CAIR Strikes Out
It’s always a happy day when would-be censors fail to silence voices they don’t agree with, and it’s particularly satisfying when the losers are a well-known crowd of politically correct anti-1st Amendment vigilantes. The losers in this case are the hyperactive folks over at CAIR, the Council on American-Islamic Relations, and their intended victim is “Reza Kahlili,” the former member of the Iranian Revolutionary Guards Corps who for some years worked inside that murderous organization on behalf of the Central Intelligence Agency. He’s well known to PJ Media readers, having posted here on many occasions, and his book, A Time to Betray, is a must-read for anyone who wants to get an accurate picture of life inside the Islamic Republic’s praetorian guards.
Reza is inevitably controversial, as you would expect. Some even doubt that he was really a CIA agent inside the IRGC (I was able to get confirmation of his bona fides, as was David Ignatius of the Washington Post), and CAIR got very annoyed with him, above all when he wrote that American mosques are being used to recruit and organize terrorists, in preparation for potential attacks inside the United States. And they were openly furious when he described his conversion from Islam to Christianity, saying that the “unimaginable” Islamic practices he witnessed in Iran “misrepresented Islam,” leading him to search for a faith that better presented his vision of the Almighty.
Worse yet, from CAIR’s standpoint, was that Reza was employed by the American government to lecture its intelligence specialists on Iran at the Joint Counterintelligence Training Academy in Maryland. CAIR demanded he be fired. The head of CAIR wrote directly to Secretary of Defense Leon Panetta to make the request, as reported in a press release from the organization.
It didn’t work.
It is a disgrace and a shame that dangerous anti-American organizations like CAIR, NIAC, PAIA…. are allowed to operate in the US.
Amen to that, winston. At the risk of being accused of “McCarthyism” we should root out the terrorist supporting organizations like CAIR and at the very least deport their traitorous backsides to Iran. Let Ahmednutjob deal w them.
Considering that Joe McCarthy was proven correct in his assertion that Washington was riddled with Communists, one should wear an accusation of `McCarthyism` as a badge of honour. In fact we need another McCarthy now to rid Washington of this latest infestation. Guess we`ll have to settle for Romney…
No, Winston, it isn’t. They are “allowed” to operate because of those pesky early amendments. Who would you like to decide who is “allowed” to operate in the US? Eric Holder?
Whittaker,
You make a good point except Holder is allowing contract killers (the leadership of the New Black Panthers) to operate in the US with impunity. When organized groups, or individuals for that matter, engage in such violent calls attacking the freedoms of Americans, it would be nice to have a Justice Department that would take action against them. Calls to curtail free speech are just as disturbing and in need of confrontation.
I think the point is that we don’t want religious indoctrination in secular classrooms.
I do not think the position is Religion in secular classrooms. Let us look at the bigger picture. We are speaking about the survival of a Nation. We are speaking about the survival of 330 million free people who live in a Free Republic with a Constitution and written laws protecting those people and their Liberty and Freedom to live as they wish as long as they agree to Preserve, Protect and Defend that Republic and its Constitution against all enemies both Foreign and Domestic.
This is the issue; Can we allow anyone, foreign or domestic, to attempt to destroy that Nation which was given to us by our Forefathers as a sacred trust?
Our Oath to this Nation says NO! We should not allow anyone who expresses the desire to change or destroy this Nation to remain within our borders. They are sworn traitors to our very survival and they should be deported or prosecuted as enemies of the Nation. If they speak it, then it is in their heart.
al, i was just saying that the Pentagon’s language reflects long-standing policy, and there are many times when that policy should please you. needless to say defense of the Constitution is central to our survival. I’ve taken that oath more than once.
