Here’s where I stand with Kerry, 100%.
If we weren’t at war, I’d be this close to voting for Kerry right now.
You would? Let’s say there’s no war, but interject this one topic to your equation: Federal Judiciary Appointments.
That alone tips the scales away from Kerry, or really any Dem. candidate for the forseeable future.
Sloop New Dawn
What is the big deal?
So scientists aren’t on the gov gravy train.
The human genome project brouhaha should have settled that question.
Adult stem cells are working better than they thought and can do more than they thought.
Apparently, to democrats, the President is a real world santa claus who can grant your every wish. Got a boo-boo?, vote democrat! Someone talk mean to you? Vote Democrat! Next door neighbor got a pool and you dont? Vote Democrat!
who was that man who said ” ask not what your country can do for you, but what you can do for your country”. he was a democrat I think, what happened to democrats like that? when did the presidency become a contest to see who could give away my money to other people faster?
I feel like I just sat through an all night sitdown with Shelly ” the machine” Levine trying to sell me Rio Rancho properties. You feel sorry for the man, you empathise, you just aint buying what hes selling.
No way I would vote for this man. He’s intent on extending social programs, raising taxes in the areas where it will do the most danger, and being even more protectionist than Bush on trade policy.
About stem cell research, if they want stem cells, couldn;t they start a prrogram to collect cord blood that new parents don’t want to store? or are those stem cells different than embryonic cells?
Wouldn’t it be easier to pursue these miracle cures if we don’t demonize the drug companies and try to put them out of business?
I’m surprised to see Vodkapundit fall for the ‘Bush is against stem cell research’ lie. Bush has only said the fed govt shouldn’t be financing the use of embryonic stem cells, and this is not a bad position to take because embryonic stem cells are not – as the press would you have us believe – the BEST stem cells. In truth, due to their purity they are too ‘malleable’ and prone to mutation. People are walking now, who could not walk before, by using stem cells from NASAL CAVITIES and umbilical cords. We don’t need the embryonic cells, and I am suspicious of the strange insistance by some that we do. Vodkapundit, please don’t fall for it. YOu’re too smart for that.
Embryonic Stem Cell research is a pipe dream, the DNA from you’re body won’t match that of the implanted stem cells and therefore you’re immune system will attack it, rending it useless. Now adult stem cells have more potential because their DNA matches you’re own body
Ditto Deaconess- you do know that all Bush stopped was _federal_ _funding_ of stem cell research, right? People who use their own money are free to do whatever they want to stem cells.
Stephen, I fear your buzz is impairing your judgment on this one
IMHO, if Stem-cell research was so promising, the government wouldn’t need to bankroll it – the drug companies would.
rosignol is right. You’re falling for a lie, or, rather, a Moore — truth taken out of context to produce a false statement. Maybe that’s a good new verb: Kerry was mooreing about it.
Stem cell research of all kinds is legal. _Embryonic_ stem cell research is legal. Nothing is stopping anybody from doing stem cell research, despite the lying bastards.
The Federal government won’t fund research using _embryonic_ stem cells. This has already caused some diversions, and whaddaya know, there are non-embryonic sources of stem cells that may very well work better. Had the FedGov been funding the research, it would have all gone to the easy grants, and none of the other stuff would have turned up. Not out of vileness, but just from simple bureaucracy. Bush didn’t fund a cabinet-level Department of Embryonic Stem Cell Research with a thousand GS13s and all their proportionate flunkies staffing it. Boo hoo.
If that’s really your make-or-break we should start calling you Andrew.
If they had run Lieberman or Gephart the choice would be easy. Instead they run a war criminal and have a religious figure on the podium who gave character witness for a terrorist.
That sure inspires confidence.
Wouldn’t it be nice if the drug companies weren’t in bed with the government on the drug war.
Pot at pennies a dose could replace a significant portion of the anti-anxiety drug market that runs dollars a dose.
Bush gets my vote.
It is not because I think drug companies are honest. There is crooked shit going on and the best way to root it out is to set the crooks against each other. Which to my way of thinking would be a very good idea this year.
Except there is a war on.
Bush in a landslide.
yeah if it weren’t for the fact that a vote for kerry is a vote for nuclear annihilation of a US city and nuclear holocaust of the middle east, i might vote kerry
as it stands
W baby, W
voting rep unti dems understand that the enemy os out there not in here!
I just want an answer to one simple question. Do you support government funding stem cell research or privately funded stem cell research? I am for the latter.
If all the rich Hollywood pinheads complaining about Bush’s stand on stem cell research actually funded the research themselves, they’d probably get better results than if the govt. poured money on it.
I’m a former scientist. Embryonic stem cells are all hype, like flying cars. They’re always going to be 10 years in the future, in the meantime the gov’t scientists just want something cool and new to put on their grant applications.
They did one trial implanting embryonic stem cells in Parkinson’s patients (supposedly the easiest disease to cure with them) and they got so much WORSE that they halted the trial. You don’t see that too often.
As the above posters put it; if it were so great, private companies would be doing the research–they’re not restricted. In fact, the gov’t is only forbidden from funding NEW lines. Plenty of funded experiments on extant embryonic stem cell lines
In other words, I hope that even if we weren’t at war, this wouldn’t be the issue that pushed you to the Kerry side.
Federal funding isn’t necessary for stem cell research. If there was a lot of promise in it, private money would be swamping the labs. Waste of tax-payer dollars, federal programs are always woefully inefficient.
Exactly David. Think about the financial windfall for a company that developed the cure for Parkinson’s. If there is money to be made then companies will invest in their R&D. It is well and good to wish the eradication of such horrible diseases, but knowing the propensity of government programs to flop whilst they spend our tax money, I do not want our Government wasting any more of my money. As a result of the last portion of the previous sentence, I dislike the growth of the government under Bush, but I agree the war trumps all others and Bush will be getting my vote because of the “real” strategy the administration is taking in Iraq and the Middle East.
“…’Governmental scientific inquiry’ is a contradiction in terms.”
Said by character Quentin Daniels in Atlas Shrugged.
Fellow commenters, you’re all going about this wrong. “Embryonic stem-cell research” has about as much to do with the needs of stem-cell science as “medical marijuana” has to do with painkillers.
Nothing. Zero. Zip. It’s all propaganda – and the advocates know it.
The med-marijuana folks wanna get high. Nothing wrong with that; I’m a libertarian and an erstwhile st0ner myself. But the people who are most vocally for the medical h3rb aren’t the sick ones.
You’re right, Steve here has been watching the embryonic stem-cell fracas too long not to know that adult SCs can do everything that embryonic SC can do; and he also knows full well that Bush is allowing research on existing SC lines. All this talk of “stem-cell research” is a smoke-screen. He’s pulling the wool over your eyes, boyos.
Embryonic stem-cell research is about the moral legitimacy to abortion. Nothing else.
Potheads don’t want to say “I wanna get high” so they tell you it’s about medical science. Likewise, abortion fans don’t want to say “I don’t think the unborn count as human life”.
Personally, I’d respect the sides a lot more if they’d quit flim-flamming us.
Well put, David.
I wouldn’t vote for Kerry if he told me he could solve every disease on planet Earth.
He will be the ruin of this country. If I want to be run by France, let’s elect Chirac as President. It is just as bad.
Who cares about stem cells, you can’t even SEE them. The issue facing mankind is GAY MARRIAGE. As a homo, what good does it do me to survive murderous jihadi psychopaths if I can’t enjoy the same tax shelters available to you hets??