A European colleague of mine lives and works in India. Recently, he came to visit. His story was unbelievable. For the last few years, every day, day after day, he, his wife, and his wife’s family have been harassed and attacked by Muslim marauders. Both his property and his medical clinic have been attacked; his Hindu wife and relatives have had their cows stolen and slaughtered, their outbuildings destroyed, their farm property taken over. The police would not help. He had to hire private security to guard his free clinic. Finally, Muslims attacked the clinic when it was filled with patients (including, of course, Muslim patients). At the last moment, before the clinic was entirely overrun, the police reluctantly came to his aid. He had to pay many bribes, pull many strings—and still, the matter is far from over.
He did not want me to write about this. “It is simply too dangerous for a Hindu to describe, accurately, what Muslims are doing to us in our own country.” He assured me that neither the government nor the media could be counted on to “do the right thing here. The media will not say that Muslims are criminally aggressive. They are too afraid to say so. They know there will be rioting. It’s already happened.”
Sound familiar?
And then, Mr. Tapan Ghosh found me. Ghosh is an incredibly brave and determined Hindu human rights activist who is taking on these Muslim immigrants, criminals, rioters, kidnappers, rapists, and traffickers of Hindu girls and women.
Tapan Ghosh
In 2008, Tapan Ghosh founded Hindu Samhati (Hindu Solidarity Movement), dedicated to strengthening Hindu identity and serving persecuted Hindu communities in Bangladesh and West Bengal, India. A Physics graduate of City College in Calcutta, he first got involved with the Hindu Revivalist Movement in India in 1966 and led a mass civil disobedience campaign against the policies of Prime Minister Indira Gandhi in 1975-77. His work grows out of a long history of persecution, including genocidal persecution, of Hindus by Muslims in the region, beginning with the partition of India into Pakistan and India in the 1940s and furthermore into Pakistan and Bangladesh in 1971. I had the privilege of interviewing him when he was in New York during a recent tour.
Chesler: How long has the Muslim violence against Hindus been going on? I know it has existed for 800 years or more. I am asking about the more recent series of events in West Bengal.
Ghosh: Though Hindus in Bengal faced massive attacks and massacres during the Partition of 1947 (when India was divided into India and Pakistan and 3/4th of Bengal went to Pakistan), the violence never ceased. In West Bengal, violence against Hindus took place again in the 1950s and from 1964-65; violence continued until 1971, when it eased off for some time. That was during the time when across the border, nearly 3 million Hindus in East Pakistan (now Bangladesh) were killed by the Pakistani Army, as part of their genocide to stop the creation of Bangladesh.
In recent times, the violence has been increasing (both in its spread and intensity) every day since the early eighties.
Chesler: What kind of violence did Muslims commit against Hindus in West Bengal and East Pakistan? Please be more specific.
Ghosh: Anti-Hindu violence started on the morning of August 16, 1946, when Muslim League volunteers forced Hindu shopkeepers in North Calcutta (in present day West Bengal) to close their shops and Hindus retaliated by obstructing the passage of League’s processions. With the tacit support of the police, the Muslim mobs went on a rampage, looting Hindu-owned shops, attacking Hindus with clubs and knives, and raping Hindu women. After a week of violence, an official estimate put the casualties at 4,000 dead and 100,000 injured. Other sources put the death toll at 6,000. Most of the victims were Hindus. The riots in Calcutta spread to other regions, reaching Noakhali, a remote district in present day Bangladesh, where a massive pogrom was organized against the Hindu minority. The death toll is estimated to be in the thousands, with 51,000 to 75,000 Hindus cleansed from this region.
General Yahya Khan, the military dictator of Pakistan, while speaking to his top military brass once said, “Kill three million of them and the rest will eat out of our hands.” The liberation movement for Bangladesh was characterized by an escalation of atrocities against the Hindus and pro-liberation Muslims. Hindus were specifically singled out because of their perceived proclivity to the Bengali language. Bengali, which has strong roots in the Sanskrit language and Hindu culture, was considered as a hindrance to the Islamisation of East Pakistan. In March 1971, the Government of Pakistan and its supporters in Bangladesh, the Jama’at- e-Islami (The Party of Islam) launched a violent operation, codenamed “Operation Searchlight,” to crush all pro-liberation activities. A large section of the Hindu intellectual community of Bangladesh was murdered, mostly by the Al-Shams and Al-Badr militia, (both were military wings of the Jama’at-e-Islami). Bangladesh government figures (officially accepted by the US State Department, which at that time of the Cold War, was openly supporting Pakistan) put the death toll at 300,000 even though nearly 3 million of them were never accounted for and are presumed dead. According to declassified documents from the George Washington University’s National Security Archives, consisting of communications between US officials working in embassies and USIS centers in Dhaka and in India, and officials in Washington, DC, the terms ‘selective genocide’ and ‘genocide’ were used to describe events.
The primary reason why Hindus have been forced to leave East Pakistan (and later Bangladesh) is a draconian law known as the Vested Property Act. According to this law, the government has the power to seize ownership of properties from individuals it deems enemies the state. It was formerly known as the Enemy Property Act (when Bangladesh was part of Pakistan) and is still referred to as such in common parlance. Abul Barkat, a professor of economics at Dhaka University who has conducted seminal research on this act, says that some 1.2 million or 44 per cent of the 2.7 million Hindu households in the country were affected by the Enemy Property Act and its post-independence version, the Vested Property Act, passed in 1974. Successive governments of Bangladesh have promised to repeal the act, but to date, some 35 years after independence, none have done so. According to one estimate, “Nearly two hundred thousand Hindu families have lost 2.2 million acres of land, including their houses, since 2001 alone. At the current market price, the value of the 2.2 million acres of land that the Hindu families were displaced from is about 3.6 billion dollars, which is more than half of the country’s gross domestic product.
Chesler: Please summarize the threats and crimes that have been perpetrated.
Ghosh: The atrocities that Hindus are facing in villages bordering Bangladesh are multifarious. The case of massive illegal infiltration is well known today. What the people of India and the United States don’t know is their activities. This includes crimes which target Hindu women; from relatively small cases of street harassment, to sexual assault, rape, kidnapping and forced conversion to Islam. Incidences of illegal migrants encroaching upon Hindu lands as well as organized land grabbing by Islamic criminal networks are also very common. There is also a sharp increase in the cases of rioting during Hindu festivals, destruction of Temples, desecration of Deities, and large-scale, provocative cow slaughter during Hindu festivals, even in Hindu-majority localities. Construction of large, illegal mosques, often upon encroached land, is happening in all border areas and has changed the landscape of rural Bengal. The establishment of massive Saudi- funded Madrasas across rural Bengal is only contributing to the growing religious extremism among Muslims, implementation of Sharia laws by Chalasi (Islamic) courts is quite prevalent in villages in the Malda, Murshidabad and North Dinajpur districts.