You forgot one organization ISNA the “Islamic Society of North America” one of the biggest and baddest boogey boys who funnel their money to Hamas and Hezbollah. They too along with C.A.I.R. were listed as unendicted coconspirators in the Homeland Foundation Trial in Texas.
mary
Aparently CAIR is now NIAC’s big brother in the US. They colaborate together to protect the Islamist interest, the Islamists in the US and the Islamist regimes in Iran and elsewhere. CAIR is an arm of the MB and NIAC an Arm of the mullahs in Iran. In 1970s the mullahs in Iran and MB in Egypt collaborated until the 1st modern Sharia based gov came topower. Shariati, Beheshti and other Islamist “intellectuals” who originally proposed Islamic Republic inearly 1970s were inspired by MB founder Hassan Al-bana, Seyyed Qutb and other MB leadersandits Islamist suremacist ideology.
CAIR itself does not care much about Islamic values, Rights, principles, or Human Rights issues. The Board members of CAIR as far as I know does not including other Islamic sects such as American Shia Muslims who are originally from Iran, Lebanon, Pakistan, and so on, so it is an organization run mostly by Sunni Muslims. CAIR has been very vocal on Palestinian Human Rights issues (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=omx1jsY-hCk) while it has been mute on Human Rights violations in other countries such as Iran, Bahrain, and Afghanistan where the victims have been mostly Shia Muslims. In case of Iran, the IRGC and its Basij Militia tortured and raped many prisoners at detention centers throughout the country and specifically at Iran’s infamous Kahrizak and Evin detention center where the prisoners’ only crime has been to take part in silent protests against the fraudulent election where Mahmoud Ahmadinejad was chosen to be the president by the Iran’s supreme leader Khamenei. Iranian prisoners have been treated by IRGC worse than Palestinians treated by the Israeli soldiers in Israeli prisons. CAIR has also been mute on Human Rights violations in Bahrain, Saudi Arabia, Afghanistan similar way they were mute in case of Iran. So here at least we can conclude that CAIR is an institution whose focus has been the interest of mostly Sunni Muslims and specifically Arabs .
Throughout the country in Iran all Mosques are controlled by the Iranian regime even Sunni Mosques, all Friday Prayer Imams are chosen by the Supreme Leader Khamenei and during the fraudulent election, people’s voices were crushed brutally by IRGC and its surrogates Basij militia and the place of command and control was nowhere except the Mosques where they were used as a temporary detention center and its roof top were used to shoot and kill the people.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=czvRYFLRjeE
So it is natural to conclude that the Iranian regime would use similar tactics to plan, recruit, and implement its agenda from certain Shia Mosques in the United States and other countries where the Mosques are funded or run by the regime’s sympathizers. CAIR should distinguish this fact that not all Mosques are equal, the same way Al-Qaeda would might use only certain Mosques that are run and funded by Wahabis.
In order for CAIR to have an objective view about all Mosques or defend them from various criticisms, first it needs to be an inclusive organization where all Muslims from various groups and sects are represented in its chart and boards. It is only then that it could have a deeper insight about Shia Mosques and Islamic Centers and have an objective view about how these Centers are run and operated. The same is true about Sunni Mosques where in the past there has been cases where there were hate speeches against the Americans, one of them was the case of the blind Egyptian Sheikh Omar Abdelrahman.
CAIR should be the first one to stand up and criticize anyone or group using the Islamic Centers or Mosques to be used for political or terroristic activities and be the first one to alert the Americans about using Mosques for anything but for religious and spiritual purpose.
I wonder what do you actually know about conditions in Israel’s prisons. Have you ever been to one ? Do you know someone who has?It seems like you are implying that Iranian prisons are second worst only to Israel’s. Since as far as I am aware , Israel’s sworn haters are decently fed, get cable access, family visits and even an education at the expense of their victims, not to mention that no one rapes them,beats the living spirit out of them or force them to abandon their beliefs or to be murdered by guards , I find the comparison you made very shallow, to say the least.
Emmy,
Israel does what it has to do to defend itself. That I get, and I respect. But please don’t tell me how nice the Israelis treat murderous Islamic terrorists. When Mossad capture one (anywhere in the world), said terrorist would count himself very lucky indeed to ever see the insides of a prison. Why do you spout such obvious propaganda? it hurts Israel’s cause among those who can read.
