understand the irrational position of the Democrats and Bureaucrats. All we are seeing is an attempt, by the Democrats and Bureaucrats, to document all of the undocumented Democrats and future Bureaucrats in time for the next election. To the “ends justify the means” crowd, what looks irrational to you and I makes all the sense in the world. Until November, when we try to throw these useful idiots out, we will remain addlepated.
I have a solution. Annex Mexico. If we are going to be supporting the poor and the criminals from Mexico we should also be benefiting from their natural resources, and the industrial output located there. Imagine the shock to all of the businesses that left our country to set up shop in Mexico for tax and labor as well as pollution law advantages. We would no longer have illegal immigration, we could then require them to learn English. Mexico’s Southern border would be much easier to close to drug traffic than the border with the United States. Sounds like a win win situation for America. It sure seems like a lot of them would welcome the chance to be citizens of the United States with out the need to pay smugglers to bring them in. This could even be a peaceful take over as the only people not likely to be in favor of it would be the drug cartels and the people benefiting from the corruption in their government.
It wouldn’t be the first time, or even the second, more like the fourth or fifth.
1836- Mexico refuses to accept Texas’ declaration of independence, goes to war against the new Republic of Texas, nearly ends up at war with the united States as a result.
1846-48- Mexico refuses to recognize the border established by its losing against Texas in 1836-37, resulting in Mexico declaring war on the United States officially. It ends with U.S. forces taking Mexico City (the line “From the Halls of Montezuma” in the Marine Corps Hymn refers to the Marines storming, and taking, the Chapultepec Palace), and a peace treaty in which Mexico agrees to… abide by the 1837 border. U.S. forces pack up and go home.
1860-67- Mexico, under the French puppet Emperor Maximilian, tries to play both ends against the middle in the American Civil War, covertly supporting the Confederacy while trying to stir up trouble in California. It finally ends with Maximilian’s death- sort of.
1870s-1890s- following the death of Benito Juarez’, a succession of Mexican “strongmen” repeatedly try to play fast and loose with the border, mainly to try to stir up “patriotic fervor” to keep their people from noticing that Mexico is no more democratic than it was under the pre-Juarez’ despots. By the time of Porfirio Diaz (1897-1911), “banditry” across the border has become almost the only profit-making industry in the country- with the tacit’ approval of the government.
1916- Following the raid on Columbus, NM, by Mexican forces (Villistas or Huerta’s Colorados masquerading as same, take your pick), Gen. Pershing leads the Punitive Expedition into northern Mexico. It is both inconclusive and noted for a total lack of cooperation from the Mexican government, which is odd considering its official objective was apprehending Doroteo Arango aka “Pancho Villa”, who was supposedly the central government’s chief problem at the time. (He was finally shot dead in 1922.)
1917- The Zimmermann Telegram from the German government proposes that Mexico come into World War One on the Central Powers’ side, in return for which Germany will help Mexico take the “stolen territories” back. The Mexican government seriously considers the offer. However, when the Royal Navy’s Room 40 deciphers the message (sent to Mexico over American telegraph lines, no less) and presents it to the U.S. government, the Germans are stupid enough to actually admit that it was a real, certified “offer”. The United States declares war on Germany and her allies, the AEF departs for France, and Mexico narrowly avoids being invaded by the United States again- sentiment in the U.S. is that if we take Mexico City this time, we shouldn’t give it back.
1939-45- in spite of all of the above, Mexico remains “neutral” throughout World War Two.
Since then, Mexico has been extremely friendly with Castro in Cuba and, more recently, Chavez’ in Venezuela.
Anybody see a pattern here?
If Mexico is an “ally” of the United States, it’s mainly in the sense of “with a ‘friend’ like this, you’ll never need an enemy”.
