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IRS Lawyer Says Scandal Was Overseen by D.C.

July 17th, 2013 - 8:52 pm

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“Top IRS officials in Washington, D.C. planned and oversaw the agency’s improper targeting of conservative groups, according to the 72-year old retiring IRS lawyer who will testify Thursday before the House Oversight Committee,” the Daily Caller reports:

Retiring IRS lawyer Carter C. Hull implicated the IRS Chief Counsel’s office, headed by Obama appointee William J. Wilkins, and Lois Lerner, the embattled head of the IRS’ exempt organizations office, in the IRS targeting scandal and made clear that the targeting started in Washington, according to leaked interviews that Hull granted to the Oversight Committee in advance of Thursday’s hearing.

Treasury Inspector General J. Russell George will return to Republican chairman Darrell Issa’s committee Thursday along with two central characters in the IRS saga: Hull and Cincinnati-based IRS employee Elizabeth Hofacre, who previously gave Hull’s name to congressional investigators, fingering him as her Washington-based supervisor.

Hull is naming names.

“In April 2010, Mr. Hull was instructed to scrutinize certain Tea Party applications by one of his superiors in Washington. According to Mr. Hull, these applications were used as ‘test’ cases and assigned to him because of his expertise and because IRS leadership in Washington was ‘trying to find out how [the IRS] should approach these organizations, and how [the IRS] should handle them,’” according to Oversight Committee documents.

“According to Hull’s testimony, Ms. Lerner…gave an atypical instruction that the Tea Party applications undergo special scrutiny that included an uncommon multi-layer review that involved a top advisor to Lerner as well as the Chief Counsel’s office,” according to Oversight Committee documents.

Much more, right after the page break.

As Ace noted last week, “Lerner Embraces Theory That The Process Is The Punishment” — and does so quite publicly and cavalierly:

Patterico found an important Lerner quote from 2011:

1 March, 2010 – IRS officials start targeting organizations with “tea party”, “patriot”, and “9-12;” in their names.27 June, 2011 – Lois Lerner, Director of Exempt Operations, learns of the inappropriate targeting. She initiates an audit of the office involved, but the targeting continues.

17 November, 2011 – Lois Lerner, Director of Exempt Operations, tells Businessweek that receiving a thick questionnaire from the IRS is a “behavior changer.”

Incredible. Patterico is taken with the fact that she admits this to a magazine; if this is the sort of thinking she brags about to a national news magazine, one can only tremble at what she’s holding back.

In America — in any free country — you are supposed to be free from punishment and compulsion unless you are found guilty of some misbehavior through Due Process.

But Lois Lerner doesn’t like that idea. Instead, she embraces the notion that people can and should be punished and compelled into acting the way she prefers, not after Due Process has found them blameworthy, but before anyone even thinks to file charges.

She’s decided that the process itself can and should be a tool of state coercion. She doesn’t need a finding from a legal tribunal to impose burdens on freedoms and to compel what she considers “correct” behavior — she’ll serve as judge and jury herself, and impose the punishment of a “thick questionnaire” as a tool of “behavior change.”

For Lerner, trying to cohesively strong arm others into changing their “behavior” is a pattern that dates back at least into the previous decade:

Under the direction of Lois Lerner, the Federal Election Commission sued the Christian Coalition in the 1990s. She harassed the Christian Coalition for three election cycles. Eventually, she lost her case. At one point Lerner even asked a conservative if Pat Robertson prayed over him. (Sound familiar?)

Then there’s this…
Lois Lerner made this offer to Republican Senate candidate Al Salvi in 1996, “Promise me you will never run for office again, and we’ll drop this case.”

Tomorrow (Thursday) should be fun if this report plays out:

FOX News reporter Carl Cameron told Bill O’Reilly tonight that on Thursday House Oversight Committee Chairman Darrell Issa (R-CA) has information that will move the IRS scandal up into the White House. “What he said to me today was make sure to watch tomorrow’s hearing because he’s going to present the evidence to prove it…. That he can get it right up all the way into the White House before it was all revealed.”

And just as a reminder, in 2009 President Obama “joked” about siccing the IRS on his enemies.

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Consider Lois Lerner. A proven anti-Christian bigot who has used the police and tax power of the apparatus of state to persecute Christian groups and is not being charged with a single crime- not harassment, not treason, not civil rights violations, nothing.

Vast swaths of Americans don't know about this because of a virtual blackout on her behavior and speech by the MSM and NPR and PBS.

