The London School of Economics has just banned the young and distinguished Douglas Murray, the author and Director of the Centre for Social Cohesion, from their campus. Murray was to have chaired a debate about Islam titled “Islam or Liberalism. Which is the Way Forward?” The reason given was “security concerns.”
According to Damian Thompson, of the London Telegraph, the School had no such fears when known “members of Al-Mujaharoun, a pro-terror Islamist organisation,” spoke there. Thompson was in attendance. “The presence of the group was announced in advance, but that was OK with the School. Presumably that was because it was also OK with the Islamic campus ideologues in front of whom it cowers.’ ”
This is maddening and tragic. According to Peter Whittle, Director of the New Culture Forum (who, to his credit, has just invited Murray to chair their first program of 2009):
“The ban on Mr Murray is outrageous. Even more worrying however is the total silence on such occasions from our elected ‘representatives’ in public life. Are they cowards? Are they in denial? Certainly, Douglas Murray is neither. ”
One needn’t worry about security in the case of al-Majaharoun since jihadists won’t try to kill them. The people they want to kill are those who speak against honor murders.
Why is the London School of Economics banning Murray but allowing jihadic terrorists to speak at will?
The London School of Economics has been a well-known terrorist training area for almost a decade. Several Guantanamo detainees had degrees from the school. The Asia Times ran several articles connecting the school to the education of future money-laundering experts for worldwide terrorism.
I found out about it when I was having an online discussion with an Islamist/leftist Iranian student, who was fairly extreme. He went to the school, and he thought the guys there were stone cold jihadis. They scared him.
Ahmed Omar Saeed Sheikh, who was involved in the kidnapping of Daniel Pearl and other westerners, attended the school. Sponsoring terrorists isn’t appeasement for this college, it’s their business.
The answer is simple: Dhimnitude. England and europe are finished,choked to death on the fat of their suicidal multiculturalism.
In reading many posts like this I have come to conclude that beyond the usual political biases, there is a simple 1 word answer:
FEAR
Muslim nutjobs inspire fear – whether it is libel tourism (economic fear), angry protestors and rioters (bad publicity fear), or actual violence (primal fear). Conservatives, Jews and other members of mainstream civil society do not raise such fears and are more easily dismissed. Even if we wanted to sink to those levels, most of us are too busy working and carrying on with our own productive lives…
#4 TMK75 – Yeah… what he said!
I hope that Canada, Australia and the USA can accomodate 300,000 Jews in the UK.
I also hope that Mick Jagger was not infected by this Jew-hatred when he attended the school.
Let’s think for a moment people. Fundamentalist Islam is making it’s inroads in a lot of places, not the least in Western Europe. The second Moorish invasion for lack of a better term.
Should they be able to speak their minds, yes, and should those of other view points be able to speaks their minds also, yes.
Any religious fundamentalist movement is in my opinion, inherently bad. All, whether they be Christian, Moslem, or whatever have no tolerance for the beliefs of others, and when allowed into power always evolve into despotic regimes. Are any of you familiar with the Spanish Inquisition?
While in St. Petersburg, Russia, a few years ago, my Russian friends said the greatest problem in Russia was the rise of Islamic Fundamentalism. When looking at Western Europe, I have to feel the same way.
Keep your powder dry and the lines of dialogue open. We’ll all be better off in the long run. Cheers
Britain deserves its impending brain drain.
Islam has taken over England and Europe. With this liberal agenda in the U.S. time will only tell when it takes over here.
Reinforcing what TMK75 said about fear:
England in particular has managed to outlaw self-defense. This goes way beyond “gun control” arguments and the like.
If a person is attacked and cannot flee, he or she must submit or the court will deprive them of their liberty.
This means of course that intimidators cannot be countered without risking bringing in the authorities on their side.
Until England and others correct that, I see nothing but trouble for them.
Describing the behavior of the London School of Economics in this matter comes as no surprise to me. It is now the norm that university campuses are completely controlled by the Jihadists. When they snap their fingers, the cowardly and sympathetic faculty, deans, provosts and presidents simply will not stand up to the violent intimidation. Here in Los Angeles (UCLA) I’ve witnessed violent harassment of speakers such as Daniel Pipes and others. These are surely perilous times, and Mr. Murray can count himself a brave soldier in a world struggle against evil. If we give up we die.
