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What to Do About Syria

February 13, 2012 - 2:26 pm - by Barry Rubin
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There is a strong case that can be made for doing nothing about the Syrian civil war, but a stronger case can be made for doing something relatively low-cost and ineffective, indeed, precisely what the Syrian opposition is requesting.

Forget about major military intervention, which would be dangerous, costly, and above the level of available resources.

I’m also not enthusiastic about a major U.S. effort at regime change, since the Turkish regime wants an Islamist government in Damascus that might even be worse than what exists now. The less the Obama Administration is involved the more likely things are to go better.

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Unfortunately, the Obama Administration doesn’t seem able to tell the difference between moderates and anti-American Islamists in Syria. Come to think about it, the Obama Administration isn’t too good at making such a distinction between such people in Egypt, Libya, Tunisia, or Turkey either. Indeed, the U.S. government is taking the Muslim Brotherhood line on Syria.

Russia and China block UN action. The Arab League is talking about an international peacekeeping force but it’s hard to believe either that they would ever accept any non-Arab forces or they would send in their own armies to fight the Syrian military. Most likely this will all amount to nothing. Meanwhile, Syrian documents show that Tehran has provided $1 billion so far to back the regime against the rebels.

And will the Obama Administration shrug its shoulders — so to speak — and do nothing? Yes, quite probably.

There’s also an interesting political dynamic within Syria. I can’t say this with full confidence but there is evidence for the following thesis:  The “official” (that is, U.S.-Turkish chosen) opposition leadership doesn’t want armed struggle and indeed seems to prefer a deal with the Assad regime.

Why? Because they feel they aren’t going to win and can make some arrangement with the government that would lead to them coming to power at some time in the future when they have built a stronger political base. The opposition — despite all the Western observers confidently predicting Assad’s imminent fall — know they can’t win without outside help.

The strongest factor in the opposition are what might be called traditional, socially conservative Sunni Muslims. They might swing behind the Islamists; they are far less likely to back liberals. What might best be hoped for if the opposition wins is an Iraqi-style approach in which sectarian tensions and identities are heightened, the priority is put on getting things right at home, and they want to get along with the West without being “pro-Western.”

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  1. 1. Leatherneck

    Who is telling the Syrian majority tribe to go out after Friday prayers, and be murdered for Allah? The Muslim Brotherhood? The AQ #2 Z-man is for the majority, and he use to be Muslim Brotherhood in Egypt.

    It appears the world system wants more Muslim Brotherhood control for Syria, Turkey, Egypt, North Africa, etc…

    Plus, Syria, Hizboallah, and Hamas can not be left strong if Iran’s underground nuke plants are attacked.

    What is the end game here for the world system? An Ummah with one coin, keeping the oil flowing, and a Hunda for ten years? Will the majority tribe in Syria fighting the minority rulers want more Islamic law like Egypt, and Libya?

    The American government with it’s CFR agenda has gone down the wrong road for money, and power. The world will see even more floods, earthquakes, volcanos, and Tornados for helping the enemys of Israel.

    • factnotrhetoric

      BIG MISTAKE IN THIS ARTICLE.

      The Saudi Muslim Brotherhood are known as “Riots for Hire.” They are hired help. They are not calling the shots.

      The Saudi Dictators are hell bent on a Hitler-Like, ONE WORLD ORDER under the Saudi Dictators. The Saudi Dictators are the NEW HITLERS of the 21st century.

      “Saudi Puppet Obama” will do what he is told to do by the Saudi Dictators. The Muslim Brotherhood will do what they are told to do by the Saudi Dictators.

      The Saudi Dictators have demanded Syria and Iran next from “Saudi Puppet Obama” and the Saudi Muslim Brotherhood. Ever wonder why SoS Clinton illegally funded and paid to train the Mujahedeen e-Khalq terrorists in Iraq?

      No, its the next generation Hitlers calling the shots. It’s the bloody, genocidal, Hitler-Like, Saudi Dictators who are hell bent on world domination who are calling the shots.

