Yes, I know people have said things even more bigoted and stupid than dotty old Helen Thomas did the other day (not that she was any brighter before she got dotty), but I can’t help but thinking Ms. Helen felt freer to express her rancid anti-Semitism because of the times in which we live. I mean — to be blunt – the era of Barack Obama.
Consciously or not, our President — with his increased, and pompously self-righteous, pressure on Israel — has sent a message to the world. It’s time to blame the Jews. And the world, in economic extremis, is all too eager to find someone to blame.
For the ignorant Thomas – who appears not to realize Israeli Jews are not just from Western Europe, but from Egypt, Ethiopia, Syria, Yemen, Iraq and many other places — that means sending my co-religionists back to Germany and Poland. At least she didn’t go so far as to subscribe, openly anyway, to the football chant recently made popular in Europe: “Hamas, Hamas, Jews to the gas!”
You don’t need Yogi Berra to tell you that this is déjà vu all over again. And the déjà vu isn’t pretty and could get worse. The irony is that all this broke out — the merde hit the proverbial ventilateur, as they say, and the flotilla happened followed by Thomas making the coveted… or not so coveted… top spot on Drudge – right in the middle of the Obama Administration’s Schmooze-athon attempt to win back the Jewish vote that seems to be deserting it. Tough go, Rahm and company. Better luck next time.
But better luck to all of us — not just Jews. I am not the first to observe that Jews are the canaries in the coal mine when it comes to the preservation of Western civilization. And these are nervous times with those canaries getting quickly blackened.
Fortunately they have some staunch defenders — both intellectual and comic. On the other hand, there are those who pretend to defend while criticizing. These critics usually say they should be free to criticize, that it is the sign of democracy. And it is. But one wonders how they feel when hearing the vitriol spewed by Thomas.
As for myself, I wish I felt I had that luxury. Unfortunately, I don’t. The vitriol is too much, not just from one old lady, but from too many corners of the globe. This is not a time for intellectual parsing, but for action — action against anti-Semitism before we are returned to an era we thought we would never see again.
Toward that end, PJTV has put up a short survey. It asks the question “Should the White House revoke the press credentials of Helen Thomas?” I guess you already know how I voted. If you would like to vote, please go here.
The rise of anti-semitism and anti-zionism is one more symptom of Barry’s Age of Malaise. The Can’t Do Presidency has inspired scum around the world, whether running dictatorships or tinpot countries, or on street corners in the shadows of buildings their betters built, to realise that the cops are never going to come.
The whole Obama sickness is that America is now officially not answering the phone except to take bribes or curry favour with criminals. America is the supercop, the quarterback of Western civilisation and the moral arbiter of the age. When America is permanently out to lunch, the criminals and savages feel free to do and say whatever they like, whether it’s building a hatecamp at ground zero, preaching anti-semitic filth, spewing hate, threatening its democratic neighbours with war, or whatever. Until a conservative ie slow pace of change leader is elected in America, the West is literally facing immediate death. And as always, the Jewish people are the canaries in the coal mine we have all been thrown into.
It’s one thing to be a critic, it’s another entirely to be an anti-semitic lunatic.
I STAND WITH ISRAEL.
From the deck of The Rachel Corrie-
” GO BACK TO AUSCHWITZ ”
” DONT FORGET 9/11 ”
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pxY7Q7CvQPQ&feature=player_embedded
Are you sure that was from the Rachel Corrie? I thought it was from the first flotilla of six from Turkey
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kA074SqmXpE&feature=related
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b3L7OV414Kk&feature=player_embedded
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dJvvkXYD12U
http://www.bivouac-id.com/2009/06/16/attention-photos-insoutenables-gaza-un-camp-de-concentration-a-ciel-ouvert/
http://www.bivouac-id.com/2009/12/06/attention-photos-insoutenables-gaza-affamee/
For the last two links I must thank Roger L. Simon who has been doing an outstanding job of ” speaking truth to power “.
Pajamasmedia and PJTV are becoming the most important voice for truth on the web. Thanks.
Correction – The comments ” Go back to Auschwitz” and ” Remember 9/11 ” were made aboard the Marmara not the Corrie.
Mr. Nolan, Thank you for expressing my feelings so well
I like this comment, except to note that antisemitism never went away, perhaps in some circles it went underground. It is the weakness of POTUS and the multicultural position of other Wilsonian internationalist “progressives” and left-leaning liberals that makes it respectable again. Please see http://clarespark.com/2009/07/11/multiculturalists-and-wilsonians-cant-diagnose-the-new-antisemitism/. Also for a blog that demonstrated Obama’s pre-election conformity to the United Nations frame of the Arab-Israeli conflict, see http://clarespark.com/2009/09/11/oil-politics-and-obamas-view-of-israeli-history/.
And thank you, the indefatigable Roger Simon and all his supporters for this valiant effort against the forces of darkness.
Just look around…it’s practically chic to be an anti-Semite! That’s what happens when you have a “hip & dreamy” AMERICAN President pointing out the “error of your pro-Israel ways”.
Is there anyway to critique Israel without being antisemitic? Is it somehow inherent in and disagreement with Israel that it is antisemitic? Does that mean that any critique of Iran is racists as well? IS any critique of Italy anti catholic? Can someone answer this question. I am jewish and I disagree with Israels foreign policy, am I antisemitic? Please tell me.
Recently I watched a discourse between a rabid Zionist American (Kahane type) and an Israeli war veteran. The Zionist spoke of how Israel should just wipe out the Arabs in Gaza and the West Bank. He was quickly countered by the Israeli….did you fight for Israel? answer…no. Are your children in the Israeli army and have they fought for Israel…..Answers…no and no. The Israeli quickly told him…Don’t tell me what Israel should do, you don’t have the right. If your children are in the Israeli army, then you can tell me otherwise you don’t have the right.
Bryan, if you want to criticize, the same is true for you. Put your a** on the line, then you’ll have my attention. You’ll have earned the right and we will listen.
Andy, I served in the IDF. My children have served in the IDF. One day my grandchildren will serve in the IDF. And until there is true peace I hope all my descendants will do the same. Rabbi Meir Kahane was a giant. The greatest Jewish leader of his generation in my opinion. He never promoted the idea of ” wiping out ” the Arabs. He simply knew that they would not live as a peaceful minority in a Jewish country. He wanted the Arabs removed from the Land if they would not accept Jewish sovereignty. He saw the future and tried to correct the underlying problems before they grew unbearable. If R.Kahane was alive today the world would be a better and safer place for every Israeli, every Jew and certainly for every American.
Well, Brian N, it’s really very simple. If you criticize Israel but you ignore similar things that are actually going on in other countries, you’re applying a double standard and, therefore, you are being antisemitic.
That’s just one test, but a reliable one.
You are an anti-semite if…
you consider Israel to be the biggest problem in the world
you believe that Palestinian nationalism is desirable and natural but Jewish nationalism is racist
you support the end of Israel
you believe that Israel’s harvests organs from Palestinians
You are using anti-Semitic language or attacks on Israel if..
you equate Israel with Nazi Germany
you use words like Holocaust or genocide to describe Israel’s actions
you only criticize Israel’s violence and never Palestinian
you accuse Israel (or Jews) of controlling the U.S. or the U.N.
you accuse Israel (or Jews) of controlling the world banks or media
you accuse American Jews of divided loyalty or of preferring Israel to America.
you accuse Israel or Jews of being bloodthirsty
You are also using anti-Semitic language or attacks on Israel if..
- You ridicule Israel’s policies or actions by taking a backhanded swipe at the Jewish religions through using terms like “chosen people” or “Old Testament vengeance” or “eye for an eye” mentality.
- You claim that Israel (founded and governed by secular Jews) is someone applying religious doctrines in its relations with its Arab citizens, the PA or the Arab states.
If the criticisms are fair, then you are not anti-semitic.
None of your criticisms have been fair or balanced. That makes you anti-semitic. Or if your claims to being a jew are accurate, it makes you self-hating.
Underlying the actions of the Western commentators is a structural defect in the Western political position the relevance of which has escaped virtually all of them. We all know that the US is the fulcrum of balance in the World. And especially in the Middle East. And YET, the “Head of State” of the US. is a man of unknown provenance despite the fact that there are PROOFS necessary in the Fundamental Law, the US CONSTITUTION for election to that office. This man has REFUSED to provide those proofs. AND FAR MORE SIGNIFICANTLY, NONE OF THE AGENCIES, COURT OR CONGRESS, under their obligation in the Separation of Powers, has required him to provide evidence that he meets the necessary LEGAL qualifications. Preferring to despise the question as the creation of a “bunch of loonies”.
BUT one can see, as you have said, that he and his allies in the Congress are in a mighty rush to dismantle the entire structure of the Nation, going so far as to state that the US Constitution is “defective” Failure to require evidence of this man’s lawful qualifications to hold the office of President of the US, with its power to decide the fates of millions world-wide suggests a dissonance of magnificant proportion. LIKE IT OR NOT, the Constitution clearly requires natural born citizenship. This man has been accepted, despite the varieties of stories of his provenance, at his word. Do none of the officials in the Congress and Courts of the US find this at the very least curious?
Roger,
Sadly, many of the “canaries” (Jews) in the USA are socialists themselves and, especially in Hollywood and academia, seem to gladly throw their fellow Jews into the hands of tyrants. I love the tenacity of Israel and their friendship with the “real” America. But the Jewish community here, also “canaries,” better wake up and dump Marxism. I’ll help Israel all I can but Jews must wake up and spit out the socialist poison. Thanks for your work. We need you!
There are a number of appropriate words to describe those who would turn on others in order to save themselves. Quisling, Judas, turncoat, collaborator, colluder, betrayer are all good descriptions of the Jews in the USA who have turned on Israel and actively support the “cause” of the Arabs.
My favorite description for the Rahm Emmanuels of the world is kapo. Because any Jew who works that closely with the collection of genocidal enemies of Israel that have formed in this administration can only be compared to the Jews who helped the Nazis exterminate Jews.
yes, it is berlin in the ’30′s. just today le monde reported that french police told jewish leaders to tell jews to go “straight home”after prayers. apparently, this was because of fear from moslems rioting, especially in jewish neighborhoods.
as far as obama, he began his campaign for president by stirring up race hatred between blacks and whites, making all sorts of crazy accusations that had no credibility in fact, for the last fifty years at least.
he stirred the pot once again by licking the a$$ of every middle eastern thug and despot giving them good reason to believe they should destroy the jews. then, his flaccid and impotent response to iran, made it clear to them that he’s with them. and, he is. either he is moslem and or his personality disorders and co-morbid conditions have revealed themselves (as if we didn’t already know this)
helen thomas, is old and like jimmy carter, she has dementia. it happens. she should have her press credentials and her driver’s liscence taken away.
the difference between berlin in the ’30′s and now is that israel has the power to kill,
so if we are attacked, the whole world will end up in the same gas chamber.
Exactly, this time around, the ghetto is armed with nuclear missiles.
“Exactly, this time around, the ghetto is armed with nuclear missiles.”
It won’t make a difference. Muslims hold their own lives cheap and infidel life as worthless. They will gladly lose 500 million of their own to finish Hitler’s work.
And the Europeans are dying anyway, they want to see their 2000-year old goal of a Judenrein world when they finally expire.
Both consider killing Jews more important than their own lives.
It is only a matter of how much of the world Israel can take down — my guess is that if they target Russia (as people thought they would do in 1973), Putin will do the rest.
Eric R. writes: “Muslims hold their own lives cheap and infidel life as worthless. They will gladly lose 500 million of their own to finish Hitler’s work.
And the Europeans are dying anyway, they want to see their 2000-year old goal of a Judenrein world when they finally expire.”
Absolutely spot-on. Especially the part about Europe. This is infantile spite from a dead civilization. How dare those pesky Jews survive and thrive, when Europe is sliding into self-induced, petulant brain death.
By posting odds in a Jews-against-the-world armed conflict, the nations forget that God is in charge. The Jews are God’s chosen people, and as such, recipients of his favor. Putin and the Muslim dictatorships are no match for God. The battle, in fact, is already over and the results tabulated. It’s all right there in God’s book, the Bible.
Yes! And what a shock to the world when it happens.
Jews are God’s chosen people. God gave a promise to Abraham that through your descendent world will be blessed. I am not surprised at the hate of the world towards Jews. Who can fight against God. Jews will always will be blessed. Even though I am not Jews but I know God’s promise is true for ever.
All that’s going on reminds me of Psalm 2. Why do the nations rage and the peoples imagine a vain thing? The kings of the earth rise up and the rulers take counsel together against the Lord and His anointed. But in verse 4…He Who sitteth in the heavens shall laugh; the Lord shall have them in derision.
It’s a bit scary seeing prophecy fulfilled in these days. I believe the outcome will be just and glorious just like the Word says, but in the meantime my head reels with all the hatred and chaos going on worldwide and so much of it directed at Israel. It keeps me in prayer.
Eric R.
Granted that Muslim leaders would sacrifice millions of Muslims to achieve their aims, they value VERY highly their own lives.
how much do they value Mecca? I’m sure that would get incinerated too.
Terry,
You surely realize that the Iranian mullahs have prepared bunkers in which to ride out this apolcalypse.
The Iranians have a choice — overthrow the mullahs and die by the tens of thousands now, or face 25 hydrogen bombs from Israel and die by the tens of millions later.
Right on, Terry.
In this hour of 1930s-like fear, which I share 100%, I’d like my fellow Roger L. Simon readers—one of your best posts ever, Mr. Simon—to recall the words of some of Israel’s past leaders:
Golda Meir: “We have always said that in our war with the Arabs we had a secret weapon—no alternative.
Menachem Begin to then-President Reagan: “My generation, dear Ron, swore on the Altar of God that whoever proclaims the intent of destroying the Jewish state or the Jewish people, or both, seals his fate.
Moshe Dayan: We are a generation of settlers, and without a steel helmet and the cannon we cannot plant a tree and build a home. Let us not shrink back when we see the hatred formenting and filling the lives of hundreds and thousands of Arabs, who sit all around us. Let us not avert our gaze, so that our hands shall not slip. This is the fate of our generation, the choice of our life—to be prepared and armed, strong and tough—otherwise the sword shall slip and our life will be snuffed out.”
Let’s see, Obama a Muslim, C’mon Judy.
How could he be a Muslim while appointing a stud Zionist Jew, like Rahm Emanuel, as his Chief of Staff?
