The international hacktivist group Anonymous today warned of “insurrection in America” as the government controls and twists the narrative on gun-related incidents.
Known for the Guy Fawkes masks worn at protests, Anonymous has styled itself as an anti-authority crusader against government corruption and lack of transparency, and supported the Occupy protests. And now the hackers are stepping into the gun control debate, warning in a lengthy message today that “throughout history authoritarian governments have used gun violence as an excuse to take peoples firearms and control there population.”
“Obama has been working hard to try and ban semi-automatic weapons and shotguns while at the same time increasing the weapons and firepower that police and government agencies have. Within minutes of the Connecticut shooting, politicians were on the state run media saying it was time to get rid of the guns and they will be talking about it for weeks to come,” Anonymous wrote on its blog. “The Obama administration and his government funded media have been promoting this idea for months. Everytime there is a shooting performed by a crazy person the media talks about it non-stop for weeks or months. But when there is an illegal or unlawful shooting by police that does not fit Obama’s agenda the story is barely mentioned.”
Anonymous notes that not only do police shootings barely get any attention, but cases where slaying are committed without guns or where guns are used to save lives also fly under the radar.
“Mr. Obama the 2nd amendment of the US Constitution does not talk about an army, that is covered elsewhere in the constitution. It does talk about a well regulated militia which is made of civilians with their own weapons. The second amendment of the US Constitution does not talk about protecting government or government resources, but it does talk about being necessary for the security of a free state. The second amendment of the US constitution does not say a single word about hunting or sport. But it does say ‘The peoples right to keep and bear arms shall not be infringed’.”
“To the American people, as many laws have been banning firearms in cities such as Chicago, New York, and Washington D.C have been implemented and as the courts get them, they are now being overthrown as being unconstitutional. Even if they were not ruled on, they are an infringement to your second amendment rights and you have no obligation to obey it and the courts have no obligation to enforce it.”
In a section directly addressing Obama, Anonymous warns there will be “no further tolerance” of any act to infringe on the Constitution, confiscate weapons or control gun ownership, or enter into any treaty that would do the same.
“Any action taken by you to attempt to perform those acts or similar acts as interpreted by the American people or any attempt by you to skirt your responsibility to the true office of the presidency will be viewed by many people as your willfull act of insurrection and treason,” Anonymous continues. The group then goes on to detail how Obama could be removed, by military force if necessary.
One wonders how Anonymous might use its hacking skills that have perpetually confounded the government and big business to step in on the side of gun-rights proponents.
Well damn.
Being agreeable with someone that supported the Occupy movement is not something I would have predicted for myself.
This ought to be interesting….
You and me both. I got no solidarity with the Occupy varmints but Anonymous just got my attention.
When something looks too good to be true, maybe it is. This:
“The Obama administration and his government funded media have been promoting this idea for months. Everytime there is a shooting performed by a crazy person the media talks about it non-stop for weeks or months. But when there is an illegal or unlawful shooting by police that does not fit Obama’s agenda the story is barely mentioned.”
…does not sound like Anonymous to me, but someone on our side posing as Anonymous. Corporate funded media I could easily imagine them complaining about, but government funded? Really?
So it’s news to you that corporate and Government
are the same? Where have you been the last 6 decades.
I was taught in Econ 101 back in 1973 that to guarantee
profits you need to legislate them. That was going
on long before I took that course.
Total separation of business and state is a must
to restore any hope of a middle class.
And the corrupt GOP elie will never go for that kind of reform.
So it’s news to you that corporate and Government
are the same? Where have you been the last 6 decades.
Ohferchrissakes. Over the past 6 decades, the Media has slowly, inexorably become the mouthpiece of the Democratic Party. Another legacy of FDR. Meanwhile, the Left and the fringe Right (including yourself in one of those, presumably) have obsessed over “corporate ownership”, as if the media were ever independent of business concerns – they’re ALL businesses, you realize, even The Nation and Mother Jones.
By their actions, it is quite apparent that Anonymous couldn’t care less about Leftist influence in the Media, only “right-wing Fascist corporate control”… but only in America and certain European countries. Russia (very “right-wing”, almost monarchist these days – Czar Vlad the Poisoner) and China (old-school Italian Fascist rather than Maoist anymore) seem to hold no interest for them.
Actually, they’re are likely scared shitless about what Moscow or Beijing might to to them if they meddled there…
You were “taught in Econ 101″, and have never figured out you were fed Marxist propaganda all those years ago?
Gary- it’s not just the GOP that is corrupt. The liberals are in bed with big business to at least the same extent. Neither side is your ally. Wake up.
“Gary Ogletree
And the corrupt GOP elie will never go for that kind of reform.”
Gop [elite] hell. Go look at free republic – the supposed bastion of conservatism. Even those people believe corporations are literally people and as such have the right to buy politicians.
I have been following the actions of anonymous for some time now through MANY news articles. I suspect that many people are falling for a misconception that anonymous is a singular dedicated group of hackers. It is not. It is a codeword for ANYONE who wishes to oppose some goverment action but stay “anonymous.” At least that is my understanding of what I have read in article after article. They are not limited to just hacking, although their roots may have started with a small collective in the hacking community.
With an ever-growing intrusive state and federal government collecting data on all of us, purchasing assualt vehicles and weapons, millions of rounds of ammunition, we the citizens are already outmatched and can no longer defend ourselves should our government become overly tyrannical. There is no medium which we can use to organize without it being known and squashed immediately. Remember Napolitano’s “domestic terrorist” descriptions? It pretty much covers all of us.
Someday you may find yourself being anonymous.
I agree David. We’re already there…
This guys and ladies are pretty spot on — have listened to alot and for the most part are spot on — listen to some of it on youtube
anonymous isn’t a group of “set” members it’s an idea, the people supporting the occupy movement don’t speak for all of anonymous nor do the people or person who made this video. no one knows if a single person founded this organization, it just took off. the original members may or may not still even be involved hence the name so ANYONE and EVERYONE can be anonymous
Well, it could be that you don’t have to agree or disagree with everything a group or political body does. That’s part of using your own reasoning skills having a mind of your own. I see it even on PJMedia. People who need to know who said what, not what was said. I really don’t have time for group identity politics.
Who said it matters a great deal, especially if they are lying.
Anonymous isn’t a single person or ideal. It is a very large and very amorphous group composed of PC-savy folks whose only real unifying concept is the freedom of information. The political veiw point of the movement runs all the way from KKK members to Occupy with detours into Al Qaeda, the Tea Party, the Catholic priesthood, and eco-terrorists.
Even anarchists recognize when a dictator, ooops, sorry, President, overreaches.