Joseph,
Would you agree, or disagree, with the proposition that Shia Muslims and Sunni Muslims are competitors (sometimes violent competitors) of each other, but are both mortal and hateful enemies of the West? I’ve tried for years to understand which Islamic sect (Sunni or Shia) is the more pernicious and despicable. I have not been able to come to a decisive understanding. Perhaps you can help me out.
I totally agree with winston (number 1 commenter) when he says, “It is a disgrace and a shame that dangerous anti-American organizations like CAIR, NIAC, PAIA, OBAMA ADM.…. are allowed to operate in the US.
CAIR is a bunch of buffoons. Like the Anti-Defamation League, they’ve moved from being a reasonably-designed body for communications and mutual learning to a would-be pressure group – but unlike the ADL, they’re atrociously bad at it.
CAIR was *never* “a reasonably-designed body for communications and mutual learning”. It’s been engaged in promoting the Islamic and Palestinian agenda from Day One. As to the ADL, it seems to have lost the script, adopting what might be termed a politically correct agenda – targeting conservatives and Christians, while ignoring the Muslim threat. According to one analysis, only 2% of its reports deal with anti-Semitism fomented by Muslim groups or countries.
CAIR is a Muslim Supremacist, Shariah promoting, organization from Day One.
Bingo, Raymond.
Kevin, you are dangerously deluded. Time to wake up and smell the coffee.
CAIR – “body for communications and mutual learning”
Yeah right … pull the other one, it’s got bells on it!!! Geez!!!
I usually do not condone violence but in this case I’ll make an exception.
I can only hope that any individual of CAIR or one of their loved ones might lose thier life due to an islamic terrorist attack on the USA. And that the attack was allowed to happen because the terrorists were able to do it because our security forces were unable to see it for what it was due to lack of proper training due to CAIRs interference.
I’m also a big fan of irony.
Spot on Jerry!
I too am a big fan of irony and in this case should it come to pass
it would be a great example of DIVINE JUSTICE !
It seems to me that effectiveness of the ‘irony strategy’ depends on whether the CAIR folks accent the “A” or the “I” in their corporate name more. My understanding of the leadership of Iran is that they view sacrificing millions of their own Moslems as a good thing, if it brings about the end result they want. The “innocents” all become shahids, and the world gets closer to Dar al-Islam.
That thinking might be true of the US-based variety too. Who knows?
Who knows?
Anybody who knows Islam knows.
Where did you get the silly idea that the US-based “variety” is anything other than a fifth column?
“CAIR got very annoyed with him, above all when he wrote that American mosques are being used to recruit and organize terrorists, in preparation for potential attacks inside the United States.”
Um, doesn’t this concern anyone? I wonder if the FBI got persmission to monitor (i.e., “bug”) the inside of mosques? Personally, I could easily believe that mosques are a hotbed of anti-American activity, especially if CAIR is involved. If the FBI does find a conspiracy taking place in one of these mosques, do they have the authority to close it? You don’t hear much about this, so more information on the Federal surveillance of mosques would be appreciated.
“If the FBI does find a conspiracy taking place in one of these mosques, do they have the authority to close it?” – There are legal provisions for the USG to seize property which represents proceeds of the crime” or is used as an instrumentality to facilitate the crime. An example of the latter would be an automobile used to solicit a prostitute. I have never heard of such provisions being applied to a religious institution. It would probably generate some 1st Amendment litigation.
you bet it would! “religious speech” is protected. except…incitement, etc.
I have some info on said topic. The FBI is very aggressive in combating Islamic terrorism, which includes targeting mosques. Sometimes they have informants, sometimes they just use electronic methods. When they discover a criminal conspiracy, they will usually make arrests once they have sufficient evidence to convict. It is my impression that they do not normally coordinate with local law enforcement, including NYPD.
CAIR and other Muslim organizations like it are just fronts for the political propaganda machine that is Islam. The aim is to destroy the West and make the world dar-es-salam. There used to be a rule that anyone advocating the violent overthrow of the American government was not afforded Constitutional protection. I wonder how that would apply to Islamic organizations who advocate that?
