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I was having trouble embedding YouTube on this site yesterday, but now it has succeeded. I commend to all of you the words of former NYC Mayor Koch (now shown above). Koch is speaking extempore in support of a pro-Israel demonstration in New York today. I hope Senator Schumer will attend, because he too seems in opposition to Obama’s Middle East policy – something quite incredible for such an orthodox Democrat.

According to a report in Politico, the Obama Administration is running around trying to shore up it’s “pro-Israel image” (note: image, not reality) lest their loyal Jewish vote suddenly hemorrhage. Of course, they could do a lot by urging the LA Times to release the tape of Obama with Rashid Khalidi that the Times is sequestering in its safe. But they won’t. I am sure of that.

Speaking of reliable votes, one of the most deeply reactionary (word chosen quite specifically) aspects of our political culture right now is the very concept of the ethnic/religious vote. What a backward idea that is, not to say self-destructive to the very groups that follow the various (most often Democratic) parties so slavishly. They lose all their leverage in the process and, especially in the case of poorer minorities, improvement almost never comes. They have been bought in a very real sense.

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Meanwhile, if you’re in the New York area, please attend the rally for Israel outside the Israeli Consulate Sunday at one p. m. EDT. I wish I could be there.

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  1. 1. Belladonna Rogers

    I, too, wish I could be there. I’ve sent a link to your post to everyone I know in the NYC area, and I hope that all your readers will, as well. It’s important to have huge numbers there, especially since the Newspaper of Record will doubtless underestimate them. It will be interesting—in an obnoxious, depressing way—to see where that once decent newspaper places its story about the protest, assuming, which I don’t, that they cover it at all. May the demonstration be the shot heard all the way to the clueless West Wing and the equally ignorant State Department. New Yorkers of the world, unite!

  2. 2. Slveryder

    If I was anywhere nearby or even near a train to get nearby, I would come. Alas, I am not. However, my full support is with you.

    • Delia

      My sentiments too. That doesn’t mean we can’t help make this go viral so enough NYers have notice! :)

      • Carol

        Exactly. Post this on every blog, send the info to blog owners, send it to your friends and family. And do it fast. This is tomorrow and tomorrow is almost here.

        • Delia

          Exactly, Carol and THANK GOD for the INTERNET information age!

  3. 3. Carol

    Thanks PJM for covering this. Here are some links for readers who may want to find out more info abut this rally:

    http://www.israelnationalnews.com/News/News.aspx/137133

    http://atlasshrugs2000.typepad.com/atlas_shrugs/

    ANYONE WHO LIVES IN OR NEAR NY, PLEASE GO TO THIS RALLY IF YOU CAN. SPREAD THE WORD. WE ALL NEED TO BE SPEAKING OUT IN EVERY WAY WE CAN.

  4. 4. Delia

    God bless Koch! I forwarded this to my neighbors.

    “Speaking of reliable votes, one of the most deeply reactionary (word chosen quite specifically) aspects of our political culture right now is the very concept of the ethnic/religious vote.What a backward idea that is, not to say self-destructive to the very groups that follow the various (most often Democratic) parties so slavishly.”

    Roger that, Roger! Ain’t it da troof?!

  5. 5. glenn

    Like the British pols in 1937-38 Barry and company don’t have a reality. They all got elected promising warm puppies and good times and no heavy lifting. Like the Brits we are going to get Blood, Sweat, Toil, and Tears. And no Americans to bail us out for our foolishness. Glad I’m old.

  6. 6. EscapeVelocity

    Roger Simon,

    Is this the first Jewish Tea Party rally, you were talking about last week?

    • Steve

      Ditto. ‘If not now, when?’ could be the tea party motto. Ed Koch says Christians are not supporting Israel as much as they should. That may be but I think it is a cheap shot since Dems and Jews have been lukewarm to say the least of Christian support in the past.

  7. 7. Carol

    Here’s something you can easily copy and paste and send to friends. We need to get the word out FAST:

    RALLY TO SPEAK OUT AGAINST OBAMA’S POLICIES TOWARD ISRAEL

    SUNDAY, APRIL 25
    ISRAELI CONSULATE
    2ND AVE (BTWN 42ND & 43RD), NYC

    For more info:

    http://www.israelnationalnews.com/News/News.aspx/137133

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kxG82kKYGos&feature=player_embedded

    http://pajamasmedia.com/rogerlsimon/2010/04/24/if-not-now-when-mayor-koch-attacks-obama-israel-policy-supports-ny-demonstration/

    http://atlasshrugs2000.typepad.com/atlas_shrugs/

    SPREAD THE WORD AND ATTEND IF YOU CAN!

  8. 8. Professor Guvinoff

    Amazing how everyone seems afraid to speak up. The muslims rulers had 14 centuries to develop the practice of intimidation to the level of a fine art, and most of us had no understanding whatever of this process until 9/11. We still have an awful lot of catch-up to do. We have to learn enough of the Koran to realize that the so-called “religion of peace” (PC running amok) is teaching the duty for every muslim to emulate the prophet Mohammed, who personally beheaded several hundred Jews upon returning to Mecca.

    We talk at length about the presumed Muslim “moderates” and refuse to consider their silence. Why don’t speak up if they really disapprove of their “extremist”‘s deeds? Thankfully, a small number of courageous Muslims and former Muslims do, but that is a very small minority indeed. We should remember that the only sensible way to handle bullies is to confront them. They do back off, but in the meantime they manipulate everybody, and that includes the white house, the state department and even the US military! Kudos for Ed Koch for bringing it up and PJTV to echo it. Stop making excuses for those who practice preemptive dhimmitude, starting with the POTUS. If not, more “Major Hassan” will “surprise” us.