      • Chess

        Obama is setting up a shiite caliphate and will continue to do so as WE arm Iran to assist in the SHIITE caliphate. Iran is shiite, like obama, and he and amedinajhadi are TOTAL cohorts. You have been fooled, again.

        The Saudis are sunnis, like OBL was and because of THAT, bhusseino killed him. Shiites hate sunnis and bhusseino figures if the U.S. citizens feel guilty enough to give me their country, let’s see what ELSE we can get.

        A GLOBAL SHIITE CALIPHATE WILL DO NICELY.

  2. 2. Fail Burton

    Russia is said to have at least 600 billion dollars in investments which will be basically lost should Assad fall.

  3. 3. Ken Besig

    Given the Obama administration’s gross incompetence and lack of understanding of the Middle East as a whole, the best course of action for Obama is to do nothing at all in Syria. As bad as things are there, Obama’s misinformed and counterproductive meddling would only make things worse.
    Indeed, if Obama were to try sending arms and support into Syria, like as not he would send to Assad’s forces by mistake!

  4. 4. Martin Owens

    We have no friends in Syria, either side.
    Let us remember the example of the Byzantine Empire,
    who kept its hold on this corner of the world by
    commendably egging on the assorted barbarians to butcher each other
    to their heart’s content.

    We should be organizing airdrops of weapons.

    To BOTH sides.

    • K.T.

      I’ve advocated this same course of action for many years concerning the middle east. Keeps em too busy to mess with us – thins the herd as well.

  5. 5. Pnina

    “For centuries, diplomats of powerful countries have known that you don’t enter into a coalition unless you absolutely cannot avoid it or, even better, you control it. Otherwise, your interests get ground down by those of others.”

    The far left in the West isn’t thinking about the interests of their own respective countries, but about the interests of mankind as they see them. They don’t want the US to act as a superpower, they see it as imperialism. The problem with this attitude is that it creates imbalance since while a far-left ruled Western country will try to act selflessly other countries will still act selfishly, while far-leftist ruled country A will consider the interests of country B as equally or more important than its own, country B will also consider its own interests more important than those of country A, which means nobody will act in the interest of country A. As long as being selfless or at least considerate of the interests of others isn’t universal a country that doesn’t place its own interests as its top priority will be simply taken advantage of.

  6. 6. Pnina

    What if the MoHood does take over in Syria? You don’t know that they won’t. Then you will have Egypt, Syria and Gaza. In the PA the MoHood (Hamas) enters a unity government with Fatah. And Abbas was talking about election next year, which might bring the MoHood into power there too. With this kind of constellation how long will Jordan, pressed between them, hold? With a population as liberal as Egypt’s it will either fall to the MB itself or the monarchy will have to adjust and adopt a more radical attitude to appeal to both its people and its neighbors and prevent its overthrow.

    But then Assad remaining in power is also a bad option. And if the world stands by and just watches how he slaughters people and then the revolutionaries topple him the new regime will have a good excuse for a radical anti-Western stance, an excuse the Western left will no doubt accept at face value.

    There are no good options in the Middle East at this time and it’s difficult to tell which is the lesser evil.

    • Locomotive Breath

      “There are no good options in the Middle East…”

      Well, we could support Israel.

  7. 7. Daniel Teeboom

    “America can’t be a great power if the Russians, Chinese, and others (notably Turkey) are able to yank out the power plug any time they want.”

    But that is exactly what the left wants. Perhaps they have not thought of the consequences, they never do. But they have been looking forward to this moment for years.

    Essentially they are defeatists. Can’t fight terror, can’t stop illegal immigration, can’t prevent Iran from getting nukes, can’t reduce crime by jail time…the only thing they believe they can prevent is pregnancy.

  8. 8. FeralCat

    Well, what would Reagan say?

