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The good news is that since September 28 the Greek government has been cracking down on Golden Dawn, the neo-Nazi movement that won almost 7 percent of the popular vote in spring 2012 and, ending up with 18 parliamentary seats, became Greece’s third strongest party.

On September 17, an antifascist rapper named Pavlos Fissas (aka Killah P.) was stabbed to death in Athens, allegedly by a Golden Dawn activist. Earlier attacks, including at least one fatal one on an immigrant, were also ascribed to Golden Dawn.

On September 28, Greek police arrested Golden Dawn’s leader, Nikolaos Michaloliakos, and other top party members on charges of running a criminal organization. Michaloliakos and two other deputies are now in jail awaiting trial. Meanwhile the Greek parliament has voted to strip six more Golden Dawn MPs of their immunity.

While the Greek constitution doesn’t allow political parties to be banned, the parliament also appears set to cut Golden Dawn’s state funding.

So much for the good news.

The bad news is that, first, Golden Dawn remains popular. It was scoring as high as 14 percent in opinion polls before the rapper’s stabbing, and since then has gone back down to about 7 percent. Whether or not that’s just a temporary dip is not yet known.

And second, as long claimed and as Financial Times confirms, one of Golden Dawn’s strongholds in the country is none other than the police:

[Golden Dawn] has penetrated the country’s police force, set up caches of heavy weapons in remote locations and trained its recruits to carry out brutal attacks against immigrants and political opponents, according to the country’s top security official.

Nikos Dendias, minister of public order and civil protection…has assigned the police antiterrorism unit to probe the party’s allegedly criminal activities…. But another reason for taking the investigation away from the regular police force is that it has been infiltrated by Golden Dawn. Some police officers in districts with sizeable immigrant populations have gone beyond colluding with local neo-Nazis to set up political cells within their units, Mr. Dendias said.

…The move to crack down on Golden Dawn follows an escalation of violent incidents in recent months. Analysts say attacks became more frequent because of police foot-dragging over making arrests of Golden Dawn sympathisers and reluctance by politicians to take a strong stand against it.

Indeed, the bad news.

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The Nazis are becoming popular becasue the main stream parties are paralyzed with political correctness and don't dare to oppose Islamization of Europe.

If the moderates spoke up against Islamo-Nazis, then no normal person would support Nazis.

As it is, if I was in Belgium, I'd probably vote for their neo-Nazi party just because they are the only ones that speak up against the musloid invasion of Belgium.
24 weeks ago
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Your analysis is correct. It takes thugs to control thugs, when law and order has been corrupted.
24 weeks ago
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The threat of mainstream additions to Golden Dawn is the opposite of what's happening in the U.S. In America, the worst racist and sexist radicals are infiltrating the mainstream of our institutions.

In Greece, regular folks who would normally perhaps have no bone to pick are being pushed towards radicalism by immigration and fiscal policies that threaten to push Greece to the edge. The only allies they see are essentially crazy people, but with a few good ideas that appeal to them.

That is dangerous and the Greek gov't has it's role to play in making a normally marginalized group like Golden Dawn more appealing. You simply cannot have a country of only 10 million people overwhelmed by teeming millions from the Third World and not expect push-back.
24 weeks ago
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Here's a better idea: Why don't the Jews, Albanians, Pakistanis, and Bangladeshis just GO HOME? Greece is a very small, very poor country, and it rightly belongs to the Greeks. A nation with no money does not need Jews, and a nation with 30% unemployment does not need cheap labor.

When Golden Dawn starts conquering and enslaving other countries, then we shall compare them to Hitler.
24 weeks ago
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I don't think Jews are harming Greece in any way.
On the contrary, they most likely make a positive contribution to the country, as they do everywhere else.
24 weeks ago
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"A nation with no money does not need Jews"? And this makes sense how?
24 weeks ago
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Despite any claims of austerity, the socialist welfare states continue to spend more every year. This continually increasing burden on their economy's, has cut off any hope of growth. With stagnate and falling incomes, those with political clout are going to use it, to maintain or increase their incomes at the expense of the clout-less. Immigrants will be increasingly scape goated as parasites holding the nation back, and taking an unfair share of taxpayer support. While the blame for economic decline rightly belongs to the burdens of a socialist welfare state, it's the immigrants that are going to be blamed and purged for it, the politics of socialism make this inevitable. This purge in Europe's case is going to extend to the EU and the Euro as well. Only after the EU is in the rear view mirror, will a few states take measures to cut the socialist welfare state, and restore a modicum of growth to their economies.
24 weeks ago
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Don't really know where you're going with this, but Greece has an illegal immigration crisis at least as large as our own. What does capitalism vs. socialism have to do with it? I myself would prefer to live in a growing, capitalist nation that welcomes legal immigrants only.
24 weeks ago
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Socialism has everything to do with it. The socialists get their votes from unproductive parasites, so they support immigration of all sort of welfare cases.
24 weeks ago
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The ancient Greek warriors brought back many foreign slaves when they were victorious, many of them from Turkey, Phoenicia, Carthage, etc. When Greek won its independence from the Ottoman Empire there was a huge population exchange with Turkey, with Christian Turks moving to Greece and Muslim Greeks moving to Turkey.

The result is that, racially, Greeks are no longer very Aryan.
24 weeks ago
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That was the most idiotic post I have read in long time.
What are the "Christian Turks"?
24 weeks ago
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Those "Christian Turks" were ethnic Greeks and the "Muslim Greeks" were ethnic Turks.
24 weeks ago
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One problem with all this is that Golden Dawn does, in fact, have a point. The psychopathic greed and fundamental dishonesty of bankers is a large part of the reason why Greece is in the mess it's in and the rest of the West also is in to varying degrees.

