Sen. Lindsey Graham (R-S.C.) said today he doesn’t believe UN Ambassador Susan Rice’s claim that she was just using the intelligence available at the time when saying days after the Benghazi attack that it was most likely the result of protests over an anti-Muhammad video.
“I don’t believe that the best and current intelligence assessment on 16 September was that there was a spontaneous event in Benghazi based on a video that led to a mob that became a riot. The CIA station chief on the day of the attack reported in real time, ‘We’re under attack by al-Qaeda affiliates.’ The president in Libya said on the day of the attack — excuse me, on 16 September — al-Qaeda was involved,” Graham said today on ABC’s This Week.
“We’ve got drones. Release the video. We all know what a mob looks like in the Mideast,” he added.
Rice made the first comments about her post-Benghazi media tour in a Wednesday press conference.
“When discussing the attacks against our facilities in Benghazi, I relied solely and squarely on the information provided to me by the intelligence community. I made clear that the information was preliminary and that our investigations would give us the definitive answers. Everyone, particularly the intelligence community, has worked in good faith to provide the best assessment based on the information available,” Rice said.
“I am increasingly convinced — the FBI interviewed the survivors in Ramstein, Germany, the day after. I’m increasingly convinced that the best and current intelligence assessment on 16 September went against the video. The video was a political smokescreen,” Graham said. “The actual facts were this was a coordinated, pre-planned terrorist attack. When the president said on Letterman we think the video caused this, when he said to the U.N. that we’re not going to let some hateful video turn the Mideast into a bad spot, that they’re not relying on the best and current intelligence assessment, they’re pushing a political story.”
“All the evidence is that Ambassador Rice was using the information given to her by the intelligence community,” host George Stephanopoulos told Graham.
“I don’t believe that,” the senator shot back.
“Have the intelligence community, not the deputies, the people on the ground, put in one pile all the evidence of a pre- planned, coordinated terrorist attack with al-Qaeda militia in one pot and put in the other pot the evidence that this was a spontaneous mob created by a hateful video,” Graham continued. “I’ve seen no evidence — what did the FBI get from the survivors? They said there was never a mob to begin with. There were mobs in the — riots in the Mideast, but none of them have mortars, none of them lasted for seven hours. And why for seven hours could we not help these poor people? Where was the Department of Defense?”
“And when you look at the history of Benghazi, George, August 16th, there was a report coming out of Benghazi saying there are 10 al-Qaeda militias roaming around Benghazi, we cannot withstand a coordinated attack. This is on 16 August. The British closed their consulate in Benghazi. The Red Cross left. We kept our consulate open, unreinforced. There was an al-Qaeda storm brewing for months. I blame the president above all others.”
Sen. Dick Durbin (D-Ill.) retorted that Rice “dutifully reported” the intelligence report, “just exactly what we expect her to do.”
“They had decided not to include the al-Qaeda reference so we wouldn’t compromise our sources in Benghazi and in Libya,” Durbin claimed. “…This has just been a dance-fest to go after Ambassador Rice. That should come to an end.”
““All the evidence is that Ambassador Rice was using the information given to her by the intelligence community,” host George Stephanopoulos told Graham.”
I support partition because I believe the game has been so rigged by the likes of those who work for ABC that further participation in the American Republic ensures nothing but eventual emasculation and defeat for any who do not believe what George Stephanopoulos does.
Could there ever be a bigger obfuscating lying Rump swab for the Regime than D Head Durbin! They had decided not to use the Al Qaeda references so as not to expose our sourceses in Benghazi Libya! What the hell is that BS!
Of course, people with any brain matter realize that the Islamist-in-Chief is up to his neck in American deaths.
And the buck not only stops at his door, but it encircles others too – (Huma Abedin, Hill’s Deputy COS, the chief Muslim Brotherhood Mafia operative in the US; Samantha Powers, the R2p designer/mischief maker; Hill too and a host of supporting players.
And contained herein is more than food for thought, and it is merely the tip – http://adinakutnicki.com/2012/11/11/benghazigate-theory-revealed-at-this-blog-shored-up-by-lt-col-ralph-peters-overall-theory-leading-to-petraeus-resignation-too-commentary-by-adina-kutnicki/
Quite unbelievable that people still don’t realise that Benghazi Barack is pro islamist.By the way who paid for his university studies?
["]I’m increasingly convinced that the best and current intelligence assessment on 16 September went against the video. The video was a political smokescreen,” Graham said.
I believe it would be easier to draw up a list of statements by President You Didn’t Build That, his so-called “administration,” and sycophants of the former “news” media that don’t serve as political smoke screens. Nothing is ever what it seems with that bunch. The facts always need to be hidden or revised or explained away or obscured by patently false “narratives.”
Sooner or later, history will tell the truth. It’s going to be a record of all-encompassing deceit for the sake of deceit, destruction for the sake of destruction, malice toward America for the sake of malice toward America.
