The Schoolmarms Tell the Terrorists to Play Nice
“You’ve been with the professors
And they’ve all liked your looks
With great lawyers you have
Discussed lepers and crooks….
You’re very well read
It’s well known
Yet something is happening here
But you don’t know what it is
Do you, Mister Jones?
–Bob Dylan, “Ballad of a Thin Man”
The entertainment director on the ship of fools that constitutes so much mainstream analysis of the Middle East—I refer, of course, to Thomas Friedman—has produced a wonderful paragraph that beautifully characterizes the problem, exquisitely expressing a Western mentality that not only makes it impossible to understand the Middle East but even sets up the question in a way that ensures many people don’t even begin to confront the truth.
So perhaps it is worth disassembling. Sound like fun? Let’s go!
The paragraph is from an article entitled, “Egypt – The next India or the next Pakistan?” And that’s the first problem. Analogies are no substitute to understanding the specific reality of a country and culture, its history and balance of forces that shape the local political culture. You don’t understand Egypt by comparing it to India or Pakistan—very different places indeed—but by examining Egypt itself.
Let me first quote the entire paragraph and then deal with it a bit at a time. Here’s the whole thing:
“Yes, democracy matters. But the ruling Muslim Brotherhood needs to understand that democracy is so much more than just winning an election. It is nurturing a culture of inclusion, and of peaceful dialogue, where respect for leaders is earned by surprising opponents with compromises rather than dictates….More than anything, Egypt now needs to develop that kind of culture of dialogue, of peaceful and respectful arguing — it was totally suppressed under Mubarak — rather than rock-throwing, boycotting, conspiracy-mongering and waiting for America to denounce one side or the other, which has characterized too much of the postrevolutionary political scene. Elections without that culture are like a computer without software. It just doesn’t work.”
I will now go a sentence at a time.
“Yes, democracy matters.” It is strangely ironic that suddenly democracy has become the main issue shaping the American debate over the Middle East. When President Jimmy Carter in 1978 called for democracy in the shah’s Iran that call might have played some role in setting off a revolution that didn’t turn out too well. After a hiatus—due in part to that debacle—the democracy issue returned under President George W. Bush. The people who pushed that idea became known as “neoconservatives” and were absolutely loathed, even demonized, by liberals and the left.
Now this idea that democracy would solve the region’s problems was indeed a bad one, having failed in Iran, produced a disaster in the Gaza Strip (where U.S. policymakers didn’t object to Hamas running), been (perhaps unfairly) ridiculed in Iraq, and become a deadly joke in Afghanistan. Yet suddenly the left adapted the conception of the man they most hated in the world! And nobody in the mainstream debate even remarked on that rather obvious point!
Thus, we get an Obama policy based on a Bush idea and a concept tried out by Carter. Except while Bush’s approach worked acceptably in Iraq because the extremists were defeated militarily, Obama’s approach helped put the radicals into power in Egypt and will soon do so in Syria.
One would think Friedman would continue by explaining that strategic interests are more important for U.S. policy than formal democracy. Nope. Instead, he assumes that democracy is or should be everyone’s goal:
“But the ruling Muslim Brotherhood needs to understand that democracy is so much more than just winning an election.”
Whenever an article or editorial contains the words “needs to understand” you know that’s trouble. For one thing this phrase often means that some Western pipsqueak whose most strenuous activity is hailing a taxi is lecturing men ready to commit mass murder and crush their opponents under a hobnailed boot. By the way, the Muslim Brotherhood is unlikely to heed the advice and will be no worse off for doing so.
Yet this also raises another intriguing issue: Why “must” they do so? Suppose staying in power, establishing a dictatorship, and chopping off various body parts of those who don’t live the way they decree is their goal? Suppose they already know that “democracy is so much more than just winning an election” but couldn’t care less? And what will the columnist, op-ed writer, or editorial scribe do to them if the Muslim Brotherhood doesn’t heed his advice? Experience shows these people won’t even use mean words in response. What a joke.
Doesn’t Friedman know that Obama’s hero and guru, Turkish Prime Minister Mehdi Erdogan, has said that democracy is like a streetcar and you just have to decide where you want to get off? Hint: You get off as soon as possible after you’ve won the election.
