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Bryan Preston

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June 26, 2013 - 1:37 pm

Well isn’t our king benevolent?

President Obama, in his statement hailing the Supreme Court’s decision to overturn the Defense of Marriage Act, promised that he wouldn’t try to force religious institutions to conduct gay marriages.

“On an issue as sensitive as this, knowing that Americans hold a wide range of views based on deeply held beliefs, maintaining our nation’s commitment to religious freedom is also vital,” Obama said. “How religious institutions define and consecrate marriage has always been up to those institutions.  Nothing about this decision — which applies only to civil marriages — changes that.”

Here’s guessing that the Roman Catholics and other religious groups that are in the midst of fighting the contraception mandate are skeptical of that pledge.

Indeed.

The reality is, and Obama knows, he won’t have to publicly move to force churches into anything. Our litigious society guarantees that someone will sue to force churches into gay marriage, and our activist judiciary guarantees that they will get the outcome they desire somewhere. It’s going to happen. And Obama and/or his allies will be supporting the lawsuits when they come, tweeting that they’re accomplishing “something special.”

And another thing: This will be used to further divide the church. Some churches won’t have any problem with marrying gays, or they’ll recognize the financial windfall, and go along with it. Some already do, in fact. It’s the traditional churches who will oppose it and therefore will be targeted for destruction.

Bryan Preston has been a leading conservative blogger and opinionator since founding his first blog in 2001. Bryan is a military veteran, worked for NASA, was a founding blogger and producer at Hot Air, was producer of the Laura Ingraham Show and, most recently before joining PJM, was Communications Director of the Republican Party of Texas.

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Hey, if you want to force a crisis, start pushing for gay marriage in Mosques.
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Those churches that still believe in the good news of Jesus Christ are now in a fight for their life whether they know it or not. There are times coming now that none of us would have believed even 10 years ago.
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Every time Obama publicly states that he won't do something, we have seen that it was a complete lie. In due time he does exactly what he said he won't. Every time.
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I had no idea that when Obama said that he wanted to 'fundamentally transform' America that he actually meant it.
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I knew he meant exactly what he said in 2008. Did you vote for him? I didn't, either time.
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Maybe this will be the issue that motivates people to support a constitutional convention (10th amendment).
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"This will be used to further divide the church. Some churches won’t have any problem with marrying gays. It’s the traditional churches who will oppose it and therefore will be targeted for destruction."

Absolutely. Divide and conquer.
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"Some churches won’t have any problem with marrying gays, or they’ll recognize the financial windfall, and go along with it."

Except there won't be any windfall. Pin them down and most gays will tell you they could care less about marriage. And let's not forget that it isn't the "Father Knows Best" generation that will be getting married; it will be the "MTV" generation that will be. They have been properly educated to not value marriage.
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Maybe in this case he won't try to force churches. Because he would be forcing his Muslim brothers as well? Oh - then again - what a great reason for Barry to support an independent sharia system. That way the Muslims get to have their marriage definition untouched by infidels while christian churches get the boot on the neck treatment. Should be interesting to watch this crap play out...
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Hey, if you want to force a crisis, start pushing for gay marriage in Mosques.
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Perhaps the traditional churches should begin looking into how the original churches conducted their activities in secret and begin laying plans accordingly? After all, their activities in that day and age were subject to extreme persecution up to and including death.

Yes, this would also mean giving up all government interaction, including things like the tax exempt status. If you are not taking the government coin, the government is far more limited in what strings they can attach.

Go to the courthouse, get the paper that says you are legally bound to each other, but the real wedding ceremony becomes something performed in secret.

Either that, or publicly "co-habitat" while at the same time having a private and secret wedding ceremony performed that, in the eyes of family and friends, seals the wedding as legitimate.

Turn our collective noses up at the government and consider that entity irrelevant as to whether we consider someone "married" or not. It's not like the government is bending over backwards to buttress support for it's continued legitimacy anyway.

Who knows, this may be the beginning of the end for that leviathan as its perceived authority is dismissed in so many ways that it can't possibly counter all of the repudiation the general population throws at it. The corrosiveness of the relationship between people and government will eventually cause that government to fail as a government cannot indefinitely rule without the will of the people.

Services which used to be held in the light of a Sunday morning - take them underground.

Might want to get used to conducting all of our affairs in that manner anyway just so we're practiced for when it REALLY gets bad....
1 year ago
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So, live underground like Christians in ancient Rome (or comtemporary North Korea)? Interesting idea....
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Being tax exempt does not equate to "taking the government coin." That's leftist logic.
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No, it's not "leftist logic". Is a fact.

When churches allow themselves to be regulated in any way then they give up some measure of control over their own affairs and have to abide by the rules the government dictates.

For instance. ... want to keep your tax exempt status as a church - ya better not get caught preaching from the pulpit about politics then.

(be advised, however, that this particular rule does not apply if your church has a history of supporting Democrat candidates.)
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Sigh. Leaving them tax-exempt means the government can't use taxes and tax policy to dictate what they do. (Maryland has gotten around that with its new "rain tax.") You're arguing that they are wrong to remain tax-exempt and should therefore pay taxes. That makes no sense at all. Government will then use tax policy to coerce them - save tax money if you do this for us, pay more in taxes if you do something government doesn't like. There's no way of getting around that. Churches are tax-exempt as an expression of the fact that the state does not control the church and cannot compel it. Statists who have a problem with that are the ones who want churches to pay taxes. Hence, leftist logic.
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Hmmm, so why were both of my last two comments "reported"?
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How is regulating that churches cannot speak of certain subjects from the pulpit not regulating them already? As for taxing a church, as long as no profit is made there is nothing to tax.

Of course, if a church were really to go under the radar, meet in secret, conduct services in secret, etc., the government would be hard pressed to regulate them in any manner at all and if the preacher were to promulgate conservative political views there is realistically nothing the government can do to stop him under those circumstances.
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Those churches that still believe in the good news of Jesus Christ are now in a fight for their life whether they know it or not. There are times coming now that none of us would have believed even 10 years ago.
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Oh, we know it. My pastor preaches on this often. He fully expects to wind up in jail. I suspect a lot of his congregation will, as well.
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I should have added in Orthodox Jewish congregations as well. My bet is that as long as Obama is president Muslims will be exempt.
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You got THAT right!
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" It’s the traditional churches who will oppose it and therefore will be targeted for destruction."

Nice tax exemption you have there. Be a real shame if something was to happen to it.
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Last I heard, the traditional churches, like the Episcopal and many other modernist protestant churches - lots of presbyterians, methodists, luthersans etc, are not particularly worried about it, or even support the marriage of homosexual couples.
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Every time Obama publicly states that he won't do something, we have seen that it was a complete lie. In due time he does exactly what he said he won't. Every time.
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Didn't he promise that ObamaCare wouldn't be used to make churches do anything against church beliefs? Then he forced Catholic health organizations to provide contraception and abortions....
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I think that he TRIED to force that on Catholic organizations. It hasn't happened yet and won't.
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You got that right!.
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