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We could add a fifth and a sixth section. Provide false documentation or identification to an illegal alien go to prison. Use that left over stimulus money to provide a bounty on illegal aliens, 25 dollars a head should do it. With immigration so far behind in enforcement a lock up styled after one of Sheriff Joe’s lock ups should keep the cost down. It would be nice if the whole family served a year in the lock up prior to being deported as well. Last I heard there were 35 million unemployed in this country and a lot of them have no HOPE of a CHANGE in their status and their benefits are running out. It might just be that when faced with no hand outs a lot of these jobs would be filled by our own unemployed.
I couldn’t agree more. It’s all about this insane desire to be politically correct and never offend anyone.
Coincidentally, I posted a blog entry yesterday on the very subject of Arizona’s law.
http://www.nopchere.com
The two pillars of political correctness are willful ignorance and a steadfast refusal to face the truth. — George MacDonald Fraser
For Brett @ 10:
Just a minor point, from a Latin teacher (and scratch one of us, you’ll find a pedant):
the plural of casus belli (“pretext for war,” “reason for war”) is also casus belli (“reasons for war”), because casus is a 4th declension noun, with a nominative plural in -us (it’s a long u in the plural, but I can’t type long marks here). It’s therefore different from the commoner -us nouns (like alumnus, plural alumni) that belong to the 2nd declension.
You could also talk about casus bellorum (“the reasons for wars”).
so?
I was just trying to point out (politely and helpfully, I hope) what the correct Latin form is.
People who use Latin forms, like casus belli, probably would care enough to use it correctly.
I had some info. that might help the gentleman who was talking about “reasons for war,” and I offered it.
That’s all.
Bravo. Someone still teaching a subject not yet butchered by the likes of the Stalinist hack Howard Zinn.
I really appreciate this comment!
Sad to say, some have indeed used Classics to achieve the kind of aims favored by Stalinist hacks like Howard Zinn (see the wonderful book, “Who Killed Homer?” by Victor Davis Hanson and John Heath). There’s plenty of race, class, gendering going on.
But if, like me, you have only the modest ambition to teach students how to read the Latin language and understand it for themselves, then you’re engaged in a kind of skills-transmission (not unlike what a music teacher does, when passing on the knowledge of how to play an instrument), and you’re not aspiring to mess with their world view. They should be on their own, for that.
I, for one, appreciate the correction.
Thanks, Brett.
Vivat lingua Latina!!
I am feeling more and more like my common sense is falling apart, thanks for the good read. I will try to remember some of this while using the Income Tax Calculator In April
There’s a great quote from Benjamin Franklin.
Those who would give up Essential Liberty to purchase a little Temporary Safety, deserve neither Liberty nor Safety.
Roger looks down his nose at the great unwashed who dare protest a law that creates a second class of citizenship. There is freedom and liberty for those like Roger whose gene lines are of one descent and another for citizens of hispanic descent.
In theory, Kimball’s belief that he is put upon to identify himself numerous times during the average day passes some sort of muster, but at no point is he in danger of being detained if he fails to show identification and if such an incident happened to someone of his stature while driving up Park Avenue. Well, I’m sure we’d all hear about it here.
The point that you and a lot of the left seem to not comprehend is this; The law does NOT create a second class of citizen, because the illegal aliens are NOT citizens, at least of this country. And THAT is the problem.
It’s not about race. I would (and the majority of the people on the right side of this issue) be just as against an illegal alien from Norway or France or Ireland as I am about illegal aliens from Mexico and Guatamala and Venezuela.
It’s not about poor people. I would (and the majority of the people on the right side of this issue) be just as against some multi-millionaire coming to this country illegally ahead of the people who have spent years doing what they’re supposed to do, filling out the paperwork, learning civics and US history, taking exams, and PLEDGING ALLEGIANCE to this country over the wastelands they came from.
It’s about doing what is right, following the law, and making this country MORE secure, not less to benefit the people breaking the law over those of us that obey the laws.