Given the way this country is headed its highly likely that much if any of the incriminating information will survive to see the light of day. If we can’t right the path this country is on soon it will be lost.
Yup, Eric Holder’s staying on for one more year, just long enough to shred every inch of evidence against his DOJ and any other incriminating evidence against the Obama administration. (Sounds like there’s been a fire on the 7th floor of the State Department headquarters in Washington, where, according to some reports, Hillary Clinton’s office is located http://abcnews.go.com/US/wireStory/fire-breaks-state-dept-hurt-17800664#.ULLeHYase70).
Some Attorney General: protect my POTUS, not American democracy.
This is a sad, sad day for the United States of America, once the beacon of the free world, now in the vanguard of corrupt dictatorships.
‘Never thought I’d live to see this.
Wolf – This says it all.
http://english.pravda.ru/opinion/columnists/19-11-2012/122849-obama_soviet_mistake-0/
Benghazi has just become another political football. It no longer matters what actually happened – the right wing is convinced something went wrong, and the left (and most people, from what I can see) don’t care. At this point, it’s just whipping a dead horse.
Yes, it appears that most people don’t care that the US was attacked and 4 Americans including one diplomat was killed and the dictator has lied and tried to cover it all up, Just like they don’t care that we now have a dictator who was elected President, just like they don’t care the US is about to crash and burn because of 16 trillion deficit and 220 trillion Debt, just like they don’t care if the Middlel east explodes and Muslims rule the world, just like they don’t care that radical jihadists have infiltrated our government and our country, just like they don’t care that 70% of black babies are born to unwed mothers, and 30% of white babies are born to unwed mothers,with all the attendant problems that such children have, such as depression, anxiety, trouble in school and with the law, drug abuse, failure to develop marketable skills, etc. etc. You’re so right Kevin – most Americans don’t care that the country is moving toward a socialist European model. It seems they are too busy smoking bong and getting high to notice that Western Civilization is going down in flames.
Cut to YouTube video outtake from ‘Star Wars’:
Luke: I am not afraid !
Yoda: You will be – You _will_ be !
I’ve got a tip for you: If you want to get Americans to care about any of your issues, it’s best not to rattle off your list of crackpot conspiracies en masse. You may be able to get some folks to swallow one at a time, but when you lay it all out there at once, the nuttiness of it all just becomes so overwhelming that nobody is going to take any of it seriously.
Which of those is a “conspiracy”?
The debt is real.
The fact that there are muslims in our government is real.
The fact that they sympathize with the muslim brotherhood is also real.
The birthrate to unwed mothers is also real.
You need to get out more. Maybe stop drinking from the socialist kool-aide fountain. ‘T’would also be nice if you just went away. It’s not that you are wrong; It’s that you know so very little and that which you think you know is untrue.
Cast your faith into the neverending glow of ever-enlightened academia. Go forth to your parents’ basement and live your life in great security. Fear not the internet, it will be your comfort-zone whereby you can criticize others who don’t think as you and make sure they are duly chastised for their inability to power their homes with fairy dust and pot smoke.
In short, grow up. Smell the coffee and reap the rewards of your neverending faith to the party. They didn’t teach you much about Soviet Russia or Pol Pot or Mao, did they? Or maybe they did in that all those things were “simply the best”.
Your words here are unimportant. You’d be a lot of fun to laugh at in person but it’d be a huge time-waster. You’re convinced you’re right. We’re convinced you’re wrong. So why do you come here other than to bother people?
“Which of those is a “conspiracy”?”
Are you kidding me? Do I have to go all bullet points here?
“we now have a dictator who was elected President”
False.
“the US is about to crash and burn because of 16 trillion deficit”
False, the deficit is ~$1T this year.
“and 220 trillion Debt”
False, the debt is ~$16T.
“..Muslims rule the world”
False.
“…radical jihadists have infiltrated our government and our country”
False.
You want to talk about the problems that accompany children born to unwed mothers? Great, there is a worthwhile conversation to be had there. Ditch the conspiracies and you might be able to start that conversation.
Misinformation does not a conspiracy make.
You are creating a false argument simply because someone got their facts wrong, akin to hearing loud banging as calling it “gunfire”. But with both, the fact remains that it must be investigated at the very least.
You have accused a person who got some things wrong as being a “conspiracy nut”. I make no such conclusion. I have to agree with the previous commenter that you simply come here to annoy people. You can’t seem to politely approach a subject without getting emotionally involved and you have repeatedly called people names, though indirectly; Not the sort of intellectual discussion you claim to endorse.
I further submit that much of your information is based on a see-no-evil belief that the democrats are the bastions of all that’s good and I counter with the belief that you are naive in thinking so. Reid, Pelosi, this sham of a president and many, many others, to include republicans who cannot see the forest for the trees are both inept as well as self-serving and pocket-liners with the people’s money. But I still believe, also that it’s the democrats who are worse at it than the republicans.
