August 19, 2011 - 11:43 am
Should we be troubled by Kathryn Bigelow’s (The Hurt Locker) latest project, a film about the death of Osama bin Laden that’s slated for release one month before the 2012 elections? Roger Simon and Lionel Chetwynd look into the controversy in the latest edition of PJTV’s Poliwood.
“There is every reason to believe that this Administration is pressuring legitimate arms of the government to assist popular culture in the making of a propaganda film.” –Lionel Chetwynd
Remember, there is only one thing that Obama does to ‘win people to his side’ or to control them. One thing: Perform.
Obama is not an intellect, he doesn’t analyze theories or history. He doesn’t analyze data or statistics. He has no interest in developing policies and programs; he leaves that to others.
Obama is not an idealogue; he has no commitment to any ideology for its own sake, i.e., because he has examined it and feels that it performs its function in society – the best. Therefore, Obama is not a socialist for its ideology; he has no interest in bettering the lives of people.
Obama is a socialist for its psychological structure; it sets up Rulers and Ruled. Obama, as a pathological narcissist, cannot relate to people as equals. He has to feel superior to them; he has to feel he controls them. Socialism, as a political ideology, is a perfect ‘home base’ for him.
But don’t make the error of thinking that he is committed to it as a means to help Americans to a ‘better life’. Obama has no such agenda; his agenda is to control Americans, to made them dependent on Him, on His Government. He can’t allow them power (ie.wealth) or independence of thought and action (his massive regulations on everything).
Back to Obama-as-a-Performer. Since Obama is unable to interact directly with other people; he can’t allow them to be equal to him..and he can’t relate directly to reality for that would mean that its hard data might overpower his ability to deal with it….Obama has long ago moved into a modus operandi as a Performer. He performs..to control you. That is, he presents Himself to you. As charming, as joking, as friendly, as filled with good will and constant vague talk about the future. And that’s all there is.
He misinforms you (aka lies: his statement that ‘I won’t be able to send out your social security checks unless the debt ceiling is passed’ was a blatant lie). He emotionally manipulates you with fear (the economy will collapse unless you sign the Stimulus); and he’s always ready to tell you that YOU are the problem (you don’t understand; you mustn’t argue with me; you must trust me, you must….).
He’s a performer; he jumps on stage, he waves and calls for a ‘shout out’ and tells you all about hope and change and the future (all abstract terms)…and..”I’ll have a plan in a month’…This performance has been his default position all his life. It’s worked – as a community organizer, as a junior lecturer who simply read out the course outline; as a senator who had no thoughts but merely voted ‘present’.
Essentially, a Performer is a constant Campaigner. That’s all he does. This film is Obama-as-a-Performer. It will show Obama, the Brave Knight, saving His People from..whatever. And that’s the definition of Obama; the Messiah, the Savior.
Notice Obama’s imagery. He came in, in 2008, as the Messiah, to Save His People. Not only the oceans would cease to rise, but everyone would get along with each other. Hmmm.
Then – why does he constantly evoke class warfare, telling us that ‘the rich must pay’. Why does he invoke ethnic hatreds – telling hispanics to go out and confront ‘the enemy’. Why does he belittle those Americans who want to adhere to the constitution and a limited government? Doesn’t he think that they have a right to their view?
And now, Obama is The Victim. Crucified by the moneylenders (the rich) and the Roman Bureaucrats (aka Congress). Next – is the film, showing him as the Savior.
We need a president who deals with reality. Not someone constantly performing in a stage role.
Excellent.
Having watched the kenyan during ths circus, er, I mean, campaign, somewhere around six or eight months before the final vote I came to the conclusion that ONE WORD perfectly describes him. In the three years following, this one word has only been shown to suit him the more prefectly” megalomaniac.
Utter rubbish.
Like Hollywood would need to be *asked* to make a propaganda film for Sock Puppet!
I had to stop watching this video, I’ll confess. I find the idea of the Bigelow movie apalling, and the idea that the administration would in any way influence the Pentagon towards assisting her after she apparently burned them during the filming of “The Hurt Locker” is rather ridiculous. However, I have no patience at all with the criticism of Pres. Obama re the killing of Osama bin Laden.
I frankly am no friend of the President, at least in terms of his politics. Unless his opponent in the coming election is a complete moron (Ron Paul this means you) I’ll be voting against the President when he runs for re-election. I dislike much of how the administration has been run, from silly mistakes like the gift-exchange fiasco with the British P.M. and the famous attention-whore party-crashers, all the way around to the disaster that was the stimulus funding and the explosion of bureaucrat salaries during his administration. That doesn’t mean that I, or conservatives in general, have to criticise everything he does, says, and thinks, every minute. When he gets something right, we should acknowledge this and move on. It’s not like there’s no other material to criticise him on: he’s given us reams of material.
