Friday Night Follies
Being sick with a flu has the benefit of enforcing a slight break in routine in the shape of enough space to watch two videos. The first was Conspiracy, a reenactment of the wartime conference in Wannsee, Germany during which the Nazi leadership planned out the extermination of the Jews. The second was the Battle of Marjah an HBO documentary following a Marine company tasked with winning the hearts and minds of a Taliban stronghold in Afghanistan.
No two military organizations could be more unlike than the Nazi killing machine of 1942 and the US Marines of 2010. While the Nazis casually planned — and actually did kill thousands of civilians per day for nothing more than to satisfy a psychopathic obsession, Ben Anderson’s documentary follows the Marine assault into a Taliban base. The Taliban walk in the open, casually passing in front of the Marines, completely secure in the knowledge of their immunities under the rules of engagement. They take up positions, arm up, and get set under the full view of drones while every request to engage them is denied by lawyers hundreds of miles away.
The one sense in which these two videos are alike is that they depict a policy failure. Both record how immense organizations became sidetracked into pursuing in goals which had nothing to do with any rational objective.
By January, 1942 the last thing Nazi Germany needed to do was waste time, energy and manpower killing anything but the Soviet Army. The forces of the Reich, which had enjoyed a temporary local quantitative superiority at the outset of Barbarossa, was beginning to face the full force of a mobilized Soviet army. Nazi manpower in the theater would peak at about 3 million men. They would soon be facing double that number in Soviets. Worse, America had joined the war.
Yet here were Nazi bigwigs planning to expend vast amounts of resources to exterminate people who were in many cases, vital to their war effort. Many of those marked for death did not even know they were “Jews” as classified under the secret code. They were technicians, skilled workers and scientists in Germany industry which no rational leader would doom. However that did not dissuade the the Nazis from planning the destruction of some of their most productive citizens. Wannsee represented not only a modern example of historical evil but also an instance of policy insanity; of actions undertaken not for the stated, but for the unstated reasons.
The Battle of Marjah, which was part of Operation Moshtarak, aimed to displace the Taliban and fill its place with a rejuvenated Afghan state, is tragic in a different way. It is impossible to watch the HBO video without being absolutely impressed by the professionalism, restraint and dedication to duty of the men of Bravo Company, 1st Battalion, 6th Marines. It is similarly impossible not think they are on defective mission.
Video maker Ben Anderson, who spent 2 months embedded with the unit, captures actual events in single continuous takes. The viewer is is almost there himself, excepting the absence of danger and discomfort. What is captured on camera are troops who maneuver intelligently, fight skillfully and are almost unbelievably brave. It is possible that never before in the history of the world has there been such a highly controlled, disciplined and able fighting force.
Anderson speaks only once on video to a camera subject — in frank admiration of an engineer who rushes a suspected IED with a demolition charge, aware he is under the muzzles of perhaps a dozen Taliban guns who the Marines cannot engage for fear of “collateral damage”. The engineer blows it up under their noses and clambers back to cover. Anderson simply asks him how he can do this. What kind of job is it that makes you do these things not the one time that would make a hero of any man, but regularly, day after day?
At some point you realize from the faces of the population that they are in spite of themselves, falling under the spell of a kind of hero worship of the Marines. Here are men who are beating the flower of Pashtun warriordom with all but their pinkies tied behind their backs. A Marine captain senses this, “we are winning a big moral victory”. But the population know that these heroes — heroes they are — are still going to lose.
One reason is the Afghan Army, whose establishment in Marjah, the viewer is horrified to learn, is the whole purpose of this strange military evolution. The Afghan Army stumbles around making fools of themselves, looking all the worse by contrast to the Marines before the entire population. They are as far below the level of skill of the Taliban as the Taliban are beneath the Marines. If the purpose of Operation Moshtarak was to instil in villagers respect for an “Afghan government in a box” ready to take over from the Taliban once the Marines left, the invidious comparison between these ill matched teachers and students seems to achieve the opposite result.