When someone exaggerates the numbers, it would be better to first acknowledge the seriousness of the issue, then perhaps correct the numbers, as you finally were forced to do. But I submit that if you could realize how much money sixteen trillion dollars is, you too would be concerned. Then, we would probably differ on how we got there. You would submit that it’s because of “evil George Bush” who put us into “wars we couldn’t afford” while I would submit that congress and their manipulation of the housing market set forth a very bad plan and put millions of people into debt they could not repay.
Remember, that the military is paid for with your tax dollars and mine. Sending them to war, other than the very expensive cost in lives, is essentially the same whether they do duty at their home station in the US without firing a shot, or if they’re deployed. There’s a lot about the military that I suspect you don’t know. Jets fly, weapons are used, salaries are paid whether they’re at war or not. The “cost” of fighting a war does increase the bottom line, but not as much as you might think…the military exists regardless. And the equipment is used, regardless.
The money that recently doubled the debt is new debt. And most of that in just the last four years. And it didn’t go to “infrastructure” like was stated by his royal majesty, Obama, who has said many times how much he doesn’t like the Constitution and most recently stated he wishes he could just do as he pleases. It’s not the first time he’s said it. It’s a foolish thing for a president to say, to say the least but I believe it’s an indicator of an underlying desire to be an autocrat. The type of personality can be found in any industry, job or function. Of course, stating this frustration is one thing, but he has written executive orders that circumvent the way the system was designed to work. I submit it’s because of his petulance and immaturity. You would submit that it’s because “Congress is being difficult”.
Finally, you refuse to admit that this nation is in trouble. In my opinion, and my observation, angry people such as the democrats who are in power aren’t the best thing this nation needs. And I further acknowledge and understand that people change when they get to the power-brokerage known as Washington, DC. But not the way you think. Their ugly side starts to show through. Reid was relatively poor when he was elected. He’s now a multi-millionaire. How does an elected official do that if they are supposedly at work doing what’s in the best interest of the state that elected them?
I think you are naive, sir. I think you are also altruistic. I think you have the unfinished mind of a high-schooler who cannot think beyond what your own emotions cause you to feel. There might be hope when, someday, you are hit in the face with either child-support payments or you lose your house because you lose your job, etc. But until then, you’d do better to observe rather than try to participate.
I further submit that you have no answers. I’ll go even further to submit that calling Heather a “conspiracy nut” doesn’t help anything at all. You would’ve done better to politely correct the numbers rather than going for the throat first thing like, say, Debbie Shculz does or how Harry Reid addresses others.
Finally, I don’t welcome you here. I think you do more harm than good with your version of rhetoric. You are neither helpful nor constructive. You personally engage people on a schoolyard level. I agree in that I think you should just leave unless you change your style. You are akin to the unwelcome visitor who comes in, soaking wet and sits in the nice chair, helps themselves to whatever’s in the fridge and then eats it in front of others, not realizing that was their last food in the house. I don’t like you at all. But then, you knew that.
You seem to have accepted there is no conspiracy which of course makes you one of the enlightened.
But we have been told, by powerful persons in politics, one touted as potential president, there IS A conspiracy. A “VAST RIGHT-WING CONSPIRACY. Of free Americans exercising their right to vote for whomever they choose to represent them in Government of, by and for the People. That conspiracy that just won’t go away members of which are more and more mouthy.
Those conspiracy theorists flagbearers N. Pelosi and H. Clinton are not the fruitcakes, the lunatics you mean, are they?
Who conspired to kill the for Americans in Benghazi?Who conspired to sodomised Chris Stevens? Etc etc…
When I was younger, I used to wonder how the Germans let someone like Hitler take power. Every time I read a book about it I would scream to myself “Couldn’t they see what was happening? Why didn’t they stop the Nazis?” Now I understand that no matter how much you tell people that what is happening will lead to a bad end, they don’t believe it until the jackboots are coming up THEIR stairs in the middle of the night. Then they will cry “But we didn’t know! How could this be happening!” But even for people like myself, who understand what is happening, trying to figure out what “something” I can personally do (other than voting, which obviously didn’t work too well) to stop “them.” For example, I just read on Breitbart about Dems getting “mentally disabled” people to the polls to vote for their guy. http://www.breitbart.com/Big-Government/2012/11/25/Democrats-vote-the-mentally-disabled
“This is not right! This must be stopped!” one thinks to oneself. But, OK, what is the next step?? Just blogging does next to NOTHING. We Pajama readers need to come up with ideas for concrete action before the UN begins controlling the internet. http://online.wsj.com/article/SB10001424127887324352004578136902821852508.html
AMEN!!!! Let’s get started. Ideas?
Why not put the media at the top of the list? So long as those people are controlling the flow of info, we are toast. Cancel them, refuse to watch their “news” programs, just dump them from your lives!!! Be sure to let them know the reasons for your actions. Then, see what it would take to petition the states to get rid of voting machines and return to paper ballots. Get that organized. Here are two concrete things we can do NOW. Thoughts?