    Our experience in Lebanon led to the adoption by the administration of a set of principles to guide America in the application of military force abroad, and I would recommend it to future Presidents. The policy we adopted included these principles:
    1. The United States should not commit its forces to military action overseas unless the cause is vital to our national interest.
    2. If the decision is made to commit our forces to combat abroad, it must be done with the clear intent and support needed to win. It should not be a halfway or tentative commitment, and there must be clearly defined and realistic objectives.
    3. Before we commit our troops to combat, there must be reasonable assurance that the cause we are fighting for and the actions we take will have the support of the American people and Congress.
    4. Even after all these other tests are met, our troops should be committed to combat abroad only as a last resort, when no other choice is available.” – Ronald Reagan

    • Brutus

      Great response FeralCat. Any action in Syria should be led by the Arab League or, as a peace keeping force only, the UN. Syria isn’t Egypt or Libya, each of these situations is unique.

  9. What if we intervene and you end up with another Libya, where Libyan militias are still fighting now and are quickly turning Libya into a failed state, just like Somalia? Is that what we want for Syria, to have yet another Somalia? Perhaps if we start supporting western secular factions within Syria instead of Islamic militias (like we did in Libya), we might get better results. And if there are no pro-western factions, then let them fight it out on their own. Who needs to get involved if there isn’t anything in it for us? After all, if there are only Islamists in Syria, then whatever replaces Assad can’t be that much worse than Assad himself. So let them slug it out. We need to stop getting involved in other people’s civil wars, unless there are at least some major factions fighting that want a pro-western government.

  10. 10. cfbleachers

    The small c communists are subjects of the Large C communists…the deep bows are real.

    Apologizing for America…unilaterally subjugating our nation to the wishes, will and way of Russia and China…toppling pro-Western leadership and assisting the MusBro iron fist…these are not “accidents” of history in the making.

    The reason that American “policy” seems scattered and disjointed is based upon those who interpret it without accepting the premise that is necessary to understand it.

    The small c communists are joined in a revolutionary struggle WITH the jihadists, not against them.

    In order to keep the passengers on this hijacked voyage calm, soothed and unaware…the “announcements” over the loudspeaker must spout “reassurances” that the “intent” is X…when it truly is not.

    Israel is in imminent peril. This administration does not share America’s love for her. Nor our strong, unbreakable desire to stand shoulder to shoulder with her.

    If one starts from the premise that the small c communists want to destroy America and Israel…certainly capitalism and the free market, most certainly Judeo-Christian status in the world…but does not want to announce such intentions…they would do precisely what they are doing now and have been doing.

    Revolutionary struggle…where China and Russia come out with more power…and America and Israel come out with much, much less…where we weaken our position in the region, where Israel is surrounded…and we jackpot them at every turn…where we turn our back on the Balkans, Eastern Europe and South Korea and Taiwan, where we send back the bust of Churchill and give the queen an I-pad of small c communist speeches, where we prop up China by borrowing ourselves into abject weakness…without rhyme or reason for such borrowing…is not an “accident” of history.

    Sparking “revolution” in order to topple those who were at peace with America and Israel…and replacing them with those who will eventually be controlled by China and Russia, while pulling out of Iraq and Afghanistan…pretty much seals the deal.

    Allowing Iran to become a nuclear power, shifts the balance away from Israel even further. Driving UP the price of foreign oil…and strangling our own natural resources and killing a deal with Canada…for no apparent reason…further shifts the balance of power away from America.

    We are being crushed…from the inside. With deepest, deepest apologies to Israel…we are in no position to help her…we can’t even help ourselves. Our own media is in the conspiracy against us. We can’t get the message out to our own people…much less the rest of the free world.

    And…nobody believes there is a conspiracy afoot, because they aren’t getting enough information to connect the dots. And…they keep coming to wrong conclusions about our seemingly “odd” behavior. At some point…”incompetence” does not explain how every “coincidence” lines up in the exact same direction.

    Again, we are deeply sorry we can’t help. We can’t get off this plane until November.

    • Philippe

      You are 100% right; there is no such a thing as a clumsy or incompetent Obama. The President is a radical-leftist mole , eager to reinforce any anti-western state or group or political movement. In Syria there is a clear cold war style crisis; Russia and Iran are protecting their local proxy, who can butcher at will his own population, but Obama will not budge one centimeter because he likes very much the results of that cold war style crisis where the totalitarian and anti-western axis is winning.
      So I don’t see any wisdom in <Barry Rubin analysis, quite the contrary, Mr Rubin still remains perplexed and puzzled at Obama' choices, but Obama' choices are exactly what Mr Rubin would advise him to do, that is to stay away, stay neutral in front of another victory of the evil axis.

