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Thanks to Republican Senators Rand Paul (of Kentucky) and Mike Lee (of Utah), we might finally get on Syria what we were denied on Libya: a real debate among the American people’s representatives over congressional authorization of President Obama’s unilateral war-making in the Middle East.

The Washington Examiner reports that Senators Paul and Lee have joined with two counterparts, Democrats Chris Murphy (of Connecticut) and Tom Udall (of New Mexico), in offering legislation that would block direct or indirect aid for military or paramilitary operations in Syria. The bill, which is posted on Paul’s website, is called the “Protecting Americans from the Proliferation of Weapons to Terrorists Act of 2013.”

The proposal would not affect or prohibit humanitarian aid, but it forthrightly addresses the issue Syria intervention supporters willfully ignore: the factions President Obama is abetting – egged on by the GOP’s McCain wing and their fellow transnational progressives on the Democratic side of the aisle – are Islamic supremacists dominated by the Muslim Brotherhood and closely connected to violent jihadists, including al Qaeda-affiliated groups.

Not to be a broken record (see, e.g., here, here and here), but the Syrian civil war pits implacable enemies of the United States against each other. And as night follows day, they are using their barbaric jihadist tactics against each other. The situation is reminiscent of the central flaw in our Libyan misadventure – which led directly to the massacre of Americans in the “rebel” stronghold of Benghazi on September 11, 2012.

As John Rosenthal acutely observes in his short but essential book The Jihadist Plot: The Untold Story of Al-Qaeda and the Libyan Rebellion, while there are many problems with using the label “war on terror” to describe our ongoing hostilities, “at least the term had the advantage of making clear that the US and its allies abhorred the tactic in question.” Yet, in Libya, and now in Syria, we have turned a blind eye to the fact that terrorism is used by the jihadists our government has chosen to side with. We try to obscure this fact by referring to the opposition forces as “rebels,” the better to avoid noticing that they consider themselves mujahideen (jihad warriors), and by pretending we favor only the “secular” “moderates,” though it is laughable to suggest there are enough of them to topple the regimes in question without allying with the more numerous and formidable Islamic-supremacists factions.

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Two writers I consider must-reads on developments in the Middle East are Andrew McCarthy and Michael Ledeen. What is perplexing to me is that although I find both men persuasive, they seem to be taking opposite sides regarding intervening in Syria. Ledeen seems to be arguing that defeating Asaad is defeating the mullahs in Iran. McCarthy argues that both sides in Syria are our enemies.

I have linked to Andy's post here: http://bobagard.blogspot.com/2013/06/are-they-rebels-or-jihad-warriors.html
1 year ago
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Question: If Snowden is a traitor for revealing possibly illegal NSA activities that could damage our nation's ability to fight Islamic terrorists, then what do we make of Our Beloved President who is currently currying the favor of the Islamic Brotherhood in Afghanistan and Egypt, and supporting Islamic extremists in a half-dozen other countries throughout the Middle East?
1 year ago
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" Report: CIA training Syrian rebels
CBS reports: CIA, US Special Forces training rebels in Turkey, Jordan. Meantime, Kerry arrives in Doha for talks, rebels confirm western military aid has begun to flow, in bid to turn tide against Assad
Yitzhak Benhorin
Latest Update: 06.22.13, 19:20 / Israel News "

http://www.ynetnews.com/articles/0,7340,L-4395445,00.html
1 year ago
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NATO is a mutual defense treaty. NATO dragged the USA into Libya.

So far, most of what the USA has done/ is doing, is to support Jordan.
fwiw, it is rather incredible that the Hasemite, descended from mohamed and the Sherif of Mecca, that King Abdullah of Jordan, has Israel providing border drone service, and now the USA is leaving F-16's and 700 troops from Eager Lion in Jordan.

