When pundits and politicians talk about “negotiating with Iran,” it conjures up an image of well-dressed statesmen sitting in elegant rooms, talking about the niceties of international relations. But this is only a part of the picture; much of the process is conducted in little hotel rooms by secret intermediaries, and they talk about very unpleasant things, such as torture and blackmail. At least one recent “breakthrough” in relations with Iran was extorted from Great Britain and the United States by an Iranian proxy group in Iraq that kidnaped five British civilians two years ago, and, in the secret negotiations that have been conducted by anonymous middlemen two and three arms’ lengths away from the British Government, have offered to swap them for Shi’ite terrorists in American hands.
At the end of last month, an Iranian-sponsored terror group in Iraq announced that they had reached agreement with Her Majesty’s Government that would result in the staged releases of five British hostages in exchange for several terrorists held by American forces. Not only that, but the Guardian reported that “efforts to finalize the deal were a factor in Britain’s move to re-engage publicly with Hezbollah’s political wing in Lebanon this month.”
In simple English, if the story is true, we and the Brits appeased the Iranians on two levels: we agreed to release their killers and the Brits legitimized Hezbollah. Both we and the British officially reject dealing for hostages.
Kidnaping works most of the time (otherwise they wouldn’t do it), as Tony Soprano would be one of the first to tell you. It works for the Mafia, the Somali pirates, and for terrorists, including Iran’s ruling mullahs. I saw this first-hand in the mid-1980s, when I was an intermediary for the Reagan Administration, dealing with the regime of the Ayatollah Ruhollah Khomeini, whose terror instrument, Hezbollah, had taken several American hostages. Like every other democratically elected leader I know of, Reagan could not bear the thought of American citizens being deprived of liberty, and the actual circumstances were even worse: American hostages were being tortured to death. In the course of winning the release of several American prisoners, Reagan made numerous public and secret gestures in favor of the mullahs, and they responded by toning down their anti-American rhetoric, and by calling a temporary halt to the kidnapings. When the Americans agreed to sell weapons to the Iranians, the mullahs ordered Hezbollah to release some hostages. The world saw the “diplomatic” gestures and proclamations, but the secret hostage negotiations were a central part of the story.
Anyone wants to be polite, nice, understanding, tolerant and generous with the scorpion? What if you accidentally hurt the feelings of the scorpion? Where did you get the idea that the scorpion had feelings?
Okay, I know, you’re not a crocodile!
You can’t play ‘patty cake’ with the Devil. You also can’t negotiate with people who would more than love to see your head on a platter.
My solemn prayer is to see ‘Islam’ wiped off the face of the earth which will cause a great deal of true PEACE to happen as a result.
Hostages are being taken precisely due to President Obama’s weak administration for his refusal to define terrorists & terror states as EVIL; this moral relativism pervades the Democratic Party to their very rotten, corrupt cores.
Our enemies are aware how weak the Obama Administration is. They are not wasting such as opportunity to exploit the hostages for their own ends. President Obama will give in like he did on his G-20 trip.
President Obama votes “present” again while bashing America.
Couple of weeks ago (mid March) when I was in the US, I met an Irish expat in the terrorism/espionage section of Barnes & Nobels in San Luis Obispo in California. He was rumbling about how IRA has come back making troubles for the British and peaceful Irish people because Obama had the US Special Forces, working side by side the Irish/British security forces, withdrawn. And sure enough, I checked the news regarding IRA and yes they have made a bloody come back and harassing the brits. Was the guy drunk or high? I have no clue. Was he making it up? I have no idea. But it goes to show how the weakness shown by the United States make people the world over unhappy and uncomfortable. It shows that the weakness of the US is felt every where and people don’t like a weak America. So yes, there will be more hostages including Americans around the world. This is 1978 written all over it again though it smells like 1936.
Why do we care about, let alone negotiate over, people who are stupid enough to go to Iran or North Korea? Sounds like the “Current TV” dua is as brainless as Gore.