Finally, the Indo-Bangla border acts as a major conduit for smuggling by the terrorist networks and has grave consequences for national security. As a result of the growing Islamization of rural Bengal, Hindus are leaving the border area villages. This change in demography is well established in Assam, and I fear that the upcoming census will paint a grimmer scenario in W. Bengal too. Calls for a greater Muslim Bangla are not unheard of in Muslim-majority districts and my greatest fear is the day when Muslim zealots will give a call for Nara-e-takbir (cries of “Allahu Akbar”) and tell Hindus to either convert or leave Bengal. Where will we go then?
Chesler: Why have the Hindu police and Indian government failed to do anything to stop these crimes against their own citizens?
Ghosh: While India is constitutionally secular, it is also an electoral democracy which means that politicians care about winning elections and cannot ignore the 31% of the Bengali Muslim population that is believed to vote en-masse. The government, both at the State and Central level understand the problem, but do not want to show the political courage that is needed to talk about these issues and address them. Instead they just ignore them.
The Police response is also mixed. Though sometimes they take positive measures to stop these crimes, most often there is severe corruption, and a fear of tackling the Islamic mafia. The fact that governmental higher-ups will not be supportive of a pro-active response also demoralizes police officials at the grassroots level.
But it is not that the politicians and the government agencies are asleep, it is the middle class Bengalis that are in deep slumber. The entire Hindu Bengali intelligentsia and culturally enriched Bengali society could not provide protection to one Muslim lady, Ms. Taslima Nasreen, a poet and an intellectual who dared to raise her voice against Islamic fundamentalism in Bangladesh and had to escape to West Bengal. But the West Bengal government was so afraid, that it refused to give protection to her.
Coming soon in Part II: The role of the Media.
Gosh.
Amazing stuff ..This article is a real eye-opener. Hats off to Phyllis Chesler and PJM for bringing it to us.
How can the world remain silent when this silent genocide of Bengal is killing millions of non-Muslims? Shame on the Indian government for letting this happen. Why aren’t Pakistan and Bangladesh being declared terrorist states by the USA? Why is the US continuing to fall for their bluff.
Americans are solidly behind you, Mr. Tapan Ghosh. Go forth and show these “Mein Quranmpf” followers what we infidels are made of.
Unfortunately,
this is all very true. If anything, the MSM in India is even more pusillanimous than in the US. In fact the law is such that if the Muslims riot which they often do (they rioted today against Quran burning in the US), the criminal will not be the rioter but the so-called “provoker”. Amazing and sadly true.
Sounds like Mr Ghosh needs to compare notes with the gentlemen of the English Defence League (who are NOT at all the ‘fascists’ that they are being called by the British press) and March For England , and with the New Israeli Guardsmen (see Caroline Glick’s site, for more on them and why they were formed…in the Negev and in the Galil in Israel Muslims are doing EXACTLY the same things, though on a smaller scale, that the Bangladeshi Muslims are doing in West Bengal).
Whether it’s Bengal, or Kashmir, or Northern England and East London, or Israel, or…Lakemba and the other south/western suburbs of Sydney, Australia, or the banlieues of France (see the Muslim riots in Grenoble, recently, where Muslims with guns fired upon the French police), the Muslim supremacists and mobsters do **exactly** the same things.
It strikes me that one of the first things that has to happen to stop the advance of the Ummah-mafia is to identify and remove the collaborators and infiltrators among the police and politicians (that is, the dhimmified non-Muslims who do the bidding of Muslims because of bribes [including 'vote-bank' bribery, not just the obvious bribe of money], or threats, or because they are simply naive and blinded by Muslim nonsense and lies [e.g. the Muslim pose of victimhood which can cause well-meaning people to be deceived into pitying and favouring them]; and the Muslims who have inveigled their way into office, which they then use for personal advantage and to advance the power of the Ummah or Mohammedan Mob). One also has to seek out those police, judges, lawyers, politicians and aspiring politicians with a bit of backbone and integrity, who have a bit of a clue as to the danger from the Muslims, and educate them further, and get behind them and PUSH.
Short term: consistent and forceful enforcement of non-Muslim law. Australian police have learned swiftly that if you go to search Muslim premises for drugs/ illegal weapons, etc, you take a large force and the dog squad and have the riot squad on call, so as to deter or squash the violent flash-mobs of Mohammedan males that rush to the scene of any attempt to enforce Infidel law upon a member of the Ummah.
Beyond that, I see no way to save any country which has a large, aggressive and expanding Muslim presence, other than for that country – before the Muslims seize complete control of government and/ or the military – to put a complete stop to Muslim immigration (only exception being the offering of asylum to bona fide publicly-declared apostates such as Ms Taslima Nasreen or Ms Rifqa Bary; bona fides of such apostates to be very thoroughly checked and monitored, just as we did to defectors from Russia or China during the Cold War) and then to resolutely evict pretty much every last Muslim from their soil, starting by the sorts of measures the French have been proposing recently.
Post script: I think Nicolai Sennels book ‘Among Criminal Muslims’ needs to be translated into Hindi as well as English. Sennels has made the fascinating observation that the one thing that Muslim criminals in Denmark genuinely seem to fear is…deportation. Not prison. Not any other punishment we non-Muslims could inflict on them. No: what they fear is being sent back into dar al Islam! Well, if that’s what they fear, that’s the punishment they should get, when they rape and rob and lynch and riot, when they commit or plot FGM or ‘honor’ murders or force-marriages or polygyny or massive welfare fraud, and especially when they attack policemen, schoolteachers, firefighters, and other representatives of the non-Muslim polity in which they (the Muslims) live.
Thank you, Dr. McCosker. An important and informative posting.
One factual error, rather incidental, in the post is the riots in Grenoble were perpetrated by Roma (gitanes) and not Muslim immigrants. More significantly, I also question why non-muslims insist on ignoring what muslims say about their faith and their viewpoints and instead insist on relying on their own readings of the Koran. It’s not unreasonable to look to the Koran for insight on Islam, but it is unreasonable to ignore what practitioners say about its meaning and application to their own lives. As for the events in the article, they should be condemned and India must be urged by the international community to bring these vicious thugs to justice and crush the crime rings that seem to be at the heart of it. Our best (or perhaps our only) defense against Islamic aggression is the light of day and the rule of law. Shalom
Dave, some Muslims I have spoken to, do not even know their own book called Kooran! Others “overlook” or “ignore” blatant violent Verses. Otherwise they might have to leave islam. These Muslims are for themselves “moderates” but don’t dare to speake out. One can find “horses” being needed to fight in allahs cause. I’ve asked Muslims what this could mean, if “Jhihad” mean internal struggle.
Yes, but If they ignore or reinterpret the Koran according to current Western norms, should we not embrace and encourage them? If the vast majority of the world’s Muslims believe (according to a massive survey of tens of thousands of Muslims in 35 countries do not subscribe to the views claimed for their holy text, does that not count? For example, John Esposito sifts through those surveys and finds that{:
* Muslims and Americans are equally likely to reject attacks on civilians as morally unjustifiable.
* Large majorities of Muslims would guarantee free speech if it were up to them to write a new constitution AND they say religious leaders should have no direct role in drafting that constitution.
