So this is how it’s going to be. When Barack Obama isn’t disingenuously claiming to be the next Reagan, his allies and minions will be out launching ridiculous attacks on Republicans. Enter Democrat Hilary Rosen:
Rosen, also a CNN political contributor and a working mother, made her comments on CNN’s “AC360.”
“What you have is Mitt Romney running around the country, saying, ‘Well, you know, my wife tells me that what women really care about are economic issues, and when I listen to my wife, that’s what I’m hearing.’ Guess what? His wife has actually never worked a day in her life,” Rosen said.
Hilary Rosen may be, in CNN’s parlance, a “working mom.” But show me a mother who has raised five sons who is not a working mom.
Ann Romney has responded, and the Obama camp has faked disappointment with Rosen’s comment. No one should buy that. The class warfare aspect of Rosen’s comment, more on that below, is very much in line with the Obama campaign’s strategic interest of highlighting and criticizing Mitt Romney’s success in life. The Buffett Rule is part of the same strategy.
Rosen’s argument is both an attack on mothers who make the choice to raise their own children, and an insidious class warfare attack. Rosen is not too subtly raising the Romneys’ earned wealth as an issue, by drawing attention to the fact that they had the means to allow Ann to stay at home with the children.
Ann Romney also beat cancer and battles multiple sclerosis. Is it a good idea to attack someone who has shown such steel against faceless enemies?
Look, we just need to start knocking heads until these useless women get it. Myself, I could have been wasting time at home baking cookies, but I decide to do something worthwhile with my life. I support the other Hillary.
That’s a pretty bad……even for a left wing “plant.”
You show why left wing trolls are so inferior.
It actually isn’t that bad if you read the whole comment in context (see below). That said, in this day and age of media soundbites she could have said it differently. The bigger issue is that the Romney camp’s response is more a sign of desperation to find some way to peal back the terrible numbers with female voters. They know they are effed, but they really don’t know what to do.
Romney didn’t plan any of this.
Hilary Rosen made her comment on CNN–and the reaction was immediate and negative. Even from Obama.
My feeling is: If you screw up, I’ll take advantage of it.
That’s politics.
Did you put that through the wash cycle before you started the spin?
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Ah, a Lefty bigot comes out to defend her own, and puts her foot in her mouth, where it belongs. Stay at home to raise the kids and you’re “useless” and “wasting time.” Who needs family — so not worth it. Raising a family has only led to America’s downfall. Simply. Amazing.
The Left always knows what’s best for everyone, don’t they? And they’ll make damn sure you “get it.”
Right . . . . and if all women went to work, the left would be criticizing them for not staying at home with their children. Just keep the government out of American families’ business. We know what is best for our own.
This is the full text of the comment by Rosen:
“What you have is Mitt Romney running around the country saying, well, you know, my wife tells me that what women really care about are economic issues. And when I listen to my wife, that’s what I’m hearing.
Guess what, his wife has actually never worked a day in her life. She’s never really dealt with the kinds of economic issues that a majority of the women in this country are facing in terms of how do we feed our kids, how do we send them to school and how do we — why do we worry about their future?”
Is it false that Ann Romney has “never worked a day in her life?” No, it isn’t. Personally, I don’t have anything against Ann Romney making the choice to be a stay at home mom. Goodness knows she had legions of nannies and servants to make that “hard” job easier. The fact is most women do not have the luxury of marrying into the extreme wealth which enabled her to be a stay at home mom. She should at least acknowledge the fact that privilege allowed her that choice. The fact that she doesn’t just underscores how out of touch they are with average women. Most women do not have the option of making the choice Ann Romney did. Therefore, it isn’t unreasonable to suggest that Ann Romney knows little about the issues average women face on a day to day basis. Does anyone here care to argue that she does? Sounds like Rosen struck a nerve.
At any rate, it would appear that the Obama campaign has Romney and the GOP just where he wants them, fighting on his turf and him setting the narrative.
Right. And Michele Obama is so connected with the average woman (see clothing, lifestyle, vacations, former employment and salaries). What’s the point of this argument? The Romneys are out of touch? And the Obamas aren’t? So why do we have massive debt? What do you want Big Government to do about this “injustice” against females? Run businesses? Take control of the economy? We have the greatest economic system ever devised. It empowers the individual — just ask the Obamas. Never has the standard of living been higher (and that’s for everyone — including “working” moms). Use it to your advantage, like the Romneys.
I think I made it quite clear that I have nothing against Ann Romney being a stay at home mom. She was in a position to do that, so good for her. There are, however, a lot of mothers who do not have those means available to them and to suggest that they are in that position simply because they did not take advantage of the opportunities you say exist simply underscores my main point: that Republicans do not understand or appreciate the issues average women deal with. That they should take that system and just “use it to your advantage, like the Romneys,” is further proof.
As to your comments about Michelle Obama. Love her or hate her she is the First Lady, so your comments about the way she dresses, etc. are off base. Do you think the First Lady should be shopping at Walmart? That a bit silly don’t you think? I wonder if Nancy Reagan, or Jackie Kennedy, would approve of what you said? Personally, I’d rather not have a dumpy First Lady …
Right. So it’s okay for the Obamas to be rich, but not the Romneys. Obama = good. Romney = bad. Great argument.
So you’re telling me that you can’t use the system to your advantage, but you don’t say why. Enlighten us; tell us why we’re out of touch.
O.K., so riddle me this. What the hell was Michelle Obama doing with her children while she held down a supposedly fully time job in Chicago? Who was at home with the daughters? It most certainly wasn’t Barack, he was way too busy voting present in the Illinois Senate. But we don’t know, do we. Why? Mostly because the lap-dog SCUM isn’t willing to do its’ job and find out. Who was the last girl Barack dated before he met Michelle? Who was the last guy she was with before Barack? Oh, and by the way, do any of you think Michelle is really present full time at the WH to keep track of the daughters? Yeah, right, thought not.
since there are fairly credible charges of ballot-forgery, illegitimate money donations from citizens of other nations, and just plain stolen ballot boxes- no, as a matter of fact, she’s not my First Lady. She’s a thief. She’s living in someone else’s house, dressing up, pretending to be a decent, fine American.
She’s not. She’s a horrible, thieving, lying, unpatriotic, un-decent horrible human being. She ought to be ashamed of herself. She ought to be ashamed of the imposter that she’s married to.
I’m not even insisting that McCain would have won. I think Hillary would have. She stole her place from another, far better qualified Democrat. That’s so low, I’m not sure it would fly at a biker bar trial.
I don’t understand why more Republican women do not point out how incredibly condescending this position is.
“Republicans do not understand or appreciate the issues average women deal with.”
Really? I’m an average woman and a Republican, and I understand and appreciate my own issues quite well, thank you. The implication here is that all Republicans are men (false), no Republican women are “average” (false), or that all average Republican women are too stupid and/or brainwashed to “understand and appreciate” their own issues (false). To imply that I am incapable of understanding and appreciating my own life is the height of arrogance.
You sure are a cynical wonder! You pretend to KNOW what Ann Romney’s home life was like with all those “nannies”. You insult my wife, my daughters, and all women who have chosen their children over career! Show me your evidence, for your assumptions and assertions.
Cynical darling,
It’s not just the rich who make the decision to be stay-at-home moms. I am not rich (far from it), but when wonderkind was born, my husband and I made the decision that I would stay home with her. Which I did until she was in kindergarten, when I returned to work part-time. For us,this decision was a financial sacrifice, but we felt it was the best thing for our child. It was hard work too, I can’t imagine keeping up with five boys. Oh by the way, I make great cookies and buy my clothes in thrift shops. I dare you to call me dumpy!
i have to disagree with you. when michelle speaks and acts like a political person then i say let’s discuss and comment. if she stayed quiet and worked as a first lady as others have done then the off base comment might have merit.
Consider the statement that “privilege” allows Ann Romney to stay at home. I know couples who don’t have much money but the mother stays home because of her family values and commitment to their children. Thus, it is commitment and sacrifice, not privilege that guides this choice for some. Second, recall that the traditional household in the 1950′s was an employed father and a homemaker mother. Thanks to economic policy, federal spending, and government policies, this model is much less viable. So, is it privilege that allows mothers to stay home or progressive governance that forces women out of the home?