    • “muslim moderates” don’t appear in meaningful numbers because they DO NOT EXIST. It is not possible to be moslem and moderate. Stop hunting for a snark and embrace what our own civilisation teaches us.

      SIC VIS PACEM PARABELLUM

      ISLAMO DELENDA EST

  9. 9. Professor Guvinoff

    Forgot to mention that there is a generous fraction of women within the brave minority of Muslims and former Muslims who have the courage to speak up. It is far more dangerous for them than it is for the rest of us. We should keep that in mind before mindlessly clamming up.

  10. 10. Oscar the Grump

    Secretary Gates couldn’t answer this question. In the event of a Jewish attack on Iran, they will have to fly over Iraq. The US considers Iraq a no fly zone, meaning they will shoot down unauthorized aircraft. Will the US forces attack Jewish aircraft in their fly over Iraq? Gates couldn’t answer the question. Is the US providing a shield for Iran? This is one question Obama must answer to and bare its consequences in either direction. He can’t have it both ways.

    • Delia

      OMG. Good question, Oscar! Of course pasty-faced Gates wouldn’t answer the question. Someone throw a hot-pepper-pie at his smug-arsed face already!

  11. 11. Gerry

    Koch, Dershowitz, and Marty Peretz, to name just three “pro-Israel” stalwarts, ignored Obama’s 20-year relationship with Rev. Wright, and they shrugged off Obama’s foreign policy advisers:- Brzezinski, Power, Rice, Malley, Kurtzer, and Indyk. It was right in front of them. Now they wake up and smell the coffee. In this case, it may not be “better late than never”. The Obama Addministration has done so much damage, not only to Israel, but Poland, Britain, Czech Republic, Honduras, India, France, and other allies of America, that it may be too late to correct.

    • Carol

      I agree wholeheartedly. It’s good to see them coming around, but I sometimes fear it may be too late. Still, we must move forward and, as you say, better late than never to grow our numbers.

    • Delia

      Nobody wanted to be called a ‘racist’, for one and many Leftist Jews have been activists for people of color. When Michael Jackson wrote “”Jew me, Sue me” and “Kick me, Kike me” in one of his songs, Jews (again) looked the other way.

      After 9/11, the fact that people voted for a man named Barack Hussein Obama who hid most of his personal background speaks volumes about our country wanting so badly to put behind not only racial prejudice but religious prejudice which opened up the perfect chance for a Trojan Horse COMMIE.

      EPIC FAIL, AmeriKKKca.

  12. 12. Carol

    Mr. Simon,

    I wonder if you might consider adding a feature at PJM that readers could readily see related to a POLITICAL ACTION ALERT. This rally tomorrow is a perfect example of information that appeared at the last minute here and on other blogs. And here, it easily gets lost in the shuffle of all the other headlines. I thought it might be helpful to have a way for readers to identify things like this more easily.

    Just a thought. I know it’s easy for me to sit in my chair and throw out ideas. I’m not the one cranking out this amazing publication every day. I thank you from the bottom of my heart for what you have created here.

    • Delia

      Excellent idea, Carol! A news-ticker alert system for something politically important would definitely benefit PJM readers IMHO!

    • Roger L Simon

      Carol, to be frank, I was informed of this event very late. In fact neither I nor PRM was informed. I found it by accident. That wasn’t too bright of the organizers, considering that Pajamas Media gets vastly more traffic than all their websites combined and multiplied by roughly a hundred (or more) They should have informed us. PJM gets over sixteen million page views a month. I don’t want to embarrass the organizers to say that what they get…. If you want to win, you have know who your friends are and get it together. We’ll take it from there. All suggestions welcome.

      • Carol

        Mr. Simon, You’re very gracious to respond. I had another idea after I posted that one. (And, Delia, glad you like my first idea. You’re such a regular here, I appreciate your enthusiasm!) Here’s the idea: Instead of PJM readers scrambling around posting info on other sides to help spread the word, I hope you/PJM maintain a mailing list of sympathetic folks/organizations/blogs who you send info to when it pertains to time-sensitive political actions. You could mail it “bcc” and spread the word exponentially with the click of your mouse.

      • Delia

        Roger, your immediate vigilance over something that was brought to you so late in the game is duly noted! You rock!

        • Carol

          Yes, I’d like to join the every-gracious Delia and say “thank you,” Mr. Simon, for reporting on this. It’s been frustrating to visit other conservative sites (as well as Jewish orgs) and find nothing on it. How frustrating to have such an important even so poorly organized. Thank you, again, for your ongoing passion and commitment to get the word out about so many matters of importance.

  13. 13. Warren Bonesteel

    The left is setting Israel up to be the bad guy. The current adminstration is doing the same thing. In the end, Israel will have no choice but to strike first before it is taken out by Chinese and Russian-backed Iran, Turkey, Syria, Lebanon, etc.

    Part of the scenario is about power and control. iow, The Muslims have gained too much power over the world over the last few decades and they need to be taken down a bit, so Israel will be the patsy. Then, the fight will be between Russia and China and the US and what few Western allies we’ll have. If Israel lights off all of it’s nukes in The Sampson Option scenario, at least half a billion Muslims will be dead within a month or two from starvation, disease and radiation poisoning, all other considerations aside. The resulting WWIII will mop up most of the rest of them. From the pov of the “PTB,” there is even a possibility that it might even take care of that pesky “Jewish problem.”

    Now, this little scene that I’ve described isn’t an exact description of what is happening or will happen, but this assessment is pretty close. You’ll probably watch it play out in real time over the next six months to eighteen months. It’ll be this scenario or something very close to it, anyway.

