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The Manhood of the West

May 22nd, 2013 - 3:56 pm
Waiting for the Police

Waiting for the Police

A British soldier was decapitated a few hundred yards from a UK Army base by two men with large knives saying: “We swear by almighty Allah we will never stop fighting you.” The men were shot when police responded 20 minutes later. The photo above shows a scene:

This is the dramatic moment a woman appears to remonstrate with a man carrying a knife following a brutal attack in Woolwich.

The two alleged attackers are thought to have waited around for 20 minutes until Metropolitan Police officers arrived and then tried to attack them — but were swiftly shot by armed policemen, including a woman.

“Remonstrate.” Now there’s a word to conjure with. The Telegraph describes the behavior of the onlookers — the attackers asked the crowd to take their photo, which they apparently did:

“There was only a few people at first then traffic began to build up because people were getting out of their cars to shout at them they were taking no notice, they were standing there, I think they were proud of what they were doing.

“When they dumped the body in the road, these two black guys had the opportunity to hurt other people if they wanted to because there were brave women with the dead guy on the floor, they were shielding and covering him. The attackers with the knives were standing over these women.

“The guy with the gun, the tall guy with the beanie cap on, even a bus had pulled up — he was going over to the bus and asking people to take his photo.”

Then the killers allowed only women to come forward to succor the dead or dying man:

He said: “My friend and her mum were walking up the hill and the mum came straight to the victim.

She asked the black guys can I help him? And one of them said he was already dead but she could go.

Then one of them said ‘No man is coming near this body, only women’.”

“She was so brave, she didn’t care what happened to her — she knelt down by his side and comforted him.

She held his hand and put her other hand on his chest. I think she might have been praying.

My friend (the woman’s daughter) was crying her eyes out. The victim was wearing a Help for Heroes T-shirt.”

Mr. Tallant said the two men were walking up to people with cameras so they could be seen and filmed.

He said: “They wanted people to know who they were.”

The women came forward. Children in nearby schools were locked down by their teachers.

This incident illustrates, if nothing else, the endpoint of the social engineering of the West. It has been remarkably effective.

From a certain point of view, the British crowd behaved perfectly and this is the way “they” all want us to behave. The populace sheltered in place, didn’t do anything rash, talked to the perpetrators as people. They waited for the police to come and the hospital helicopter to take the corpse away. Some will doubtless get counseling to overcome their shattering experience.

And then they will congratulate themselves on how tough British society is; resilience and all that. The more caring will leave some flowers by a railing and hold a few candle vigils for healing and peace, until these wither and blow away and the news cycle washes up a new object of attention.

The attackers knew they were actors in a drama — as keenly watched in their communities as on the BBC. And in that other audience they were asking: “How will the locals behave?” We know now. And that other audience may derive an entirely different lesson from this tableau: “See? Only their women act like men. They follow orders. They are nothing anymore — these Westerners. They are a civilization whose core has been destroyed.”

And would they be right? Who will be the judge? Per C.S. Lewis:

And all the time — such is the tragi-comedy of our situation — we continue to clamor for those very qualities we are rendering impossible. You can hardly open a periodical without coming across the statement that what our civilization needs is more “drive”, or dynamism, or self-sacrifice, or “creativity”. In a sort of ghastly simplicity we remove the organ and demand the function. We make men without chests and expect of them virtue and enterprise. We laugh at honor and are shocked to find traitors in our midst. We castrate and bid the geldings be fruitful.

What could go wrong?


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Mental midgets like Glenn Greenwald are already on the job explaining how cutting off a head is actually my fault. The same page mentions the 4th day of burning riots in Stockholm, also my fault.

9/11 is my fault, so is my response, black crime is my fault, not enough women writers in science fiction is evidence of my hatred. Then when there are, not enough get reviews, also my fault.

Racist "Avatar" is my fault, "white-washing" Khan in the new Star Trek is a testament to my own racism. If I want people like me in pop entertainment I am a racist. I know that cuz people who want to see people like themselves told me.

I don't like Obama: racism. Too many people emigrating here: me - racist.