“-Now we will both die. What possible explanation or logic is there for such an act?
-There is none,” said the scorpion, “this is the Middle East.”
Esha Momeni is no more hostage, freed since mid october 2008
196.000 dollars caution have been paid for it
Well this is the old tactic of the eighties that the Mullah use in their poker game with the crocodile
umm, elsewhere the crocodile is a frog
Thanks. Actually, she is still a hostage; she cannot leave the country. Although, happily, she is no longer imprisoned.
Hmmm, ten bucks says Daniel Pearl and Nick Berg wish they would have been held hostage by Iran instead of murdered in Pakistan/Iraq…
To Sebastian Shaw:
“Hostages are being taken precisely due to President Obama’s weak”
No…they are being taken because of complicated geo-political/criminal reasons that actually have very little to do with Obama…….
“Once upon a time during a terrible snowstorm, a very nice and compassionate lady found a very dangerous, poisonous snake half frozen and near death in her front yard.
Fearing it’s demise, she scooped it up in her loving arms and quickly took into her nice warm home to help it. After days of her care, feeding it milk and honey and keeping it warm and protected, the snake began to slowing revive. On seeing that her treatment of the reptile was working, she moved closer to it and said, “Oh how wonderful, I healed you. What a wonderful day.”
“Sissssss!” said the creature, and immediately bit her on the hand.
As she lay on the floor dying from the bite, she said to the snake, “I cared for you. Gave you back your life and you bit me. How could you do this to me?
The snake cocked it’s head to one side, looked at her and said, “Hey baby…I’M A SNAKE!”
The End
Not Over.
SOMALIS HAVE HOSTAGES: JOHN KERRY HAS HEARINGS
The Senator is clueless and useless.
http://greensrealworld.blogspot.com/2009/04/somali-pirates-beware-john-f.html
Wonderful article! I posted on another article today how disgusted I am with this administration for not even commenting about the latest hostage/pirate situation. Not even a conciliatory, “We’re thinking of the family at this time.”, sort of statement. How this all turns out is anyone’s guess but right now all of the situations hanging in limbo speaks loudly about the backbone (or lack thereof) and will of President Obama.
As a sidenote to #8 Herb: The reasons they have been taken may have little to do with Obama, but their not being returned has MUCH to do with Obama. Where is his outrage at the pirate hostage situation? I hear crickets, do you?
“how disgusted I am with this administration for not even commenting about the latest hostage/pirate situation.”
we also had a hostage/pirate situation with a sailing-boat, it was solved this afternoon by our navy :
http://www.google.com/hostednews/ap/article/ALeqM5hPvqTr_AWcOn-W2FAuK6fzmVLfyQD97FPA082
Well, our administration didn’t comment on what it intended to undertake too, the pirats have cell-phones.
“10. AThinkingPerson:
Where is his outrage at the pirate hostage situation? I hear crickets, do you?”
Outrage is an over-valued commodity. I don’t want outrage. I want war ships. Like the USS Bainbridge. The FBI’s on the case too. If you think that’s insufficient, what do you think a little “outrage” is going to add to the mix?
The history of the WHOLE world is who is stronger and wins. That’s a fact.
Too many people in America now think that if we are just nicer , or have the right prez…. then everything will just be UTOPIA, NIRVANA,
or some other hippie notion…
Doesn’t work … never has.
p.s… your UTOPIA is Not mine…
He’s not going to give in – he will let our brave Americans die. He won’t even address the situation, as if not talking about it will make it magically disappear. By refusing to make a decision, he is making a decision. He hates Americans and doesn’t care if they perish, as long as he is “worshipped” as The One.
3. Delia . . . “My solemn prayer is to see ‘Islam’ wiped off the face of the earth which will cause a great deal of true PEACE to happen as a result.”