    While all of this is going on, of course, the Mossad won’t be sitting around with their thumbs up their butts. Assassination chic. Coming soon to a nation near you.

    When WWIII gets rolling along pretty good is when the civil wars start, here, China, Russia, India…

    (You folks didn’t believe me when I told you that the economy was going to tank, or even way back when – when I told you that Islam wasn’t a religion of peace. Hell, some of you still think Obama is an American citizen and that The Constitution is still in effect.)

    • Eden

      With the extermination of all Muslims our troubles will be over right, so Warren why the long face? Civil war here means you can get rid of all those Americans you disagree with so Don’t Worry Be Happy.

      • Delia

        Eden, if it comes down to ‘us or them’ are you going with ‘them’?

        If you’re not a Muslim, you do realize you are an INFIDEL?

        Will you submit to ISLAM and all of its vile sickness in order to save your own head? Even being a dhimmi has it’s downside.

        • Eden

          You are right Delia, but can we at least spare some of the children, you know as the good book says the female children that haven’t known men?

          Numbers (31:17-18)
          “Kill every male among the little ones, and kill every woman that hath known man by lying with him. But all the women children, that have not known a man by lying with him, keep alive for yourselves.”

          • ahem

            Eden: Misinterpreting the Bible will get you nowhere.

          • Whilst it must be exhausting to have to hunt and choose out of context twaddle to post from the Bible, if you ever want to swap to a hate-spewing confection of nonsense whose every page contains an affront to civilisation- definitely choose the Koran.

            Or the Harry Potter books. Whatever floats your boat.

  14. 14. Pedro

    Unfortunately demonstrations will have little effect on Mr. Obama.Plus he knows he has the Jewish vote in the bag.

    • Delia

      Demonstrations don’t always have to have the singular purpose of simply influencing the ‘Leaders’ but also can serve a dual and perhaps even larger purpose of opening the eyes of the ‘followers’.

      • Pedro

        Delia you make a valid point to a degree. I think however, that demonstrations unless massive, have a minimal effect on anyone.

        • Carol

          I think speaking out as a unified voice and having prominent people speaking out, is important. I also think that for it to have an impact it needs to be often and loud. And I agree that numbers showing up at events needs to become large (though we already have evidence to see that even when that is the case, the media will downplay it). We are losing the media war and MUST counteract the trend. Is the goal to shift things at the highest level of government? I’d say so. Otherwise, what is the point? I think that part of that process involves educating the public, being a visual and vocal presence, thereby helping to turn the tide of public opinion, opinion that can then express itself to the powers that be. We all have an opportunity every day to find a way to do our part.

  15. 15. Warren Bonesteel

    The point is that Israel and the Muslim Majority nations in Southwest Asia are unwilling cat’s paws for the major powers. Israel will be placed in a position where it will have to strike first, in order to ensure its own survival. At that point, in the eyes of the media and of left-wing socialists, Israel becomes the ‘villain’ of this set piece. However, as I said previously, using Israel as a cat’s paw is a very dangerous game.

    It isn’t just about oil. It isn’t just about killing Muslims or killing Jews. There are other natural resources in Southwest Asia that the US, Russia and China need – or need to access. There are any number of geographic and military choke points in the region, as well. Under the current power and control paradigm, anyone who controls those choke points, controls the world.

    China, for example, needs water from the mountains of Tibet and from northern India. Pakistan and Afghanistan also need those waters. It is also constructing a high speed transportation system that will run from the interior of China to the EU, through the CIS and northern parts of Southwest Asia. They plan to run that railway and ‘interstate’ system all the way into Egypt and Africa. They also need to access the oil fields in Russia, near the Black and Caspian Seas.

    Depending on which way Turkey jumps, their hyro-electric system can shut off the water to Syria …and Iraq. Yes, they can shut down the Euphrates River system, the same way we shut down the Colorado River.

    Russia has already limited the amount of gas and oil coming through it’s territories to the EU, and at other times, has threatened to shut it down completely.

    Thee are a number of other issues to consider, besides ideological, knee-jerk reactions, including the possibility that your knee-jerk reactions are being manipulated by governments and power mongers around the world.

  16. 16. Warren Bonesteel

    These factors are on top of everything else that’s going on around Israel…and the Russians and the Chinese don’t want to abandon their already hefty investments in these projects.

    Keyword:

    ‘China wants high-speed rail link to India’
    ‘Putin wants high-speed rail system.’
    ‘China Promotes Its Transcontinental Ambitions with Massive Rail Plan.’
    ‘China new silk road.’
    ‘Russian oil pipeline maps.’
    ‘China oil pipeline maps.’
    ‘china india water conflict’
    ‘pakistan india water war’
    ‘iraq turkey syria water’
    ‘Southwest Asia geographic choke points’
    ‘Turkey Hydroelectric dams.’

    The Muslims and Jews are kinda in the way, you see…and the Muslims aren’t very good cat’s paws, anyway. They ‘zig’ when you want them to ‘zag’ and they don’t play nice with other kids. They’re useful up to a point…but then you have to get rid of them.

    The system is blinking red…and someone is going to try to control how, where and when it all comes apart. They’re going to try to ensure that they get to pick up the pieces and put them exactly where they want them.

    In view of past behaviors by the Democrats and this administration, we can look at all of the issues on the table and gain an idea of how it’s all going to come apart, and see who may or may not take advantage of it when it does.