I'm in charge of "rape-culture" and I don't properly portray Sikhs, Muslims and Asians in my films and books. That's because I am a colonialist culture thief and a racist. I know that cuz foreign nationals awash in baseball caps, Twiiter, microwaves, subways, freeway signs in Dubai just like in Kansas and laptops told me so.

I colonized most of the world, therefore hopelessly altering its trajectory onto a negative path forever and that sin can never be fixed. Even if it could, I'm still a racist, and with the power so its irrelevant.

Civil war, me racist, end slavery, me racist, cloud passes over sun, me racist, Charlie Chan, racist, all writers before last week, racist, Lawrence of Arabia, racist, Wizard of Oz, no diversity, near-Earth orbit, private racist club.

Murder at the Boston Marathon, that was me. I cheered as Hindu and Muslims died at the Indian Mutiny and I created Gandhi and MLK. I did a dance as an Aztec Empire disappeared forever and I make volcanoes erupt cuz white people really don't live around volcanoes.

I yawned as black folks in the South were hosed by gum-chewing Billy-Joes in the South and instead wondered why my reception to Leave It to Beaver wasn't better.

I steal oil from Arabs cuz they're Arabs and my bombs are carefully crafted to kill people with brown skin.

I'm a racist when I wake up and I'm a racist when I go to sleep. I have drawers full of privilege I don't know what to do with and I can't clean it off. It won't come off cuz I can't scrub away my racist skin. I can never be a good guy, never be innocent.

"Old, white, men" are like "Ol' Scratch" nowadays and cities too full of pasty faced people are "frighteningly white," just like "The Exorcist," but I don't remember black and Hispanic folks setting up tents in Regan's bedroom when she puked racist vomit.

I created Detroit, Gary and Compton, I guided Katrina, and did it along the old path of the Atlantic slave ships for a chuckle, I created shanty towns, terrorism, Haiti, and the miracle on the anthill that is Mumbai.

Allow me to introduce myself: I am white, straight and male. Can someone help me?
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"The men were shot when police responded 20 minutes later."

When seconds count.......

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What if those "suspects" had started decapitating the woman show in the picture? What then, send another woman?

As a 13 year old boy I came on a man being stabbed on Quezon bridge and drove off the attacker by pitching Coke bottles. I went right down to Plaza Miranda to call a cop, and as I recall, went on to have a bowl of noodles.

That was nothing brave. I'll bet that two generations ago ordinary boys and girls in ordinary neighborhoods would have done as much without thinking. What struck me most about the British crowd scene was even the Manobos and Mangyans would have acted differently.

I think the normal human reactions are being bred out of us. These instincts were formed by millions of years of natural selection. They are essential for our survival. How has it come to this?
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The EDL gets a bad rap. They are mostly Irish Catholics who would be happy to let Brits of all ethnicities into their group -- as long as they are pro British. They were marginalized as racists much like as was done to the Tea Party in the United States.
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First, let's make sure we all understand something about British law: Let's say you are a bystander at this horrendous attack. You see see one of the attackers drop his gun. You pick it up and use it to save the life of the soldier. YOU have broken the law and YOU will be prosecuted.

There was a similar case a number of years ago (though I cannot find it at the moment) of a British police officer being attacked who was crying out for help and no one came to his aid.

And then there was the story of UK police literally preventing neighbors from coming to the aid of a woman trapped in an upper story flat fire.

This is a culture that has been conditioned by its government not to take initiative.

1 year ago
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"And then there was the story of UK police literally preventing neighbors from coming to the aid of a woman trapped in an upper story flat fire. "

Are you saying that it's against the law to come to the aid of someone in a fire? That seems awfully unlikely to me. Could they possibly have just been ensuring that only trained firefighters with the appropriate equipment (bunker jackets, breathing apparatus, etc.) were the only ones put at risk of the fire (other than the people trapped within of course)?
1 year ago
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Now for some more bad news, the world really is going crazy, from The Ukraine (no silly ass Ukrainian is going to tell me not to use the article "The" before a country name starting with a "U" such as "THE" United States of America)

"at 12 pm, a group of 25 heavily armed men in cars without registration plates climbed over the fence of the Sailing Academy yacht club and without presenting any id introduced themselves as the representatives of the
Vyshgorodski region's executive service and the Ministry of Defense of Ukraine. Supported by numerous rangers of special forces, they occupied the whole territory without presenting the resolution on enforcement.
Entrance of the club was blocked by the car with the taped state registration plates with equipment for burglary. These unidentified persons hang locks the gate and did not allow anyone to enter the territory of the yacht club....

