In the Future, Will Sexbots Replace Real Women?
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Chateau Heartiste (AKA Roissy) has a provocative post called “Porn Is A Portent Of Sexbotopia” that I read with interest:
Sexbots. The very word sends chills down the spines of low sexual market value women. They fear competition or, worse, replacement….
Sexbots that can simulate real women are still one silicone foot in the fantasy world, but the tech is rapidly progressing. Whoever said necessity is the mother of invention was wrong; the male sex drive is the mother of invention. (Though, I suppose you could argue that satisfying the male sex drive IS necessity.) So, for now, the agog crowd can rest easy that no major sexbot invasion is about to storm our shores….
What sexbots will do is widen the already growing chasm between the sexes, until only the fittest of the fit — and fitness is whatever gets one’s genes to the next generation, whether beneficial to civilization or not — can successfully leap across it to woo a human companion in the way that our genetic overlord intended.
When I was researching for my forthcoming book, I found (with the help of Vox Day) that the 80/20 rule really applied. Twenty percent of the alpha males were getting about 80% of the women. Those men who have more trouble getting women turn to porn and seem to ignore or be oblivious to women. I wonder how sexbots will further change the landscape?
What do you think? Will sexbots be an asset or libility to men in the future? What about to society? These are the important questions.
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Sexbots are an inevitability, as much an inevitability as porn was the first thing to be printed on the Gutenberg press with the bible coming second. The profane before the sacred and as such I believe that sexbots would bring stability and peace to the world. A lot of potential suicide bombers would recant their virgins in heaven if they could just get a little slice here on earth.
And not just the printing press. Films, cable TV, home video, home computers (first offline then online)…. every entertainment medium you can think of got a big initial boost by making porn more easily and privately available.
I hope you’re right.
Do Muslims really need sexbots? They already have slaves (wives) pedophilia is rampant along with beastiality. Unless the sexbots are really really really cheap the average goatherd won’t be interested.
Actually, laziness is the mother of invention. Necessity is the mother of lies.
There are sex dolls called Real Dolls. The things cost thousands of dollars, have articulated metal skeletons covered by layers of high end latex, painted to look as near to real flesh as possible. Despite the cost the business that creates them can’t make them fast enough.
All it would take would be a merger with a Japanese robot company and we’re there. Of course if the average guy can buy a sex partner, built to spec, upgradeable and all, the impetus to build, succeed, and build families will dissipate.
A good movie for this scenario (though not actually a good movie in itself) is Cherri 2000. Lifelike sex robots are owned by everyone, and relationships between the sexes are so bad that people take their lawyers to bars where the lawyers hashes out contracts for dates, along with restrictions and limitations. The process is such a hassle that many don’t even bother.
A development in technology seldom allows us to do something that was previously completely impossible. More often than not, it makes something we’re already doing more convenient, easier, and less expensive. You know, things like acquiring porn or cheating on our spouses.
I cannot resist quoting from C. S. Lewis:
Time for everyone to reread The Abolition of Man, I think.
Well we will probably have to look to the East to see where this is going. Due to the “One Child Only” policy of Tom Friedman’s pals in China there will soon be 20% more men than women in that vast country. This will mean that there will soon be a helluva lot of young men who are going to have a hard time (pun alert) getting any action. Given this fact and the cutting edge technology available in this part of the world I am pretty sure that we can look to the first practical sex-bots emerging from China. (Another way to go might be to some serious work developng the “Orgasmitron” from Woody Allen’s film, “Sleeper.”)
Your quote…”Twenty percent of the alpha males were getting about 80% of the women. Those men who have more trouble getting women turn to porn and seem to ignore or be oblivious to women”…seems right on the mark. In the days before intenet/high-tech porn (and now the emergence of sex-bots) the non-alphas (read “conventionally unattractive males”) had to work harder and raise the level of their “game” if they wanted a sexual relationship with a woman. Technology will take all of the hard work (pun again) out of this process and will also eliminate the soul-crushing possibility of sexual rejection. (“I like you as a friend.”)