Another Jew is his White House Chief Advisor (David Axelrod)
He just nominated a Jew to the Supreme Court (Elena Kagan)
Well, with that said, I surely understand your apprehension about Obama. He is surely no George W. Bush. Well, George W. Bush watched his Dad, Senior Bush, picks a fight with Israel over the Loan Guarantee and watched closely how the Lobby ostracized his Dad. The junior Bush knew his limitation and decided to bend over to Sharon and Olmert and be Israel’s best friend. Well, let’s think of a way to bring Obama to his knees in 2012. I am sure that AIPAC will think of some thing by then.
Again, Israel should have no fear no more, just hand the Israeli nukes to a deranged fascist like Avigdor Lieberman and watch him blow the gentiles to pieces without a hick up. In an open contest for the world most dangerous psychopath, Avigdor Lieberman beats Ahmadinejad of Iran for the first place.
There is an irony that Ahmadinejad may acquire a nuclear bomb soon, however, no one seem to notice the irony that Avigdor Lieberman already has over 200 nuclear bombs at his disposal.
Clear View. Obviously not so clear, maybe you need glasses, real ones instead of the looney-left variety. Let’s take your points one by one.
Obama is a Muslim = Well, both his fathers were Muslim, he spent his early years in Indonesia where he attended Islam classes & learned the Qur án. His extended family are Muslims, including his grandmother who recently made a pilgrimage to Mecca. According to Islamic law, he is indeed a Muslim. He attended the Rev. Wright’s church for 20 yrs – considering the Rev. Wright’s teaching, that’s not very Christian in any meaningful sense of the word. So, when did he convert to Christianity? My own opinion is that he is a Narcissist or an Opportunist but this does not make him much of a Christian. Most certainly, he believes in Big Gov’t. (if not worse) but much as Leftists find it difficult to comprehend, Big Gov’t. is not G-d, although Muslims do believe in something similar. So, all things considered, while he may not be a Muslim officially, he might as well be since he certainly acts like one (including the Taqiyah).
Obama’s ‘Jews’ are Jewish by birth, but not by any sympathy or connection to their race’s homeland, Israel. As such they are quite typical of Jewish-American, old-money liberals. What American Jews do not realize is they too are being be sold out (along with Israel, by Democrat leftists) and will be offered up in the second coming of the Holocaust.
In some ways it’s funny.
Many people of Jewish decent, believe that if they cozy up to the Jew haters enough, deny their heritage enough, they will be spared when the next Auschitz’s are formed.
But as clearview demonstrates, to those on the left, a jew is a jew is a jew. The quislings may not be the first to be fed to the ovens, but they will indeed get their turn.
Clear View.
Next is your contention that if he was Muslim, he wouldn’t have Jews in his inner circle. You mention Rahm Emanuel & Axelrod. Well, Emanuel & Axelrod may have been born Jews but they are now Leftists, hardly the ”stud Zionists” you pretend they are. For most Jews, even many liberals, they are traitors, turn-coats, worse than just ”useful idiots” – and, sadly, we have a number of such highly visible jerks who use their Jewishness as a weapon against their own people.
Hey Buddy Terry-Eilat,
You can’t cherry-pick when it comes to Zionists and label them as left/right. They are Zionists working for the cause; there are no bad Zionists and good Zionists. Ben-Gurion was on the left, would that make him less valuable the Likudist jerk Bibi Netanyahu?
Many contend that the state of Israel is a socialistic left wing experiment. Look at the socialistic healthcare system you have. Look at the way of life at the Kibbutz; it resembles the old Soviet collective farms.
It seems to me that you are a chauvinistic Jew who sees the world through Black/White lens only, like Avigdor Lieberman.
I personally believe that Rahm Emanuel and David Axelrod are good Jews and good Zionists. They are serving Israel from the White House. Who is the hell are you to claim otherwise?
What planet do you live on? Perhaps in your little mind they are “good jews”. The fact of the matter is they disgusting lying thugs who belong in jail. They are serving nobody but themselves.
Clear View.
By an irony of history, the ”founding fathers” of our state were indeed socialists; most of our current problems trace back to that fact. When Israel was a poor rather unsuccessful failed socialist experiment, the Left loved us. Then came the Six Day War, & by that time, we were already quite capitalist, we are even more capitalist now & very much more prosperous. But, because we were no longer poverty stricken socialists & even worse, victorious in a war against our feudal Third World neighbors, the Left came to hate us, much of the propaganda against us instigated by the anti-Semitic Soviet Union.
The Kibbutzim today are all capitalist enterprises, some rather successful, others, slowly dying out, many of their members just old Labour supporters by habit.
I can see that you identify just being a Jew as somehow an ”evil Zionist” which only proves the point that anti-Zionism is just the other face of anti-Semitism.
You call me a chauvinist which actually means that I am a patriot so I accept the compliment. One of the reasons I am so ”chavinistic” is that I’m originally from an Arab country, actually a recent immigrant to Israel so in a very real sense, my attitudes are quite Middle-Eastern.
So all Jews are zionists?
I could have sworn that the standard line was that the left isn’t anti-jew, just anti-zionist.
Thanks for clearing up that little dichotomy.
Clear View.
Your comment on the powerful ”Jewish Lobby” is not worth much of a comment, it’s just an anti-Semitic canard. Say, how do you feel about the Saudi Lobby?
What do you have against Avigdor Lieberman? I’d say that your comparison to Ahmadinejad is, let’s say, over-the-top. Lieberman is no fascist, he’s actually more centre-right. By describing him thus, you forfeit all consideration as someone credible.
Maybe you should post your crap on the Huffington or the Koshole site where it would be more appreciated.
Hey Again, Terry-Eilat,
Your extremist views places Israel in clear danger. Denying the existence of “strong” Jewish lobby in the USA only inflames the Conspiracy Theorists. You can’t deny the obvious, the internet is buzzing with those who raise all kind of conspiracy theories about the “Jews Controlling America”.
It is more conducive, that the fact about the powerful Jewish Lobby is discussed in the open. Sharon didn’t try to hide it:
“Every time we do something you tell me America will do this and will do that… I want to tell you something very clear: Don’t worry about American pressure on Israel. We, the Jewish people, control America, and the Americans know it.”
–Israeli Prime Minister Ariel Sharon (speaking to Shimon Peres, as reported on Israel Radio [in Hebrew, Kol Yisrael], 3 October 2001)
Now, do you think that people don’t read this on the internet? Was Sharon Anti-Semite too?
I’ll answer you later – I have to go out for coffee with friends to the exceptionally beautiful Eilat beachfront on the Red Sea. On that beachfront, our ”apartheid state” has secular Jews, religious Jews,Russian immigrants, Bedouins, Muslim Arabs, Christian Arabs, Cherkessim (I think that’s Circassians in English), Sudanese African refugees, French tourists, assorted other tourists, all wandering around freely, relaxing, having coffee, shopping at the Mall, & otherwise having a nice time.
I usually don’t respond to truther loonies and jewhaters, in this case one who thinks JEWS are responsible for changing the minds of morons who believe lies.
BUT the SHARON quote is a phony as $3 dollar bill and the Protocols of ZION–
also fully debunked at camera dot org
but like most of the SPEW from your type, TRUTH will be ignored and LIES repeated Goebbels style, over and over and over again
Explaining reality to a conspiracy nut just makes them mad.
There is some truth to that statement. I’ve been round and round with both truthers and birthers.
Clearview – Cut the cheap shots. Everyone knows that what you and other phonies have written about Ariel Sharon and what he never said is a lie made up by a pro Palestinian group to suit their cause.I hope you don’t believe me because I want you to follow up my statement on camera.org.They’ll help clear the truth up for you Clearview. The lie was written in Georgie Anne Geyers syndicated article in the Chicago Tribune,later retracted by the Chicago Tribune, and shown finally all to be instigated by a Pro-Palestinian media group.My what a surprise. Do you guys ever write anything positive, or are you going to blame the powerful Jewish Press for deleting all of your nurturing remarks?
Clear-View: Bismarck took his personal banker (a Jew) with him to Paris at the close of the Franco-Prussian War. Albert Ballin (Jewish) was CEO of the Hamburg-Amerika Line (now HAPAG-Lloyd). Fritz Haber (Jew) developed the process for isolating nitrogen from the atmosphere, thereby allowing Germany to fight on in 1914-18 notwithstanding the Allied blockade of all natural sources of the element. All were men of wealth and influence in their day; Ballin was intimate with Kaiser Wilhelm II. They were the pinnacle of the Hofjuden — the court Jews. By the 1930s something like half of all German Jews “married out.” The officer who recommended Corporal A. Hitler for his Iron Cross (2d Class) was Jewish. And not a bit of any of that stopped the European embrace of annihilating the Jews. After all, let’s not forget how *joyfully* the populations of the occupied countries, including especially and specifically Poland and France, joined in the round-ups. In fact, if memory serves there was only one country — Bulgaria, I think (although it may have been Romania, I’m working on recollection here, folks) — which went out of its way NOT to pull on an oar and implement Hitler’s Final Solution. When will Emanuel, Axelrod, Kagan, and the rest of them wake up and realize they’re nothing more than Hofjuden, fools and lick-spittles who flatter themselves that if they’ll just hold on tightly to such crumbs of power as the Obami of the world let them, somehow all will come aright and it won’t be their fault? Israel as the homeland of the Jewish people has a claim on us which is both moral and political. It has a moral claim because the rest of us — especially France, Britain, and the Eastern European countries bordering Germany — stood idly by and allowed the rise of a man who made no secret of his intentions with respect to the Jews. Yep; that moral claim is still there, and will always be there: 6 million corpses are one of those “inconvenient truths” that just won’t go away. Israel has a political claim on us because like it or not they’re the only pluralistic democracy in that part of the world . . . by a long shot. Israel, in which an Arab can run for and be elected to the Knesset, along with any damned body else who wants to run, is a perpetual rebuke to its neighbors. Israel may not be the “last, best hope of the earth,” as Lincoln (correctly) described the America of the 19th Century, but it’s certainly the last, best hope of a part of the world that has never in its recorded history seen the like of the state of Israel, and that desperately needs to embrace that model of society. And we have a president who is very intentionally choosing to “meanly lose” that hope. In 150 years we’ve come from Lincoln to The Won; Ozymandias, anyone?
It was Bulgaria. They were big-time anti-Semites but the Bulgarian church was against deportation. Almost all of the 50,000 Bulgarian Jews made aliyah to Israel.
And, let me add, your post is right on. The Muslims won’t distinguish between the ”good” leftist Jews & the right-wing extremists like me. They want to kill us all.
I wonder if the Jewish love of the left and Obama is changing? It seems that Jews have had a majority on moving our country closer to socialism. Maybe they will wake up and understand that the people who want a communistic US are the ones who will sell the Jews down the road. History demonstrates that in countries that have a strong central government, Jews don’t seem to thrive.
I might indicate to some of the commenters that our country was not founded on socialistic principles. These came only after Lincoln and his significant remake of our government. The South was actually the freer society.
[EDITOR'S NOTE: The comment about Lincoln above barely passed the approval mechanism of this site. There should be no justification ever for slavery. Anyone who does so is abhorrent.]
Rumania saved part of her jews since in the east there was a policy of no deportations.
well editor you may like to look at Linclon’s top general- who expelled JEWS from the North- yes GRANT issued his own JUDENREIN decree- many JEWS fought with the confederates and were targeted by Grant tropps after the towns were lost and occupied
http://www.lewrockwell.com/orig3/regenstein8.html
to be fair- many other issues surrounded the Civil War not just slavery
Albanian Muslims and Greek Orthodox also protected their JEWS from Hitler
Bulgaria is not blameless; they deported 10,000 Jews in Macedonia, which they occupied for most of the war.
I don’t read the Lincoln statement as being a defense of slavery. He was saying that the political conditions in the north meant that there was less slavery in the north than in the south, despite slavery existing in the south.
The statement is wrong, but it isn’t a defense of slavery.
If anything, he is trying to compare servitude to a powerful govt, to slavery.
Some other Euro’s of note who did not embrace the annihilation of European Jewry:
1. The Danes — King Christian donned the Yellow Davidstar in solidarity with Danish Jews, and
directed his countrymen to do so, as well.
2. The Serbs — never accommodated themselves to the German occupation (unlike the Croats and
Bosnians), and were slaughtered together with their Jewish neighbors in the Vojvodina
cleansing.
3. The Italians — The Italian military declined to participate in deportations from Italy proper
or their occupation zones in Yugoslavia and Greece. It was after the Italians capitulated in
1943 that the Germans intervened and began direct round-ups and deportations, often over Italian
interference and non-cooperation.
The French, pfeh, they didn’t even wait for deportation directives from the German Occupation authorities. What would you expect from the people who betrayed Joan of Arc to the English?
Roger,
We owe a debt of gratitude to Helen, Jeremiah, and a growing list of guileless friends of Barry, along with the Commander in Chief himself with his “clingers” comment and other suchlike, who have done us the great favor of speaking out of school.
Yours truly,
Neobuzz
You have to keep in mind, at all times, that this is the Homer Simpson Age. What the dummy dhimmis out there see the puppets do, they will copy. The rise of anti-semitism is always an indicator of an underlying coarsening of life and decay of culture of all kinds.
I take exception to that — Homer Simpson may be a dummy and a bit of a sluggard, but he’s not a bigot.
And if he ever acted like one, Marge would set him straight.
My own take on Israel’s predicament — the Jews are so much more sympathetic and compelling dramatically
when they are lining up meekly for the cattle cars (“Schindler’s List”), than they are armed and
aggressively defending themselves (“Munich”).
I second the motion. Helen Thomas is the MSM’s version of “Joe the Mouth” Biden. That is, you can always count on her determination to prove that she’s The Smartest One in The Room to lead her to blurt out something that all the “smart, sophisticated people” in her crowd believe- that they don’t want the rest of us to know they believe.
In that sense, she qualifies as a “useful idiot” in more ways than just the usual definition of the term.
For the record, I’m long past being outraged by this sort of thing out of the “enlightened elite’”. However, I do note that they apparently believe that their power is so unchallengeable that they can openly say what they think of the rest of us (Jew, Gentile, “bitter clinger”, etc., whatever) and not have to worry about any consequences.
It’s the equivalent of the school bully flipping you off in front of a teacher, who doesn’t react. The bully’s next step will probably be a bit more direct, and physical.
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Socialist American Jews denigrate as rubes and idiots the very servicemen that are the only force standing between them and the horrible murder of themselves and grand kids. They are, truly, mentally ill.
Mr. Obamas outreach to the Muslim world has had the effect of giving a green light to the anti semites. You are right Mr. Simon we do live in dangerous times,something horrible seems to be on the horizon. I pray Mr. Obama realizes this and tones down his anti-Israel rhetoric.Twenty years in Rev. Wright’s church does not give me hope.
Yes, Obama’s poodle Foreign Policy is exciting the dogs of war.