Ah, Britain and Continental Europe. I’ve said it before on this forum and I’ll say it again (because it’s the truth). Western Europe has given all it can to mankind. It gave us the idea of rational thought and self-government. But alas, it’s run out of ideas and seems to be on the path of forgetting it’s own discoveries. In fact, it’s been going on for a while now. I will now say something that’s brought me some heat, but is true all the same: WE AMERICANS HAVE TWICE IN THE LAST 100 YEARS SAVED THE EUROPEANS FROM KILLING THEMSELVES. The fact is that the Eurpoean nations are bent on self-destruction. Britain wishes to let into their midsts thousands of fanatics who are bent on destroying that once great nation? Britain shuts down the words and thoughts of free thinkers hoping to appease Islam’s soldiers? They’ve quit. They fear to live. Let them commit suicide.
How ironic, if they would’ve let this chap Douglas Murray, whom of which I’ve never heard of (call me out of the loop), lecture, no one would’ve probably payed attention.
i am an african and will like to say i was horrified the first time i went to europe(paris) on training,to see the population of muslims there.truth is that europe will be lost to jihadists in less than 100yrs from now either by immigration or birth,i know a guy in my country who has 50 children and one that just got married to about 80 wives in niger state,nigeria(the islamic sharia just took him to court).pls the native euoropeans shuold rise up now!(i dont mean violence pls,organise your own peace rallies and mass mobilisations,and stop electing liberals and the leftists!!!!!!!)or forever keep silent!!!.in africa we know that saudi arabia has an agenda to islamise europe,the question is,are the europeans just plain dumb not to realise it or just cowards?!!!be rest assured that islam is a restless and violent spirit of world domination.
Look how well appeasement has worked for Israel: Despite the fact that Israel wants to live in peace with it’s neighbors and has twice given up land in mass (Sinai Peninsula and Gaza), they are still threaten. 7500 rockets in the last 6 years tell the story.
Eurabia, Land of the Dhimmis. Big Ben will be turned into a minaret, there will be a Mufti of Canterbury, & the Queen will be wearing a burka. Europe is committing suicide – a voluntary surrender to another facism. What a bunch of intellectually dishonest, politically correct, multi-culturalist, spineless buggers you have become.
“Are any of you familiar with the Spanish Inquisition?”
any intelligent person (except yourself obviously) knows the spanish inquisition was a local phenomenon, short in years and limited in area. Unlike jihad that has plague most of the world and for 1400 years.
People like yourself are part of the problem, not of the solution.
The LSE incident is more complex than it first appears to be, and the ‘banned’ person has actually spoken at LSE before and apparently will be invited to do so again. To describe the School as some kind of ‘terrorist training camp’ is ludicrous-LSE is a distinguished college which has produced many leading conservatives in both academia and politics. I do wish your correspondents would check some facts before pronouncing on institutions in this way- it takes only a moment to check LSE’s history via Google. I agree that we should have as much free speech as possible, and in universities in general freedom of expression is under threat but this case is not as simple and clear cut as it first seems, and a lot of what happened seems to have been the result of confusion and error rather than a deliberate attempt to muzzle someone. The LSE press officer has put its side of the case n various blogs and in response to reports and again I suggest that people Google for this.
The commenter is certainy not famliar with the Sanish Inquistion. Dates: 1478-1834. Total deaths: approximately 4-6,000 OVER A 350 YEAR PERIOD (Will Durant, The Reformation (1957)) Now, just to get perspective, the commenter conveniently fails to provide, atheist deaths (all 20h Century, not ancient history): Mao Zedong, 40 million; Josef Stalin, 20 million; Pol Pot, 2 million. For example. We’ll skip Lenin, Saddam, Castro/Che and North Korea. What a “maroon” you are. Cheers.
Surely infidels have NO right to deny the Muslims THEIR right to practice free religion by killing non muslims. (Sarcasm off)
I do wish your correspondents would check some facts before pronouncing on institutions in this way- it takes only a moment to check LSE’s history via Google.
From a short check via Google -
Via the Asia Times:
Not surprisingly then, terrorists recruited in England – including Britons, French and Spaniards – were to be found in Afghanistan, Kashmir, Chechnya, Bosnia, Macedonia and Kosovo. Even French anti-terrorist experts talk about “Londonistan” and there is a connection between one of the worst Islamic terrorists from Britain with the London School of Economics, a center of anti-capitalist, anti-Western miseducation for almost a century.
