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June 14, 2014 - 10:48 am
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A cottage industry grew up following the revelation that Rosemary Woods, Richard Nixon’s secretary, performed feats of contortionism worthy of Barnum and Bailey in order to “accidentally” erase 18 1/2 minutes of a June 20, 1972, tape that most experts agree contained a conversation between the president and Chief of Staff H.R. Haldeman discussing Watergate.

Here is Woods demonstrating her act:

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Perhaps some day we’ll have a similar photo of how Lois Lerner “accidentally” crashed her computer to erase nearly two years of emails.

To this day, we don’t know what those missing 18 1/2 minutes contained. Oliver Stone in Nixon used the tape gap to try to link him to the JFK assassination. Many Watergate experts think since other meetings Nixon had during the day referred to the FBI, that Nixon may have told Haldeman specifically to tell the FBI to back off and halt the investigation so that it led only to the original conspirators.

Will the missing Lerner emails suffer a similar fate?

Alan Joel at Tax Politix ferreted out an interesting tidbit of information. He recalled the Treasury Department Inspector General report from last year; and, sure enough, the IG used numerous email sources to develop a timeline of IRS targeting activity.

The period of missing emails from Lerner is January 2009 to April 2011. Here’s the IG timeline covering that time period (“Appendix VII, Comprehensive Timeline of Events”).

Some of the events in the missing email time period are quite significant. Senator Durbin’s letter asking the IRS to investigate Crossroads GPS and other groups was written in October 2010. The actual targeting of conservative groups began in March of 2010. Lerner’s own involvement in the targeting begins shortly after the missing period (June 2011), which makes you wonder what she might have known prior to that time.

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Someone destroyed evidence. Just start rounding up IRS/Treasury Management and lower staff and Contractors that work IT systems and jail them for contempt until they produce the emails. I would start with Directors of the IRS and SECTREAS and their Chief Information Officers and Chief Technology Officers and go down from there....sooner or later one of the rats will start to squeal....
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If this doesn't spur calls to appoint a special prosecutor our country is dead.

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Rick, perhaps it is time for PJM to compile, with citations, a handbook for GOP presidential candidates (and the next Republican president...if there ever is another one) to respond to the MSM. It would advise not to produce records, transcripts, witnesses whatever the MSM declined to demand of Obama.
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Can one assume that the IRS has an IT dept that backs up employee computers on a regular basis. Or that all email goes through a mail server which also is backed up. There should be many ways to find the emails of Lois Lerner.
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You place undue emphasis on this misleading point:
" The ability for an inbox to lose certain emails during the time frame — but not others — is incredible."
As I understand the facts presented:
(1) ALL of Lerner's e-mails were lost from her computer in the indicated time frame including those to other IRS employees.
(2) The IRS IT team was able to collect Lerner e-mails from the records of other IRS employees for which the e-mail was sent to or from or who were copied.
(3) The law required all e-mails to be stored on a server which was subjected to frequent back ups.
Therefore your emphasis the ability for an Inbox to selectively lose e-mails is a red herring, a non-fact, a misleading waste of time.
The bigger picture is why are the e-mails available from the server of its backup(s)?
Fpcus on that.
Do not continue the obfuscating false argument regarding an Inbox selectively losing e-mails. It didn't happen and is not an issue.
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Corrected comment follows: It wouldn't let me edit it.
You place undue emphasis on this misleading point:
" The ability for an inbox to lose certain emails during the time frame — but not others — is incredible."
As I understand the facts presented:
(1) ALL of Lerner's e-mails were lost from her computer in the indicated time frame INCLUDING ALL e-mails to other IRS employees.
(2) The IRS IT team was able to collect COPIES of Lerner e-mails from the records of other IRS employees for which the e-mail was sent to or from or who were copied.
(3) There was no selective deletion of e-mails; ALL from the time period are claimed to have been lost in her computer crash.
(4) The law required all e-mails to be stored on a server, not just her computer, and that server was subjected to frequent back ups.
Therefore you misunderstand, misreport and mislead, by your false argument about the ability for an Inbox to selectively lose e-mails. This is a red herring, a non-fact, a misleading waste of time.
The bigger picture is why aren't the e-mails available from the server or its backup(s)?
Focus on that. That is important.
Do not continue the obfuscating false argument regarding an Inbox selectively losing e-mails. It didn't happen and is not an issue.
Where are the e-mails from the back up tapes?
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There is a deeper plan. It is simply to produce a stream of blatant lies, each successive lie more open and obvious than the last, and observe the response. Email is held on servers. While replicated to a personal computer (MS Outlook, IBM Notes Domino) the emails are held on servers, the server storage is redundant (RAID), backed up to redundant storage, and replicated to a disaster recovery (DR) site. So this is an obvious lie. The question is how will Congress respond?

Look for more obvious, mocking, and bullying lies in the future. As Congress does nothing, and the People do nothing, step by step we walk the gentle downward road to Hell.
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Forget the computers and servers IRS regulations apart from demanding regular backups also require a 'hard copy' to be made of all emails . So are we going to be told
a) they disobeyed the regulations ?
or
b) THEY are missing too?
or do they just have a forlorn hope , already dispelled, that the WORLD , apart from them of course, is STUPID and that no one would know how computers , servers and IT networks function or even think of checking the IRS regulations.
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Thing is here, these are emails, sent to outside parties.