It’s always a happy day when would-be censors fail to silence voices they don’t agree with…
Moslem activists must have conflicted feelings about their progress of the Cause in America lately. On the one hand, one of their own was elected to Congress, Petraeus is receiving praise from all as one who understands them, and mass immigration from Dar al-Islam nations persists unabated. On the other hand, they’ve been getting some bad press too, persistently getting caught lying and plotting.
Surely the hypocrites strive to deceive Allah. He shall retaliate by deceiving them.
- Holy Ko-Ran 4:142
But Moslems are perfectionists, especially their activist wing. So they feel the urge to stamp out criticism altogether. That could be accomplished with a bomb at a state fair or a big successful lawsuit in federal court. But is that a good strategy? I axe that cuz rat now the Moslem activissts are doing a bang up job a yielding great results every year. A mass murder of Infidels is the primary tool in the 1,400 yr old Moslem toolkit; court rulings made by addled judges is relatively new and risky.
Good advice to them is to hold course with a substantial but relatively toned down level of threats and the occasional mass murder, cool out on raising the noise level, and just lay back and breed. Demographic Jihad, as many Moslem intellectuals have long argued, is the surest way to global Sharia. France is a great example of this, although still a few decades away from fruition.
No CAIR didnt lose, as you can plainly see from the response statement (and why give a response statement to CAIR at at all in the first place), that they clearly specified that talking about Islam is a no no already and made clear that Reza doesnt do that.
CAIR has already been successful. They are just looking for icing on the cake, now.
No, they didn’t win completely. Yes, they’ve already gotten waaaay too much of what they want, but they didn’t get this guy silenced. He’s still teaching stuff they don’t want taught.
no, they called for Reza’s dismissal and were slapped down.
And here is another thing…why even respond?
If Focus on the Family calls on the DOJ to dismiss Loretta King from the Civil Rights Division….they wouldnt even respond.
This shows the power of the Muslim Brotherhood in general and CAIR in particular, that they get responses to their demands.
It may be good that they didnt cave to CAIR, but it’s clear that CAIR enjoys influence over those agencies.
I’m sure that DoD would respond to complaints from Focus on the Family.
How about the Communist Party USA?
how about it? funded by the FBI for decades…
My brothers, Larry and Moe Hammed, agree with me that CAIR is just a group of stone age superstitious, tax-exempt, single eyebrowed simpletons who marry ugly American women so they can avoid going back to their respective third world shiteholes. Their prophet was a goombah and a chlld abuser who hid from evil fairies in a hole in a rock.
Never underestimate CAIR. They are relentless and determined. They are not bothered by little setbacks like this. They are very PR savvy and remarkably clever wordsmiths. They are also seditious, but that doesn’t matter because apparently sedition is perfectly acceptable in today’s politically correct America.
Valerie Jarrett Obama’s closest aide is Shirazi
http://www.iranian.com/main/singlepage/2008/valerie-jarrett
Jarrett is a member of African-American and Chicago royalty. But her story and her life begin in the Middle East, not the Midwest. She was born in 1956 in Shiraz, Iran, about 570 miles south of Tehran.
When Jarrett was born in Tehran, Iran was not an Islamic republic. She may be a communist (see her father-in-law), but I don’t think that she is an Islamist. The revolution did not endear many people to Islam.
BOOK: Obama Canceled Bin Laden Raid 3 Times,on Advice of Valerie Jarrett!
http://www.israelnationalnews.com/News/News.aspx/158411#.UBaduZEYp1O
I am the Prophet, the last prophet, and I have only one thing to say, ” Where be the 6 year old girls”?
I sure hope my followers don’t find out I was actually Jewish like Arafat.
Arafat’s uncle was Mufti of Jerusalem during the Second World War.
Mr. David, you mean?! “the Grand Thug of Jerusalem (Muhammad Haj Amin al-Husseini) who was good ally to the Nazis…the man who met with Hitler in 1941, in order to showing his support for him…and it is the same thug who met with SS Head Himmler in 1943 AT Auschwitz, here, in Poland…the Grand Thug of Jerusalem who was continuously salute the European Nazi troops??!