..Funding and logistics
A January 27, 2002, London Telegraph headline says it all: “British cash and fighters still flow to bin Laden.” Political correctness in Europe, far more advanced and pervasive than in the United States, prevents police from even checking on, let alone acting upon, Islamic preachers, fundraisers, and terrorist recruiters – all in the name of freedom of speech, religion and expression. Muslim charities, mostly of Saudi origin, are out of bounds in the name of freedom of religion. Because these provide the main instrument for funding al-Qaeda-type cells, there is no legal way to control the flow of funds from European Muslims to terrorist groups and causes in the Islamic world.
This development recalls the case of Daniel Pearl, the American Wall Street Journal reporter who was kidnapped and then killed by members of the HUM and the Harkat-ul-Jihad-al-Islami (HUJI) in January-February, 2002.
Pearl’s murder was orchestrated by Omar Sheikh, a British citizen of Pakistani origin who had studied at the London School of Economics before joining the HUA to go to Bosnia.
Omar then infiltrated into India and participated in some acts of terrorism, for which he was arrested and jailed by Indian authorities. In December 1999 he was released in a deal following the hijacking of an Indian Airlines plane to Afghainstan by the HUM. From Kandahar, Omar crossed to Pakistan, joined al-Qaeda and opened its office in Lahore.
From an article titled “Muslim Terrorists Swimming in Saudi Money” written by Lt. Col. Gordon Cucullu, Army Green Beret
…the modern Islamofascist terrorist movement swims in the rich waters of international finance. Far from being poor, ignorant peasants as many in the West fancifully envision the terrorists, these men and their organizations are highly sophisticated, technologically aware, and extraordinarily adept at moving money within the intricate web of international financial institutions. Perhaps one of the most misunderstood aspects of these terrorists is that many of the most virulently anti-Western have matriculated in British and American institutions of higher learning. More than one detainee in Guantanamo has an advanced degree in international finance from schools such as the London School of Economics. Admission standards may have changed, but one does not reasonably expect to find a simple Afghani opium farmer conscripted by the Taliban to be on the roster of distinguished graduates.
…more
More on the business relationship between the London School of economics and terrorism, from an article titled (appropriately) “Radical Islam & British universities”
In 1994, the Indian High Commissioner, L. M. Singhvi, claimed that Muslim students at British colleges and universities were being recruited by Islamist terror groups in India. The London School of Economics and the University of London’s School of Oriental and African Studies were claimed to be places where students were particularly susceptible to such recruitment. ..
..The London School of Economics, according to a 2002 report, was certainly a locus for Islamist terror recruitment. In a report by UK intelligence, it was claimed that Ahmed Omar Saeed Sheikh, who had became a student at the LSE in 1992, went to Bosnia in 1993 and the following year became involved in Kashmiri terrorist groups, including Jaish-e-Mohammed. He was arrested in 1994 after a police shoot-out following the kidnapping of three British backpackers. He escaped from jail in 1999, and was captured by Pakistani police on February 12, 2002. Omar Sheikh was captured for his involvement in the kidnapping and beheading of US journalist Daniel Pearl, and given a death sentence on July 15, 2002…
Bizarrely, President Pervez Musharraf of Pakistan states in his recent book “In The Line Of Fire” that Omar Sheikh had been originally recruited by Britain’s international intelligence agency, MI6. Omar Sheikh admits to meeting Osama bin Laden twice, but claims his allegiance is more to Mullah Omar of the Taliban. Omar Sheikh is said to have financed the 9/11 terrorist, Mohammed Atta.
…The 2002 intelligence report claims that another student from the LSE recruited for Jaish-e-Mohammed, and a third man who was arrested for involvement in the 2001 attack upon the Indian parliament (killing seven) actually lectured to Muslim students at the LSE in 1999.
An official at the LSE claimed: “There was some activity in the mid-1990s. Together with the students’ union we checked that only bona fide students were actually linked to the Islamic society.” In 2000, members of Al-Muhajiroun were physically expelled from a freshers’ fair at the LSE after trying to recruit students.
Al-Muhajiroun declared that there was a “covenant of security” between British Muslims and the UK, which meant that while Muslims were allowed to operate there would be no terrorist attacks on British soil. In 2005, the Sunday Times stated that more than a dozen Al-Muhajiroun members had gone on to become suicide bombers abroad. These included Asif Hanif, who had been one of two Britains involved in the April 2003 attack upon Mike’s Bar on the Tel Aviv sea front, which killed three and wounded sixty.