On the other hand, it’s hard to blame members of Day’s 80% for seeking an out from the soul-crushing element in modern relations between the sexes. Also, plenty of men, then and now, don’t understand what a “game” is, much less how to step it up–I doubt that in some kind of low-tech alternate reality, they’d be dating or married.
Point is, there’s something about current male-female relations that seems to leave an inordinate number of men feeling desperate and bereft of options. I’m not sure precisely what, but this technological yen feels more like symptom than cause. Contra Mr. Porretto, I’m not sure that disdain for genuine human relations is at the heart of it … quite the contrary. It seems more like a despair of their possibility.
The explanatory factor you seek is “need. Enabled by statute and opportunity, females may now compete effectively in the marketplace and become self directing and self supporting. No longer needing a man to pay their bills and plan their way they develop an aversion to to a submissive role in a settled relationship. Enabled to avoid or to void pregnancy, females are emboldened to promiscuity and overall independence. Need is the factor which motivates.
Reinstate the need and the attendant problems must vanish. Or, enhance the flow of power to those of the female persuasion and watch the population begin to shrink as men, seeking submissive women, and failing to find them, opt for porno, robots, blowups, or whatever.
The young men of the PRC are already hitting dating sites in places like Vietnam for brides. Or for the truly macabre, there are the ‘ghost brides’ where a girl from the country is bought from her family, killed, and placed in the grave of an unmarried man so he can have a wife in the after-life.
Or failing all this, there is always war.
I don’t think sexbots will completely replace human casual sex, due to the Coolidge Effect. A man would get bored having sex with the same sexbot, so he’d have to either purchase a new body or a new head, and the price would add up quickly, if the price of the average laptop is any indication.
It would be cheaper to just learn Game.
Just saw on TV an English Gent making his 6th purchase of an eight grand doll.
He must have a hell of a sex drive if he’s wearing them out at that rate.
Hmmm, an expensive item that is less valuable to its user after the initial use but if replaced by a different instance of the product would be valuable again.
Have we ever had any other products like that before? Would books or video (in the days before digital downloads) be similar? Would the Netflix business model work? I admit that the UPS guy or mail man might complain about having to pick up and drop off a heavy coffin sized box wrapped in plain brown paper every few days at your house.
As wonderful as sex is, there is a heck of a lot more to a “relationship” with a woman than sex.
Bot’s don’t loan or borrow books, suggest restaurants or movies, help around the house, etc. They don’t pick you up if your car is down. They don’t talk or share their feelings – they don’t have feelings. They don’t NEED you when they’re having issues – men need to be “needed.”
I just can’t see a sane, healthy man having a “relationship” with a bot, not even non-alpha like me.
Not talking about their feelings is probably one of their biggest selling points.
Or interruptng with airhead irrelevancies?
Or stating complete agreement with your position, then augmenting your statement with one which contradicts it?
Or disremembering a shared experience in some grotesque scenario?
I’m pretty sure that if we had a sexbot who could convincingly simulate real sex, she could help out around the house, too, and wouldn’t make a fuss out of it, either.
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I don’t think so, but not for any reasons of virtue. People forget that the biological sciences have also advanced very quickly. And the law says we can do what we want to those humans know as “fetus”. A quick and dirty virus to add cat ears and a tail, and you have a catgirl sexpet for sale. You’ll probably destroy the vocal cords so that people don’t mistake her for a human being. Bumping up the sex drive is easy enough, as is dealing with the thumb problem. All easy problems to deal with, and the market is huge! While perverse, it’s still more humane then what women are doing to their children now. Heck, this is the only solution to “gender selection abortions” that might actually work. Instead of murdering your daughters to no point, turn them into profit.
They don’t talk back or complain that you haven’t done something or are not doing it right.
Sexbots. The very word sends chills down the spines of low sexual market value women. They fear competition or, worse, replacement….