* Muslims around the world say that what they LEAST admire about the West is its perceived moral decay and breakdown of traditional values — the same answers that Americans themselves give when asked this question.
* When asked about their dreams for the future, Muslims say they want better jobs and security, not conflict and violence.
* Muslims say the most important thing Westerners can do to improve relations with their societies is to change their negative views toward Muslims and respect Islam.
1.6 billion people cannot be our enemies. That is simply not a smart way to go forward in a closely bound world. The notions of abrogation and the violent edicts of the Koran are being trumpeted around the country now as evidence of Islam’s unfitness for participation in modern society. But if Muslims reject those ideas, are they also unfit? Can we reasonably declare them all as hostile combatants and reject their participation in free society unless they reject their holy text? To ask these questions seems to me to answer them, notwithstanding the problems posed by the Koran itself. The adherents to the islamist view must be isolated and ostracized. The adherents to other interpretations, notably Imam Rauf, must be lionized and enlisted in the cause of peace and understanding. Much as the State Depts. of Bush and Obama have tried to do.
thanks, “dave”, we all needed a good laff.
This argument sounded just naive until it designated Rauf as the kind of Muslim the West “needs”. Then it passed into plum ignorant. The poster needs to do his homework on Rauf who is a takiya artist, manipulating westerners through deceit to gain strategic advantage for Islam. Note how with his futher provocation on the lip of 9/11, he presents MUSLIMS as the victims. The only truly moderate Muslims as WESTERNERS understand the term moderate are those opposing the spread of sharia law who also reveal unpalatable truths to westerners about Islam at risk to their own well being (Ibn Warraq, Tariq Fatah, Salim Mansur, Amil Amani, Wafa Sultan,Nonie Darwish etc.). Most of these brave people are apostates by choice or because mainstream Muslims disown and threaten them. They are very few in number.
Perhaps yoou’d better educate yourself. While I believe , as in all religions, there are “moderates” as well as radicalsm I beleive if the muslims of the world want to prove to said waorld they are a religion of peace, they simply need to “take care of their own” so to speak. Eliminate the terrorist threat, but that will never happen. Educate yourself to the fact that deception of infidels is a tenet of their religion, so whom do you trust on just their word. Actions speak louder. Prove you want a peaceful planet.
The continual suffering of Hindus and Sikhs in India (also Hindus, Sikhs and Christians in Pakistan, Bangladesh and Afghanistan)is a very strong warning that this can definitely happen to America and other Western nations. From 56 nations conquered by Islam, Islam’s foot soldiers are colonizing our countries by many millions.
Lulled to sleep by U.S. leaders who deliberately deceive by continuously repeating that Islam is a peaceful religion, many people fail to understand that Islam is unlike any other religion on earth. It is a totalitarian, political ideology that seeks the total control of every human on earth. And is excessively cruel to non-Muslims.
In Western nations, Muslim immigrants are not just given all of the rights everyone else has, Muslims are given special rights and privileges that are denied to non-Muslims. Non-Muslims in Muslim countries and countries with large Muslim populations, live in daily fear. Their lives are a living hell.
the muslims have some pretty big ideas when it comes to an american takeover. they figure they’ve got barry, the imam in the white house.
these islamic fascists have seriously underestimated the american people, however.
if they could do to us what they have been doing to the hindus, they would be doing it. today rauf, barry’s oily muslim con man pal, told us that “ground zero is not hallowed ground”.
their job here is to provoke, injure and inflame the body politic. but soon, they will stop. it’s too hard without a tongue.
we can wipe them out if we have the will to do it. or wipe the floor with them, whichever comes first.
Seriously. Cause that Obama guy thinks he’s like our Imam. He’s like so not. Like Judy said, we should just wipe our floors with their tongues or whatever. Better idea let’s just wipe em all out totally before they infiltrate our country and swipe up all our women folk and everything else that matters.
Yeah, Gosh Ghosh!
In the meantime the US supports and gives aid to Pakistan, and Obama plans the biggest military sale to Saudi Arabia. India should be the US natural ally.
Like this Hindus are doomed. If they can’t even lead their own country where they still are 81%, where a Christian lady who looks down on Hindus governs them.
Now people may understand why Bal Thackeray stated that India needs a Hitler-like politician (mind you, he is against the Holocaust and have nothing whatsoever against Jews, he could have said a Franco, a Pinochet). Otherwise, just forget it. Democracy in poor countries like India can’t handle this, period. Even France is in trouble. Obama (Mr. Religious Tolerance BS), is trying to lead the US that way too.
I hope that tiny Israel is left to give Islam such a lesson that will stun them for the next 100 years. And you know what I mean.
India: Muslim mobs loot and ransack Hindu shops and Hindu temples
http://hindusamhati.blogspot.com/2010/09/no-respite-despite-army-presence-no.html
Read this heart wrenching desperate cry for help five days ago. Neither the New York Times nor The Wall Street Journal has any report of this attack by muslim mobs. Why? It exposes this horseshit lie that Islam is a religion of peace. This is a clear instance of censorship in two of our most trusted major newspapers.
Obama has labeled Americans against the GZ mosque as “radicals,” “a tiny minority.” I think this more than anything he has done so far, exposes his truly evil nature. “Radicals” becomes a group of people the FBI must contend with to analyze and determine if they are a threat, potentially to become “extremists.” It used to be, the FBI would be looking for Muslim radicals. But their handbook has been neutralized, removing “Muslim” from every page. Hm, gee, looks like average Americans who don’t agree with the President can now be called radicals, and put on an FBI watch list. Also, in the arena of Public Opinion, one of the most powerful forces in our democracy, Obama cover this too: he knows full well this label marginalizes those of us opposing the mosque, as a “radical” group for mainstream Americans to disconnect from. Mayor Bloomberg calls us the “New Know Nothings.” It is a game of conquer and divide. Obama,Bloomberg and Rauf would be finished if a majority of mainstream Americans united against them, and against the GZ mosque. If we can save America from Islamization, that would mean we have the right leadership in our country, and only then could we lend a helping hand to Indian Hindus and Christians, and also help save Europe’s ass…again. In the mean time, pray for us. And we will pray for you.
We in the West will soon be fighting a guerrilla war against these thugs full of that satanic creed. Start gathering arms now. And when it comes to pass follow this rule: go for the head of serpent, go for the mullahs.
The hidden Moslem-Hindu conflicts in India are not covered by most of the western media (some in the British press), but there is another war in Bengal which is threatening the stability of India. It is that of the Maoist-Marxists “Naxalities” movement which is spreading throughout Bengal in a style similar to that of the Sendero Luminoso in Peru and of the Maoists who brought down the govt of Nepal. The Indian Police have taken horrific casualties recently and the Indian Army is still mentally tied down on the Pakistani border and in Kashmir.
The convergence of the Marxists and the Islamists is the next logical step in West Bengal as the Islamic wave of expansionism picks up speed. And Obama doesn’t see a damned thing.
