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March 24, 2014 - 7:18 am

This story speaks for itself.

The bodies of thousands of aborted and miscarried babies were incinerated as clinical waste, with some even used to heat hospitals, an investigation has found.

Ten NHS trusts have admitted burning foetal remains alongside other rubbish while two others used the bodies in ‘waste-to-energy’ plants which generate power for heat.

Last night the Department of Health issued an instant ban on the practice which health minister Dr Dan Poulter branded ‘totally unacceptable.’

At least 15,500 foetal remains were incinerated by 27 NHS trusts over the last two years alone, Channel 4’s Dispatches discovered.

The programme, which will air tonight, found that parents who lose children in early pregnancy were often treated without compassion and were not consulted about what they wanted to happen to the remains.

h/t Hot Air

Bryan Preston has been a leading conservative blogger and opinionator since founding his first blog in 2001. Bryan is a military veteran, worked for NASA, was a founding blogger and producer at Hot Air, was producer of the Laura Ingraham Show and, most recently before joining PJM, was Communications Director of the Republican Party of Texas.

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Beat me to it. It is indeed Moloch, for all purposes. Pure, depraved, Evil.
35 weeks ago
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Soylent Green? Much worse than that, MUCH worse.

They are doing what the Caananites did for their brutal chief god Baal or Moloch. They tossed sacrificial babies into a furnace to propitiate him.

You know, I don't go for "end of days" stuff and biblical prophesies, but our "progressive betters" keep providing fodder to just such thoughts and speculations.
35 weeks ago
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These people don't see Soylent Green as science fiction, but as a "how to" manual.
35 weeks ago
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Wow, I can't believe that my comment was offensive enough to get deleted, but Soylent Green passes?

Really. How big of a carbon footprint can an unborn baby have?
35 weeks ago
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God help us! Someone better hide this from Obama or the next thing you now, the Dept. of Energy will be issuing Planned Parenthood Green Energy loans and grants.
35 weeks ago
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aharris, that would be comedic if it were not so plausible.
35 weeks ago
35 weeks ago Link To Comment
It takes more heat to burn tissue than it creates so the recycling of the energy is the heat that remains after burning.
Is this a debate on whether the indignity of intentional death is aggravated by a callous disposal means?
Does anyone suggest another method?
Perhaps incinerated separately?
Not all aborted babies are from intentional abortions.
35 weeks ago
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Apparently their perceived value to the brutish yet supposedly benevolent British NICE system increased after death. Totalitarianism becomes regressively gruesome as it is permitted to metastasize, something Americans need to consider while confronting the Marxist rhetoric displayed by democrats defending the Unaffordable Uncaring Act.
35 weeks ago
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Soylent Green - "It's people! PEOPLE!"
35 weeks ago
35 weeks ago Link To Comment
These people don't see Soylent Green as science fiction, but as a "how to" manual.
35 weeks ago
35 weeks ago Link To Comment
Soylent Green? Much worse than that, MUCH worse.

They are doing what the Caananites did for their brutal chief god Baal or Moloch. They tossed sacrificial babies into a furnace to propitiate him.

You know, I don't go for "end of days" stuff and biblical prophesies, but our "progressive betters" keep providing fodder to just such thoughts and speculations.
35 weeks ago
35 weeks ago Link To Comment
Having been caught up in that "end of days stuff" very intimimatly some years ago I know more than a bit about it.

As in much of what we are seeing in the slow (perhaps not so slow anymore) crawl toward totalitarianIsm in our own land this story is but another offramp sign on the (apoligies to ACDC) highway to hell.
35 weeks ago
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The only bright spot in this horrible story is that we at least have the gift of clarity--the British Government is officially worshipping Moloch. I am not normally of the apocalyptic mindset, but at this point I think that the Antichrist would be redundant.
35 weeks ago
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Beat me to it. It is indeed Moloch, for all purposes. Pure, depraved, Evil.
35 weeks ago
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"with some even used to heat hospitals, an investigation has found."

I'm having a little trouble with this. Incinerating a body requires a tremendous amount of energy. (I've seen crematoriums from the inside. a 4" high pressure gas line is needed to feed a rather small crematorium, and that doesn't incinerate the bones. Those are ground up and returned under the euphemism, "ashes".) I can't see how it's possible to get more energy out than is required to burn the body.

It makes for a sensational story, but there's either some mistaken reporting or someone is embellishing for the sake of sensationalism.


That aside, what else can we expect from a culture that says a baby is just a blob of inconvenient tissue?

Soylent Green is here.

found that parents who lose children in early pregnancy were often treated without compassion and were not consulted

Welcome to socialized medicine. Expect the "without compassion" to be the norm, and "not consulted" will extend to life and death decisions about every patient, regardless of age.