He would have done better to have Cesar Millan as an adviser.
I went to see Bat Ye’or in Toronto last night, my God.
I am convinced something very bad is about to happen.
Jews and Christians must make an alliance. Liberal Jews must
awaken. I read Spengler the other day couple that with Victor Davis Hansons
observatons, and something that will shake the foundations of our civilization is about to go down.
Maryann, Bat Ye’or is NOT exaggerating, nor speaking in hyperbole.Things are about to get nasty-and soon. Fellow Israelis are receiving delivery of their gas masks…..IF that isn’t a hint, then I don’t know what is.Many civilians have ‘contingency’ plans, our soldiers are preparing in warp speed, reservists have their bags ready to go and the air is palpable, despite the outward appearance of business as usual to those who don’t understand the Israeli nuance.
The US will not escape the fallout of BHO’s DANGEROUS re-alliances of American interests. At the same time, since all my loved ones here are in harms way, I haven’t too much time to worry about deluded fellow Americans.I hope that those who wish my people well will also take special care of themselves.
A word to the wise – prepare for BHO to tighten the screws on your liberties.Marshal law may be in your future-a crisis should NEVER be wasted!
Marshal Law? You should be so lucky.
Schools and teachers have dumbed down the American public for so long even our oldering “elites” are dysfunctional citizens (e.g., =:0bama and Rahm and the Czars). The hoi polloi are movie-TV-trained mouth breathing videobots.
The disgusting Mr. Freud had a few things right, they were too obvious to not be.
Dreams ARE wish fulfilment. Movies, YOUTUBE, videos are dream fragments whose innuendos educated generations of young since the 60s when image overcame storyline.
Don’t think Marshal Law — you better believe Mad Max! That’s one of their dreams they actually want to fulfill.
Pedantic point of the day: It’s “Martial,” not “Marshal” law.
Since today is the day to be pedantic,
“The hoi pelloi” is redundant.
I believe you’re right. Obama and the Left has no intention of ever leaving. I may have voted in my last free election.
To be fair, the left said the same thing about Bush the younger.
Prayers to you and yours! Hang on tight! Godspeed!
Please know that the vast majority of Americans are on your side. We haven’t forgotten the reasons we sent our boys to fight tyranny in Europe.
My wife and I pray for the peace of Jerusalem every day. We will continue praying for you welfare. We stand with Israel.
During the first gulf war, many Israeli’s were issued gas masks as well.
That said, I too believe that the shiite is about to hit the fan.
It seems the rise of anti-Semitism among the “intellectual” Left (oxymoron) has been going on for years. Now it’s reached a fevered pitch. May Israel stand strong against its opposition, and, if provoked, take Lebanon and half of Syria and resettle the Palestinians in those territories if necessary.
No one who defends Hamas “aid” or supports the Palestinians in their intransigence, is entitled to be defined as “intellectual”. They are both ignorant and irrational.
I like Dick Morris’s take: If the Arabs were to lay down arms against Israel there would be peace in the Middle East. If The Israelis were to lay down their arms, there would be no Israel.
hat said, I am dumbfounded that the Israelis played so simple-mindedly into the trap set by the Iranian-client “activists”. My faith in their smarts has been seriously shaken. They should never taken a course which, successful or not, was certain to be capitalized on by the anti-semitic forces, forced into a defensive posture.
The Israelis most certainly did not fall into anyone’s trap. They merely called the bluff of Palistinian terrorists and their world-wide apologists…including the simple minds that inhabit the U.S. State Department. After all, Israel is not concerned (at this point) about “public opinion”, as it is far too preoccupied with mere survival.
Helen Thomas: JUDEN RAUS!!
It is like the thirties and like all the times before. I agree with #6 Pedro. There’s a bad moon rising and something horrible seems likely to happen. Wake up all those Jews who are socialists first and Jews second. Wake up all those gentiles who think that Helen Thomas is just some batty old broad whose opinions are confined to her alone. Wake up all those lefties who think antisemitism equals progressive thinking. The unclean barbarians are on the march and looking for Jews.
Criticism of Israel = anti-Semitism?
Criticism of Obama = Racism?
Oh so you wanna play equation games eh, perto?
Support of Obama = hatred of Israel?
Hatred of Israel = support of Obama?
petro,
Criticizing Israel is not anti-Semitic but criticizing Israel only – is.
Saying that Jews should go back to Poland and Germany where they were slaughtered is anti-Semitic.
Well-written piece, Mr. Simon. But terribly depressing. If we are in the 1930s, how do we get out?
Roger,
What did Wooden say? Talent is man given; be humble. Fame is man given; be grateful. Conceit is self given; be careful.
Okay, got that. But where does hate for the Jews come in? Is that answer simply baked in to the mix; to the cornucopia of human experience? Or to put an “ful” ending to it, is the word, “acceptable?” If it is, may God have mercy on us all.
Press credentials for Helen Thomas? I don’t think at her age we should revoke them. I think the public should hold her up to public ridicule, and simply shun her into oblivion. If you want to revoke them, though, it’s okay with me.
I think a bigger problem is, as you suggest, Obama because the President sets the hate tone; and he’s surely in harmony with the world wide desire to see Israel reduced to ashes.
Which is something I have an immensely hard time understanding; it doesn’t compute that a people who just desire to live should be told they are rats that deserve to die.
Roger, I am more confused than ever before because what I think should be self evident doesn’t seem to be. Self evident. Isn’t that a 200 plus year old term that’s still in use today? Literally, I feel out of touch with the mainstream, not just the media, but mainstream American because I feel I no longer know what they think, what they believe in, what they stand for. Suddenly I feel like a stranger in a strange land.
How many unborn must we kill before six million every six years is enough? Is the thirst for killing Jews so pronounced these days because over the past sixty or so years there’s been such a drought of concentration camps? Just when I started to associate the word, oven, with microwave, my mind hears what sounds like fond remembrances of Treblinka and Auschwitz and other places on the Nazi Nostalgia Tour. That Helen Thomas makes a good tour guide is obvious. But I’m afraid our President, if had his drouthers, would be handing the soap out for the showers.
Have we forgotten the 1972 Olympics so soon? It will be ringing in my ears my whole life. Jim McKay saying, “They’re all dead.”
Roger Simon, between the pictures of the dark, oily fish and fowl and the pictures and sounds of people all over the world who want Jewish heads to roll, I’m left shell shocked. I wrote an article today that talked about my country being on what seems like a Bataan Death march. And eight hours later I couldn’t tell you if it was well written or a hodgepodge of thoughts.
Roger, then your headline hit me in the face. I feel like I’m in the middle of a nightmare. What to do about Helen Thomas? I don’t have any answers anymore I guess. I feel so empty inside. And so very sad.
Amen to all you wrote, sister. I feel like I’ve indeed woken up in another land…a land I’ve never known.
13. Rachel Peepers: Read the newly published book “The World Turned Upside Down: The Global Battle Over G_D, Truth and Power” written by Melanie Philips (An agnostic Jew). The truth will become self evident, particularly for moral Jews and true Christians. Facts in the book regarding Palestine were new to me and astonishing. And, I consider myself an informed pol.
“Those who do not learn from history are condemned to repeat it.”
The belligerent ignorance of history and reality by people like Helen Thomas and our Apologer-in-Chief Obama just infuriates me.
I posted some thoughts on my blog earlier tonight about the current situation in Israel, and a short history lesson from my time studying abroad in Germany.
http://www.sunshinestatesarah.com/2010/06/krauthammer-on-israel-and-history.html
(I’m pretty new to blogging and would love any comments or suggestions, thank you)
Mr. Simon,
How do we view the results of the poll?
“Criticism of Israel = anti-Semitism?”
She didn’t “criticize Israel”, you halfwit. She effectively said Jews should go back to Auschwitz.
Helen is Lebanese so shes always been pro Arab. In Helen’s world, Jews didnt arrive in the middle east until the 1940s.
It is just a matter of a short while before Israel pre-empts the Iranian genocidal regime.We all know this to be true, even if we deny the reality of it.
While rational, clear thinking people realize, the regime under BHO is allowing for the anti-semites to come out of the closet, the real action will not be centered in the US-at first-but in Israel. To wit, our foces will-yes, they will-hit the targets in Iran with low yield nukes.
Our leaders(appeasers as they often are) understand full well the dangers of NOT getting the mission right.Therefore, at first blush, the world, including BHO, will come down like a ton of bricks on Israel for daring to save their people. Regardless, the deed will have been done, and we will face the backlash on our homefront.
HOWEVER, within that time frame Jews world over, and in the US too, will witness an upsurge in anti-semitism, the likes of which will mirror the 1930′s.The difference being, this time their homeland will be standing, battered and bruised, but standing, and those who dare think about destroying us again will be cowed into STUNNED silence.
Taking charge of ones own destiny has a way of forcing people to fear you, and THAT is a good thing-at least for the Jews!!
Helen Thomas needs to be confined to a dementia ward.
Good idea. She would fit right in @ MSNBC.
“She didn’t “criticize Israel”, you halfwit.”
I was talking about this:
“Consciously or not, our President — with his increased, and pompously self-righteous, pressure on Israel — has sent a message to the world. It’s time to blame the Jews.”
Support for Hamas–with its genocidal charter–qualifies as antisemitism. And Obama has collected quite a following of Hamas supporters over the years. And just with a few quislings like Emmanuel as cover.
Guilt by association never goes out of style.
One is known by the company they keep as well as the people they hire. 20 years in a bigot’s church describes much of the man.
Excuses for leftists mistakes and murders never seem to end either.
And yet…an overwhelming majority of Jewish Americans vote for the Democrats year in, year out.
And this justifies a wish for all Jews to die?
It’s not quilt by association when you actively are promoting the same agenda.
I took the survey. In re: question #3, I can only agree somewhat that Israel responded to the “flotilla” correctly.
For the 5 ships that waved off, I agree that they acted completely appropriately.
For the 6th ship, as soon as the “crew” (or whatever they’re calling it) started attacking the soldiers, I would have sent the remainder in guns blazing to drive the attackers back, retrieved the men already on board, and then sunk the ship.
Isn’t that the point of a blockade? Ships approach and either turn away or are sunk. Since the people on that ship wouldn’t turn away and initiated combat hostilities, they should have been sunk as a blockade runner, since that’s exactly what they were. Show the world what it truly means to try to run a blockade. Somehow I don’t think even the most moronic “peace activists” would try it more than twice.
Yeah, I know. Not that simple since it’s guaranteed that the country the ship is flagged under would be sure to call it an act of war. How is it that politics always intrudes so badly in to situations that should be clear cut?
While I did not like the way Isreal dropped men on board one by one to get attacked- and yes I would’ve liked to sink them but that scenario would have played right into the terrorists hand- and given them the EXACT propaganda coup & pictures they desired- THEY WANT TO BE KILLED for the cause- they prepared their wills ahead of time- they attempted suicide by cop (in this case Israeli army) they hoped MORE would die- what part of that do people not understand?- It is a no win- lose/lose situation –Israel is dealing with people who prefer DEATH to LIFE in order to destroy Israel (AND JEWS to my thinking the same)
As for EU no shots, no terror acts will be required- our enemy may be hateful but not stupid, they are quite cunning- the overthrow of EU and then USA is proceeding on schedule- they realize terrorist acts make people dislike their cause- they think that JEWS have won hearts and minds by gaining other type of power- and so they are copying what they think JEWS did- they will use laws, political interventions and yes protests , educate our kids in their propagandas,the stories they create attempt to parallel JEWS stories, to get sympathy by playing victim, nevermind one really was victim and they just pretend, they multiply like rabbits, act like parasites, make legal challenges, use civil rights and religion laws to shield their treasons – the takeover will not require one single bomb- and it is working – they have won hearts and minds- and a sympathetic prez (in the case of USA), media and entertainers, and a formerly centrist DEM party is now in their corner, the socialist left were always on their side
#21 Magson
The Israelis proved in no uncertain terms that Turkey is now Islamist. That’s valuable information. Any country helping the Turks in NATO, etc., is helping the enemy. Let’s hope the Turkish military can kick out the Jihadist government, but it may no longer be possible.
Obama bowed before the King of Arabia, where Christianity and Judaism are outlawed. So, nothing that comes out of this administration should surprise anyone. Helen Thomas fits right in. The lunatics are running the asylum.
Although anti-semitism seems to be on the rise, it is not nearly as bad as it was in the late 1930s, especially in places like Germany or central Europe (probably in eastern Europe as well, such as Poland or Hungary). Believe it or not, I think the next major pogrom that’s headed our way is going to be against, are you ready for this, Muslims in Europe.
Militant radical Muslim fundamentalists in Europe are going to overplay their hand and they will commit a major blunder, a 9/11-style attack against a European target. If that happens (and there have already been several attempts to do so), watch out. The Europeans are NOT Americans and they will deal with an external threat the way they always do, by killing it. Europeans have a long history of launching pogroms against ethnic races they think are causing them problems and Muslims are by far the most likely target for their anger.
Muslim immigrants in Europe are basically treated like trash, especially in France, Italy, and Germany. It would take one major spark for the native-born Europeans to turn on them in a big way. Don’t believe me? Ask the Muslims in Bosnia or Kosovo whether or not it can happen. It DID happen and in those instances there wasn’t even a major 9/11 attack to blame on the Muslims. It was simply a deeply-felt European hatred run wild. Could you imagine what would happen if, say, 3,000 Europeans were killed in an attack and Muslims were responsible for it? Trust me, the Europeans will do what they do best, and that’s kill as many Muslims as they can.
There are already major noises being made by ultra-conservative groups in France and Germany against Muslims. Radical Muslims are playing with fire if they think they can keep pushing Europeans around, let alone perpetrate a major 9/11-style attack against them. They day will come when radical Muslims will go too far, especially in a country like France, and then they’re luck will run out.
I live in Europe and I can tell you your analysis is wrong. There may be some animosity to Muslims here but Europeons would rather acquiesce then fight.All people here want is there six weeks of vacation and a good dentist.
LS,
You are wrong. Europe had 3/11 and 7/7, and if anything, it INCREASED their surrender to Islam and their Jew-hatred.
Only Israeli nukes will wake them up, and by then it will be too late.
Eric and Indigo, I simply do not agree. The Europeans may have had smaller attacks on London and Madrid, but nothing, absolutely nothing, on the scale of 9/11. And remember, to a smaller country like France or Germany (when compared to the size of the United States), 3,000 dead people in those countries would be proportionally a much bigger, and deadlier, attack. It would be a staggering loss, one that the Europeans simply would not stand for (especially the Germans or the French). As I said, Muslims were massacred in Bosnia and Kosovo for a lot less. I really do fear what would happen if something on the huge scale of 9/11 happened in Europe.