Gees.
So it seems where ever Muslims “take over” they make life more than just miserable for all, they absolutely make it ‘their way or no way’.
Sharia compliant or die.
Why?
Do sharia compliant Muslims agree with jihad in any form to propagate Islam?
Raul mentioned that he was surprised about all the opposition to his GZ victory mosque; Why so surprised, and why even say so?
Trying to look naive, comes off as coy and manipulative.
Did he expect Americans to be as submissive as these unfortunate Hindus?
Maybe he’d best be expecting something different as to date his expectations are unrealistic and way off base.
Didn’t the Sikhs arise back in the day for this very purpose? I just read the other day that they originally formed as a secret elite force to battle what was then known as the ‘Mohammedans’ – the Muslims. Seems to me that the only thing that sane, civilized countries can do as illegal Muslims begin to take over is to take the fight to the secret elite level. Ninjas were also formed for this reason and the Muslims themselves developed ‘assassins’ (based from arabic) for the same reason. Wikipedia (I know, I know – but it DOES have good general info!)has info on them. I suppose that India does not allow their citizens to have weapons for self-defense. What a mess. These people and their evil ideology are causing nothing but trouble throughout the whole world. They need to be banned from all free lands and sent to Saudi Arabia. Let them stay there and cause constant trouble for each other.
The fuel for this is Middle Eastern Money!
Chop off the flow of money to these cult gangs of thugs, and they’ll dry up and blow away pretty quickly.
Don’t forget to take down the bankers and financiers along with the leaders. This is why we have snipers and Predators with Hellfire missiles.
Canada has plenty of oil. Stop buying from Saudi Arabia. Read “Ethical Oil” by Ezra Levant.
How many megatons of thermonuclear destruction would it take for India to permanently solve this problem that has been a thorn in their side for centuries?
Even if you could make the fallout from nuclear weapons stay precisely within the borders of the countries you are nuking, presumably Pakistan and Bangladesh – and good luck with that – there are more Muslims in India than in Pakistan and Bangladesh. During the partition of India in 1947, many Muslims stayed in India and, just as other communities grew since then, so did theirs.
Your proposal essentially requires that India nuke ITSELF in order to combat Muslim misbehaviour.
Zdravei Khan. Ti Bulgarin li si? Ha, Ha.
“Nuke” vsichki!
Like Khan Krum used the head of the Byzantine emperor to drink wine, let’s use Bin Laden’s head.
An Egyptian Coptic woman called into Hannity and upset him about this topic when he was discussing the Koran burning. She basically said that Coptic women and Copts in general, but especially the women, are subjected to all manner of brutality and barbarism from the Muslim majority and the Muslims want “respect” for their way of life?
Eff them. The West needs a leader who prove to the Muslim world that their god is dead by burning their sacred sites to the ground in the middle of their holiest days.
Why such a serious and important news should not be sent to the Govt. India particularly the Home Ministry who should be concern about the internal security of the Country.
I also suggest that such a news item should be sent to so called activist such as Tista Setalvad, Mallika Srarbhai. and all other so called Activist and also the HUMAN RIGHT ORGANISATIONS WHO SHOULD KNOW AS TO WHICH TYPE OF ACTIVITIES ARE GOING ON
From my reading it seems undeniable that over the last millenium 80 million Hindus have been slaughtered by muslims throughout South Asia. This sort of Holocaust is without precedence. islam is nothing more than a death cult.
Remember, the reason you won’t read this in the NYT is that it doesn’t fit the narrative. “America is the reason terrorism exists” You know Iraq, Iran (the Shah) Israel, yadda yadda…American Imperialism….
I suggest readers explore the writings of Bat Y’eor. Her theories are proving true. That their is a Euro Arab axis being created, it will destroy western civilization. Of course clowns like these say this about her:
Craig R. Smith in a New York Times article referred to her as one of the “most extreme voices on the new Jewish right.”[39]
Johann Hari, a British journalist, argues that “There are intellectuals on the British right who are propagating a conspiracy theory about Muslims that teeters very close to being a 21st century Protocols of the Elders of Mecca” and that Bat Ye’or is a “scholar” who argues that Europe is on the brink of being transformed into a conquered continent called “Eurabia”.[40]
http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/tg/detail/-/083864077X/qid=1103418597/sr=8-1/ref=sr_8_xs_ap_i1_xgl14/002-6185672-2556844?v=glance&s=books&n=507846
Wow, people of one religion attacking people of a different religion! Who ever heard of such a thing? I’m just glad we Christians never did anything like that. Now, how about another cupcake? Marylin made ‘em special for the bazaar today. Yes, they are, aren’t they, and . . . oh, look, my heavens it’s a flock of geese flying south! Oh, thank you Jesus, for sending this sign, this miracle. Truly we are blessed and anointed.
Beteween the many tactics of roadfellows, useful idiots and collabos one of them was to point at some straw in the freedoom side so they could whitewash the beam in then eye of their Communist and Nazi friends. To divert attention of the crilmes perpetrated by their friends. To scream at the top of their lungs at the least hint of untehical behaviour of those ho opposed the totaliatarain freinds of the collabos so they could cover the screams of those who were being tortured and murdered by the millions. To require from the good guys a perfect behaviour even if that meant fighting with both hands tied and millions would die for it while the Communists got a free hand for playing dirty. Otherwise, teh freedom fighters were deeemed as bad as the bad guys and thir cause not worthy fighting for it.
Nothing has changed except that today the same people wre supporting something Islam instead of Communism/Nazism.
Now for the motivations one can only wonder since those people often weren’t/aren’t Communist/Muslims. Plain old money played a part (the Nazis funded “pacifist” movements in the copuntries they targetted). Trying to look “enlightened” at parties given a by some frustrated and bored university professor hoping this would impress some person of the opposite sex. Or just plain, old nihilism who is nothing more than the adult version of the spoiled brat breaking its toys.
Anyway Mrs Knowitall whta Christans, Muslims, Buddhists or seculars did centuries ago is as irrelevant as what happened in Neandertalian times. What I notice is your complete indifference to the fate of those people who are now being murdered by the millions and your lack of interest in stopping their ordeal. You would pay more attention to the fate of fleas.
Don’t feed the troll. This one’s a particularly unpleasant know-nothing that pops its head up every time there’s the most mild criticism of Mohammedanism. It’s probably doing a little bit of taqqiyah for the cause.
It’s probably not a Muslim so much as a spoilt American (or W. European) lefty with the typical Mommy/Daddy issues that petulant, spoilt children have — hence the Islam love.
It likes the idea of killing and oppression on a vicarious level (having no salt for the deed itself, too dangerous and messy don’t you know)…because it will always be the “little people” (not it in its wonderfulness and holiness that suffers).
So quick you are to dismiss fundamental truths simply because they happened “centuries ago.” I would think you had more commitment to The Constitution.
Now, who are these “millions” who are being murdered today?