  17. 17. Eden

    Warren maybe correct and there are forces beyond our control setting us up for WWIII, but I’m old enough to have been warned many times about WWIII and it hasn’t happened yet. I haven’t seen black helicopters, no FEMA camps and the UN nor the Russians have ever invaded, though we have been warned many times.

    And Delia has warned us many times about how inherently evil Islam is, she too maybe right. Still being of a certain age and a minor reader of history I have seen inherently evil peoples come and go. Just some examples: Native Americans, the British, African Americans, Catholics, the Irish, the Italians, the Germans, the Japanese, the Russians, the Chinese, the Arabs (the oil embargo), the Japanese again (Rising Sun, they will out produce us and buy the whole country), the Chinese again (see Japanese again) and so we come to the latest menace, Arabs and Muslims. You guys maybe be right, I just don’t think exterminating whole groups of people is the way to go, can I get an Amen?

    As to a American Jewish backlash against Obama and the Democrats, I’ll believe it when the midterm elections prove it. Obama maybe crazy but he isn’t stupid and there is no quicker way to political irrelevance in this country than attacking Israel, ask Cynthia McKinney.

  18. 18. FFF

    I remember reading somewhere that the Jewish percentage of the US population is in the 2% to 3% range. As I remember, Obama’s winning share of the popular vote was in the 53% to 47% range. So if in the next presidential election most US Jews vote against Obama, it’s going to hurt a lot …

    • Carol

      The Jewish population in the United States falls just below 2%.
      If you consider the number of Repubicans who stayed at home and didn’t vote in 2008, you will also see that this is a group that could also turn an election around.
      The same goes for other groups, such as Catholics who support/ed Obama.
      And I also puzzle over why blacks are let off the hook on this one. It seems patronizing to assume that because Obama is (1/2) black that of course blacks will forever support him? But why? I expect my fellow countrymen of all colors to stand for freedom, to defend our Constitution, to care about the bane anti-Semitism, etc.
      So, in my view, if you want to carve Americans up into groups, any single group as the power to turn things around, not just Jews (though Jews obviously should have a very personal interest in some aspects of this).

  19. 19. Gerry

    Abbas has been invited to the White House to meet with Obama. Are any bets being offered as to whether there will be photo ops, or if Abbas will have to sneak in and out of the White House by the back door or the garbage disposal area?

  20. 20. Gil Gilliam

    Would that Wikileaks would be as diligent about pursuing a copy of this tape as they were the video of the gunship footage from Iraq…not holding my breath.

  21. 21. james conrad

    Interesting. If there is a silver lining here it’s that American Jews might be waking up to the fact that the left in the democrat party have been for a long time (maybe forever?) anti Israel & by extension anti Jew.

    • leo

      Agreed, this should be last nail on the love with democratic/socialist/antisemitic party. At least one
      democrat/Jew is taking the lead Thank you Ed Koch.
      I hope many more will follow

  22. 22. Ken Besig Israel

    Normally I would not wish hard times or a tyrannical anti Jewish leadership on any Jewish Community, much less the American Jewish Community where I grew up. But something has to wake up the American Jews before it is too late, and the expose of Barack Hussein Obama as the guardian of the Moslems and the oppressor of Israel that he is might just be what it takes. American Jewish college students are already afraid to express their Jewishness or support for Israel on many college campuses, and I suppose the next step will be to extend that fear to their parents who will soon be afraid to publicly adopt any signs of Jewishness or support for Israel.
    Barack Hussein Obama may just succeed where every other mainstream Jewish organization has failed, ie, to finally and irrevocably split the majority of American Jews away from their heretofore knee jerk ballot and financial support of the now ultra Left anti Israel Democratic Party. Barack Hussein Obama could be the dark cloud with ultimately a silver lining for Israel and for the American Jewish Community.

  23. 23. Ron

    The US won’t be involved, as Isarel already has premission to overfly Saudia Arabia.

    • Carol

      Yes, the Saudis won’t mind the Israelis doing the dirty work for them when it comes to Iran. How conveeeeeeeeeeeeeenient.

  24. 24. Dave

    “…lest their loyal Jewish vote suddenly hemorrhage…”? Wishful thinking, I’m afraid. The reflex vote for Dems is too engrained.

    • Exhibit A

      Dave, you’ve posted a sentiment I see a lot on this and other sites. And perhaps your eye on the future is accurate. But you may want to realize that there are Jews waking up. Koch, Dershowitz and others are an example. Robin of Berkeley over at the AT site is another. There are also other blogs by Jews who used to be liberal Dems and who are now conseravative. As I’m sure you know, there were recently full page ads taken out in major media shining a light on the administrations treatment of Israel. And there’s me. I have to assume there are many others. Will there be enough? I don’t know. Is it too late? I don’t know. But something is happening and it should not be discounted. For you and those like you who write off the majority of Jews in America as knee-jerk Dems, perhaps you’re assumption about that will prove to be knee-jerk, as well.

      • promoguy

        “The reflex vote for Dems is too engrained.”

        So Exhibit A, explain what is happening. My extended family out to second cousins, don’t seem to be getting the message.

        Dave, is correct on this one. The big change will be the pct going from 78 to 65. Big deal. I’ve said to those of my like minded Jewish friends who never bought into this bulls**t, it’s almost like there needs to be a major Israeli incident and I mean MAJOR to open some eyes.

        • Roger L Simon

          promoguy, you sound very passive and lazy for someone in PR. I bet you’re not. You’re also insulting to me- someone who was a fairly well known leftie Jew and now runs Pajamas Media with sixteen million plus page views a month (1.1 million uniques – more than most newspapers). How did that happen? You’re worried about not enough Jews changing – get out and do it. It’s your responsibility. Quit bellyaching. Change happens if you make it. It’s people like you who can do it. Remember Churchill. Never give up.