The Sailing Academy made appeal for the Supreme Ukrainian court and will apply to European Court. The land disputes and raider attacks initiated by the state in Ukraine became quite regular event due to attractiveness of land plots as well as defunct and corrupted court system."

So now Eric Holder is the AG of the Ukraine?????
1 year ago
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We don't write "the America."

The idea, propaganda, of using 'the' in front of Ukraine came from Stalin & Co.

We don't call Belarus as "the Belarus."

As for myself, I'm a creature of habit -- flipping between both forms.

Stalin's use of a determinant ('the') represented a political demotion of Ukraine down to the locus of, say, "the Donbass."

It's a twist of history, but Ukraine is the older polity, predating Muscovy.

Both are now understood to have been established by Norsemen/ Vikings circa the tenth century. The Russian experts have dug up the oldest graves finding them loaded with Norse art and runic inscriptions.

Both cities were founded because the Norsemen needed local help to get past river rapids (Kiev) or over a land bridge. (Moscow)

[Moscow is to the Volga what Akron is to the Ohio River. In both cases, the ancients discovered that one could transit from one river system to another with but a short, flat, portage between.

The vital aspect of a Viking long boat was its super robust keel -- that could take the beating when hauled across land. They 'owned' the riverine 'shipping' business because no one else had access to the trees (and tools) required to craft such keels.

The Vikings were the kings of steel for their era, to a degree only now being appreciated. Their (crucible) steel quality was nine centuries ahead of the rest of Europe.

Persistent marriage with the locals caused the Norse settlements of Muscovy and Kiev to go entirely local within three generations. That's what the grave goods tell us.

Kiev was always a bigger conurbation than Moscow -- until the Mongols changed the rules permanently.

These days you can hardly believe the disdain Muscovites have for Ukrainians. I know because plenty of recent transplants live and work nearby.
1 year ago
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That is ok that the Muscovites disdain the Ukrainians, because the worst insult you can lay on a Ukrainian is to confuse him for a "spit" Muscovite... As for me, I will stand with Ukraine.
1 year ago
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A palate cleanser from the Kranz Dictum

"From this day forward, Flight Control will be known by two words: 'Tough' and 'Competent.' Tough means we are forever accountable for what we do or what we fail to do. We will never again compromise our responsibilities. Every time we walk into Mission Control we will know what we stand for. Competent means we will never take anything for granted. We will never be found short in our knowledge and in our skills. Mission Control will be perfect. When you leave this meeting today you will go to your office and the first thing you will do there is to write 'Tough and Competent' on your blackboards. It will never be erased. Each day when you enter the room these words will remind you of the price paid by Grissom, White, and Chaffee. These words are the price of admission to the ranks of Mission Control."

They don't make many like Gene Kranz in NASA anymore!
1 year ago
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Ever read what Wayne Hale said about the loss of Columbia?

He said that Apollo 13 was NASA - Houston's greatest moment. And he regrets so much they never had the chance to do the same thing for Columbia.

And a main reason was that so many of the people at Houston took the attitude, "So what? We can't do anything if there is a real problem with the wing anyway!"

That's the difference between people dedicated to a mission, like they were for Apollo, and ones dedicated to a government job, which is what Shuttle really was all about.
1 year ago
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It is funny how reality bites back -

We have threats against the first amendment and reality counters, London head hackers.
We have a blanket amnesty bill and we get the Tsarnaev brothers for example.
We have Quantitative Easing and a trillion dollar give away to illegal aliens.
We have the gun show loophole and the DoJ counters with Fast and Furious.
We have ObamaCare death panels and are answered with the IRS attacking enemies.
We have the administration claiming Osama Bin Laden is dead and get Benghazi.
We have Obama saved general motors and they are now opening up a plant in China.
We have the second amendment being attacked and we have the Belmont Club.

And the biggest lie of them all is that the Tea Party is a racist organization. That is blood libel and likely to incite murder. It is yelling fire in the movie house. It is appalling and it is being promulgated by the government.