Oh to Betty Knows, I can not wait to see you in your burka, not being able to look at or talk to a man who is not related to you or do not know, have to ask permission from a male relative, even your son to do anything outside your home and have sex on demand, that is the one I like, Welcome to the wonderful world of Islam, oh but you say nay these things do not really happen we just make these things up. Open your eyes it is happening all over the world and yes even in America!
Your fundamental “truths” who happened ago and no longer happen will noty save a single live, will not drench a single tear because all the people involved would have been dead from old age centuries ago. Waht I notice is that you couldn’t care less about the brown people of India. That your posts stink racism and nihilism to the heevens.
Skin color should have nothing to do with anything but attitudes do cause problems. All people were made in GODS image, so be careful God can be of any skin color, sex or appearance GOD chooses at that time and place.
The best Betty Watch yet!
What a hysterical little troll seeking attention with another irrelevant little leftie talking point. I swear – I’ll bet Betty is about 6 or 7 years old. It just astounds me that someone could be this clueless and still remember to breathe. Lets just review some recent wisdom from little Miss Betty. We will start with this one:
Cup Cakes Betty? We Christians? Flock of Geese as a sign of God? Common Betty this is too easy. At
least pretend not to be a clueless troll.
Last Time – Miss Betty introduced the term codpiece into a discussion of the apologetic nature of the President’s 911 remarks. This one looses me completely. You are slipping honey. Mommy should make sure you take your medication.
Last time – the Koran burning issue is a chance to spout abortion talking points! There is some relevant debate sweetie!
A previous topic was the use of stimulus money to buy propaganda promoting the stimulus. Miss Boop’s input? She randomly and irrelevantly drops the name of a defense contractor. Wow Betty – you have us there. We should drop the whole propaganda sign issue.
Betty’s earlier answer to the planned Koran burning? Betty is going to have her mom drive her right down there and she is going to toss some bibles in the fire! That will show ‘em Betty!
When lil Miss Boop here REALLY wants to make a point she jumps right in and makes a random little post and gives it increased credibility with her own brand of creative punctuation. Anyone remember this little ditty?
Conservatives overreact to EV.RY.THING!
Wow! That is indeed profound. You win!
You know – I really enjoy engaging the trolls who come around here. But Betty just spouts reused talking points that she herself doesn’t understand. You would think her parents would try to keep her from embarrassing herself.
Who are these millions being killed?
In most of the West including part of the USA people are short sighted. That said in Flyover Country the possibility exists for people to shoot back, or maybe shoot first. So far most people don’t see a local threat and I think almost everyone thinks local.
Thank you, Ms. Chesler for this article, and Mr. Ghosh for standing up. I am showing an email I sent to John Derbyshire concerning an article he wrote called, Let ‘Em In, in October 2004 for the National Review [I believe Mr. Derbyshire has subsequently changed his views]:
“John,
“Thanks for the great article; as usual very compelling. It got me thinking though. I’m now living in Paris and had lived in India for several years. After the British left in 1947 the country was partitioned and Muslims took control of Pakistan and Bangladesh. Even though Muslims have been living in India for close to 1000 years they could not assimilate within the Hindu majority. There are Sikhs and Christians who get along fine. India now has 150 million Muslims or roughly 15% of the population. In 2002, I believe, Muslim militants tried to murder members of Parliament by storm. Imagine the same in London. Or Paris. There has been war in Kashmir for 50 years. For a good read see The Tiger Ladies: A Memoir of Kashmir, by Sudha Koul http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/ASIN/0807059196/qid=1097226381/sr=2-1/ref=pd_ka_2_1/103-2799880-9855859 There are many bombings of government buildings and other violent acts and a general feeling of unhappiness and unease you will never read about in the media. Very similar to race relations in the US. All this after 1000 years of exposure to the benevolent influence of tolerant Hinduism. With no end in sight!
“I could go on for pages about the ways in which Islam has changed India, in some ways for the better (architecture), but for the most part the cultural results have not been happy.”
Reading this interview reminds me yet again what havoc Islam has wrought in India and is now bringing to the hapless West, aided by oikophobic intellectuals and elites. Even Glenn Beck can’t see the danger.
Pakistan and India both possess nuclear weapons? Maybe they prefer this death match by a thousand cuts? Seems that this is the low tech sadomasochistic expression of Mutually Assured Destruction, or maybe some blogger can explain how all of these over educated Bengali Hindu women have bought all this misery upon themselves, due to their brown skin and their how society has excessively feminized and acculturated Hindu men due to their addiction to Bollywood cinema!
Apparently Gandhi was right when he said: “The Hindu is a coward; the Muslim is a bully”.
Many great friends of India in the West have been agitating and documenting the Indian holocaust for years, the Indian marxists in Indian academics and elites and their subversive campaigns (Marxism has failed everywhere but still thrives in India, the same with Maoism), such as Belgian Koeenrad Elst (now resides in Belgium but lived in India for over 10 years), Frenchman Francois Gautier (lives in Auroville, Tamil Nadu, India), and American Dr. David Frawley (travels to India constantly).
Contrary to what Obama wants us to believe, Islam had little to no influence in America’s history (mainly the slave traders in Africa were Arabs and Muslims, but they want to hide that fact). Nor there are 7 million Muslims here either, as Obama said, trying to inflate that contribution (ask yourself why).
Least known or discussed, is the benign influence of Hinduism and Yoga in America. It started with that tremendous address in Chicago to the World Congress of Religions by Swami Vivekananda in 1893, and continued with the founding of the Self-Realization Felloship in California in the 1930s by Swami Yogananda of “Autobiography of a Yogi” fame. It is benign and not well known because Yogis do not push, lawfare or kill/behead anyone although it is true, unfortunately, that many false Gurus have given a bad name to Yoga in the US.
One of the 2 best known American Hindus (the other one is Vamadeva Shastri or Dr. David Frawley), Dr. Frank Morales from New York, now known as Sri Dharma Pravartaka Acharya, and the only non-Hindu priest in the US, creator of Dharmacentral, estimates that there are about a million, and growing, followers of Sanathana Dharma in the US (mind you, these are not Indian by race, Morales I believe is of Puertorrican ancestry, Frawley is German-Irish, in addition there are 1.5 million Hindus mainly from India, gfollowed by inmigrants from Guyana).
Many envision this positive force as one that will grow out of India, and will support the Dharma from the outside. If you count the Indian Hindus, and add the local ones, it is about the same number as the followers of Islam (3.5 millions instead of the double factor used by Hussein Obama). However, while Islam is viewed unfavorably by 49% of Americans in the latest Gallup poll, Yoga and Hindusim is not. Food for thought.
Islam can only grow by opposing, lying, confusing, using deceitful tactics in jails, thus creating animosity and opposition (3rd law of Newton, for every action there is an equual and opposite reaction) while Yoga grows by its beauty.
Surrender to global jihad is massive and it is being done WILLINGLY by our leaders. In Israel’s case, it is either from intense U.S. pressure to surrender, or a combination of U.S. pressure and Israeli leaders willingness to surrender to totalitarian, expansionist Islam.
