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Is Obama Just a Hapless Putz?

July 9th, 2014 - 1:24 pm

In an interview the other day, I was asked what the president might’ve been thinking when he instigated the chaos on our borders with his talk of pen-and-phone amnesty. Half a dozen things went through my mind. Maybe he’s trying some sort of Cloward-Piven maneuver: an attempt to overwhelm our welfare state to the point where we replace it with “a guaranteed annual income and thus an end to poverty.” Or maybe he’s just trying to flood the population with Democrat voters. Or maybe he feels America stole its southland from Hispanic people anyway and it’s up to him to give it back.

The president’s not an idiot so obviously he intended to accomplish something by bringing this humanitarian disaster down upon the heads of ourselves and the children of Central America. What exactly was it?

Then, after the interview, it suddenly occurred to me:  What difference, at this point, does it make what the president is thinking? What difference does it make what he intends? Intentions, as every conservative knows, don’t dictate results. While, in the moment, he has put the lives of thousands of children, the health of Americans and the nation’s security at risk, the end game is out of his control and may — almost assuredly will — be entirely different from what he expects.

Cloward-Piven, for instance, has always struck me as an idiot strategy. The idea that you can cause chaos and then predict what will come out of that chaos makes absolutely no sense. If our welfare state were overwhelmed, who knows what would come out of it? Hell, maybe it would be the end of the welfare state. I can dream, can’t I?

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The best way to determine if the problem is deliberate subversion or lack of education/IQ points is actually simple. And based on confirmable data.

If Obama was merely incompetent, by blind chance, sheer law of averages; at least one of his initiatives would NOT have harmed this country. Can anyone name such an initiative?

He is a deliberate enemy of this country, the Constitution, and the American people. Every act of harm he does is orgasmic for him.

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The only putz in the room is you Klavan...and I am sorry to get so harsh but I am sick to death of the voices on the right with megaphones playing along with the charade that Obama is ignorant. This putz as you call him Andrew stated that he would fundamentally transform the country and that is EXACTLY what he has accomplished.

You are simply unable to understand that his goals and yours are on opposite ends of the spectrum. You assume that his endstate and your endstate have anything in common. He is completely alien to your culture Klavan. Destruction is the aim. Your assumption that he wants to build anything after destroying it is completely wishful thinking. Maybe he just wants to break it

There are a LOT of leftists whose hatred of this country puts them in that state of mind.
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Sorry, Andrew. Wrong on both extremes.

Baracula is a fairly intelligent, dedicated Collectivist. What fools you is forgetting that his values are completely antithetical to America as we understand it.

He has fully embraced Cloward-Piven, and has moved it forward with some very effective improvements. Once you wrap your head around those truths, what he does is totally consistent.
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Dear Mr. Klavan,

First of all, chaos and the wisdom of its ends is not something that sane minds can appreciate. Some things cannot be discussed intelligently without a Christian world view. In opposition to the creative work of God, Satan wishes to walk some day on the face of a rubble-strewn world devoid of human life and crow. Destruction and chaos and to him is something far different and more rewarding than we can imagine. Yet we see it in ourselves. When two [fill in adjective] boys loaded down with guns and bombs walk through a high school of their neighbors shooting and killing and then kill themselves, to us this is mindless incomprehensible chaos. But to them there was a reason. And somewhere some fallen angel crowed. Cloward and Piven may not be so far from Columbine.

Second, the end of the welfare state is inevitable, even if we don’t know what it will look like. The dollar will fail or otherwise the GDP will not support lavish (and by world standards, welfare living is rather lavish) subsidies for people whom the government does not respect or care for anyway. DHS, NSA, DoJ, -- hell, even the CDC care nothing for the people they are supposed to protect. But if we look far enough we can see that one day the inevitable chaos on earth within and upon humanity will be defeated and, not apart from but responding to it, God will return and set up His order and His Kingdom of Christ.

And as for O being a hapless putz, you yourself noted that he “was promoted” (in more than one sense of the word) beyond his competence. But he does not rule by himself. Social agendas are operating at break-neck speed for which O (with his social moral evolutions) is only a spokesmodel. The real power is elsewhere (see the Nightstalker for starters) and O is following orders. Who among the world leaders may ultimately find themselves rewarded with a temporal and temporary victory is uncertain. But in the end none among them will win, not even the lord of the flies himself.

You don’t seem to realize that there is more going on in the universe and on earth than just human machinations, bumbling or otherwise.
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28 weeks ago
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Lost me at: "the (sail eared simpleton is) not an idiot ....

Should read to the effect: The idiot is not (even an adequate PRETENDER to the office of) "president."
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Not sure what the Three Stooges clip had to do with it but it was certainly appreciated.
28 weeks ago
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No way. Obama is an Alinsky disciple. As David Horowitz points out: "Alinsky... proposed ... that radicals should be 'political relativists,' that they should take an agnostic view of means and ends. For Alinsky, the revolutionary's purpose is to undermine the system and then see what happens. The Alinsky radical has a single principle - to take power from the Haves and give it to the Have-nots. What this amounts to in practice is a political nihilism - a destructive assault on the established order in the name of the people." In the same book, Horowitz points out that Alinsky even hated liberals, because they still had ethics, which he evidently thought would get in the way of what he wanted to accomplish, which was to knock everything over with the theory that something better might arise from all of the rubble.