In October 2004, Omar Bakri Mohammed announced that Al-Muhajiroun would be disbanding. In February 2005, he declared that the “covenant of security” had ended. Four months later, 52 people died when four Muslims, two of whom had been university-educated, decided to enact “jihad” in London.
Oh, ES, here’s some more info. I forget where I got it, there’s so much out there…
The presence of Al-Muhajiroun on campuses in various universities led MI5 to set up a unit to monitor student Islamism at the dawn of the millennium. In early 2001, Russian authorities urged Britain to ban Al-Muhajiroun, as their intelligence showed that students from the London School of Economics had been recruited by the group to become terrorists in Chechnya.
#12, James: You are right, and I agree with you 100% Europe trashes the hell out of America and Bush, yet say not a word while it appeases bin Laden wannabees and the Stealth Jihad they let happen undetr their noses. (Not even stealth, really, but right in their faces!) Pansy-asses all the way. While they will be living in dhimmitude (because we won´t be saving them this time), we, Australia, China (who knows how to deal with terrorists in their midst) will keep our cultures – and of course the Euro-dhimmis will be cowaring in their corners trashing America still…this time for not saving them. Good riddence, wimps.
I have met with Douglas Murray as well and he is a good clever bloke. LSE’s banning him is no surprise whatever…it has been a haven for leftists and Islamists for many years now.
What is this pseudo madrassa doing operating in a Western country? It should be condemned and bulldozed and an anti terrorist training center built in it’s place.
“England in particular has managed to outlaw self-defense. This goes way beyond “gun control” arguments and the like.
If a person is attacked and cannot flee, he or she must submit or the court will deprive them of their liberty. ”
That’s not actually true.
Anybody else see the glaring contradiction?
“Political correctness in Europe, far more advanced and pervasive than in the United States, prevents police from even checking on, let alone acting upon, Islamic preachers, fundraisers, and terrorist recruiters”
“The presence of Al-Muhajiroun on campuses in various universities led MI5 to set up a unit to monitor student Islamism at the dawn of the millennium.”
The idea that the police are not monitoring Islamists is frankly laughable.
One author in the UK Times a few weeks ago suggested taking all of Guantanamo’s victims and incorperating them into British society. I am amazed when I read the Times or almost any other UK newspaper for that matter. The twisted and self destructive thinking is mind boggling and maddening. The Times has banned me from commenting with there newspaper.
Mary Madigan, your ‘evidence’ is laughable, and mostly based on unsupported repetition of the same allegations in various conspiracy websites; and yes the guy involved in the killing of Daniel Pearl went to LSE, so that makes LSE a terrorist training camp? Currently the presidents of Kenya and Ghana, plus the prime ministers of Bulgaria and Japan, and the Queen of Denmark all went to LSE. So they are terrorists too, along with the other 35 or so LSE alumni who were presidents or prime ministers? Half of Obama’s economics team went to LSE, are they terrorists? JOhan Goldberg is coming to LSE tomorrow (Tues Jan 27) to talk against ‘Liberal Fascism’, the title of his new book, is he a terrorist too? Ben Bernanke (have you heard of him?) gave a major speech at LSE a few weeks ago, and often visits LSE, is he a terrorist, along with Paul Krugman and Laryy Summers (who have also lectured/taught at LSE?
