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What Would Dietrich Bonhoeffer Say to Anthony Weiner?

"It is essential for the image of the Leader that the group does not see the face of the one who goes before, but sees him only from behind as the figure stepping out ahead. His humanity is veiled in his Leader’s form."

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Paula Bolyard

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July 28, 2013 - 3:00 pm
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Our modern generation often displays a profound misunderstanding of the real nature of leadership. Our culture sometimes prefers to elevate entertainment idols or rhetorical phenoms to positions of leadership, regardless of their qualifications. We tolerate deeply flawed, immoral men as our leaders because they manage to accomplish some good or they can “bring people together.” We fail to count the cost of the ensuing long-term cultural rot when we tolerate immoral, unethical leaders who answer to no higher power than themselves.

This is not a modern problem. In January 30, 1933, Adolf Hitler became chancellor of Germany, ushering in the Third Reich. Just two days later, a 26-year-old theology professor named Dietrich Bonhoeffer gave a radio address titled “The Younger Generation’s Altered Concept of Leadership.”  Eric Metaxas describes in his book Bonhoeffer that the radio broadcast was disrupted before Bonhoeffer could finish — it is unclear whether Hitler’s henchmen were responsible — but it addressed, almost prophetically, the yearning of the younger Germans for the wrong qualities in a leader. Having been raised under the boot of the Weimar Republic, a society in which “religion” had replaced true Christianity, the youth sought an idealized version of a leader:

The group which produced him now sees him already bathed completely in the light of its ideals. It sees him, not in his reality but in his vocation. It is essential for the image of the Leader that the group does not see the face of the one who goes before, but sees him only from behind as the figure stepping out ahead. His humanity is veiled in his Leader’s form.

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The PJM word filter makes correct descriptions of Democrat political exuality impossible.

See: Winston Smith; 1984 and the 'thinning' of the dictionary.

This site ought not be consigned to blue noses.

Such a limit would make most commentary about Weiner, Clinton, Huma, Spitzer, et. al. so elliptic that all content is lost.
38 weeks ago
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Here's a man who says he's "Carlos Danger"
Each time that he appears he's even stranger
For every move he makes
The greater chance we take
That he will bother us again tomorrow

Carlos Danger, man
Carlos Danger, man
Please cancel him from Twitter
And take away his phone
38 weeks ago
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Well, one can do worse than to cite Bonhoeffer. This problem with allowing Clintons and Weiners to assume leadership is that we falsely assume that there is a separation of some kind between public and private behavior. This, of course, is ultimately based on the fundamental Progressive assumption that feelings and intentions overrule actual results, that what we want to happen is necessarily what will happen. In reality, of course, if a person cheats on his or her spouse, he will also likely cheat on his friends, employers, and constituents.
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my neighbor's aunt makes $73/hr on the computer. She has been unemployed for 5 months but last month her payment was $14490 just working on the computer for a few hours. Read more on this site http://www.wep6.com
37 weeks ago
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my classmate's mom makes $64 an hour on the internet. She has been without a job for 7 months but last month her pay check was $13647 just working on the internet for a few hours. Go to this web site and read more.....http://www.wep6.com
37 weeks ago
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I was just looking through the book of Ezekiel in God's word the Bible and stop when I got here:
" Then the man brought me to the gate facing east, and I saw the glory of the God of Israel coming from the east."
wondering about USA and Israel and how God feels about these two nations?
Does God want to makes these two nations God's holy nations? If God does ....God must see them as two harlots as of today. This is good having Jesus to beg God to show us great mercy and help us not to grief the holy spirit
Wow!
TWo nations becoming light of the world as God builds God's holy temple on earth.
just a thought but the other thought as God takes away distance so much more is demanded from us
38 weeks ago
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I am not a big fan of Bonhoeffer. He tried to turn Jesus into a political leader, and his failure to distinguish the roles of the state and the church turned Christianity into a form of Islam. You don't kill political leaders, no matter how vile they are, in the name of Jesus. It is one thing for the church to practice civil disobedience, but the church has not authority to assassinate people. Bonhoeffer turned the Gospel into political activism of the worst kind.
38 weeks ago
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I don't like Bonhoeffer's admonition about the head of a household keeping his children submissive, the unspoken corollary, the submissive wife.

Doesn't sound healthy to me.
38 weeks ago
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tanstaafl,
That admonition is from the Bible and it's a description of the qualifications for a leader in the church. The Bible is full of examples of men who were not good fathers and wreaked havoc on their families and the nation of Israel. A lot of people get hung up on the word "submission" because they misunderstand it. Biblical leadership is never to be cruel or domineering. Rather, it is sacrificial -- the husband and wife should "submit to one another out of reverence for Christ" (Ephesians 5:21). And while wives are instructed to submit to their husbands, the husbands have an even higher call: "Husbands, love your wives, as Christ loved the church and gave himself up for her" (Ephesians 5:25).
38 weeks ago
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Thanks for your reply.

If you want to change submissive to respectful, father to children, children to father, I would be more amenable.

Islam means submission, which I'm sure is no small part of my highly negative reaction to the word. The morons carved up Theo Van Gogh for making a very short film called Submission.
38 weeks ago
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I don't believe in any human being being submissive to another human being as function of protocol or, even, Biblical imperative.

And how often does the ideal (in theory) translate to the real, in practice?

Too much authoritarianism.

And Promise Keepers still give me the creeps :)
38 weeks ago
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Tanstaafl,

I can understand the struggle with these words, but I see the ideal all around us. In our world, the modern world, we have created legal equality (or at least we did before affirmative action overtook equity). We have freed our public selves from the constraints of religion and family. But the awful consequences are legion, and recognizing this and addressing societal atomization is not suggesting that we return to some pre-modern conception of submission. Here, at least.