Certainly it’s a lifestyle choice. A lot of women CAN stay at home to raise their children. For many women their salary cancels out their childcare costs. It did for my sister-in-law. But she wanted to work and whine (trust me, you don’t know her and I’m not exaggerating) about her lot to HAVE to work. If most households chose to downsize (stuff – not square footage) they could probably make it work.
B – Progressive governance and their STUPID wymyns rights movement. Biggest con ever perpetrated on western women! Get women out of their homes, turn them into wage slaves and destroy the nuclear family all at once.
The correct term is, full time mother.
MOST women in America have that option. That choice requires a lifestyle adjustment that most are not willing to make.
Most choose things over their children.
Mark,
Most women dont have the choice for very long any more…
My wife is “stay at home” or “full time” with our littlest one for now, and really I like it…
But the appetite of “da gumbermunt” in the form of Outregeous Property Taxes, makes trying to do that “american family” thing in any decent neighborhood rediculously expensive.
Its not the mortgage, or the groceries, or the car payment that kill you.
I got all that covered, no sweat, with a slighty-better-than-average-ish-I-guess job. I can handle our needs, plus a few wants.
What kills us, though, in our case, that big fat old $791.00 monthy tax tax bill. Thats $9500 bucks a year. My monthy tax obligation is actually larger than my Mortgage anymore. It has become:
The. Biggest.
Single. Expense.
I Have.
I broke my ass for decades to put a BIG down payment so I’d have have a low mortgage I could handle, and still be in a decent neighborhood.
But the County just keeps raising our taxes, year after year, and the TEACHERS WILL BE STRIKING FOR MORE MONEY next week.
You both HAVE to work anymore…not to support yourselves…but to support the big fat, overpaid, local laviathan. (183 day school year, 100K average salary, plus “unobtainiun” medical and retirement bennies).
So we CANT keep mom at home for ever, even if we WANT TO.
And one salary is still always going to be ‘Hostage” to the part-time school teachers(yes 183 work days is part-f*cking time!), Strikes, and odd mid-week days off all year for Bullsh*t teachers conferences and the like
Hint: have them in July/August WHEN YOU ALREADY HAVE THE TIME OFF you greedy liberal/left commie DNC contributing facist/statist pigs.
The DNC and their Local Tax Monsters have destroyed the “American dream” for most people of “average” means.
They force mom to work on one hane, and ridicule her if she doesnt on the other.
I know, I know “so sell your house then, and quit complaining”
But isnt THAT the same thing as saying “let them eat cake”?
Bastards need to see what a Guilotine looks like up close if you ask me.
Your post really p*sses me off. I am a lifelong conservative who quit my teachers’ association when I realized they support a liberal agenda I can’t support. Do you know that most “part time” teachers earn around $50,000 a year? That “big money” can be paid in 9 months or in 12, teacher’s choice. WE ARE PAID FOR 9 MONTHS WORK!
Do you realize that the first battleground of society’s ills exemplifies itself in the classroom? Do you think it’s easy to be trapped in a room with all the Trayvon Martins and other punk wannabes and 25 other children that you want to strangle when you see them run amok in a public place? For 7 hours? Every day?
Do you want to spend a ridiculously high percentage of your work time attending meetings and taking online courses so you can focus on 1-6 Special Ed and non-English speaking kids while the other 22 or so twiddle their thumbs waiting for the No Left Behinders to catch up? Do you want the parents to blame YOU when their kid fails, or goes home saying you’re racist, stupid, unfair, etc?
I work 2-3 extra hours almost every day just to be ready for the students with good lessons and papers graded in a timely fashion. Before you carelessly toss out a “quit your job” comment, I am an extremely popular teacher who constantly hears from parents that my class is their child’s favorite. I always remember they are only 12 years old and that, no matter what, I don’t want to hurt a child’s feelings. Just this year I have a student whose mother is in prison for shooting her drug dealer in front of him, children whose moms gave them to foster care because they didn’t want them, and the list goes on. It’s much like being a doctor in the emergency room, trying to control your feelings and do logical things under tremendous pressure.
I am infuriated by armchair critics who have no idea what they’re talking about. Go substitute in a less-than-perfect school for a few days before you go running down a teacher. Most of us are not what you saw in Wisconsin.
For some reason my smarter-than-iPhone won’t let me see the earlier part of this message to proofread it, so please no snarky remarks if there are errors.
Conservative Texas Teacher,
$50,000/year? Are you kidding me? My husband is a college professor with a Ph.D. who works two teaching jobs at two different institutions, approximately 80 hours week, year round, just to make that salary. In addition, he’s expected to do research in his “free time.” We’re lucky if he can take time off for a movie on Friday night.
Many people would kill to make $50K. So you have to deal with workplace issues, bratty kids and parent–so does everyone.
Yes, they have challenges, but teachers have it very, very good in this country.
Quit your complaining.
Yes, I’ll argue your point. The DEMS are out of touch with the entire country, not the other way around. Do you know for a “fact” Ann Romney has legions of nannies, no you do not. But I’ll bet Michelle has them….Further, any woman who raises 5 sons,WORKS, not open for discussion. You keep adding to the story so stay on point this time…attacking a mother is just wrong and shows lack of common courtesy, Oh, forgot,you DEMS have no clue what common courtesy really is, do you? You know Ann Romney is a cancer survivor mom of 5 who also suffers from MS so why don’t you Dems go pick on somebody else because you are barking up the wrong tree. Then again, under the DEMS healthkill bill, any sick child or adult will be left on the shelf to die anyway, so hey, that will take care of Ann too, right or is it just not fast enough for you? It’s all in your healthkill bill and those who are the sickest, will eventually have their healthkill card disappear and then,they will suffer and die and that is in your healthkill bill too. Almost sounds like if a woman is sick or is not a worker bee for you, or producing new worker bees, then she is useless? unnecessary? and has no purpose? You Dems…great work…. MOMS UNITE! Oh,and calling another woman a cow, is just uncalled for in any discussion. No wonder over 90% Stand with Ann!
I stayed home and raised our kids. Husband was a teacher in the 70′s – earned between 6,000 and 10,000 for four years and then took a “better paying job” selling World Book. He credits me for keeping our economic situation viable. He made the money but I made sure it was enough. I helped him through the years – unpaid secretary, bookkeeper, etc. We earned our money together.
I did not appreciate Ms. Rosen’s comments nor do I appreciate the comments supporting Mrs. Romney. Stay-at-home moms do know what is going on – economically and socially. They make the same decisions so called “working” moms do. They don’t “work” by carpooling and getting kids to soccer games. Give me a break!
Does the “working” mom who takes care of your kids for you have the same smarts you do? Does she have the education you have? The salary you have? Probably not . . . but she does have the same economic smarts you have unless that is your particular area of expertise. She invests, she shops, she makes ends meet – maybe even better than you do.
All moms do that – whether they “work” or stay at home. The woman is the economic power in the home. My husband learned that early. When talking about finances don’t ignore the woman of the home – whether she has “earned” income or not.
Belittling real women seems to be part of that Hermaphrodite minded bull bitch society of the left. To denigrate the single most important job in this world and in life by saying she has never had one is beyond stupid and pathetic. Raising one child properly is hard work,very hard work, never mind five.
The left may bow to Saudi Kings, I, to the housewives of this world and those that strive to be.
President Clinton does not impress as a man easily rattled, but, surely, some stab of icy terror must pierce his heart when he hears that front door open & a warbled “Honey I’m home…”
Liberal troll. I stayed home with the kids when it would have been easier financially to have gone to work. My husband worked day and night to support us. One of us had to be there with the kids. I wouldn’t have done it any other way. Don’t call the s-a-h mom “useless”. Some of the women who raise millions of dollars for charity in Dallas are capable of running any large corporation in this country. This is a choice made by parents. It actually is no one’s business but their own.
“Ann Romney also beat cancer and battles multiple schlerosis. Is it a good idea to attack someone who has shown such steel against faceless enemies?”
Ann Romney could say “Think you’re tough? Try walking a day in my shoes.”