To be blunt, then: accepting that both Mr. Chetwynd and Mr. Simon have long and storied careers in Hollywood, neither of them has ever killed anyone. Neither has given orders to have someone killed. Neither of them has given orders to start a military operation in which soldiers who are your responsibility are in danger of death or serious injury. I’ve never done it either, I’ll stipulate that. That’s the point. We haven’t made this sort of decision, and those who have and do insist that it’s not as easy as it looks, or if you find it easy, you need to find another line of work. Yes, to an outsider it looks as if it was an easy call to make: bin Laden’s a war criminal, the mastermind behind 9/11 and the deaths of almost 3,000 civilians, the majority of them Americans. There have been other attacks, before and since, that were his responsibility. However, no one seems to have considered some obvious considerations that no doubt would have occurred to anyone *before* the decision to send the SEALs in was made. Was it a trap? Was it safe to operate in Pakistan like that? Do they know we’re coming? Do they have security, sentries, etc? What reaction will the Pakistani army have? Do they know he’s there? Are they alert, perhaps ready to respond quickly when we do this?
All of these questions would have to be asked and answered before *I* agreed to send such an operation into Pakistan. I don’t know about Mr. Chetwynd, but I can tell you I’d spend more than his “16 seconds” to make the decision. I don’t know if I’d have taken as long as President Obama; I might have been able to make the decision sooner, or I suppose it’s possible I could have taken longer. The fact that the operation, when we actually did it, resulted in only the death of bin Laden (and wasn’t there an al-Qaeda courier who was killed also?), and no friendly casualties, leads everyone to act as if nothing ever goes wrong in one of these operations: so why are you hesitating? I would assume it’s the functional equivalent of assuming everything will go according to plan on a movie set, and the filming will never go over budget (though I’ve never made a movie either; maybe they always *do* go according to plan).
Regardless, criticism of the President in this instance seems forced and hypercritical to me. It’s not like he hasn’t given us material to work with elsewhere, and if we don’t cook something up here he has a flawless record in front of the public. Concentrate on the movie and the access issue; that’s the area with traction.
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I had to stop watching this video, I’ll confess. I find the idea of the Bigelow movie apalling, and the idea that the administration would in any way influence the Pentagon towards assisting her after she apparently burned them during the filming of “The Hurt Locker” is rather ridiculous. “
I had to stop reading your post. The Hurt Locker premiered at the Venice Film Festival in Italy in 2008. So she burned Bush, not Obama, for a war he opposed.
I’m not sure I get your point. The Pentagon got burned by Ms. Bigelow, and she would under normal circumstances be persona non grata there regardless of which administration was in the White House, when it happened or later. Chetwynd’s point here is that the Bush people weren’t willing to bend the rules for him, or even open doors, and he hadn’t pissed them off: Bigelow *did* piss them off, and apparently someone made some calls to open doors for her aferwards, because they want the movie made. I have no problem with that criticism of whoever in the White House did this; it’s execreble, and ought to be made completely public (so that we know who called and what they said, presuming that there was a call) so that the public can be properly informed about who they’re voting for.
I wasn’t criticizing Chetwynd or Simon for their stand re the movie; it was the flip “I’d send the SEALs in in 16 seconds” quote that got my goat. I still say it’s a stupid thing to say.
The gentler, kinder American version of “The Triumph of the Will.”
OK, I think this docudrama will be great. We’ll see Hillary, Gates and Pinetta pressuring Obama while he sits around looked dumbfounded and suffering from brain lock for several months prior to the actual action. We’ll see Hill and Leon sending for Obama out of the golf course to come back and give the final go ahead after the copters had lifted off toward their target… Uh, oh no, I was just daydreaming.
EXCELLENT Video and post — a real insider view with specifics about how the sausage gets made (albeit still in the early stages in the case of the Bigelow project). Thanks for that.
I’m looking forward to some of the dialogue and scenes.
SEALS burst into bedroom. OSAMA hides behind WIFE ONE.
OSAMA: “Oh, bummer!”
BANG! SCREAMS. OSAMA dodges the bullet.
SEAL 1: “No, Obama, greetings from Barack!”
OSAMA peeks out from behind screaming wife one. BANG! Osama goes down on his back, holed in his face.
SEAL 2 : “Take that, evil doer!”
WIFE ONE: (screaming in Arabic) “The beastly Bush did it!”
How the hell do we deal with the mind control machine of the Left? We all need a swift kick in the rear for granting these Hollywood twits the power to shape our opinions. They have every right to theirs and every legal right to produce whatever fiction they choose but they cross an ethical, moral line when they produce a fiction in the guise of a “documentary” for the subversive purpose of influencing an election. They will no doubt loudly proclaim they are only exercising artistic license with absolutely no political intentions whatsoever but the successful assassination of Osama Bin Laden is the only (undeserved) feather in Obama’s cap and to plan to tout it one month before the election can have only one purpose. Let’s hope it only succeeds in turning his defeat from a landslide to a significant, irrefutable majority.
Live and die by the sword.
Oh my – you mean hollywood is actually going against their PC rules and making a movie with an Arab villain (he’s the good guy in ALL their movies). Okay, maybe just this once, and only since it helps cover their collective arses (a rather large mass) to cultivate any pretense of The Won’s achievements…
(This morning’s Pajamasmedia email lost the link to this PJTV page, there are others there who have not found it yet.)