If Horowitz is accurate in his analysis, then this article is the kind of wishful thinking and attribution of good motives that is causing people to let Obama and his minions (yes, I said minions :-) ) run roughshod over the opposition. People keep saying "he means well" and "obviously nobody would do this on purpose" and leave these dangerous people laughing all the way to the bank, as it were. I appreciate the positive human spirit of this article, but at this hour I believe that it is misplaced. (This is not to say that I think Obama is *competent*. If he wasn't such a novice at real life and total narcissist we would be in even worse trouble).
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The only fat chance we have is if somebody can convince Obongo that he is stupid. However, this cannot happen because he is a very special stupid. He cannot see, and is therefore not concerned, if we have a totally different philosophy. It's like trying to convince the cockroaches that they are destroying our house.
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He's a dangerous hapless putz.
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Great points, Andrew. Obama is our Woodrow Wilson. Wilson institutionalized segregation. We don't have that anymore. Wilson helped pass prohibition. We don't have that anymore.

Hell most of the commentators here probably know very little about Wilson, but are convinced of Obama's enduring legacy and America's imminent demise. Very patriotic of them.

Hitler knew what he was doing, and ultimately his incompetence was also his undoing. Both are world-class putzes.
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"...most of the commentators here probably know very little about Wilson..."

JaycenR, you know this how? I almost reported your comment as an abuse of the comment thread and our intelligence. Not knowing much about Wilson? Oh, my...what a silly remark.
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I've always felt exactly the same about the enduring power of the US and how it is nowhere near getting eclipsed. By whom? The Chinese? Please. Last best hope of man on earth. Shining city on a hill. I believe all that stuff. And I think you're right about BO, too. We'll get over him a lot quicker than people think we will. Don't forget who assumed the presidency after a rather similarly hapless man, from Georgia, found himself unable to manage the job very well. I'm watching all this drama unspool from the vantage of a country that really is broken, Greece. As I've heard you mention elsewhere, to get a proper perspective of what an astounding achievement America is, it's helpful to live overseas for a time.
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It doesn't matter what Comrade Obama is or isn't. What matters is that the Soros Cabal of Ayers' communists and other leftist radicals, Gill Foundation's leftists and radical homosexuals, and whatever Middle Eastern investors put up the money and information to push HRC aside and set up the coup d'état of November 2008 do know what they're doing and have largely done it. The US is no longer a hegemonic power, our military is worn out, our political processes simply do not work as the Congress today is even less meaningful than was the Senate in the days of the Caesars, and our economy is an illusion being fostered by the Fed's endless printing of money. Whether he's a putz or not, the Country has been fundamentally transformed. The only thing that comes to mind remotely similar to his indifference to the invasion on our Southern border is Taylor's indifference to the actions of the Southern states between Lincoln's election and his inauguration.
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Wrong, Art. So wrong.

Congress is working perfectly . Exactly as designed. Gridlock has done much to slow, stymie, and subvert the radical agenda.

Hell, you sound like 0bama complaining about Congress. You might just think about that, my friend.
29 weeks ago
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No. Gridlock was to slow partisan domination and allow thoughtful discussion, debate, and compromise. The current complete dysfunction of Congress is a result of a *complete lack of honor* among the leftists. They constantly change the rules in their favor, are complete hypocrites in that they condemn the other side for daring to use any of the tactics that they use all the time (even the filibuster, which is a gift from God when they are in control but the tool of the devil when they are not), and even individuals who have some ethics will gladly sacrifice them in the name of party hegemony. The current system, like any other social construct in this country, assumes that both sides at least have some ethics and honor. Working with the democrat party is currently more like making a deal with terrorists. They pretend to go along if they need to to get power, but they break every deal as soon as they are able. The current situation is nowhere like the gridlock that the system was supposed to produce. NO worthwhile debate happens, just demonization and sabotage until they wear down the opposition and get their way anyway.
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Except it isn't gridlock as it has historically been known. While the Communists, excuse me, Democrats had both bodies, they put their hooves so far in the trough that only their curly tails were sticking out. Once they lost the House, they've gone into the same mode a public employee union uses to preserve the status quo in the face of an employer's demands for concessions. The only way the House can roll back anything the Ds have done is to get the agreement of the Senate and WH or face a government shutdown. The only way the House can use that vaunted "power of the purse" is to get the agreement of the Senate and the WH or face a government shutdown. With the media carrying the Ds' water, there is little hope of winning the politics of a government shutdown and there is NO hope of winning in an election year.
29 weeks ago
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Except it was Buchannan, not Taylor; too early, too little coffee.
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