          • promoguy

            Wow, Roger. Wish I had the money to take a few years off and start a blog or a Jewish PJM but unfortunately not able to do it. Actually, not passive at all. I was never a leftie Jew who became right. Not sure when you first voted Republican or even if you are a registered Republican. But my guess would be around 2000. I on the other hand actually saw the light during the Carter administration, although I didn’t vote for him and changed my registration in 1980.

            And I also wasn’t putting flowers into rifles back in the day. I was carrying one. So let’s cut the passive crap.

            And I’m not in Public Relations.

          • Roger L Simon

            promoguy, with respect, I wrote: “promoguy, you sound very passive and lazy for someone in PR. I bet you’re not.” In other words, I bet you’re not passive. You’re only “sounding” passive about not getting people to change their mind. Sorry, if I took if I misjudged your occupation from your handle.

          • Carol

            Mr. Simon, I agree that we must all carry the message forward. And, to promoguy I would say that there’s a lot in between doing nothing and starting a major blog. It sounds like you have tried hard to convince family members, to no avail. That is incredibly frustrating. Perhaps there are others you can focus on and/or perhaps you may want to rethink your approach with them. Support good organizations that are fighting the fight on the front lines every day. Be a voice in support of Jews and Israel at blogs all over the Internet. Write letters to the editor. Get involved with political campaigns of candidates you believe in (hard to find these days, I admit). If you’re a member of a synagogue, talk to the Rabbi and/or others there to see how you can spread the word. Help wake up those who are sleeping and help those who are awake to stay awake and intensify their efforts. There’s a lot to do. Feeling discouraging and predicting more of the same is easy to do. Hang in there. Sometimes it’s easier to feel discouraged than to allow oneself to believe what one hopes for the most and risk disappointment. Let’s take action and make our hope become reality.

          • Carl Sesar

            Roger,

            Here’s a comment of mine posted on your blog in PJM about four weeks ago:

            20. Carl Sesar:

            Obama wants a war in the Middle East. He wants Israel destroyed.

            I believe that most of the 80 percent of the US Jewish electorate who voted for Obama gave their support and approval for this sordid agenda, which was perfectly obvious to every Jew during the 2008 campaign. Some minds among that 80 percent may have denied or rejected it, but they embraced it in their hearts, and sad to say, still do now.

            I haven’t heard even one of my fellow Jews in America express regret for having cast a vote for Obama, neither among my ordinary, everyday friends and acquaintances, nor among celebrated members of the tribe such as Ed Koch, or Alan Dershowitz. Shame may be a factor in some few of those reluctant to acknowledge their mistake, but Ed Koch, and Alan Dershowitz, and others like them, have no shame.

            http://pajamasmedia.com/rogerlsimon/2010/03/26/how-not-to-make-middle-east-peace/#comment-150328

            Suddenly, out of the blue, two or so days later, much to my surprise, Ed Koch came out with the very first of several strong statements he’s made up to now against Obama’s actions toward Israel, and soon after that, other prominent Jewish Dems followed suit, most recently, as we know, even Chuck Schumer.

            It’s probably coincidence, but I like to think my post may have triggered Koch’s move. Did you perhaps alert Ed Koch to my comment?

        • Exhibit A

          Explain what is happening? What can I say? Some Jews are shifting their views. Others, not so much. I think we all have to work relentlessly to help that shift happen as fast as we can. I see no point in pessimistic pronouncements. It does nothing to advance our interests.

  25. 25. Hermie

    Schumer is only making these statements because he feels threatened by the Tea Party and those Jews whose eyes have now been opened. In the end though, he will parrot the Obama line because he fears the loss of black and far left Jewish votes than moderate and conservative Jewish votes.

  26. 26. Raymond in DC

    Ron writes, “The US won’t be involved, as Isarel already has premission to overfly Saudia Arabia.”

    Maybe, maybe not. But absent a staging area much closer to Iran, an Israeli strike will be far less effective. Even a single sortie will be exhausting for the crews. There will be no quick turnarounds. Iran will be on full alert. And there simply won’t be the resources to take out critical IRGC sites or conventional (e.g. naval and missile) sites, thus allowing Iran both to retaliate and to take action to close off the Straits.

    The Saudis will preserve deniability, thus allowing them to blast Israel for their “aggression”. In the meantime, the US will set a high price to be paid in Israeli coin for their “recklessness”. All because the US and the West were too feckless to stop Iran.

  27. 27. promoguy

    1. Ed Koch seems like a bright guy, but didn’t see this coming.
    2. 78 pct of American Jews voted for Obama out of racial guilt.
    3. Jews feel that voting for a democrat is putting a knife into their parent’s and FDR’s heart.
    4. Jewish students aren’t afraid to speak up against and are part of the problem as they all follow in lock step with their leftist instructors.
    5. Jews will still vote in a majority of 60 pct for Democrats, because secular leftism is their religion.

    As someone above said quite brilliantly, it’s a good time to be old.

  28. 28. ricpic

    Koch has made a career as did Moynihan of being the Democrat who calls out other Democrats on their vicious hard left ways. But like Moynihan he always returns to the fold, always when the chips are down sides with the left and votes left and urges us to vote for those same Dems. It’s all shtick. And mendacious destructive shtick at that.

  29. I heard that Ed Koch was also Pro Death Penalty.

    I myself, am Anti-DP. Not because I think that killing a murderer, is MURDER, but because all governments love to kill their own people.

    In case you haven’t noticed, the Left doesn’t fight fair.