Anarchism is very popular on both the Left and Right. See http://clarespark.com/2012/08/16/marx-rivals-and-our-enigmatic-president/. After I wrote this historical piece, I was besieged by searchers for “rage against the machine.” Such angst in the machine age may be more important than working class radicalism, which seems to have almost entirely dissipated.
Yet still they hide behind masks. Pussies.
This.
Well, they are proponents of the more “direct action” approach. If you’re going to violate various laws and incur the wrath of the state to achieve your goals you’d have to be retarded not to wear a mask, whether a digital one like an IP address blocking scheme when hacking a website or a physical one when demonstrating. Most of these people are pretty savvy when it comes to technology and what our government is up to. They know that facial recognition technologies have gotten scarily good and our government has been making lists and not really bothering to check them twice. In other words, if you show up at an anti-government protest without a mask you’d better expect to have your picture taken, identity determined by recognition software, and your name added to some secretive list of potential subversives. It’s also true that if in a protest everyone is wearing non-descriptive clothing and similar masks it is much harder for police to pick out “leaders” for detainment or harassment. There can be an argument made for being unafraid to reveal your true identity, but part of the beauty of the internet and the reason it’s served as such a great forum for free speech is that is allows anonymity which encourages people to speak their minds, especially those who are in positions where they could reasonably fear reprisal should their identities become common knowledge. Websites that seek to have a chilling effect on controversial postings have been switching to using facebook connect instead of allowing one to register anonymously because then whatever people post becomes a part of their permanent digital trail, easily linked to them by future employers etc. When openly speaking against the government it is easy to see where there is a fear of it coming back to haunt you. What the government does with that list of people today may be very different than what it does later. How about all those patients who revealed things to their physicians with the expectation of confidentiality who are now having that information fed into the government’s database by executive order? The people making up Anonymous grew up in the age of the internet, no them anonymity is the default and a valuable tool. They understand that once the information associating you with something exists that can become a powerful weapon against you in the future. Better to just keep your name off the list by wearing the mask.
indeed
You might want to read a novel or two by Baroness Emma Orczy sometime.
Just to add that the baroness wrote the Scarlet Pimpernel stories.
Huzzah! I must powder my wig, see to my beauty spot, and join the affray! Sink me, if I’d known there was a place for frippery and foppery in the Movement, I’d have thrown my hat in long ago. Not literally, of course – MY hats cost me a pretty penny and I won’t have them spoiled over politics.
So I guess you’re not one of those who throw their hats on the ice when a player scores a 3rd goal.
“They seek him here.
They seek him there.
Those Frenchies seek him
Everywhere.
Is he is Heaven,
Or is he is Hell? —
That damn’d elusive
Pimpernel!”
“Sink me!”
Increasingly so do the police.
All you badge lickers out there just remember it will be officer friendly raiding your houses in the gun grabs.
Thankfully, our recently elected Sheriff wrote a letter to the Editor just a few days ago, coming down firmly on the side of gun owners and gun ownership. This should not be surprising, as Oklahoma is the only state in the Union wherein the Prez won not a single county in either election. Actually, Oklahoma has more registered Democrats than Republicans, but consistently votes as though the State were composed on all Republicans. Gun ownership and hunting is a way of life here. I had my first gun, a single shot break over .410 shotgun at the age of 11. I can’t think of a single Sheriff in surrounding counties that feel differently. I am equally certain that the Police feel much the same, even with Oklahoma’s new open carry law.
The jack-booted thugs with the low i.q. and the badge most certainly are not part of the solution—except as in “final solution.”
By itself, a mask isn’t evidence they’re on the wrong side of the fight for liberty.
Ben Franklin created a false persona, “Silence Dogood,” to submit his writings for publication when his brother, James, who employed Ben as an apprentice in his printing shop, refused to publish the writings Ben offered under his own name. James published all 14 of the letters Ben submitted in The New England Courant and only learned Ben had written them later.
Best to reserve judgment on the basis of other factors.
Ben, a city boy, also wore a fur cap in Paris, implying he was a rustic frontiersman, and he refrained from corrected the assumption that he was a Quaker.
Participants in the Boston Tea Party disguised themselves as indians. Also, there was a great deal of planning that went on in secret, such as when the colonists buried a cannon to hide it and Paul Revere and his buddies set up the “one if by land, two if by sea” signals.
Had they been open about their intentions and opposition to the king they’d likely have ended up a footnote describing a minor rebellion in the North American colonies that was unsuccessful and in which the traitors were summarily hanged.
I’m opposing gun control with my name and face, and have been for longer than some of these self-righteous masked script kiddies have been alive.
You’re not alone.
Your comment reminds me of the great line Albert Finney delivers as the gamekeeper in Skyfall: “I was ready before you were born.”
For goodness sake.
Give ‘em a sardonic “Welcome to the party pal” and be glad we’ve got more allies.
Speaking of allies, remember it took guys openly crossing the beach and guys working secretly in the shadows of the hinterland to pull off D-Day. Doesn’t have to be one or the other.
It also took a lot of others involved in nothing but lies and subterfuge — fake radio traffic, fake tanks, fake airplanes, etc., to convince the Germans the invasion would be at Calais instead of Normandy. As the British were fond of saying at the time, “Confusion to the enemy.”
One disguised corpse… (operation mincemeat).
You should really learn to take all the help you can get. Even if it comes from, to some of you, ideologically impure source. Enemy of your enemy may not always be your friend, but he can still help you to defeat your enemy.
“script kiddies”
I loathe that term. Usually, its employed by someone meaning to belittle someone else’s technical knowhow. I’ve typically found that the someone using it doesn’t have the first technical clue themselves.
Wait, a second look at Anonymous?
Maybe not… they’re just warning the left/liberal progressive buddies.
See, he admits it!
When the faceless bureaucrats of the EPA, IRS, Ag Department, and other offensive entities come our from behind their masks, then those calling themselves Annonymous will be a level “playing” field and can become public.
Don’t forget to add the FED to that list.
Same here. You got to hand it to them though; ACLU certainly isn’t stepping up.
ACLU only likes left/liberal causes.
Nah, ain’t buying that; it’s a setup for some sort of astroturf operation. These people are hardcore lefties; they don’t need or want 2nd Am. rights for the citizenry because they all assume they’ll be among the rulers and will have guns and the right to use them as they please.
Next thing you know, the FBI will be stinging (entrapping) alleged militia members or Tea Party activists who were sitting around blogging or who got together to drink coffee and BS politics and we’ll start having show trials of the racist scum who dared to attempt to overthrow the Soros Junta. Hell, they can fake the whole thing using actors right down to executing the plotters and at least 51% of the res publica would believe every bit of it, another 30% wouldn’t know or care about it, and the rest of us would just be marginalized as extremists, racists, whatever buzzword the communists are using that week.