Some advice for you: start doing real research, do not rely on tabloid newspaper stereotypes, and stay away from conspiracy theoiry websites
To add more info, here is a post which originally appeared on the Spectator blog, written by someone called ‘Patrick’
‘Hi, I am an Israeli student at LSE, and was very worried when I heard about this story yesterday afternoon so I went to the debate last night which I think most of those who are commenting on this blog did not. Having attended what was a fairly interesting debate its clear to me the LSE was right to think that Mr Murray would not have been a suitable chairperson. The issue being debated was whether Islam or Liberalism was best placed to solve societies problems, which in itself is a sensitive topic. I think we all know where Mr Murray would stand on this question, so for me while I would find myself agreeing with much of what Mr Murray says I think LSE were right to have concerns about him chairing the event. Most sensible people I think would agree that its best to have someone in the chair who is viewed as an honest broker especially for sensitive or controversial topics. Douglas Murray would have been a great speaker on the topic, but a totally unsuitable chair, it would have been like asking the Pope to chair a debate on the issue of homosexuality. I think people who come to such quick conclusions on this matter need to give some consideration for the unfortunate atmosphere on the LSE campus between certains groups of students after the recent activity in the middle east and the occupation of campus. I believe the School has a responsibility to consider these things for the good of campus relations.For those criticising LSE there needs to be an acknowledgement that the debate went ahead, with the proposed speakers. This included Alan Sked who put forward views which were very similar to those which Mr Murray would put forward, so the allegation there was some threat to free speech is totally false. Its also worth noting that Mr Murray has spoken at LSE twice in the past 6 months, including at an event hosted by the Israeli Society that I attended where I very much agreed with much of what he said.I also spoke to people after the event and heard that as far the School authories were aware Mr Murray had offered to stand down as chair of the event. When they became aware yesterday morning via the papers that he was not happy with standing down the organiser tried to contact Mr Murray in the afternoon and make it clear he could chair the event. I understand that Murray appeared to make himself unavailable all afternoon to approaches from LSE till shortly before the event when he said he did not have time.The whole affair seems to have been a bit messy, but from what I was told and have seen it seems LSE was acting with the best of intentions, rather than trying to crack down to free speech or cave into pressure from Islamic fanatics. A lot of the speakers who come to LSE are left wing, and pro palestinian, but there have been a good number in recent months who take a very pro Israeli stance and who may described as neo cons such as Rick Santorum, US Attorney General Michael Mukasey, Homeland Secretary Chertoff and John Bolton to name a handful. I think this clearly demonstrates the claims made on this blog that in some way LSE does not try to uphold the principle of free speech are clearly false.’
The idea that the police are not monitoring Islamists is frankly laughable.
British police and intelligence agencies have been monitoring Islamists. But they’ve been working with them, not against them, which has helped terrorist organizations to grow.
David T. at Harry’s Place reports on why the British policy of allying with the terrorists who were “friends” in an effort to get them to fight the terrorists who were the “enemy” is currently destroying Britain.
Abu Hamza and Omar Bakri Mohammed reported having received frequent visits from the police. They’d remind the jihadist clerics that as long as they did nothing illegal, they’d be left alone to indoctrinate and recruit. And every so often, no doubt, they’d flash a picture of a particularly nasty terrorist in front of them and ask whether they’d seen any strange men hanging around the neighbourhood.
But that strategy didn’t work brilliantly did it? I suppose we’ll never know whether Abu Hamza and OBM actually helped the security services in a significant and important way. We do know what we got in return however: a generation of radicalised jihadists, some of whom went on to commit terrorist attacks. More worryingly, when Abu Hamza’s case came to trial, he was able to play the ingenue, tricked by the cunning police into believing that they had no problem with him soliciting murder, because they’d let him get away with it for so long.
We probably shouldn’t criticize Britain for using this failed tactic, since we’re using it ourselves (using our al Qaeda-supporting Saudi allies to fight Iran and Russia, for example). The Mexican government is currently allying with some drug dealers to fight other drug dealers – as a result, drug dealers are taking over the country. This policy is causing disasters worldwide. That doesn’t stop us from using it.
Chairing a debate, as ES points out, is not the same thing as speaking at a debate. The chair should be neutral. But is there any evidence that Douglas Murray would not be neutral?
None of the Americans has said – yet – that Churchill would be turning in his grave at the loss of the once great British Bulldog spirit.. Usually this comment is made shortly after a comment about the US having saved our sorry appeasing Limey asses, with no awareness of the contradiction between the once great British Bulldog bit and the sorry appeasing Limeys bit. Still, no doubt that will come.
Mary Madigan, your ‘evidence’ is laughable, and mostly based on unsupported repetition of the same allegations in various conspiracy websites..
According to a 2002 report by UK intelligence, the London School of Economics was a locus for Islamist terror recruitment. Also, according to the report, another student from LSE was recruited for Jaish-e-Mohammed. A third man who was arrested for involvement in the 2001 attack upon the Indian parliament (killing seven) lectured to Muslim students at LSE in 1999.
As I noted, this has been going on for approximately a decade. Around 1995, Omar Bakri formed the British branch of the Muslim Brotherhood, Hizb-ut-Tahrir. He also established Al-Muhajiroun in Britain. Groups like Hizb-ut-Tahrir and Al-Muhajiroun recruited students on campuses like LSE. Soon afterwards, the increasing number of jihadis coming from LSE was noticed by people like Vladmir Putin and President Pervez Musharraf.