The Race Card – the last refuge of a leftie with a hidden agenda. Americans don’t have to suck anything up and deal with it. That’s where you and the rest of your ilk have managed to flip everything on its head. WE WRITE THE RULES. WE GET TO DECIDE. By giving ILLEGAL ALIENS THE RIGHT OF FIRST REFUSAL THEY HAVE MADE U.S. CITIZENS INTO SECOND CLASS CITIZENS. Did it even occur to you that that might be the primary objection to the invasion? It’s bad enough that laws have no consequences but having arrived in a stealthy and deceitful fashion they now order US around? Get real bro. Where else does that occur in the real world? LET THE ILLEGALS SUCK IT UP AND DEAL WITH IT. We belong. They don’t. And playing the race card nowadays is a big yawn. Yeah – we’re all racists. Ho hum. Get another gag line.
Lefty, you missed the point of the article ENTIRELY. Though your point is entirely based upon emotional nonsense.
Imagine getting plowed in your car by a drunk driver. Lo and behold the driver of the other vehicle is an illegal. No Dl, insurance, title, nada.. The bills on you. As well as your insurance premiums being raised. Oh, the illegal will be put on ‘probation’. An illegal alien on probation..? Yep, that’ll show em..
O.k., how about discovering an illegal has taken your identity via Social Security card. Your credit, ability to obtain further credit, a home mortgage, car loan etc., is compromised.
You need a first responder to your home for a member of your family is having chest pains. You’ll have to wait a bit on the 911 call. The dispatchers are busy speaking on a 3-way call with their Spanish- speaking only caller and an interpreter in another city. I hope you’re medically savvy.
You’re in line at the grocery store and behind a Hispanic woman with her handful of children. She’s taking longer with the checkout person because the customer doesn’t speak English and isn’t sure how much of her food stamps to give the cashier. Same situation at the bank. The convenience store. The DMV..
The school your children attend boast being known statewide for the students hail from military families. Though the school is located off base and the inner-city schools and their dudley-do-nothing parents want a piece of that pie. Within a year the school’s impressive status is junked. Gangs are prevalent everywhere. Grafitti, fights and teen pregnancy are the norm (see Vandenberg High School).
How about your school’s budget can no longer afford certain sports or all sports all together to be available. Theater, art, chess etc., may be 86′d as well. Though ESL teachers and their materials will ALWAYS have precedence. On and on..
Lastly, Mr. Kimball needn’t live in fear of ‘being detained’ for he’s a law abiding, self sufficient, productive member of society. Not some 3rd Worlder dependent on buffoons such as yourself to push moronic ideologies that do nothing but deepen our debt, destroy our Republic and react to counterproductive emotional dogma.
Lefty, what’s ‘temporary’ about NEEDING to enforce our borders and welcome only productive immigrants? That’s long term success. Apparently you missed Econ and only attended humanities, sociology type courses.
You can lead a horse to to water..
Well , to paraphrase a gay saying back in the day…
WE’RE HERE…YOU’RE QUEER (ABOUT IT)… GET OVER IT!!
Nothing is going to get done about our peeps taking over your farms,ranches and Mcdonald jobs. You really don’t want those cr*p jobs anyway…
Bottom line: it’s all about the Hispanic vote. If that wasn’t the case, then why are Obama, Holder, Napolitano, MSNBC and La Raza not attacking Rhode Island and Rhode Island’s Governor who passed a similar immigration law in 2008?
Governor Carcieri of Rhode Island said they have not had one (1) incident of racially-based or racially-driven violation against any illegal alien or undocumented worker since the effective start date of their immigration law.
The double standard and phoniness applied to Arizona and the Arizona Governor are striking, and the voters will remember this in November 2010 and November 2012.
“Governor Carcieri of Rhode Island said they have not had one (1) incident of racially-based or racially-driven violation against any illegal alien or undocumented worker since the effective start date of their immigration law.”
Remind me: how long is the border between Rhode Island and Mexico or indeed Rhode Island and ANY foreign country? Just how could Rhode Island possibly face the sorts of illegal alien issues that Arizona encounters? Unless there are shiploads of illegals landing on the Rhode Island coastline, I’m at a loss to see how Rhode Island could conceivably have a big problem with illegal aliens.
