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June 7, 2013 - 10:45 am
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President Obama gave a rambling defense of NSA spying on Americans at what was supposed to be an ObamaCare event today, telling reporters “it’s important to recognize that you can’t have 100 percent security and also then have 100 percent privacy and zero inconvenience.”

Speaking at the Fairmont Hotel in San Jose, Calif., Obama lauded Spanish-media promotion of ObamaCare in the state and told Republicans in the House to stop voting to repeal the law “and start working with people like the leaders who are on stage here today to make this law work the way it’s supposed to.”

After a lengthy defense of ObamaCare, Obama opened the floor for “one question” — and was asked for his reaction on reports of broad surveillance of Americans’ phones and Internet.

“The programs that have been discussed over the last couple of days in the press are secret in the sense that they’re classified, but they’re not secret in the sense that, when it comes to telephone calls, every member of Congress has been briefed on this program,” the president said.

Only congressional leadership and the intelligence committees, though, are traditionally briefed on sensitive intelligence matters.

“With respect to all these programs, the relevant intelligence committees are fully briefed on these programs. These are programs that have been authorized by broad bipartisan majorities repeatedly since 2006,” Obama continued. “And so I think at the outset it’s important to understand that your duly-elected representatives have been consistently informed on exactly what we’re doing.”

Trying to break down the separate issues, the president said “when it comes to telephone calls, nobody is listening to your telephone calls.”

“That’s not what this program’s about. As was indicated, what the intelligence community is doing is looking at phone numbers and durations of calls. They are not looking at people’s names, and they’re not looking at content. But by sifting through this so-called metadata, they may identify potential leads with respect to folks who might engage in terrorism,” he said. “…So I want to be very clear: Some of the hype that we’ve been hearing over the last day or so, nobody’s listening to the content of people’s phone calls.”

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How ironic it is that all of Obama's personal information is sealed but when it comes to someone else's privacy its no big deal.
45 weeks ago
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"Obama called the debate over privacy concerns versus security measures “a sign of maturity, because probably five years ago, six years ago, we might not have been having this debate.”"

Really, Mr. President? Because I recall having this exact debate five or six years ago. I also remember you being on the other side of it. So, what does it all boil down to? George Bush couldn't be trusted but you can??
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“it’s important to recognize that you can’t have 100 percent security and also then have 100 percent privacy and zero inconvenience.”

Its more important to recognize that under the 4th Amendment you can't search my stuff without probable cause. If you think I've done something, get a warrant. Until then, bite me.

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Now who wouldn't take Obama at his word? Really?
Typical of this truly nasty, little man, he gets testy, he does !! No surprise, it's typical of these barely civilized leftists.
45 weeks ago
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"nobody is listening to your telephone calls or reading your emails".

But if you choose to run for office against a Democrat or provide major support for someone who is running against one, well then . . .

I am still waiting to hear how Harry Reid got information on 10 years of Romney's tax returns. (Which turned out to be all proper and legal by the way - so it was a double sleaze by the Democrats, i.e. misappropriate personal information and then lie about its contents when what is in there doesn't serve your purpose)
45 weeks ago
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Just think, there are some who don't mind Obama's camel nose under the tent.
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>>> With the snooping on Internet accounts and email, Obama said, “this does not apply to U.S. citizens and it does not apply to people living in the United States.” <<<

Another BIG WHOPPER! This same lie your NSA Director testified under oath that no snooping on Americans or Citizens in the US happened?

>>> “We’re also setting up — we’ve also set up an audit process when I came into office to make sure that we’re, after the fact, making absolutely certain that all the safeguards are being properly observed.” <<<

This and your claim of not knowing our phone conversations, mr. president, you don't have any credibility left.
45 weeks ago
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"nobody is listening in on your phone calls"...

a lie..

PRISM does exactly that.. of course they'd never listen to mine, I'm just another opposition voter.. but would his "team" do it to Romney?.. Boehner?.. Rand Paul?

To believe they never would, requires you not only forget all his hyperbole and threats, but that the IRS never confessed to targeting his enemies.. he asks for trust, when there is absolutely none for the Chicago corrupticrat in chief.
45 weeks ago
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"nobody is listening in on your phone calls"...

a lie..

I'm patiently awaiting your factual proof since you made that an issue down below.
45 weeks ago
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Go away troll
45 weeks ago
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Wow! What a constitutional patriot you are! You must be one of them tea party folks who believes the constitutional rights only applies to them.
45 weeks ago
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Maybe to satisfy all the extremist conservatives the U.S. should revert back to pre-9/11 and let those who wish to do us harm have a permenant red carpet rolled out for them. The only rule we'd submit to our enemies is that they confine their activities to only the socalled Red States. Problem solved and everybody happy!
45 weeks ago
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The Muslim Brotherhood has been given power in Obama's regime, he's sleeping with the enemy and you cheer him on, traitor.
45 weeks ago
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Your comment is pure nonsense from a presumed adult!
45 weeks ago
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C'mon DK, just because Zeke likes the idea of a totalitarian police state doesn't mean he's a traitor, it just means he's stupid.
45 weeks ago
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And your totalitarian theocratic state would be your dream for the U.S. You do realized don't you that you and those like you in your movement, wouldn't makea minute blip on a radar screen. Stand on any busy street corner in your community neighborhood and scream out all your commments on PJM to the people in your community and see what they have to think about you and your comments. Radicalized minds are such a human waste!
45 weeks ago
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Maybe to satisfy the idiot left, we should just leave our borders open to whomever wants to come in, give them lots of government services for free and hold their hands as they whine hysterically when they discover.. Al Qaeda hates them just as much, dispite their so called enlightenment.