Are you claiming that British intelligence, Putin and Musharraf are a bunch of conspiracy theorists?
The BBC also noted the effects of this Islamist recruitment in 2007 when they reported that “Reporting restrictions covering the conviction of Kazi Nurur Rahman have been lifted”. In the BBC’s 2007 report, they noted that British student: “Kazi Nurur Rahman was arrested in 1995 and charged in connection with the death of Ayotunde Obanubi, a Nigerian student who was stabbed to death outside Newham College in east London.”
Obanubi was stabbed to death by followers of Omar Bakri, who objected to the leaflets Obanubi was distributing. So called “conspiracy theorists” had noted the connection between Bakri’s group and Obanubi for years.
According to a report in the Guardian, Britain’s Detective Inspector Bob Lambert, (who retired six weeks ago as head of the Metropolitan police special branch’s Muslim Contact Unit) the British government has been working for years with Islamists like Bakri. According to Lambert:
Islamists can be powerful allies in the fight against al-Qaida influence. Our experience shows they can be the levers that help get young people away from the most dangerous positions. Issues that are most troubling to people like the oppression of women and gays mustn’t be swept under the carpet, but they also shouldn’t be treated as a block on engagement.
Since the ‘legitimate’ press is supported by the government, it’s not surprising that the BBC has “Reporting restrictions” on the Islamist infiltration of British colleges/universities like LSE.
in all of the comment and articles delving into the strange, mysterious reasons why the uk would cower to islamics, give them highly regarded positions in english society, enabling and allowing sharia law, and seemingly to encourage anti-zionist hate fests while imprisoning those who stand up against this dark and deadly enemy, there is one sentance i have never read about the english overweening desire to replace the west with islam …
“because they like it”.
The Truth is : The Free World is allowing Moslem to Act ,Behavior like Young soiled Kids and Common Muderous Thugs trying to take over the World while the West looks the other way and says or does nothing about it .This is a recording .
Nothing more than the A. Hitler and Atilla Hun many years later ….. Been there .
Delude humans, since Britain and Europe has been taken over by terrorists, may be it is time to invade them then. The last time I checked Americans everywhere are the victims of bin laden more than any other country. How many countries can Americans really go and flout themselves. Very few, not even in south America, may be Colombia or Israel. Idiots.
Universities the world over are leftie havens. Why? Because it is full of intelligent people who know that conventional wisdom is rubbish. They know that you cannot generalize without reason and every theory stands hollow when tested in every case.
To quote B Russell
‘The trouble with the world is that the stupid are cocksure and the intelligent are full of doubt. ‘
George Bush and this forum surely proves that.
If to debate the holocaust is not allowed I cannot see what freedom-of-speech reason anyone can espouse here.
I than amaze at the number of Islamistphobic hate monger there are in the west. First the word Terrorist was invent in 18th century by England so they can avoid talking to French which overthrew they king and replace it with than republic. In fact there is more verse talking about killing unbeliever in the bibble compare to the Koran. I convert to Islam after 9-11 attack which Israel did in america.
There are a lot of schools where Mr Murray can deliver his hate speech. Why does it have to be the LSE? If the school does not tolerate xenophobia surely he is not welcome there. Mr Murray has a website where he is free to air his views. At least he can air those views. Just a few months ago Germany attempted to extradite Dr Gerald Fredrick Toben for publishing material on the internet “of an anti-Semitic and/or revisionist nature”. This offense was supposedly committed in Australia. Your double standards and double speak is beyond appalling.
Brian Hoff….
no, 19 Saudis executed 3,000 people. Congrats on your conversion, did they teach you that absurdity in Muslim 101?
’43. Lynn:
Brian Hoff….
no, 19 Saudis executed 3,000 people’
And George Bush invades Iraq who I cannot remember carrying out or having any links to an attack against Americans.
Mary, the US Attorney General and the US Chief of Home Security both recently spoke at LSE. If I apply the ‘reasoning’ which is demonstrated in your posts, then surely this means that that LSE has become a training camp for anti-Islamists.
The Chairman of LSE, Peter Sutherland, a Catholic, is financial advisor to the Vatican, and also Chairman of British Petroleum: surely this means that LSE is now a training camp for Jesuit secret agents who like to peddle their influence on behalf of oil companies.
Likewise the Queen of England recently opened a new building at LSE, and the leader of the UK Conservative Party has given two speeches there in the last year or so: they obviously want to be associated with a terrorist training camp, or maybe LSE is also a terrorist training camp for Royalists and Conservatives.