Worse, a size able chunk of Americans do know about it and either don't care or are actively in favor, because anything that promotes the redistribution isn't machine and
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Wasn't the conservative asked about prayers offered by Robertson Col. Oliver North? This women has conducting a vendetta of evil for decades. Imagine how many more like are burrowed in our govt.
39 weeks ago
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This fascist Lois Lerner creature should be in prison for the rest of her life. Of course, so should her boss.
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my friend's ex-wife makes $84 every hour on the internet. She has been out of work for 9 months but last month her income was $19559 just working on the internet for a few hours. Here's the site to read more http://max47.com/
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Did anybody notice that all the dems on the committee are getting mmore and more partisan and hysterical in spinning for the prez. Now they are attacking the non-partisan IG and trying to make him the bad guy. I think they know that after getting to one of Obamas highest political appointes at treasury, Issa is now in danger of closing in on the top.
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So far it is hapening as expected. The WH spinners tried to point the arrow at the losest level possible, with the rugue cincinatti office theory. But none of the lower level minions are willing to die for obama, so they keep pointing their fingers at the higher up that ordered them. so the cincinatti people pointe the finger at this cartet hull guy. Now carter points it at one of obamas top guys in treasury. Who will that guy point to.
39 weeks ago
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I got a better idea - stuff her in the Navy's soon-to-be-retired X-47B Unmanned Combat Air System, complete with the new bio jet fuel, and then launch it towards Gitmo. 100 to 1 is doesn't make it.
39 weeks ago
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Congress ought to order that Lerner be held in contempt and held in Gitmo without the possibility of bail until they get around to questioning her again. And they should take their time. It would be a real behavior changer for her. And just think how it would promote the value of Diversity in Gitmo. There aren't any females imprisoned there now.

Support Diversity -- Lock Lerner and Holder up in Gitmo.
39 weeks ago
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This whole Administration is loaded with cons and crooks and I d not believe there is any hope left for America. What is now going on in the Trayvon Martin case is nothing more than vindictiveness on the Justice Departments part.If Zimmerman had been fully black nothing would have been done or said about this.
The NAACP is more racist than the old KKK from what I have read and I can almost understand now why they had such a movement. The NAACP acts as though they are the Klan. Most black Americans admit they feel they are more racist than whites and it is a proven fact although the FBI and Federal Government try and hide it over half of the murders in America are committed by blacks who make up 13% of the population. Those figures are hid from the public daily to keep white folks and others from knowing the truth. Between the MSM and Federal Government those of other races are being mistreated horribly compared to blacks.
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Lerner needs to go to prison over this, and Obama needs to be impeached. I doubt that she will roll over on Obama so it is probably too much to hop for reall justice and see him sent to prison too.
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None of this should surprise us. This administration is determined to destroy all opposition to the welfare state. Are we in protofascism or full-blown fascism? Will the right unify to stop them? See http://clarespark.com/2012/09/05/proto-fascism-and-the-democrat-peoples-community/.
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liberal fascists, classical Marxists, not much difference unless you are one of them.
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Consider Lois Lerner. A proven anti-Christian bigot who has used the police and tax power of the apparatus of state to persecute Christian groups and is not being charged with a single crime- not harassment, not treason, not civil rights violations, nothing.

Vast swaths of Americans don't know about this because of a virtual blackout on her behavior and speech by the MSM and NPR and PBS.

Worse, a size able chunk of Americans do know about it and either don't care or are actively in favor, because anything that promotes the redistribution isn't machine and
39 weeks ago
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Not only that, she is still drawing her full salary.
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...because anything that promotes the redistributionist juggernaut will be supported.

What is the way out of this? If most Americans don't know and many of the rest don't care when government sponsored religious persecution happens on this level, to what level do things need to rise before this behavior ends?
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I personally believe there are only two possible ways for the entire United States, or portions thereof, to recover our Constitutional Republic is 1.) Complete secession from the United States of the "Conservative" states along with deportation of ALL Liberal/Communist/Marxist representatives and organizations or 2.) The Second American Revolution. Unfortunately, I do not believe ANY group or groups has the balls it will take to carry through with either option. So, America will continue its decline into a fascist third world like crap hole and we will all suffer as a result. At some point in time, after Hussein has become our dictator, the American military might will be reduced to but a shadow of its former self and a foreign nation will conquer us. With the grace of God, I will be dead before this comes to pass. But, come to pass, it will. Mark my words.
39 weeks ago
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Wasn't the conservative asked about prayers offered by Robertson Col. Oliver North? This women has conducting a vendetta of evil for decades. Imagine how many more like are burrowed in our govt.
39 weeks ago
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