Sen. Graham was looking for ideas on Greta Wire tonight: http://gretawire.foxnewsinsider.com/video/sen-lindsey-graham-wants-to-know/
Re:….” and the left (and most people, from what I can see) don’t care.”
It’s so sad to read such a statement….that people here in our American don’t care that the Personal Representative of the President of the United States is sodomized and murdered by Muslims in the Muslim country to which he’s accredited and assigned.
This Obama creature has a lot of explaining to get across as to why he and his “administration” did nothing to come the immediate aid of these officials acting on behalf of his own “administration” at Benghazi. Not so long ago such an event was an Act Of War.
Simply, don’t tell us there was a “miscommunication”, or some “lack/lapse” of communication.
I like to say at every opportunity that my first vote was for Dwight Eisenhower by Absentee Ballot while on active duty in our USAF.
Never, in all these years since then, have I seen such a total lack of background service, integrity, credibility and honor (I know….all old fashioned words…) in any of our presidents. Each of them, including the clueless and I believe well intentioned but inept Carter, had at least some redeeming credentials at some points in their careers.
Not so with this Obama who is an empty chameleon, a blankness, …..and remains dangerous. We question his birthplace and his education and his “affirmatively-actioned” ascent…… and yet a vengeful bare majority manage to engineer his election…twice.
What’s happened to us?
It’s not “us”, or rather “them” from your perspective, that has changed. It’s you. You’ve gotten older and more frightened of a country that is now younger than you and that you don’t understand as well anymore.
It’s not “us”, or rather “them” from your perspective, that has changed. It’s you. You’ve gotten older and more frightened of a country that is now younger than you and that you don’t understand as well anymore.
Right out of the Alinsky playbook.
Rule 11: Pick the target, freeze it, personalize it, polarize it.
You took his “us”, carved out a “them” and made it “a country that is now younger than you” so that he is the single, isolated “you” in your narrative.
Rule 5: Ridicule is man’s most potent weapon.
You tell him he’s old, frightened, confused.
Yell boo! and you’re done, General Tso.
left in this country all right — and I also understand the Gods of the Copybook headings. I guarantee you will also become personally acquainted with them before your life is over.
Not frigthened at all,just enjoying the show,never a dull moment!By the way,thanks for reelecting Obama,we greatly apprecite,at least we can be assured of four more years of fun.At least with him with laugh,jolly good show,”Fast and Furious” “Benghazi” and now,the “fiscal Cliff” is back on the front burner.A packed progamm,never a dull moment!Keep up the good work!Just stay tune for the next episode of the continuing sagaaaaa.
Each of them, including the clueless and I believe well-intentioned but inept Carter, had at least some redeeming credentials at some points in their careers.
Yes, I would have never guessed that I would look back longingly on the Carter presidency. Remember how people used to joke about his being a peanut farmer? Oh, would that Obama could run a peanut farm and make a payroll before becoming president.
From Wikipedia, for what it is worth:
Though Carter’s father, Earl, died a relatively wealthy man, between his forgiveness of debts and the division of his wealth among heirs, his son Jimmy Carter inherited comparatively little. For a year, due to a limited real estate market, the Carters lived in public housing (Carter is the only U.S. president to have lived in housing subsidized for the poor).
Knowledgeable in scientific and technological subjects, Carter took over the family peanut farm. Carter took to the county library to read up on agriculture while Rosalynn learned accounting to manage the business’ financials. Though they barely broke even the first year, Carter managed to expand in Plains. His farming business was successful. By his 1970 gubernatorial campaign, he was considered a wealthy peanut farmer.
But who is Obama?No one can tell nor say as all the documents are sealed.A first.What we do know is that he is a pathological liar.
Until the spring of 1973, nobody cared about the Watergate affair either. Only the Washington Post and its team of reporters, Woodward & Bernstein. They kept digging while everyone else were ignoring the story.
The reason why nobody cares about the Benghazi story is that this time, the Washington Post and just about every other liberal news outlet has decided that unlike Nixon, The First Black President ™ can’t be allowed to be damaged by a political scandal. What would happen to race relations in America then, oh dear, oh my?
The GOP is willing to take the political risk of continuing to keep this story alive. That’s no skin off your nose, is it?
No, it isn’t, and I really do support finding out what actually occurred. But frankly, most of the Republican side seems to be on a “blame x” jag, where x is Obama, or Hillary, or both, or someone in government, and so transparently obviously trying to use this to embarass the Obama aministration that the facts don’t seem any more important to them than to the left. I just want to make sure it doesn’t happen twice – leave the blame game until the next election.
Dead Ambassadors left to the tender mercies of al Qaeda for seven hours while the Marines sit on their arses two hours away tends to get on some folks nerves…
Apparently the left has no problem with terrorists killing gay Americans…
Read up on Diebolt voting machines and George Soros and how easy those voting machines can be spoofed even by cmmand.
