Former DNC Chairman Howard Dean called President Obama’s immigration enforcement shift Friday a “brilliant move” and “the end of the road for Governor Romney on the Latino front.”
“Governor Romney is on record as saying he would veto the DREAM Act. President Obama just put in what he could of the DREAM Act by executive order, since the Congress refused to pass it,” Dean said this morning on CBS’ “Face the Nation.”
“And now Romney is left holding the bag. If he says anything in favor of what the president wants to do, he alienates the right wing, which has been his problem all along. And if he denies what the president has said and says it’s a terrible idea, he digs him an deeper hole with Latinos,” he said.
Dean predicted that Romney could only salvage the Hispanic vote by putting a Latino on the ticket.
“Most people believe that if you can’t get 40 percent of the Latino vote and you’re a Republican, you can’t win,” he said. “Here’s he’s not going to get anywhere close to 40 percent.”
Sen. Lindsey Graham (R-S.C.), on the show with Dean, called Obama’s move “breathtakingly getting around the law” instead of fixing a broken immigration system.
“I don’t think it’s a brilliant move when the president of the United States tells a federal agency, stop enforcing the law. I can’t ever remember that happening, and that’s what they’re doing,” Graham said, predicting that the Hispanic community would see the order as “too little, too late.”
“He made a promise to the country and to the Hispanic community he would solve immigration completely and comprehensively in his first year,” the senator added about Obama. “He had a huge Democratic majority in both houses. He did nothing.”
No group is monolithic. But if this “Latino” group everyone talks anout really won’t vote for anyone unless they just abandon principle and law because it advances the interests of their group–why then should anyone else respect that, or call this “Latino” group a group of civic-minded citizens?
We’ve seen this pattern of bad behaviour before. There was once a block of voters who only voted for those that woud let them put their group’s interests above other groups, and would be pretty vicious about it if you didn’t.
They were called Southern white men.
Basically, to be blunt–if the *only* way characterize the group called “Hispanic” is to say that it is a group that demands other fellow citizens not just turn blind eyes towards bad behavior by its relations, but embrace it, call it a good, and thereafter partially sacrifice their own dreams to financially support those new relations–to do all this no matter what, just because it is demanded and they might have the votes to punish any who do not do so—well, I’d be hard-pressed to consider that group called “Hispanic” a very civic-minded group dedicated to the greater good, and not just their own.
A good working hypothesis would be to take anything coming out of Dean’s mouth as disinformation…..unless it’s “Yeeeaaaaarrrrgggghhhhh!”
Everything Howler Dean says sounds like “Yeeeaaaaarrrrgggghhhhh” to me.
– Romney need heed Howie’s advice.
The problem with this, and issues like it, isn’t the actual policy position. It’s the fall-out from whichever stance Romney takes. On the one hand, if he opposes the President’s directive, Latino leaders in the Democratic Party can be counted on to play a whole handful of race cards, one after the other. Many, perhaps most, Latinos who are in the country legally, support *legal* immigration, and I’ve known more than one who advocates sending illegals back. The problem is that they can’t make the intellectual leap from there to realizing that the charge of “racism” is just bullsh-t, and that the person saying it is making the charge for political reasons. So the argument in their heads becomes something like “Should I support the President? He’s taking this step I oppose regarding illegals, but the alternative is voting for the racist Romney…and I don’t like racists who don’t like Hispanics, since I am one.”
The hope is that they did this too soon, and everyone will figure out they’re playing another card to get support in an election year.
That just shows how stupid the people running and advising the Republicans are. Romney could select an Hispanic VP, offer amnesty and free cash money but it still wouldn’t make a difference. The Democrats would offer the same but more money and let them bring in their families and friends.
The Stupid Party needs to focus on the Reagan message which will sell across party lines, excepting those who have sold themselves to the Democrats for handouts and racial favors.
Anyway, it’s interesting that so many Americans are completely ignorant of the fact that all these illegals will either be competing with Americans for jobs or will be going on welfare. Neither is very good for Americans. But that’s what happens when economics and history are dumbed down or booted from the public school curriculum. Some on here get it, but in the main Americans, especially liberals, just don’t.
There is a perfectly valid reason that Central America, along with our Mexican neighbor to the south, are shitholes: they are a corrupt civilization.