They’d be curled up in a fetal position, weeping uncontrollably and cursing cruel fate before they could so much as get out of bed.
However, like the class act she is, in her televised response all Ann mentions are some vague “struggles”. I hope that the media manages to communicate what those “struggles” happen to be, but I’m not holding my breath.
The press sure made it a laudable struggle in the case of Elizabeth Edwards. But you know (in the mind of our legacy media) Republican women deserve whatever evil comes their way with no sympathy and no quarter. We’ve learned that over the years haven’t we.
Rosen showed during her time as the head of the RIAA that she could be completely bull-headed in targeting a group of people who were only made more sympathetic by the attacks (in that case, the RIAA suing kids and their families for downloading free music — which may have been illegal, but the reaction came across as overkill). So it’s not a shock here after her initial comment on Ann Romney played badly, she would double down on the attack with her response tweet to Ann along with her rushing over to the HuffPo to expand on her side of the story.
The optics on this are terrible for the Democrats, and that’s even before Romney’s MS or being a cancer survivor comes into play. How bad will be seen by hot fast the Democrats and their backers in the big media try to make this a one-day story.
Oh, it’s even BETTER than that. Ms Rosen did what she could to help BP spin its way out of that oil spill debacle, too.
Of course, there’s little mention of that in the mainstream media, but Google can pull up the strangest things with a few clicks.
http://tinyurl.com/bprosen
Cynical Wonder’s lame defense of the indefensible in 5…4…3…
The only women that the demonrats respect are the ones who murder their babies before birth.
And the ones who live on welfare.
And the ones who do both.
Yep, they’re also at war against women who need to work for a living.
The larger lesson to take away from this is that the White House Occupiers present us with golden opportunities like this every week. We need to take better advantage of the opportunities and keep them busy.
At the Rubicon,
Right you are. This election is about the economy, liberty, free markets and freedom, and Obama’s utter failure with stimulus and Obamacare. Every time the enemy tries to make it about something else we need to make it quite clear that Americans are not falling for the distraction any longer. It ain’t about Ann Romney; its about your miserable record of under performance and your failure to deliver for the American people. You’ve had 3 years to fix it and all you managed was to make it worse.
Don’t let them ever get away with it. They are like the puppy who poops on the carpet when the newspaper has been laid down. We need to drag Rosen over to the stinking pile that Obama has laid on the carpet, grab her by the scruff of her neck, and publicly push her face into the fresh droppings.
If Romney wants to get his ass handed to him in November he will keep saying Obama is a nice guy. It’s time for the gloves to come completely off. We need to start with Rosen. She needs to be ripped apart in public and as fiercly as possible. All of the defenders who say outrageous and distracting things need to be rhetorically smacked, and but good.
The issues are as Obama defined them 3 years ago. He and his minnions are to be showed no mercy for their fecklessness.
“If Romney wants to get his ass handed to him in November he will keep saying Obama is a nice guy.
Too late. He said it already, and once is too much. He’s kind of a dumb cluck, that’s all there is to it.
If the Dems are smart they’ll splash the audio and video of Romney’s stupid remark all over the place.
If the Pubs are smart they’ll go to smoke-filled rooms and the convention floor for a new face to run.
the close-quotation mark in the first line. Sorry.
So? It’s not like Michelle Antoinette ever held a real job either.
Or Barrack Obama, either.
Well, let’s see they continue the war on the flag.
They’re advancing the war on moms.
Quick, hide the apple pie.
Oh, wait, to late, that has sugar and butter in it. And the best crusts are made with trans-fats.
I guess we should all consider Dr. Helen’s question. With no flag, no mom, no apple pie, will men become soldiers and firemen?
No. Never.
They’ll turn out like our Our Leader: a metrosexual, narcissistic middle-finger with a Che button in his lapel.
Obama has lost the male vote hands down, and needs the women’s vote to carry him. He can’t afford to lose a one. So from now till November, expect more desperate acts of class and gender warfare coming from the office of the great unifier, in the hopes of scaring us poor dumb females into supporting him, rather than the devil we don’t know.
I am looking forward to more such puerile attacks. In their idiocy and intensity, they show the complete lack of connection with or caring for mainstream American values, or mainstream Americans, for that matter.
LIke the devil, I truly hope they overplay their hand.
It actually isn’t true what you say about the male vote. Recent polls show Romney a point or two ahead of Obama with white males. Notice I say “white males.” Let us look at it another way. With Obama cruising to re-election with a 20 point gender gap, Romney would have to get at least 70% of the white male vote to even have a chance at winning, and we aren’t counting latinos yet (another story). That ain’t gonna happen. The fact is Republicans and their ilk have no clue as to the issues working moms deal with, which is why they are losing that demographic. The funny thing is they have no clue why?
Every Republican I know is middle class and working. Many are women, and some are state legislators. I think we actually do know what working women face, because we have met them in the mirror, and they is us.
Well, that still doesn’t explain why Democrats generally win the female vote and why current polling suggests a blowout on the gender gap. How do you and the GOP plan on turning that around besides the desperate responses we have heard so far? The GOP and Romney need to start speaking to women themselves instead of using neutered surrogates. I think that is what is most offensive to women.
DO tell us what the out-of-touch Republicans need to say to working women. “Just give us the power over everything, and we’ll take care of you.” You’ll be the first screaming “oppression!”
More Cynical Wonderment from Cynical Wonder.
won’t re-elect a living Obama-Barbi doll.
So tell us what you want Big Government to do about your perceived “injustices.” (Let me guess: force businesses to pay you a higher wage.)
Equal pay would be fine. But the GOP is too busy trying to repeal that as well. Your buddy Scat Walker in Wisconsin just got through repealing equal pay laws for women. We can argue about what the government should and shouldn’t do but we, I hope, can all agree on equal pay for equal work.
The Obama administration doesn’t practice what it preaches on equal pay, so you and they can pound sand until that changes.
http://www.nationalreview.com/corner/295875/stop-obama-s-war-women-staffers-deroy-murdock
You sound like someone who has a terrible grudge. My suggestion to you is stop blaming others for your predicament and do something about it. You can if you want to, unless of course you are truly impaired (and that is not meant as an insult). And that is not being “out of touch.”
@Bryon Preston
“The Obama administration doesn’t practice what it preaches on equal pay, so you and they can pound sand until that changes.”
That one has already been debunked. The fact that the desperate Romney camp hasn’t pounced on it it further proof that it is garbage based on cherry picked facts to support the narrative you like. Equal pay for equal work means doing the same job. Good try. Might I remind you that President Obama signed the Lillly Ledbetter equal pay act. It was the first bill he signed as President. To suggest that he doesn’t support equal pay for women in the WH or anywhere else is nonsense, so go pound sand with that.
That one will end up in the dust bin of desperate tries right along with the claim by the Romney camp that women under Obama lost 92.3% of jobs, which has been deemed as “mostly false.”
http://www.politifact.com/truth-o-meter/statements/2012/apr/10/mitt-romney/romney-campaign-says-women-were-hit-hard-job-losse/
I love the smell of desperation in the morning!
the claim by the Romney camp that women under Obama lost 92.3% of jobs, which has been deemed as “mostly false.”
“Deemed” by the Democrats in the media! There is a fair and objective source of deeming.
So goof ball in your all powerful democrat/liberal/progressive mind the next time you want to exercise your right to those rights that allow you to spew your ideas, would those in the military that actually fight for those rights you enjoy have something to do with that? Well you might find that that is in fact the case. You want a lot of things but have you ever served time in the military, there is the opportunity to do so if you wish, and I as well as many others that do not think like you do have and are still doing so, for you to spew your stupid ideas and you know what we allow you to continue to do so because it lets us know what you think!
Keep giving us ammunition to shoot you down and we will use it. Your days of constant lies and deceit along with misinformation obfuscation and the omission and commission of outright lies! We are on to you but just now making you aware of it and will be expressing it more often and more frequently!
You need to find another forum to haunt since your posts are now completely overlooked by myself and I am sure others , it is just that you do not see it, hey when you do your stupid communistic posts do you get an extra nickel for every response?