I’ll cut to the chase here and say that retaliation is out of the question because Europeans lack the testicular fortitude. No guts. No juevos. About all we could expect is UN resolutions while waiting for America to Do Something.
LS,
Our dispute is similar to one between Mark Steyn and Ralph Peters a few years ago about how Europe will react to the Islamicization of the continent, with Peters holding your view.
I respect both men greatly, but Peters (and you) are wrong with this one.
Also keep this in mind: Spain lost 200 people on 3/11. In proportion to its population, it is like the USA losing 1,500. And they surrendered even more quickly. Europe will surrender to the Islamists because the Jihadists are promising them something the Euros so desperately want — a Judenrein planet.
You can’t compare the Western Europeans to the people of the former Yugoslavia.
In case of a 9/11 type attack on Europe the best you can expect is that the Europeans will blame the attack on the “Israeli oppression” of the “poor Palestinians”. They may even blame themselves for not being good enough Dhimmis and vow to give even more power to the poor Muslim immigrants.
Europeans have a long history of launching pogroms against ethnic races they think are causing them problems and Muslims are by far the most likely target for their anger…Muslim immigrants in Europe are basically treated like trash, especially in France, Italy, and Germany. It would take one major spark for the native-born Europeans to turn on them in a big way.
I’ve read that larger and larger portions of France are devolving into “zones urbaines sensibles”, quartiers where French police are loath to enter and Muslim vales, and even law, are in effect.
There are already sparks, like the rioting a couple of years ago. But this situation seems more like slowly bringing the water up to boiling, like a frog in a crockpot.
You have only to look to RECENT history. Take a hard look at what happened to Algeria in the 1990s. Many secular or Westernized Muslims fled to France (former Colonial Power), it is their CHILDREN that have been “radicalized” and started with small bombs on public transportation, and riots near urban centers. There are regions were there are very FEW immigrants, and no vast wastelands of “government provided” housing. And in those areas, anti-Islamic feelings are high.
I’ll go to Haute Savoie in an instant and would be careful in the outskirts of Lyon and totally avoid Marseille and Toulon entirely. Unless you like being in law-less areas, there are no police patrols, its too dangerous.
In Germany, there is some truth to the stereotypes of “Turks” (which equals Muslim).
In both countries the “official Government line” is one thing, the average person NOT in government, it’s another. Think Kosovo cannot happen in Germany? You are backing the wrong horse then. Similar in France? Oh very definitely in some areas. Same for the Swiss, and they HAVE weapons in their homes, unlike the de-armed French and Germans.
But then, what do I know, I wasn’t a tourist, I only lived and worked there for 8 years.
Just how will Europe deal with 10%-15% of their population which is Muslim…with their limp-wristed militaries? Perhaps they can sic their college students on them? Either is doubtful, as it will be much easier for cowardly, leftist Europeans to once again blame the Jews all their continent’s problems…and deal with them as they have in the past.
I’m gonna have to go with The Big Guy on this one:
“I shall bless those who bless you, and shall curse those who curse you…’
Adina Kutnicki, your first post made me choked up. I was back at home as a kid and my mother telling me of our Polish grandmother having to receive Catholic mass in a cave.
It wasn’t all that long ago.
Roger, I’m but one man. Though I will do what is necessary to not see simlar circumstances of my ancestry’s faith or Helen Thomas’s (she looks an awful lot like the troll/hobbit guarding the bridge in ‘The Holy Grail’) words come to fruition.
Sadly, “Those who do not learn from history are condemned to repeat it.”
The result of appeasement is this? ‘Where have you gone, Joe DiMaggio..’
Birds of the same feather flock together, Obama should be removed from office immediately!
Mr. Simon:
“It’s time to blame the Jews. And the world, in economic extremis, is all too eager to find someone to blame.”
Yup, that seems to be the case.
Look, I didn’t seem to get the memo, though, so would you be kind enough to tell us what acts we should be blaming y’all for?
Is it poisoning the wells again?
Lending money at usurious rates?
Kidnapping infants for blood-drinking rituals?
Seducing Gentile maidens?
Spreading the Plague?
Worshiping the Devil…or…
All of the Above?
It’s hard to keep track of the reason du jour for the latest pogrom, but one or more of the above is usually in the blame-matrix somewhere, ain’t it?
Thanks in advance.
“Should the White House revoke the press credentials of Helen Thomas?”
God has already revoked her brain, assuming she had one in the first place.
An executive of my acquaintance was fond of the phrase “fix problems, not blame.” Obama’s philosophy is exactly the opposite. He is all about blame. Despite the fact that he often plays an intellectual on TV, there is nothing of the analyst about him.
The mentality of blame is highly contagious, as many have noted, and when it starts at the top, especially so. And in a climate of blame, large segments of the population will remember old hates which they had largely forgotten or at least suppressed.
Blame is all the left has. It certainly doesn’t have a viable economic philosophy. And the left certainly has little ethics. Similar to islam in both regards.
While it’s fine to say let Helen Thomas stay there and continue to spew her venom as it will only let us know their truth feelings, it also says this kind of vitriol and antisemitism is permitted, accepted and there is no consequence for it. Civilization must draw the line. Yeah yeah I know all about free speech. Some hatreds cannot be allowed because they are all too easily acted upon.
This is NOT a free speech issue. Nobody is going to jail Frau Thomas for being a Nazi scumbag.
It IS about her having CONSEQUENCES for her speech — which the left thinks it should never have to deal with.
It is interesting to note that Obama, ala Bill Clinton, has placed Helen Thomas in the front row of the White House press corps, after an 8-year exile in the back row, where her seditious vitriol belongs.
As the globe indulges in one last paroxysm of Jew hatred it is wise to recall one of the most famous stories of Rabbi Akiva.
Once Rabban Gamliel, Rabbi Elezar ben Azarya, Rabbi Yehoshua and Rabbi Akiva were walking in Jerusalem.
When they reached The Temple Mount they saw foxes running out of The Temple’s ruins.
The Rabbis broke into tears, but Rabbi Akiva laughed. Why are you joyful they asked him?
He answered , now that I have seen the prophecies of destruction fulfilled, I am certain that the prophecies of Redemption will follow.
When I see what is happening in the world I too must laugh. Only those that wish to remain blind cannot see what is to come.
There is no need for fear or worry. We have been prepared and preparing for this moment for thousands of years.
The Truth has never been more apparent.
Menachem Ben Yakov,
I find you a very practical man – I have found your testimony sound.
A paradox how many Jews and Christians realize the sides have been chosen, yet the rest of the world is blind to that fact. Indeed, truth has never been more apparent.
If you’ll allow me the liberty of New Testament theology my friend, “What then shall we say in response to this? If God is for us, who can be against us?”
Thank you Tex. The feeling is mutual.
Here is something you , and I hope many here, will find intresting.
BHO became a media darling and political star when he gave the keynote address at the Democrat Convention on July 27, 2004.
July 27, 2004 was, on the Hebrew Calendar, Tisha B’Av ( the 9th day of the Hebrew month of Av ).
There are no coincidences.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tisha_B'Av
Your response has given me such hope. Every week there are incredible political and natural upheavals, lately there have been almost Egyptian like plagues…bees swarming the white house, frogs in Greece. It saddens me that so much of the world has hatred so intense that it has blinded them to the truth of the Biblical prophets. I know both times the Temple was destroyed it was on the 9th of Av…chilling!
the word “Islam” means submission. For significant elements of islam forcing submission onto the world seems to be job #1. The purpose of life even.
Western culture has recently recognized that religion is best left as a personal matter, inquisitions, crusades, and such being recognized as symptoms of crude and un-caring cabals.
The need to defend dignity from the villain remains, and always will. History has taught us that when state religions are forced by law they become oppressive and must be thrown off.
History teaches us also that malaise sets in during the good times and emboldens the villain and allows him to find a weak point and an advantage for his next attack.
Any retreat from a position of strength creates a weak-point and the villain will immediately make every advantage
I commend to the readers this morning two works
First: _From Time Immemoial_ Joan Peters. This will give you the correct history of what is no the State of Israel
Second: _They Must be Stopped_ Bridgette Gabriel This will gve you a realistic assessment of our situation.
The crusades were a response to the invasion of Europe by muslim hoardes and an attempt to re-take lands that had been in Christian hands for hundreds of years.
Thomas’s hideous visage perfectly mirrors the vicious ideologue and anti-Semite within. let’s hope that someone has the good manners to finally flush this human sh#t.
I find it interesting that the Left/Democrats are the folks that are constantly beating the drum over racism, equal opportunity, freedom of/from religion, affirmative action, big tent, gays, blah blah. Sadly, the end result has been class warfare, blaming everyone but themselves, political correctness, Socialism and Marxism. When are these people gonna look in mirror and see what kind of world they are creating? We are surely entering a new dark age, brought by the enlightened, light being Obama. Very sad.
Here is a serious proposal.
Have the United States do two things.
Cut all support for Israel and offer every Israeli citizen political asylum here in the United States.
The result would be to let the morons surrounding Israel have it and it wont be worth crap without the Jews running it.
In addition, the USA would instantly get an infusion of 6 million of the smartest, most industrious people on the planet.
Lets face it, Israel is heading towards a nuclear conflict.
NOTE: We can also revoke the visa’s of most middle eastern types currently here in the US clogging up our education system. Replace them with smart young Jews that actually like the USA.
The plan to bring the Jews to the US just might be what it takes to make the heads of Patrick Buchanan, zPIGnew Brzinski, and Joseph Sobran explode.
In a more practical sense, the American public would never buy it. I am sure many Christians love the Jews; they just don’t want them next door or their sons dating their daughters.
Um, you seem to be using the term “Christian” very, very loosely.
When my daughter reaches dating age, she can date whomever she wants–even a liberal.
Christians don’t want their children dating non-Christians, period. It’s a recipe for heartache.
Not true. While life is easier for a couple when they share the same religion, it is not true that Christians want their children to marry Christians, period. It is also not true, as the previous poster said, that Christians don’t want Jews living next door to them.
That is to say, it is not true of all Christians. Just as it is not true of all Jews that they want their children to marry Jews, period.
That’s going to be news to the Jews living next to me.
I like your idea, Jack. It makes 100% sense. We could even invite them to gather in Arizona if they wanted to. The Jews, and before them, the Hebrews, have enriched every country smart enough to welcome them from the time of Joseph! And every country that kicked them out (like Spain in 1492) set itself on the road to being a basket case, although American gold and silver postponed reckoning for 150 years. With the possible exceptions of today’s Germany, the Low Countries and Italy, Europe doesn’t deserve to have any Jews–especially Britain and Scandinavia!
Every time I suggest relocating Israel to New York, and make New York an independent country, I get skewered. I only think of this because I see no way to ever change the minds of Israel’s neighboring enemies, who will never stop until every Israeli Jew is dead. The state of denial by so many to this essential fact is so depressing.
New York makes the most sense because there are already 1.5+ million Jews, and upstate is ready for re-population. I assume Vermont and Pennsylvania will not suddenly be possessed by Islamist fervor
The benefit to the United States is that the United Nations would be forced to relocate, to another city with NO decent restaurants (Teheran?).
I know, Israel and Jerusalem are the homeland for all Jews. I just do not believe anything but some sort of frozen peace can ever be accomplished, and time is now running out. The Jew-hatred from so many is worse then the 1930′s. They know what happened, and STILL want to finish the job, and are not afraid to say so.
Heh. That would be a real juijitsui move on the terrorists. Unfortunately our bigoted leftards with their kapos would do the same thing during the runup to this holocaust as they did to the last one: deny them asylum in the USA. And at the same time allow in the jihadis instrumental in causing that holocaust.
If the people of Israel were the type to cut and run whenever things got tough, they would have fled a generation ago.
Indeed, the socialist and Islamic alliance has returned in full force, reminiscent of the 1930′s. Is BHO a modern day Chamberlain? That would be a stretch to be sure, but the parallels are frightening.
What is ever more intriguing is that the only defenders of the Jews have been, Beck, Hannity, and Limbaugh – the very people marginalized by the socialist MSM as hate mongers. How ironic. But throughout this whole affair, what voices have been noticably absent? How about Spielberg and his self-indulgent Hollywood scions, George “I hate Israel” Soreass, etc. Very telling.
Mike Jefferson…”Is BHO a modern day Chamberlain?”
No. While he followed an unwise policy of appeasement, Chamberlain also built up Britain’s defenses, including the Spitfire and Hurricane fighters and the world’s first radar-communications-based air defense network. Also, I’ve seen no evidence that Chamberlain felt the kind of hostility toward his own country and people that Obama so evidently feels.
That’s why I posted a rhetorical question – Is BHO a modern day Chamberlain, and then qualified it with, “that’s a stretch”. Like Chamberlain, BHO experienced a meteroric rise in politics with little experience (though this point could be effectively argued). They both embrace(d) concilliation and appeasement as primary foreign policies. Nonetheless, the two men departed radically with respect to vision and social policies. As you pointed out, Chamberlain recognized Germany’s militarization and called for a defensive posture in building up the RAF among other things.
It is interesting, to put it mildly, to see the Book of Ezekiel’s prophecies being fulfilled before one’s eyes.
I have been starting to ask myself a question: if things get bad enough world-wide, or more importantly here in America, that Jews are in fear of their lives, what will I do? Do those of us who count ourselves friends of Israel and the Jews need to start planning for how we will protect them? I’m not talking something really extreme like gas ovens, but what if there is a massive rise of violence against Jews in America that our government, led by a man who listened willingly to a anti-semite preach at him for 20 years, is slow or unwilling to respond to?
Is it time to plan to defend the Jews? What do you think?
Your posting hit me like a ton of bricks. I have become acquainted with several Jewish familes out here in the middle of west-coast nowhere. Prior to this, I’ve never personally known any Jews, although as a Christian, I believe them to be among God’s chosen. I also believe they will be persecuted during “the last days”. Perhaps God will call Christians to protect Jews from the horrors they most certainly will face?
Excellent point, thank you for posting this.
Yes, we have to think about this too. We have to think about protecting the Jewish communities and temples.
We will.
Excellent question. I believe you are correct about needing to have plans in place to protect Jewish people from others. What we are seeing will only get worse.
Thank you for your responses. In thinking about this further, part of what those of us who are moved by this possibility (may it please God to keep it theoretical) is reach out to the Jewish leaders and people around us, and plan with them. One difference between 1930′s Germany and 2010 America is that many of the Jewish people will not be passive, but will actively defend themselves. What we have to do is show them (by relationship-building) that there are those of us who will stand with them, and can be trusted to be part of their defense.
