Over wine, waiting for the charcoal to turn white, Melissa and I agreed that we wouldn’t mind hippies at all if only they would:
• Bathe
• Shave
• Not put things on their cars
• Not have cars
• Not drive cars
• Not vote
• Not talk about how they’d vote
• Stay indoors
• Specifically, at their own homes
• And, finally, give their kids less granola and more Rand.
• Or at least some Goldwater
Then the wine ran out and now I must go open another bottle.
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I hope you also intend to apply the shaving thing to the hippie chicks too. On that note, enjoy your second bottle. You may need it now.
How about exist?
You know, there was a time when most hippies were true libertarians. I was one of them!
It was all about doing your own thing, and just leave me the hell alone.
I still don’t know when or how it all went wrong….
If you ask me, jay, the goofy hippies all moved to Berkeley; the counter-culture hippies cut their hair, got jobs, then became libertarians.
Casey,
I have to admit I cut my hair. For a while…
Then I actually met Timothy Leary (circa 1988), talked to him for about an hour, and he literally changed my life. He made a lot of sense.
But that’s a story for another day!
Holy crikies, are there still hippies? The kind that don’t bathe or shave? I know there are a few aging ones left here and there, but I didn’t think any new colonies were coming online.
Incredibly stupid comment. So stupid in fact it’s hard to comment and any comments would only polorize you should you recognize you are basing you comments on very shallow and biased perceptions without any historical or sociological foundations. It’s as if you were saying “civil war soldiers” should bath and shave and wear shoes. Dude I’m sure you have your area of experience and you should stick to that. Why are you talking about hippies anyways, there haven’t been any real hippies in more than 30 years.
Less granola more Rand seems especially good advice to me.
But that’s just me.
I can assure you all that hippies do still exist. I actually associate with them from time to time.
They’re easy to find at performances of jam bands such as The Dead (yes, they’re still touring), Allman Brothers Band, Phish, Wide Spread Panic, Government Mule, etc. There’s even a pretty sizeable tribe that follows blue grass music.
There are still people wanting to fight the Civil War, hippies, people who live as if they’re in the Middle Ages, oversized hobbits who grow their own food and live in cob houses that were built last year, and people who still buy ad space on billboards between Tucson and Phoenix for the John Birch Society. Some things never change, and even if history doesn’t repeat itself it rhymes.
I suppose it depends on how you define your terms. If anybody who is young, has long hair and listens to rock music or any other combination of X, Y,, and Z is what your term a “hippie,” then they still exist. If they were some other combination of facts, to include a time stamp, such as “civil war soldiers,” not reinactors or buff or etc, then they don’t exist. Frame your own terms for your own purposes. Hate anybody you want.
I have a quote for richard haskell (sic): “Lighten up, Francis.” No one is hating anyone, here.
I returned to Miami University to finally complete my degree back in the early 00s, and at least one friend was definably counter-culture, if not “hippy.” No long hair, but he played guitar, liked astrology, and other cuddly concepts. Rather a pleasant fellow, even if I occasionally rolled my eyes as some of his preferences. Considering I was about the same age as his dad, that should be no surprise.
jay: Allman Brothers (who STILL rule!), Phish, and bluegrass, you say? I can see that…
Maybe even some Simon & Garfunkel, or Indigo Girls…
Sorry Casey, but I was responsing to the implications of the original post, not yours, which said “we wouldn’t mind hippies at all..if they would stay indoors and etc.” While it does not mention the word hate, it seems to me the requirements to “not be minded,” and that may mean “liked,” or “tolorated,” are cohersively restrictive. While there are people who fit a casual discription of a sociological subgroup such as “hippies” my defination includes a time frame which yours may not. So you can have your “hippies” and I will have mine, agreed?
• Bathe
• Shave
• Not put things on their cars
• Not talk about how they’d vote
To the extent this post is about intense dislike, the above areas (if one is deficient therein) provide pretty good justification for ill feelings. Unless, Haskell, you love the stinking unkempt spewing foul air in your face as they rudely engage in self-congratulatory blather about their votes for Nader or Kucinich or whoever.
• Unclench the friggin’ tie
• Lay off the aftershave
• Only consume one damned parking space
• Have smaller cars
• Remove the damned proximity alarms from their preciouses
• Remember in a democracy you and they get votes
• Remember free speech is for all
• Stay in their gated communities
• Specifically, at the edges of town
• And, finally, helicopter parent their kids less.
• Or at least remove their pink upturned collared shirts
Any social stripe can be an irritant.
What’s with the people getting their panties in a knot? Get a sense of humour.
good points all but I think we have gotten off topic or at least lost focus. Nice #15, interesting #16 but I think we were trying to make a specific point not a joke, and #14, well “it’s good to have an opinion.” I think technically “hippie” is a sociological phenom from the late 60′s, not to be confused with later period look alikes and posers. That’s all. finis.
richard, can’t say if you’re new to Vodkapundit, but Stephen does like him some good, juicy snark.
That’s really what prompted my “lighten up” crack. (that, and seeing who picked up on the reference {g}) Heck, you even missed my reference to Indigo Girls; hardly a representative of corporate America!
Why do I have the feeling that richard is a suit? What with comments like “good points all but I think we have gotten off topic or at least lost focus.” Whiskey Tango Foxtrot?? Is this a blog or a fracking seminar?
NotAHippie:
• Unclench the friggin’ tie
• Lay off the aftershave
• Remove the damned proximity alarms from their preciouses
Dude, you so owe me for cleaning off my monitor after reading your post. Dunno about the “collared shirts” crack; most everyone wears tees these days, no? Even P.J. O’Rourke cracked a funny about that one, to the effect that if Martin Luther came back today, he’d issue 95 t-shirts, not 95 theses.
Thanks Casey, point taken. I am “new” and didn’t have a frame of reference. Rereading Stephen’s post I realize it was in present tense and that should have precluded all and everything I had to say. I apologize to one and all for “there are x, y, & z and there are x2, y2, & z2 and they are not the same nor to be confused.” I’m not a “suit,” LOL but guess I have a “way” of thinking and or speaking that may betray a cultural bias.
Holy crikies, are there still hippies? The kind that don’t bathe or shave? I know there are a few aging ones left here and there, but I didn’t think any new colonies were coming online.
You’d be surprised.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rainbow_Family
Eric Cartman was right.