And so it proved. Ben Gilbert of the Global Post found the Marines still in Marjah six months later, with “the man who leases the Marines their compound [paying] off the Taliban” on the sly — resulting in the Marines indirectly funding the enemy. The offensive was never meant to succeed, at least by some quarters in Washington, except insofar as it gained votes. It didn’t have much support from the President to begin with, according to David Sanger, who recently wrote a book about the administration’s Afghan policy in the New York Times. President Obama, after campaigning on the central importance of Afghanistan, quickly changed his mind about ‘winning’ what he called “a war of necessity”. Suddenly it became optional.
It was just one brief exchange about Afghanistan with an aide late in 2009, but it suggests how President Obama’s thinking about what he once called “a war of necessity” began to radically change less than a year after he took up residency in the White House …
“I think he hated the idea from the beginning,” one of his advisers said of the surge. “He understood why we needed to try, to knock back the Taliban. But the military was ‘all in,’ as they say, and Obama wasn’t.”
The president’s doubts were cemented as the early efforts to take towns like Marja in Helmand Province took months longer than expected. To Mr. Obama and his aides, Marja proved that progress was possible — but not on the kind of timeline that Mr. Obama thought economically or politically affordable. …
By early 2011, Mr. Obama had seen enough. He told his staff to arrange a speedy, orderly exit from Afghanistan. This time there would be no announced national security meetings, no debates with the generals. Even Defense Secretary Robert M. Gates and Secretary of State Hillary Rodham Clinton were left out until the final six weeks.
The key decisions had essentially been made already when Gen. David H. Petraeus, in his last months as commander in Afghanistan, arrived in Washington with a set of options for the president that called for a slow withdrawal of surge troops. He wanted to keep as many troops as possible in Afghanistan through the next fighting season, with a steep drop to follow. Mr. Obama concluded that the Pentagon had not internalized that the goal was not to defeat the Taliban. He said he “believed that we had a more limited set of objectives that could be accomplished by bringing the military out at a faster clip,” an aide reported.
The Taliban saw facts that the Marines shut their eyes to: that the artificialities of the rules of engagement signified something else was going on. That the war was going to be decided politically, battlefield bravery and skill be damned. Rifles and explosive line charges would not affect the outcome of the campaign by one whit. For the war was not in Afghanistan, nor even Pakistan. Ground zero was Washington and in the MSM news. The battle of “hearts and minds” was not for Marjah but for hearts and minds of the American electorate.
In that sense the conference at Wannsee and the documentary of Battle of Marjah share a similarity, despite the vast differences in the two forces depicted. They are both stories of the tragedies created by political indirection. Hitler may have invaded the Soviet Union not for strategic advantage, but to fulfill some strange mystical aspiration. “As early as 1925, Hitler suggested in Mein Kampf that he would invade the Soviet Union” to achieve this fantasy.
Hitler imagined a colonial demodernization of the Soviet Union and Poland that would take tens of millions of lives. The Nazi leadership envisioned an eastern frontier to be depopulated and deindustrialized, and then remade as the agrarian domain of German masters. This vision had four parts. First, the Soviet state was to collapse after a lightning victory in summer 1941, just as the Polish state had in summer 1939, leaving the Germans with complete control over Poland, Belarus, Ukraine, western Russia, and the Caucasus. Second, a Hunger Plan would starve to death some thirty million inhabitants of these lands in winter 1941-1942, as food was diverted to Germany and western Europe. Third, the Jews of the Soviet Union who survived the starvation, along with Polish Jews and other Jews under German control, were to be eliminated from Europe in a Final Solution. Fourth, a Generalplan Ost foresaw the deportation, murder, enslavement, or assimilation of remaining populations, and the resettlement of eastern Europe by German colonists in the years after the victory.
From that point of view, Operation Babarossa was just a means to an end. Not even a strategical end, but some darkly religious one. The result was a monstrous tail wagging the geopolitical dog. In a smaller sense the campaign in Afghanistan may also have been fought for inverted reasons. It became useful a “war of necessity” simply because someone needed a talking point to contrast to the “war of choice” which was Iraq. The battles were useful as political statements to rival factions in Washington and in politics. Their significance on the ground was perhaps entirely incidental. In the end, Afghanistan proved a war of choice too, and as such disposable.