  11. 11. spindok

    Quote from a Syrian Army defector (from Elder of Zyon)

    Lt. Hassan will continue to fight the Syrian army and spread the messages of the Free Syria Army over the Internet. During our conversation there is one message he felt is important to him to clarify in no uncertain terms: “Zionists, do not think that after the government is replaced we would give up the sword. The Golan Heights and the Zionist state is still defined as ‘Dar al Harb’ (Muslim area of ​​war). After we release Syria from the corrupt regime, we will be stronger to face the Jews.”

    There’s nothing in the streets
    Looks any different to me
    And the slogans are replaced, by-the-bye
    And the parting on the left
    Are now parting on the right
    And the beards have all grown longer overnight

    I’ll tip my hat to the new constitution
    Take a bow for the new revolution
    Smile and grin at the change all around
    Pick up my guitar and play
    Just like yesterday
    Then I’ll get on my knees and pray
    We don’t get fooled again
    Don’t get fooled again
    No, no!

    Pete Townsend

    • NorthernBorderIsrael

      So they hate us – what do u want to do kill them all???

  12. 12. cfbleachers

    J.E. Dyer’s explanation of …and detailed information about…Russian deep involvement in teeing up the Middle East. A must read…although some of my conclusions are different, at least we can agree on the facts first.

    It is not certain how these questions would be answered, and that’s where Russia’s dilemma lies. I do not by any means assess that Russia is ready to launch a campaign today. But I do assess that the West has not taken seriously Russia’s fundamental objection to seeing Syria regime-changed by an Arab coalition whose principal outside patron is not Russia. The problem for Russia is not so much that Assad has to be replaced as that the Western powers propose to do it in conjunction with the Arab League, an arrangement that diminishes Russia’s influence on the process while opening a door for state-Islamist radicals. If Syria is to be given a new regime through an Arab partnership, Russia wants to be in the lead.

    The strategic issue for Russia here is not merely the narrow concern about having a base in the Med. It is the approach, ever closer to Russia, of a Western-backed “tectonic shift” – Medvedev’s expression for the Arab Spring – that keeps opening political doors to the Muslim Brotherhood. If common cause is going to be made with the Muslim Brotherhood, Russia will do it, selectively, and for her own purposes. She will resist having Muslim Brotherhood-led or -influenced regimes inflicted on her near abroad by the West.

    http://hotair.com/greenroom/archives/2012/02/12/syria-russia-it-all-looks-different-from-out-there/

  13. 13. ETAB

    What if, cfb, we consider this global situation, not from the perspective of individual and separate nation-states; not from the perspective of which nation-state ought to be, or is, the most dominant – which presupposes that one ‘ought to be’ dominant.

    What if we consider the global situation almost from an ecological viewpoint, where different parts – different by virtue of basic resources and history – must nevertheless work together because they are all co-existent within this one vast earth. They are co-existent now because technological advances have effectively nullified space and time zones of separation – and because the world population has so increased that resources and production must be traded on the global market. Local self-sufficiency is no longer an option.

    This would mean – first, that homogeneity would not exist due to the already existent basic ecological and historical differences. BUT, since this global economy requires interaction, then, a commonality of infrastructural type must emerge.

    What is this commonality? I suggest two basic parts: capitalism and democracy. Why?

    Capitalism is the economic method that produces wealth; that is, it GROWS an economy. It is the only method that can function in a population that is increasing vs one that is no-growth. It is based around private enterprise people, known as the middle class — where the private business invests in production, expands the production, trades the results..and so on. The role of govt in this economy is to enable as many private businesses as possible, to provide a limited safety net, and to ensure honesty in the market.

    Democracy is the political method that supports this private enterprise economy. It is the voice of the majority – who are this middle class. They must have the political power to oversee their economy.

