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Stephen Kruiser

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August 30, 2013 - 7:07 pm

How I wish I were kidding.

I don’t believe that all sexual conduct between underage students and teachers should necessarily be classified as rape, and I believe that absent extenuating circumstances, consensual sexual activity between teachers and students should not be criminalized.

Oh, but the teacher should lose his or her job, per the author. One little thing, teachers don’t lose their jobs over much but there’s a better shot of that happening if what they are being punished for is criminal.

This is Obama’s America. The First Amendment gets us almost zero press freedom when it comes to questioning the president but this kind of unmitigated lunacy gets past editors.

Kill the media.

Stephen Kruiser is a professional comedian and writer who has also been a conservative political activist for over two decades. A co-founder of the first Los Angeles Tea Party, Kruiser often speaks to grassroots groups around America and has had the great honor of traveling around the world entertaining U.S. troops.

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I just finished reading this in the paper and eagerly look forward to the reactions. In the past year, the Post has printed an amazing number of local stories about DC, MD and VA teachers caught molesting students or downloading kiddie porn. I think it's time to ask the NEA and the Dept. of Education why the teaching profession is so riddled with filthy predators. And what measures are being taken to eliminate them.
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Does anyone wonder why our national educational test scores are in rapid decline and functional illiteracy grows? It isn't just the sex act between teachers and pupils that is destructive, it's the atmosphere in the classroom that creates terrible anxiety in the students. At 15 one of my teachers tried to turn our relationship sexual. I resisted and he didn't push it, but from then on my attention in school was shattered and my grades fell. I never told anyone because I thought it was my fault and I was ashamed. All the progressive psychological nonsense the left uses to make these relationships seem normal can't change the fact that children will always feel ashamed, something they will carry the rest of their lives.
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"WaPo: ‘Teachers And Students Should Totally Be Able To Have Sex With Each Other’"

Cool, because it's my belief that all WaPo reporters should be tied up, and buggered by gangs of feral Kangaroos.

Fair's fair, now.
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Well of course they should be able to have sex, why not in front of the class? A modern, progressive version of show and tell. Then everyone can take pictures with their smart phones and post the videos on facebook, what could possibly go wrong? How many times counts as extra credit for class participation? If there are unwanted pregnancies, does the entire class go to the planned parenthood appointment? /sarc off

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I now why it's called the Washington Pukes.
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They do have a point in the case where the student is above the age of consent. We can't seem to make up our minds about when a person is an adult with 16 considered adult enough for consensual sex and to get a drivers license in many states, but 18 required to buy tobacco or vote and 21 to buy alcohol. Maybe older teenagers should be held to adult standards of behavior like they were for most of human history. Clearly the teacher should be fired, but I don't agree with special case criminal prosecution of teachers for behavior that would be legal for the same people under different conditions.
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Teachers have specific authority over students that others don't, so its not the "same" conditions.
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Maybe the age should be raised to 21 for everything - including (perhaps especially) the right to vote.
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I dealt with a couple of cases of teachers having sex with students, a couple of cases of social workers, a couple of cases of probation officers, and a lot of cases of cops and correctional officers having sex with arrestees or inmates. A couple of observations: In over twenty years of dealing with these issues I never had but two men fight the dismissal all the way to arbitration and only one to court and I never had but one woman not fight it all the way. I don't think I ever lost a case involving a male employee, and that, unfortunately, includes a couple where I'm not totally sure the guy was guilty. I lost several involving female employees including two separate instances with one female probation officer.

Even usually jaded labor arbitrators are likely to give credibility to even fanciful stories told by a woman and co-workers are much more likely defend a woman. Unless it involved quid pro quo coercion or force we didn't prosecute except with cops if the act took place on duty. We universally fired employees if the act took place with someone over whom they had coercive or custodial authority. Men would almost always take the "German Choice." We'd hand them a memo stating they were resigning for personal reasons and all they had to do was sign it and they could tell their wife and friends whatever they wanted about why they left the job. Few requiired much persuasion. One probation officer still haunts my memory a bit because he fought it all the way to court and lost, in the process destroying his life. I'm not sure he actually did have sex with the probationer as she claimed but he went way over the line in having contact with her and having a relationship with her that would allow you to easily believe he had more than a professional relationship with her. I talked to the arbitrator about that one some time later and he too had doubts but, like me, concluded that you could believe the woman and that was going too far for a law enforcement officer.