Yet many women have vibrators, dildos, etc. They don’t seem too concerned about replacing men. I think that is called bias.
7. Harry the Horrible: re: all those other things: Libraries loan books, critics suggest movies, iPhone apps suggest restaurants, you can hire a maid (and fire her if she is not any good), car services can pick you up (so can cabs), etc. You mention, “They don’t talk or share their feelings,” like that is a bad thing. As far as being needed, adopt a dog from a shelter. They will give you the dependency you crave and won’t take all your money and belongings when they leave you.
Just sayin’.
I saw a item on the news a while back about a man who invented a sexbot so real it had eight different personalities.
The ultimate technology won’t be sexbots. It will be virtual reality devices like in the film ‘Brainstorm’ and ‘Strange Days.’ People will plug in and experience other peoples experiences (sex, thrills, etc) that will be indistinguishable from experiencing it yourself.
How many guys have the disposable income to buy another Real Doll each month as the inevitable disenchantment with the last Real Doll sets in? Sexbots will only take off when the price is right.
a good, effective, all-purpose, non-toxic fragrant antiseptic wash, and you can trade dolls with friends, and there will soon be rentals available as well (small business entrepreneurs, are you listening?).
Women’ll catch on, too, KenBots of all sorts and sizes, etc., will do very well, and everybody will be happy.
Gender issues are caused by bad sex when you get right down to it, and will go out the window for good, and any and all sexual preferences will be readily available and easily indulged.
There’ll be no stupid suicide bombers to worry about anymore, who needs heavenly virgins to die for?
People who want kids and a family will find a way, space travel, etc., and at last, Gaia will be green again!
One of the things women need to ask themselves if they want a man is, exactly what is it about me that makes me worth his time and effort?
The changes since the 60s have reduced what men get from a marriage while increasing the costs, effort, and risks. At the same time, men can get their sexual needs fulfilled without marriage; no strings attached sex with hot young things if they are among the lucky few women desire, and free good quality porn for the rest. Compare that to the expense, effort, and risk of marriage, and I can see a lot of guys going Gault in the future.
If women want men in their lives in the future, they are going to have to start offering men more for less. The current trend of women constantly getting more and more for less and less cannot continue indefinitely. Women become less worth the cost and risk with each passing year and each new improvement in their rights and protections.
JFTR: We already have sexbots. They are called prostitutes. When quality sexbots hit the market in a few years, they will be in competition with prostitutes. Very few guys will buy them because of the Coolidge Effect; more likely they will be delivered to your door on a rental basis. Perhaps they can drive themselves to your place in a Smart Car or a Volt and scan the bar code on your credit card with their eyes and check if your limits can handle the fee using the G5 or G6 network.
Unfortunately you are right. With no fault divorce and the courts stacked in favor of women (mainly because about half of court activity in the US is divorce related and many if not all states act as collection agents for alimony and child support, taking a cut of what they collect for themselves thus encouraging high payments), marriage is decidedly less attractive than it once was. A guy could think everything was fine then one day get socked with a divorce notice and lose his shirt before it even sinks in.
A question I forgot to ask:
Would deserving, which I assume means reliably voting Democrat, poor men qualify for SexBot Stamps?
As long as women can tax productive beta males to pay for their offspring by other males via the massive welfare state jackboot…
Where is whiskey with his prescient commentary on this subject?
Their popularity will depend on appearance, functionality and cost. There will certainly be everything from really high end, very realistic looking/acting with good “responses” to stimuli for the rich (who wouldn’t really need them except as a hobby) as well as fake looking, robotic acting/responding clunkers for the rest. Regardless of what people say, the personality emulator of the thing will be a big seller. The more it can do aside from sex the more people will be likely to spend the money on it. Certainly one that could carry on a basic conversation, clean house, cook, etc. would be more marketable than mere sex toy. Still I think they are inevitable and they will be big sellers once price and functionality are right.