Israel, India, the Free World is shrinking; global Islamic conquest is going at full speed only because of our leaders’ willingness to surrender to Islam. We are all endangered because of our extremely pro-Islam, non-Muslim leaders.
israelnationalnews
Govt., Police Allowing PA Occupation of National Parks
Sep/13/10
Minister of the Environment, Gilad Arden, says that the government and the police are allowing the PA to take over national parks in the capital. In recent weeks he says Arabs have taken over national park lands in A-Tur, Isawiah, on the slopes of Mount Scopus, and around the walls of Jerusalem’s Old City.
Arden asked for the Prime Minister’s intervention in order to stop the illegal take over of state lands.
http://www.israelnationalnews.com/News/Flash.aspx/193981
Also, Israel’s government is guilty of ignoring the grabbing and stealing of massive areas of Jewish land by Muslims. Muslims have also been allowed to build tens of thousands of illegal buildings and settlements in Jerusalem and throughout Israel.
Hindus, Muslims(who never read Quran), Christian, Buddhists , Sikhs should read the following articles in http://forum09.faithfreedom.org/index.php
Hail to Pastor Terry Jones .. Ali Sina
http://www.faithfreedom.org/articles/op-ed/hail-to-pastor-terry-jones/
Shikwa: Allama Iqbal’s complaint: Ali Sina
http://www.faithfreedom.org/one/shikwa-allama-iqbal-s-complaint/
Is everyone born a Muslim? :Ali Sina
http://www.faithfreedom.org/articles/free-thought/is-everyone-born-a-muslim/
and many more at FFI
This is one of the most one-sided articles I have seen in a very long time. It could almost come from the MSM….
I am certainly not an expert on the Indian subcontinent but I do know that there was a great deal of bloodshed during the Partition of India in 1947 and it was most definitely NOT all Muslims attacking Hindus or Sikhs. In fact, there were a great many atrocities committed by Hindus against Muslims or Hindus against Sikhs or Sikhs against Muslims. Any reasonably objective account of the Partition should make that abundantly clear.
Making Muslims the inevitable aggressor and Hindus the inevitable victim in every act of violence perpetrated in the Indian subcontinent since 1947 (or the advent of Islam on the subcontinent, which took place much earlier) simply isn’t true.
It is VERY hard indeed to take this article, writer or website seriously if they are going to be so grievously dishonest.
Henry, obviously you are not an expert, but appear to be a little misinformed.
Of course during partition, both Muslims and Hindus committed untold atrocities. Also, you are right the aggressors is not always Muslims there.
But the key question is: After partition, many Muslims were supposed to leave but stayed in India. They thrived and are now after flauting all efforst at birth control by the Indian givernment, about 150 million. However, the millions of Muslims that originallt remained in Pakuistan, East and West, East not now being Bangladesh…Henry…WHERE ARE THEY????
Please try to find out, and when you do, you will see that this article by Dr. Chesler is right on the money, and what Mr. Gosh states, very true, and then some.
I’ve read the amended version of your reply and I _still_ don’t know what you’re trying to say. Seriously! Are you saying that some large number of Muslims are “missing” from India? Or some large number of Hindus are “missing” from Pakistan and Bangladesh? And what do you mean by “missing”? It seems as if you are implying some sort of genocide by Hindus against Muslims or Muslims against Hindus but I truly can’t figure out which.
I hope you’re not trying to tell me that tens of millions of Hindus or Muslims were killed but nobody noticed (or cared). I’d really like to see some proof of that!!
India is not North Korea. I just can’t see a mass genocide taking place on the Indian subcontinent and nobody acting.
Yes, Henry, I am sorry for messing up the post.
Indeed, millions of Hindus missing from both Pakistan and Bangladesh…and add some from Afghanistan…WHERE ARE THEY?
No, millions were not killed, you are correct, but hundreds of thousands were, other were displaced by terror, the same tactics used in Kashmir/Jammu that caused displacement of 150,000 Hindu pundits that are now refugees in camps around Delhi, in their own country.
[India is not North Korea. I just can’t see a mass genocide taking place on the Indian subcontinent and nobody acting.}
Unfortunately, it does.
Correction:
The millions of Hindus (not Muslims) that remained in Pakistan and Bangladesh…
Phyllis,
Thanks for writing this. The place where the recentmost attack took place was a Hindu majority town once, a slow influx of Bangladesi migration turned it to Muslim majority. Now it appears that population may have to migrate out of that area because their commie government and liberal media do not care. Bengal is one of the areas in the world with highest population density. If they are to leave this place, where would they go? Jump to Indian Ocean?
I saw a reference to Cordoba House in the comments. Only people who has no sense of world history can say that they are not threatened. Do you know what Cordoba is? It is the first significant European town that fell to Islamic savages. Do you know what date 9/11 signify? It is that date in seventeenth century when a confederacy of German-Austrian-Polish soldiers permanently stopped Turkish (Ottoman) aggression on Western civilization. 9/11 was the the restart-point of this aggression and Cordoba is the victory monument. Sooner or later more and more of their clan would enter this great country in the name of making a living and then to know what may happen, read below excerpt:
When politically correct, tolerant, and culturally diverse societies agree to Muslim demands for their religious privileges, some of the other components tend to creep in as well. Here’s how it works.
As long as the Muslim population remains around or under 2% in any given country, they will be for the most part be regarded as a peace-loving minority, and not as a threat to other citizens. This is the case in:
United States — Muslim 0.6%
Australia — Muslim 1.5%
Canada — Muslim 1.9%
China — Muslim 1.8%
Italy — Muslim 1.5%
Norway — Muslim 1.8%
At 2% to 5%, they begin to proselytize from other ethnic minorities and disaffected groups, often with major recruiting from the jails and among street gangs. This is happening in:
Denmark — Muslim 2%
Germany — Muslim 3.7%
United Kingdom — Muslim 2.7%
Spain — Muslim 4%
Thailand — Muslim 4.6%
From 5% on, they exercise an inordinate influence in proportion to their percentage of the population. For example, they will push for the introduction of halal (clean by Islamic standards) food, thereby securing food preparation jobs for Muslims. They will increase pressure on supermarket chains to feature halal on their shelves — along with threats for failure to comply. This is occurring in:
France — Muslim 8%
Philippines — Muslim 5%
Sweden — Muslim 5%
Switzerland — Muslim 4.3%
The Netherlands — Muslim 5.5%
Trinidad & Tobago — Muslim 5.8%
At this point, they will work to get the ruling government to allow them to rule themselves (within their ghettos) under Sharia, the Islamic Law. The ultimate goal of Islamists is to establish Sharia law over the entire world.