Oh and I forgot to mention that LSE has an active Israeli Society, and has housed many celebrated Jewish academics over the years- yes, all the ‘evidence’ is there, therefore, to suggest that LSE is also a training camp for Jewish terrorists.
To save people the effort of creating their own silly conspiracy theories, let me give you a formula:
1/find a well known and very busy institution (ie LSE) which in one way or another is connected with a vast range of different individuals and groups;
2/focus immediately on any link which that organisation has ever had with anyone who is even remotely connected with a group you despise, however untypical that link may be;
3/carefully ignore the myriad connections which the institution has that rebut the image that you are trying to propagate, however substantial, numerous and consistent those connections may be;
4/seize on some trivial incident, blow it out of proportion, misrepresent it by via drama queen phraseology (ie the ‘banning’ of the young and glamorous Mr Murray, that martyr for free speech ), link it somehow to elastic allegations of extremism and one or two highly selected cases(the older and broader the allegations the harder they are to rebut), keep repeating them, steadily ignore evidence to the contrary, stir repeatedly!!!!
Job done! Who after all cares about accuracy when simplistic smears are so much more fun? Who cares that such ludicrous techniques actually damage the very cause which you claim to represent (yes, there are genuine reasons to worry about Islamic extremism in the West)?
Brian C. Hoff is a strange name for someone who cannot write in the english language. you sand monkey.
mohammed is the correct name for someone who espouses all of the horsesht (camelsht) we have come to expect from such as those who go by that name. please go away, you stink up the place, and take your colleague es with you, by all means.
To get to the itty-gritty of things, Brits have become Cowards. Where are those Nelsons, Wellingtons and Churchills? Gone, gone, gone! Blame it on those Immigration Policies, blame it on anything… but the Englishman is no more ‘the Lord of his Manor’ because the Muslim is.
seize on some trivial incident, blow it out of proportion, misrepresent it by via drama queen phraseology …steadily ignore evidence to the contrary, stir repeatedly!!!!
The most accurate indicator drama queen behavior is the diva-esque use of exclamation points.
Mary, the US Attorney General and the US Chief of Home Security both recently spoke at LSE. If I apply the ‘reasoning’ which is demonstrated in your posts, then surely this means that that LSE has become a training camp for anti-Islamists.
Saudi Arabia financed the 9/11 attacks and the government there encouraged young Saudis to join al Qaeda and become suicide bombers. Yet our government officials treat the Saudis with respect, love and admiration. They’re not anti-Islamist, they’re pro-Islamist. Like the British, we’re working with Islamist terrorists to defeat Islamist terrorists.
Like the British, we’re ignoring the fact that this policy is creating more terrorists and legitimizing extremism worldwide.
As I said, UK intelligence, Vladmir Putin and Pervez Musharraf called the London School of Economics a locus for Islamist terror. If you have issues with their research, please discuss it with them. Or, discuss it with the politicians, intelligence agencies and other guardians of the public safety, like Detective Inspector Bob Lambert, who have been working with Muslim-Brotherhood and Hamas linked groups for almost a decade, and who have encouraged groups like Hizb-ut-tahrir to grow.
Phyillis you delete my answer to that racist Judy who said I than not america citizen who will be sue once I get than copy of my birth certure. It seem like you are than convert racist criminal who mock than person born with than speech problen. May-be you needed to be sue
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I believe that Brian C. Hoff is a native Westerner. Only the modern Western education system could delude him into thinking that he is literate. My project supervisor is from Pakistan, and she is horrified by the “standards” of Australian high school graduates. As a mature age age student I am flabbergasted that standards have slipped so low in such a short period of time. The complete substitution of rote learning and the ability to memorise facts have been replaced with a priority on satisfying the sentimental and ideological needs of teachers, camouflaged by vacuous buzzwords. No other school system in the world would ever be taken in by “whole language learning” and “outcomes based education.”
The politicized Western school presents a view of the world that is twisted to reflect leftist bugbears, including the theory of moral equivalence. Brian was not taught the skills to see Islam for what it is; a man-made political ideology crafted by a cynical, violent, power hungry opportunist who knew that invoking God is the quickest path to worldly power. The poor man probably didn’t realise that the early “happy” verses of the Koran (when Mohammad didn’t have the strength to make enemies out of Christians & Jews) were abrogated by the later verses (when he had the power to dispose of them)when he made his stand against Western oppression.