There is an anime series called “Ghost in the Shell” where this issue is addressed. To episodes in particular deal with it. “Android and I” features a guy with a fixation on his “older model” android that the company wants to stop making parts for. He has pretty deep feelings for it and perhaps it does for him as well, hard to say. Good episode though. “Cash Eye” looks at the opposite end of the spectrum where rich people collect high end models and even have discrete get togethers to show off their “toys.” Rather amusing episode because the main characters don’t think much of the idea. A recurring theme is that these “dolls” are soulless and not of much value. Indeed they are even presented at times as not realizing their owner was dead but treating him if he was asleep. Another interesting theme through both TV seasons was that the androids were steadily replacing humans. First you people doing things like flying the helicopters and such, but later they are replaced by androids and the androids are programmed with skills that equal or surpass the humans, something the humans don’t really like.
Note: I know there are a couple of GitS movies, but I prefer the TV series. The movies are too “Childhood’s End” for my taste.
Sexbots will DEFINITELY be an asset to men in the future.In the current legal atmosphere surrounding it, ANYTHING that encourages men not to marry,or even to engage with women when it is unnecessary,is an asset.
Look how many women respond to a man merely opening a conversation with her on some random street corner by accusing him of sexual deviancy (Yes, that is how “intelligent” women are these days.). In a way that they did not intend, they are correct. As “pervert”,or the idiotically shortened version, “perv” (Come on ladies,it’s two syllables,it’s not that hard.)actually means “a person or action that subverts what we understand as natural”,any man who would consider these collections of waste DNA worthy of his time is indeed quite perverted,taking into account the vile and imbecilic slander they slather him with for his troubles.
Sexbots can only serve to bring women back to some semblance of reality if they want to have any kind of interaction with a male human being at ANY time in their lives,and if they don’t,they can stay in their apartment and call their male sex bot a “creepperv”,”pervcreep”,”creepy perv”,or “pervy creep” or any other erroneous abuse of both sanity and the English language their personal sense of self-consciousness will permit as they sexually abuse underage children with impunity-with their male sex bot staring glassy-eyed and uncomprehendingly at the ironic scene unfolding before “him”.
One thing is certain,however, things can only get better from this point. There is simply no possible way to make them worse,even with a bunch of idiots trying as hard as they can to do so.
Prediction: a booming sex doll rental business and sexbot maison closes. Sexbots delivered to your house like pizza or Chinese food.
Some poor Chinese dude will show up with one on the back of his bicycle in “fifteen minutes”.
Actually, the rule applies the other way, too. 20% of the women provide 80% of the sex.
You mean 20% of the 80% of women who have sex are having sex, or that 80% of women provide 20% of all sex? Either way,it wouldn’t be an example of the rule “applies the other way too” it would be a completely new rule or corollary to the rule that 80% of women have sex with 20% of the men.
Here’s another kicker: in a world with sexbots “low sexual market place value” means any woman who has had sex with more than one currently living man. If men can get casual sex from sexbots, and they can cater to any fetish you want, there will be very little interest in casual sex with actual women, with all the risk it entails. At the same time, men have a biological instinct not to want to marry a slut, lest she continue her harlotry after marriage and pass off her bastards as his children.
Many great points, but, consider the sister thread running about 5-X things that could destroy the world, specifically the last example pointing out that computers will likely be smarter than us with in 20 years.
Now, imagine, a mechanical woman who actually DOES know everything, instead of just thinking she does; it may be the owners of these things who end up bent over and “end up”.
The implications go just a bit further than Cheap Meaningless Sex (TM).
First of all, low “market value” males (you know, ones who don’t look like Tom Selleck at age 28) will have opportunities for companionship limited only by their ability to pay for it. This goes just a bit beyond the proverbial “ten dollar an hour hot-sheet motel”. It will probably mean less stress on those less-”marketable” males. Meaning less of the side effects of stress. Things like drug or alcohol abuse, workplace problems, etc.
