From the Democratic Underground:
I Hope the Bloodshed Continues in Iraq
Well, that should bring the bats out of the attic with fangs dripping. I won’t be hypocritcal. It is politically correct, particularly in any Dem discussion to hope and pray and feel for our troops and scream “bring them back now”. I’m fighting something bigger.
I’m a 58 year old broad and I can tell you that what is going on in our country isn’t the usual ebb and flow of politics where one party is in power and then another; where the economy goes through ups and downs…….yawn, yawn–just wait a bit and things will turn out peachy keen. That stupid la-la land is over.
I realize that not every GI Joe was 100peeercent behind Prseeedent Booosh going into this war; but I do know that that is what an overwhelming number of them and their famlies screamed in the face of protesters who were trying to protect these kids. Well, there is more than one way to be “dead” for your country. They are not only not accompishing squat in Iraq, they are doing crap nothing for the safety, defense of the US of A over there directly. But “indirectly” they are doing a lot.
The only way to get rid of this slime bag WASP-Mafia, oil barron ridden cartel of a government, this assault on Americans and anything one could laughingly call “a democracy”, relies heavily on what a shit hole Iraq turns into. They need to die so that we can be free. Soldiers usually did that directly–i.e., fight those invading and harming a country. This time they need to die in defense of a lie from a lying adminstration to show these ignorant, dumb Americans that Bush is incompetent. They need to die so that Americans get rid of this deadly scum. It is obscene, Barbie Bush, how other sons (of much nobler blood) have to die to save us from your Rosemary’s Baby spawn and his ungodly cohorts.
The link is from Andrew Sullivan. I scanned the rest of the thread for left-wing (rather than right-wing shout-downs) disagreement. Click on “MORE” to read what I found.
I have no control over what goes on in Iraq, so whether I lament or applaude the deaths of USAmericans is of really very little consequence.
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I’ll venture into this only to say purely on a philosophical level I see your point. What’s happening in Iraq can be seen as the physical manifestation of the cold civil war that’s happening in the states. Those soldiers lives will not have been in vain if their deaths wake the masses up to the tyranny that they are now subjects of. Not saying I agree w/ the sentiment, however, I comprehend the argument.
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GI’s dying isn’t going to stop this war. It will bring on the draft, as previously mentioned. I have three nephews who will get called up. They are not behind Bush or this war, nor are they willing to kill for oil. Generalizations are dangerous. They remove humanity from the equation. This war going on killing isn’t going to do a thing for ending it. It will only break hearts right and left.
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If tomorrow he brought them all home, he would just deploy them for corporate American the next day. Notice how the American people are turning against this war. Notice how they are turning against him. If we are going to save this nation and this world and any more kids used or decades in this unholy corporate war, then the boys and girls dying now are our only defense. They get by with this, your precious kids and their kids are fucked in a zillion ways….and this country is gone. Soldiers are told to happily die for their country. They are dying for squat nothing shit over there right now while Bush tells us they are. However, they are dying for something because the American people are getting fed up with this lying Mafia.
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..if invading hordes were pouring across the border to kill, rape and burn Americans?? Oh, that would be defense, right?? Well, what the hell do you think is going on right here right now?? Four more years of Bush and your country is finished.
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I do not know what it would take to get through to the 20% apolitical voter-sheep. I suspect that another 9/11 would get their attention (NOT THAT I HOPE ONE WILL HAPPEN!!!!), but we could also get us martial law. bush might be blamed for letting it happen, or he might get the credit ‘for leading us through it’. Who knows??
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I think that there are people in Washington who have a concern that casualties will erode support for the Crusade, and oblige them to divert resources on suppressing domestic dissent that could be used to seize resources abroad.
No further comment needed.