“Leave the blame game until the next election”.
Impossible.
To remain, honest, principled and honourable as nation and people we must act while the iron is hot. By the next election things of less significance e.g the tanking of the dollar and the economy will be in full bloom to distract us from who’s to blame for fiasco after fiasco of our government of by and for the People.
With Watergate it was Nixon, the Satan, the most evil person to hold the Office of POTUS. Responsible for the Vietnam War and its dishonourable end, unfair attacks on “reds under the bed” in government, media and entertainment. And as Sign of his evil propensities not film star handsome and didn’t “give good speech”.
So as is wont warmonger, grind the faces of the poor, anti the little people big bad wolf George W. Bush is responsible. Name any act that brings the US into disrepute in the world and it’s the fault of George W. Bush. And it’s time Americans accept that unhappy fact. NOW won’t wait for the next election.
US Ambassador Christopher Stevens
Sean Smith
Glen Doherty
Tyrone Woods
A US consulate and CIA mission were attacked in an act of war that lasted over a period of about 6 hours, 4 Americans listed above were killed, a bunch of militia members also died, and you are concerned that we’re trying to “embarrass” President Obama! This wasn’t just a “boom” and it’s over terrorist bombing. A foreign military attacked US territory and got into a long battle using machine guns, RPGs, and a mortar. I would hope that he is embarrassed at how badly we screwed up. I say we because that was our consulate and our Ambassabor. I don’t know why we had people in such vulnerable position and I don’t know why we failed to send in the military to help, but we need to know what happened so we don’t repeat the mistake. We can’t just sweep Christopher Stevens, Sean Smith, Glen Doherty, and Tyrone Woods under the rug because the events surrounding their death were “less than optimum”.
Precisely, George. Preventing such an action from recurring is important, to protect our representatives and people overseas. My problem is that the right-wing has exploded with vitriol against the administration, conspiracy theories, “revelations” that are about as believable as wall-scrawl in a public toilet and accusations. All of which is having the effect of A)obfuscating the actual events to the point where getting at the actual truth has become much, much harder and B) turned off the general populace to the point of their saying it’s just another political beat-up, and thus ceasing to care. The people who ostensibly want answers are causing the problem.
That “dead horse” carcass could be you, Kevin.
Keep them blinders on, fool.
“At this point, it’s just whipping a dead horse.”
Gee when you put it that way – yeah – sure – lets just ignore it – forget it. Like most people ignored Watergate – until it became clear that something WAS going on that smelled wrong. But lets forget Benghazi since its only about 4 dead Americans – and one feckless president that could not be bothered to do anything for those people. Sure – sounds like a great idea. While we’re at it lets let Fast & Furious die too. Why not? And then there’s those pesky ‘work-arounds’ that Obummer has done to skirt congress. And some of the stuff Holder has done — and —- well – what the hell – why should we pay any attention to that crap? Because its against the law? Naw – not reason enough. You’re right – lets just look the other way…
Tell that to the family and friends of the four dead Americans. Tell that to our military and CIA with a creed of leave no man behind. Why do you think that the two ex-SEALs left the cover of the annex to go to the consulate and attempt to rescue the ambassador and Smith? Why do you think they exposed their positions (which cost their lives) to paint the target with lasers? Liberals are all the same, you think of yourselves, could care less about anybody or anything else. Stay out of my foxhole, I want a conservative watching my back.
At some point Islamic terrorists will detonate a poorly-made nuclear weapon in some US port. Luckily, most US ports are populated with progressives who think the threat is a myth.
Thus does evolution proceed. Buh bye!
Rice will not be SOS that is for sure. Patreaus has fallen. Hillary is sunk. Anyway, Obama won. Nothing else matters.
Ha, ha, good grief!……just who is this smug George Stephanopoulos to say:
““All the evidence is that Ambassador Rice was using the information given to her by the intelligence community,” host George Stephanopoulos told Graham.
We simply must not permit this Media B.S. to go unchallenged.
Agreed. I am heartened to see that when I review the comments on ABC and CBS sites, there are people who are challenging the meme du jour. Remember Benghazi!
Again, the question that should be asked, “What was the President doing on evening on 9/12/2012?” Thus far, no one in either House of Congress are asking this question. Was the President in the Situation Room during the assault? Did he have a front row seat (taken from the live drone feeds that are currently under lock and key) to the disaster? Exactly who in the WH was involved in the decisions that were made that evening. All other questions are just white noise. Funny, how the GOP Senators are asking all the questions but the right ones.
“All the evidence is that Ambassador Rice was using the information given to her by the intelligence community,” host George Stephanopoulos told Graham.
“I don’t believe that,” the senator shot back.
Typical. Just like you didn’t believe in evolution, or that human activity could alter the environment, or that Obama would win the election, or that a tiny minority of what Planned Parenthood does is perform abortions, or that the the vast majority of entitlement spending goes to old white people on Medicare, or that Blue states get less federal dollars than Red states, or that Obama is a Christian, or that Obama was born in the United States.