Second, considering Moore’s Law, there’s a high probability that by the time the purely physical factors have been ironed out (Google “Masahiro Mori Uncanny Valley Hypothesis”), the actual “brain” will have enough terabytes (or petabytes?) of parallel-processing capability to be at least a functional pseudo-A.I. (Think Major Kusanagi in the Ghost In The Shell stories.) Which means that to all intents and purposes, the gynoid (correct term) will be a fully conscious, sentient being. Can you construe laws and Constitutions to allow the ownership of a person- who just happens to have been assembled, as opposed to being born the “old-fashioned way”?
Third, if you have that level of technology available, the question posed by R. Mitchell @ 8 becomes moot. If you want a “catgirl”, just design one. No muss, no fuss, and probably less aggravation all around. Among other things, your “clone” of Tigra from Marvel Comics will arrive fully-grown and ready to get to work at whatever, rather than being the product of twenty years of braces, temper tantrums, and parental dire looks directed at Adolescent Boys With Just One Thing On Their Minds. (Depending on end-use requirements, this may or may not be a plus.)
However, there will likely always be a market for Mr. Mitchell’s alternative; a black market, to be exact. This level of technology, especially bio-technology, will almost certainly extend to operant conditioning (up to and including that old SF cliche’, the “slave implant”), and the principle of the “forbidden fruit” will always attract the jaded, the decadent, the rich… and the crazy. Taking us from Ghost In The Shell right into Blade Runner territory.
Last but not least, as a logical outgrowth of all of the above, by the time this comes to pass, it will very likely be possible to “download” at least a copy of somebody’s “consciousness” (try defining that, if you dare) into a “blank” gynoid- or android, if you insist on being pedestrian. Meaning at least a form of immortality, or the next thing to it. Contemplate the implications of that, if you will. (Or you could just read Genesis by Poul Anderson.)
If it works out in the most likely way, I may see you around. In a thousand years.
Just don’t expect me to be looking like Michael Chiklis with glasses, is all.
cheers
eon
Actually Major Kusanagi is a cyborg, not an AI. She may technically be a brain and some organs in a mechanical body, but she still counts as human. She even had a childhood, a rather unpleasant one perhaps, but a childhood and parents all the same.
Talking about slave implants and conditioning, maybe that would obviate the need for sex bots. If, as in GitS and some other sci fi, computers are implanted in the brain, it could be possible to load programs to control the person’s behavior or even hack their brains and control them like a puppet. So, if cyberbrains do become a reality, folks had better keep their firewalls up to date and mind who they let into their heads.
Not to quibble, but at one point in the original GitS movie, Kusanagi sees a woman who is her identical twin. The two stare at each other in astonishment, probably both wondering who the other one is.
Later, her consciousness is transferred to a completely cybernetic body. By the time of Stand Alone Complex, she is “jumping” from one body to another as needed.
As with the replicants in Blade Runner, there is no guarantee that Motoko’s childhood memories are actually her own. In fact, there is a very good chance that they were programmed. As such, the best evidence is that Major Kusanagi is a “ghost program” herself.
Another term for that is… an A.I.
cheers
eon
There are big problems on the “mechanical” side. The Uncanny valley problem, which I think will be harder to deal with then you seem to, and the A.I problem which has, at this point, rather a “chasing the mirage” feel to it. Then you get into product reliability. Which becomes much more exciting when you add A.I. and voice control to the mix, as well as the geek’s need to “unlock” their devices. First guy to lose “Mr. Happy” to a screamed out “Harder, Harder!” is going to get all the money…..
We have none of these problems on the Biological side, and we seem closer to dealing with the problems that it has. We are growing mature organs using stem cells quite quickly, for example. And suppressing an existing intelligence is something we can do right now, as opposed to the flight of fancy that A.I. has been for the last 70+ years. And our biological systems have, perhaps, 20 million years of “product testing”. As well, the materials are cheaper, and are self repairing.
It seems obvious to me that Biological is the way to go, save for the moral point, which alas, as you point out, comes up on the Mechanical side anyway. And both are a thousand times more moral then Abortion, so there you go…..