What is so hard about the word illegal. We the US welcomes legal immaigration with open arms It is the illegal immigration that is the problem. Can we deport 10, 12, or 20 Million ( take your pick at the #) If we really wanted to we could. But should we no. But before we gave any form of amensty we need to secure the boarders Yes boarders NORTH SOUTH EAST WEST It is nothing to o with the color of the skin. If it was Washington state, North Dakota or Vermount will the pro immigration be yelling racism.
Failing to protect American citizens from foreign invasion and aiding and abetting such invasion ( law suits, inaction, et al.) and at the same time not prosecuting “sanctuary cities” for violating federal immigration law, does this not constitute a treasonable offence?
Who has the guts to file a action against these traitors?
I spent the last 10 of my 24 years in the USAF overseas in Spain (3) and Turkey (7). My family and I made two month-long European trips via Eurail. We also went to Syria twice. I went on three visits to Samara (Camapa), Russia.
Except for border crossings and passport control, I was never stopped on the street in any of the countries I visited and asked for my identification.
Except for ‘legal’ stops/inquiry by law eforcement, I have NEVER EVER been stopped on any street in any city in any state I’ve been in here in the United States.
I’m not afraid of being stopped and questioned about my citizenship status. I ALWAYS carry at least two forms of identification with me—a Texas driver’s license and my retired military I.D. card.
I’m PROUD to be an American….please stop me so I can show all how proud I am to be an American!!!
Only ILLEGAL TRESPASSERS are ‘afraid’ of being questioned about their citizenship status!!!
Since Google is pro-Obama, they’ve removed the Rhode Island immigration law from the top of the results list, but if you scroll down, you will see an entry titled EXECUTIVE ORDER. It’s a .pdf file, which opens if you click on the Quick View link. Here you’ll see Rhode Island’s immigration law which mirrors the federal law, just like Arizona’s new immigration law.
No lawsuits against Rhode Island from Obama and Holder, and no demonstrators or boycotts from California and Texas. Hmmmmmm….I told you so. This divertion and distraction with Arizona is all about courting the Hispanic vote and trying to fool the independents by claiming falsely that the Arizona law is racist.
Let me tell you — Holder and Obama are the racist ones. They are the ones who are trying to make this a race card issue, instead of an illegal immigration and law enforcement issue. They are DIVIDING, rather than uniting America. Don’t be fooled by these two elitist, arrogant, trouble-making ideologues.
People who live by principles will not be fooled by Obama, but if you like him and support him just because he is black or a minority, then you are the real fool. I’m a minority, and I will never vote for someone just because of his race. This guy is the worst president ever, and he has 2 1/2 years left to fully transform and destroy this great country of ours. Don’t be a fool no longer. Wake up, America. Stop this madness.
Strange that Obama would pick an election year to highlight to the 60-70% of the population who agree with the Arizona law his negligence in performing the duties with which he has been charged. As with the KSM trial, healthcare, and just about everything else it has touched, this administration seems to be in a competition with itself to see how quickly it can enter into lame duck territory. As for the argument that illegals do jobs that Americans won’t do, that’s only because liberal entitlements have created an environment where it is actually the intelligent choice to sit on your couch and do nothing rather than actually work. Cut these layabouts off and we’ll see what they will and will not do.
Also, don’t forget that a lot of the good American-born kids who would be ideal employees are overseas fighting in wars with uncertain ends and endgame. I think a lot of the laxity in in enforcing immigration laws from year 2000 forward stem from the need to “draft” an adequate number of military personnel with a bleaker hypersaturated entry-level jobs environment.
Quietly support drawdowns in Afghanistan (though I think we should maintain a Germany/South Korea-like presence in Iraq), if only for the fact that it will bring home a lot of veterans looking for work. Operation Wetback (1954) and the end of the Korean War were not coincidently only a year apart.
888,
Great comment. Thank you for sharing.