I might add that this “defense” can take many forms–from being vocal advocates, to providing shelter if needed, to legal help, through to the (hopefully unnecessary) point of being prepared to physically defend them from attack. We all have different gifts and skills–how can our giftings be of use, if needed?
It’s time to pick up your cross and imitate Christ. Christians have enjoyed a pretty easy 60 years. Time to get back to work.
I’m too old to go into hiding. I love this country my adopted land; however, if threatened, I won’t hide. I’ll stand my ground and, if I have to, fight to the death to defend myself. I’m sure there are plenty of others out there who feel the same.
“Staunch anti-semite” should proceed or follow every mention of Helen Thomas’s name in the media and/or conversation.
I agree with LIBERTYSHIP above,the Muslims will overplay their hand.It is a mistake I believe to write the Europeans off as finished at this point in time.At least I certainly hope so,because if that is true then most of the rest of the world is also and life as we know it,and as we want it to be for our decendents will change in an awful way.The Muslims and the leftists are as one now,the world over,with big plans for the Europeans, but things are changing there and if this evil alliance does not time things well,the people in Europe will remind the world once again that life can be cheap,especially when their backs are against the wall.Europe has suffered through two world wars in the recent past and the effects have been severe, but underestimating them, and showing their cards prematurely may well prove to be fatal for the muslims because Europeans have a collective mean streak which they are ashamed of and try to hide, that shows itself at times,and cowards they most certainly are not. T.
What i found even more disturbing was all the people agreeing with Helen on youtube…….i think that is a more clear picture of how bad things really are in this country and beyond.
I opppose censorship of any kind. Let her keep talking and show that picture EVERYWHERE including her words! We’re known by the company we keep.
Let her talk. At least it’s happpening in the GREAT SATAN, the “racist” USA,that infamous haven for Jews and others exposed to dangers because of their “ethnicity”. Are she and her elite pals brave enough to publish openly a cartoon of Mohammed? If nothing else does, Helen Thomas and the praise heaped on her in certain quarters is evidence of the cowardice and mental distortions of the “multi-culturalists”, the “one-world-ites”, the “liberal” lunatics, responding to some dream world of their own contrivance. It’s clearly folie a tous of their ilk. They must continuously beat the drums of their own mental / social / compassion/ superiority to assure themselves it’s true. Say somethng often enough, WITH FEELING, and it becomes real. The only unfortunate effects are that these certifiable lunatics are listened to and manage the levers of the machinery of political power. instead of remaining quietly in their true home of Bedlam .
As was alluded to above, with that statement, Helen Thomas very likely gave voice to the élitist thinking in vogue with leftists in America these days.
So her befuddled candor isn’t completely without value, given that so much of Leftspeak is done in code that is intentionally dense and obfuscated.
Since the US joined that transparent and baldfaced UN attack on the Israeli nuclear program last week (ASIF Israel abandoning its nuclear weapons was going to stop A’jad and friends from their own), and since there are other signs that this US President is not favorably disposed towards Israel (despite his hypocritical verbal disclaimers to the contrary), I doubt this White House would be inclined, voluntarily anyway, to revoke that old badger Helen’s press credentials.
You’re limiting your analysis to the last 100 years but the Jews have been blamed for the world’s ills for a whole lot longer than that. After all they caused the Black Death back in the 1300s don’t you know? But then today’s lefties aren’t really known for their innovative thinking. Just the same old worn out claptrap we’ve heard before. The Jews, blame the Jews. So few left and yet so powerful. It really is a tribute to their brilliance, that despite the world’s efforts to eradicate them over the last few millennia they always find a way to outsmart their enemies. Although it’s not that hard to see how they manage to pull that off, not if Helen Thomas is representative of what passes for quality thinking in the ranks of their enemies. Step it up people, those GD Jews are going to pull it off again!
You’re limiting your analysis to the last 100 years but the Jews have been blamed for the world’s ills for a whole lot longer than that. After all they caused the Black Death back in the 1300s don’t you know? But then today’s lefties aren’t really known for their innovative thinking. Just the same old worn out claptrap we’ve heard before. The Jews, blame the Jews. So few left and yet so powerful. It really is a tribute to their brilliance, that despite the world’s efforts to eradicate them over the last few millennia they always find a way to outsmart their enemies. Although it’s not that hard to see how they manage to pull that off, not if Helen Thomas is representative of what passes for quality thinking in the ranks of their enemies. Step it up people, those GD Jews are going to pull it off again!
I think the Germans would welcome a trade of all their Arabs for the Jews of Israel. Maybe the “old Arab” (Ann Coulters name for Helen) is on to something.
It is not nice of me, but my schadenfreude meter is pegged when I think of Germany, so eager and so good at getting rid of those awful nasty horrible no-good Jews, going through what they are now. Same with France. Especially France, who did so much so willingly to work with the Germans on The Final Solution.
Well, Hans and Helga, François and Fifi, you got what you wished for. Most of your Jews are gone. Look what you have now.
Enjoy it.
They’d offer that if they thought about it.
As for the Obama to put kid gloves on, if do anything is moot. There’s a certain video floating around the LAT’s vault (actions such as these by the LAT indeed porves the headline of another PJM article, ‘Is Real News Dead?) that may paint Obama as an anti-Semite himself. If Obama wasn’t/isn’t, why hasn’t the video surfaced to show his ‘ascension above race, creed or faith’ as so pontificated by many admirers/ handlers.
The coverup for this man/ administration – for the most powerful position i nthe free world and like-minded brethren/ followers is nothing short of fiction.. but it’s reality presently!?
Anti-Semitism is the defining hallmark of the Muslim Brotherhood, the gang of guys that was hanging around outside Louis Farrakhan’s house on Memorial Day as Obama and his family were having a barbecue nearby.
Obama’s old Chicago church couldn’t find enough ways to praise & honor Hateful Louis himself.
It’s a weird nexus, black liberation theology, JWright’s worldview and how much all that thinking infused itself into the neurons of one Barack Hussein Obama.
Last year, a number of American Congresspeople signed a declaration affirming America’s longstanding and continuing support for Israel.
I hope they, at least, have the cojones to continue to re-affirm that.
The fact that the Palestinian leadership has, historically, been run by murderous thugs does not change the fact that what Israel did this week is indefensible.
And why you seem incapable of accepting both those propositions is frankly beyond me.
This really isn’t rocket science, Roger.
Actually, it’s irrelevant who ran the blockade. Even if it were a boat full of singing nuns and hare krishnas, Israel still has the right to defend itself.
Ed Anger III:
You’re giving the family a bad name.
Please go back to the kiddie table.
Ed Anger
Preventing an organization (Hamas) that has pledged itself to kill all Israeli’s from getting weapons is indefensible?
Interesting world you live in their Ed.
Jews helped, in large part, to elect Obama. They shouldn’t now complain when he turns his back on them. I have no sympathy for those who helped elect him, and are now suffering the wrath of his leftist, little-to-no-support-for-Israel administration. The Jews who voted for him must live with the consequences of their actions.
Precisely how many Israeli Jews voted for Obama?
To paraphrase Sean Connery: “You put one of us in the gas oven, we put 100,000 of yours in the microwave!”
Bibi should say the following:
“The world wants us to declare that we have nuclear missels. Well, we used to have them until about 15 minutes ago. We got rid of them. You can find them using the GPS coordinates for what used to be Tehran, Ankara, Damascus, the Bekka Valley, Jeddah, … “
The way the EU is going, you would probably have to add Paris, Berlin, Brussels, Vienna, etc. to that list.
And I certainly wouldn’t forget the ‘holy’ city of Mecca.
The situation is definitely strange when one considers that the Obama administration is the most Jewish and least Christian administration in history. Axlerod, Emmanuel, Kagan, Sunstein, Stern etc.are Jews, I guess. All of the so called Christians, I’m guessing again, believe in the policy of infanticide for all and gay marriage; they aren’t what most Christians would consider Christians. Obama had all the Christian symbols covered when he spoke at Georgetown, so he’s obviously a bogus Christian.
The best explanation for Obama’s policies that I’ve heard, are found in ‘Grand Jihad: How Islam And The Left Sabotage America’ by Andrew McCarthy. He was on Rush Limbaugh’s Show the other day and he actually makes sense of this seemingly nonsensical situation.
Patrick, There are certainly plenty of Jews in the BHO administration yet they are either ignorant of their heritage ( unlearned ) or completely assimilated. The have Jewish names indeed but they disregard their faith. I have had many discussions with Christian friends regarding European anti-semitism. Nazis where for the most part sons and daughters of Christians. Yet their actions where antithetical to modern Christian dogma. Certainly they are totally divorced from the great humanitarian ethos that pervades modern day Christians, Evangelicals especially. In every community there are those who live up to the highest standard and those that betray it. So while there are many Jews in the White House they represent neither Judaism or the Jewish people. In fact they are betrayers of both.
Let us not kid ourselves. This whole administration is filled with anti American values. Obama has been surrounded his entire life by anti-Semites. He could have walked away and instead embraced them. The State Department was bought along time ago
by Arab Oil. Jews anywhere never voted their interests. Not in the United States nor
in other place. Never. FDR could have saved Jews in the hundreds of thousands. He didn’t. The so called American Jewish leaders now resemble the ones in the 1930′s.
It was about self interest then. History is repeating itself. Europe is Judenrein.
Hitler was successful in the long run. Unfortunately, his bastard sons are running
many lands. It will be interesting when Israel wages a cyberwar against its enemies.
Dear Lord, what would Mary and George Thomas (Antonious) think of their little girl Helen’s antics today? They emigrated from Tripoli Lebanon and settled in Detroit. A location that until the 1980s had a large Arab (Christian) population, as did Toledo. It wasn’t until the 1980s that Muslim Arabs came in and occupied the same neighborhoods, driving the Christians out, as they did in the “old country.”
This woman DARES to associate and praise the people that would prefer to see her head rolling on the floor, than to stand with our ally and friends? The descendants of those that murdered and maimed her own ancestors?
This woman and the rest of the vipers that occupy the White House need to be driven into the seas and wastelands and destroyed.
That’s right. She’s a dhimmi, as I posted at Twitter. Lebanese Christian, most likely of Assyrian origin. Many or most Leb Christians are Assyrians who migrated over the centuries throughout the Middle East to escape – Muslims, not Jews. I had a friend who was Christian Lebanese but his family was from southern Turkey; before that, Persia; originally, Iraq of today. We are no longer friends. He decided that Israel was to blame for the failure of Lebanese Christian society. While I understand this, given Ehud Barak’s ‘night flight’ from Lebanon in 2000, this is more blaming. Helen Thomas is an Arab dhimmi who has betrayed her own kind. What is even more ironic is that some of the Assyrian and Chaldean Christians of Iraq – latter scattered as far as Detroit – may have had Hebrew, Israelite origins. After all, we were dispersed to Babylon. Babylon is northern Iraq, homeland of the Iraqi Christians.
I differ with EricR, above. I refuse to surrender to the level of despair that Eric embraces.
Eric, if you are a Jew, you should be ashamed.
I’m not ashamed that Israel deliver a final and ultimate justice if there is a second Holocaust.
A world that creates a second Holocaust forfeits its right to exist.
I did not mean that. I meant that you should not give up hope. That is all.
Helen Thomas reflects the views of the marxists, anti-semites, fascists, the democratic party and the view of Komrade Obama himself. They are evil people indeed! If they had total control, they would start killing their opponents and the Jews like Hitler, Mao, and Stalin did to usher in the perverted utopia they dream of. This is why they must be stopped!
Thank you, Roger, for making Pajamas Media a focal point for those of us who wish to support Israel and tell Israel and the world that the current administration does not speak for us. I voted for Helen to lose her job for what she said. The fact that she hasn’t already is shocking. But in comments, I said that my choice would be for her fellow WH press corps to formally censure her and give her a seat toward the back of the room. That preserves “free speech” and also sends a message. My guess is that if she is not front and center, she wouldn’t show up.
She showed up for 8 years when GWB banished her to the back row.
The “oldest hatred” has been gathering renewed steam for the past twenty years but it really got a shot in the arm during the Bush administration. The Left’s campaign to delegitmize President Bush began even before his first term. 9/11 threw a wrench into this effort, at least temporarily. However the progressive movement decided to embrace the formulation that “the enemy of my enemy is my friend.” This led first to a posture of moral equivalence and then outright hostility to the war on terror. It also worked the other way – “The friend of my enemy is my enemy.” Israel’s friendship and staunch anti-terror stance made the Left willing to swallow everything the increasingly sophisticated pro-Palestinian propoganda machine can put out. This is rapidly metastisizing into full-blown Jew-hatred even as progressives pat themselves on the back for their own tolerance.
I’ve been expecting this for a long time. When any and every Israeli attempt at self-defense is widely interpreted as an act aggression we are well down the road to anti-Semitism of the type seen in WWII and before. Even a border fence to keep bombers out of Israel was seen as an act of aggression. We witness another hallmark of anti-Semitism when we see every assault on the Jewish state turned on its head and interpreted as an act of self-Defense. Nothing but the anti-Semitic mindset can explain what’s going on. The next step in this progression is that whenever Israelis are murdered we will hear, “Well, it’s a shame, but they brought it on themselves, didn’t they?”
During WWII the Nazi occupiers of Denmark ordered all Danish Jews to wear the Star of David. Danish Christians, including the King of Denmark, responded to the Nazi decree by donning the Star of David themselves in order to show solidarity with Jews and to make it difficult for the Nazis to identify Jews. I started wearing a Star of David several years ago in response to growing ant-Semitism all over. I hope decent folk everywhere will do likewise. Of course, in donning the Star of David we don’t yet face the same risks as Danes in WWII. Not YET.
Where did it all start? Maybe about 30 years ago, when 70 percent of American students declared that history was “boring?”
Now, that’s an interesting take on things: the glory that was Greece, the grandeur of Rome, the advent of Christianity, the collapse of the Western Roman Empire, barbarian Europe, the rise of Islam, the dark Medieval Ages when Muslims controlled the Mediterranean, the beginning of Europe’s re-awakening as a Christian continent, the battle of Lepanto, the Renaissance, Michelangelo and Leonardo, the Enlightenment, the French Revolution, Napoleon, World War I, the Depression, World War II — all of this is “boring,” while (I presume) video games are “interesting?”
The demise of traditional, fact-based history in America’s public schools coincides with the advance of multiculturalism, moral relativism, open borders, anti-semitism and other brain-dead philosophies embraced by American leftists.
I hear ya. I teach college English, and I’m no longer surprised that a lot of my students know nothing about the Cold War or WWII. I do take class time to rectify that, though.