It seems strange but true that things are often undertaken for reasons other than those given. As the common European currency crumbles, it is instructive to reflect that it was never created for itself. As an act of economic policy it was lunacy. What it had to recommend it was political ambition. When the simple common market idea became transformed into the project to build a new European superstate, they needed a cement to glue everything together and the Euro was it.
Towards that goal a massive bureaucracy and the destructive currency were adopted, not because they brought any benefits by themselves, but because they advanced the expansion of Europe, the dream leading the EU legions into Portugal, Spain, Italy and Greece. Had they held out longer the Euro would have been Turkey’s currency.
Ultimately the most depressing thing about watching a movie about Wannsee in convalescence is knowing that the Wannsees of history are not over. Perhaps they never will be. Someday someone might produce a video about the origins of the Euro. The Wannabee Conference. Here folly reprises itself, this time fortunately, with a comedic cast and only farcical results. But that is for another day of flu; for another day of rain.
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Hope you feel better.
Somebody said that the really impressive thing about the US military is not what it can do but what it declines to do.
Hope you feel better, Wretchard.
It is said that history repeats itself, the first time as tragedy, the second time as farce. In this case, I think we are going to see tragedy aplified. For I have seen American victories be thrown away by democrats with political agendas before. I remember watching South Vietnam crumble in 1975, when the democrats in congress refused to allow President Ford to help with supplies or airpower, even though the US had specifically committed itself to do so. (South Vietnam might have ended up like South Korea, had things been different, but I digress). The result of the actions of the democrats were predicable: From South Vietnam, boat people fleeing for thier lives followed by conquest and dictatorship, for Cambodia, a horrorific massacre of about a third of the entire population, if I remember correctly.
And when Obama is reelected and withdraws US and NATO forces, expect the Taliban with their ISI allies from Pakistan to re-take Afghanistan quickly. Unlike US Marines, the Taliban can kill, maim, torture and terrorize with impunity, and everyone in Afghanistan knows this. Human rights for women will be a thing of the past, and life for the people of Afghanistan will resume being nasty, brutish and short under Taliban rule, a rule made more harsh by the fact the Taliban will be so very encouraged by their victory over the infidels.
Obama and the democrats, however, will not care. Abandoning Afghanistan will please the democrat base, will free up money for buying votes with welfare programs and will discredit the US military – all favored democrat goals. As for the fate of the people of Afghanistan, the democrats will not care. Just as they did not care about the victims of the Cambodian holocaust and the boat people of Vietnam, so they will not care here.
And so Islamic terrorists everywhere will be encouraged by their victory, and countries that might once have been allies will draw this lesson: The USA is a mostly harmless foe, and it is safe to oppose her. On the other hand, she is a worthless ally who will abondon you if led by democrats. Do not be surprised if Iran decides that nuclear terrorism is not such a bad idea against the “paper tiger” USA that could not defeat the Taliban.
The US Military is casualty shy. On both sides of the fighting. That never made sense to me. The whole point in having an enemy is to kill them. Anything else is foolish. Lincoln said the best thing to do with an enemy is make them a friend. Then he stated a war that killed more Americans then any other in history.
There is nothing that can be won in Afghanistan by the military. I have a Nephew that got back the first of the month. He swung by to borrow a car and we talked. He is Air Farce, an air traffic controller, so he wasn’t out in the mud dodging IED’s. He didn’t like ‘gani’s at all. I asked him if maybe it was because he was only exposed to the ones in Kubal but he said the rustics were even worse. It makes sense, sorta. Thousands of years of warfare are bound to have an effect. The smart ones have left leaving behind the bloody minded and stupid. That is a bad combination.
In the one example, racist barbarians with clear plans and murderous intent living in their own fantasy world; in the other, citizen soldiers with teufel hunden lineage, whose mission is undermined by their very own commander in chief, an empty suit whose sensibilities and world view are what captured the hearts of our coastal liberal elites. I laugh at the people who think things are working out all right in the end. After all, Obama has adopted Bush’s measures in the GWOT that cannot be named, and is assassinating terrorists right at left with Hellfires. Really? Why don’t you ask the Poles if they agree with that. Or, for that matter, the Aussies. This nation won’t have a stable, effective foreign policy again until the Left is permanently discredited.