Recent polls show Romney a point or two ahead of Obama with white males. Notice I say “white males.” Let us look at it another way. With Obama cruising to re-election with a 20 point gender gap …
If this were true then Obama would be leading in the polls by about eighteen points. But he’s not, he’s up by about 0 – 8 points depending on the poll you look at, and Obama fails to reach 50% on most polls.
So Obama is not “cruising to re-election” based on current polling, which is why the Dems are trying to stir up racial tensions (Trayvon Martin) and to foster the preposterous meme of a “war on women”.
cynical, you make me wonder about where your common sense is. the reason so many have to work is because the dang economy is in the toilet. so before you go off on romney take a good look at president clueless and michelle give me more and more because is am special nitwits. i am sick of the false comparisons made by those who don’t do their homework and keep their head in the sand.
Does Rosen really believe that we would rather slaughter a wealthy woman’s horses, than learn how she did it, and then buy her own? Are we so crazed with resentment towards “the rich”- who for some reason keep sending poor kids to the country to idyllic ranches each summer per the NYTimes sunshine fund thing- that we cannot imagine ever being rich, or even well- off?
For that matter, can she not count western votes? horses aren’t so expensive if you already own acreage. I drive by three separate houses with horses, just dropping young’uns off at school. The houses and cars aren’t that nice at two of them. One has a nice car, and a old, old, old, house. People did get the land by settling on it, and registering it, not by buying millionaire lots at auction. Their great-grandparents probably farmed it.
Not to mention the pure, mouth-breathing stupidity of insulting women who stay home with kids. Can she not read her own demographic work? The only way a “majority” of women work is if one includes volunteer work, and less than 15 hours of work per week.
But at least it’s good to have Dems on record as only liking office girls.
The class warfare schtick is a loser. It will solidify Obama with his base, but that’s about it. Independents are mightily turned off by it because they would like a piece of the pie some day. And it’s costing Obama big, big money because his wealthy donors are ticked off by it- even the Hollywood types have donated half what they did to the Dems at this point in the 2008 election.
I really think Romney just needs to come up with a positive, inclusive message. That alone will win him favor over the negative, divisive rhetoric that Obama himself can’t keep from spewing on a regular basis.
– the Great Divider will attack Romney each day using a proxy so he can distance himself or better still disapprove, disassociate and appear above it and unifying. You can predict the next attack.
Well let me tell you as a woman I would have loved to stay home but circumstances being as they were and are I am working. I give cudos to any woman than can afford to stay home, or sacrifice to stay home. I seem to remember not long ago a man who was divorcing his wife tried to take the low road and not pay alimony to his wife because she never contributed financially to the household. I believe she prooved that had they hired out all that she did on a daily basis, it would have cost them thousands of dollars a month. That mom took care of her children, kept the house, stayed up all night when the children were sick, ran errands, cooked meals, and kept and balanced a check book. Try paying anyone on the street to do any of those things. Now I have my husband to help because he and I both work, but I still wish that I could be there for my children but I do not begrudge a woman who can do it because I cannot.
It’s a very complicated issue and every family needs to make these decisions based on their own circumstances. For some families, it may not make economic sense for both adults to work. I remember watching a news segment a few years ago where they did an analysis of a family with three young children. By the time they factored in child care expenses, higher taxes from higher income and other costs associated with the wife’s employment (such as higher food costs due to the need for more convience foods), it turned out that they would’ve been about $3000 a year ahead if she quit work. The wife wasn’t very happy to hear that.
Do your own calculations and make an informed decision. What’s good for one family may not be for another.
It’s not at all about “making sense” it’s about destroying motherhood and daring to allow our daughters and sons to live – it is their very diabolical souls that have conceived such evil.
The have destroyed our entire culture with their putrid guilt-free anti-God and family candy,and the large portion of the masses in both parties seemed to not mind too much.
The left’s liberation against moral authority has taken its toll.
you know, your kids see your commitment to each other and to them. That’s really great. It’s an incredible gift.
The Dems are like Mikey in the old cereal commercial – they hate everything.
Message to Dems: Try life, you’ll like it.
I believe Obama made it very clear that family members were off limits, but that just means his family. This administration seems to think that saying they are disappointed is a credible response. Iran continues nuclear work – they’re disappointed. North Korea gets set to launch a rocket – they’re disappointed. Assad kills his people – they’re disappointed. It goes on and on. Apparently, disappointment is the extent of their actions. Same with Rosen – how about firing her?
Theresa Heinz Kerry played the same card on Laura Bush – it fell flat because Ms. Bush had worked as a librarian while Ms. Kerry is an heiress. It’s interesting to see the left using the same, tired old tactics.
Here’s the WikiPedia entry on Ms. Kerry:http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Teresa_Heinz
Seems she never worked a day in her life, either. But unlike Ann Romney, she seems to have worked fairly well at night ON HER BACK; she married the heir to the Heinz fortune at the age of 28.
I can’t remember the last time I laughed so hard. Talk about an EPIC FAIL.
Wait until people figure out Rosen’s ex-wife is Elizabeth Birch the LGBT activist.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Elizabeth_Birch
That’s going to go over REALLY well…………
Damned Birchers.
Establishes the context doesn’t it; just another bitter, nasty lesbian expressing the typical lesbian contempt for “breeders.”
You do know not all lesbians are like that, I hope. Mary Claire Cheney being but one notable member of the LGBT community.
Well, that answers that after watching her in the news clip. Funny how you just know isn’t it.
Nah, no one cares who her ex was. But the libs are probably gonna soil themselves once they find out this new “heroine” worked to rehabilitate BP’s image after the big ol’ oil spill.
http://tinyurl.com/bprosen
Hmm. Plucky housewife who battled MS and cancer while raising 5 boys…..or shameless flack who took money from the leftards’ least favorite oil company……I have NO IDEA who most people would support in this fight…..maybe Cynical Wonder could help us figure this one out.
Well, that’s damn brave of them and her, very discriminating, especially since they can’t define the current enemy the war on man made natural disasters is supposed to be fighting. Were any of these women they’re waring on wearing burkas and blowing themselves up among infidels in a fit of religious furor?
…another Democrat distraction, yawn.
Anne has an incredible work background as a community organizer and volunteer to nonprofits, something one would think Barack and Michelle, along with the rest of the progressive left, would support (given how often they praise it above “profit seeking” drives):
http://www.womensconference.org/ann-romney/
He’s taking it personally, and he is getting deep into the mud…
From CNSNews.com:
“Speaking Friday at what the administration called “The White House Forum on Women and the Economy,” President Barack Obama said that after his two daughters were born, he and his wife—both Harvard Law School graduates—could not afford the “luxury” of having her stay home with the children.
In 2005, when Obama began serving in the U.S. Senate (and his daughters turned 4 and 7), he and his wife were earning a combined annual income of $479,062. Barack Obama was paid a salary of $162,100 by the U.S. taxpayers, and Michelle Obama was paid $316,962 to handle community affairs for the University of Chicago Medical Center.“
Except it wasn’t required that she actually show up for work. So she pulled in over 300K on a job she never actually performed or showed up for. I’d say she had plenty of resources and time to parent her children. If she didn’t that was her choice.
Don’t forget, this, “Michelle Obama was paid $316,962 to handle community affairs for the University of Chicago Medical Center,” was what is know in the Mob as a “no show job.” They must have really struggled, trying to get by on a little over $400,000/year. Wish I had that problem…
I just voted and it’s 97% to 3% at this time. I don’t think I’ve ever seen even an internet poll that was that lopsided. I think we may get our Hitler in the bunker moment from BHO before the conventions.
So when we going to see the ad playing linking Obama to Bill Ayers as he tramples the American flag then Obama to Rosen as she attacks stay at home moms then perhaps showing the apple pie being put away for save keeping.
Or I found this at Brainy Quote:
because all that stuff about Obama, Bill Ayres’ antics etc., is on the videotape of Rashid Khalidi’s going-away party. Y’know, that’s the tape the LA Times won’t release to the public, and you can’t really blame the paper after all, because it shows Rev. Jeremiah Wright repeatedly shouting at the top of his lungs – “God Damn America!” – a small band plays The Star-Spangled Banner, Bill Ayres tramples upon the American flag, while Obama stands by, at ease, both arms down, hands together, fingers clasped, calmly, quietly, and haughtily cupping his balls in contempt, just as he did when out campaigning for the nomination in 2008.