Oh, c’mom…Karl Marx or Mr. Mordachai was as anti semite as you could get and his dad was a Rabbi!. Liberal Jews hate to be Jews, they are well detailed accounts of the dhimmis everywhere. I hope the story about Thomas will bring out to light the issue about the Jews hating being Jews and prefering to be a Communist or Muslim supporter first rather than Jewish. You need to confront that and then you can understand how Rahm or Acselrod can work with Obama. In their case, ideology trumps everything!
I wonder how many people have considered what Charles Krauthammer mentioned in his column yesterday. The possibility that Israel might if really pressed settle all their old scores in the world, not just the ones with their current tormentors in the Arab and lefty world. If you are going to go why go alone?
AGAIN – Krauthammer is a Jew first – threatening other Americans and the world with Mutually Assured Destruction.
THAT is why people do not like Jews. There! You see if for yourself. His alliance is one of blood, not country.
He is threatening the world with Jewish power to destroy.
And yet, if any of the rest of us say such things, we are reviled and punished for it.
When I read threads like this I am thunder struck by the double standards for Jews and the rest of the world.
Amazing… absolutely amazing.
Utterly repugnant, as is everything you write. As at Amazon.com, where you wrote in support of Holocaust Denial. I believe you were also confident that the Mossad was beyond 911. I am hesitant to say that I recall you specifically said that; about Holocaust deniers effectively being Searchers of Truth? Yes, that I recall.
The levels of self-hatred define you as ‘erev rav.’
Do you know G Marks to be Jewish or are you just assuming so? I’ve seen his stuff before and I’m genuinely curious.
In any event, Bibi Natanyahu playing Dr.Strangelove and madly punching all the buttons is bizarre. (But Dr. Krauthammer suddenly losing it and leaping out of his wheel-chair, wild eyed, hair flying and sending missiles in every direction is amusing.)
When has Israel used military might for any purpose but to defend itself against aggression? Spread your lies somewhere else, like Huffpo, where evil is openly celebrated.
Because based on what the world has done and continues to do to the Jews, the world would damn well deserve to be devastated at the hands of Israel in a last ditch act of revenge.
A history lesson for G Marks —
The fight for Iwo Jima in 1945 was one of the bloodiest of World War II. A tiny island in the Pacific dominated by a volcanic mountain and pockmarked with caves, Iwo Jima was the setting for a five-week, non-stop battle between 70,000 American Marines and an unknown number of deeply entrenched Japanese defenders. The courage and gallantry of the American forces, climaxed by the dramatic raising of the American flag over Mt. Suribachi, is memorialized in the Marine Corps monument in Washington, DC. Less remembered, however, is that the battle occasioned an eloquent eulogy by a Marine Corps rabbi that has become an American classic.
Rabbi Roland B. Gittelsohn (1910-1995), assigned to the Fifth Marine Division, was the first Jewish chaplain the Marine Corps ever appointed. The American invading force at Iwo Jima included approximately 1,500 Jewish Marines. Rabbi Gittelsohn was in the thick of the fray, ministering to Marines of all faiths in the combat zone. He shared the fear, horror and despair of the fighting men, each of whom knew that each day might be his last. Roland Gittelsohn’s tireless efforts to comfort the wounded and encourage the fearful won him three service ribbons.
When the fighting was over, Division Chaplain Warren Cuthriell, a Protestant minister, asked Rabbi Gittelsohn to deliver the memorial sermon at a combined religious service dedicating the Marine Cemetery. Cuthriell wanted all the fallen Marines – black and white, Protestant, Catholic and Jewish – honored in a single, nondenominational ceremony. Unfortunately, racial and religious prejudice was strong in the Marine Corps, as it was then throughout America. According to Rabbi Gittelsohn, the majority of Christian chaplains objected to having a rabbi preach over predominantly Christian graves. The Catholic chaplains, in keeping with church doctrine, opposed any form of joint religious service.
To his credit, Cuthriell refused to alter his plans. Gittelsohn, on the other hand, wanted to save his friend Cuthriell further embarrassment and so decided it was best not to deliver his sermon. Instead, three separate religious services were held. At the Jewish service, to a congregation of 70 or so who attended, Rabbi Gittelsohn delivered the powerful eulogy he originally wrote for the combined service:
Here lie men who loved America because their ancestors generations ago helped in her founding, and other men who loved her with equal passion because they themselves or their own fathers escaped from oppression to her blessed shores. Here lie officers and men, Negroes and whites, rich men and poor . . . together. Here are Protestants, Catholics and Jews together. Here no man prefers another because of his faith or despises him because of his color. Here there are no quotas of how many from each group are admitted or allowed. Among these men, there is no discrimination. No prejudices. No hatred. Theirs is the highest and purest democracy …
Whosoever of us lifts his hand in hate against a brother, or who thinks himself superior to those who happen to be in the minority, makes of this ceremony and the bloody sacrifice it commemorates, an empty, hollow mockery. To this, then, as our solemn duty, sacred duty do we the living now dedicate ourselves: to the right of Protestants, Catholics, and Jews, of white men and Negroes alike, to enjoy the democracy for which all of them have here paid the price …
We here solemnly swear that this shall not be in vain. Out of this and from the suffering and sorrow of those who mourn this will come, we promise, the birth of a new freedom for the sons of men everywhere.
Among Gittelsohn’s listeners were three Protestant chaplains so incensed by the prejudice voiced by their colleagues that they boycotted their own service to attend Gittelsohn’s. One of them borrowed the manuscript and, unknown to Gittelsohn, circulated several thousand copies to his regiment. Some Marines enclosed the copies in letters to their families. An avalanche of coverage resulted. Time magazine published excerpts, which wire services spread even further. The entire sermon was inserted into the Congressional Record, the Army released the eulogy for short-wave broadcast to American troops throughout the world and radio commentator Robert St. John read it on his program and on many succeeding Memorial Days.
In 1995, in his last major public appearance before his death, Gittelsohn re-read a portion of the eulogy at the fiftieth commemoration ceremony at the Iwo Jima statue in Washington, D.C. In his autobiography, Gittelsohn reflected, “I have often wondered whether anyone would ever have heard of my Iwo Jima sermon had it not been for the bigoted attempt to ban it.”
American Jewish Historical Sociiety
I have never heard this – thank you so much for sharing it here. My mother was 16 when WWII ended and she vividly recalled the articles that came out about “the Final Solution.” She was so horrified, she began telling her children about it when we were still babies, I think. I was fully aware of what had taken place by the ripe old age of five. I have never, ever understood anti semitism. It is painful to read about the institutional bigotry which prevented the Rabbi from delivering his sermon as originally intended. I recently took a secular class on the Old Testament – in my opinion after delving into the shared tradition of both Jews and Christians, a well educated Christian chaplain would never have been capable of denying this sermon. Obviously, there were only three. It is a story of triumph over adversity. Thank you again.
Thanks for sharing that sermon.Today ,on D-DAY June 6,2010.
G-d Bless America!
As of 9:17 PM EST neither The White House official website nor The President of The United Sates has seen fit to mention the 75,000 American soldiers who fought on D Day. In fact, no mention of D day at all.
A greater disgrace would be hard to conjure.
Not quite the 30′s. This time around the Jews are better armed. If pushed too far I would not count on the Israelis to simply acquiesce and disappear. An Israel faced with extinction would obliterate much of the Middle East,the Near East, Western Europe, and Scandanavia. When the party is over, then it’s time to settle the tab. In other words, Armageddon, Now.
Look at the reasons GIVEN for Jew Hatred. People don’t just hate Jews because they worship differently. People hate Jews because of, well, what is going to happen to Helen Thomas!
Jews do not allow criticism of their own. AND they control the means of collective punishment for any and all who don’t toe the line.
that’s enough for people to rebel, and resent whom ever has that much power.
This comment may not even see the light of day! so please… don’t wring your hands and ask ” Why do they hate us?”
the reasons are evident every day in countries where Jews have much more power than their numbers.
People react to such asymmetrical warfare with disdain … and worse.
All the same old theories, when as the posts above show, many of the leading standard-bearers of the Left are in fact…Jews.
What we get from you, a born Jew, apparently, is ‘all the Jews are together for themselves.’
Stew in your hatred.
The hatred sounds like envy and blaming others for one own’s failings. The liberals are lashing out because their paradigm is a bust. The muslim countries surrounding Israel are corrupt, repressive autocracies except for Iraq. They need to blame someone for their failures.
The collapse of the liberal paradigm is driving this anxiety. The tea party movement needs to champion the winning paradigm–freedom, democracy and capitalism. Don’t be afraid. We can speed up the change by voting in like-minded people. It won’t solve all our problems but it will solve some and relieve the anxiety. This should be a global effort.
You are out of your mind, G Marks.
In your opinion, the only reason Thomas will be punished is because that’s what the Jews want?
In your opinion, Thomas said nothing which would warrant punishment?
In my opinion, you have revealed the hatred that is in your soul much more completely than you ever intended.
I still cannot for the life of me figure out how the vast majority of American Jews are liberal/progressive/Marxist and would support the governments of any American or European socialist regime that would ultimately revisit their people with the death camps of the 1930s. Is it just plain cultural self-loathing?
And BTW, put that old nasty horse Helen Thomas on the cart and truck her off to the glue factory. She’s done.
The reason many American Jews are left leaning I believe is the result of two historical matters. Under the Czar, Jews suffered through many pogroms and communism offered a means of getting rid of the Czar and made a nominal promise of being accepting of Jews. The second reason is that a people who have been subjected to discrimination tend to be more favorable to progressive causes such as the Civil Rights Movement.
glenn,
Mr. Krauthammer’s column, take on the matter was interesting. A ‘Damn the torpedoes, full speed ahead..’ take on Israel’s situation, possible stance whereas that fork road in is sadly fast approaching.
I’m still dumbfounded by Ms. Thomas’s outburst. Then again, why am I should be the correct response.
Hamas’s homebase is in Beirut nowadays. There are many Lebanese entrepeneurs/ businessman involved in North/West Africa who I’d befriended when in Mali a few years back.
I received an email from 1 Lebanese friend in Bamako, Mali this morning who is astounded a woman with lineage from Lebanon would ipso facto support Hamas, occupiers in the West Bank. 6 time zones away and HE GETS IT!!
This same friend visits often though said he’ll never live in Beirut/ surrounding area in the near future. Not until he, ‘The silent majority’ stand up to their terrorist handlers..
Eventually, these events have to come to a head. Whether with force, discussion – time will tell.
The Samson option is part of Israel’s defense net, always has been. Israel has somewhere between 150-400 Nuclear weapons depending on who is talking, and untold amounts of chemical and biological weaponry. Russian, American, European and ME centers are the generally accepted targets of Israels Samson Military strategy.
It is a last ditch move, as retaliation from the Nations hit would end Israel.
It is impossible to be a man/woman of the Left and not hate the Jews.
If you seriously believe that tripe, you’re a blithering idiot.
OK, provide us some examples, Ed, of well-known leftist politicians and/or journalists who are avid supporters of Israel and religious Jews.
“OK, provide us some examples, Ed, of well-known leftist politicians and/or journalists who are avid supporters of Israel and religious Jews.”
So anyone who is not an “avid supporter of Israel and religious jews” is a jew hater?
CaptainNorway:
Read my statement again. I merely asked Ed to provide examples of leftist pols and media types who supported Israel and religious Jews. I never referred to anyone a “Jew hater”.
Thank you, Mr. Simon, for posting the truth and allowing the world-at-large to respond. PJM and sites like it have replaced the decadent Helen Thomas liars brigade and become the true media.
Helen Thomas’s employer is Lisa Bagley. Her email address is lbagley@hearst.com.
Feel free to share your “thoughts” respectfully about Ms. Thomas’ continued employment by Hearst.
thanks!! will use wisely, with “nice” language..
“hearst.com” Hearst: that explains a lot. Anything to sell a paper.
Or you can contact Helen directly. Her email adress is hbaglady@hearst.com
G Marks has drunk the kool aid.
FWIW, as a Christian I do not and have never feared “Jewish power” when the emphasis is on “JEWISH,” as in, someone who worships the God of Abraham, Isaac and Jacob. I often call my dear Lord “Yahweh” and “El Shaddai” when I pray.
It’s the power of idol-worshippers that concerns me. And those people go by many labels.
Menachem Ben Yakov @31 – Beautifully written. Your faith is great. May He bless and reward you, and bind you fast to Him.
Terry and Adina in Israel – Psalm 27. I am praying for Israel and for you. I don’t claim to know the short-term outcome, only the long-term one. Jerusalem is HIS city, and it shall be, someday, truly and forever, the “Abode of Peace.”
Genesis Fan @ 24 – Exactly. The Hamans never learn, do they?
I have seen this idea kicked around of having the Israeli Jews relocate to America. Many Americans I know may believe that sound reasoning, and I’m sure it done mostly with the best of intent. But I find the very idea of suggesting Jews move an abomination.
The America public and its representative government need to quit straddling the fence. Either lend our unbending support for Israel, or abandon her to the wolves. This mealy-mouthed approach to Middle East peace is weak, pathetic and serves no useful purpose.
For me, the Jews of Israel are right where they are supposed to be. I believe that land is rightfully their own. Their capital is Jerusalem – all of it. Jewish ancestry suffered for it, they died for it, their sons and daughters converted a desert into a garden under the authority of covenant 4,000 years ago. Whether for “religious” reasons like mine, or completely secular reasons of Israel being the only real democracy of the Middle East, the facts for joining with Israel and providing unwavering support are readily apparent.
Well said, Tex. The Lord of us all bless you and keep you.
Tex, You are exactly right. In any case we have no choice. In truth The Almighty demands we live on The Land. It is only here that we can live fully as Jews. Besides as far as living elsewhere, even in the most hospitable of climates, we know the ultimate result. As the young like to say, ” been there done that “.
There is certainly serious issues with the situation Israel is in, and what can be done to correct it. This requires careful deliberation.
However taking the position that any decision Israel makes must automatically be the correct and proper choice because they are Jewish, is just as Bad.
Israels leaders throughout history have made monumental mistakes, resulting in outcomes that have proved nothing short of catastrophic to her people.
As a free and democratice state, however, present-day Israel does have the right to defend herself against the demonic empowered states that surround her.
I have never, ever, seen anyone take the position that anything Israel does, is by definition good.
I have however, seen many anti-semites make such claims about the supporters of Isreal.
I suggest every American citizen read the following to learn the truth about Israel:
http://www.thepeoplevoice.org/cgi-bin/blogs/voices.php/2005/10/07/the_life_of_an_american_jew_in_racist_ma
How infinitely sad is the fact that we have to hear the antisemitic words of that hag ?