“It is possible that never before in the history of the world has there been such a highly controlled, disciplined and able fighting force.”
And as we have said here before, the politicians and bureaucrats have the luxury to be inept and duplicitous because the fighting forces that protect them are so damn good. Socialist schemes may have used up all our Design Margin and then some, but there is still the design margin that results from our military being what it is.
The Euro was based not on European honesty and universal unanimity but rather on the ability of the U.S. Military to separate the disagreeing children on the playground and at the same time defend against external threats. Ultimately, the EU and its currency existed because the U.S. has shown it can own the skies and seas anywhere it chooses, and via that fact control what happens on the ground.
It is said that God invented whiskey to keep the Irish from ruling the world. That may or may not be true, but its clear that God invented the United States Military to keep anybody from ruling the world.
Happy Memorial Day, everybody.
A more subtle question might be why the Obama Regime and the Democrats in general are so averse to an actual military victory in either Iraq or Afghanistan.
Several forms of actual miltary-political REAL victory were actually possible in both theaters, but generally speaking the Democrats were against this, and Obama in particular.
There are always things that are said about certain aspects of the Left, such as they
1) hate the United States
2) hate the military in particular
3) hate themselves and the world they live in
I would suggest that there is a subtle aspect of (3) above that could be further examined. And that is that what they really hate is reality. Reality is actionable, and requires a certain amount of objective reasoning, thinking and analysis of cause and effect.
I submit that these intellectual actions are the things that the Left really hates, because once they actually start using logic and objective thinking, their fantasy world of rhetorical bombast starts to fall apart. And I submit that this is also the quality that the Nazis also abhorred. On one level, the Wehrmacht was efficient, well-trained and very methodical at the tactical level. But their guidance at the strategic level frequently (and at an accelerating rate as the war got worse for Germany) was more and more irrational, and void of logic, reason and objective thought. There was real madness and psychopathic behaviour behind the murder of millions of Jews and other political undesirables by Nazi Germany.
And thus the intellectual and political Left in the US and Europe cannot truly solve a complex problem of geopolitical dimensions because they cannot function at any level of continuous logic and objective reasoning. Everything they do, form supporting the “Arab Spring” to the hapless strategic nature of the Afghan campaign, reeks of the fantasies of adolescents found in a college bull session, who think they can will a new reality into place by expounding with their fellows long enough. With enough beer and pot, anything is possible.
It is the triumph of the sustained practice of illogic and irrationality, of ignoring any objective evidence that the world is anything other than what they wish it to be, and hatred of anyone that uses such a tool of logic and reason against them, because……. THAT’S RACIST!
The Nazis knew who they were at war with.
1. Jews
2. Jews
3. Jews
4. Reds
5. Democracies.
Who are the Democrats at war with?
Jews Men and the Armed Forces may be equal targets. The current military is functional. It lives on a legacy. The impact of Obama will be felt in years to come.
BFTP, Every important military leader in history has noted that it is the men fighting that matter, not the tools they use. Obama’s destruction of the military will put a lot of those men on the street were they will become the sand in Obama’s oyster. The pearl that produces will power America for another generation.
Mitt will jump start the economy. Drilling and deregulation will establish the stability needed to turn loose private enterprise. The increase in tax revenues will allow us to replace the tools the military needs with better ones.
DARPA has a whole toy box full of tools ready to be produced. FEL’s, F-47′s, Electro drive APC’s. The Left can’t see it but the best place for green technology is the battlefield.
6. David
We seem to have forgotten that military victories were achieved quickly and decisively in both Iraq and Afghanistan. The objective in Iraq was to overthrow Saddam Hussein. It was done. The objective in Afghanistan was to destroy Al Quaeda. That was largely done. The other objective was to demonstrate the grim consequences of messing with the U.S. That was done.
Staying in Iraq and Afghanistan after those victories was the problem. In my ignorant civilian opinion, it would have been better to leave them licking their wounds and not to try helping them build some democratic chimera.