Just as Greeks would much rather gain wealth through theft than by hard work, Mexicans, despite many years as a democracy, somehow can’t get the knack of voting. Every Spanish colony has this same problem. It is a paeon mindset. It is why stealing doesn’t really matter to them.
I have a theory: if one lives long enough under tyrannical rule, one ceases to respect authority, as it is not valid authority. Also, if one lives long enough in a cleptocracy, the only way to survive is through theft, which then loses its stigma. The defining aspect of Spanish rule has always been overbearing, tyrannical, cleptocracy, since Columbus was a pup.
This is why I don’t want immigration from countries where they have not yet mastered the art of self-government, especially when they just steal into our country, unannounced. Teddy Kennedy set this in motion, because Dems needed more voters like Massachusetts Irish Catholic Union members and crime families (or do I repeat myself?) Dems want tribes to enlist and criminals to make deals with, not free men to reason with. Their entire political structure is based on loyalty to the tribe, at all costs, not reasoned debate. They see nothing wrong with flat-out bald-faced lying in order to win. It’s their whole game plan. Obama is currently proving this, in spades!
It is only since Teddy opened the floodgates* to Puerto Ricans that this country has gone all to hell. Coincidence? I think not. Puerto Ricans took black jobs. Blacks , now unemployed, got violent. Government started bribing blacks with welfare. The rest is horrible history.
The last thing we need is more thieving Mexicans, who, having destroyed their own country through bad decisions, now want to destroy ours. (At the very least they stole into this country. The legal ones are quite welcome, in my view. They at least understand the value of Law and Order. By entering legally, they have said that they understand what we are about, and respect that.)
*Floodgates. Teddy Kennedy. My, my. What an unfortunate confluence of terms!
Run Spanish language ads about what Obama is trying to do to the Catholic Church. That’ll flip enough of them to win the election.
Wow, Howard Dean and Lindsey Graham on the same show….sorry I missed that.(sarcasm intended)
ANONYMOUS – We already have a group that only votes for its own interests and could care less about the nation’s interests; we’ve been besieged by them and paying for their slothful lifestyle for quite some time…..they’re called “Democrats”…..which you surely are you racist herpes scab.
Sorry, wrong answer…..
First, I’d like to mention the bit about ad hominem attacks. Second,I am not entirely sure as to your objection, but I will try to take a stab–if you want to act like the South was not militant for segregation or slavery, if you want to act like George Wallace did not stand in the door, if you want to pretend that Alex Stephens did not bluntly proclaim the reason for the new Confederate Republic–in short, if you want to pretend the land of my forefathers (hint, hint) did not do it in times past, then you go ahead, but that is not a journey I’ll be taking with you.
On the other hand, if you want to pretend that those–let’s call them “Hispanic”– who are essentially saying we either ratify de facto open borders or they will not give us their support are somehow the salt of the earth, saints living amongst us who are not in any way to be challenged, well, that is also a journey I will not be taking with you.
Both slavery and segregation enjoyed majority supoort in the South, or at least acquiescence to the loudmouths. Segregation ended when they no longer got that acquiescence, both nationally (first) and regionally (later). And then they started dying out, just as those supporting other defeated causes of the past did after they lost.
You also might want to go read the history of the period leading up to the Civil War. The South was obnoxious in the ten years before the war–there is no other way to put it. Just obnoxious.
And now I’ll go enjoy the rest of this quiet southern Father’s Day evening, where the heat has been just right, with not too much humidity, in the region I wish to live in most. Have a nice day.
Such a cynical move would be vile. Why not just join the identity-driven Dem Party and have done with? Lead, not follow. When the GOP begins to follow they are through.
This is how much President Obama cares about the Hispanic community and keeping promises.
“He made a promise to the country and to the Hispanic community he would solve immigration completely and comprehensively in his first year,” the senator added about Obama. “He had a huge Democratic majority in both houses. He did nothing.”
I can’t believe the Hispanic community will be tricked again. Just like I can’t believe the Jewish community will be tricked again.
Maybe Dr. Dean doesn’t watch the news. There was a lot more coverage of The Won being angry at the shouted question, than any discussion of the actual policy change. Any thinking person has to believe that anything Obama says now is completely political, and has an expiration date.
Romney’s campaign shouldn’t say anything about the new policy, but just keep harping on the message that will ring loudly in all communities, Latino or otherwise: “Are you better off financially today than you were 4 years ago?”