He was not the only thug…On this cursed soil “Poland” were a good few of criminals and murderers “Tens or Hundreds and even a Millions…”
I’m thinking that the effects of “Shakedown” by Ezra Levant, are being felt outside of Canada. The next step: For more people to get their book in their hands, and then read it, and then arrive at the conclusion – rather than making up the mind about the book before reading it.
Michael:
Don’t claim victory so fast. Wait till the White House reads the riot act to the Defense Department about who to support and it will not be Reza!
Our country is facing the most dangerous enemy we have ever know. CAIR and other Islamic entities are intent on destroying America. We cannot allow this evil religion to prosper any longer. Read John Daniels new book, ‘THE COMING: A TRUE STORY OF HORROR’ @ Amazon.com. Unbelievable!
Mr. Jerry, yes, “the Islamist’s CAIR” and other organizations indeed are HARD working hard to DESTROY the United States of America and its Great values and principles. The USA must gets all those evil organizations OUT of its territories. And must throws out the world’s largest criminal enterprise (aka United Nations) OUT of the United States of America as well. And above all, the USA and its very close allies MUST destroy the evil ideology that is the source of all evils in the world. Just two lovely words (faster, please!!!?)
Mr. Reza Kahlili is an brave and decent man, he is worthy of all great respect…while “the Islamist’s CAIR” is the source of all evils in the USA…it is an organization supportive of terrorism and mightily, but in a different color and flavor, so get it out of the USA.
“That organization (CAIR) was an unindicted co-conspirator in the trials (the verdict was upheld on appeal) of the Holy Land Foundation, which illegally raised money in the U.S. for the Palestinian terrorist organization Hamas.”
I’d like to know what “unindicted co-conspirator” means in this context. In the real world (outside the politics of Muslim Terrorism) this would be considered an oxymoron. If an individual or organization has been convicted of a crime, co-conspirators are indicted and tried as well. And yet, CAIR has not been. Consequently, we’ve been condemned to tolerate and worry about what CAIR is going to do to this nation next. It’s just maddening!
From Wikipedia: “An unindicted co-conspirator, or unindicted conspirator, is a person or entity that is alleged in an indictment to have engaged in conspiracy, but who is not charged in the same indictment. Prosecutors choose to name persons as unindicted co-conspirators for a variety of reasons including grants of immunity, pragmatic considerations, and evidentiary concerns.”
In other words, we know you are guilty but the blowback would worse than the gain from prosecuting.
Mr Ledeen,
What’s disturbing to me is the quote below:
“….and he keeps his personal religious beliefs out of the classroom. He does not lecture on or about Islam or any religious treatise, and his personal beliefs are his own.”
So are we to believe that if he had lectured on or about Islam…. or any religious treatise…. or his personal beliefs, he wouldn’t be allowed to lecture at the JCITA?
Who better to lecture on either than a former Muslim who personally lived in Iran?
Iranians are incredibly open to the gospel message of Jesus’ love and forgiveness. Many are disillusioned with the oppression of Islam and are desperate for the truth.
Every day, more Iranians are hearing the hopeful message of The Way, The Truth and The Life through satellite TV broadcasts. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3HtsAlW1v1k&feature=player_embedded
I can’t believe how deep CAIR is involved in American Security and Intelligence….how much of the show are they running?
I noted during my time in Naval Intelligence that the military is tough in some ways but will cringe on command. I saw very little personal integrity back in the day.
Why should any of this surprise you. The real problem is that they can’t walk away on matters of principle, as for the most part, the skills are not transferable, and they have no private wealth.
I just read this:
Michael Spindelegger @SpindeleggerAt
AYATOLLAH ALI KHAMENEI, SUPREME LEADER OF ISLAMIC REPUBLIC OF IRAN HAS DIED. Announcement by Iran’s Ambassador to IAEA Vienna
http://twitter.com/intent/user?screen_name=SpindeleggerAt
Anybody have more information?
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