You DO know that that equals 25 percent of human population, right? You DO know that you would wipe out approximately 2 billion innocent men women and children. This is such textbook nihilism . . . “True peace is just around the corner, but the only way to get there is to keep killing people.” You’re a genuine sociopath. And there you have the reason you and the other professional victims around this board will remain cast aside in America’s future. When Obama said America has been arrogant, dismissive and even derisive, you all jumped up in anger and outrage. “How dare he say anything like that!” “Why would he say such a thing?” Well, Delia is why. And Delia is why we’re leaving all of you behind. You can stay here with Rick Warren and live a purpose driven life. See how long that keeps you entertained. Frankly, we don’t respect you and we don’t like you. We’re moving ahead with the rest of the world. They’re much more fun.
Honestly, Delia, you’d be better off searching the Internet for more creepy YouTube videos, maybe some more escort photos to claim as your own. The world is just too big for you . . . all.
We can’t be wimps and win against pirates or any enemy.
Peace as a reality has never existed in human history. We need to be strong enough and willing to pursue our enemies with the same effectivness that we had on the Iraqis fleeing Kuwait with their looted wealth.
Anyone that attacks us should not live long enough to rejoice or mourn. Assume all hostages are dead and make sure their captors are.
Warships are useless if they are not allowed to fight.
i can certainly understand why the US navy would be intimidated by the pirates…
…just look at their setup at eyl… very impressive.
here’s a map that shows how the pirates strategy fits into the big picture…
“Where is his outrage at the pirate hostage situation?”
Charles Krauthammer convincingly argues that Barack Obama should not be in front of this story. Fair enough. But what might he be doing behind the scenes? My guess is that virtually nothing is being accomplished. Obama is seemingly too committed to “soft power” responses. The fact that the politically correct FBI is involved in probably bad news for the captured merchant marine captain.
I, too, heard Charles Krauthammer make his argument against Obama getting involved. I say he could at the very least voice some sympathy towards the captain’s family. He and Michelle showed more interest in the new swingset they installed at the White House than the fact that an American citizen is being held captive by armed bandits yards away from a Navy ship. Say what you want, showing compassion and concern does not equate to weakness. Not saying anything at all and allowing this travesty to continue surely does.
Delia #3 states “My solemn prayer is to see ‘Islam’ wiped off the face of the earth which will cause a great deal of true PEACE to happen as a result.”
oneofmyown #17 responds “You DO know that that equals 25 percent of human population, right? You DO know that you would wipe out approximately 2 billion innocent men women and children.”
Delia said nothing about the slaughter of Muslims, but rather an end to the ideology and institution of Islam.
It is the ideology of Islam that motivates, indeed mandates, that Muslims convert, subjugate or kill all infidels, just as NAZIsm drove good Germans to commit heinous acts.
The way to defeat Islam and eradicate it is to expose the truth about what it really is, and get Muslims to face up to it.
The best place to start is by exposing their “holy prophet”, Muhammed, for what he truly was. He was a sadistic sociopath, a murderer, a slaver, a rapist, a thief, a decapitator, a mutilator, a mysogynist, a paedophile, a sexual pervert, a genocidist. He was everything that is evil.
How many people know the story of the camel thieves of Urayna? Muhammed caught them and rendered “Islamic Sharia” justice. He cut off their hands & feet, then burned their eyeballs out with hot iron pokers. Then he threw them on scorching hot rocks under the searing Arabian sun to die agonizing deaths.
Can anyone defend this? Is this the kind of man anyone should revere? Muhammed was just a very successful Charles Manson.
But don’t take my word for it. These facts come straight from the Islamic war manuals, the Koran and Hadith. It’s there in black & white, recorded in history for all the world to see.
Please help expose the barbaric truth of Islam.
~ The Infidel Alliance
I agree that the President should be not held personally responsible for every single situation that arises across the globe, but this is a national security issue involving a “Typical American Working Joe.” It is an American national security issue now – he is in the driver’s seat, like it or not.