Of course you didn’t believe it, because you are a member of the GOP, a cult of no-nothing conspiracy theorists who sadly get all their news from Fox, PJ Media and internet chain letters. Of course you don’t believe anything that falls outside your airtight bubble of misinformation.
“All the evidence is that Ambassador Rice was using the information given to her by the intelligence community,” host George Stephanopoulos told Graham.
“I don’t believe that,” the senator shot back.
So Walter tell us. Who in the intelligence community told her there was a protest of the video which got out of hand? Or do you as a liberal still not understand that there was no protest. That claim was a complete fabrication. And why is it that the person responsible for that fabrication has not been fired?
Of course, it’s pretty hard to fire yourself.
Don’t be too hard on Walter. Most liberals I know are a tad slow on the uptake too. He’s still trying to catch up with those niggling little facts that get in the way of Feckless Won’s narrative.
Hey, go easy on Walter. After all, he’s a “no-nothing”.
Then what are you getting so upset about?
If you’re right, the GOP will end up embarrassed by pursuing a non-story. They’re willing to undertake the risk of keeping the story alive.
That’s no skin off your nose, is it?
Of course, if you’re wrong, then your hero, The First Black President ™ is going to find himself in the middle of a political scandal.
Game on.
….why are you so sure of saying, ” …..outside your airtight bubble of misinformation.”?
How would you know? Please explain.
Did you think that Romney was going to win the election, or that it was even going to be close, despite the overwhelming pre-election polling showing Obama winning comfortably?
Maybe you did, maybe you didn’t, but tens of millions of the residents of the right’s air-tight bubble of misinformation believed that comforting bedtime story right until reality woke them up on Nov. 6th.
The power of the bubble…
No General, we just hoped against hope that so many Americans were not really the blind, ignorant sheep that they appeared to be. We were wrong.
Around the world there is a strong perception that Romney won the election.This is based on the fact that people know that the Dems are stuffing the ballot boxes.They know about Acorn,how Al Franken was elected and that the bulletins cast by the servicemen are not counted.These are the facts.Inside the US there are only 350 million people you can fool themselves,lie to teach others etc etc.. but outside there are billion of people.What is quite embarrassing is that no American can answer any questions about Obama,as his records have been sealed.
I must object to the talking point that abortion is just a small minority of what Planned Parenthood does. In 2009, Planned Parenthood performed about 300,000 abortions, which at the time, was just about the population of Cincinnati, Ohio. From the pro-life point of view, or better IN TRUTH, that’s 300,000 human beings put to death in one year by Planned Parenthood ALONE. No amount of “other good things” that Democrats keep telling us Planned Parenthood does (services that could be obtained elsewhere), could ever justify funding them and the evil that they do.
“Typical. Just like you didn’t believe in evolution, or that human activity could alter the environment…”
Walter, what I know is that you think in stereotypes and speak only to repeat comforting but delusional “perception is reality” memes.
For example, I “believe in” evolution and that human activity “could” alter the environment: but the CO2 = CAGW hypotheses have not produced even one correct empirical result yet – no such CO2 = CAGW effect has been detected in the real world, despite predictions; therefore, the hypotheses are falsified!
But you don’t know that because you are only repeating the memes fed to you by a massive propaganda operation designed to control you by controlling your energy use.
Likewise, if you don’t want to know why Amb. Stephen’s, enc., security concerns were not addressed before the attack and why there was no help sent from regional response units to the consulate during the attack, you’re stuck with only repeating controllist memes; while your own security is progressively diminished on many fronts by the very people who you think are protecting you from us “no nothings”; instead of from the real threats they are thereby diverting your attention from, including them!
The Obama admin has been in office for 4 years now. Why have we had so many fewer terror attacks than we had during the Bush years even though “those people” have “progressively diminished” our security that whole time?
You are shamefully ignorant.
Though terror plots continue at pace, the number of Americans killed due to “radical islam” is significant Obama vs.Bush.
2009-Little Rock shooting, 1 dead, 1 wounded
2009-Ft Hood murders, 13 dead, 29 wounded
2012-Benghazi murders, 4 dead
Conversely, no Americans died due to terrorist activity during the Bush presidency.
Huh? Fort Hood. Times Square. Underwear. Brooklyn Bridge. Benghazi.
“Conversely, no Americans died due to terrorist activity during the Bush presidency.”
Holy Lord almighty, you can’t possibly be that ignorant. Can you?
Forgive me, I assumed you were a “truther” where the republicans were behind the WTC towers coming down the whole time. I mean, given your diatribes, it fits, doesn’t it? That is, by using your own “logic” that allows you to call all of us “conspiracy nuts”, no?
So a small error there. But after 9/11, there were no deaths of Americans due to terrorism. Look it up in your own leftwing operated Wiki if you like.