    Now – my view, over ‘la longue duree’ is that the parts of the globe that have been so isolated from interaction that although their populations have exploded, their political and economic infrastructure has not transformed into that middle class power….are going through this difficult transformation.

    China is well on its way in both shifts of infrastructure. So is India. The Middle East – was kept back by using its oil resources (which it technologically was incapable of producing and had to rely on the West to supply the technology)..to repress its population and repress a middle class. It is going through this tectonic shift now, and it takes time and conflict to achieve such a transformation.

    My view is that the task of the West is to economically engage the Middle East and enable its middle class to emerge and prosper. At the same time, it has to support democracy, as the political voice of this middle class.

    As for other nations seeking to move in – and not supporting this transformation – we have to speak out, and speak to the ME peoples. Obama, for example, failed to do this in his rejection of the Iranian demonstrators for freedom and is failing to do this in Syria, in Egypt, in Palestine.

    The US is engaged, now, in a regime that is destroying the infrastructure of US democracy (Obama’s rejection of Congress and the rule of law); and destroying the middle class private enterprise. We have to recognize this and immediately, confront and deal with this in the US.

    My rather ambiguous point is that I don’t think that the global economy can support dominant nation-states but can only function within complex, entangled, and argumentative and shifting sets of economic alliances. We have to work to enable these global (rather than single nation-state) alliances.

    • cfbleachers

      ETAB, your point is not ambiguous at all.

      Capitalism is the engine and democracy the steering mechanism for a shrinking world and the melding of “virtual” economic borders.

      What we face internally today…and have faced externally across the globe, is the economic jihad against capitalism by the Marxist/Leninists and the lawlessness and corruption that anti-Democratic regimes impose.

      What is abundantly made clear by the small c communist regime here at home, (and poignantly by Greek riots and the PIIGS collapse) is that capitalism and democracy can’t overcome an intentional assault…throwing gunk in the engine or cutting the steering wheel lines.

      If we cannot convince a collapsing US economy that “faux populism” is really a tyrant’s sleight of hand trick…how can we convince the world?

      The economic jihadists have made the class warfare, ethnic warfare, racial warfare, religious warfare game so prevalent in post-modern thought processes…it is nearly impossible to address a single issue…without it AUTOMATICALLY defaulting to one or more of those battle grounds.

      This..is our biggest hurdle. With 50 years of propaganda successfully planted in the low information minds of the masses…we can’t implement solutions, because we can never address anything but fake “problems”.

      Before we can institute cures for global growth and prosperity, we have to accurately diagnose the problem of radical economic jihad brainwashing.

      And…now…we have to do that first…here at home. Inside our walls of government, inside our justice department, inside our Senate, inside our Supreme Court. We are in mortal danger at home.

      Which is why I have so much frustration with the lack of quality we are putting up against it in November.

      • ETAB

        Ah yes – exactly. Very nicely said. I particularly like your comment about how we refuse to address the real problems and instead, divert to ‘fake problems’.

        For example – Obama is right now, destroying the integrity and separate authority over moral and social decisions that is held within the Church, and inserting instead, the political authority or a centralist unelected Elitism. A government ought to have no role in deciding moral and social rules of behavior.

        Note, a political authority is focused only on its own power; it has no principles to follow, no universal morals, no analysis of how or why we ‘ought to live’, only its own ‘lust for power’. A political INFRASTRUCTURE, on the other hand, acknowledges the fallibility of political authority and sets up checks and balances to this desire-for-power. Obama is destroying not only the economy but the political infrastructure of the US.

        Obama is denying the church the right-to-analyze and opine moral principles and is instead, diverting the focus of this denial by asserting not only that the church’s views are wrong but that his view is not a belief based on faith but exists instead, outside of faith or reason and exists as a ‘fundamental right of women’!

        This of course sets Obama up as having some ‘direct communication with God’, and his opinions as outside of the moral principles of faith and reason.
        This is the behavior of a dictator.

        And, Obama’s rejection of and contempt for Congress, which is the Will of the People, is well-documented. Obama is destroying the very infrastructure of democracy in this nation.