Despite the supposedly saavy media machine that is backing him, he is in the forefront following the openly deferential “Saudi Bow” move, and his blow-off of the pirate (terrorist) question yesterday to continue talking about the home economy situation was sickening.
I’d prefer him to make another “Special Olympics” joke than blowing off a question of real substance – his real answer as to the WH response to the situation of an American’s life in the hands of terrorists. How do the American hostage’s family feel when the Commander in Chief cannot even express his concern without a teleprompter approved response? It displays an utter lack of concern, but I’m sure the statist trolls will defend it as his protection of an “ultra-secret- super-duper on the down low” plan.
When you guys get it, please reveal it ASAP, because the rest of America is waiting.
Bullsh!t.
His approach to foreign affairs is under
#23 ThinkingPerson:
You’re absolutely right. Trust me. This guy doesn’t care, and he’s confused about WHY he should, and more than a little miffed that people are getting a little distracted from “Hope and Change.”
Shame on you folks for suggesting that Obama is not doing anything. Why, I’m sure that at this very moment he and his speech writers are furiously formatting text to fit on a scrolling display.
Oh, ‘one of my own’ – we all know you are a troll but it is nice to think just how much less than 25 percent of the world’s population you are. Delia has a rightful reaction to a religion based on the extermination (or brutal subjugation) of anyone unable to defend themselves. If we assume that the name “Delia” implies a woman then the right is doubled. The assumption that we can have a perfect world if we just hold hands is more than naive. Some of us feel that we must fight fire with fire. Perhaps we should not judge, but we should fight. Or maybe we weren’t nice enough and that’s why Pearl Harbor was bombed? Because we were unpopular?
I am worried sick that President Obama’s top people are micromanaging the crisis. They should essentially get out of the way and let the navy do whatever it deems necessary. This is the time for the civilian leadership to take a back seat to the military. God help us if left-wing lawyers dominate—and proceed as if this is a mere criminal justice matter.
24 The Infidel Alliance. Thank you for that clearly expressed and well informed statement.
There is a kneejerk sense of “we have to be nice” that has been so driven in to us for who-knows-how-long.
And that, combined with political correctness, has made it both difficult to get the truth heard, when the lefties keep screaming “You’re not being nice! You’re a terrible person!”
Seems to me that the “O” is more interested in importing his fancy pizza chef from St. Louis then he is in solving this little situation. And by solving I don’t mean giving in to the terrorists demands. Again, we’re being tested folks. And we’re failing. Does anyone think that the worlds terrorists and general bad guys are not taking note? What’s it going to take for the country to wake up, a mushroom cloud over LA?
17. one of my own:
You said the right things. Delia’s mind is more than sick. Just wait for her vitriolic response.
Herb said
“I want war ships. Like the USS Bainbridge. The FBI’s on the case too. If you think that’s insufficient, what do you think a little “outrage” is going to add to the mix?”
The *FBI* for pirates?
Good God, there is a whole huge history of how to deal with piracy, in the original ‘international law’ and it involved nooses and cannon, not the Bobbies.
The Bainbridge?
A warship doesn’t mean squat with no spine in our leader to actually use it for anything — except to perhaps further illustrate our voluntary impotence.
Some old-fashioned, non-focus grouped ‘outrage’ from the much maligned ‘gut’ would do wonders for developing some backbone, some will.
Rope and Chains.
31. newscaper:
Hey, I know this is PJM, so uninformed, simplistic views like yours reign, but a few points:
A) “The *FBI* for pirates?”
Yes, crazy I know…but that’s actually part of the FBI’s job! And yet you blithely call them “bobbies,” as if they’re walking a beat, swinging a club.
B) “The Bainbridge? A warship doesn’t mean squat”
Make that TWO warships… The USS Gettysburg is in the area now. And perhaps you may think it doesn’t mean squat, but if I was a Somali pirate floating around in a life boat surrounded by American warships, I don’t think I’d be telling myself, “Ah…doesn’t mean squat.”