When Muslims approach 10% of the population, they tend to increase lawlessness as a means of complaint about their conditions. In Paris , we are already seeing car-burnings. Any non-Muslim action offends Islam, and results in uprisings and threats, such as in Amsterdam , with opposition to Mohammed cartoons and films about Islam. Such tensions are seen daily, particularly in Muslim sections, in:
Guyana — Muslim 10%
India — Muslim 13.4%
Israel — Muslim 16%
Kenya — Muslim 10%
Russia — Muslim 15%
After reaching 20%, nations can expect hair-trigger rioting, jihad militia formations, sporadic killings, and the burnings of Christian churches and Jewish synagogues, such as in:
Ethiopia — Muslim 32.8%
At 40%, nations experience widespread massacres, chronic terror attacks, and ongoing militia warfare, such as in:
Bosnia — Muslim 40%
Chad — Muslim 53.1%
Lebanon — Muslim 59.7%
From 60%, nations experience unfettered persecution of non-believers of all other religions (including non-conforming Muslims), sporadic ethnic cleansing (genocide), use of Sharia Law as a weapon, and Jizya, the tax placed on infidels, such as in:
Albania — Muslim 70%
Malaysia — Muslim 60.4%
Qatar — Muslim 77.5%
Sudan — Muslim 70%
After 80%, expect daily intimidation and violent jihad, some State-run ethnic cleansing, and even some genocide, as these nations drive out the infidels, and move toward 100% Muslim, such as has been experienced and in some ways is on-going in:
Bangladesh — Muslim 83%
Egypt — Muslim 90%
Gaza — Muslim 98.7%
Indonesia — Muslim 86.1%
Iran — Muslim 98%
Iraq — Muslim 97%
Jordan — Muslim 92%
Morocco — Muslim 98.7%
Pakistan — Muslim 97%
Palestine — Muslim 99%
Syria — Muslim 90%
Tajikistan — Muslim 90%
Turkey — Muslim 99.8%
United Arab Emirates — Muslim 96%
100% will usher in the peace of ‘Dar-es-Salaam’ — the Islamic House of Peace. Here there’s supposed to be peace, because everybody is a Muslim, the Madrasses are the only schools, and the Koran is the only word, such as in:
Afghanistan — Muslim 100%
Saudi Arabia — Muslim 100%
Somalia — Muslim 100%
Yemen — Muslim 100%
Unfortunately, peace is never achieved, as in these 100% states the most radical Muslims intimidate and spew hatred, and satisfy their blood lust by killing less radical Muslims, for a variety of reasons.
@hellmonitor,
If Bengali Hindus were so effette, then Ghosh would not be able to reach Phyllis, right? Bengali Hindus are locked in an extreme battle with a Saudi sponsored Islamic extremism and a British-instituted liberalism that is simply not suitable for their history and social condition.
Very interesting post! Thank you!
This is one of the most informative comments I have ever read. Shocking. From the population percentages one can see how Islam slowly creeps into a society and demands sharia law etc. Thank you for taking the time to document and post this. I will be sending this information on to many of my friends.
Very detailed analysis and true word-to-word. This is known to everyone who lives in a country with more than 5% Muslims but they have no courage to state this openly for the fear of being branded as fundamentalist. Secularism means treating everyone equally and not keeping mum when minorities harm the peace. Appreciate your courage to speak out.
Thanks for the informative and deeply disturbing report.
Ultimately, it just gives more information about an obvious yet ugly truth that Europe and much of the world -including, unfortunately, much of America- is denying: that Islam, the “religion of peace” is nothing less than the greatest threat to human civilization, can not be tolerated, and must be stopped before it destroys us.
Turning a blind eye to the atrocities and genocide that characterize this political movement masquerading as a religion has achieved nothing other than condoning and permitting the insanity and genocide, and the spread of those who perpetuate it.
Fortunately, I think Americans are finally waking up. It’s probably too late for Europe.
Thanks again for the article.
Test -will my post be deleted again?
To #26, Henry Reardon – You state this article could have come from the MSM? What???
There are many no-go Muslim areas in India, Israel, UK, Europe, where it is too dangerous for non-Muslims to enter. The violent, religious hate for non-Muslims is intense. In some areas of Europe, ambulances and fire engines require a police escort to enter Muslim areas.
Islamic terrorists have carried out more than 16,046 deadly terror attacks since 9/11.
Ramadan 2010 Scorecard: Day 30
Terror attacks: 226
Dead bodies: 1,028
“Allah said, ‘A prophet must slaughter before collecting captives. A slaughtered enemy is driven from the land. Muhammad, you craved the desires of this world, its goods and the ransom captives would bring. But Allah desires killing them to manifest the religion.’” – Ibn Ishaq: 327
Our Indian Hindu and Sikh brothers and sisters have been suffering Muhammed’s Islamic Jihad for centuries, and enduring unspeakable horrors. As Hindus and Sikhs are not considered “people of the book”, they are savaged even worse than the Christians and Jews.
We must understand that Islam’s prime directive is the militant conquest of the entire world, mandated by Allah & Muhammed in the Koran & this hadith: Bukhari (8:387) – Allah’s Apostle Muhammed said, “I have been ordered to fight the people till they say: ‘None has the right to be worshipped but Allah’”
Could it be ANY MORE CRYSTAL CLEAR??
Islamists have been dutifully following this mandate for 1,400 years, since the time Muhammed left Mecca for Medina. What we are facing is nothing less than an ISLAMIC WORLD WAR that rages on every continent except Antarctica, against everyone and everything “non-Islamic”.
ISLAMIC WORLD WAR? Let’s look at the FACTS.
Islam against:
- the Catholics in the Philippines (routine slaughter & beheadings)
- the Christians in Indonesia (routine slaughter & beheadings)
- Australian tourists in Bali (blown up…twice)
- the Buddhists in Thailand (routine slaughter & beheadings)
- the Hindus & Sikhs in India (centuries battling the Islamic Jihad)
- the Jews in Mumbai (slaughtered)
- the Zoroastrians & Baha’i in Iran (virtually exterminated)
- Islamic converts to Christianity in Afghanistan (death fatwa)
- ancient Buddhist statues in Bamiyan, Afghanistan (blown up)
- the Chaldean Christians in Iraq (routine persecution, slaughter & church burnings)
- the Jews in Israel (routine attacks against civilians, threat of 2nd genocide)
- the Jews in Yemen (nearly exterminated)
- S. Korean & German tourists in Yemen (blown up)
- the Coptic Christians in Egypt (routine persecution, slaughter & church attacks)
- the Christians & animists in Sudan (genocide)
- the Christians in Kenya (constant Jihadist threat from Obama’s homies)
- the Christians in Nigeria (routine Jihadist attacks)
- U.S. embassies in Tanzania & Kenya (blown up)
- the athiests in Europe (the prime target)
- the native French in Paris (torched car terrorism)
- Jews in Paris (read the grisly story of Ilan Halimi, a Jewish shop clerk who was kidnapped, tortured and killed in 2006)
- the native Swedes in Malmo (Islamic rape brigades)
- the native Dutch in Amsterdam (routinely terrorized)
- Dutch politicians (Geert Wilders & Ayyan Hirsi Ali – Islamic death fatwa)
- Dutch cinematographers (Theo vanGogh savagely murdered by an Islamist in broad daylight)
- Dutch cartoonists (Kurt Westergaard – Islamic death fatwa)
- Dutch newspaper editors (Flemming Rose, Jyllands-Posten’s culture editor – Islamic death fatwa)
- Train commuters in Spain (blown up)
- Tube commuters in London (blown up)
- Airports in Scotland (blown up)
- Jews in Argentina (blown up)
- Jews in Caracas (blown up)
- Twin Tower office workers in N.Y. (blown up – twice)
- Defense workers in the Pentagon (blown up – airliner jihad)
- Army/Navy military recruiters in Little Rock (gunned down by an Islamist)
- Soldiers in Ft. Hood Texas (gunned down by an Islamist)
- Pedestrians at the U. of N. Carolina (run down with an SUV by Islamist)
- Journalists like Daniel Pearl (savagely decapitated by Islamists)
- Nick Berg, Kim Sung-il, Piotr Stanczyk, Jack Hensley, Eugene Armstrong, Paul Johnson (savagely decapitated by Islamists)
- Jewish centers in Seattle (slaughtered by Islamic Jihadist)
- Jewish centers in Toronto (slaughtered by Islamic Jihadist)
- Infidel Delta Airlines passengers (underwear bomber)
- Times Square pedestrians (SUV bomber)
- Soccer fans in Uganda (Blown up while watching the world cup)
- Christian doctors in Afghanistan (savagely slaughtered by the Taliban)
And on, and on, and on……….