Why was John Kerry acceptable as a presidential candidate?
Obama2012, Hate and Division!
Obama 2012, Rope and Chains !
Perfect. I was thinking Dopes and Deranged, but I like yours better.
This will be a dirty, brutal campaign. Let’s enjoy ourselves. No more Mr/Ms Niceguy.
This is one of the stupidest moves the Obama campaign has made. Stay at home moms, who do an incredible amount of work 24/7, are already feeling looked down upon and disrespected by feminist liberals. This doesn’t help.
Obama is so disingenuous that he stated that he and Michelle didn’t have the luxury of having her stay home to raise the kids. He was making $162,000 a year at the time, but it seems pulling in her $300,000+ was more essential than being home with their kids. The sacrifice and dedication it takes to stay home with your kids is not a luxury, Mr. Obama. And it isn’t something only wealthy people do. Some people are willing to give up the extra car, the nice vacations, and other niceties because raising their own kids is more important to them. It’s not for everyone and woman who choose to work or have to work deserve our respect, but stop trying to make it seem like those who choose to stay home are getting manicures and eating bonbons.
I have no idea why any woman would want to vote for the man who is giving them higher unemployment, higher rates of foreclosure, larger debt for their children to bear, and less disposable income for their families. Because of free birth control? Geez, elect someone who knows how to fix the economy and you’ll have more than enough money to pay for your own birth control. Plus, maybe some extra.
So let me get this straight:
Women who elect to kill their unborn babies should not be criticized.
Women who elect to raise their own babies should be ridiculed.
Have I got that right?
The progressive slant is that women are oppressed, so if you abort a child to pursue a job you are affirming your rights and are a patriot and a role model (Remember Obama’s statement re abortion that he would not want his daughters punished for a “mistake” if they got pregnant?)
But if you stay home, you are a socially atavistic sap, and deserving of pity, if not outright scorn.
Personally, I think this is bass-akwards
That’s not quite what he said. He said he “wouldn’t want them punished with a BABY”
What the left is trying to make us believe with their deceptive and infantile and silly “war on women,” is that motherhood isn’t a proper female “choice,” which is their diabolically conceived (pun intended) word — not mine.
These people have sold their very sick souls to oppose all that is good that Nature’s God created and call that which is evil-the good.
That such stuff is so easy to do is a sad commentary on the moral anarchy that has captivated America’s soul. We have already lost -regardless of which power-seeker wins — it’s just a matter of time before our freedom is voluntarily given away for the seductive candy offered for our hedonistic and materialistic souls.We arew dealing with diabolical forces, and these folks are no longer afraid to transparently expose their evil methods and goals.
“What the left is trying to make us believe with their deceptive and infantile and silly “war on women,” is that motherhood isn’t a proper female “choice,” which is their diabolically conceived (pun intended) word — not mine.”
Wrong. Last I checked the left is trying to highlight the issues that average women deal with on a day to day basis. Average women are also working women, so it isn’t unreasonable to highlight the issues they face. Meanwhile, you have people like Scat Walker in Wisconsin repealing laws that ensured equal pay for women, and the stooges in Arizona passing three bills against women’s health (yes, three). There is a war on women and the GOP has started it, and if polls are any indicator women will win it.
“Scat” Walker. Says it all about you — just like your incredible ignorance of economics and how businesses actually work. Just have government decide what businesses have to pay their employees, and mandate what is “fair.” You’ll be on welfare in no time. Or, you can improve yourself so you can get a better paying job. The system allows this, you know — the opportunity to move up economically, according to your hard work and wishes. That’s why the system is so great. Just ask Barry Obama.
Cynical,
You have the perfect name.
Anyway, the election isn’t going to be about your Media Matters phony “War on Women”. It isn’t going to be about a phony lack of access to birth control. It’s also not going to be about your phony 1% that your puppet master pal Van Jones is orchestrating. None of those things.
It’s going to be about one main issue, the incompetence of your savior President Obama who said if he couldn’t fix the economy he would be out in three years. Well the three years is about up, we’re 5 trillion dollars further in debt, we have real unemployment and under employment running at about 14 % and an economy that is bumping along the growth bottom. We have gas prices only cents away from the highest levels ever, despite the anemic state of the economy. And to top it off your fearless leader spent the first two years of his term ramming Obamacare down the electorates throat, an act that is garnering higher negatives now than ever before. Even a majority of Democrats think the mandate should be repealed.
No wonder your cynical. I’ll bet your bitter too.
And in spite of all you said President Obama will still win. It will be a very, very bitter pill for you to swallow. My and my young buddies are already making sure that becomes a reality.
“Me and my young buddies”….? What a curious turn of phrase. It scarcely suggests that your politics are informed by a mature knowledge of the way the world really works.
Going to intimidate mote voters than usual are you? Out in the grave yard copying names?
No – the narrative that democrats have been forcing down our throats came about because an activist lesbian went to a religious school in order to force it to pay for contraception against the 1st amendment and their conscience.
THAT’s when the war on women started and never had anything to do with jobs or equal pay or women choosing to stay at home with their children. I;m forcing ou back to your false square-one.
Keep it up hun. Romney needs old pious cows like you. You’ve been so great for the gender gap.
Wow! Insults, agism and I’m a fat cow. Never been a Romney fan (I’m also not a republican) but people like you are the reason I’m no longer a democrat – and I was a lifelong democrat out of the Golden State.
See, the thing is, that Constitution does mean something to me and if I can see breaking it as a sin then brighter heads than mine can see it too. Kelo broke the constitution and this mandate breaks the constitution. Nuff said.
If the Constitution means so much to you people why do you have a problem with what Rosen said? She didn’t say anything that was untrue. Ann Romney has never worked at a job while married, if you factor out charity fundraisers at the country club and other philanthropic duties. The question is what do you people have against the First Amendment?
The first amendment allows Rosen to say what she said, and others to criticize it. One would think that was too obvious to bother noting.
Constitutionally I am calling out cynical’s so-called war on women in that it began with an activist suing a religious school to force them to provide contraception to women against the 1st amendment (religious freedom is also in the 1st amendment – not just free speech).
Cynical – I am calling you out on your so-called war on women. Liberals started it by denying a religious school the right to refuse contraception against their moral principle. You may not like it but it is none of your business.
And Rosen can say anything she likes just as we can call her a fool for doing so.
Well, “Cynical”, you just showed- or rather proved- your tue colors. The use of the phrase, “you people”, is absolute proof of an arrogant, selfish ass pretending to be reasonable. You don’t belong anywhere where the real solution of real problems is being discussed. Twit.
Keep up the personal attacks and you’ll find yourself banned.
Oh, I see. Anything that protects women’s status as women is not in the best interests of women. After 40 years of policies designed to “help women” we have literally destroyed the black family and are well on the way to destroying white ones, too. Despite women’s unfettered access to contraception, more children are born out of wedlock than in it for the first time ever in the history of this country. More women will never be married, and will be the mothers of children with serial fathers. That’s progress? That’s choice? Choice among a crappy array of options isn’t choice at all.
Women’s rights doesn’t exclusively mean believing that women have the same rights as men. Women’s rights should also include the right to BE A WOMAN which includes support for uniquely female roles. Most women still want to be married, have families and be good moms, and thanks to all that glorious “help” from the state and disrespect from the left that’s harder than ever, and triply hard on the men who would like to be part of that equation because they’re told they’re literally not necessary for anything except sperm donation.
Yes, there’s been so much progress. Any more progress and there won’t be any real support left for women at all, except insofar as they want to be just like men.
So Rosen thinks that stay at home Moms aren’t concerned about economic issues? Who does the grocery shopping at her house? Oh that’s right, Alice the house keeper.
Actually when I was growing up, it was my stay at home (ran a beauty shop in the garage) that handled the money. Dad handed over his paycheck, got an allowance and Mom concerned herself about economic issues while raising 8 kids.
why to go Dems, insult the backbone of the American family.
also worth mentioning – those consistent grocery shoppers are usually the first ones to spot inflation before most everyone else
“if the economy is getting better why do my groceries cost twice as much as they did last year?”