Five years ago if somebody had asserted to me that the government could or would fake something like Newtown, I would have thought them a nutso tinfoiler/black helicopter type. Today, I can’t say I believe they faked it, but I can’t dismiss it out of hand.
Don’t dismiss it out of hand…hackers could realize they’ve been duped, and the Aaron Swartz thing probably isn’t going over well.
Art Chance,
Nah, ain’t buying that; it’s a setup for some sort of astroturf operation. These people are hardcore lefties; they don’t need or want 2nd Am. rights for the citizenry…
With you on that one. I’d love to be proved wrong, but I’m very, very skeptical.
Many of them aren’t as left wing as you think, or at least they don’t follow the Obama wing of the left lockstep. Anarchistic may be closer to the truth, or left libertarian. They’ll join in things like the occupy movement because they hate “big business” but they’re not worshipers of the state either. Check out the website encyclopediadramatica.se (warning, VERY NSFW) which is sort of the unofficial anonymous wiki, and look at their articles parodying the left. They sarcastically refer to Obama as “Black Jesus” and mock the people worshiping him, they make fun of the whole “anti-racist” thing and everything PC in general, and they absolutely hate net censorship.
The mainstream left wing are raging hypocrites in any number of ways. They act like Bush’s wars and drone strikes are crimes against humanity while Obama’s are great, the patriot act and domestic surveillance are perfectly fine as long as Obama’s in power, etc. They are partisan hacks with no real principles beyond accruing power. Anonymous hates central government power whomever wields it and is at least willing to call a spade a spade and stand by their beliefs regardless of the party of the man in the oval office. They hate Obama’s surveillance, they hate his attempts at censoring and controlling the internet, they hate that his DOJ has arrested and imprisoned a number of them for what they consider “activism”, and they openly mock the media’s efforts to shove his agenda down our throats.
The movement has many flaws, but they are not in bed with the mainstream Obama/Soros/Hillary/fascist left. In fact they recognize it for what it is. They’re a breed of libertarian left that has all but disappeared from mainstream politics, so its easy to assume that just because they oppose many conservative interests they support the whole liberal fascist agenda, but they don’t. I’m willing to believe that they’ll help make an honest stand for gun rights, possibly hack registries and databases, leak documents exposing illegal activity on the part of the government, etc.
Anonymous is leaderless, there are various cells using the same name. Can’t wait the leftist faction to start denouncing the libertarian faction. Hope to see the day they hack the DoJ or EPA.
TMP! I’m proud of you for a change! In the U.S. a faction of the Anarchist Party broke to form the Libertarian Party for the same exact reasons the progressives/socialists/Communist Parties broke to join the Democrat Party. One major difference though! The Libertarian Partys new platform more closely identified with the GOP and thus, they joined with the GOP.
There are many factions of the anarchists representing several slightly differing ideologies around the world. Some operate quite overtly and many more operate very much covertly, depending on their ideologies and activities. Today, most in the U.S. operate covertly though, that didn’t always use to be the case. The new resurgence of the anarchists in the U.S. certainly do operate covertly. Of the more organized and prominent factions, they are affiliated with some of the long standing European anarchists groups — not so nice! They travel the world over and are very well funded.
Until last year, I followed their literature and their online activity. Got to be to much for me to find their online sites and bulletin boards as they opened and closed sometimes on a daily basis. Anyway, the government has agencies who do track them and so much better than myself.
They don’t mean well the the U.S. and its government! They, like the progressive socialists and communists know well, human nature when given freedoms and its perpensity to corruption and self defeat and they do everything possible to perpetuate it.
During the Spanish Civil War, the Anarchists stepped up to keep Madrid’s water and power going and trsh picked up. The other parties were too busy bakstabbing each other.
(Puts tin foil hat on)
The Obama Regime could be preppin’ for their “Reichstag Fire.”
That wasn’t a tinfoil hat you grabbed, there, bub.
That was reality.
We’re literally one ‘national emergency’ away from martial law and an ‘enabling act.’
At this point in time, almost any ‘emergency’ would do…
They’ve already pulled two “Reichstag Fire” incidents: The Aurora Movie shooting and the Newtown shooting. Three, if you count Fast And Furious. But that one was botched, and it backfired. It’s not just conspiracy theory anymore. Too many puzzle pieces are falling too neatly into place, and even the “low information” crowd are starting to figure it out.
Fast and Furious was intended to set up a Reichstag Fire incident. The other two are, IMO, not set ups.
Sandy Hook is being exposed as a hoax. Witnesses said the Batman shooter had a helper, and witnesses at the Sikh temple said there were four shooters, not one. No tin foil hat neccesary. The gun grab is in trouble, they need an excuse to declare martial law. There is some speculation that something is planned for the Super Bowl. I think the Marxist-Leninists only have two years. Implementation of Obanacare will likely cost them the Senate majority. I’m expecting flash mob race riots with highly publisized police shootings to kick off the mass arrests. The unthinkable is quite possible.
Ah, yes riots. The most compelling answer to the question “why do you need an ‘Assault rifle’?”. As the left loves to point out the AR-15 is designed to kill large numbers of people quickly, and that’s exactly the reason why a citizen needs one in defending his home or business from rioters, whatever their motivation. What would Obama do if there were another Rodney King style riot, perhaps triggered by the Trayvon Martin case? I guarantee he wouldn’t send in troops to quash it like Bush did. Matter of fact I doubt he’d do anything to reign in “his people” (as he’s called them, not me). Citizens would be on their own in defending themselves. What’s he going to do when the rioters come up against a wall of citizens armed with those evil “assault weapons”? That’s anybody’s guess, but I wouldn’t put anything past him in trying to protect the “righteously angry” looters.
George Zimmerman.
I’m sorry- but the 6 yr old grandson of someone I know was shot and killed at Sandyhook, so knock off the ‘hoax’ bs. It’s bad enough both parties are exploiting the tragedy to further agendas- especially the progressives (there are no Democrats anymore). Real people died, and real families were torn apart. If anything, it’s a damnation of the state of mental health care in this country, not the state of gun control (I grew up shooting and going to shows, and frankly, I still think the initial Brady bill is cr*p).
We don’t know how many were killed, nor how many did the shooting. We have enough to know the narrative is a lie, a hoax.
I’m kinda with you, Art.
Only consider this:
The reason that the Libertarian Party is totally dysfunctional is because its greatest proponents come from both the extreme right end the extreme left. They both agree on certain, basic principles, with equal, total commitment, but left in a room together, they will fight like cats and dogs over everything else.
Yet, I have known cats and dogs to be best friends.
Food for thought.
I have always been glad for all the dead Russians during WWII, because it meant less dead Americans.