And it so happens that (no doubt for historical reasons) Jews are over-represented in the banking "profession". Which is a profession (IMHO) in the same way that cattle rustling is - apart from the fact that bankers have managed to spread around enough bribes to have their activities declared legal.
24 weeks ago
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Another field that Jews were "over-represented in" is early Christianity. Yes, Jesus and his disciples were all Jewish. "Don't misunderstand why I have come. I did not come to abolish the law of Moses or the writings of the prophets. No, I came to accomplish their purpose." Matthew 5:17

The very person you're named after was a Jew who came to accomplish the law of Moses. You evidently think he came to propagate hate, murder, and torture towards his own people. How sad for you!
24 weeks ago
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If you think bankers are so bad, don't deal with them! Cut up your credit card, pay off your student and car loans, and retire your mortgage. Also, take your money out of the bank and don't invest in bonds, CDs, etc. Of course, you'll have to stop using currency, since that's controlled by central banks. This means you'll have to cash in your IRAs and 401Ks too. Maybe your employer can pay you with produce and chickens? Once you've rid yourself of the evil influence of bankers, please post and let us know how it's going, assuming your internet provider is willing to accept produce and chickens.
24 weeks ago
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Do you have any evidence that Jewish bankers are more dishonest than average?
I strongly doubt this.
I think blaming bankers (Jewish or non-Jewish) is idiotic. Society creates laws ard rules, and then banks and all other professions function accordingly.
If you don't like the way banks, or hospitals, or pharmaceutic industry, or lawyers, or any other profession works, then change the laws, don't go after the doctors or lawyers, or bankers.
24 weeks ago
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I neither have the evidence for that assertion nor am I making it. What I am saying is that bankers - all bankers - are much more dishonest than the average for other occupations. And it does happen that Jews are over-represented among bankers.
24 weeks ago
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Jews are also over represented in the medical profession! Of course, this fact is omitted from your twisted logic, because your true agenda is to round up the Jews and take their stuff. Hitler didn't invent the formula.

In 1348, a rumor spread that the bubonic plague was caused by Jews to poison Christendom, a well worn theme. The Pope tried to reason with the Christian mobs, by pointing out that the Jews were also dying from the plague. But the scapegoaters had a torture-extracted confession from a Jew saying he had poisoned the water supply. As a result, thousands of Jews were killed, entire Jewish communities were wiped out, and their property confiscated. Of course, today we know that bubonic plague is transmitted by flea bites and inhalation, so the torture-extracted confession couldn't have been true, because the plague isn't passed by water.

Hateful people resorting to twisted logic to justify their hate crimes is nothing new. FBI Hate Crime Statistics, 2011, Table 4, religious based hate crimes:

Anti-Jewish 62%
Anti-Christian 9%
Anti-Islamic 13%
24 weeks ago
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Again, no. Jews are probably over-represented among engineers and scientists as well for the fairly simple reason that Jews (on average) are of superior intelligence to the average ethnic Brit (if there is such an animal, and for example).

Actually, the fact that Jews are over-represented in the banking profession for historical reasons - such as the fact that Jews were the first bankers in Europe, for example - is somewhat irrelevant to my point about bankers.

KayakAngler - Sure, the banking system is necessary. But a very long time ago, the necessary functions became a very small part of their business. As for cutting up my credit cards and all that - well, I can't. Because bankers have forced me into penury. I'll be in debt until I die.

I don't intend to post on this thread again. That being so, just one more thing: I am firmly of the opinion that any political party in just about any Western country who made a manifesto pledge to hang the top 2-3 levels of the management of all the banks headquartered in their country would win - by a landslide.
24 weeks ago
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Fletcher, if you are truly poverty stricken, my condolences. Bankers in Great Britain must work differently than in the US. I've never been forced by a US banker to borrow money. I'm glad for my credit card, and my loans and mortgage, and appreciate the lenders who were willing to work with me. Than again, I live within my means, and take responsibility for my life. Like Icarus of ancient Greek mythology, if you fly to close to the sun, don't be surprised if you burn and crash. Maybe the modern Greeks have forgotten that story?
24 weeks ago
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" ... ... has penetrated the country’s police force, set up caches of heavy weapons in remote locations and trained its recruits to carry out brutal attacks against immigrants and political opponents, according to the country’s top security official."

Hmmm ... sounds a lot like a Muslim Brotherhood operation under a different name and with a slightly different focus. Here at home though; they are being courted by the entire government apparatus.
24 weeks ago
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I would rank Erdogan as a bigger problem than golden dawn. First, Turkey is a more important country, and second, Obozo thinks that Erdogan is a moderate. It is scary to have a good friendship between Erdogan and our president
24 weeks ago
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"Greeks democracy has been a success story since 1975" WTF...it's been a never ending trainwreck typified by ever increasing polarization with Golden Dawn at one end of the spectrum and FAR more numerous hardcore Marxists at the other. GD is a reactionary party; ie, it is reacting to the policies it perceives the far left has done to ruin Greece, open immigration, massive govt. spending etc. These parties typically appeal to ethno-centric factions and of course need "the other" to blame for the problems they profess to cure. Given their level of support and the tiny fraction of the Greek population that is Jewish it's a bit of an over-reach to view them as some sort of existential threat considering all the other candidates. As before I can't help but wonder what an article far more suited for the JWR is doing on PJM's Lifestyle section.
25 weeks ago
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They've been on my radar for a few years. Scary lot.
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