How infinitely sad is the fact that we have an administration that positions itself midway between the terrorists of hamas and the Freedom Fighters of Israel ?
Not eighty years have passed since the Holocaust…
God must be sad indeed watching this planet of fools and monsters
WHY DO THE JEWS VOTE FOR THEIR EXTERMINATION OVER AND OVER AND OVER? This obama is probably the worst president we will ever have (if we have any more) and anyone who looked into his background had to know he was an antisemite from the get go! How could you sit in that “church” for 20 years and still love the Jewish people? He has had it drilled into his very brain from a child to hate the Jews.
He might surround his regime with jews (in name only) and then we have the aclu which is filled with jewish (in name only) lawyers, who constantly go after anything Christian.
(Could I just ask a question? Why do the Jews always attack a Christus or a Christmas Tree?) Don’t you understand that the Christians are the only religion that supports the Jews and the Jewish State?)
Thank G-d for the righteous Christians who support Israel, but they’re not the only ones. At a recent pro-Israel rally in NYC, there were many Hindus, who are sick of Islamist violence as well.
It’s because the Jews are blind fools. Their sins and unbelief have hardened their hearts. True, our ancestors didn’t help the matter by persecuting them, but the bottom line is that the Jews did the worst of it to themselves by shunning the words of the Prophets. Oh, if only Israel would repent and hear the Word of the Lord! Listen to Him speak to you in the wilderness, O Israel! Hear the word of the Bridegroom as He calls. Return to the Lord, humble and contrite, and He will heal your wounds. Look upon Him whom you have pierced with your transgressions, and mourn for Him as one mourns for an only son!
The Bible clearly states that many in the last days will acknowledge Jesus Christ as the true Messiah and come to saving faith in Him.
Sorry to read more racist or religious-based denunciations based on generalizations. ‘Jesus’ is not the messiah, and this can be shown in a number of ways.
The concept that both you and the previous poster lay out, that all Jews are foolish and refuse to listen to G-d, is religious bigotry. Understandable, but ignores for example all the religious and conservative Israelis who don’t think anything like David Axelrod.
Then again, your purpose is not to see the whole map but to shill for Jesus and demand that all convert to Christianity. So that’s the context.
There can only be one truth, Larry. Jews, unlike Muslims, believe in the same God as Christians, but reject Jesus as Messiah. The Bible states that one day, “Every knee will bow and every tongue confess that Jesus Christ is Lord”. If I truly believe this, I wouldn’t be much of a friend to my Jewish neighbors if I failed to pray for them and/or speak to them about Jesus…would I?
If it can be so easily shown, please do so.
” The Bible clearly states that many in the last days will acknowledge Jesus Christ as the true Messiah and come to saving faith in Him. ”
Not the original.
” Their sins and unbelief have hardened their hearts. ”
” We are conscious today that many centuries of blindness have cloaked our eyes so that we can no longer see the beauty of Thy chosen people, nor recognize in their faces the features of our privileged brethren. We realize that the mark of Cain stands on our foreheads. Across the centuries our Brother Abel has lain in blood which we drew or shed tears we caused forgetting Thy love. Forgive us for the curse we falsely attached to their name as Jews. Forgive us for crucifying Thee a second time in their flesh. For we knew not what we did….”
Pope John XXIII
Act of Reparation
While there are many Jews in the ACLU, the ACLU is not made up only of Jews.
I am glad the fact of the Middle Eastern origin of many Jews in Israel today was mentioned. With the formation of Israel, Jews were basically expelled from all major Middle Eastern countries except Iran. They were forced to leave their property behind and were physically abused. Can anyone in their right mind say to all Jews of Yemeni descent presently living in Israel that they are now required to return to Yemen?
Is it a coincidence the OBama promoted HELEN to the front row like a good little student? (of BS- Barry Shit)
Let’s review- last week O’Bumbler called each WH reporter ONE BY ONE into his office for a “private chat” and to warn them about reportage demonizing his role re: oil spill – more like a threat from the principal that if they don’t behave- they might KICKED from WH and therefore their JOBS! I dunno about most of you but many of us feel fortuante to have a job, any job in these trying times.Who knows what else was said behind the not transparent doors!
So we have Obama strong arming the press by threat- democratic? HELL no— AUTO-CRATIC
Helen Thomas will go down in history for her remarks. Nothing more needs to be said.
However, I do suggest that her video recording be circulated far and wide, along with the snapshot of her and Obama smiling side by side (see the home page), so that they will be remembered that way together.
The nazi hag and the Obama administration clearly agree on the long-term strategy. The White House just announced that the blockade is unsustainable and “The current arrangements are unsustainable and must be changed”
What can anyone expect from an Administration (and nearly an entire political party) which sides with anti-democratic religious terrorists bent on genocide against a western liberal democracy?
Muslims have the flawed idea that anyplace that comes under the control of Islam must always remain under the control of Islam, which includes the land of Israel. So even if most of the Arabs claiming ownership of Israel arrived in the 20′s and 30′s because of the reclamation and recovery, they somehow have a legitimate claim to Israel where Jews (who have lived there continuously for thousands of years) somehow do not.
Jefferson had it right:
“The tree of liberty must be refreshed from time to time with the blood of patriots and tyrants. It is it’s natural manure.”
Let’s see. On the one side we have murderous gangsters who kill their own people with impunity, steal from those who would help them, barbarously attack women and children in peaceful civilian settings, continually attack a neighboring country that only wants to live in peace, and has a charter calling for genocide against jews and the destruction of one of the only liberal democracies in the Middle East. On the other we have a country that has bent over backwards in attempting to find peace, treats minorities and women fairly, only attacks after severe provocation, has adhered to its peace treaties with Jordan and Egypt for 30 years, has repeated elections and rule of law, and has representatives from nearly all minority groups in its parliament.
How to choose our friend…tough question. I suppose if I loved nazis and gangster government based on ethnic creeds then I would have to favor Hamas.
Dear God of Abraham,
Please protect and guide your Jewish people like a targeted laser of your righteous fury towards all who would attack Israel.
Please enlighten the ones in darkness and remove the blindness and deafness from those who will not see or hear.
Please, Dear Lord, in your almighty and all knowing might, show the world the true goodness of all of your children and lift the veil from the pure evil that wishes to perpetrate itself upon us like a cureless cancer.
I love you so much, God.
This is my prayer today.
Love always and forever, my Father who art in Heaven (hallowed by your name),
Delia
Absolute rubbish. When 9 people are killed with at least 30 bullets, some of them multiple head wounds, I think it’s justified to call that a tragic event. Israel has a tendency, much like the previous US. administration, to act unilaterally then rationalize their actions after the fact. This is not high school, you’re not the only country in the world and not everyone is going to think the way you do.
Grow up, Israel….and the rest of you as well.
Just the kind of retarded obfuscation and utter denial of the facts we have come to expect from the few who believe that Israel has no right to defend itself from the genocidal Arabs in Gaza.
Maybe if the paid mob of fighters hadn’t attacked the IDF boarding the ship–or even gone to port for inspection and transhipping materials–no one would have died. If this had happened in the USA the instigators of the provocation would have the ones guilty of murder. Not the IDF.
I suggest you both grow up as well as educate yourself. Supporting nazi-like organizations like Hamas reflects poorly on both your formal and moral education.
Apparently reading and comprehension are not your strong points. No one has ever stated that Israel can’t or shouldn’t defend itself, but too often that is used as an excuse for many atrocities by many countries, including Iran and North Korea.
You also forget that the IDF boarded the ship IN INTERNATIONAL WATERS. The people on the flotilla had the right to defend themselves, again, IN INTERNATIONAL WATERS.
…and to think that because I don’t support Israel’s mistakes that I support Hamas, that’s called a fallacy of association. That simply means you don’t know what you’re talking about and therefore make illogical associations.
Keep up the good work.
There was no requirement for Israel to wait until it entered territorial waters before they boarded and inspected those ships on their way to Gaza. Israel (or any other nation) is under no obligation to allow ships to enter territorial waters before boarding. Try educating yourself next time about the topics you choose to spout about–less embarrassing for you and less painful for readers.
Furthermore, these ships could have turned around and returned to Turkey and Israel would have left them alone. Alternatively, the ship (were it not an intended provocation carrying fighters intending to attack IDF troops) could have simply entered the Israel port as directed.
Your transparent attempt to escape your obvious sympathies is pathetic. Stand up for your obvious illogical and illiterate excuses for this provocation and subsequent attacks on IDF. Stand up for your defense of Gaza and Hamas–who, along with Iran–are the only ones to benefit from forcing open uncontrolled shipping to Gaza.
This is a blockade situation, correct? Isn’t the point of a blockade to keep non-compliant vessels out of the waters you control? Should they wait until just inside the limit of their borders, is that the difference between ok or not to you? The ‘international waters’ is such a strange battle cry from that side of the argument. Truly. Disagreeing with the blockade in total I can perhaps see (well, not if I consider what Hamas is, but that’s a whole other subject)
They weren’t going to be let in regardless, and stopping them further from the coastal border is presumably safer from closer (it was a small boat that caused so much damage to the USS Cole). They attempted to run a known blockade- something never really known as smart to do, espeically if it’s a blockade by a country that considers itself in a survival situation- and are lucky Israel isn’t truly old-school- ie, that they weren’t sunk with all hands aboard after the first warning. Had they truly been humanitarians, they would have negotiated the offered offloading of supplies to allow chosen observers to make sure they got where they were supposed to go (by my understanding, Israel did distribute the materials in the other ships, as it promised).
As for the multiple shots to each attacker- I’ve not actually seen a real fire-fight (which I am quite thankful for), but my guess is that you aim for the attackers in front first, and several people probably aimed for the same attacker at once, espeically if they were close enough to do harm, or moving to do so. I doubt that the individual soldiers had time to call out which attacker was theirs. Again, I’m just guessing- but maybe I’m wrong and a fire-fight with massing armed attackers is actually like volleyball, and you can call your shot, and these professional soldiers were instead just cutting loose.
Jeff, Israel boarding in international waters was legal and justified under international law.-
Assuming the best case scenario for the flotilla, that they were ” neutral vessels ” ( the case could certainly be made that they were not ) and they were carrying only
” humanitarian aid ” ( which was not true as they were also carrying Jihadis bent on combat ) they were still required to submit to identification and inspection which they refused to do.
I suppose the minor matter of the “peace actvists” attacking the Israelis when their ship was boarded makes no impression on you. Or, the contradiction of “peace activists” attacking anyone, for that matter.
Useful idiots like Jeff would complain about Arab assassins in Israel being killed before they had a chance to shoot a few women and children. He represents the “reasonable” view that would passively watch as Arabs murdered millions of Israelis-but complains mightily when Israel does even the smallest action for self-defense.
Maybe his father was saying the same things in 1933-1942 about Germany while they blocked immigration of German Jews to the USA. Certainly the leftists in the Democrat party were as antisemitic as they were racist. Little seems to have changed in the intervening years…
Just because someone is killed does not make them innocent. The videos show the activists attacking and beating the soldiers as they landed on the boat. At what point is it ok to defend yourself? Gandhi urged the British to surrender to the Nazis and the Jews to offer themselves to the butcher’s knife. If Jeff thinks Israelis should resist violence with non-violent means, the same should be true for the muslims. Since he did not condemn the activists, somehow I think he is probably just reactionary and needs to grow up himself.
Are you actually stupid enough to believe that most people are killed with a single shot?
As to Israel acting unilaterally, so what? All nations do so when it is in their interest. Do you believe that Jews don’t have a right to do what everyone else does?
Do you believe that Israel has no right to protect it’s citizens from those who want to kill them?
It’s left/libtardism at its finest… Helen Thomas and her performing bigotry, ladies and gentlemen!
In 1988 Rabbi Meir Kahane wrote an open letter to the world. His fury at seeing Jewry being on the short end of the stick too many times is palpable in the letter.
Far too often those who don’t want to know are so wrapped up in themselves, that it seems a cloak of invisibility is wrapped around the others who are equally wrapped up in themselves, that none of them see the similarities.
Well, as long as those who have power continue to abuse it, we will continue to see the ethically dubious deem themselves to be good, because they evaluate themselves
by themselves. So much for originality.
I voted in the poll but frankly, I’m disappointed in PJTV. The poll turned out to be one question about the idiot Helen Thomas and the rest of the questions were marketing support research for PJTV. In other words, SPAM.
Shame on PJTV.
If it helps PJTV gain a wider audience I’m all for it.
“When 9 people are killed with at least 30 bullets, some of them multiple head wounds, I think it’s justified to call that a tragic event.”
I think it’s justified to call it darn good shooting, under the circumstanes.
Yeah, as if the squishies would be okay with this if there was only one bullet to the head! If you’re going to pull the trigger, always double tap.
Even as we speak, there is a documentary about Belgium during the war and what happened to the Jews during. I remember the newsreels when the camps were liberated and I can’t stand to see it again. If any people have a right to be fearful of the people who hate them, it has to be the Jews. Mark or Jeff please get some of those reels and see exactly how these people were dehumanized and destroyed. It is horrible and I don’t blame them for saying, “never again!”
For all you secular Jews, it doesn’t matter how much you have distanced yourself from your heritage – you will always be Jewish to those who hate. So after they come for the religious Jews, they will come for you.
I also wonder about the gays supporting our “muslim in chief”, since we all know what the muslims will do to the gays when they take over. I guess it takes some of us a 2×4 upside the head to finally get it.
Mr. Simon, you have done such a good job in writing this piece and it is reassuring to see how many good people have responded.
I’m not sure what should be done with Helen Thomas but her bold coarse wickedness certainly illustrates that an even greater degree of maliciousness has been unleashed in this world and is now considered acceptable. She should have never been allowed to gain the status and deference that she has because she is the same person she has always been. She is/has been always mean-spirited. Like some others I can think of, she should have been shunned and marginalized long before she attained a significant position.
Good news, and bad. The bad??? Helen suffers a multitude of chronic ilnesses, but is still alive, sort of..
The good??? Her personal physician is likely Jewish.
This quote was translated into English,from an article appearing in the Czech Republic as published in the Prager Zeitung of 28 April 2010.
“The danger to America is not Barack Obama but a citizenry capable of
entrusting a man like him with the Presidency. It will be far easier
to limit and undo the follies of an Obama presidency than to restore the necessary common sense and good judgment to a depraved electorate
willing to have such a man for their president.”
“The problem is much deeper and far more serious than Mr. Obama, who
is a mere symptom of what ails America. Blaming the prince of the fools should not blind anyone to the vast confederacy of fools that made him their prince.”
“The Republic can survive a Barack Obama, who is, after all, merely a
fool.It is less likely to survive a multitude of fools such as those who made him their president.”