The Brits should demand their Dane Geld back. That is what victims do. They demand retribution for events long settled.

The British government long ago marked the people of that land as genetically inferior and marked them for genocide. The Left being polite as it is persuasive has now only begun to mop up the final elements for the final solution to the British question. You don’t just go and murder 100 million people. You replace them one by one with a genetically superior copy. That is what nature does and that is why it works so well at the behest of Progressives. Nature abhors a vacuum and Political Correct theory is precisely what causes a vacuum. It destroys culture, heritage, and a will to reproduce. Progressives have hit upon the formula that the Nazis’ failed to grasp. Kill them softly with their own words and their own guilt. If the Nazi’s just taught Jewish blood libel for a couple of more decades the Jews would have exterminated themselves just like the Brits are doing.
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Two news items this morning:

"Two Muslim hardline preachers say that one of the suspects in the killing of a London soldier was interested in their teachings. One was OMAR BAKRI MUHAMMED. Spiritual leader and founder of the group al-Muhajiroun. The group catapulted to notoriety after the Sept. 11 attacks by organizing an event to celebrate the airplane hijackers. Bakri, who now lives in Lebanon, had been one of the most aggressive voices of radical Islam in Britain. Members of the cell behind the July 7, 2005, London transit bombings also had links to the group.

The government banned al-Muhajiroun after the July 7 attacks but it has reformed under new names — such as the Saved Sect or al-Gurabaa, which have also been banned."

Okay, so the Brits actually banned a Muslim group? Well, good for them! Have we ever banned any group? But then, we got guns.

And also:

"Britain is bracing for clashes with right-wing extremists and possible copycat terror attacks after the brutal slaying of a young soldier.

London's Metropolitan Police said more than 1,000 officers will be sent to potential trouble spots with armed response units. Only a fraction of Britain's police officers are armed.

Terror analysts say the attackers wanted the publicity to inspire copycat attacks, and that they are already seeing an increase in chatter on extremist sites calling for such attacks."

Note they are worried about the "right wing exremeists" as well as the muslims. How many people have the right wingers run over and hacked their heads off? Anyone got a number on that?
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The bystanders watching this crime unfold are as guilty as the men with the weapons they used to kill that unsuspecting victim. The 'stand down" mentality has replaced honor, integrity, decency. For shame. For shame !!!!!
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Read up on British law.

It's flatly illegal for Brits to engage in self-help.

It's 'for shame' that you are unaware of how absurdly impossible it is for good citizens to intervene.

Picking up a weapon to intervene is a crime in Britain. No civilian under any circumstance is permitted to discharge a firearm at another person. Only a subset of the police force is authorized to use deadly force.

The civil damages/ liabilities are in orbit for such offenses.

Don't blame the crowd.
1 year ago
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I do blame the crowd; you have to do what is right, consequences be damned. Take MORALLY CORRECT action and dare the authorities to charge you. If nothing else, you save a life and elevate the discussion. I could not stand idly by but then, I'm not British. That's also why we are now an independent nation. We have back bones.
1 year ago
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Speaking as a Brit, you are perfectly right. The crowd has already agreed to being castrated when they voted for successive governments since the war that all have policies of castrating the voters.
I would do as my conscience dictated, even if it meant breaking the law. I would rather be true to myself than regret later.

America, Obama is cast in the same mould as the Socialist republic of UK. This is your future unless you wake up.
1 year ago
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Have the English turned into the Eloi?

1 year ago
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This was sickening: the goblins' actions and the crowd's spineless reaction to it all. They should have grabbed whatever blunt objects were available and beaten the tar out of them.

And WHERE were the soldier's military mates? Were they, too, cowering behind closed doors? Or were their castrato commanders keeping them locked up so they couldn't charge out to waste these two?

In other news: I saw James Levine (conductor of the Metropolitan Opera in NY) on the television, being feted for something or other. A woman I used to know worked for a European impresario, and she told me that JL is a known chicken-hawk. Trolls the Port Authority for little runaway boys. The NY cops know of this habit of his, and they wag their fingers at him if they catch him, and escort him home. She met him backstage at a concert in Berlin, and she told me his dressing room had several beautiful little boys waiting, with some apprehension, to be made use of by the maestro. She was sickened by this (this gal was a NY Democrat, btw; but with a sense of decency). Of course the guy has Never been touched.