Men who make war on women are out of their league. That’s like throwing corn flakes at an aircraft carrier.
“Scat” Walker. Says it all about you — just like your incredible ignorance of economics and how businesses actually work. Just have government decide what businesses have to pay their employees, and mandate what is “fair.” You’ll be on welfare in no time. Or, you can improve yourself so you can get a better paying job. The system allows this, you know — the opportunity to move up economically, according to your wishes. That’s why it’s so great. Just ask Barry Obama.
I guess I’m supposed to be ashamed that I have been a housewife all of my life. A housewife who home-schooled her child, who cooked three square meals from scratch every day, who kept a perfectly organized and clean home and was a computer geek.
BULL PUCKY
Rosen has shown that this is the way it’s going to be from now until the election. It’s scorched earth all the way, because the current Coward in the White House has a lousy record to run on. And Obama IS a coward. He doesn’t even have the stones to make his own attacks. He has to get his minions to do that. And to try and take out a mother of five who is battling two deadly diseases is beyond terrible. It just shows you that from now on it’s “Chicago rules” all the way.
So, you want to play, Hilary? The Obama family is nothing but another black family being put up in public housing. Time for him to find a real job, too, in November. As for his wife, maybe she can support him and the family after he’s unemployed for a while, that is, of course, until he starts screwing around with other women. Then all bets are off and Michele will probably throw him out of the house, just like Tiger Woods’ wife did.
Had enough, Ms. Rosen? There’s a lot more where that came from. And if you want to hear more of it for the next few months, just keep on playing the game.
I can’t stand, really can’t stand, ANYBODY taking a shot at a mom staying at home and taking care of her kids, let alone five of them. The fact that Mrs. Romney is very ill too just makes this attack even worse.
That is beyond terrible for you and me and all the ladies and gentlemen of this fine forum.
Not so for the fanatical ideologists who occupy the White House today and who have, in the recent weeks and months, armed the drug cartels with American weapons to support their own campaign against the Second Amendment (and in so doing they have been accessories in the murder of a Border Patrol Agent). They have threatened the Supreme Court and they have not prosecuted the New Black Panther Party for issuing a bounty on an American Citizen.
That’s stalinism at work.
We better learn to worry about anything and everything, because anything and everything is what the (as the word says) totalitarians will attack.
These people actively support murdering babies…the rest is all a joke for them.
Attacks are in the eyes of the beholder. I don’t think it is an attack to suggest that Ann Romney, a wealthy stay at home mom (with servants to boot), isn’t especially qualified to speak on behalf of the issues that concern average women. That would be like saying Leona Helmsley is qualified to speak on behalf of migrant workers. It stings, I know, but it’s the truth. If you feel otherwise please explain in detail how that is so.
I don’t think it is an attack to suggest that Ann Romney, a wealthy stay at home mom (with servants to boot), isn’t especially qualified to speak on behalf of the issues that concern average women.
So who IS qualified to speak on behalf of the issues that concern average women?
Michelle Obama, she of the $300,000/year fake job?
Hlary Rosen, the life long lesbian activist who has made a good living on the boards of various lefty non-profits?
Cynical Wonder, what a load of tripe you just said. So I guess only rich Democrats can relate to the plight of working women. Hmmm, so I also guess that John Kerry and Teresa Heinz were really, REALLY, qualified to talk about the plight of working women in 2004. John Kerry, by the way, is one of the richest people in Congress, if not the richest. Yep, the hypocrisy on the left never ceases to amaze me.
The shot Rosen was trying to imply was, “We’re Domocrats and we feel your pain. They’re Republicans and they don’t know what pain is.” And if you can’t see how big a pile of buffalo chips that is, then you really are either a hypocrite or simply misguided.
First, Ann Romney isn’t running for office. Her husband is. I don’t care what she knows or doesn’t know. The person running for office is the one that matters. She has plenty of work to do raising five children.
Second, homemaking isn’t just for women any more. I know a few families where the women have high paying jobs and the husbands are stay-at-home Dads. What would a “progressive” party hack have to say about the suitability of such a husband in whatever office his wife runs for?
I love the idea of stay at home dads. What ever works for them.
We’re the party that has Sarah Palin and Michelle Bachman, and you wonder if we like strong women?
I was in a playgroup where easily half the mothers owned businesses. At least two of the dads stayed home to raise the multiple children.
The supposed “War on women” is just another Democrat ploy to keep the subject off Obama’s “accomplishments”.
@RobertMN
“Right. So it’s okay for the Obamas to be rich, but not the Romneys. Obama = good. Romney = bad. Great argument.”
That isn’t what I said or argued. That’s what you said. The difference between the Romneys and the Obamas is the impression that women have, as underscored by polls, that the Democrats have a better understanding about the issues women deal with and that the Republicans do not. I know the fact that women feel like this rubs you the wrong way because in your heart of heart you feel you are right and these women just don’t quite understand. That, however, is part of the problem. You people always think it’s about message. That if you just get the message right the women will follow. Maybe they don’t like the message? Has that ever occurred to you?
“So you’re telling me that you can’t use the system to your advantage, but you don’t say why. Enlighten us; tell us why we’re out of touch.”
See above.
@RobertMN
“DO tell us what the out-of-touch Republicans need to say to working women. “Just give us the power over everything, and we’ll take care of you.” You’ll be the first screaming “oppression!”
That’s a hard one, but do let us all know when you figure it out. lol
Democrat women are jealous of beautiful conservative women like Ann Romney, Sarah Palin, and Ann Coulter. Don’t discount the envy factor.
Ann Coulter is really a guy. She is a pre-op transexual.
I will admit that Ann Coulter is more macho than Obama.
I am no fan of Ann Coulter’s but that truly was uncalled for. Address her stance not her sexuality or gender. I sure hope you’re not one of those who called for R. Limbaugh’s firing after all he said about Ms. Fluke because that would be very hypocritical of you.
Misogamy & misandry is wrong regardless of what side is spews from.
ahh now name calling of another woman. i don’t care if you like coulter. i don’t particularly but i don’t lower myself to vicious name calling like you do. shame on you.
“No woman should be authorized to stay at home to raise her children. Society should be totally different. Women should not have that choice, precisely because if there is such a choice, too many women will make that one.”
Simone de Beauvoir
Friedman, a second wave feminist icon, referred to the traditional home as a concentration camp and wrote that housewives are “parasites” and “less then fully human” because they “have never known a commitment to an idea.”
Interesting. I guess raising a family is a mindless activity that involves not having any idea
This is reinforced by something I read in “Sovereignty or Submission” by John Fonte. He noted the European Human Rights folks criticized one of the eastern European states (Romania maybe) because not enough of their children were in daycare!
d’oh! That’s a quote from a research paper. I don’t have the link anymore. Someone else wrote that! And it’s a femininist paper.
There’s this really brilliant long list of malicious quotes about housewives, about wives, about mothers, all from famous femininist women.
Carole Graglia, wife of Lino Graglia, UTA law professor, wrote a book about housewives. She’s got some articles on-line about her book. She’s got the barn-burner quotes listed in her book.
For real? Romania didn’t have enough kids in daycare??????
For real – I think it was Romania. They have a government subsidy for mothers that want to stay at home, so only about 30% of children are in daycare. The human rights folks got their knickers twisted because this reinforces stereotyped sex roles and reduces sharing of parental responsibility. Amazing.
Do you think this was a trial balloon? If it went over well, they would double down. Ha, ha, just like the Catholic birth control problem, they were wrong again. Maybe it would be good to listen to a real woman instead of a lesbow next time!
People; PEOPLE;
The biggest mistake I see here is that the Conservatives responded to this leaking diaper incident all too quickly.
These Democrat Operatives have soiled themselves again, and the responsible among us tend to take action quickly to defend against the juvenile narrative being broadcast across the land.
We need to stop responding so quickly to all their adolescent castigation.
This entire episode has backfired on them, and they now know it.
If we just let them continue to soil themselves as they insist on doing, there is no response needed. The stench they emanate will become unavoidable.
Let them play in their own poop.
Totally agree, CG.