So in essence in both movies one can catch a glimpse of a Triumph of the Shill?
Please add me to the hope you feel better-ers Mr. Fernandez.
Interesting concept, that WWII was Europe trying to colonize itself.
Was the original idea Napoleon’s?
Or is it something older?
Get well soon…the good folks in Florida may need your advice regarding how to deal with the G&D Zombies down in Miami:
http://www.wsvn.com/news/articles/local/21007585058418/new-details-emerge-in-causeway-police-involved-shooting/
And here I thought that product line from Hornady was a stupid marketing move….I hope the LEOs down south are stocking up.
Do hope you feel better soon. (Sorry to use caps, but underline and bold don’t work in the comments.)
This was a truly excellent, sensitive, insightful article.
The points that struck a deep chord in me ….
First, tribute to our wonderful armed services on this Memorial Day:
“What is captured on camera are troops who maneuver intelligently, fight skillfully and are almost UNBELIEVABLY BRAVE. It is possible that never before in the history of the world has there been such a highly controlled, disciplined and able fighting force.”
Then ….
“Both record how immense organizations became sidetracked into PURSUING IN GOALS WHICH HAD NOTHING TO DO WITH ANY NATIONAL OBJECTIVE.”
“The Taliban walk in the open, casually passing in front of the Marines, completely secure in the knowledge of their immunities under the rules of engagement. They take up positions, ARM UP, and get set under the full view of drones WHILE EVERY REQUEST TO ENGAGE THEM IS DENIED BY LAWYERS HUNDREDS OF MILES AWAY.” [Oh, the sheer insanity of it.]
“At some point you realize from the faces of the population that they are in spite of themselves, falling under the spell of a kind of HERO WORSHIP OF THE MARINES…. But the population know that these heroes — heroes they are — are still going to lose.”
“The Afghan Army stumbles around making fools of themselves, looking all the worse by contrast to the Marines before the entire population…. If the purpose of Operation Moshtarak was to INSTIL in villagers RESPECT for an “AFGHAN GOVERNMENT in a box” ready to take over from the Taliban once the Marines left, the invidious comparison between these ill matched teachers and students seems to achieve the OPPOSITE RESULT.”
“Ground zero was Washington and in the MSM NEWS. The BATTLE of “hearts and minds” was NOT FOR MARJAH but FOR HEARTS AND MINDS OF THE AMERICAN ELECTORATE.”
“The offensive was NEVER MEANT TO SUCCEED, at least by some quarters in Washington, EXCEPT INSOFAR AS IT GAINED VOTES.”
“It became useful a “WAR OF NECESSITY” simply because SOMEONE [?] needed a talking point to contrast to the “WAR OF CHOICE” which was Iraq. THE BATTLES WERE USEFUL AS POLITICAL STATEMENTS to rival factions in Washington and in politics. THEIR SIGNIFICANCE ON THE GROUND WAS PERHAPS ENTIRELY INCIDENTAL.”
I have nothing to add. This says it all.
Am holding myself back from using vile adjectives about this … “administration” — the worst our country has ever experienced — in all ways.
Get well soon.
In the mean time – stock up:
http://www.hornady.com/ammunition/zombiemax/
Feel better, Richard. I’ve put MARJAH on my to see list.
The US military can defeat any force in the world except the democratic party.
Since VJ Day, the most important terrain in any of America’s wars has been the six inches between the ears of the American voter. And the American voter is at the mercy of the democratic party.
9. stevesmith
6. David
I agree completely; the decision to hang around and do some ”nation building” was a gross mistake. In Iraq, there was a possibility of doing some good, and maybe still is, but not in Afghanistan.
The idea that a medieval, fragmented society—barely a ”society”, no way a ”nation”—could have a 2300-year way of life transformed into a democracy in a decade or so was just pure intellectual conceit. After all, they all want to live like us, don’t they? We just need to enlighten them.
Humbug … when Alexander encountered them they were just the way they are now.
Hope you get over the flu soon, W. Those of us in the Upper Half of the planet tend to forget that it is winter-time in the Lower Half. Oops! That statement was probably a politically incorrect demonstration of vile Geographism.