        I very much agree with you on the desperate intellectual and moral state of the US at the moment. I think we have a fair number of people aware of this, but, for some reason, our politicians are wary of moving into this discussion. Perhaps they are concerned that the brainwashed population, brainwashed for a generation by our leftist academia and media, are unable to deal with this information and will/might instead flock to support ‘poor victimized Obama’.

        Remember, Obama’s tactics are divisive; his tactics are to accuse anyone who argues with him ..of racism, of ignorance, of bigotry. I think that the blogs and non-governmental associations such as the Tea Party, have an enormous role to play in dealing with this situation.

        • ETAB

          Actually, I DO think that capitalism as the economic system-that-enables-growth, and democracy, as the political system-that-enables capitalism, can and MUST survive the insidious and amoral onslaught of socialism. I’m saying that the desire-for-freedom and life is innate in humans, and will always be something for which we fight.

          BUT, the problem is, that, as Charles Peirce, the American philosopher/scientist said, “we live in two worlds, a world of fact and a world of fancy’. That’s our strength and our nemesis. Because of ‘fancy’, our imagination, we can ‘imagine’ flight and rather than grow wings, a rather difficult evolutionary step, we imagine and design and airplane. We design it factually, within the real material world, but our fancies, our imagination, started us on that task.

          So, we will also always imagine ‘Utopia’. What would it be like if everything were ..just perfect? How would we attain this – and isn’t it emotionally desirable to ‘stop the oceans from rising and have peace on the world’? Hmm. The problem is, that connecting these two worlds involves acknowledging the limitations of the non-utopian realities and limitations of our material beings. What happens when some people refuse to acknowledge the material real world and prefer to, instead, live within a fictional realm? That’s the domain of the academics, the political fanaticists, the activists, the fundamentalists. We will always have them, but, hopefully, they will be marginalized within a robust society. When we set up a governing infrastructure that is limited by a Constitution and the Rule of Law – we acknowledge these realities of our living within both fact and fancy.

          I’ve said many times that Obama, for example, has no ability to connect to real people, real events and hard data; he lives within a fictional world of his own control. Put someone that psychologically damaged into a position of power, as we did by making him President – and we are in great trouble.

          Obama considers himself a Sovereign in the sense of someone who is Above the Law. His Will is omnipotent and he is scornful of any who oppose. But our government was set up to deny omnipotent will and to operate instead, in terms of law. So- have we moved to reject the basic principles of our nation?

  14. 14. Mike in KC, MO

    Let… Them… Rot…

    It is none of our concern. If they wish to continue to engage in the most popular Middle East sport for thousands of years running, killing each other, then let them.

    If Israel wants to try to benchpress its will on them, let them, but also let them know that the US won’t be giving them a spot on the bar.

    None of this is worth a single drop of American blood, or a single dollar of American money (or, more properly, a combined $0.60 of American money and $0.40 of Chinese money.)

    We’re broke.

  15. 15. K.T.

    “MUSLIM BROS. WARN USA ON EGYPT”

    Thats the headlines on Drudge Report this morning. The gist of it is they are holding our taxpayer dollars hostage to Israel’s health and wellbeing. Any cuts to their aid is a threat to Israel – not even being subtle are they? Does anyone besides me think they’ll do whatever they wish regardless of US tax dollars flowing into their country?

    Syria will be no different should the MB overthrow Assad. The MB is poised to wrest control in Syria at the right time – they just have to convince more cannon fodder (useful idiots) to step into the breach to topple Assad. No doubt the MB will step up at the tipping point and take control – and the credit.

    At any rate its a damned if you do and damned if you don’t regarding action taken against Syria. And the Syrian people will be stepping into the fire from the frying pan if they effect change. No need to look any further than Egypt for that lesson. One that isn’t done playing out for the people of Egypt – or us.

    I’m all for the US to load up large transports and begin dropping arms and munitions into Syria at the hot spots. We should at least thin the herd before the dust settles on another Sharia ran country who’s main export will be terrorism.