    Pubic TV just about makes me lose my lunch, when Billie Moyers comes on to whine. I CHANGE THE CHANNEL!

    The Left forces itself on us, every second of every day ad infinitum/nauseum.

    Green this, Green that, go Green, or we will KILL YOU!
    Greenup Daze in Gayvermont…OMG! Go clean your room! Scrub that toilet…Wash your hands 700 times per day!

    We don’t ever win an election…We STEAL them.

    To sum it up; The Left does not TOLERATE the truth, but it hates RESISTANCE OR OPPOSITION OF ANY KIND, WORSE.

    If the Jihad takes root in this country as it has in Euro…Fox News and all vocal Right Wingers are going to be blown to dog food, and fast.

  30. 30. promoguy

    For some reason I can’t reply to CAROL above. Your comments are funny. Who’s discouraged. Not me. And I find it very teacherish on your part to lecture. I’m sure you mean well, but I might be a lot older than you and actually didn’t care that much for school when I was in high school.

    • Carol

      Promoguy, Point taken. I apologize for “lecturing.” That is distasteful. Glad you’re not discouraged.

  31. The Left, where it doesn’t believe in a Supreme Being, raises people like The Big OH to God status.

    No matter how badly a DimoDeity, screws up, He/She gets a pass.

    The Washington Press Corps…Right? When The Big OH sees the word, corps on a teleprompter, he pronounces it, CORPSE, on at least 3 different occasions, I’ve heard.

    Leftards Are Idol Worshipers…
    http://4merly-a-person.livejournal.com/181739.html

    Then, we’ve got the little fellow OF COLOR, who seems to have gotten too big a charge of Ritalin, that morning and is terrified that Guam is going to Capsize, as Amerika runs away from yet, another evil foe, without defeating it.

    Emotionally and Mentally Challenged 3rd Grader Hank Johnson…D, GA
    http://4merly-a-person.livejournal.com/180819.html

    The young woman who told me about Little Hankie, said she laughed at the video.

    I CRY TEARS OF RAGE!

  32. 32. stuart williamson

    Based on the President’sremarks at the end of the multinational nuclear security talks, the following appears to be :

    THE OBAMA DOCTRINE

    It is in the vital national security interest of the United States to reduce foreign conflicts, because, whether we like it or not, we remain a dominant military superpower. Therefor,when conflicts break out, one way or another and regardless of any special relationship, we must not get pulled into them, for that ends up costing us significantly in terms of both blood and treasure.  

  33. 33. John

    Again, you can go back to New York, circa 1990, when people could have just as easily have said, “It doesn’t matter what David Dinkins does in Crown Heights. Jewish voters will support him against Rudy Giuliani in 1993.”

    Turned out, while there are some Jewish voters who’d flip the level for Ahmedinjad if there was a ‘D’ next to his name, there is a point where a large number of Jewish Democrats are willing to finally say ‘stop’ and — at least in their own short-term interests — vote Republican because the Democrat office-holder has just gone too far in his actions to alibi away for anymore. Dinkins was supported by Jewish voters in New York in 1989 for the same reasons they backed Obama 19 years later — to feel good about themselves, with the naive belief that electing the first African-American mayor/president would end all racism in the city/nation, and with the equally-naive belief that the candidate was someone who held the exact same positions on the major issues of the day as they did.

    Obama’s pretty close to that ‘stop’ line right now, though he still has two years to correct that problem, and I’m under no illusion that if the Jewish vote for the 2012 Republican presidential nominee doubles or triples from McCain’s 2008 total that it’s anything more than just a strategic move, and those same soft-liberal Jewish voters will go back to pulling the ‘D’ lever once they think everything’s OK again.

  34. 34. bigben

    The latest Quinnipiac poll is the first sign of the seismic rumblings of change among American Jews.
    Obama’s treatment of Isrel has unleashed a torrent of classic anti-Antisemitism on the blogs, such as Huff Post and CBS.

    The Jew hatred is getting personal, and when the poll curtain closes, American Jews who are not of the 100% self hating ilk will be voting Obama out of office.

    How long until Sham Emanuel’s kids who attend a Jewish Day School convince their dad to leave that toxic center of anti-Antisemitism?

  35. 35. EV

    Is there any coverage of this event online yet?

  36. And, Bigben… Please be careful with the PC version of what’s really happening…IT’S JEW HATRED, not anti-Semitism.

    Muslims and Arabs are Semites. Evil People hate Good People.

    It started with the pharoahs, who were all married to their sisters or daughters, and dressed and acted like women. How did THEY treat the Jews?

    Then, the Romans, jealous Pharisees, and MohamMUD, showed up on the sceen and began slaughtering Christians. The Romans, for entertainment.

    Muslims on Jihad and Leftists are all a bunch of psychotic, phobic, narcissistic, man(ADULT)hating little girls. On their best day.

    • Delia

      Little girls are little girls and shouldn’t be conflated with assholes. Why has ‘little girl’ become some a castigating remark? Dark ages much? We really need to move beyond that crap. Your being was ripened in a WOMB, nourished by a BREAST and birthed out of a VAGINA. When we stop tearing each other apart because of our sexual and hormonal apparatuses we will ALL BE BETTER for it. How many societies are KILLING children just because they are BOYS like CHINA?

      Please, think before you tripe.

  37. Ahhh, Delia…I love little girls and boys. I just detest them, when they look like adults,(kinda.)

    My comment is addressed to emotionally stunted little girls and boys, WHO DESPISE EVERYBODY IN THE WORLD, ESPECIALLY THEMSELVES. Who grow up physically, but not emotionally. Sounds as if you are one of THEM!