We live in a time with great promise both because freedom is available and because it has, counterintuitively, strengthened these Biblical precepts and obligations: we have free will to submit, which alters the thing. Freedom of religion is why religion thrives in America. And I say this although I also think women increasingly get a too-dark rap here. Frankly, there is a lot of anti-female whining by people who excuse themselves for sounding like a bunch of . . . Cosmo letter writers . . . because of the existence of Cosmo letter writers out there in the cosmos. That's intellectually lazy.

I wish the Right would choose some third path, other than reflexive anger at "women" in the belief that some feminists' (agreed they are the dominant ones, politically and in academia) "anger at men" justifies their own self-indulgence. Women strong in their faith and principles like Ms. Bolyard are the antidote to this conundrum, and I am enjoying her columns. She's a great new voice.

I thank God I found my way to religion late in life. It was through my exposure to pro-life feminist scholars, incidentally. Their vision trumped the normative and powerful public ethos of sexuality-based freedom -- and they were fighting with words and ideas and compassion in the trenches, something that I don't personally have the temperament to do. Perhaps I'm just very lucky that I have a husband for whom submission -- in the entirely Catholic definition of the word -- is a mutual privilege in our marriage. I know not everyone is so lucky. But the people I know who have that luck have found it or made it through sacrifice and obedience.

It beats the crap out of trying to find happiness through endlessly tearing everything down. Not that I think that's what you're doing.

I have mixed feelings about Promise Keepers. As with all institutions, some exploitative people are empowered among their leadership and followers. But I see a lot of men trying to rebuild a sense of identity and belonging that has been stripped from a society where divorce is the norm (not woman-hating men -- divorce -- and everyone's responsible).

Any movement that discourages the mass exodus of men from their childrens' lives (and the replacement of dads with government) is better than the mass exodus that exists today. Most of the single moms I dealt with in social services didn't want to be alone raising kids. But it made more sense economically, and frankly, they were pretty screwed up, as were their sex partners (who almost universally were living off their benefits in one way or another -- mutual dependency on government enforced by government, and nobody trying to break free). Anything that addresses that honestly and encourages men to take up positive parenting roles has value.
37 weeks ago
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so hard, kicking against the goads...
37 weeks ago
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Although a president or a mayor or even a city councilman may be legitimately viewed as a leader, I view public service as just that, service, not someone I look up to to lead me by moral example, but someone who (it is hoped) will make intelligent decisions based in common sense instead of lousy decisions as a function of narcissism or all manner of personal flaws.

Unfortunately, many drawn to public office these days are in the game for all the wrong reasons, such as self-aggrandizement.

Anthony Weiner could be their poster child.

But we're not children. Elected officials work for us. And, yes, character is everything in determining how well they work for us.

"... weigh the positive outcomes of a Kennedy or a Clinton presidency"

I want to thank Monica Lewinsky for getting Gingko Blowjoba into the lexicon.

http://radaronline.com/exclusives/2013/07/bill-clinton-sex-tape-monica-lewinsky/
38 weeks ago
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In today's society, true leaders are very rare, and thus very precious. That's why we seldom see men like Reagan in public life. The dross, such as Obama and Weiner are a dime-a-dozen, and a plague on our country.
38 weeks ago
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We tolerate deeply flawed, immoral men as our leaders because they manage to accomplish some good or they can “bring people together"


That comment and others in this post show the naivete of the writer - people like Weiner and Obama only accomplish any good by accident; everything they do is purely for their ego or political calculations.
38 weeks ago
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Leftists are working to destroy existing American society. They hate America and Americans. I't's always a mistake to attribute motives to others based on our own. Leftists are either complete aliens from American society, or members who cannot accept normal restraints on behavior (perverts, criminals, atheists, loons, or general *ssholes). As social animals, exclusion from society is uncomfortable. Destroying the rejecting society removes the problem, theoretically. American Leftism has been trying to hi-jack the natural American race-war since the 10s and 20s, when the CPUSA created numerous front groups supporting the black side. Now they have the biggest anti-white front group of all -- the Democtratic Party. Related to the story above, Weimar was a totally Leftist, atheist, anti-German movement, exactly like the New York, Hollywood, MSM, conspiracy of today's USA. The reason Hitler gained power was because the Nazis were the only group willing to fight it out with the Left in the streets. The other non-Nazi parties were comparable to today's GOP in their cowardice and uselessness. As the majority of people are normal, and as normal people always reject Leftism, the amazing weirdness and ugliness of Weimar art and literature is explained just as Hollywood's anti-white, anti-Christian, anti-American films are..
38 weeks ago
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The PJM word filter makes correct descriptions of Democrat political exuality impossible.

See: Winston Smith; 1984 and the 'thinning' of the dictionary.

This site ought not be consigned to blue noses.

Such a limit would make most commentary about Weiner, Clinton, Huma, Spitzer, et. al. so elliptic that all content is lost.
38 weeks ago
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Weiner has a purely sham marriage, -- his 'wife' is ... -- as is her lover Rodham-Clinton.

It's not for nothing that he was Xxxting to a female aid employed by Rodham-Clinton's BROTHER.

Their soap opera is ... -- and hails from the ethics of Imperial Rome.

In which case, Weiner = Nero -- a complete attention ... .

Famously, Nero couldn't get along with any of the normal politicians of his era. He was too busy primping for the stage.

(His idea of a command performance was that the audience was commanded to sit through his drivel -- by the Praetorians!)

As for Huma, double secret agent of the Muslim Brotherhood, ALL is permitted while on jihad.

The larger public ought to know that she is not normally living with her 'husband' -- spending essentially all of her waking -- and bedding -- hours with Rodham-Clinton.

Hence, his sexual frustration. ( Shades of the Bill.)



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