Anti-Latino inflamatory statements by the GOP in Arizona, Nevada, New Mexico, Texas and California continue to drain votes away from that party. I respect those that take a stand, regardless of consequences, but I do not think the right wing is going about this the right way. The Democrats are going to benefit. It is a shame that the right wing has embraced this attitude toward “those deemed different”. I believe it is an attitude they will regret, in the longer term. Good Luck to them !!
The Dems and the Libs are going to find they will not benefit in the least come November when the majority of the country turns against them and their favorite basket cases turn against them because they can no longer provide the goodies they promised.
Who are those deemed different? I was born and raised in one of the states you mention and, like you, I am an old guy. Who are these inflammatory bigots you spoke of and where did you hear about Anti-Latino inflammatory statements being exclusively a GOP proclivity?
seem to me you didn’t say a word before president Obamma got into office? and don’t say it just started. this has been going on for decades why don’t you finish the wall on your southern border at least that stops them from walking on in and a wall might keep bullets out too. forgot you mentally inferior sorry
Lets be real here…. Americans are being told we must adhere to the law, when it comes to enforcing our immigration laws so that we do not commit profiling or discrimination. Yet when we want laws enforced to secure our borders we are told to demand such is racist. We have been told it is impossible to enforce the law & secure the border. Yet our government has no problem enforcing every other law. We are told the border is more secure than ever before, and this ‘might’ be true. However, telling me you are doing 30% of the total job & I should accept that as success, is asinine in the extreme. DHS admits in a 2009 report they capture only 30% of the illegal traffic going through our legal port of entry checkpoints. They cannot keep up because Agents are pressured to pass as many vehicles through as is physically possible & in doing so our people are overlooking many illegal entries. If we need more checkpoint gates & Agents, then hire them & build them. But do not force more through while sacrificing actual inspections.
This issue has only recently been revealed as an effort by some on both the left & the right, to pacify their agenda. Their agenda is providing the slave labor for many industries on one side while providing future voters for the other. (Obviously some assume Latinos are stupid & will only vote as a group for just one party since they are too stupid to question ALL policy issues prior to voting, not just one issue.)
No matter what you have been told, the southern border is NOT secure. There is little fencing so no one can say it does not work since its not there. With no fence one cannot condemn fencing as ineffective. Only 34 miles of the originally approved double layered fencing was ever constructed. The rest is chicken wire & well spaced vehicle barriers.
Its not just the initial crime of illegal entry that’s the problem. Its all the additional crimes to stay here, work here, obtain social services here, obtain illegal drivers licenses, obtain forged documents of all sorts. These are all serious crimes added onto the original small crime. Most criminals start out petty & then graduate onto significantly more serious crimes. Identity theft in America is our fastest growing crime & the vast majority of those crimes are directly related to, illegal aliens!
No matter how this turns out, one day in the future, whoever are Americans then, will rue the day they left the entire border & immigration issue get so far out of control. But then, those people will belong to the new government that tells them all what to do & believe!
Poor Citizen, quick geography lesson and retort to your:
CA, AZ, NM and TX border Mexico and their southern neighbors.
Which nationality/location DRAINS the most from the U.S. in regards to: Welfare, food stamps, public education, Section 8 Housing, gang prevention, ELL teachers & employees, juvenile detention facilities, gang task force, skipping costly court dates/ broken probation requirements, federal dollars to a myriad of Caucuses, rights groups (Jr High School- adult), open borders advocacy groups, unpaid hospital/ emergency room bills, tens of thousands of police officers having to babysit Jr. High and High Schools nationwide to combat these teen gang twerps, ad infinitum..?
Next, apply the above to Canada which borders ELEVEN states. Do the illegal Canucks leave a BLIGHT as disgraceful as illegals to our South?
I’m going to go with the South team on this one. I know, I know. I’m a bigot, racist and bed wetter…
‘Anti-Latino’? You’re not too bright. I’m anti-illegal. The vast majority of the country responded in the same manner 2 times prior when ‘reform = amnesty’ came about.