Easy there, Art. Can’t agree with you on this one. Obama and the crew have no need to get into the black helicopter and dark-science mode. Their plan for accomplishing the “fundamental transformation” is simple, well along, and transparent. They have captured the media, hoodwinked the dimwits of the Hollywood and celebrity crowd, found willing fools and accomplices in academia, brainwashed the youth, and now they are patiently waiting to spring the final trap. Economic collapse. They are just waiting for that monster wave for the big surfboard ride to the sunny beach of the collectivist paradise. Nothing high tech. Just borrow, spend, bankrupt and move in for the takeover. That was cutting-edge about 20 centuries ago. And it still works. Just give it a little more time. Soon it will be upon us.
Yooper, all they’re riding the waves for is the big crash on the rocks. Good luck with that, I say. SAIL!
^^ THIS ^^
Obama is above all predictably arrogant and smug – this isn’t just “fundamental transformation” but the hit back twice as hard and a slam dunk on whitey. At its core and off the teleprompter, this is a Southside Chicago, trash talking brother shooting hoops, his lackey minions protecting the flank and providing the setup.
No compromise and no mercy.
Anything that seems “too good to be true” usually is too good to be true. I do not believe them for a second.
They didn’t NEED to fake Newtown. All they had to do was to INVITE it, by means of gun-free zones.
For anybody who has studied and followed the anarchists organizations around the globe, its not suprising that they come to surface on the issues of gun control. Wherever they feel they can gain some publicity they come running with all kinds of threats against governments for which they haven’t ever the grit to carry out themselves, much less, face to face. They’re kinda like the warriors of today, perceiving a tyrannical government and advocate ot threaten insurrection against the government, but actually, ‘their’ war is only a war of words.
Repeat after me: The truth becomes the truth when you repeat it enough. Repeat again, class….
THIS.
So, how does “Anonymous” feel about the Tea Party?
The Tea Party are their mommas and daddies. Who do you think taught them how to hack?
We were playing with computers back when the Occupy crowd were babies, back when computers were big, bulky and expensive.
Don’t want their “help”.
And yet the founding fathers ahad the help of the French crown.
Take assistance where you can get it.
This is starting to look like a Neal Stephenson novel.
Actually, it’s starting to look like the movie Brazil.
Throw in the occupants of thew White House and you’ve got the Necronomicon and the Pkakotic Manuscripts.
No, Obama and his merry band of educated fools are nowhere near cool enough to be associated with the Chthulu Mythos and the Great Old Ones.
“When the stars are right…”
Interesting you should say that. I did not know about him until recently when I downloaded Cryptonomican and am about halfway through. I like it but honestly I get lost in the mathematics sometimes. I can understand some things about data analysis and science but my background is more physical science, medicine and application. Still thus far I get a better understanding of what we do every day when I read this book. Thanks for the reference. Got a few days off this week to finish this wonderful book.
On guns the whole thing is making me more worried. I thought with what myself and family has done in learning use of handguns was OK , maybe more than that. We are safe and responsible. I am not an expert level but I chose a path of medical not warrior. Still I get that defense is our own responsibility and thought we were in a good place with that. Now I am concerned that is not enough. Do I need a tactical shotgun now because the bad people have bigger stuff then the 1911 I have? They do.
So I guess we need to gun up to bushmaster rifles and all that. I do not want to need to carry around just to feel safe at the grocery store or just to go out for the night for dinner. I am the guy who gets called in when someone shoots themselves or someone else “cleaning their gun” in the night and…
Spindok
The bad guys have had bigger more powerful stuff than the 1911 for a century, I wouldn’t worry about it now. As much as the media and politicians like to talk about and flash images of the “scary assault rifles” the truth is that they don’t do anything my great grandfather’s WWII rifle couldn’t do. The only difference is that the modern weapons are made of plastics and aluminum to save weight so they have fancy looking composite components instead of antique looking wood stocks. The old school ones are every bit as deadly, same magazine capacity, same rate of fire, fires cartridges of equal or greater power, etc. The liberals and their pet media and the low information people they target are too retarded to understand this though, hence the hysteria over “assault weapons” that have been floating around for a century with far less controls than today.
Think of the bad guys as pathogenic organisms, or cancers.
Do a little checking and see how many people get robbed at gas stations and quick stops. Consider how fast you can get to your handgun if the door got kicked in right now, or when you are fixing or eating dinner, or watching TV.
The safest place for a firearm is in a holster on you. At home, at work, or travelling.
Always carry, never tell.
Forget arma-lite. You need power. Much less expensive to buy ak47 and much more powerful.
Sir, I would suggest a shotgun as one of the best home defense weapons. Your 1911 is a great pistol, but a shotgun allows for a little flexibility in hitting your attacker/home invader. A decent 12 gauge pump with an 18.5″ barrel would do fine -Mossberg,Remington and Winchester all make good guns that are available at a reasonable price. The whole family can easily learn to use a shotgun. . . it is a win-win situation.
Likely this is a “False-Flag” operation.
Probably just another fine product of Obama for America.
Doesn’t smell false flag, but these people have no integrity and are not to be trusted.
Yeah, I don’t think I’ll be embracing Anonymous anytime soon. This is the same group that likes to hack into people’s banking & credit information – just because they can. The like to hack into government data – just because they can. We have absolutely no idea who or what organization is behind Anonymous – we just know they like to create havoc. How are we to be sure a group funded by Soros or the like isn’t behind Anonymous? No thanks…
Which is precisely why we can trust that they’re telling the truth. Anonymous is on its own side, not anybody else’s. As such, they will subvert the government because they can. That’s not to say they’re the good guys, because they’re not, but neither are they pawns for the enemy.
The important phrase there is “just because they can”. They know how. And they’re just ordinary citizens. And that is Power.
Anonymous — doing the job the GOP won’t.
Man, that leaves the field wide open. “What the GOP will not do.”
What /will/ the GOP do? Blasted spineless bottom feeders.
The GOP is too craven and corrupt to be salvaged. We need to cowboy up and form a conservative party.
if they’re so good at leaking documents, where are Ovomits BC and college records… if they leak those, then I’ll donate my next paycheck to them
Ditto. Two paychecks in fact.
And I’ll bake a cake!
I’m 100% with you on that! Let’s take up a collection.
I am a big PJ Media/Instapundit fan. I classify my politics as libertarian / anarcho-capitalist / arch-conservative. I generally disagree with the Repubs on religion, sex, and drugs, but I always vote Repub. I am an atheist but my wife is Catholic and my in-laws whom I love very much are heavily anti-abortion and I respect their beliefs while I disagree with them. I am also a gun nut. OTo my Christian and Republican friends: people like me are on your side. The super radical left and super radical right are very similar. How can you be anti-government and not own guns? Thank you Anonymous for joining the fight. Unlike the left wing puppet the ACLU, Anonymous sticks to their convictions.
Repubs, find your friends wherever you can. The enemy of your enemy is your friend.
Harry, you are not my enemy.