Ok, so here’s the other side of the story, namely that OBL died years ago of kidney disease. Some brave film makers need to put on screen before Nov 2012.
http://www.321gold.com/editorials/moriarty/moriarty111308.html
http://rt.com/news/bin-laden-cia-agent-2006/
“Bin Laden died of disease in 2006” – former CIA agent
http://globalresearch.ca/index.php?context=va&aid=25924
A neighbor of dead terrorist leader Osama bin Laden says the man seen in new videos released by the US government is actually a friend of his and not the Al Queda founder. “His name is Akhbar Khan (Han), He owns the house that was Osama’s house. I know him very well,” a Pakistani man named Shabir told the BBC. Shabir says he is his a neighbor of the man. “It’s all a fake, nothing happened,” Abbottobad resident Mohammed, who has been selling newspapers in the two for the last 50 years, told the BBC.
Out of the 50 Abbottobad residents interviewed by the BBC, only one believed that Osama bin Laden was in their town. Others claimed the pictures and video of bin Laden in his home are fakes made with a computer.
EXECUTION OF BIN LADEN: “That’s Not Osama”: Neighbor. “It’s all a fake, nothing happened”
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-south-asia-13329078
Osama Bin Laden: Pakistan’s scepticism over videos
http://globalresearch.ca/index.php?context=va&aid=25923
BREAKING NEWS: Dead Men Don’t Talk: US Navy Seals Destroyed to Cover Up Washington’s Bin Laden Execution Hoax?
August 20th, 2011 at 2:18 pm
Hmmm, who to trust?
OBL’s neighbor, Pakistan intelligence, and one of hundreds of OBL location opinions or dozens of US Navy SEALS and their collegues…
I understand what you are saying but check out the other references including a retired CIA operative who had met OBL. I have lots of respect for the SEALs. But, I think you know as well as I do, that at the end of the day they will go where ordered, and if it’s a WAG THE DOG situation, orders are orders. The fact that there is such an inappropriate propaganda angle being openly displayed by the WH makes it plausible enough to consider. I would not discard out of hand these statements by someone who professed to know Akhbar Khan, who may have well been the set up target. Grassy Knoll, anyone? You MUST have seen “Wag the Dog” by now- go rent it if you don’t know what I’m referring to. “..This is nothing…”
So is it confirmed that cameras are actually rolling here? Because so far, my reaction to all this is a resounding “meh.”
First off, there is the fact that this film must take one of three tacks: 1) It will glorify Obama for his courage in making the same decision that 99% of the American public would’ve made without hesitation. (credit where due, what we are told about his logistical requirements of the operation were quite proper.) 2) It will glorify the courage and dedication of SEAL Team Six. 3) Both.
Starting with #2, this is a bit tough. Can we really make a heroic, feel-good movie about an organization that was damn near wiped out by it’s enemy in the aftermath, and everyone knows it? (Yes, eventually, but now?) NO ONE who watches this film can possibly get it out of their heads that, like it or not, Osama’s allies got their revenge, big time, and that many of the heroes we are now watching wer in fact killed by the Taliban. How is that going to play overall? Did ‘Black Hawk Down’ make Clinton and Washington look good?
Back to #1, was it Mayer or Goldwyn who said, “if you want to send a message, try Western Union”? If this tries to propagandize the glory of our Genius-in-Chief, people are gonna smell it a mile away, especially the ones who might be more inclined to see a film like this than say, ‘Friends With Benefits’ or the like. Maybe Michael Moore sold a lot of tickets, but did he really change a lot of minds, or was he just selling bibles to the congregation?
It has been noted that the producers could so easily terminate immediately any and all questions of motive simply by announcing a release date of November 15, 2012 or the like. If they dig in their heels about the October date, well, there’s a pretty fat message to us all right there, no Western Union necessary, and that date alone will waft an odor for miles.
Still…. whatever. Hollywood liberal, stop the presses. I really can’t see this film making any difference at all, and if it is the least bit clumsy with Obama love, it will be an embarrassment, and worse, an insult, to us and to SEAL Team Six. And it will be haunted by those 30 men lost, quite frankly, and that’s tough to work around. I’m not convinced cameras will even roll. There is a time for this story, but that time is still a ways away, well after 2012, I would think.
There is also a propaganda film in the works about the Viet Nam war. The heroes of course will be those who fought against the war, not in it.
Precedents for Hollywood making propaganda films date back to WWII, when movies supported the war effort, bond drives, rationing, and enlistment.
I also think the movie approach is in line with the way labor unions, for decades, have acted as law-abiding “friends” of the Democrats, extending Democratic ad budgets and media coverage beyond what is allotted to the Democratic party.
Recall also that the ACORN accused last election of participating and enabling voter fraud has never been investigated by this administration; recent reports highlight the return of ACORN with superficial name changes.
The proposed Osama/Obama movie looks to be no more concerned with ethics around the election, than does ACORN. If ACORN isn’t funding the pioture.