Craig I than 59 year old who have than damage speech center the only theory that explain my problin. The school system I went to refuse to believe than medical doctor who sent 30 years studying speech problen, they decide to believe than school nurse who believe I was frakeing it.
In theory than brain operation can fix this, no doctor would want to do this as the speech center is very small and there is no lines brawing on your brain showing where each area begin and end. It is surround by parted of your brain which keep your heart breating and your lungs working an many virtal operation which keep your body working.
Also the school thought I was retard so I sent 4 year in special class and then when given than new IQ test show I was than geniue with hight IQ they move me to 7th grade under state pressure. I donot believe in IQ test measure intelligence at all. I just refuse to learn grammer rules and I find speech training doesnot work with me.
Iran already have hundred of nuclear weapons they donot use U-235 but Pu-239 which than small fact breeder reactor can make from urainium metal that have 97% U-238 and 3% U-235.
Brian C. Hoof
People with a speech impediment don’t write with an impediment. The speech center is on the cortex of the brain. Your breathing and heart beat are regulated by your mid-brain as most involuntary functions are. The exact opposite is true. With modern probing methods the speech center can be mapped.
I think that you are a fraud.
Oscar the Grump you donot know what you are talking about. I have brain stugeon tell me differently.Some of then say it is effecting my abilities to write and there is than good change they say that my speech center might not be where it could be but elsewhere. There where case in the past where parts of brain where lococrate elsewhere in the brain. There was than man once who have his heart on the right side of his body.
The two women who was born shareing parts of same brain who want to be seperate from each other, look at unexpect problim they haveing
doing than operation which lead to the two women death. Also in the past they remove people fontal lode to cure some mental illness
because of some racist member of societry thought it was than good idear to do so. Try to that today the brain surgeon would be arrest for than crime as removeing frontal lode is consider than criminal act by sociely now.
Re Susan’s post above: The Spanish Inquisition was worldwide and lasted from 1492 until 1834. The Roman Inquisition lasted until 1860. I don’t think it improves one’s argument against jihad to claim that the Inquisition was localized and short-lived. Jihad is a threat regardless of how long the Inquisition lasted (indeed, how did this line of discourse get going?) Phyllis Chesler, with whom I don’t always agree, is right on with her comments on free speech and institutional fear of offending the Muslims. We Westerners had better stand up for our rights before they wither away. The Dutch have tempered free speech with a requirement that it be “responsible.” This proviso, of course, effectively guts it. The British have “incitement” laws, which, again, batter free speech. Are we all to follow?
Brian Hoof
I know people who can’t speak at all; but, write beautifully. There is no correlation between speech disability and writing disability. By the way, I was wrong about where the involuntary motor control of the brain is. It is located in the brain stem. That still makes you full of sh’t. Stop!
Oscar the Grump there are cases where the brain did transfer one part of the brain funtune from to than other part of the brain. Was brain is still growning untril you are 8 or 9 year old. So it possible that my brain make than new speech center but it make error in makeing it as I fell down stairway alots when I was young and did hit my head hard on wooden floor. Also my brain hear some sounds wrong, your brain analize
noise into sound. They did cat scan of my brain and it show the old speech center total destory with brain damage in fact I would have lost the ability to speech at all, and yet I speech so mostly like my brain make than new speech center alsowhere in my brain. We do only know what 10% of the brain does, the other 90% we donot know what they do.
Oscar the Grump has a point. Tell me Brian can you walk or move or do you have problems with that as well. Brain grows your whole life if you make demands on it. We have a pretty good notion of mapping of the entire brain ,not just 10 %. Brian if you think that Israel carried out 9-11 then you do have a considerable brain injury from falling down the stairs. Brian do you know that surgeons can remove half a child’s brain to stop multiple seizures and the other side can take over the function almost completely.It is called a hemicolectomy oh I mean hemicerebrectomy. But what can surgeon’s do to remove racism, bigotry and hatred from your brain. Even the best jewish doctor in New York could not help you. You may be suffering from “writing with an accent syndrome”
I’ve seen stroke victims who were unable to walk even regain most of their abilities. Stop your cr’p.
The situation in England (and all of Europe, it seems!) is breaking my heart.
For the love of God, people, STAND UP!
“Eurabia, Land of the Dhimmis.” (Terry)
There is no such thing as Eurabia except in the mind of conspiracy theorists and Europeans-haters.