And it’s not the “radicals” left or right who are the problem, but the ones who want to maintain power — and wealth — through division.
Hmmm…never seen you here before.
“The enemy of your enemy is your friend.”
No, as proven by the Soviets in WWII, the enemy of your enemy is just your enemy’s enemy that’s all. No more, no less.
Can you perhaps work together to bring down your common enemy? Possibly, but never turn your back, nor grant them an iota of trust, and never assume that thier goals and yours are the same.
A temporary alliance against a common enemy does not necessarily automatically translate into friendship….simply combining resources towards a common goal.
If you only accept help from carbon copies of yourself, if you only align with those you deem pure enough in political outlook, then you are doomed to fail as the opposition has no such objections and will overwhelm you with legions of useful idiots.
Not saying anonymous is a useful idiot by any means (even taking into account they are likely a loose group rather than an individual), but if things really hit the fan it could be quite useful to have a resource operating independently who could hack government computers and expose or manipulate information in ways that would be useful.
Take the help being offered.
As a wise old Russian supposedly once said, “The perfect is the enemy of the good.”
Strive for perfection to the exclusion of those deemed less than perfect in their views and you will likely lose the struggle for the good as well in the long run.
The enemy of my enemy is my enemy’s enemy. No more, no less.
Sir, you have locked on to what I perceive as a significant trend. I have spent much more time on alternative media/blog sites looking for perspectives and information. And I am talking the full spectrum of opinion and research (left, right and weird). I can’t say I have found anything reliable but what I have noticed is that persistent thinkers are coming to the same conclusion and identifying the same enemy. It is utterly fascinating. People that at one time I felt were pathetic leftists may be the guy in the “trench” next to you.
Good for him. I hope Obama never sleeps. I hope he watches over his shoulder, every waking, breathing moment of his life. I hope Karma catches up with him, and I hope hell is coming with it.
Ah yes, Anonymous. . . the enemy of my enemy is my friend. Support the 2nd Amendment? Welcome, brothers in arms.
No, the enemy of my enemy is just my enemy’s enemy.
Absolutely. Patton should have been told to keep on going east, 3rd nuke should have been Moscow.
Same for North Korea, North Vietnam, Iran.
Agreed.
Perhaps. But the enemy of my enemy is also my enemy’s problem.
It’s good for your enemy to have problems.
And I do think it was Patton who said “remember, your enemy has problems of his own.”
Very well put! Imagine the casualties on allied forces if Germany had not had two fronts to fight simultaneoulsy.
I’d suggest the beaches at Normandy would have been an even greater bloodbath than they were – and quite possibly the landings would have failed.
Rule 29. The enemy of my enemy is my enemy’s enemy. No more. No less.
Rule 30: A little trust goes a long way. The less you use, the further you’ll go.
Another personal favorite:
Rule 24: Any sufficiently advanced technology is indistinguishable from a big gun.
Pass the grain of salt, please.
Here’s a block. I recommend the larger amount.
Lol
So, not been here posting very long but been reading. Do you recognize these names: TPM, Jespasinthru, mythbuster, and rrpjr. Reason I’m asking is because as far as I can tell, they didn’t show up until the anonymous article. Please correct me if I’m wrong.
You’re wrong wrt at least one of those.
TPM and mythbuster have been posting here for a long time. I think I have seen rrpjr a few times, too.
Anonymous and Occupy are bad news. Some of their issues, not so much. The GOP needs to get on the right side of the IP issue, for example. The fact that Obama is so cozy with the welfare capitalists is creating a nexus, even though I wouldn’t trust an Occupooper any further than I could throw one. Embrace the issue, but don’t trust the creep behind the mask.
The French proved to be a great help during the Revolution in spite of being on the wrong side of the F&I War. Enemy of my enemy. Maybe they can be trained were to sh*t.
The French were a-holes during the Revolution. We did most of the heavy lifting and they only assisted at Yorktown by blockading the harbor. Their plan was to double cross us to the Spaniards. The reason we became what we became is because we went behind their backs and made our own deal with the Brits. We’d had a war – but we were still a single people at that time.
There were as many French troops on the ground at Yorktown as there were Americans. We really should be grateful to the French for what they did during the Revolution.
Grateful? Well, yeah, of course. But remember, King Louis had his own agenda, and that was to harm King George. If the rebellious American colonials benefited from his actions, that was really immaterial to his actual goal: the Caribbean.
No thank you! The French only helped us to stick it to the Brits (the enemy of my enemy is my friend) and they planned to hand us over to Spain – so excuse me if I’m underwhelmed.
Wasn’t it just yesterday that an Occutard was arrested for trying to get at the governor of Wisconsin with some Molotov cocktails?
At my age of 75 I just hope I live long enough to kill a few Democrats in a genuine revolution. Democrats are responsible for almost all the ills that befall America. A few Republicans such as Dick Nixon were in there, too, and a few remain in D.C., but I doubt I’ll get a chance at them. But you run-of-the-mill Dems will have to watch out because I can’t wobble too far from home.
“We must show them the black flag.”
“Kill ‘em. Kill ‘em all.”
- Gen. Thomas “Stonewall” Jackson
Yes, indeed. We are getting ready for the dust up that many of us have waited for all our lives. I would venture to say that most military veterans, particularly those of the Viet Nam War era, are fed up to their eyeballs with watching what the Marxocrats have done to this country through the years. And now that the blood sacrifices of so many good men that have been maimed and died protecting and defending the Constitution have been pissed on by the Marxocrats, I expect that there are quite a few old men who can’t wait to get in a few good licks at the bastards before they go just to even the score.
There are some of us “middlin’” ladies who feel the same.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OTHRg_iSWzM
“Freedom’s just another word for nothing left to lose…”
Thgey can start by hacking into the DOJ computers and break loose some of the emails concerning fast and furious and the cover up.
Crap….. This is what you get when you allow a certain brand of idiot to think he’s god………
I would not have thought you would disparage President Obama that way!
wait…… there’s competition for the title. the results aren’t all in……..
Here is the next Republican nominee slamming NRA. What a rat!
http://www.mediaite.com/online/chris-christie-slams-reprehensible-nra-for-dragging-peoples-children-into-gun-control-debate/
Yeah, Christie is a rat. I don’t know what he thinks his game is. Kissing Obama’s ass over hurricane sandy pissed a lot of people off due to the upcoming election and the obvious shameless self promotion, but at least you could see that he was trying to paint himself as a moderate, and given the GOPs recent history of nominating the squishiest rino available, maybe not a bad strategy. If he starts going against the NRA and gun rights though he’s finished. He can’t win the GOP nomination without strongly supporting gun rights, and if he does a lot won’t vote for him. I simply won’t vote for an anti-gun Republican, no matter how bad his opponent is. It’s bad enough that we’ve got one major party trying to strip our rights, it would be better to let the GOP suffer than allow that poison to spread to it.