Will they have used sex bot dealers? lol
As an older (60) rich guy and a widower, I can say that you can have living sexbots right now if you like. Called sugar babes. They will fulfill your every fantasy if you’re willing to pay enough. And they’ll do it when, where, and how you like. Of course, hey have the detriment that they may decide to write a tell-all book or become pregnant to get child support in large quantities if you have not had a vasectomy. THAT will be the prime attraction of sexbots; discretion. All your deepest, most carefully hidden fantasies can be indulged with virtually no chance of revelation, or pregnancy. Simple memory wipe when you no longer want that particular sexbot or are buying an upgraded model, as you do with a laptop now. Or perhaps you store the personal “settings” you desire on a removable media and insert into your new sexbot.
Sexbots will probably be stolen by operatives to steal digital info from their hard drives for use against political opponents. Maybe some day we’ll find out that Al Franken likes to dress up like Shirley Temple and get spanked with a feather duster.
And he’ll still get re-elected.
Back in the early 1980′s there was an artist that created incredibly lifelike full scale maniquins. Only he did not produce a bunch of Farra Fawcetts but tired painters leaning on a ladder, plump tired ladies sitting on bus stop bench, etc. They were so life like that people coming to see the exhibit sometimes could not find the art in a room full of people – until they noticed someone who looked out of place.
A commenter pointed out then that that “art” combined with the right electronics and mechanics and we were at the utterly convincing SF robot stage. Well, we have the rest of the parts now. And while it won’t be self aware it will be able to simulate it. And if it is linked to the Internet, the self aware part might be a real human 2000 miles away. How would that be for virtual reality? Not in a dream world but in a real world robot? A much more interesting approach, I think. And Playboy could license the body designs.
My question is: Will it be able to cut the grass, wash and wax the car, and clean the pool too? And all while wearing a tasteful but spectacular bikini? If so, they’ll have a real winner. Even the wives won’t object too much.
“What happens when prostitution goes digital?”
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25 or so years ago, IIRC, there was a book which detailed umpteen reasons why a cucumber was better than a man. Female Chauvinist Pig humor in the rising tide of the Feminist groundswell.
A Liberated Man from the Sixties and Seventies, it was educational to keep a discrete eye out for which gals thought it was hilarious — including my ex, which is (only) part of the reason why I eventually asked for a divorce.
That, of course, was back in the analog day.
Please give me a chance to hurry from the room, and you can commence with the digital versions.
I think the sex bots will halt in mid stroke and demand I re insert my credit card.
Then the next perversion. women pretending to be robits pretending to be men.
My basic thoughts are this:
A) Men are extremely visual creatures, therefore if you cant get a “live one”…
B) “Seeing” a real, living woman who is but a “6-to-8″ on the 10 scale, in any real-life sexual/porn situations, will *always* be eminently more satisfying than “being with” the best looking robot money can buy.
Something viscerally satisfying in viewing that which you know is real….pre-recorded streaming porn provides that. Live streaming Porn does that…Peep Shows, Strip Clubs, Lap Dances…they will never be negatively affected by the Bots.
The Robots at home, or maybe in some privacy rooms at a strip club, could enhance the, ahem, “completion” of a Porn viewing/Go-Go Dancer gawking State of Arousal, but I think Live Actor Porn or Strip Club visits will, for the most part, always be THE main sources of satisfaction for men when they cant have a live partner (girlfriend or prostitute) of their own.