As for this nonsense: “no spine in our leader to actually use it”
It’s not spine we need. It’s wisdom. Perhaps you have the foolproof plan to ensure that Captain Phillips survives your display of spine, and perhaps you should share it with everyone.
vivo@30
You guys are so predictable. Hostages? What hostages? You have nothing to offer on the subject at hand so you throw sticks and stones at Delia. If you and one of mo’s own take a closer look at Islam you will find that the Prophet approves of blaming the woman for everything or using the nearest available female as a scapegoat for one’s own fears and shortcomings. Incidently you will also find this works to the grave detriment of a significant number of those millions your comrade in keyboards “said the right things” about.
32 Herb
With all due respect, wisdom is something arrived at by means of time and reflection upon previous experience. Time is on the side of the pirates, not the shippers, not the hostages, only the pirates. If maritime history is any guide, what is needed and missing is resolute and ruthless action. To call for it is not to be indifferent to the fate of Capt. Phillips or any other hostages, far from it. Be assured that those with whom you disagree care no less about his fate than you do. But I daresay he would be among the first to tell you there is far more at stake here than his survival.
My understanding from reading the comments of many sailors, both active and retired, is first of all, that the sea is different from land, which is obvious upon reflection but is nevertheless easily forgotten right at the outset. Second, there are two obligations incumbent upon sailors under all flags: giving aid to anyone in distress at sea and the suppression of piracy (which is, by its own definition, ‘against all flags’). It needs a sailor to explain it properly, but my understanding is that there is an ethical precept common to all seafaring people that derives from their commonly held wisdom acquired over the centuries which is the basis for both obligations. Common sense (mine, anyway) says the failure to act against piracy in the time honored way can only help the pirates and in no way assures the safety of any hostage.
If I was a Navy Seal I’d be drooling for the assignment to take out the pirates. Silently!
I believe that when hostages stop being called hostages and start being called casualties of war marks the end for the pirates.
How close is the free world to that point? Certainly the pirate situation must be addressed. The free world must stop looking for an immaculate solution. It is afraid to finalize the battle for fear of leaving dead hostages. This battle can never be won as long as the current mentality prevails. Some hostages will live and some may die but ultimately you eliminate future threats.
Dr. Ledeen, since you were involved in those Reagan-era negotiations, were there any Israelis government help and support for shipping arms to Mehrabad airport? During the same time that you remember, were there Israelis government representatives helping to ship arms to the same regime you are mentioning now? Would you please share what you know of those daily or weekly flights that took place between Israel and Tehran in the midst of Iraq attacks on Iran? I did not a see word mentioned about the role of Israel in these dealings, and I’m sure you can shed some florecent light on it.
I’m afraid that anti Obama forces are cooking a stew for him and we are possibly seeing signs of it now.
Mr. Ledeen is as on-target as usual. Appeasement seems to be all around us.
See “Appeasement, Old and New” for the Obama policy explained by Chamberlain.
And check out “Ahmadinejad and Munich Nostalgia” on the spectacle of human rights lectures from tyrants.
Both on http://www.mistermoleman.com.
Wow. I see the usual trolls are still obsessed with Delia.
Well, here’s a prime example of what Islamists do to women [especially pretty, left-wing journalist women]:
http://www.jihadwatch.org/archives/025592.php
Yes, this was a Canadian woman but the link I provided is still releveant to the topic.
Be sure to actually read some of the comments on the matter too which are enlightening.
Thank you to the posters here who ‘had my back’ and understood the meaning behind my point and my prayer. There are many victims under Islam [men, women, children].
Please read Phyllis Chesler’s articles here on PJM to understand the full, evil gravity of Islam.
My last post is in ‘moderation’ status [most likely because I provided a link to an recent article].