Anonymous is a “crusader against government corruption and lack of transparency”? Really? So what have they exposed from the 0bama administration? Either they aren’t any good or they aren’t really who they say they are. Imagine what they could reveal if they wanted to. Its a target rich environment guys, can’t be that hard.
Until then, they’re just part of the problem.
Mostly, they’ve targeted corporate and government corruption, not just nationally, but internationally. (In the proces, they opened a few cans of worms that Pubbies didn’t want to open, so it pissed you off.)
Remember that the first few days of Occupy was about corporate corruption…then it got hijacked by left-wing extremists. Within days, the Democrat machine -including the unions- came down on them like a ton of bricks.
Re:
“One wonders how Anonymous might use its hacking skills that have perpetually confounded the government and big business to step in on the side of gun-rights proponents.”…..”perpetually confounded”? …..don’t bet on that. It depends on how much money they want to devote to perceived threats. Rest assured the expertise is there.
Again…”perpetually confounded”?…that’s a fishing statement right out of 11th Grade. Genuine “gun-rights” proponents certainly don’t need the “help” of the likes of this adolescent-vibrator website calling themselves “Anonymous” and using as a logo the Guy Fawkes masks.
Some of the posters here read as if they’re starting second semester 10th Grade.
****pasted….”Guy Fawkes tried to blow up the Houses of Parliament by sneaking in lots of gunpowder.
That’s how you put it basically. Guy Fawkes wanted to practise Roman Catholic procedures but wasn’t allowed under King James VI rule. So to try and “teach them a lesson” he decided, along with others, to blow up all the government officials, King James and his family. All of these people would be in the House of Parliament on the 5th of November for the legislature ( to change the laws that need to be changed) and they thought that day would be perfect. They piled ten tons of gunpowder into the cellar of the House Of Parliament.
Unfortunately, they had sent an anonymous letter to a old friend,….”
…look up the rest of the story for yourselves. Some of you folks need some “straightening out” time.
Don’t for a moment think they are on our “side”. They are on the side of using an issue to stir up a civil war. If they can whip up the gun rights advocates they will then USE them for their own means. All authoritarian/fascistic movements did the same. Look at this country. The black population constantly whipped up against the majority to foment perpetual revolution and “change”. Don’t fall for it. Be very cautious. They are orchestrating and pitting side against side. That does not mean they are on ours.
Well said.
My enemies enemy is my friend.
Bridget, I have a problem with your PJM article icon. Guy Fawlkes? That is the image of the anarchist left. It has no place on the Constitutionalist right. Don’t point that face at us. We have no interest in anarchy. We only seek to uphold the vision and brilliance of our Founding Fathers. Guy Fawkes has NOTHING to do with American Liberty.
Also well said.
That’s the logo Anonymous uses. The piece is about Anonymous, straight reporting, no endorsement or non-endorsement.
Wasn’t Guy Fawkes a devoted Catholic? No, I am not running down Catholics but that doesn’t square with the anarchist left, I don’t think.
If by devoted, you mean zealot, then yes. The Catholic Church does not approve of terrorism as a means to end persecution, and permits violent rebellion against the government only as a last resort after all means of peaceful resistance have been exhausted and the violation of natural rights by said government has become intolerable.
As for Anonymous, I don’t think they much care that what Guy Fawkes’ religion was. Anonymous has launched attacks against both the Israeli government and the Muslim Brotherhood. They have attacked both the Vatican and Communist China. They attacked the Church of Scientology and the Westboro Baptist Church. They have no allegiances other than the free flow of information by whatever means necessary, and they do as they will because they can.
They only use the mask because they started on 4chan back when Guy Fawkes mask wearing character Epic Fail Guy was a popular meme. Anon people dressed up like EFG to protest Scientology years back, and the imagery stuck.
Gee – I thought they wore it because they thought it was cool when they went to see V for Vendetta.
You need to say what year. Most religions have their bad times and skeletons in closets.
I don’t have much faith in anyone named “Anonymous.” I DO have a lot of faith in people like Jefferson, Adams, Washington, and Franklin. I’ll follow those guys any day of the week.
But they’re long dead, you say? Time to find new ones, people just like them who believe in the Constitution and its principles. The original Founding Fathers gave us a clear roadmap on how to govern. Over the years, though, we have tortured and disregarded the very document that made us the greatest nation on this plane: the Constitution. When it comes to the Founding Fathers, we should follow their words, their beliefs, and, most of all, their actions. We may be facing terrible times ahead of us. But with people like Jefferson, Adams, Washington, and Franklin (to name a few) standing right beside us, we cannot and will not fail in keeping this nation free.
I wonder why it was that that generation spawned so many great minds and ours seems to produce just the opposite – feeble minded weaklings or evil incarnate.
But some of them didn’t sign their articles in the Federalist papers.
@Libertyship
You’re going to have a hard time finding new Washington’s, Franklin’s, Adams’s and Jefferson’s in our population today. Our education system is not exactly part of any new enlightenment.
Such conjecturing could drive a man insane
And I’m the one to set this gossip quite to rest
Anonymous is me
Indeed! And I’m the Queen of Spain!
Anonymous is nothing but a nosy pest
No, the vicar says Anonymous is a bishop in disguise
Who gives absolution night and day
Stuff and nonsense, don’t you know
He’s a maharajah from Bombay?
They say he has enormous feet
And that he tends to overeat
I’ve heard he’s fussy with his food
And eats his breakfast in the nude
Is he robust? Or very pale?
At least we know he’s male!
think about what fast & furious involved, and you will get a sense of what these fascists will do to have a reason to grab your guns.
they bought the guns for f & f w/ stimulus (taxpayer) funds. probably the only ‘shovel ready’ funds actually spent.
they (fed law enforcement personnel) put them in specific gun shops in border towns and told the gun shop owners to sell them to people known to be murderous drug cartel members. when lawful gun shop owners objected, they were somehow convinced to cooperate.
somebody was on good enough terms w/ the murdererous drug cartel bosses to convince them to come into u.s. gun shops and purchase these weapons in bulk, and then transport and distribute them to other like minded murderers. all this w/o fear of being arrested during an illegal purchase attempt? yeah, somebody trusts somebody a lot! where’s obama from? chicago?
weapons sold in the u.s. (except under special permit) are of the single shot variety, not fully automatic. the drug cartel people probably didn’t even want these guns. they like the easily obtainable (and probably cheaper, not that $$ matters too much) fully auto type weapons. probably purchase them in bulk from other bad guys. hundreds of rounds per minute beats the heck in a turf battle against one bullet at a time.
then they ‘conveniently’ leave them at the scene of the murders so it will be American guns that did the killing.