The thought of having a mechanical woman really got under my skin. There was no way that I was gonna let somebody else beat me to making the first prototype. So, I went right out to my garage and took a quick inventory of the materials I had on hand. There was a variety of screws, nuts, bolts, and all kinds of power tools. I managed to steal my son’s soccer ball for a head and I tore up a couple of pillows for breasts. What to make a vagina from? I hit on using my vice and power it with my reversible power drill. For an insertion place I cut our garden hose. To make it all move in a proper motion I tore up our washing machine. It had a computerized brain and was programmed the right way: proper motion and lubrication. Then I padded everything with parts of our coach. I hunted up all the plastic grocery bags in the house and made a skin for my mechanical maiden. A little fast drying pink paint and she was perfect, well almost. I had to use my wife’s blond wig and her make up, which unfortunately wasn’t perfect. But, she was ready, at least with the tryout. One Viagra pill and some Vasoline and I was ready. I turned her on to small load and rose to the occasion. A minute later I was in mechanical heavenly bliss. And, may I say, things went swimmingly. That is until, until it hit spin cycle. Two things happened on spin cycle. First, the vice tightened up. Second, there was no way I was ready for the speed. It was then that my neighbors came running because of my screams. My wife was called, the fire department was called, and a shrink we know was called. I am happy to say that I will be out of the hospital in a week, to the waiting arms of my new shrink, and the waiting arms of my wife’s new divorce lawyer. However, though my new lover had a few kinks, I consider this experiment a success.
Since you fit in the hose we can see what your real problem is.
When you buy your first ‘bot, be sure to ask for the size labelled, “tiny”.
George Gilder noted as much in his 1975 book Sexual Suicide (later revised and reissued as Men and Marriage). You youngsters haven’t discovered anything new.
And now one can see why the average (median) female is having sex a lot more frequently than the average (median) man. Also, with a little thought about this female behavior one can see why so many females bark “all men are pigs!” – of course the typical female’s experience is that the few men the majority of females are chasing are seeing multiple females (and the men not being chased by a female horde are sexually invisible* to 80% or more of females who apparently consider them less than pigs if they consider those men at all).
By the way, in his 1988 book Why Men Are the Way They Are Warren Farrell includes a cartoon illustrating the female tight-focus on a small minority of men compared to men’s greater openness to try to initiate relationships with a majority of the available females.
*per Rod Van Mechelen at Backlash.com
I recommend the book Dead Girls.
High end sexbots from Tiffany’s and Cartier’s begin infecting human girls with a strange virus that turns them… not human.
Britain is quarantined, while the Human Front rampages.
Everyone is looking for infected teens whose hair is showing black streaks with eyes turning green.
Sex club shows become truly strange and rather grotesque. What is considered ‘sexy’ is truly bizarre.
You know this article targets men yet has anyone notices the explosion of Lelo and Lelo knock off vibrators? Lets be honest ladies, the idea of Gigolo Joe gets you all a tingle. This sword cuts both ways, besides with trends towards gay marriage/families and the “career” Mom we’ll some day have no more “pregnancy”. Artificial insemination, cloning (allowing two males or females to produce an embryo), and uterine replicators will actually make “sexbots” more attractive to both sexes. Why deal with the hassle of a real partner when you don’t need one to reproduce? Your “man/woman” never gets fat or old, can be made to order so you’ll never be left wishing he/she were a little bigger here and there, can be programmed to like to watch romantic comedies/porn with you or whatever other things you like to do or are into.
See Brave New World, Aldous Huxley. Dont forget to take your Soma/Ecstacy.
What the writer fails to realize is that the femanist movement of the last 60 years has perverted the man-woman emotional relationship as well as the sexual relationship. Equality was the war cry and it has truly been an educatioal, political and spiritual battle. The results are women more like men and men more like women, neither true to their gender. Aggressive, dominent women will produce both a high percentage of passive sensitive males, the 80% she talks about, but it will have the unintendent consequense of ulta-alfa males, the other 20% of her equation. In short, Nature will bring back the balance, Amazon women will cause super Amazon males. The woman’s movement was never about fairness, like the radical blacks, the neo-nazis, the enviromentals, the communists, name your religious group, it’s all about power over someone else. It is always been about dominence not co-existence and that is why they will always, in the end, fail.