It is Islam against everyone, everything, everywhere that is not Islamic.
It is Dar al-Islam against Dar al-Harb. Islam against us, not us against them.
Let’s face the facts and call it what it is. It is not a ‘War on Terror’ against a few ragtag misunderstanders of Islam. It is a war against all of us.
THE ISLAMIC WORLD WAR – Muhammed’s legacy – it’s real.
~ The Infidel Alliance
I don’t see a fatwa against Obama. According to him he is a Muslim convert to Christianity ( if you consider that idiot Rev. Wright anymore a Christian than that Idiot in Florida with 30 followers).
He’s never admitted to being Muslim, just studying Islam and admiring many things about it.
What does Mr. Ghosh and his organization have to say about the violent persecution of Indian Christians by Hindu militants? Hundreds of churches have been burned and tens of thousands of Christians driven from their homes just in Orissa.
Mr. Ghosh describes the violence against Hindus during partition, but seems to have forgotten there was any violence against Moslems at the time; yet millions of Moslems were displaced at the time.
During the 1970 war of Bangladeshi independence, it was noted that the Pakistani government relied for its control of east Pakistan on Bihari Moslem refugees from India. They unlike the Bengali Moslems identified with Pakistan (and had become hated by the Bengalis). The Biharis were in East Pakistan because they had been driven from Bihar by Hindus in 1948.
The Indian government should crack down on all rioting and mob violence. It is very difficult to believe that in the country of Shiv Sena and RSS that the government favors Moslems.
Nothing Rich. His hands are full with a problem much, much bigger than the one you describe.
But now that you mention it…and not to justify it though but…would you like to have people from another faith come in your neighborhood and try to convert you to theirs with trick, deceit, rewards, especially targeting the poor and the ignorant, like in the tribal areas of India in Orissa, creating anthropological and psychological turmoil…would you? I hope not. Enough of colonialism.
Typical tricks used by Christians in tribal areas in India: miracles in the form of petitions for a bicycle, or a little boat, or even a little house, that then “materialize”, what a miracle! But it now requires the winner and his whole family to convert to Christianity. L
200 million a year from the Vatican involved in this alone in India, not counting the protestants from America and England.
The Tsunami, yes, Christianity helped, leaving behind in the process a few hundred churches along the coast of the Tamil Nadu.
This should be a wake up call to the free world either turn to the Islamic religion or die. Muhammad was a crazy-man sleeping in graves, a pedophile having intercourse with a 8 or 9 year girl he says he married, taught his followers that GOD said it is okay to lie if it promotes Islam. Muhammad said Mose`s was a great prophet and the Torah was a holy book. So what did he not understand about not bearing false witness one of the TEN COMMANDMENTS?!
@Rich, the UPA Sonia govt does favor muslims first, christians second, Hindus last
The Orissa violence was an affirmative action reaction
Xtian Dalits claimed to be Hindus and got affirmative action jobs and were doing low level attacks on Hindus for 20 years, this was a long pent up reaction. Every christian in the refugee camp was having false documents claiming to be a Hindu for affirmative action benefits
The RSS and Shiv Sena are weak in Bengal
Bengali Hindus dont vote for them, they vote commie and congress and now they realise, that for commies and congress, muslim votes are all important
In Gujurat, Hindus vote BJP, and Narendra Modi has put the fear of God into the local muslims
Time has come for all the hindus in India specially from Bengal and Kerela to join hands and retaliate. Hindu unity is required at this moment and this is possible if we forget caste, creed and stop fighting on the basis of caste and regions. There should be one identity for the hindus and that should be hinduism and india.
It is true that Muslims are an aggressive minority in India and they exist and thrive because of that. But bulk of the Muslims in India are also poor and uneducated. Their religious fervour does not help their progress. And where they are economically developed Muslims tend to be more moderate and liberal. So economic development along with strict lawful action against any aggressive and vandalizing actions may help the country and Muslims themselves. The tragedy is there is no strong and good government worth the name in India. One wonders why at least cross border infiltration cannot be curbed and illegal migrants cannot be sent back or at least disenfranchised and curbed.
Sharma,
Really!!! Those violence are done by poor and uneducated muslim without any leader !!! The educated and well-to-do muslim men provide the leadership, money and political protection. Otherwise how long a group of uneducated and poor people can stay violent? The ability of liberals like you to look other way when your own fellow Hindu gets attacked is the reason Hindus landed themselves in the sticky mud.
We, the Americans actually need to learn from from the situation and think about our protection and do our best to prevent the growth of Muslim percentage in our land of freedom.
This website is a perfect example of how people who accuse others of bad intentions and acts are themselves indulging in the same act. Please analyse your words in a serene, sane and objective way. You will be horrified by seeing your own faces. The language used to vilify a religion and its followers is devoid of any sign of serenity and wisdom. Please do not unite to annihilate a group of people numbering more than a billion. It is paranoid at the least.
Off Topic but I did not know where to post it, having to do with (North-Eastern) India:
Women’s Rights’ Activist(s), Sampat Pal Devi and the Gulabi Gang
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sampat_Pal_Devi and http://www.gulabigang.org/
[Brave Women kindly - and not so kindly - asking for the Respect of their Human Rights and Dignity]
Have a joyful Day.
The fact that the Indian media refuses to report such atrocities is because they are the ideological heir to Mohandas Gandhi, who believed that a woman being *raped* should NOT be defended with violent force. Gandhi also repeatedly urged the Hindus at Partition to let Muslims slaughter them. Little wonder that the Indian media is burying their heads in the sand. For more on Gandhi, click the link.
http://www.scribd.com/doc/30729870/Gandhi-A-True-Mahatma-Complete
Thank’s for this information.