btw, just saw on ‘drudge’ where the guy who claims to have killed Brian Terry was arrested today.
after it was discovered that the obama crew had been trafficing in illegal guns to murderers, other obama crews went about destroying evidence and stalling congressman issa for time. finally, when issa got too close, too quick, the pretender ran and hid everything behind executive privilege.
since then the media has repeatedly lied about the facts of the case. there never were any tracking devices on any of these guns. yet, even today cbs is, in its Brian Terry murderer captured article, still falsely claiming the intent was to track the guns. no poor pitiful liars, the intent was to create dead people to blame on American guns. the dead people part really worked well enough. wonder what the number of dead from obama & holder’s gun sales is up to now? you won’t get it from any old media source i’m bettin’.
imho, the kenyan is making some kind of move. he already has the entire country stirred up, and the old media is giving cover fire, as usual. halfwit congress critters falling over each other to see who can support the most stupid gun legislation. i don’t believe the kenyan’s army (he said he needed during his first campaign), whatever that is, wants to go up against millions of pissed off Americans w/ semiauto rifles and such. that’s why he is concentrating on the ‘assault’ weapons, as he now calls them. one would think that most gun murders these days are probably done by obamabots wielding pistols, not mr. average American w/ his hunting rifle.
There is an errant assumption that weakens this article and every preceeding comment. Anonymous isn’t a singular organization that can be a direct label or confronted like the Tea party, the origins of the Civil Right movement, or the NRA. It is simple a banner, that can be co-opted by any interest to cover the identities of the members. Any one, from any way, can hoist the flag, don the anonymity of the Guy Fawlkes mask, and spread the message they embrace.
The Occupy crowd suffered/enjoyed something much similar to this nebulous nature. At the open, it was a gathering of poorly informed masses expressing misguided emotions of envy and entitlement, but beneath that was a swarming mass of differing opinions. Occupy and 99% labels gave cover to numerous movements, from peaceful gatherings to violent occupation of public buildings.
In contrast, groups like the NRA, NAACP, ACORN, Patriot Guard Riders, and West Burrow Baptist Church have a clearly defined message and purpose, and can be fought on such grounds. Ignoring the subtleties of agreement, acceptance, or even mutual understanding, there is a commonality to be found amongst the people that take to those banners. Parallels can not be made to Anonymous, only barely so to Occupy, and to a stronger point for the Tea Party.
Taking that into consideration, I advise against rushing to the banner of Anonymous now that one voice from the fog has expressed an interest in gun rights. Acknowledge the statement as a single string in a vast thread, and nothing more. To accept and raise this point, simple because it supports our views, will also connect us to every other point that was made under the banner of Anonymous in the minds of the uninformed.
On the subject of the Guy Fawlkes masks, have you ever found it ironic that people expressing an interest for further government involvment into their lives have taking the image of a man who died for trying to make a violent statement against percieved government tyranny? The visage of Guy Fawlkes has been used to express both sides of the government spectrum, from tyranny to anarchy, to the point that it can not be attributed to any single issue. Now, the use of the image is simply an attempt to embrace anonymity while expressing your view points, either because you fear reprisal from those who oppose your view point or because you don’t have the courage to connect your view point to a public identity.
I sincerely doubt anyone in Anonymous knows who Guy Ffawkes is. They’re cribbing the mask from the movie/comic V for Vendetta, Alan Moore’s hysterical screed against Thatcherite England.
Thinking in such absolutes is problematic. Label every one who has stood under the banner of Anonymous as a malinformed rube and you risk underestimating them. Simple consider the members of Anonymous as a representative sample of those with access to the internet. They can range from a 13 year old angry adolescent to a wizened old dude.
To reiterate, Anonymous isn’t single minded collective, just a name.
From what I’ve read the real history of Guy Fawkes, he was part of the plot to over throw the Protestant government in England to replace it with a Catholic government backed by Spain. So he was part of a plot to remove one tyranny with that of another.
Makes me wonder why Alan Moore even wanted to use the imagery in his comic and then the movie continues it. The British hang and burn Guy Fawkes in effigy every Nov 5 for a reason. He is not the hero Anonymous or Alan Moore make him out to be.
The British hang and burn Fawkes in effigy because he failed. Had he succeeded, he would be lionized as a hero. By the same token, had the War of Colonial Secession gone the other way we would condemn Washington, Jefferson, Hale, Revere et al. as vile traitors, and Jan. 14 would be a national holiday (that’s Benedict Arnold’s birthday).
As always, the winners write the history books.
I generally ignored the Occupy movement as a bunch of hippies, anarchists and people who mad themselves unemployable crying that other people know how to turn a dime into a quarter. So I never really grew to know “Anonymous”. Whether this video is by Anonymous or Pseudo-Anonymous and whether the politics behind the video is something I would support or abhor, the facts and sentiment expressed is something I can support. I just wish a Congressman or Senator would stand up and say something similar.
Note to self: Less drinking and more proofreading.
All this distracts everyone from the ‘Elephant in the room” . Islam is a war with the West they prove this every day by both their words and their actions. Meanwhile the naive, gullible and misinformed Western Politicians and the Lame Stream EneMedia and most of all Islamophile left wing moonbats all arrogantly presume that THEY know more about Islam and its aim of world domination than Muslims themselves do. Hopefully the West will wake up join the dots and see the world wide catastrophe of violence and war that Islam is fomenting towards that aim of world domination before its too late.
Our whole revolution and existence as an independent country started because some folk tried to take people’s guns… food for thought.
Anonymous is just a joke that a bunch of bored kids, age 13 and up (to say 25 by now) use. They meet on forums and chat rooms and do random stuff, mostly as a joke. All of the videos on youtube from Anonymous are jokes by random kids who never did anything other than make a video, well that’s true of 99.9% of them.
Get this through your heads. It’s a gag. And yes random kids do come together to mess with people. And usually that’s a joke too. Because they’re bored.
If Anonymous seems to be on your side, it’s because you’re funny and they’re laughing at you.
Anonymous sparks no interest in me.
The only thing that’s going to shake this nation out of its perverted love of Obama is a catastrophic event that will show Obama to be the traitor he is.
Party like it’s Saturday, December 6, 1941.
I guess we really do live in “interesting times” after all.
Realize they’re probably varied age differences here. But I think we’re pretty much on the same page. Just wanted to share as I was listening to music reading all the feedback. Check the link: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sENM2wA_FTg
Enjoyable music as we try and figure out how to save our country.
I wouldn’t trust anonymous as far as I can throw them..
And no one should trust anonymous. They are not Americans. The are trying to start civil disobedience, To further their own agenda what ever that may be,
“The liberals and their pet media and the low information people they target are too retarded to understand this though”
Well, duh, to be understandable to you anonymous peeps. Look, if you want to prepare like real little warriors, I’m sure you could contact so many of us here and we’d be more than happy to teach you how to grow a set.