How Eastern European in both turn of mind and tone. Reeks of bitter truth.
The world has gone mad. Helen Thomas spews her hate and we are having some kind of philosophical debate whether she should remain at her position and given a platform to continue. I’m an old Jew who has seen a lot. Give me a break. The woman needs to go immediately. Every powerful Jew in the US needs to send a letter of protest to their state rep or to Obama himself. Why don’t we hear from the Stephen Spielberg’s, Barbra Streisand’s , Mayor Bloomberg etc. etc. What the hell is wrong with these people?
Goldie – G Marks is a smug little moron, who I’m quite sure thinks he is quite clever – believe me – I’ve heard his type all my life. He’s a closet Jew Hater. Probably would we himself if he ever had to put himself in and Israeli soldiers shoes. You can’t make a valid point with guys like this, so it’s a waste of time. Anyone who has visited a holocaust museum and doesn’t get it is either comatose or just an old fashioned Jew Hater! Believe me – they are real easy to spot.
I can just see Patrick Buchanan, zPIGnew Brzinski,( and daughter), Joseph Sobran , and Jimmy the Jew Hater Carter smiling now, perhaps giving a quick call to congratulate Helen on a Job well done.
My adopted father on the Kibbutz (1967) was from Romania. When I was leaving for home (Canada) he said “You will be back one day my son when the world turns on the Jews again” Maybe it’s time !
All of us may end up there sooner rather than later at the rate things are going.
http://www.lagur.com/english/
The irony here is that if anyone espousing Ms. Thomas’ views ran for office in the U.S., 75% of American Jews would vote for her.
If 60 minutes or CNN did a true story(hypothetical) about the Wahabies building a working replica of Auschwitz in the Catskills region, the next day all the major activist Jewish organizations would meet to discuss things they consider far more important, like Trig Palin.
Sometimes I get the felling that some folks think the only people who voted for Obama were Jews. Why are Jews singled out? Where is the ire directed at the African American community for example? Sixty percent of Jews versus ninety eight percent of African Americans yet not a wine or a whimper. Anti- semitism is insidious. There is plenty of blame to go around.
Of course Thomas should not be taken off the press corp. Being an anti-Semite, homosexual, or any other minority does not disqualify someone for a job. I want Thomas to live a long life asking questions of Obama. Who else can we rely upon to repeatedly ask Obama–in one form or another–”don’t you hate the Jews as much as I do?” And have Obama reply “Yes, Helen, just as Wright and Muhammed taught me!”
You have a good point.
Actually, Roger, I’d be interested in how you did vote on your own poll regarding shutting up Helen Thomas. Do tell.
Normally I wouldn’t put you on the side of the speech police. Do you really want to add grist to the old canard about the Joooos making sure to shut down any media criticism of their wicked ways?
Fair question.
Someone on here – way back – said something particularly smart, I thought. It was a woman, I believe. She said that Thomas should be removed from her coveted front row position (given her by Obama, I understand) and made to sit in the back with some humble blogger. That way free speech would be preserved but she would be punished for being an execrable racist.
But there’s a bigger question here: Who gets to attend White House press briefings aanyway? So far Pajamas Media has not been allowed. Ironically, in the eighties, when I had an assignment to write a screenplay for Universal Studios about the WH press corps, I was allowed to sit in row two, not far from Helen Thomas, for as long as I wished. So there’s no real freedom of the press anyway – only for those who are chosen. In double irony, it was during the Reagan Admin when I was allowed unbelievable access to the White House Press room – and I was then a very liberal Democrat.
Wait, on second thought, the best thing for Thomas would be a ‘skimmity ride,’ if you remember your Thomas Hardy. Back in those days in rural England, when someone committed adultery they would strip her, tie her down and ride her around the town on an open cart. Hanoi Paris, ask yourself this: if a member of the White House press corps would have advocated blacks being returned to slavery, what would be the proper reaction? Thomas is asking the Jews to return to the gas.
Helen Thomas is merely showing us what Washington liberals are thinking…she needs to be banned.
What was Obama’s reaction to all of this?
or was he too busy laughing at McCartney insulting the US to listen/
A few more months and there will be hell on earth, I just don’t want to the have the US be part of it.
Every Jew in their right mind should stand up against this woman. She needs to be banned.
Mr. Simon, Since the Democratic party is the home of the anti-semite progressives, will you be leaving the party anytime soon?
Perhaps the world might have been better off if Germany had won WWI:
No Hitler?
No problem in the Middle East?
No Islamization of Europe?
A random indefensible brain fart or an arguable idea?
Absolutely a defensible position.
WWI was at it’s core a colonialist war. The various European parties were fighting over who would control the best colonies. It really didn’t matter who won.
The US simply had no dog in that fight and should have stayed out. Unfortunately W. Wilson wanted the US to be recognized as a world power.
The proximate causes for the US entering the war were the Lusitania and that letter from Germany to Mexico. (I forget the name it’s known by.) However, neither of those events would have happened had the US not been already backing and supporting Great Britain.
Many historians feel that all sides in WWI were getting tired of the fighting, and a general armistace was in the offing. That is, all sides just declaring the war a draw and going home. Then the US entered.
Not quite a straight answer, Roger. Either you believe, along with Justice Felix Franfurter, first Jew Supreme, that short of “shouting ‘fire’ in a crowded theatre”, free speech mean free speech. Or you don’t. But fair enough, free speech doesn’t necessarily mean getting to keep your coveted front perch in the White House press gallery. I do think the Obamazoids would have to be tone deaf not to slap her down a bit, given how uppity the Jews may well be getting nowadays with the present regime. But to paraphrase (unoriginally) the Nixonoids, “f*** the Jews, they’ll vote for us anyway”.
Years ago I worked in Calcutta and fell in then with a bunch of Palestinians, some of them PLO veterans of liberation war against the Zionists. I was out front about i was and where I was coming from, but my Pali buddies were willing to cut me some personal slack on account of my being a “fellow warrior”, having done a tour as a grunt in I-Corps.
My Pali buddies assured me that they had nothing really against the Jews and that everything would be just fine if they only went back to where they came from. “You know: Poland, Hungary, Lithuania, Belarus, the Ukraine.” (I don’t think the issue of the 700,000 Jews expelled from the Arab world who made it to Israel after 1947 ever entered the equation.)
Amazing. These PLOers had not a clue of the fate of many of those pathetic stunned bedraggled handful of survivors of the Nazi war against the Jews who managed to make their way back to the shetls in 1945-46. Not to mention the revival, in all their raging glory, of the Stalinoid pogroms in Czechoslovakia in the 1950s (with plenty of executions) and in Poland in the 1960s.
Better to have Ms. Thomas out there telling us, finally, what she really thinks. Not so different anyway from the Arab mainstream. (She’s of Lebanese background, probably Maronite Christian, as were most Lebanese immigrants to the USA in that era.)
I think Roger answered your question about what he wants done with Helen. You simply disagree with him.
While I appreciate what you wrote in your post about Israel and you willingness to stand up to ‘Palestinians’ in India, you – and they – should also focus on the fact that modern Zionism began in the 1870s with the Biluim, the first wave of (re)settlers of the Land of Israel. And that Jerusalem had a Jewish majority in 1848, 12 plus years before America decided through mass killing, one of the other, to stay intact. While you are not overtly making the point, so many who write in defense of Israel focus on the Holocaust and not the effort to rebuild a national identity and home long before Hitler even came to power. Had more Jews arrived in Israel (‘Palestine’) during the British Mandate – had it been easier to leave Europe and easier to get in, given British policies from the early 1930s on, then a Jewish state would have existed to take in the refugees when the Nazis came to power. As Hitler said himself, the West refused to take them, and Israel, not yet existing as a state, could not.
Actually, Steve, I’m not so sure exactly how our host would dispose of Ms Thomas. Regarding a skimmity ride (which Hardy novel was that in, anyway? I don’t recollect it but I haven’t read them all), I think being exposed to her full frontal nakedness would be vastly more disturbing to us then it would be to her. That would be a stroke of male sexual deprogramming far in excess of anything in Clockwork Orange.
Also, I get it that modern Zionism predated the Shoah, and that Zev Jabotinski called it all correctly decades before the war against the Jews in Europe… But for the American Jewish diaspora of my parents’ and grandparents’ generations (not so much, regrettably, for my own and my childrens’ generations), the existence of Israel was –first and foremost– the great riposte and undoing of the Nazis’ best efforts.
It’s The Mayor of Casterbridge.
http://www.gradesaver.com/the-mayor-of-casterbridge/study-guide/section8/
all the best
It is also well documented that 19th century Jews paid large sums of money to purchase and “re-settle” privately owned tracts of their historical homeland. By 1947 they were major landowners in present-day Israel.
Freedom of speech does not mean freedom from all consequences.
The first ammendment states that govt can’t fine you, or put you in jail because of something you said. It says nothing about odius people not being punished for saying odius things.
Bert Lance, was forced to resign as agricultural commissioner when he was caught telling a racist joke.
A former gov. of Texas was forced to give up his run for re-election when he was caught telling a sexist joke.
In politics, saying things that upset people get you punished. It shouldn’t be any different because the group you insult are the Jews.
Sadly, there are many who grew up in the Jewish community who will denigrate Israel right up to the denouement and even after. M.J. Rosenberg comes to mind, as does anyone associated with J-street, or Brit Tzedek and other egotistical groups. Deep down they have convinced themselves that the Jew-haters will reward them and keep them safe for the service they have given to their masters by betraying their fellow Jews.
Support for Israel in the USA is transforming into a moderate-conservative cause. Those on the either extremes, left or paleo-right share the same hatred of Jews. Noam Chomsky and Ron Paul or Pat Buchanan are in agreement when it comes to Jews and Israel.
And that alone should clarify: Left and Right are directions around a circle, not along a line.
This demented fossil ought to have been pensioned off many years ago, after all, just what is it she is contributing to the world at large other than her hatred of Israel. As to the alleged ‘peaceful aid flotilla’, why deliver aid to Gaza yet neglect those in genuine need in North Korea? In the 90′s, close to a million people died from famine, and with the recent sinking of a South Korean naval ship and 45 dead, there are more sanctions for N. Korea on the way. So why then are aid workers not arriving there in droves to demands they open her borders so they may feed those in need of food? Couldn’t possibly be publicity, could it?
I just read that Helen Thomas’ parents came to the US from Lebanon. Is this true? If so, it would explain her attitude. Her last name, Thomas, sounds so European that I would never have thought she was from the Middle East.
The only one who needs to go somewhere is Helen – back to Lebanon!
How many will stand proud in America, with the Helen Thomas types, when Jews again wear the yellow star? We are being seeded with propaganda leading the way..desensitizing the world.
Remember, ‘terrible choices’ that our ‘leaders’ will say they are forced to make to ‘safe guard our homeland’. BS at it’s finest.
The USA is the one stitch that holds the tapestry together..if we respond, instead of standing back..we will have WWIII We are all on edge and we need to stop and realize we have a leader in the WH that does not like US> Where is he leading Us??? I refuse to go to war because of Israel…or using Israel being attacked as an excuse, and I’m afraid that’s coming soon.
Allowing Helen to spew her crap is a symptom of this administration’s hate. She just piles up with the mosque being build in NY,and a hundred other things that are being “allowed”…desensitizing.. If we are not careful we will wake up wearing burkas, in food lines, or camps. I am “really” down on all this, it is depressing to even think about!!
HELEN THOMAS…OUT IN TO THE HALLWAY!!! Along with one BA apology!! to be heard around the world. Gibbs needs to be asked about it, in public..
Yes, Helen Thomas should be fired, she should have been fired a long time ago.
It is a sad thing when the only person in the American administration who will give unequivocal support to Israel is Joe Biden. Think about that. Joe Biden.
Yes, Helen Thomas should be fired. That would be the moral, ethical thing to do. Screw that…keep her where she’s at and milk it for all it’s worth. Guilt by association. Pick a target, expose it, freeze it. The Press Pool’s Helen Thomas view…the Administration’s Helen Thomas view…the left’s Helen Thomas view of how the Israeli ‘problem’ should be resolved.
Since the POTUS uses English as a second or third language and has trouble with certain words, it occurs to me that Helen Thomas is actually the perfect person to play the role of “the White House Press Corpse.” For that alone, they may just want to hang on to her.
Helen Thomas is perfect in the role of “the White House Press Corpse.”
As is written on the wall of a Berlin synagogue–Vergiss es nie! Never forget. The best hope for America and for Israel is the armed citizen. Note that the same lefty-loonies who a few years ago were yelling that Bush and Cheney were going to deprive us of our liberties were also yelling to take away all our guns. And they’re still yelling. But the Supreme Court stood up for our most basic right–the right of self-defense. Of the millions of Jews (and others–don’t forget the others, gypsies, homosexuals, whoever) rounded up between 1939 and 1945, there must have been hundreds of thousands old enough and capable enough of handling firearms. Had they been armed and trained, one can’t say there wouldn’t have been a Holocaust–but one can say there would have been a Hell of a lot more dead Nazis. So now let them all, the home-grown, the imported and the overseas jihadis, Jew-haters and hoc genus omne, keep yelling. One needs to know where one’s enemies are–it saves ammunition.
The niqab was created for females like this; Give me her size, and I’ll buy her one.
And, it sounds like she has been partaking in the ‘Afghanistan Gold’ available to her and the other media elites at the White House.
I’ve seen whacked out junkies make more sense then these idiots! And they are supposed to be reporting the news?
PLEASE BRING BACK TIMOTHY LEARY AND MAKE HIM THE EDITOR IN CHIEF!
One of the funnest reasons for her to go back to Lebanon – she will have to wear a burka!
Being free to criticize is one of the hallmarks of democracy.
However, I am also free to criticize those who apply double standards to Jews and Israel. When you heap scorn on Israel for doing things that every country does, then it puts your motives in question. When you declare that Israel has no right to the same actions that you excuse in others, it puts your intelligence in question.
When you declare that Jews have no right to defend themselves, then it puts your very humanity in question.
Clearview – Cut the cheap shots. Everyone knows that what you and other phonies have written about Ariel Sharon and what he never said is a lie made up by a pro Palestinian group to suit their cause.I hope you don’t believe me because I want you to follow up my statement on camera.org.They’ll help clear the truth up for you Clearview. The lie was written in Georgie Anne Geyers syndicated article in the Chicago Tribune,later retracted by the Chicago Tribune, and shown finally all to be instigated by a Pro-Palestinian media group.My what a surprise. Do you guys ever write anything positive, or are you going to blame the powerful Jewish Press for deleting all of your nurturing remarks?