“It [democracy] is nurturing a culture of inclusion, and of peaceful dialogue, where respect for leaders is earned by surprising opponents with compromises rather than dictates.”
At this point I must tell a story I once heard from a former member of a motorcycle gang, though I cannot attest to whether or not it actually happened. There was a really dangerous criminal motorcycle gang (it made Hell’s Angels look like Obama’s Ostriches) and the local police decided something must be done. They picked a young policeman to infiltrate the gang and dressed him accordingly.
The undercover cop met the gang and tried to join. Suspicious, they asked him a question: What is the meaning of these ribbons we wear? The symbolism involved various kinds of murder, rape, and various acts I won’t describe for a family audience but each one had a very specific significance. Unfortunately, the policeman hadn’t been briefed on this and after a long pause he answered, “I thought they were just decorations.” I won’t describe his fate.
That is sort of like Friedman and various others thinking they can teach revolutionaries willing to commit genocide how to play nice. They don’t understand the significance of what these radicals say and do. Indeed, they don’t understand that what they say–especially in Arabic–is significant at all.
These tough guys aren’t interested in inclusion, political dialogue, or “surprising” opponents by giving them presents under their tree. No. They are interested in seizing state power and exercising total power. They are ready to order others to martyrdom and in some cases to be martyrs themselves. They are ready to deliberately and coolly order what happened in that Connecticut elementary school many times over. The only limit on that behavior is a consideration of whether or not it will help their cause at any specific moment.
They don’t care whether the New York Times or some other American newspaper they don’t read is going to scold them. In fact, if they do know what’s in this mass media they understand that no matter what they do they are more likely to have it explained away rather than criticized.
Shouldn’t we recognize that reality rather than lecture them on playground comportment?
“More than anything, Egypt now needs to develop that kind of culture of dialogue, of peaceful and respectful arguing — it was totally suppressed under Mubarak — rather than rock-throwing, boycotting, conspiracy-mongering and waiting for America to denounce one side or the other, which has characterized too much of the post-revolutionary political scene.”
There’s that word “needs” again. Why does Egypt “need” that? One might argue that it needs such a system in order to be a truly democratic society whose top priority at home is increasing living standards and abroad is living in peace with its neighbors. The full answer to that question lies beyond my space limits but briefly: that might not work in Egypt; the people who think it would work lose all of the elections; if you try to implement such a system you are far more likely to be overthrown or face chaos.
Suppose you have no way to solve your country’s social and economic problems. It then makes more sense to stir up passionate hatred of “the other”; distract attention from your own failings by blaming foreigners for the problems; and engage in aggression abroad so the masses can blow off steam and get some loot. Ironically, this is the kind of thing that Western radicals claim leaders of their own countries have done. It is amazing that they never seem to notice this is how Arab dictators have repeatedly felt a “need” to do in the past.
Also, whatever Mubarak’s shortcomings, there was a lot more dialogue and peaceful arguing under his reign then in any Islamist state or in Syria and Iraq under radical nationalist regimes. This line of argument that is all too familiar from the left in assuming that pro-American dictators are more brutally repressive than anti-American dictators. Usually, the truth is the opposite.
And then at the end, Friedman admits that the post-revolutionary political scene has not been so great. Should this have been a surprise or wasn’t it painfully obvious back in January 2011 what was going to happen? It was obvious to me and a few others but scarcely anyone in the mainstream media pointed out the consequences. And those who dared to be right are practically blacklisted from those places despite having been correct.
The main Western accomplishment of the last two years has been to move from step one to step two in the mainstream interpretation of what’s going on in the Middle East:
Step one: The Islamists will be moderated by gaining power through elections.
Step two: The Islamists should make themselves become moderate after gaining power through elections because they need to do so.
What is needed is an altogether different approach:
Extremist revolutionaries whose goal is to set up regimes that are supposedly implementing the will of Allah—a will no human can question or alter—and who loathe the West, despise Christians, and want to commit genocide on Jews are not going to be moderated. Nor are they going to follow Western instructions on how they should behave. Nor is democracy their ideal, since they don’t believe at all in governance on the basis of the majority unless the majority agrees with them.
These points are all rather obvious, aren’t they? Yet what we have seen for the last two years is not an attempt to understand these realities but rather a series of obfuscations and rationalizations designed to shore up a mythical world that is increasingly diverging from the situation on the ground.
