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By any standard, the Palestinian problem involves the strangest criteria in modern history.

To begin with, refugees are defined as individuals who have been forced to leave their land of origin. A new definition of refugee status, though, was invented exclusively for Palestinian Arabs, who count as refugees their descendants to the nth generation.

All the world’s refugees are the responsibility of the United Nations High Commission on Refugees, except for the Palestinians, who have their own refugee agency, the United Nations Relief and Works Agency for Palestine. Among all the population exchanges of the 20th century — Greeks for Turks after World War I, Hindus for Moslems after the separation of India and Pakistan after World War II, Serbs for Croats after the breakup of Yugoslavia during the 1980s — the Palestinians alone remain frozen in time, a living fossil of long-decided conflicts.

Some 700,000 Jews were expelled from Muslim countries where they had lived in many cases more than a thousand years before the advent of Islam, and most of them were absorbed into the new State of Israel with a territory the size of New Jersey; 700,000 or so Arabs left Israel’s Jewish sector during the 1948 War of Independence, most at the behest of their leaders, but few were absorbed by the vast Muslim lands surrounding Israel.

Instead, the so-called refugees were gathered in camps (now for the most part towns with a living standard much higher than that of the adjacent Arab countries thanks to foreign aid) and kept as a human battering ram against Israel, whose existence the Muslim countries cannot easily accept.

Some 10 million Germans who had lived for generations in what is now Russia, Poland and the Czech Republic were driven out at the end of World War II (more than half a million died in the great displacement).

Imagine that Germany had kept these 10 million people in camps for 70 years and that their descendants now numbered 40 million — and that Germany demanded on pain of war restitution of everything from the Sudetenland to Kaliningrad (the former Konigsberg). That is a fair analogy to the Palestinian position.

It is a scam, a hoax, a put-on, a Grand Guignol theatrical with 5 million extras. Because polite opinion bows to the sensibilities of the world’s 1.4 billion Muslims, it is treated in all seriousness.

As a matter of full disclosure, I want to put my personal view on record: The mainstream view amounts to a repulsive and depraved exercise in hypocrisy that merits the harshest punishment that a just God might devise.

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The flaw in Caroline Glick's plan is that what rational country would want to absorb 1-2 million murderous death cultists? If they give them citizenship then they have to give them freedom of movement. This would negate the value of the security barrier in preventing the public bombings. Furthermore, the idea that simply freeing hthm from the kleptocracy will enable them to become peaceful pluralistic neighbors is nonsense. I met many an Arab medical student while in Israel who cheered when they saw the carnage of the bus bombings. These were not the poor, the dispossessed or the victims of discrimination but the wealthy elites of Israeli arab society.
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Fact is, an Arab professional and business class is arising in Israel (20% of medical students are Arab, for example) -- which proves that the Arabs as individuals are just as good as anyone else, and can show it once they are freed from theocratic kleptocracy.
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If the Palestinians cracked down on terrorists rather than naming streets after them, the checkpoints wouldn't be necessary. I don't like the checkpoints I have to go through every time I take an airplane (which is all too frequently) -- but they are forced on us, just as the checkpoints are forced on the Israelis. As for humiliation: are Palestinian Arabs more humiliated than Syrian or Egyptian (or Iraqi) Arabs?
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Glick's solution is only half-right, which means it is all wrong. Absorbing 1.2 million Arabs who salivate at the thought of murdering Jews is insane. Here is the correct solution, though it will be unpopular: Israel should annex Judea and Samaria and then expel the Arabs to Jordan. This was Rabbi Kahane's plan, and it is the only plan which will work in the interest of the Jews of Israel. What will the world say? The "world" will condemn Israel, which it does now anyway. You don't look to the rest of the world for permission to survive.
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As I wrote, I'm not Israeli and it's not my job to instruct Israelis on which of a set of difficult choices they should make. Caroline has done a brilliant job of illuminating the nature of the problem by defending one choice that is problematic, as many posters observe, but not necessarily more problematic than the others.
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Well as far as this essay goes now we know why Spengler wasn't too worked up about Crimea, just like the former German chancellors. Sometimes it's necessary to recognize reality and that went for the poor Serbs of Kosovo regarding their ancient heartland. One can only wonder had a better Serbian leader than Milosevic come along promising full Iraqi Kurdish style autonomy for the Kosovar Albanians if they would've taken the deal. My guess is no the Turkish and Western-backed KLA terrorism would've continued but at least Serbian honor would have been preserved and an Orthodox Slavic people would've had worthy leadership rather than a traitorous thug like Milosevic.