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35 weeks ago
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exactly.
35 weeks ago
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in partial answer to your question, cremation is different from simply burning a body. if you are truly curious and have a strong stomach, this site will give you some info:
http://www.americanorphanpages.com/nazishowers.htm
35 weeks ago
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Having spent some time in the funeral business, I'm quite familiar with what goes on behind the scenes of a crematorium. The industry would love for you to think of "cremation" as something genteel, dignified, and even a bit romantic.

Hogwash.

It's shoving a body into an oven and burning it up. That's it.

The skeleton is left because it would take a HUGE amount of energy to reduce it to lime (which is as far as heat can take it), because, after all, it's pretty close to rock (calcium carbonate). So, once the meat & fat are thoroughly burned off, the skeleton is fed into a grinder. The resulting stuff is about the size of BBs, roughly shaped, and startlingly white, except for the outside surfaces, which are blackened. This is given the pleasant sounding official name of "cremains", more popularly called "ashes" (which it is NOT), and usually given to a survivor as a keepsake.

I once found some old paperwork with some pricing info that was no longer in use. Among the other grisly details was one that stuck in my mind. It was an extra charge for a "grease tray" for obese persons. The industry found that itemizing charges in that way upset people, for some reason, so they went to a "one size fits all" approach.

As far as the actual process goes, any differences you think you see between "modern cremation" and what the Nazis did are are simply differences of motive and marketing.

35 weeks ago
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I know your not implying a moral equivalence to what went on in Britain and the cremation as part of the funeral rite. Of course in both cases the body is burned and the bones ground down to powder. But there is a world of difference between mass cremation to cover up a monstrous crime and a dignified,one at a time cremation.
35 weeks ago
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What makes you sure it's "one at a time"? What makes you think it's dignified?

https://duckduckgo.com/?q=neptune+society+scandal

It's a dirty business.
34 weeks ago
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I think what they mean is that the waste heat generated for the purpose of cremation is used to heat the hospital. It isn't the dead children's bodies that produce the heat, but the heat used to burn them.
35 weeks ago
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That's plausible. There's a lot of waste heat going up the chimney.
35 weeks ago
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Definitely plausible. Cremation and the incineration of organic waste (such as diseased or damaged organs that have been removed, which happens all the time in just about any hospital) have a net energy cost. That being so, I don't see any harm in recovering some of the energy used for that purpose.

The publicity about it could certainly have been better handled, though.

BTW, the same applies to crematoria. One of the lesser known issues with those, however, is that funeral directors need the medical records of the deceased. The reason is various implanted hardware that might clog up the machinery (breast implants, joint replacements), explode (anything with batteries, such as pacemakers) or even lead to the emission of radioactive waste (pacemakers again).
35 weeks ago
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"funeral directors need the medical records of the deceased"

No, no records required. They just ask the family about pacemakers. Metal parts are easily separated before the bones are ground, and anything plastic is long gone.

34 weeks ago
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I've never had to remove breast implants or artificial joints prior to cremation. (I had one family that wanted Momma's hip returned.) You're totally right on the pacemakers.
35 weeks ago
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Different places, different equipment, different rules. I admit that I'm referring to a story I saw quite some time ago. And I'm not in that business; I presume from your nom de blog that you are?

I can easily imagine how melting silicone could clog up gas jets and the like, unless the equipment is designed to account for the possibility.
35 weeks ago
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I was in the funeral business for years before I retired. Regarding breast implants, the heat is so intense (1600-1800 degrees Fahrenheit) the silicone and plastic disintegrates. The only yhing that survives is metal joint replacements, and some dental wiring. Pacemakers will explode and radiation is released. California proscribes a protocol and supplies boxes for them to be returned for hazmat disposal. Although it's OK to bury them--go figure. As for heating the hospitals with fetal material, I concur with others on this site and others that this is a woefully inefficient way to generate heat. I would guess that some PR flack decided (after being caught out) it was time to play the "Green" card. People with no common sense would probably buy it.
34 weeks ago
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The undefil’d tho’ ravish’d in her cradle night and morn:
For every thing that lives is holy, life delights in life;
Because the soul of sweet delight can never be defil’d.

Ah terrible birth! a young one bursting! where is the weeping mouth?
And where the mothers milk? instead those ever-hissing jaws
And parched lips drop with fresh gore; now roll thou in the clouds

Fiery the Angels rose, & as they rose deep thunder roll’d
Around their shores: indignant burning with the fires of Orc

What God is he, writes laws of peace, & clothes him in a tempest
What pitying Angel lusts for tears, and fans himself with sighs
What crawling villain preaches abstinence & wraps himself
In fat of lambs? no more I follow, no more obedience pay.
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