Lewis Carroll wrote the following dialogue for “Alice in Wonderland”:
Alice: “Do you think I’ve gone round the bend?”
Charles: “I’m afraid so. You’re mad, bonkers, completely off your head. But I’ll tell you a secret. All the best people are.”
The problem nowadays is that an insane interpretation of international affairs seems to be a quality defining who “the best people are.” A man has just been appointed secretary of state for exhibiting a particularly virulent case of this malady.
So the MB has won. And yet there will be almost no one to take the Western leaders and media to account for their stupidity two years ago. All those rosy predictions about the Arab Spring . The Israelis have yet again been proven right and the US and European media dead wrong. How is it possible that such a glaring example of incompetence and ignorance cannot be exposed? The Israeli media should rub it in. And Barry Rubin does just that!
Two years on – who was right on the Egyptian crisis?
http://www.madisdead.blogspot.co.il/2012/12/two-years-on-who-was-right-on-egyptian.html
As I recall, Tom Friedman made his reputation in the US by reporting from Beirut for NYT during Lebanese Civil War in the 1970s. I’d like to know what his reputation is in the Middle East among knowledgeable observers such as Prof. Rubin. Did Friedman actually do extensive street-reporting in the midst of gunfights, kidnappings and bombings or did he hang out in the hotel bar and send out local stringers?
I don’t want to get involved in telling anecdotes and first-hand observations here but let me quote one Middle East expert of real knowledge: The Lebanese know his book on Lebanon was wrong; the Israelis know his book on Israel was wrong.
Barry, I just realized that you are back after your illness. I am very glad to see you writing again as there are very few of us defending Israel and educating people about terrorism and the Islamic Cultural war.
Stay well,
Robin
He is not only back, but in top form. I am familiar with India and the culture
and circumstances there are so different from Egypt -plus its not so much of a democracy as Friedman thinks. What gets me is the pompous, patronizing tone of
Friedman’s lecturing.
Thanks, Robin and Chava.
Friedman et al think of themselves as the vanguard part in America. They feel that the great unwashed just don’t get it. If only they follow their advice everything will come up roses. Aristotle said the same bullshit when he touted the benevolent tyrant and rule of the philosphers. The marxist-lennists said the same thing. The Nazis adopted this philosophy. wikileaks applies this philosphy to cyberspace.This attitude is seen anyplace where “leadership” is imposed top down instead of growing upward.
” Aristotle said the same bullshit when he touted the benevolent tyrant and rule of the philosophers.”
Aristotle did not tout the rule of philosophers. You must be referring to Plato’s Republic. And Plato’s Republic does not tout the rule of the benevolent tyrant. In the list of possible constitutions in Bk. IX, the best ruler is the one who knows the good – a god, for only the gods know the good. The next best is the lover of wisdom, the philosopher, who knows he is ignorant – and he will not be a tyrant, and Socrates was not a would-be tyrant. The worst possible constitution is that with the rule of the tyrant.
Sorry you’re right about the source of the rule of philosophers. However, If I recall correctly the worst government was democracy (rule of the mob)
Friedman’s article is such hogwash. I get the impression that he is just going through the motions and writing what he thinks people want to hear. Maybe he actually cared about something when he wrote from Lebanon but at this point he is just a hack who might as well be writing greeting cards.
Sadly though this sells because people do not want to read the truth especially about the middle east which when you bring it up, most folks just insert fingers in ears and start repeating “Na Na Na Na…” as loud as they can.
Iran manipulated the Bush White House into invading Iraq, key people feeding information to the Pentagon were Iranian Spys. This event will be looked back upon as one of the centuries great spy games; getting the United States to rid Iran of its greatest threat. Purely from intelligence perspective Iran performed brilliantly and flawlessly.
As a result of Iran’s management, the government in Iraq is little more than extension of Iran. Energy contracts are being signed between the two nations, logistical support exchanged, and hard currency is flowing between them. Iraq is laundering money for Iran, and the great game continues, paid for with American blood and money.
The point is the USA is little prepared to deal with Middle Eastern Politics. President H Bush understood this well and why he ignored PNAC war bunnies and stopped at Iraqi Border. President W. Bush listened to war bunnies and the rest is History.