Nice of you to wish terrorism on the red states douche..

and after the only response we had about Boston were prayers and sympathy. And no chuckles.. you and your kind whined far louder when Bush did things far less invasive, but keep on believing in a fictional trust worthy Obama, if that lie helps you cope with the fascist in chief.
45 weeks ago
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I have no real interest in what the left thinks or does Mr. What I do care about is my country and concern for the generations of today that have become nothing more than blamers and complainers void of anything rational in their dialog. Extremist, no matter what political ideology they represent, are never a benefit for any nation much less America.

Now, do you have any thing rational to add other than a skill of name calling and complaining and blaming?
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and of course after singing the praises of anti-extremism.. you offer no rational for why the position stated here is extreme..

but you sure waged your own little mindless rant about how stupid and crazed the younger generations are... I'd call a blanket condemnation of today's youth pretty extreme.. I also utterly reject your simple minded ploy of playing the concern troll..

Nobody believes you aren't far left..

You expose that by screaming at us from the start, no civil attempt to engage in a dialog, or to share why we should feel differently, you went straight to the insult like a devoted kos-monut.

Try this,... You just hoped that the Islamic terrorists would strike ONLY red states..

THAT isn't extreme?.. no decent human being would do that, but a dedicated leftist would and often does.. For all your pompous arrogance, you still have not offered any argument, just insults..

the only logical conclusion, is you're not very bright.
45 weeks ago
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You must be a newbie around here! You certainly have not followed my commenting on here or you'd know just how ignorant you are of what my commenting has been over a long time on here. To call people who happen to be registered democrats "idiots" you might not be so bright either. There are a large majority of democrats who are every bit as decent human beings and Americans as you will claim you are. Likewise, there are a large majority of republicans who are decent human beings and Americans. Never in my 80 years have I witnessed America being torn apart and divided by self serving, politicized extremist radicals as today -- not even in the days of the Vietnam anti war and anti government movements. If you think todays generations of which you're a part of, have contributed to making America and the world a better place then you are blind to reality and the world around you.

On the other hand, I 'have' witnessed with each generation the very same old complaints and blaming by a small segement of the people. Not even their verbage changes -- in fact its remains nearly verbatim generation to generation by the extremists of all political parties.

As for my comments you went to the trouble to highlight. If you've followed the literally hundreds if not thousands of topics and comment posted here on PJM over the years, and attempted to put those comments in context of those topics and commenting they would have made sense to any rational person. In other words, the overwhelming majority of rational Americans have NO problems with the government implementing national security policies and methods to protect the soveriegnty of the U.S. by virtually any means. From 2000 until 2009 it was the radical democrats singing the same songs of dissent. From 2009 mto present with another political party in the White House its now the radicals of the tea party movement singing the same songs of dissent -- a movement largely residing in the socalled Red States. If they don't want or like the way the government protects them from an enemy then they should have no problem with being subjected to the actions of an enemy. Finally, you complain of insults. Mr. I came here a long time ago and have had my rational and well supported comments insulted by the radical pro's. Now I play by their rules and not mine -- though are a rare few genuine adults around here with common sense and gained wisdom for which I communicate in a more substantive way and we support our positions with factual data. Prove yourself to one of those and we can have a different conversation. On the otherhand, if everybody who disagrees with you is your ememy and you adopt the normal demeanor of the majority around here then.......
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Complaining...
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Zeke1
Maybe to satisfy all the extremist conservatives the U.S."

Blaming...
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Maybe to satisfy all the extremist conservatives the U.S. should revert back to pre-9/11 and let those who wish to do us harm have a permenant red carpet rolled out for them. "

name calling..
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" You should be forced to read all your moronic comments in your old age before you die. "

you were saying cupcake?

You just dumped a heaping pile of leftist hate here, treat others like dirt, spout dogma straight from the DNC and then b1tch because your widdle fweelings got hurt.

You want to be treated like a rational adult, try acting like one.

You offered nothing but frothing hatred for people far more polite than you, far more civil, then whine because I dared respond in kind.. Look child, I'm not from the elites never went to college, I was busy.. a cold war and all.. but I know my IQ and I read quite a bit, condescending to me is a fools game... and I'm not held in check by any false sense of civility to a raging dolt who can't string together a coherent argument, just dump bile. I'm working class.. you know, the working poor that democrats claim to speak for, but actually exploit like chattel slaves.