    • ETAB

      What Obama should do – but he doesn’t have the courage to do – is reply to the Muslim Brotherhood that such a threat made by them, to ‘Give Us the Money Or We’ll Attack Israel’ shows that they are not worthy of American aid.

      Obama should say: “We do not assist people who threaten us or anyone else. When you clearly show that you are mature enough to be part of the international community, then, America will provide assistance’.

      But Obama won’t do this. If he’s dumb enough to think that the US MUST provide aid, or Russia or China will – well, he’s dumb. Russia and China cannot afford, internationally, to alienate themselves from the international world to the extent that they would be viewed as aligning themselves ONLY with the Middle East Islamists.
      And – Egypt cannot afford to rely for its economic strength, only on the weak Russian and Chinese economies.

      Obama won’t do anything – on principle (he has none); and on economic analysis (he’s dumb).

  16. 16. Menachem Ben Yakov

    Far from doing nothing Obama has allocated $800 million for the ” Arab Spring ” countries and cut Israel’s missile defense aid by $6 million.

    How much is going to wind up in Michelle’s purse? My guess? A tidy sum.

  17. 17. Marty

    The fact that the syrian army is slaughtering syrian civilians is not new or surprising. That is all the syrian dictatorship has ever done or has the ability to do. Nevertheless, there is something attractive about syria dissolving into the chaos that would come with the end of the assad regime. iran would no longer have a reliable proxy, syrian soldiers would be forced to protect their own families and clans instead of murdering others, and the country, which is a failed state anyway, might disintegrate into several statelets each of which would be afraid of and at with the others.

    • Huron

      I have the utmost respect for all you PJ bloggers, I regularly find your comments as interesting as the picees they comment on. So it is with regret that I am about to radically dissent from all of what I’ve read so far. Simply because the stories about the army killing its own people are not true. Like with Gaddafi last year, when what was supposedly a picture of the “mass graves” turned out to be a picture of a cemetery that had long been p on the Internet: they are all made up. The reports against Assad all come from the “Syrian Observatory of Human Rights” in London and are constantly denied by people on the ground, just like the reports about the genocide Gaddafi was accused of also came out of London.
      I’m a dedicated anti-Communist, but I don’t think this is about stopping communism. It’s much more complex than this.
      I would refer you to Reseau Voltaire, as the main possible source of alternative news, as well as to the voices of Catholic and Christians on the ground. 80 per cent of the people are for the Assad regime because the army tanks are the only thing that can stand between them and the snipers bullets.

  18. 18. Albert Reingewirtz

    No one mention one more possibility for the end of the Syrian situation. I am amazed by this. The opposition is not strong enough to win and then slaughter Christians, Alawites and Druse’s. Change could happen any day in Syria by the traditional Arab change of leadership: A military officer kills Assad and takes over. There will still be more blood shed and repression for a while by the force of the gun held by the strong men. All those who want “to do something” are out of their mind knowing nothing about the Middle East. Just relax, you can’t do anything about Syria and it is a pity the US intervene in Egypt and Libya. We will live to regret it.

  19. 19. Ceteris Paribus

    Obama has the reverse Midas touch. The less he does, the better.

  20. 20. Wishkah 39

    Arab League wants an intervention force, such as UN or NATO. Arab League should be told that this is not a UN issue, and not a NATO issue. It is entirely under the jurisdiction of the European Arabian Dialogue Treaty. The EAD should handle all of it and not fob it off on others.

    Both sides in Syria shoiuld be told that the US takes a dim view of Dhimmi massacre. Whatever Holy guidance is followed, it shall not be for the purpose of a harvest of Dhimmi. If such is started, then the US would consider fielding robot planes and imposing a no-fly zone and perhaps arming the Dhimmi.

    One wonders what they would make of this in Egypt, where 10% are Dhimmi.

  21. 21. roy

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  22. 22. Ken Royall

    How about we let these morons solve their own problems for a change? I don’t see a strategic or national security interest at stake here. Have we learned nothing from our numerous failed interventions? Why is this even being discussed? The hell with them I say.

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