“MSNBC’s Toure: Lying to a ‘Corporation’ Like Amazon Is ‘Not Really’ Lying,” as spotted by Ken Shepherd at Newsbusters:
During a panel discussion on Amazon.com offering discounts to consumers who are parents — a discount mechanism completely on the honor system since the company cannot verify claims of parenthood — MSNBC The Cycle co-host Toure Neblett justified lying to take advantage of the discount, saying “nobody was getting hurt here.”
“If a lie is being told to a corporation, it’s not really a lie,” Neblett quipped, shortly after calling a lie about qualifying for the discount “a noble lie.” For his part, Business Insider writer Josh Barro also excused dishonestly benefiting from the discount because such discount gimmicks are “price discrimination” and because brick-and-mortar Amazon competitors are supposedly the victims of the cutthroat corporate suits at Amazon. [watch the video excerpt at Newsbusters]
But Neblett is himself a paid corporate representative, of Comcast, the parent company of NBC-Universal. If he thinks it’s OK to lie to a corporation, then the reverse must be OK as well from his perspective: In other words, that it’s fine for a corporation and its spokesmen — such as Neblett — to lie to its customers. And given the deep interconnections between NBC and the Obama White House, presumably, Neblett must believe that this sort of lying is acceptable as well, from a politician:
It’s a relatively new development for journalists to admit that lying to the public isn’t a bad thing, but it’s a rapidly growing phenomenon, as sophistry becomes an increasingly accepted practice in the MSM, to the point where it’s openly talked about by those who employ it.
Allow me to repost liberally (pardon the pun) from an item I wrote back in August of 2010, when Jonathan Strong, then of the Daily Caller, caught JournoList member Matt Yglesias advocating lying, via this tweet:
As Strong wrote in response:
Liberal blogger Matt Yglesias likes to call his political opponents “dishonest,” but in a revealing exchange on the website Twitter Friday he advocated lying for political purposes.
“Fighting dishonesty with dishonesty is sometimes the right thing for advocates to do, yes,” said Yglesias.
The exchange, with Washington Examiner writer Mark Hemingway, came on the heels of a debate between the two on transportation policy.
Yglesias pressed his point with another conservative writer, saying, “Do you really think deception is immoral in all circumstances?”
In an interview, Yglesias said he was not referring to his own conduct as a blogger for the nonpartisan think tank, the Center for American Progress, in advocating dishonesty.
Asked who he meant by “advocates,” Yglesias said, “Politicians, things like that.” Not bloggers? “Not me. No I don’t think that’s conducive to what I do. I’m trying to inform people, so I try to present them with accurate information,” Yglesias said.
“What I write on my blog is honest,” Yglesias said.
Well, so you say. And of course, that’s far from the only time in recent years that the Ruling Class media has advocated a little tabloid Taqiyya. As we’ve mentioned before, legacy media house organ Editor & Publisher ran a piece in 2007 that advocated similar tactics for the manmade global warming crowd titled “Climate Change: Get Over Objectivity, Newspapers.”
Bill O’Reilly: “I want to ask you flat out, do you think President Clinton’s an honest man?”
Dan Rather: “Yes, I think he’s an honest man.”
O’Reilly: “Do you, really?”
Rather: “I do.”
O’Reilly: “Even though he lied to Jim Lehrer’s face about the Lewinsky case?”
Rather: “Who among us has not lied about something?”
O’Reilly: “Well, I didn’t lie to anybody’s face on national television. I don’t think you have, have you?”
Rather: “I don’t think I ever have. I hope I never have. But, look, it’s one thing – “
O’Reilly: “How can you say he’s an honest guy then?”
Rather: “Well, because I think he is. I think at core he’s an honest person. I know that you have a different view. I know that you consider it sort of astonishing anybody would say so, but I think you can be an honest person and lie about any number of things.”
— Exchange on Fox News Channel’s The O’Reilly Factor, May 15, 2001.
So why should anyone trust us journalists? Actually, you shouldn’t, as we’ll explore in a moment, if you trust us just enough to click to the next page.