    Emotionally and Mentally Challenged 3rd Grader Hank Johnson…D, GA
    http://4merly-a-person.livejournal.com/180819.html

    This is what Narcissistic Flower Children Of The Damned, elect to the US Congress. Not to mention, the Foul Mouthed Harvard Smart Lunatic, Al Frankenstein.

    Does this make me a DREADED RACIST?

    Neo Marxist Feminists hatred of Dad and all things Male, have vaporized Western Civilization.

    http://www.shatterdmen.com/feminist_agenda.htm

    THE FEMINIST AGENDA — In their leaders’ own words:

    1. “The simple fact is that every woman must be willing to be identified as a lesbian to be fully feminist.” (National NOW Times, Jan.1988).

    4. The most merciful thing a large family can do to one of its infant members is to kill it.” (Margaret Sanger, founder of Planned Parenthood, in “Women and the New Rage,” p.67.

    Virtually everything you sniffed at me in your screed, was PC Gobbledegook…Newspeak.

    On another blog, I posted some of the Femarxigirl’s comments, and a little Unicorn Jockey Chick, got back to me…I haven’t had such a good laugh in a “FORTNIGHT.”

    Then, the little poseur, told me what a fortnight was.

    Abortion is your highest sacrament…Homosexual sex is # 2(LOL!) Suicidal Pacifism is # 3.

    Finally…Ed Koch DID NOT ATTACK ANYBODY! HE DISAGREED WITH THE OBAMESSIAH. Lunatic Narcissists, FEEL that just by our drawing breath, and not becoming a Body Snatcher, is an ATTACK! Drink some more Kool Aid, PLEASE!

    • Delia

      “Does this make me a DREADED RACIST?”

      No, you don’t sound that well organized.

      I’d say you have a lot of pent up anger and probably use a lot of porn and hate women because you might be fat and ugly and sit in a cold dark room with your porn fix and realize you are too ugly to even get a half-way good looking woman to have any interest in you so you blather on at a website with your inane, pathetic man-child drivel hoping for someone to give you attention.

      I’ve only given you ‘attention’ in the hopes that you serve as an example as to ‘what not to be’ regarding a human being (sex/religion/politics aside).

      You, madame, need help.

  38. 38. Carol

    Here are links to the first round of reports on today’s rally:

    http://atlasshrugs2000.typepad.com/atlas_shrugs/

    http://www.wpix.com/news/local/wpix-israel-obama-rally,0,3700132.story

  39. And, Delia…Tripe is a noun.

    PJM…If you are having difficulty letting my last comment stay up, would you just strike the part where I mention Kool Aid?

    I’m guessing, that’s what’s giving you trouble. Actually, I’m not asking her to off herself, rather, if she drinks enough of it, it will render her unable to rave at people, online. Down at the bus station, where I won’t have to listen to her, insanity.

    I only wish, creatures like Ahmadinejad, OBL, Kim, Putin, to have a Celestial Discharge.

    I would take a bullet for the Obamessiah, for the USA.

    Leftists celebrate when people like Jerry Ford and Tony Snow, die.

    We cannot even DEFINE, evil any more.

    • Delia

      ‘tripe’ was a play on ‘type’ in case you didn’t get it. ;)

      China aborting little boys was supposed to be an ironic lie.

      Little girls are [generally] far better ‘behaved’ than little boys so calling someone a ‘little girl’ isn’t exactly the ‘insult’ you might intend it to be.

      Just sayin’, homey.

  40. Tell me once again, what a fortnight is, Goddess.

    It has nothing to do with the sex of the Adult Child. Anybody who is terrified of Trans Faaaaaaat, and is completely blase, about 911, beheadings, Muslim men(sic,) marrying 13 year old girls and raping them to death, has a personality disorder, called Narcissistic PD…Hysteric PD, Borderline PD, Bi-Polar and is Schizophrenic, to name a few.

    Narcissists are Adult Children, to the point that they are actually AUTISTIC, according to Scott Peck.

    I’m tired of Smiley Feces and CommUNist Piece Signs(White Flags.) Please go scald out your cat food cans and bring them to the Tabernacle(Recycling Center.)

    You are REALLY doing something to SAVE THE WORLD!

    • Delia

      Oh I fully agree, trawler. Man-children who prefer bum sex with boys (or women for that matter) have serious mental issues.

      Man-children who create a religion that requires removing a female’s sexual pleasure organs is a jealous nutter of the umpteenth degree (jealous not only of the womb/breasts/vagina but jealous of the clitoris which was given to a woman for no other function but for her pure pleasure which must surely make a man jealous and weep for his sad, limited saggy-scrot/peen combo).

      Many women who claim ‘feminism’ are anything but. They want to be ‘men’ in the worst form of the term. There are good men and good women. Both sexes can be complete and utter jerks given enough power.

  41. 41. EV

    Pam Geller (Atlas Shrugs) has photos and coverage…

  42. Amelia BeDelia…Thank You…I Think..

  43. Please look at this carefully, before you jettison it for being OFF TOPIC..

    ANY TIME YOU DISAGREE WITH A LEFTIST, YOU ARE ATTACKING HER! There is a Root Cause for this. Neo Marxist Feminism.

    Dr. Ruth Wisse, of Harvard said…Neo Marxist Feminism has done to the American Family, what Communism did to the Russian economy, and most of the damage is irreparable…

    Leftism is Feminine, in a Psychopathic way. Grown men, with pony tails and matching earrings in either ear…Puleeze!

    And, Delia…Little boys have been turned into little girls by their Lestist Wimmin teachers, with RITALIN.