NATO's bombing would also have been viewed as an even less justifiable act of aggression because Russia was weak at the time (indeed, today even if Russia didn't directly threaten intervention or to arm the Serbs sufficiently to kill large numbers of NATO pilots or make any ground incursion bloody, I doubt NATO could get away with killing so many Serbian journalists and hitting so many civilian targets in the age of social media and instant YouTube uploads). I can assure all of the humanitarian interventionist crowd still ticked off that the U.S. military was so reluctant to get involved in Syria that the military planners took the threat of Assad's hidden Russian war toys far more seriously than the R2Pers in D.C did who've always assumed American military advantages were permanent.
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Again I'm not stating in the above that Assad had any hope of defeating the U.S. if Obama had opted to launch strikes without Congress. I am suggesting Assad had a greater capacity to shoot down U.S. planes and even perhaps lob an Iskander missile or two at the U.S. Marines and Army on the ground in Jordan or Cyprus than publically acknowledged. In other words, Assad with Russian weapons was more than capable of degrading America's WILL to fight in Syria by inflicting casulties in what the R2P and neocon crowds would sell as an easy peasy venture that didn't require Congress (and fanatics at the U.S. Naval War College like Tom Nichols still insist Obama would've needed none, not even a tiny fig leaf of a Congressional vote, to launch strikes).

The point is nothing outside the Kingdom of Heaven lasts forever, including Western economic and military preeminence, especially when the West is forfeiting those advantages due to globalism and the breakdown of the rule of law in the West. One doesn't get to insist national sovereignty is dead when it comes to Kosova and then screech about the sanctity of borders when it comes to Crimea, regardless of the two situations being very different (the better analogy is to the Turkish Republic of Northern Cyprus, to which NATO member Turkey has an even weaker claim than Russia does to Crimea -- yet how much has Turkey been punished for occupying N. Cyprus since the 1970s?).
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For once this site posts something accurate. There are no Palestinians!

They are mostly from Jordan. Furthermore, let's not forget why those Arabs live in territories... they lost two wars of aggression against Israel.

Israel is the only country I know that WON a war, and then they gave BACK the territory, as in the case of Egypt and the Sinai Desert, in order to make a lasting peace. Now, if Israel was willing to give back that territory after they WON the war decisively, you have to ask yourself, what is stopping the other Arabs from making peace?


(P.S. Stop Censoring Accounts From People With Whom You Disagree.)
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Spengler is generally profitable to read. Which makes it all the more startling when he goes barreling off the rails as he's done this time.
Consider what he appears to have convinced himself of: since the number of Palestinians in the West Bank and Gaza has been fraudulently inflated, there shouldn't be much to worry about if those areas were annexed by the Jewish state and the non-Jews in them made Israeli citizens.
As Orwell liked to remark, there are some ideas so absurd only a Jewish intellectual could believe them.
Who says there are many fewer Palestinians than commonly thought? Well, Caroline Glick who's never so much as taken a course in demography. And who are we asked to believe has been hoodwinked? Well, Sergio della Pergola who's universally thought to be the foremost demographer of the Jews since the late Arthur Ruppin. But never mind. Amateurs are sometimes more trustworthy than experts.
BTW, Spengler astonishes when he writes that 'The claim that “Arabs are multiplying twice as fast as the Israelis” rests on the premise that there are twice as many Arab women of child-bearing age as Israeli women.' No, it rests on the premise that however many such Arab women there are they're making more babies in toto then comparable Jewish women.
OK, anyhow, let's say Glick's right and della Pergola is either gullible or a self-hating Jew. Let's say there'd be only two and not four million non-Jews added to the pot. Two million people seething with hatred, resentment, grievances and specific plans for the future of the Jewish state, namely, its disappearance. Does Spengler think it's merely a coincidence that Omar Barghouti and the rest of the BDS crowd dream of the "one state solution"?
The separation barrier would have to come down, of course---no grounds for it if everybody is equal. Soon after which coffeehouses and busses in Tel Aviv will start blowing up again. Trust me.
Not to mention the little problems of voting rights, passports, IDF non-service, health insurance, bureaucracies, legal access, etc etc into the night.
Please, Spengler, tell us that you're jet-lagged and haven't become a member of the out-of-the-frying-pan-and-into-the-fire school of non-thought.
And if you ask me what's the solution? Beats me, boss.
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Demographics - All Israeli demographers admit there have been at least some inflations, and the fertility rates are definitely declining for Arabs and increasing for Israeli Jews.
What if as a pre-condition for Israeli citizenship a denazification were obligatory?
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It is my understanding that many muslim groups/peoples in Israel's border areas who were offered citizenship turned it down in fear of brother muslim hostilities. It seems far ferwer muslims would take up the offer than anticipated.
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That was mostly true before the Arab "Spring", esp. the Syrian one.
But Arabs from conquered territories have been happily acquiring Israeli citizenship and enjoying all the benefits.
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Well put.

And imagine that Kaliningrad, Sudetenland, etc. were referred to obligatorily as "occupied territories".
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". It was as if the democrats in America were trying to govern the US with a 52% majority in the congress."

Yes, what would stop them? Does this Hebrew University professor know what type of government the US has?
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Here's the thing:

A wandering dog walks off the street thru your open front door and pee's on the rug. What do you do? Beat the dog? No, you shoo it out, and clean up.

Its not your dog. You don't have to train it. You just don't let it in to pee on your rug again.

I support the Israeli's right to self defense, and urge them to tell the EU and the UN and JF'in Kerry to "shut the hell up, we are done with your nonsense" and by the way, "come get their dog, and keep it in their own house".
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Liberals are not good when it comes to "compared to what?" Context is like Holy Water to a vampire.
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