But, while we’re at it, so many people above mentioned all that fine hacking info you could get on Obama. We’re waitin…
The documented Sandy Hook hoax….. watch and see for yourself. I would not put it past Soros, Hillary and Imam Obama to get guns away from law abiding Americans to make us sheeple when their muslim paymasters want to establish sharia law…
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Wx9GxXYKx_8&bpctr=1358486387
The year 2012
Obama’s late term abortion bill kills more children in one year than his gun phobic gun laws could save in a thousand Obama lifetimes.
Are you sure about this? Anonymous hangs out around the web on 4chan. And while yes there is a thread there /k/ for all the pro-gun people the denizens of /b/ seem to be very anti-gun. So I’m not so sure Anonymous is all that pro-gun, maybe some parts of them are, but not the whole group.
/b/? snort.
“Anonymous” videos on YouTube are nearly always “/b/-tards” pretending to be Anonymous.
Anonymous are not Americans. It is on outside group trying the old divide and conquer. The best way to further their agenda(has nothing to do with gun debate)would be to get us fighting ourselves. If we get distracted over this issue we open ourselves in so many ways. DONT BUY INTO ANONYMOUS
how many kids died at Waco?
Interesting, but I’m not buying it yet. For me, it’s the same as what went on during the Iraq war. I didn’t think it was such a great idea, but I was hesitant to oppose it because then I’d be supporting the same cause as Code Pink and other anti-war leftist loonies.
And I didn’t disagree with the war for the same reasons. It wasn’t about morality or “blood for oil” or any of that crap. I just thought it was a stupid move, militarily and politically. Getting rid of Saddam, ok. Hanging around indefinitely to do “nation building,” not such a great idea.
Same with Afghanistan, really. Helping the Northern Alliance flush out the Taliban, fine. Sending in thousands of troops and State Department people with an open-ended mission to “nation build,” not fine. But I kept my mouth shut because I didn’t want to validate the freaks or add to their political capitol.
So, while I agree with this particular “Anonymous” about gun control (to a degree), I’m not read to get in bed with him/her/it. There’s that little matter of the anti-big-business part of their platform. I work for big business – sorry, just a drone not a fat cat – so I see things from a different perspective than the anti-capitalists do. It’s my living. Don’t mess with my rice bowl.
What to do? I don’t know? Nothing, at the moment. In real civil wars, there are often lots of factions with lots of guns, all of them pointing at the Government. Once the Government is out of the way, they start pointing the guns at each other. Sometimes they don’t even wait that long. Look at the Republicans in the Spanish Civil War. That’s how I feel about Anonymous. We agree on one thing but we’re definitely not BFFs.
Shame on PJ Media for even giving anonymous the time of day. Its ok to be biased but this is the extreme. PJ media put Newsmax and Fox to shame. I wouldnt doubt if anonymous is PJ media. Even if I do agree with a few points that anonymous have I will not recommend that anyone watch it. Anonymous are not even americans and I wonder about PJ media. And I’m sure its only a matter of time before PJ media will not allow me to comment or I am so sick of the bullshit they call news. I understand that PJ media are a Right wing publication but you guys are way to far out there for me. Get a grip if you want to be taken seriously.
Anonymous adopted the mask during it’s action against scientology. It was an easy way to create a ‘face’ that everyone could see. A face that would appear enormous.
It has continued to use the mask. But it has nothing to do with the historiocity of Guy Fawlkes.
Anonymous acts for Anonymous.
When that congressman’s kid ‘hacked’ Palin’s email he tried to get Anonymous to spread it around for him, to get Anonymous to search it for incriminating or embarassing info. He tried to tell Anonymous what to do. So Anonymous outed him. Anonymous is not your private army.
Anonymous didn’t do this in solidarity with the NRA or the GOP. Anonymous did it because it’s right. What you choose to do about it is irrelevent. Anonymous are simply announcing that Anonymous is acting.
The blatant assault on our Second Amendment has prompted Americans to read and understand our Constitution…many for the first time ever. And we are awakening, opening our eyes and seeing the Left clearly…and grasping what their agenda is and what they intend to do to destroy the freest, most prosperous nation in human history. The Left’s goal is subjugation of the American people and enslavement of socialism under an overwhelming bureaucracy.
Americans will soon learn who Barrak Hussein Obama really is…and it ain’t pretty! To quote commentor FeralCat: “He’s not coming for our guns; he’s coming for us”.
Anonymous, for me, is dream come true, and here is why.
First, they can just post the names and addresses of the politicians and judges with the worse records. Their personal security has just gone to hell. If someone wants them, they don’t have to perform risky recon to find them.
Second, Anonymous can expose their emails and those of their staff, which I am sure would stand to discredit them. I think a digest would be great.
Third, it could out the supporters. They likely are gun free so making them ideal targets for home invasion or very safe burglary. It does work, and think of the fun when they start arming themselves.
Fourth denial of service and other fun is just frosting on the cake. Add a bit of cyber bullying, from users, and we have quite a package. These guys are not popular.
It appears that Anonymous has retracted their support of this video.
Anonymous are communist and muslim supporters. They will not support this video. Their goal is to destroy the capitalism aka the United States, just as it is Obama’s goal.
Anonymous are scum, too stupid to even know who it is they are representing with that mask. Ignore this video. It has nothing to do with them.
Look, to all the people insinuating otherwise, I’m not affiliated with Anonymous in any way, nor am I trying to promote them. I’m simply pointing out that unlike other mainstream leftist outfits they’re not all Obama bootlickers taking orders from whomever holds the reigns of America’s left. There are a lot of things I don’t agree with them on, but their efforts to undermine the Obama administration’s various net censorship and surveillance efforts at the very least is commendable. As other posters have pointed out they are not one unified front, a faction of Anonymous may well take credit for some action at the very same time as another faction denounces it. They are not by and large our friends, but if at least some of them are willing to undertake efforts to undermine Obama’s gun control push, that can only be a good thing. As others have pointed out, the Obama administration is a target rich environment as far as leaking and hacking goes, who knows what sorts of vile things may fall to the ground if someone really shakes the tree. If anonymous may be willing to gear up and do this then the ensuing scandals may be helpful in blunting their pushes, who knows. I for one would love to see the fast and furious emails among other things. Whatever else Anonymous may be, friend or foe, having them working against rather than for the present administration can only be a good thing as far as foiling that administration’s policy objectives goes.
The Battle of Athens was an armed rebellion led by WWII veterans and citizens in Athens and Etowah, Tennessee, United States, against the tyrannical local government in August 1946.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U5ut6yPrObw&feature=player_embedded
GO ANONYMOUS!
Finally something worth reading about