The other problem is, it will all quit working if the Beta Males quit producing surplus output to support women and children. Remember high school. All the big jocks and players were the only ones all the girls wanted. The nerds who worked hard and got good grades and could actually complete a college education in anything useful to society were shunned. Those jocks aren’t good for much other than carrying footballs or tending bar after graduation and are unlikely to create the next iPhone.
It is mostly Beta Males who work at jobs that create wealth. Jobs that add value to products, which is the only source of wealth. Women mostly work in service jobs, many of with reduce the value of products, by turning the wealth created by men making stuff into regulations complied with and needless paperwork.
The prime motivator for Beta Males to work hard and produce more wealth than that required to support a crappy little apartment, a TV, a game console, and a small old car is a family. If a family is no longer a good deal for them, they likely will lay down their labors and become slackers. When that happens the river of wealth will dry up and all the office and other service jobs all filled by all those women will dry up and blow away. And there won’t be a river of tax money to support them either.
We are frittering away a mountain of wealth built up by previous generations in the West in a time when every male, Alpha and Beta, got a job, got married, and worked hard their whole life to support their family. If we get to a point where the average guy can’t get a girl and if he does, it is because she is trying to cuckold him with some Alpha’s bastard child, and he can be sure it is just the first step to a future divorce and financial slavery for himself, the system will quit working. There won’t be any money for sexbots. It will be Asian and Indian guys who have them and they’ll be dual purpose. Housework all day to help the wife and then hot sex at night to keep dad happy before she goes and sits in her recharging cradle and updates her OS.
Okay, let’s pretend that such a thing could ever be. Who would want one? A slave. Some have the slave mentality. Look at the way they tether themselves to phones and blogs and videos and games and pornography. To people, even.
I know nothing about 80/20. All I do know is that when I became a man I did not want for companionship. Before you leap to understanding, consider for a moment that a man is a man, not a slave. Any normal person, anyone capable of feeling, is going to go through varying periods of introspection and loneliness contrasting with periods of creativity and pleasure. That’s life.
I have no idea where I am on the 80/20 scale because my relationships were rarely short term. I’m married with kids and we’ve never looked back.
I do know this, however. Slavery is no respector of classes or situations
and there is no end to the means by which a person can enslave himself. A bizarre circumstance is the case of the distant father who declines the creative impulse for which, in a normal man, a family provides the stimulus.
Now, imagine the living hell of convincing yourself that you are having sex, a relationship even, with a machine. Compound that by a world which not only accepts that behavior, but encourages it. The odds of finding your life partner are less than even today. What would they be in such a world?
I have noticed a real nihilism in some of these columns. Their purpose escapes me unless, perhaps, the responses are categorized and then quantified as some sort of data.
I know for my part and like many other men, I’m sure, I’m endowed with exponentially more sexual interest than can be accomodated in a binary relationship. Unless you’re extremely alpha, like Mick Jagger with his 4000 women, us shlubs have to make do somehow. I’m married pretty happily, for the most part; I love my wife and we’re sexual but I find my mind still irresistibly drawn to the contemplation of, umm, what I’d call very large numbers of, umm… beautiful raunchy gals… It’s all fantasy as I have small desire to actually interact physically with a live sex worker, which always struck me as rent-a-diseased-orifice. Sexual mania like this is damaging, akin to enslavement to a succubus, but, again, it’s irresistible, to many I believe—especially in our age of virtually unlimited free porn. A personal sexbot would have to be something along the lines of a playfem/pleasure model from science fiction—like Pris from Bladerunner: gorgeous and intelligent, and just submissive enough to stay un-boring. She/it would have to be basically an artifical human, although I guess some men don’t mind inanimate plastic… Such an android would be astronomically expensive, essentially some form of programmed clone… In lieu of that, or plastoid dollies, we have today’s solutions, found on the web: unlimited pornotopia, and live- interactive. Disgusting and exciting all at the same time.
Wouldnt have one for the sex but it sure would be nice to have one to get rid of the “dead clock syndrome” in the house…..you know how a dead clock is right at least twice a day, and thats twice more then me.