Women would fight tooth and nail. I can't recall one ever denying it when confronted but almost all sought to justify it. Especially with those who had a relationship with an inmate, once she decided to do it, that was her man and she was going to defend her actions to the bitter end.

Our Legislature passed a law in the '90s criminalizing sex with someone over whom you had coercive authority. It was specifically aimed at teachers and precipitated by a very scandalous affair between a HS student and a rather well known teacher and newspaper columnist. I don't know how it has worked out for schools because the State employed very few teachers. You do hear of the ocassional case in the school districts. It actuallly caused us problems especially with the cops and COs. Before the law, you could count on somebody ratting out anybody who was getting sex in jail or with arrestees. Once it became a crime with some fairly serious time attached, people became much less willing to rat off their coworker and even inmates became less willing to rat off COs. We had markedly fewer cases coming out of the prisons after the law and I don't think it was because our employees were behaving any better. Anyway, this is already too long, but I can tell some stories about the creative ways that people came up with to cost them their jobs and wreck their lives.
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Soon some Libertarian will be writing an article supporting the Post's position on abolishing the age of consent. The argument will go like this.

"Government interference in the bedroom creates a situation where people of different ages are forced into criminal activity because the nanny state won't let them alone. These are victimless crimes the force adult-child sex underground. By abolishing the age of consent adults will not have to seduce random children who may or may not want to explore their sexuality with an adult. If we were to legalize these relationships there would be no cases of adults raping children since they would have the opportunity to find willing partners."

If you think I am trolling, think again. Libertarians will be the ones who push legalized pedophilia over the top the way they have with gay marriage and legalized drugs.
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As usual, the weak minded among us conflate the concept of liberty with license.

The never ending attack on the very fabric of this nation's strength comes not from people who love liberty in the American context, it comes from the tools among us who act as proxy for of the tyrant who wishes us to fall. It comes from the moral relativists, the libertines, and the self loathing creatures of todays progressive left.

And yes, you really are a troll.
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And you Sir, and those who liked you are idiots because you think I was making the argument. You fools are going to see this argument made by some Libertarian stooge. Not this week, not next month but like with gay marriage soon enough.
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We have a male teacher from my kid's high school in jail awaiting trial for a "relationship" with a then 15 year old boy. He's been in jail since May & the trial is in February, so he'll already do more time that this guy! My daughter was very close with this teacher. I tried to explain to her why what he did was wrong. She won't hear it. The teacher was 23 or so when it happened and my daughter sees it as no big deal. Of course, at 15 she thinks she is totally able to consent. The good news is she angrily told me that she's not having sex until she's at least 18 because then no one can get in trouble. That will show me!
50 weeks ago
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I just finished reading this in the paper and eagerly look forward to the reactions. In the past year, the Post has printed an amazing number of local stories about DC, MD and VA teachers caught molesting students or downloading kiddie porn. I think it's time to ask the NEA and the Dept. of Education why the teaching profession is so riddled with filthy predators. And what measures are being taken to eliminate them.
50 weeks ago
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More outrageous blather to generate website traffic. The WaPo must be taking advice from Slate.
Oh wait, WaPo owns Slate. there you go.
50 weeks ago
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Does anyone wonder why our national educational test scores are in rapid decline and functional illiteracy grows? It isn't just the sex act between teachers and pupils that is destructive, it's the atmosphere in the classroom that creates terrible anxiety in the students. At 15 one of my teachers tried to turn our relationship sexual. I resisted and he didn't push it, but from then on my attention in school was shattered and my grades fell. I never told anyone because I thought it was my fault and I was ashamed. All the progressive psychological nonsense the left uses to make these relationships seem normal can't change the fact that children will always feel ashamed, something they will carry the rest of their lives.
50 weeks ago
50 weeks ago Link To Comment
"WaPo: ‘Teachers And Students Should Totally Be Able To Have Sex With Each Other’"

Cool, because it's my belief that all WaPo reporters should be tied up, and buggered by gangs of feral Kangaroos.

Fair's fair, now.
50 weeks ago
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