I speak as my class does.. and trust me, I could do far worse to your pathetic self image.

You disagree, then state why, in civil tones, or be treated like the intellectual cheese puff you are.
45 weeks ago
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"I have no real interest in what the left thinks or does, Mr. What I do care about is my country and concern for the generations of today that have become nothing more than blamers and complainers void of anything rational in their dialog"

Zeke, Like Obama, you believe no one will remember all the things that you have said in the past and that you can safely say whatever is convenient and manipulative for the moment.

For Mark Edwards benefit, even though Zeke says that "I have no real interest in the left" he constantly trolls at PJM, sprinkling the comments with extreme leftist tripe - probably in a paid attempt to dull the social media multiplier affect of the good work that is done here.

In Zeke's world, big government is all we need - especially with tax and spend, freedom sapping, elitist scoundrels driven by sophomoric ideologies at the helm of every branch and every department, with their adoring public service union minions in tow. And why not, they gave him this great job snooping at PJM.
45 weeks ago
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Scroll past him. He makes reading the comments unbearable because he goes on and on, insulting anyone who responds to his hate America blather.
45 weeks ago
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I've seen his kind before, all too often..

He has a skin as thin as Obama's, yet starts insulting everyone from the first sentence. You'd think a fragile little peach like him would avoid throwing stones, since return fire is almost a certainty.
45 weeks ago
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Pretty bold talk from one who is hiding in a bunker far away from the combat theater!
45 weeks ago
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Well, once again you just flushed your credibility down the toilet. You should be forced to read all your moronic comments in your old age before you die. Then you might have some understanding of what an extremist is and that you wasted your time being one and helping divide a nation of people with all your nonsense.
45 weeks ago
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Someone has to call you on your BS Zeke even if it means suffering the inevitable personal and mean spirited counter-attacks that never ever attempt to address the issues being discussed,

How about offering some logic or facts or maybe even a begrudging acknowledgment that a large percentage of Americans feel the way we do her at PJM about intrusive big government and the erosion of our rights and freedoms under this current regime.
45 weeks ago
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You ignore reality!

"...a large percentage of Americans feel the way we do..."

Don't you even attempt to follow polling and read articles by those who use to be agressive supporters of the original Tea Party movment? As of march 2013 only 2-7% of republicans and indpendents claim to be affiliated with the tea party movement anymore. Likewise, having previously published this data with the appropriate links to the most reliable polling sources favorable to the GOP and the tea party, the national favorability of the tea party has decline to that of the congress.

If you'd followed my commenting a long time ago you would know that I fully support a smaller more efficient government and a far more responsible spending goverment. A government that would re-evaluate its post WWII geopolitical strategies of nation building and military intervention when our or our 'principle' allies sovereignity was not directly being threatened. I've long been for a government that weaned the states and their local communities off of ALL federal subsidies. I've long been a strong advocate for banning private sector special interest groups and their lobbyists from open door access to the government and in fact writing much of the legislation favorable to them. I've long advocated that NO OUTSIDE official party candidates be allowed to run on either the GOP, the Democrat or Independent tickets rather than their own official parties. The socialists/progressives/communists run on the democrat party ticket. The anarchist/libertarian run on the GOP ticket. The Tea Party Religious Right/Moral Majority should likewise form their own official party to run from. The list goes on!

However, what I will not support is irrational radicalism from within any political party by groups that should run from their own political parties with their own political ideologies. All the attacks on people who are registered democrats and mainstream traditional repbulicans in our communities of the Republic is vile and unreasonable nonsense. If you think I'm wrong try copying all the comments from here on PJM and broadcast them verbatim through a good PA system on the corners of your local communities daily, over and over and see what the majority of the community -- your friends, work cohorts, your fellow church members and neighbors thinks. I'm betting you wouldn't think of doing such a thing in person, face-to-face with them!
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A pox upon EVERYONE who re elected this anti American, left wing dirt bag!!!
Can't remember which founding father it was who said, "Those who would give up privacy in order to have more security deserve neither liberty nor security". That is what we have here. We could have a lot MORE privacy as AMERICAN CITIZENS if our idiotic government leaders could develop some guts AND common sense and restrict the tight surveillance almost entirely to people MOST LIKELY to BE terrorists or spies for enemy countries. But, oh, NO, that would be "Racial profiling" and "discrimination", so they have to destroy all privacy rights and Constitutional restrictions on illegal searches and seizures ONLY of people who are NOT Arabic or illegal aliens,or so it seems, just exactly the same way they "screen" flyers at airports.
45 weeks ago
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Benjamin Franklin.
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It's easy to call privacy encroachments "modest" when nobody encroaching on his.
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" “…So I want to be very clear: Some of the hype that we’ve been hearing over the last day or so, nobody’s listening to the content of people’s phone calls.”

And we're supposed to trust what you say because? Like we've never had a reason to distrust what you say before?
45 weeks ago
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Thank you, Mr. Transparent.
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