Sorry for the misunderstanding. But it’s your fault. I’m not to blame for anything that I say. It’s simply reacting to you that makes me say wrong things. So, you need to change. There, now, you should be able to understand that, right?
“But after 9/11, there were no deaths of Americans due to terrorism.”
Holy Lord almighty, you can’t possibly be that ignorant. Can you?
OK, please name them.
Specifically, those that happened to Americans while Bush was president.
I worded my statements very carefully. You are now obligated to prove it.
2001: Sept. 11, New York City, Arlington, Va., and Shanksville, Pa.: hijackers crashed 2 commercial jets into twin towers of World Trade Center; 2 more hijacked jets were crashed into the Pentagon and a field in rural Pa. Total dead and missing numbered 2,9921: 2,749 in New York City, 184 at the Pentagon, 40 in Pa., and 19 hijackers. Islamic al-Qaeda terrorist group blamed.
2002: June 14, Karachi, Pakistan: bomb explodes outside American consulate in Karachi, Pakistan, killing 12. Linked to al-Qaeda.
2003: May 12, Riyadh, Saudi Arabia: suicide bombers kill 34, including 8 Americans, at housing compounds for Westerners. Al-Qaeda suspected.
2004: May 29–31, Riyadh, Saudi Arabia: terrorists attack the offices of a Saudi oil company in Khobar, Saudi Arabia, take foreign oil workers hostage in a nearby residential compound, leaving 22 people dead including one American.
June 11–19, Riyadh, Saudi Arabia: terrorists kidnap and execute Paul Johnson Jr., an American, in Riyadh, Saudi Arabia. 2 other Americans and BBC cameraman killed by gun attacks.
Dec. 6, Jeddah, Saudi Arabia: terrorists storm the U.S. consulate, killing 5 consulate employees. 4 terrorists were killed by Saudi security.
2005: Nov. 9, Amman, Jordan: suicide bombers hit 3 American hotels, Radisson, Grand Hyatt, and Days Inn, in Amman, Jordan, killing 57. Al-Qaeda claimed responsibility.
2007: Jan. 12, Athens, Greece: the U.S. embassy is fired on by an anti-tank missile causing damage but no injuries.
2008: May 26, Iraq: a suicide bomber on a motorcycle kills six U.S. soldiers and wounds 18 others in Tarmiya.
June 24, Iraq: a suicide bomber kills at least 20 people, including three U.S. Marines, at a meeting between sheiks and Americans in Karmah, a town west of Baghdad.
June 12, Afghanistan: four American servicemen are killed when a roadside bomb explodes near a U.S. military vehicle in Farah Province.
July 13, Afghanistan: nine U.S.soldiers and at least 15 NATO troops die when Taliban militants boldly attack an American base in Kunar Province, which borders Pakistan. It’s the most deadly against U.S. troops in three years.
Sept. 16, Yemen: a car bomb and a rocket strike the U.S. embassy in Yemen as staff arrived to work, killing 16 people, including 4 civilians. At least 25 suspected al-Qaeda militants are arrested for the attack.
Nov. 26, India: in a series of attacks on several of Mumbai’s landmarks and commercial hubs that are popular with Americans and other foreign tourists, including at least two five-star hotels, a hospital, a train station, and a cinema. About 300 people are wounded and nearly 190 people die, including at least 5 Americans.
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The above is just copy-pasta and leaves far too much out. Of note, did you forget the beheadings of Americans Daniel Pearl, Nick Berg, Eugene Armstrong and others? Did you forget the four contractors brutally murdered and paraded around Fallujah? Did you forget about the DC sniper? Do you have any idea how many contractors and servicemen died to terrorist attacks during the Iraq war?
You don’t. And it’s because those dead Americans don’t fit the partisan narrative of the media bubble you have ensconced yourself in. Those dead Americans stopped counting the moment they became a hindrance for your team.
And that is how you can, without irony, say that “no Americans died due to terrorist activity during the Bush presidency” – one of the most stunning statements of ignorance I have come across in a long, long time.
Nope, not at all.
Just wanted to make you say it. I live in no “media bubble”. The media is decidedly left-wing and would ONLY report on those. Please now include the ones that have occurred while captain nobody has been in office, as reported by the media. You know, like the way they won’t call Benghazi terrorism because, after all, Al Queda is “on its heels”.
(We’re actually getting somewhere. I’ve been able to get him to respond the way I want)
So far, at least I’ve gotten you to admit that the roadside bombings are terrorist activity and not the result of some ethereal “Bush-caused, man-made-disaster”. Your anger and your certitude is working against you, sir.
So…tell me now again how our being in Iraq/Afghanistan is some “conspiracy theory” to rid the world of terrorism. I think you know the answer but please share.
Again…
Smile, son. Don’t disconcert the masses.
Can you do that? I’m sure you know how if you apply your simple cut-and-paste method to the ones that have occurred since obama has been president. Come out of YOUR media bubble and be fair, now.