Corruption and pederasty. And the Boy Scouts just made all the straight boys available for the sodomites as well. It's only a matter of time before they cave on the scoutmasters issue -- and the chicken hawks can't wait: they'll be lined up around the block.

But we have to think of the sods' feelings, not protect our boys.

One last note on the Intolerance Front: remember that beautiful little blond boy in the movie Master and Commander? who played the very young midshipman? A sailor I know who was one of the extras on the shoot said they kept the little fellow drunk most of the time, and he was almost positive that some of the men were using him as a catamite.

Well, that's Hollywood, right, Polanski? Who are we to judge? just let the children get raped, heaven forbid that any of us commit a social faux pas.
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They'd all be locked up for such riotous acts.

White on Black violence would be prosecuted to the maximum of the law.

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Random thoughts on what happened in London:

1) The jerry's called the jerry's. The first responders had no arms, so they had to backtrack up the enforcement chain. So the response time of the police was actually pretty good, but immediately they self-doubted. Took twenty minutes to get the back-up in.

2) The butchers had a casual even apologetic relationship with the crowd. It was bizarre to see these guys walking around with blood on their hands talking freely with bystanders, even asking them to film things. But when the police got control they shouted, shoved, menaced, screamed, erected barriers and police tape, flew in helicopters, shut down avenues, set up tents, etc. It's a very odd comparison of how both elements interacted with the crowd.

3) Brits will knock your teeth out. Their soccer hooligans are not legendary in the annals of such things for naught. They fought: Romans, Scots, Welsh, Irish, Normans, Vikings, etc. leading up to Superpower Status for Europe's salad days. Those guys did that. Odds are, if those Nigerians pulled this in other places in Britain they'd already be roasted on a spit before the jerrys found them.

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Crowds of people react to a new outrage by initially following the old, accepted patterns.

Commentators are generally correct in that, in the murder of Drummer Rigby, the reaction was timid and restrained.

Reason- the UK population has been conditioned by the media (BBC, Guardian and other 'progressive liberal' media/newspapers) and the legal system to be spineless in the face of such events. Instances of persons slotting burglars in their own home in the past have resulted in prosecutions. This keeps the population docile and easy to control.

Take the awful parallel of 9/11 and the conditioned, initial response of the passengers of the first three aircraft to remain docile whilst they were flown into oblivion, even in the face of murderers cutting the throats of stewardesses to gain access to the cockpit.

The passengers of UA93 were on a steep learning curve following the initial expected response to obey the orders of the Captain, as they assumed. Once they had ascertained the real situation, they planned and reacted courageously to storm the cockpit and the hijackers.

This butchery of Drummer Rigby caused the BBC and Government to go into containment and obfuscation mode, fearful of the reaction of the indigenous population. For instance, by saying how terrifed the Muslim population was of a backlash and singling out the minor event of a small number of EDL supporters who later clashed with police.

The usual denials - 'These people were not real Muslims, this was not done in the name of religion'. One Muslim woman interviewed then had to perform a back flip with two half twists to get round the interviewer mentioning that the murderers were shouting 'Allah u akbar' and reciting Koranic lines as they hacked the victim to death.

The British people have now had time to absorb the enormity of what happened and the backgrounds of the perpetrators (well known Islamists that the Government had not had the cojones to address).

I suggest that the British people have recovered from the shock and will now adopt the old adage of 'If you want something doing properly, then do it yourself'.

Any handy implements and 'a few good men' will do the trick in future.
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White on Black violence is harshly repressed by officialdom. It passes
as common knowledge that the civil damages can, and usually will, cost you your home.

The guilt or incivility of the original perpetrator is irrelevant under British law WRT civil damages.

British law demands that you call the bobby -- and that's that. That holds even if your are being attacked in your own home and the perp is armed. Yes, homeowners have lost theirs in civil damages to the perp -- even though the perp was sentenced to prison for a home invasion.

Europeans are limited to harsh language -- but only so far as it doesn't hurt anyone's feelings.


White on White -- no problem.
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