Anyway, all I meant about being rid of Islam has already been well said here and that was my [well-intentioned] meaning…that we need to rid the world of this evil which is NOT a religion.
delays are entirely my fault, delia. i’m not very attentive on saturdays…
43. Michael Ledeen,
Oh, I fully understand. You PJM bloggers need time off too for goodness sakes!
God bless,
Delia
I can’t disagree with Delia.
Check out “Religion of Peace” and see their important distinction between Muslim individuals and Islam itself:
http://www.thereligionofpeace.com/Pages/Statement-on-Muslims.htm
Michael,
Fool that I am, I was bullied as a kid. Rather, I let others bully me until my Dad pointed out that I had to hit them back, and to do it hard. Damn, but it worked! I busted one kid’s braces, and his dad came down heavy on him for picking the fight.
I had rather expected Reagan to follow a roughly similar tactic: First hit the perps hard and ugly, quietly, in the dark, and let it be known at arm’s length that they will continue to lose assets until they behave. There’s absolutely no sense going cap-in-hand unless one can also regretfully say something back-channel like “So sorry to hear about your sub… all those sailors! Our condolences to their families.” If they don’t cooperate or return prisoners, you hit them hard and ugly in the daylight in public for the whole world to see.
Eventually the bullies and his kin elsewhere get the message.
Ran, I think everyone is either a bully or bullied in high school. I was never in a physical fight with my bullies; I learned to play sophisticated mind games to spook them.
This works with terrorists too once they know you’re willing to kill them without mercy or impunity.
there are some weird pic of Iran (and a caricature of O) :
http://www.iran-resist.org/article5292.html
Good point Sebastian. Reagan’s win secured the release of the Teheran hostages because they were afraid that the cowboy may just start pushing red buttons… in the beginning. I recall a sudden willingness to cooperate with the new president-elect.
Thing is, once they realized – later on – that Reagan wasn’t going to make ‘em glow in the dark, it got ugly. Beirut. That bought us the Cole and the Embassies and eventually NYC, DC and PA. Point being, mind-games work on the rational, not the fanatic. Fanatics and fools need be shown hard visible lessons – more to cow their potential followers and bank-rollers than anyone else.
In general,they LOVE hostages,it works for political purpose. Yes, Dr. Ledeen, hostages EVERYWHERE.
I would like to tell you this story. On 5 May 2008, son of respected Kuwaiti Ambassador at Warsaw, Poland – Mr. Khaled Al-Shibani – takes three Brazilian Jewish youths captive in a Hotel in Warsaw.
Police stormed a hotel room in Warsaw Monday 5 May 2008 “Holiday Inn Hotel” , where a Kuwaiti man identified as Mohammad 23-year-old and he claiming he had a explosives, briefly held captive three Jewish teenagers, who were staying here in Poland for Holocaust commemoration ceremonies.The three Brazilians “originally identified as Israelis”, they were pulled into a sixth-floor room of Warsaw’s Holiday Inn after 9 A.M.
Police broke into the room just before 10 A.M. and took the suspect into custody without incident and none of the captives was harmed, and police found no explosives. Then the hotel was evacuated for a routine search. The area around the hotel was sealed off and police vans, ambulances and firefighters trucks were at the scene. Yes thus the heads of the diplomatic missions to those respected illegitimate monarchal families educating their sons “Art of violence and slaughter. I think he acted only thanks to shocking views that he hears it everyday from his father.
It was outcome to promoting hatred and scorn toward Jews and Christians by tyrannical regimes and by despotized illegitimate monarchal families in the Middle East through their DIPLOMATIC MISSIONS around the World. If a SON AMBASSADOR from very oil-rich country and claiming itself as the best ally to the US has acted terriblely and shamefully. So, what you do think about others?!
# 38. Harry: “The free world must stop looking for an immaculate solution- – Some hostages will live and some may die but ultimately you eliminate future threats.”
Harry, I entirely agree with you.
