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Obama Echoes KKK in Ireland Anti-School Choice Comments

Comments on Catholic schools hearken back to a dark time in American history.

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Paula Bolyard

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June 24, 2013 - 11:30 am
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President Obama made the following remarks at a town hall meeting to a group of youth in Belfast, Northern Ireland:

Because issues like segregated schools and housing, lack of jobs and opportunity — symbols of history that are a source of pride for some and pain for others — these are not tangential to peace; they’re essential to it.  If towns remain divided — if Catholics have their schools and buildings, and Protestants have theirs — if we can’t see ourselves in one another, if fear or resentment are allowed to harden, that encourages division.  It discourages cooperation…

…And I know, because America, we, too, have had to work hard over the decades, slowly, gradually, sometimes painfully, in fits and starts, to keep perfecting our union. A hundred and fifty years ago, we were torn open by a terrible conflict. Our Civil War was far shorter than The Troubles, but it killed hundreds of thousands of our people. And, of course, the legacy of slavery endured for generations.

The president might have added in describing the Irish students, “It’s not surprising, then, they get bitter, they cling to guns or religion or antipathy to people who aren’t like them or anti-immigrant sentiment or anti-trade sentiment as a way to explain their frustrations.”

Religion — and his apparent antipathy to it — seems to be Obama’s go-to scapegoat when he’s at a loss to explain a complex situation that requires in-depth analysis. He uses it stateside to dismiss political opponents who disagree with his agenda and now we hear it again as Obama appears to blame Northern Ireland’s centuries-old conflict on Catholics and Protestants not attending school together. Well done, Mr. President! Let’s hope you can get Syria untangled that easily!

Obama placed his remarks in the context of the American Civil War, which is odd considering how zealously activists have derided school choice, blaming it for racial and religious divisions in society, and considering the ugly history of anti-school choice bigotry after the Civil War.

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"Obama Echoes KKK in Ireland Anti-School Choice Comments"

He's a Democrat; the Klan was the enforcement wing of the Democrat party. He spent 20 years listening to "sermons" that -- except for flipping "white" and "black" -- could have come from a Klansmen's dreams.
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Actually the majority of Americanized catholics led by the nuns on the bus have rejected Christianity and now worship Obama as the new divinity. Nothing Obama says or does will convince these americans that he can say any wrong. So it goes with abortion and homosexual marriage; Americanized catholics are always democrats first and Christians second. Parce Domine ne irasceris nos in aeternum.
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I'm Catholic, and I've rejected Obama when was first a presidential candidate. Heck, my entire parish rejected Obama as well at All Saints and possibly St. Judes. And I'm neither a Democrat, nor a Republican. Heck, I don't even hold any party affiliations. I'm an independent voter, almost to the point of being a voter mercenary.
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I should also point out that I still reject him.
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His reference to a 'legacy of slavery' is another example of how he hides behind his skin color to denigrate anyone who disagrees with him. Obama is half white and let us not forget that.

The progressive attempt to advance liberalism in the U. S. school system is out there for all to see. The reason for the rise in home schools is to shield children from the ideology being taught in public schools.

So, in what context does that differ from Ireland's history? Just because the name is not Protestant or Catholic, does in no way mean that divisions do not exist in America. And these divisions between liberal and conservative are just as troubling. Only the names have changed.
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The separate school systems in Northern Ireland have nothing to do with "school choice" as it is thought of today. There were no homeschoolers, and no independent schools. There were tax-funded state-run schools with a state-mandated curriculum, which included Protestant religious instruction, and tax-funded Catholic-Church-run schools, with a Church-mandated curriculum, which included Catholic religious instruction. And nothing else to speak of.

In both school systems, history instruction followed the political agenda of the relevant community. In Protestant schools, children learned to celebrate the Battle of the Boyne and venerate the "Prentice Boys". In Catholic schools, the misdeeds of Cromwell and the heroes of the Easter RIsing were on the program.

And at both schools, there was an unspoken lesson: THEY (the Taigs/Prods) are the Enemy who subvert/oppress US.

I support school choice, but it can lead to 'Pillarisation" and perpetuate ethnic//religious division.
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So are you saying it's the government's role -- and the government schools' role -- to stamp out ethnic/religious division?
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Glad this subject came up. Stephen L. Carter opened my eyes to the unsuspected fact that the public school system was sold to the voters as free education, but to ideologues and intellectuals as a de facto Protestant reeducation camp network to "Americanize" the children of all those dangerous Catholic and Jewish immigrants.
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That cartoon on the third page is one excellent example of Poe's Law.

I followed up on that website on the margins of the cartoon, and the artist seems to be sincere. Her art seems to be mostly vapid regurgitation of liberal talking points and straw men.
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Two things:

Will the current occupant also advocate for the closing of all Islamic schools in the U.S.?

As for segregation in charter schools, a significant portion of that is due to "progressives" agitating for "leadership" schools for girls and racial minorities, as well as for schools that focus on non-American, non-Western "cultures" to better serve immigrants. (Which of course raises the specter of non-English school programs to better "serve" immigrant communities, another pet of the "progressives".)

So in fact there is a significant movement towards segregation in charter schools, driven almost exclusively by the very people who claim to be upset by it.
And there is a significant threat from a specific set of religious schools, albeit ones belonging to a "protected" group.
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"Will the current occupant also advocate for the closing of all Islamic schools in the U.S.?"

Why would he end the type of school he attended?
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"Obama Echoes KKK in Ireland Anti-School Choice Comments"

He's a Democrat; the Klan was the enforcement wing of the Democrat party. He spent 20 years listening to "sermons" that -- except for flipping "white" and "black" -- could have come from a Klansmen's dreams.
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