    Testosterophobia, is the most wide spread Mental Illness, in the world, today.

    http://www.dadi.org/hysteria.htm

    While Narcissism seeks to kill the G-d of our forebearers, Hysterical Feminism seeks to kill the cultural traditions of millenia. Both are goals that rival Genesis, and yet both are succeeding. From clinical experience I have learned, never underestimate the power and determination of pathology. Remember Faust.

    As with most personality disorders, the diagnostic hallmarks of the histrionic are the evolved childish protections against the knock, knock (or Tick, Tock) of anxiety and maturation. They are the protection against the universal impulse for union and procreation. The monster under the bed has been displaced by anything which smacks of the “masculine”. The anxiety of becoming a responsible parent has been displaced by the eraser of abortion – the power to kill responsibility. The need for security has been replaced with the demand for government entitlement (another person’s money) without having to struggle with human reciprocity. I am woman, just hear me roar!

  44. 44. impoundguy, Los Angeles, Ca.

    get back on your Meds….

    • Cmon, Roger…Lighten up a little. When one of these little twinks ATTACKS me, let me respond in kind. I DON’T DEBATE WITH CRAZY PEOPLE. I don’t know why you run interference for them. They hate you as bad as they do me.

      Repo Man,

      You are not the FIRST to prescribe drugs to me. What is it with you freaks?

      Here are two complete strangers, threatening to kill me and PRESCRIBING PSYCH MEDS, for just my BREATHING WHILE SANE

      Evil people attack and murder good people. NOT, the other way around. Raving Hair wants to KILL me, LOWCARB want’s to knock me out. WTF? (I’m 4merly_a_person)

      RavenHair said:
      Ohhhhh 4merely a prisoner c’mere boy open up nice n wide Mamma’s got a nice big lead aspirin for ya. Nite Nite Mutha F—a “o)

      (NOTE; Raven bragged of having a semi-automatic hand gun…A Desert Eagle. I declined her offer for a “NICE BIG LEAD ASPIRIN.”)
      Then another of the Manson Family, chimes in…

      Locarb (ElCarbo) said:
      Make sure you take Cogentin with your Chlorpromazine to avoid extrapyramidal effects, and don’t forget that phenothiazines can cause neuroleptic malignant hyperthermia. Sweet dreams.

      (Note on Locarb/ELCarbo: This is not referring to his diet, rather, he FEELS that he produces less CARBON(a SOLID,) than I. CO2 is a GAS…And, under DIET…ELCarbo, lists…Anything without a central nervous system.) OOOOOOKAAAAAY…That’s BLEEPING NEUROTIC!

  45. Roger,

    Everything a Liberal HATES, which is EVERYTHING, comes from hysterical psychoses. Libs are TERRIFIED, of guns, testosterone, war, fetuses, real car engines, FAT, Dad, The Bible and ESPECIALLY MEAT!

    It’s nothing new. Please forgive my taking a passage from the New Testament. It’s right on the MONEY!

    Is there ANYBODY more smug, than a MILITANT GRANOLA HEAD? Their PHOBIA of meat, is absolutely visceral and very unhealthy. B12 Deficiency causes irreparable psychosis (Google it if you wish.)

    Romans 14
    The Weak and the Strong
    Accept him whose faith is weak, without passing judgment on disputable matters. One man’s faith allows him to eat everything, but ANOTHER MAN, WHOSE FAITH IS WEAK EATS ONLY VEGETABLES. The man who eats everything must not look down on him who does not(I don’t,) and the man who does not eat everything must not condemn the man who does(THEY MOST DEFINATELY DO,) for God has accepted him.

    Therefore let us stop passing judgment on one another. Instead, make up your mind not to put any stumbling block or obstacle in your brother’s way. As one who is in the Lord Jesus, I am fully convinced that no food is unclean in itself.

  46. Roger and company,

    Ed Koch is an Old Fashioned Liberal Jew. He is PRO death penalty, and from this article, OBVIOUSLY PRO ISRAEL.
    Wasn’t Koch replaced by Davy Dinkie? GOD GOD!

    Ed Koch, Zell Miller and Joe Lieberman, are the last 3 living MEN of the Democrats(Joe’s not a Dem any more.)

    Myself, I’m anti-death penalty. Not because I’m against punishing the wicked, rather, IT’S WHAT GOVERNMENTS EXIST TO DO! Kill their own citizenry.

    The US Government, on its INCEPTION, was as good as it ever got. Now, we live in the USSA, very soon to be under Sharia Law. It’s the NATURE OF THE BEAST!

    The Sirens and Harpies of The Left, successfully keep us busy, with their perpetual Crying Of Wolf, RAPE, FIRE, MAN, and MURDER! We spend every waking hour, appeasing, placating, pacifying and SOOTHING, the poor Flower/Mulch Children Of The Damned.

    The trouble is, people on my side, don’t give any credit to people like me, who’ve been savaged by the Left, for most of our adult lives. I’m sure not looking for sympathy. God knows, I’ll NEVER find any of that!

    Islam and Leftism are PURE EVIL!

    http://www.hawaii.edu/powerkills/NOTE1.HTM

    Just to give perspective on this incredible murder by government, if all these bodies were laid head to toe, with the average height being 5′, then they would circle the earth ten times. Also, this democide murdered 6 times more people than died in combat in all the foreign and internal wars of the century. Finally, given popular estimates of the dead in a major nuclear war, this total democide is as though such a war did occur, but with its dead spread over a century.

    PS, I took my moniker from one of the Lefty Lunatics. I got tired of them trashing what I put up as my nic.

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