The Sunnis crave Damascus - to restore the Sunni Arab Caliphate, not the Ottoman Turkish Caliphate.

the sad part is that we seem to be approximately where the Middle East was one hundred years ago. The battle for Syria was in 1918.
1 year ago
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Clear that Obama is inured and immune to criticism. Also clear that the Republicans have neither the guts nor the votes to do much about it. Perhaps, if the US and the world can survive the next 43 months, things will improve.

In the meantime, there will be a continual threat to Jordan, and all 'Islamist' elements, including in Judea, Samaria and in the Israeli Galil and Little Triangle will be encouraged.

I am only disappointed that the Israeli gov't won't do more to distance itself from this more or less insane Adminsitration.
1 year ago
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Not one penny, or American G.I., to Syria. Increase military funding to Israel. They know how to deal with Assad. Barry does not. Barry has no clue. He blew Iraq. He is currently blowing Afghanistan. He blew Egypt. He blew Libya, twice. We need a new CiC before we even consider re-engaging the Islamofascist world. I know how harsh that sounds, but it's true. We have a weenie in the Oval Office. We need to step away from any new engagements. Saudi Arabia has a state-of-the-art air-force thanks to us. Let THEM engage the insane Shiites and their Syrian & Hizballahan tools. Let Sunni Islam fend for itself. For a change. Let THEM bleed.
1 year ago
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Mr. Obama could place the entirety of the US population into a giant frying pan, add some cheap cognac and ignite it with a match, and the commie press would praise him for his actions. That's my take on it, while Mr. McCarthy is behaving as if there still remains a rule of law, much less anyone in the Congress who would bring down the sword of justice on the pernicious occupant in the WH. Fast and Furious? No big deal. Domestic meta-data spying? who cares? Benghazi? IRS scandals, scandals, scandals?

Like Hitler going into the Rhineland in direct violation of the Treaty of Versailles, and NO ONE lifting a finger to bomb his sorry ass, so too today: let it ride, let it ride, let it ride, with one appeasement after another, until the bullies understand quite rightly that no one has the spine to stop them.
1 year ago
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I blame Ron Paul. Save us, Karl Rove, from the hated Paulbots interrupting our mediocre Don King designated loser GOP consultant fees!
1 year ago
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Uh ... huh? Can you expand, Senor?
1 year ago
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Supplying weapons to al Qaeda is an impeachable offense. We are well past the point where the appropriate action to deal with Obama's malfeasance is a debate. Impeach him now.
1 year ago
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There are no impeachable offenses to Obama and his administration, because there is no stomach in the GOP for such a fight. Obama should face impeachment challenges on several fronts: Fast & Furious, Benghazi, IRS-targeting of conservatives, etc., etc. But if the political will is not there to push for impeachment, it will not happen. The GOP is not willing to stick its neck out. End of story.
1 year ago
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You're only half right. There ARE impeachable offenses already recorded. However, as much as the House might want to impeach, for any number of offenses, there is no chance the Senate would convict. None. Zilch. Zero.
This would only embolden him if he got away scot free and if you think an enemies list has been created, there would be hell to pay if he were not convicted. It would be like pointing an empty gun at somebody at getting shot for your troubles.
Let's wait a bit. Suffer what we have to suffer keeping an eye on the 2014 elections. Strengthen the House (if we can), gain a filibuster proof majority in the Senate (60-62 seats), gather 6 or 7 Democrats to join us and THEN go after after his ass! If we don't achieve those goals, well, Katy bar the door and hang on for the ride.
1 year ago
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We need to encourage the GOP to man up. Al Qaeda is at war with America. Supplying weapons to al Qaeda is treasonous.
1 year ago
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Yeah, good luck with that. The Speaker and his lieutenants? I just don't see them manning up for anything.
1 year ago
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I am quite skeptical of the sarin claims. Sarin isn't like mustard agents or phosgene. If you get dosed and you get treated you die. I don't see any proof of mass casualties from the use of sarin. I hear claims about trouble breathing and the like. I suppose Assad's forces could be using very dilute quantities or merely using common insecticides for harassment purposes. When Saddam's forces used chem weapons thousands died. Nerve agents are not a precision instrument of war.
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