Talking about being politically incorrect — even Romney could get my vote if he announced that, upon his election, military lawyers making decisions on the application of rules of engagement would henceforth make those decisions from their new location on the front lines. That would be more efficient, since the lawyers would have a clearer view of the situation.
Maybe someday we could even see crack units of military lawyers being deployed ahead of the Marines, to serve notices on terrorists and such like. No need for those lawyers to be armed; after all, they would be protected by the majesty of the law and maybe even the European Court of Justice. Then bring back National Service for law school graduates and we would be on our way back to a civilized society. I wish I was joking.
It was not only Hitler who put vengeance against his enemies above warfighting. Stalin’s Red Army did likewise. During the initial retreat of 1941, highest priority was given to killing prisoners in jails about to be lost. Then in 1944 as the Red Army moved westward, there was a comprehensive round-up and deportation of several nationalities who were accused of collaboration with the German occupiers. Of course this mass evacuation of prisoners to to Siberia and Central Asia meant serious disruption of the military advance as railway lines and rolling stock were diverted. Human losses were horrific. The Crimean Tatars were entirely deported to Central Asia, approximately a third of their number dying in six months. Among the other groups given the genocidal resettlement treatment were the Chechens and Ingush, which left grudges still influencing Russian problems in our own time. (See Aleksandr Nekrich’s “The Punished Peoples”) Other individuals in newly-liberated areas were all treated as suspect until they had been vetted by SMERSh, again taking a massive commitment of manpower which could have served in fontline maneuver units. This is in addition to the several million Soviet troops taken prisoner by the Germans, and automaticly legally guilty of treason just by having been captured alive. It is likely that several million of the USSR’s 27 million dead were self-inflicted losses.
wretchard – Feel better as I am sure you shall.
For only the part of the American Electorate that ‘matters’ to these cretins.
…and misused so badly, wrongly and with such disdain with no sense of conscience for the actual sin being committed.
= arrested development.
David – Actually it could have been brilliant if you consider this:
To the East of Iraq and the West of Afghanistan lies the main source of disruption for that part of the world, Iran. Having even budding Democracies on it’s borders makes the natives restless. Really, really restless. Had adults remained in charge of the US we could have neutralized the worst threat to the world for the foreseeable future. But, no, we put the children back in charge. And do not mistake, they are psychopathic adolescents these “Democrats”.
At some point you realize from the faces of the population that they are in spite of themselves, falling under the spell of a kind of hero worship of the Marines. Here are men who are beating the flower of Pashtun warriordom with all but their pinkies tied behind their backs. A Marine captain senses this, “we are winning a big moral victory”. But the population know that these heroes — heroes they are — are still going to lose.
The folderol is all very well until we take casualties on that basis, even serious injuries, and we do. Perhaps less in Afghanistan than we suffered in Iraq in similar circumstances, but I do not think I personally could put up with it for a month, and I am saddened that either field troops or command apparently does so endlessly. Surely there is NO HOPE of the mission succeeding fully like this? As I’ve said, we can perhaps claim a win on points, and even leave with a better reputation, even among the Taliban, than the Soviets left with. Perhaps this will even pay off in twenty years, or two hundred. Lord above, I hope so.
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nmu @ 11: Was the original idea Napoleon’s?
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ostsiedlung
Get well soon, Wretchard.
To all of our veterans: thank you.
Beauty, strength, youth, are flowers but fading seen,
Duty, faith, love, are roots, and ever green.
11. no mo uro
“Interesting concept, that WWII was Europe trying to colonize itself.
Was the original idea Napoleon’s?”
Npoleon was fighting the coalised monarchies armies that were going to invade France and to retablish Monarchy, and to refurnish the french tresor, that, until about 1806, then he became megalomaniac about his power and success story, it’s where he lost his credit
Gordon…
You’re wrong: they’re 12,300 years apart in time.
If you go down their punch list of societal norms they are congruent with Neolithic norms.
Hence their truly ancient attitudes towards children and women.