*Pops some popcorn and sits next to you on the couch*
Long………………………………………………………………………………………………. no C, Delia.
Movie style butter, con lasal!
Ms. Rosemn was not attacking moms, she was attacking a mom wh happens to be married to a sucessful man. This should come as no surprise, Ms. Rosen is simply inching forward the Obama campaign strategy of Race and Class Warfare.
His only card is to Hate, by leveraging hate of the accomplished by those who are not so accomplished and then appealing to the ‘not so accomplished’ folk’s desire to have the belongings of the accomplished folk he will achieve both ends, Class Warfare and unfortunately, axiomatically, Race Warfare.
Ms. Rosen is just bringing attention to the fact that Mrs. Romney married one of the accomplished and thus could afford to stay home and raise her kids.
I do not think it was any ‘slip of the tongue’ it was intended to incite and it has.
Score one for those who seek to divide America!
Right, Mr. B.
Divide and conquer is their formal praxis.
I hope they give it all they got.
And Hillary Rosen is so far under the bus all you can see are her feet sticking out, like the Wicked Witch under the house!
I’ll take any day a stay-home mom who raises well-adjusted, productive children over any pompous gal who believes that a 10-hour daily shift overlooking the production of grandiose jingles to sell soap or power-drinks or jeans is a much more important job.
If all she did was write lame jingles to sell soap, that wouldn’t be so horrible. But Ms Rosen did what she could to not only get Napster shut down (thanks, RIAA!), she also used her “talents” for….get this…..the libs’ fave oil company, BP.
Yeah. BP. I have NO IDEA WHY the MSM isn’t mentioning that little gem of a client.
http://tinyurl.com/bprosen
MUT’s Badass of the Week: Ann Romney — Some humorous aspects of my analysis of the Rosen fiasco: 1) A Mormon mother tagged as a “Badass”; 2) A reference to how Ann Romney will be Palinized with email inquisitions, requests for clothing expenditures, and rumors of affairs; and, 3) A hilarious pain scale, with an addendum as to how much pain Team Obama is in right now.
I heard about this first this morning. And though I believe I understand the point the woman was trying to make, it bothered me. I do not think she was attempting to “attack” SAHMs in general. I do however think it showed how presumptuous she is. She has made assumptions about the Romney family that, frankly, I do not know is freely available information.
Her comment assumes she knows whether Mr. & Mrs. Romney share information regarding their financial reality. Her point gave me the impression she believes Mrs. Romney is not only incapable of understanding how a budget works within a family but that Mrs. Romney apparently lives oblivious to her family’s financial situation. It also implied that Mrs. Romney is incapable of understanding life beyond her own front door simply because her family is wealthy and she is a SAHM
Having money does not mean one no longer has obligations or responsibilities to consider. It sure can give one more wiggle room, but that still is only as long as restraint & good measure is exercised.
And money does not mean you no longer care enough to balance a checkbook/speak to your (hypothetical) personal accountant; nor does it mean husbands & wives no longer communicate.
Me? I’m damn grateful to the Hilary Rosen, Cynical Wonder types of the world. Occasionally, they accidentally slip into honesty for all the world to hear, they blurt out the core beliefs, and the room grows silent as each contemplates the vileness of their nature.
Hilary Rosen simply said what all lib feminists think of moms. Moms are parasites – Planned Parenthood nurses are to be admired during the cut and scrape.
I am in compete agreement with Hilary Rosen and President Obama that women who stay home and raise kids have no idea what working for a paycheck is like.
As a proud out-of-the-home working woman who is a huge Obama backer, I think Ann Romney is just a lazy rich country club set type woman.
President Obama has done wonders for this ungrateful country, especially considering the mess Bush left it in, ObamaCare being in my view his greatest personal achievement.
If the Supreme Court declares it unconstitutional, any anti-universal health care voter should be impeached.
Moreover, President Obama is in the process of redistributing the wealth of this nation, and anyone who gets in his way will have to face Eric Holder because being a traitor to the President’s wishes, last time I looked, was a federal crime.
I really, really hope this is sarcasm. Otherwise, you seem to be living a singularly empty and unfulfilling life.
Sarcasm has to be handled adroitly, otherwise Liberals take them as support for their agenda.
Well, those doggone stay-at-home moms. They’re the problem. They can’t even discuss the finer points of Hegel or expound on dialectical materialism. What’s worse, they may not even want to. They’re captured in the Age of Feuilleton. Can you imagine caring more about your kid’s little league scores than the oppression of male-dominated universities? Or spending time ferrying your kids to gymnastics when you could be manning barricades in a Wall Street park? Clearly, these ladies have one central fault: they seem to love their children more than they love the collective. Why, that’s just unforgivable.
All mothers,, either working or stay at home cannot be put in either category. I have known stay at home moms who sent their children out to play for the entire day. I used to have one kid in my basement playroom every day, all day. When I sent him home he was back like a boomerang. I have also known intelligent working moms who sent their ‘known to be sick’ children to school. There is nothing wonderful about either group. Having taught school for 26 years, I can identify with the teacher. I bet she has bought plenty of kleenex for the sick with a cold kid who comes to school without any kleenex…..and his mom could be working or staying at home. I personally think the ones who work and still take care of their kids are the most admirable. My grandaughter is the mother of two very active little boys and a CSI blood spray analyst. And, since her husband is an English teacher, she cannot look forward to a life of ease. This whole stay at home or work is much ado about nothing. Republicans always jump on the bandwagon and Democrats always say the same things.
Of course women have opinions about the state of the country. They can read and listen. Ann Romney is a lovely woman but most of us are not in her fiscal position. Hillary Rosen is not a typical woman either. I bet she makes twice as much as I did as a teacher and I bet she doesn’t buy kleenex for her associates.
The Rosen attack was also a thinly veiled attack on Mitt’s religion, too. Mormons place a very high value on family; I would guess that there is a much higher percentage of stay-at-home motherhood in the LDS community.
It’s also funny that the attack is on a husband listening to his wife. Don’t the feminists constantly whine that a woman’s opinion is just as valid as a man’s?
on that feminist whine, mike!
FIVE sons and NOT ONE was raised to LOVE America enough to volunteer for the armed forces. FIVE GENERATIONS of Romneys that care only for THEMSELVES.
The Romneys wrap themselves in the American FLAG but NEVER wrap themselves in an American UNIFORM.
(1) GREAT-Grandpa Romney ran to Mexico to dodge American laws, then FLIP-FLOPPED back to America when Mexico got dangerous.
(2) Daddy Romney NEVER SERVED through WWII and Korea.
(3) MITTENS Romney used “missionary” deferments to DODGE the Viet Nam draft.
(4) FIVE sons, and NOT ONE ever wore an AMERICAN UNIFORM.
The only thing “conservative” about the Romney Family is conserving THEIR OWN BEHINDS.
Mr Romney, the grandfather, was trying to not go to jail for living out his devout religious beliefs. We might not like them, but he was trying to do right by his understanding of god, and do right by his wives. There are still polygamous families in America. There’s one on TV, there’s a few who have written books. There’s an article about a child raised plural in Mexico, in Marie Claire. Mr Romney did not sign his wives up for welfare fraud, in any case.
Mormon beliefs might not be mainstream east of the Mississippi, but they are common around the Rockies. It is, likewise, an international religion, and nearly always has been. The earliest founders would make successful missionary trips to England, Norway, Sweden, and who knows where else. These also had the salutary effects of keeping them out of the hands of American law enforcement. This worked both ways- America sheltered Methodist and Baptist preachers, as well as Irish rebels.
Society is carried forward by all sorts of men: some are soldiers, some are missionaries. We celebrate St Patrick’s Day, not “some Irish soldier” day.
Mr Richard Cheney and Mr Newt Gingrich both used deferments. A great many young men used deferments to the Vietnam War. Mr John Kerry did not defer. He is not a shining example of honor.
The military constitutes about 6% of the population, right now. Writing off the other 94% won’t really get you any traction. Even the Romans couldn’t keep the imperial purple robes wrapped only around army commander shoulders.
While I haven’t had as many personal invitations to the White House as Hilary Rosen, I’ve had my share, and my personal conversations with both the first lady and the President have confirmed their detest for stay at home moms refusal to contribute to the GNP. Which is one of the reasons the employment numbers are as bad as they are.