Somebody has them. The question is who?
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Does not matter; The Feds will claim they are fakes.
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Someone destroyed evidence. Just start rounding up IRS/Treasury Management and lower staff and Contractors that work IT systems and jail them for contempt until they produce the emails. I would start with Directors of the IRS and SECTREAS and their Chief Information Officers and Chief Technology Officers and go down from there....sooner or later one of the rats will start to squeal....
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I am very surprised that no one has yet noticed or commented on the little sleight of hand that was played here. That is, the original story was, the crash occurred on Lerner's desktop PC - where emails aren't kept anyways. Now, all of a sudden, they're talking about a crash at the server-side.

The IRS told congressional investigators Friday it cannot locate many of
Lois Lerner's emails prior to 2011 because her computer crashed that
year.


http://www.cbsnews.com/news/irs-lost-lois-lerners-emails-in-tea-party-probe/
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I agree but I've learned that when dealing with legacy media reporters, an assumption of stupidity verging on catatonia is perfectly plausible.
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I did notice that. Again I'm left with the feeling that we are being led by kindergarteners trying to explain who painted on the classroom wall. Only those emails to the IRS were lost in a computer crash on her PC, oops, no the server,... oops all of the servers.... And all of her email.... SUNSPOTS!!! They are obviously making it up as they go along.
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Now there is a Clower Piven of scandals. To many to stop the runaway train that is the Obama government.
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That must have been some crash. To destroy the records on her computer, possible. Howsomever, the servers that her computer is connected to also keep records of the information that passes through them. One computer in the network crashing does not affect the server. Furthermore, copies of backups are normally moved offsite to prevent any disaster; fire, flood, tornado, etc, from destroying everything.
So in short, the IRS is lying through its teeth. To destroy completely, any incriminating emails would impossible without an extraordinary effort.
But if the IRS sticks to this ridiculous fabrication, the committees should go talk to the NSA. I believe they also may have kept records of her emails. After all the money the country has invested in surveillance of electronic communication, it's about time we got a return on our investment.
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No one appears to be mentioning what should be a ready source of some of the missing emails - the IG audit files. If they developed their timeline with these emails, then they must have them either in hard copy or on their computers. Building a case without solid documentation in their files would be a serious breach of audit standards.
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I'm starting to like the idea that the NSA has the personal *and private* emails of every government employee. You never know when one of them is associating with terrorists, even if they're unaware of it. You also don't know when one is colluding for political gain.

Using non-government email systems to avoid having a record should be a felony. No pension, no book tour, no getting hired on at a lobbying group, go directly to federal pound me in the ass prison, and this system should be paid a bounty on finding them.

They can use that massive data center they're building to do it. Of course, this should include 100% of the NSA and Justice Department's communications. Among other things - hiding exculpatory evidence should result in a sentence equivalent to the charge they're holding for the defendant.

And since the government can get it's hands on it whenever it wants, that means the citizens should be able to file simple discovery to obtain it.

Hey, it would actually be the most transparent administration, ever. Regardless - I'm sick of the government playing with a different set of rules than what it compels us to live under.
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"In light of the disclosure, these are some of the logical requests that should be made of the IRS:

Please provide a timeline of the crash and documentation covering when it was first discovered and by whom; when, how and by whom it was learned that materials were lost; the official documentation reporting the crash and federal data loss; documentation reflecting all attempts to recover the materials; and the remediation records documenting the fix. This material should include the names of all officials and technicians involved, as well as all internal communications about the matter.
Please provide all documents and emails that refer to the crash from the time that it happened through the IRS’ disclosure to Congress Friday that it had occurred.
Please provide the documents that show the computer crash and lost data were appropriately reported to the required entities including any contractor servicing the IRS. If the incident was not reported, please explain why.
Please provide a list summarizing what other data was irretrievably lost in the computer crash. If the loss involved any personal data, was the loss disclosed to those impacted? If not, why?
Please provide documentation reflecting any security analyses done to assess the impact of the crash and lost materials. If such analyses were not performed, why not?
Please provide documentation showing the steps taken to recover the material, and the names of all technicians who attempted the recovery.
Please explain why redundancies required for federal systems were either not used or were not effective in restoring the lost materials, and provide documentation showing how this shortfall has been remediated.
Please provide any documents reflecting an investigation into how the crash resulted in the irretrievable loss of federal data and what factors were found to be responsible for the existence of this situation.
I would also ask for those who discovered and reported the crash to testify under oath, as well as any officials who reported the materials as having been irretrievably lost.
The Committee had requested the Lerner emails as part of its investigation into to the targeting of conservative non-profits by the IRS. The Obama administration has denied any corruption or intentional wrongdoing. Lerner took the Fifth when asked to testify to Congress. The House of Representatives subsequently held her in contempt. The lost materials are said to include any communications that may have occurred between Lerner and outside agencies or groups such as the White House, the Treasury Department, the Department of Justice, the Federal Elections Commission and the offices of Democrats."



http://sharylattkisson.com/lois-lerners-lost-emails-questions-for-the-irs/
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at some point, the control and administration of that data needs to be protected from those with an interest in destroying it.

Really, if it's ok that a sheriff uses a flash bang on an infant at 3 am to keep alleged drug users from flushing a few grams evidence, I'm certain that a full SEAL Team strike to secure this data would be appropriate.
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