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The idea that they are ONLY 23 centuries behind modernity is what is tripping every one up.
It is the height of folly that we ever attempted to educate their girls. Doing so has caused simply no end of bloodshed. Afghan tribes have absolutely no use for women that can read and write.
What they could use is men that can read and write. Astoundingly, they have been given a lower priority than the children.
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You got that right.
Only in the last few years has the ISAF begun to teach Afghan troopers to read and write. Whereas, NATO assistance has been made available for childhood education as far back as 2002.
This makes our enduring folly as insane as any in history.
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The Wan’s progression with the Afghan Campaign strongly reflects the postings at the Long War Journal during the same period.
I strongly suspect that the Administration lurks there.
It is also a stringer source for the New York Times.
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BTW, for one and all: the Afghans think of Americans as ‘Moon Men.’
This is not a reference to Apollo 11, et. al., but rather their view that we ‘beam in’ like Captain Kirk and Doctor McCoy. Death from above, one second; the dead to life in the next.
As for our cultural norms: they think we’re absolutely nuts! ( Particularly our super elevation of women — it’s just too strange. Anti-islamic, it is. )
b @ 24: This is not a reference to Apollo 11, et. al., but rather their view that we ‘beam in’ like Captain Kirk and Doctor McCoy. Death from above, one second; the dead to life in the next.
No doubt. But Kirk & company did more nation building amongst the stars than the US has in Afghanistan, prime directive or not. Think about that a little.
The one sense in which these two videos are alike is that they depict a policy failure.
Buddha, not OODA. Buddha, not OODA.
It didn’t have much support from the President to begin with, according to David Sanger,
So I told the President, “Let’s hire Japanese missile assassins to go fight the Taliban! They’re good at math…”
Someday someone might produce a video about the origins of the Euro.
Free-form seems to work well in love, peace, and economy. Or, to succeed at things- you’ve got to not have a plan.
Get well soon, Wretchard.
If you’re going to watch videos, you can’t possibly do better than this one:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e2_49KPj9jE&feature=player_embedded
I’ve watched it a dozen times, and the cheering at the end brings tears to my eyes every time.
The war against Islamic conquest was over the day Obama was elected President and from that moment on it was doomed to fail by decree and direction so that the Old Hippies could claim another Vietnam which they screamed and whined about for eight years while America was actually winning.
Now the liberals and such are happy, every American life lost was wasted by them every win was turned into a loss and the focus turned to destroying the America the liberals and such always hated. That was always the liberals war and their most hated enemy.
Saddam was hung, Obama fed to the fishes In my opinion that’s what was set out to accomplish. It’s done and we are too, time to leave Afghanistan and Iraq to it’s bloody fate.
Get well Richard.
Cherokee Warren gets hammered for her lies… Why are there New York Times reporters advising on foreign policy and which wars to fight?
Don’t tell me that paper is just a little bit biased- they have been perpetrating immense hoaxes at least since Fidel Castro was born a full-grown adult back in 1959.
The US military hasn’t been allowed to win a war since the Reds’ of the 30′s and their evil spawn children have taken control of the Democratic party and the intellictual enterprise of the US.
Until the tide of 30′s Redness receds, our military will be hamstrung by the leftest politicans and the media/academy complex that propagandizes and feeds it.
May we all thank our military for the amazing jobs they do.
“When you’re wounded and left on Afghanistan’s plains,
And the women come out to cut up what remains,
Jest roll to your rifle and blow out your brains
An’ go to your Gawd like a soldier.”
–Rudyard Kipling (plus ca change . . .)
Simple fact.
We, that is, the West, could have won in both Iraq and Afganistan.
We just would have to pay the price, in lives and money, and been willing to kill those who really opposed us.
I once heard a Australian Colonel give a talk on the matter. He’s opinon on the matter boiled down to “If a man turns up on your doorstep at 3 in the morning with a AK47, and tells you that you’re on his side, OR ELSE, what are you going to do?”
We could stop this type of action. But, the way to do that involves tracking and killing those who do.
And, for the record, he stated that reason we were winning for a while? We found the leaders of our opposition, and killed them, till people stopped being in opposition.