Just because you CHOOSE to wear p oop colored glasses doesn’t mean we all need to.
Dollars to donuts you’d feel it’s ‘Profiling’ when investigating suspicious 20-40 year old single, Middle Eastern men with radical ideologies, beliefs supporting jihad.
Put your head back in the sand and again Americans with the stones will do the work you’re obviously scared, too chicken s hit to tackle.
PC = Fear of discussion/facts.
Anti-Latino is NOT an issue for the right. Most, that means the incredible majority, could care less about ethnicity, race, color, origin, religion, gender, or any other divisive category one can conjure up.
The issue is, the law. The issue is, national security. It is hypocritical of other nations, especially Mexico w/ its draconian immigration laws & brutal enforcement policies, to attack ours as though America has been unfair. Protesters for immigration reforms in America, get their say at their protests. Just watch TV to see them. There are no such protests in Mexico where its against the law & that law is enforced, to protest against government immigration policies or many other policies for that matter!
Democrats ‘might’ win on this. But, for the next two elections, until illegal voters are finally legalized by amnesty, those who sold us out will feel the wrath of an electorate who knows who destroyed the America so many used to come here to enjoy & thrive in. By then, that America will be gone & so too will be the future of freedom around the world.
However, Democrats should not count their chickens just yet as many Obama policies can be overturned once Democrats lose their majorities in congress come November. Many already expect attack style actions by the lame ducks in congress and by the administration, & legal plans are being made already to overturn many of those despicable actions.
The author asks the question: Am I racist if I ask for ID after having stopped a driver for blowing a red light. He says no and then cites various reasons as to why not. I agree. You’re not a racist if you ask a suspected Mexican for ID. It’s not racist in any way to single out Mexicans for additional scrutiny! Here’s why: MEXICAN IS NOT A RACE!
Make all the arguments you want that the Arizona law is discriminatory, biased, unfair, xenophobic even. But racist? Absolutely NOT!
Given today’s political atmosphere, there’s a lot of definitions for racism and racist. But all definitions center around one common theme: race. Once again, Mexican is NOT a race.
I couldn’t agree more. In fact, I’ll go you one better. I personally don’t believe there is any such thing as “race” in the way it is normally used at all: “black” race, “white” race, “hispanic” race, “Chinese” race. Morally, we are all just human beings, regardless of which country or culture gave us or our ancestors birth.
I don’t mean this just as a political statement either. Think back to your high school biology. Remember when they told you about how scientists classified all living things into categories, like phylum, order, species, etc.? “Race” was NOT one of those categories! “Race” is just a sociological/political term that someone concocted. It has no precise meaning in any scientific sense. If that sounds wrong to you, I challenge you to make a list of all of the “races” in the world and to specify who belongs to each of these races. Is there really a “white” race? If so, what people belong to it? Do the British? Even the people from India who settled there before and India got its independence? Are the Irish or the Italians “white”? If so, why were they the subject of so much negative reaction when they arrived in America and why did this end? Are Jews “white”? Is there a Canadian race? Is there an American race? Who belongs to it? Who doesn’t? I could go on but I suspect I’ve made my point….
Consider the consequences: if there is no such thing as race then there can’t be any such thing as racism. That means that if you object to a law – or the failure to enforce that law – no one can accuse you of racism BECAUSE THERE IS NO SUCH THING! If “race” doesn’t exist, “racism” can’t exist either!
As long as you sincerely believe as I do that “race” does not exist, you can make all sorts of remarks about immigration policy – or a great many other policies for that matter – in good conscience. If you don’t believe in the notion of “race” you can’t, by definition, be “racist”.
Republican candidate for congress and Harvard Physicist, Mike Stopa proposes that congress help the states enforce immigration law. The Social Security Administration should send ‘no-match’ letters to the state attorneys general.
Mike Stopa on Sean Hannity
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Umx8FFLQGRQ