***A world without tyrannical regimes & without fundamentalist Islam***
42. Delia: . . . writes . . . “Anyway, all I meant about being rid of Islam has already been well said here and that was my [well-intentioned] meaning…that we need to rid the world of this evil which is NOT a religion.”
Then when I called her on it, she dissembles . . . “Anyway, all I meant about being rid of Islam has already been well said here and that was my [well-intentioned] meaning…that we need to rid the world of this evil which is NOT a religion.”
But that’s not what you said, is it? Hence the problem with the Right.
@51 one of mo’s own
That is one stunning exercise in incomprehensibility.
As I said, the Prophet himself, not to mention your average Islamic terrorist, would heartily approve of what you’re doing. Go after that bitch and stay after her until you’ve made her the scapegoat for your own failures and shortcomings.
Hence the problem with narrow-minded, agenda-driven partisans who’ve stopped thinking for themselves, aka the Left.
20. Evil Pundit wrote:
Warships are useless if they are not allowed to fight.
Peter writes: Not warships! Contingencyships. Keep up with the current administration terminology.
51. one of my own,
I’ll pay your ticket to an Islamic Country and if you aren’t raped, sodomised and treated like a dog, get back to me.
1) This is my derrier, I am bending over:
Hussein Obama is now backing off US demand for Islamic Republic of Terror in Iran to halt enrichment according to NYT, before the confounded negotiations with 5+1 with US in it can start.http://www.nytimes.com/2009/04/14/world/middleeast/14diplo.html?partner=rss&emc=rss&pagewanted=all
2) It feels good, but just leave me alone afterwards, OK?:
Hussein Obama is now considering to offer the Islamic Republic of Terror in Iran a hegemonial “Regional Deal” in return for …what? http://www.thenation.com/blogs/dreyfuss/426374/is_iran_demonic_ask_dennis_ross
3) Bob ‘Chicken’ Gates, our secretary of Hiding-under-the-bed says “Don’t Attack Iran!” Humm, I wonder if Bibi Netanyahu will send him a gift for this. http://news.antiwar.com/2009/04/13/gates-iran-attack-would-create-backlash/
As Any Shiite chants: “Hussein! Hussein! Yaa Hussein!”
I am afraid the writing is on the wall, and it is in Farsi. It says: “You Have Lost & Death to Amereekaa and Israaeeel!”
God cannot save us this time around.
And “How Can This Be?”; for Hussein Obama “IS” the Islamist Kwisatz Haderach!
The Emperor has no fig leaves this time around to conceal his true self.
Tons of Shame upon “W” and his “sheep in wolf’s clothing!” miserable and helpless VP for their failures on Iran. Same goes for AEI by the way!
Good Night John Boy!
The era of promoting democracy has officially ended and the appeasement policies of negotiating with terrorists, Islamists, and South American dictators are now in place. US now telling all freedom loving people around the world, we don’t care what your government has done and will do to you, we (American) now say the hell with promoting democracy. We now want to follow the dark policies supported by Europeans, NYT, BBC, AP with no regards for human rights. We Americans now want to show the freedom fighters around the world our middle finger and say you wasted your time to follow Americans for helping you to establish democracy in your countries. From now on don’t waist your time to support any American policies, because policies will be changed and your struggle for anything related to human rights will be ignored by the next administration. That is what forces who are against US want which is: don’t ever count on your relationship with the US.
ok.. I am a litte upset at all of the warmongering. It’s almost as if you people don’t realize that our poicies in the US over the last 50 years hasn’t escalated tensions over seas.. what with the neverending financing of countries to go to war for us.. and the never ending sanctions we put on these countries, and when we declare our agreements with them.. and indiscriminatly break those agreements..
and then we get mad when those countries decide to torture and maim our people..
That’s why our administration repubs and democrats alike should refer to our forefathers texts. Our country has always kept it’s strength by not meddling in other countries affairs, by maintaining trade and friendships..
Boy the neocon republicrats seem to have you people brainwashed..