Every word Hilary spoke about Ann Romney I’ve heard her say in private. And every word is true as can be. Obama is glad she said it. It will serve to desensitize independent voters as personal attacks on the sick woman will we dialed up greatly as the campaign gets into full swing. By the end of it, the whole Romney family will feel like they’ve been beaten with baseball bats.
The President looks at the nation like a Marine drill sergeant looks at a recruit.
Obama needs to totally bring this country to its knees before he can, like a father, bring it under a geo-international authority. Yes, the Constitution will have to be sacrificed, but it’s a small price to pay for the socialist/Marxist principles that the United States will relatively soon be adopting.
If you notice,the main stream media is already following its marching orders, beating the drum of radical socialism, while attacking conservative opposition voices. After Obama’s plan goes into effect, which silences conservative radio and Fox News by threatening sponsors, Obama will have clear sailing toward his promise of transforming America.
If some of the people in this nation remain resistant to these changes of fairness and equity, they will find themselves in re-education classes which is the Marxist/Socialist way. In the end, they will thank us for helping them see the light.
If PJM hopes to survive, they will have to move left ideologically. This may sound harsh, but it’s for their own good.
Satire is for saps. This is the Obama agenda. You’ll rue the day if you get in its way. The new Black Panthers in Florida and Eric Holder will take special care of any opposition voices.
Do have a nice day.
Dear rachel steel,
may I respectfully suggest you spend the coming weekend readin Alexandr Soltshenitzyn’s “GULAG Archipelago’.
This may help you to clarify your confusion in regard to ‘re-education’ camps, where people are happy to learn about their mistakes. Btw – this is not a novel, it actually happened.
Come November, with the defeat of Obama, I suggest you might prefer to go into exile. North Korea is a place where you and your views are still very welcome. Not that you’ll belong to the privileged Nomenklatura there, but who knows, you may well ‘work’ your way up
Grace,
After due consideration as to your remarks, you are probably correct. Where I’m right I think is Obama’s intent (scienter) to destroy this nation. Everything he does speaks to that objective. He hates America, and loves communism. Obama is a mole in the White House. The American people actually elected a radical anti-American.
And 45% of them are ready to do it again. It’s makes me wonder if America actually is itself anymore.
You should be aware that the Obama administration has made it so easy to steal our national secrets it’s like taking candy from a baby. Half the time, the spies just stuff papers in their pants. Our missile defense system is a year away from being totally compromised. It hasn’t been already because the people who protect our secrets are not following Obama’s new protocols.
Obama’s rules of engagement in Afghanistan, by the way, are responsible for half of the U.S. casualties.
If Obama were President on Dec. 8, 1941, he’d have apologized to Japan for the 6 or so Japanese planes that were shot down.
Obama’s a traitor in every sense of the word.
I couldn’t agree more. Once you understand that he’s destroying us on purpose, it all makes sense.
I believe in survival of the fittest. We are no longer the fittest, and our civilization is doomed. I am keeping my eyes and ears open for where our best and brightest will flee.
To AHanson about a million comments above: Your hub has a PhD and has to work 80 hrs per week at 2 part-time jobs to earn $50,000? That’s either bullish*t or hubby must have gotten a useless degree in bullish*t. What’s it in, community organizing, philosophy, or Swahili?
Dealing with bratty kids? Ha! That’s what I did 20 years ago. Piece of cake. Now it’s kids with extreme emotional problems like alcoholic/druggie parents, a revolving door of temporary parents’ partners, same sex parent partners, physical and sexual abuse, neglect, parents in jail etc. The classroom is a microcosm of the serious problems in our society.
As I said, if you haven’t taught, you don’t know what you’re talking about. You quit YOUR complaining and figure out why hubby can’t get a decent job with his degree in BS.
Conservative Texas Teacher:
My point is that you are out of touch. I know many, many college-educated people who are working TWO jobs to make $50K and put food on the table. It irks me when teachers complain about their salaries and benefits. It is common for university lecturers and professors to make less than school teachers.
I wasn’t complaining about hubbie’s job. He loves his job. I’m happy for him. I was complaining about your griping and sense of entitlement.
Yes, hubbie’s degrees are in Philosophy. And you know what? He teaches courses in ethics, western civilization, founding fathers, etc.–you know, those courses conservatives complain aren’t taught enough in universities these days. And he’s no Marxist indoctrinating his students. He’s a Christian conservative.
So am I. I have no sense of entitlement and a very strong work ethic. I’ve worked since I was 18 and in the same job these last 20 years. I go to work 2 hours before I have to be there and I leave over an hour after I could leave. I try to sneak in teaching conservative values and pride in America, which involves walking a very fine line. Just as I freely admit I know nothing about what it’s like to teach college, those of you who have no idea what it’s like to teach in a public school shouldn’t sling such hate-filled accusations and assumptions around. Not all teachers are like those in Wisconsin.
And on these pages, we all complain and criticize the terrible state our country’s in. As I’ve said twice before, the classroom is a microcosm of what’s wrong with this country. It’s very stressful to have several children in a class who need me to be their mother or their psychiatrist, hold down the attention deficit and the surly, and still try to teach the ones who are there to learn. Every year the children’s emotional states descend. This year I have 10 students who are suicidal and are mainstreamed into a regular classroom with their bizarre behavior. Some of them are diagnosed psychotic and hallucinatory. They throw up or get shakes and headaches from being over-medicated. Some tell me their parents get drunk at night and punch walls. And on and on.
Don’t assume all teachers are deserving of no respect.
Once again, iPhone won’t let me proofread most of this long post.
P.S. I’ve been reading PJM for several years and have tremendously enjoyed feeling like I’m among my kind. Suddenly, ever since Wisconsin, commenters are villifying teachers. Y’all are “my peeps.” You need to quit categorizing all teachers as part of the entitlement crowd of Obama-worshipping thugs you see on TV with their buddies, the SEIU mad uncomprehending gorillas. Some of us are throw-backs to a bygone era of teachers who give a damn.
ann romney is a stay-at-home mom. well, millions of democrat mothers are also stay-at-home moms, the big difference between them and republican ann r. being that her honest devoted husband mitt is working, paying taxes and providing food, shelter, clothing, medical care for their kids while legions of deadbeat slacker donk dads are sticking us taxpayers with the childcare tab for their offspring every april 15th. how come so many of the obama nominees to federal positions got nailed during confirmation hearings for being tax cheats and had to pony up to irs with back taxes and late payment fines???
Don’t ya think when you repeat Roves talking points he should get equal billing ? If this is the best you can do, republicans are doomed !!!!!!
Thinking the unthinkable is politically correct speech; not thinking the unthinkable is a thought crime.
The only time Obama isn’t upset with women is when they’re getting abortions or doing “sex work.”
I have to snicker at the comments that you must be rich in order to be a stay at home mom, with “Legions of nannies and servants” to make the job easier. What a laugh. I’m a stay at home mom raising 3 kids on less than $40,000 a year. I stay at home because my husband and I feel it is what is best for our kids, that WE raise them, not a daycare provider. We understand that we don’t need things like a car payment, Huge cable and cell phone bills, and we don’t need to shop for name brand items. Some of the most miserable kids I meet are well dressed and have every electronic gadget known to man. Their parents sign them up for every sport and after-school activity that they can find, but they are missing out on having parents involved in their lives. Too many times I’ve gone to sports banquets, Boy Scout award ceremonies, or my daughter’s band concerts, and there are parents missing because they were too busy with their “careers” to take some time off for their children.
I was curious to see what Hillary Rosen’s children looked like. I Googled “Hillary Rosen family” and this is what I got. http://thinkprogress.org/lgbt/2012/04/12/463358/conservatives-attack-hilary-rosen-for-raising-children-as-a-lesbian/
She has apparently separated from her partner, Elizabeth Birch, and they are apparently raising the children together. I hope this works out for them and for the children. What strikes me as remarkable is that the media (the above-linked article notwithstanding) have mentioned so little about the details of Hillary’s own mothering choices. I actually think the Republicans are (for once) being smart not getting into the weeds on this…