Saudi Arabia funds the MB, Hamas, terrorist training camps, Mumbai terrorist attack, all with intent to see global Sharia law implemented. Their goal is the destruction of Democracy and Sharia law replacing it.
Egypt and Syria are pawns manipulated by Saudi Interests trying to counterbalance gains Iran achieved under W. Bush, nothing more.
For whatever reason people are terrified to identify Saudi Arabia for what they are, including this website. It wont matter what we do in the Middle East until Saudi Arabia is dealt with.
Yes, Saudi Arabia is a major problem,if not the biggest problem since they fund wahhabissm or however it’s spelled. But you lost me at “war bunnies”.
Excellent analysis! I have nothing to add.
When I hear Friedman and his ilk saying that Muslim terrorist thugs “need” to understand something or other, or that they “must” do this thing or that, I wonder if they are serious, or if they or just so out of touch that they don’t get it, or could it be that they are that incredibly stupid that they can’t see what these people they are lecturing think of people like them.
When I hear this nonsense the question that immediately pops into my mind is: “and what are YOU going to to if these people you are lecturing don’t do what you say they ‘need’ to or ‘must’ do?”
They clearly don’t give a damn about what you or I would like to see them do.
Democracy, indeed, civilization as we know it in Western cultures is incompatible with Islam. That’s what Friedman, and those like him, “must” come to understand.
Indeed any comparison with Pakistan or India is senseless. It helps to understand Egypt better, by reading “ Cairo the city victorious “ written by Max Rodenbeck. Friedman an authority in his own mind (kingdom) proves over and over again that he has no clue about the ME. The question is more has he voluntarily given up reason and rationality, or has he sided with the left for personal gain. In other words is he a fool or an opportunistic crook.
Yes, Rodenbeck’s book is a great one.
Surely we’re all crazy for not realizing that the Muslim Brotherhood has plotted, funded, broadcast, published, conspired with Nazis, murdered and terrorized for 80+ years with the objective to share power with its hated enemies? I mean, it’s so obvious to clear-thinkers like Tom Friedman!
Here’s a riddle for cute lil Simple Tom: Tommy, how many Presidents of modern Egypt did the Muslim Brotherhood NOT try to assassinate before they seized power? Hint: it’s a number less than 1.
Yeah, they’re all about the pluralism, dialogue and democracy-building…
In 2013 Yale University Press will publish Nazis, Islamists, and the Making of the Modern Middle East by myself and Dr. Wolfgang Schwanitz, the world’s leading authority on German-Middle East relations. We have hundreds of pages of new material from the archives and newly translated material from German and Arabic. Incidentally, when it comes to the Muslim Brotherhood getting money from the Nazis, we have copies of the receipts and the names of everyone who was handed the money!
Oh, BTW, this was a beautiful&brilliant article by Prof. Rubin, may his health improve and improve, God bless him!
Friendman is a fool. The MB doesn’t need to realize anything. They have won. Basic pyschology teaches that behaviour that is rewarded (successful) will be perpetuated. Why should the MB abandon a clearly successful strategy?
Is that the same Friedman who, just a few months ago, was extolling the authoritarian government of China? Of course it was. There is nothing unusual about a NYT columnist contradicting himself. Krugman is famous for that.
The problem with the Middle East is Islam and the propensity of the U.S. and Europe to elect dhimmis.
“Obama’s approach helped put the radicals into power in Egypt and
willmay soon do so in Syria.”FIFY.
—in Egypt, in Syria, yes and into Lebanon with Turkey protecting them and soon Israel will be completely encircled. After all, isn’t that the ultimate goal?
Friedman wrote:
“It [democracy] is nurturing a culture of inclusion, and of peaceful dialogue, where respect for leaders is earned by surprising opponents with compromises rather than dictates.”
and all I can think of is why he was not writing THAT about the failure of presidential leadership in America’s increasingly hyper-partisan failed democracy?
well, actually, why was not Friedman-Knows-Best-about-Israel writing THAT about how the USA treats the totally democratically elected government of Israel when the PM is from Likud?
ok, I actually wonder why Friedman still has any job…
Love the passion, but is it me or is the article just a anecdotal rant?
It’s just you.
Sydney: perhaps this is the first article of mine you’ve read. There have been hundreds which provide the facts in great detail as well as several books. And remember that each piece can only be about 900 words.