You have captured the PJM zeitgeist with great accuracy Mr. Medilla. Dead Americans are the pawns you push in your games of partisan hackery. Just as the PJM frontpage recruited three (or was it four) writers of fictional military novels to invent fanciful and overwrought theories of Benghazi, just as the PJM frontpage photoshopped the faces of those four dead Americans into their lede graphics in a bid to drive their hit counts, so too are you ever eager to grab hold of the first flag-draped corpse you can find to flip for gain.
“no Americans died due to terrorist activity during the Bush presidency” indeed. That byline suits you, but it might suit the whole site even better.
And folks wonder why the R electorate is shrinking?
Typical socialist.
Once I explained the game, you figured you couldn’t win so you changed the subject.
And….failed to answer the demand that you tell us the number of Americans who have died due to terrorism while O-blame-less has been in office.
“Once I explained the game, you figured you couldn’t win so you changed the subject.”
Only one of us plays games with dead Americans, Mr. Medilla. Only one of us thinks they can “win” by invoking the names of the fallen.
Only one of us loves his country more than he loves his politics.
Back to name-calling and making suppositions that I’m playing games with the fallen. Typical re-direct. But you have no makings of an attorney.
I simply made it so you had to admit that it’s terrorist activity. Not some supposed imaginary foe dreamed up by some “vast right-wing conspiracy nut”.
I served for a long, long time in the military, mister. You are playing the wonderful game that leftists play called, “let’s make sure everyone knows he’s against his country by screaming it loudly and by using bodies as chips”.
Nope, not gonna work. You started it, you finish it. You are WRONG on so many counts when you deny that people are killed during Obama’s presidency and DUE TO same. Negligence, ineptness, inattentiveness, failure to do one’s duty.
So, if all those people were killed during Bush’s presidency, why do you have so much of a problem acknowledging those who have died during Obama’s? This is the fourth or fifth time you’ve ducked admitting it. What are you afraid of? The truth? Or is it the truth as you and only you see it?
Your narrow-minded wafer-thin “argument” that I’m using dead Americans so you can feign being a patriot isn’t working. I asked you a question, you won’t answer it and just like this crap-fest of an administration, you obfuscate, redirect, bring up a straw-man argument, call me names (albeit indirectly) and yet FAIL to answer the question put to you. Why?
People died during the Bush administration. I submit that you believe such deaths were directly his fault. I submit further that people died in Benghazi and that it’s completely the fault of this administration. You cannot have it both ways, slick. It’s not a conspiracy if they all died during Bush’s tenure then why is it a conspiracy when it’s during obama’s?
Answer the question. Don’t redirect. Avoid parallel points. Terrorism is very much alive and well and living all over the world, yes or no?
Terrorists killed FOUR Americans in Benghazi, yes or no?
The obama administration is directly responsible for those deaths by dereliction of duty.
You can try to pretzel-logic that however you like but you STILL cannot admit that FOUR Americans were left to die by this administration.
That’s not “playing games” with lives. The lives are already lost. It’s making a point and realizing what the truth is.
That is the game. Not the lives but the way you were ballet-dancing all around the logical answer and preferring to get caught up in semantics and quibbling over what the word “is” means.
You are a pedestrian. You are a committed leftist who hates this country because it’s not giving enough to those who deserve it. Well, who deserves it? Those who defend it with their blood and honor and who sweat, toil and reap the rewards of personal responsibility? Or, people like you who think that because you consider yourself so gifted that you decide who gets what?
The game was to get you to admit that the people who have been getting killed in the desert is terrorism and done by terrorists. Beyond that, this argument has nothing to do with playing games with people’s lives. You said that, not me.
Let me remember this thread for you Mr. Medilla:
I said that there have been fewer terror attacks during the Obama admin than there were during the Bush admin, a factually true statement.
You said I was shamefully ignorant, and quoted the three main terror attacks by Islamic extremists since 2009. You implied this proved me wrong because, and I quote, “no Americans died due to terrorist activity during the Bush presidency”.
After my prompting, you acknowledged that you had forgotten about 9/11, which you called a “small error” [!]. You then tried to play a semantic game by “carefully wording” a new statement – “after 9/11, there were no deaths of Americans due to terrorism” – that was still factually false, and glaringly so.
After my correcting you again, you – to your credit – felt a bit embarrassed and decided to play it off as a game. You were just shuffling decks of dead Americans for fun and fancy and you meant to make those ignorant statements all along.
After I called you out on the callousness of this pretend behavior, you backtracked once more, and now have decided to simply blame me for everything you yourself have done. I am playing semantic games!? You are the one who “carefully worded” a statement to try to thread the needle from forgetting 9/11 happened to something that could pass as a non-falsehood. It’s not my fault you failed at that task.
And after all that, after your pages of textual tilting at windmills, what have we learned? That the General was right all along, and that there indeed have been fewer terror attacks during the Obama admin than there were during the Bush admin.
And that, Mr. Medilla, is no “game”.
Yup, you win.
Good for you.
Hum hum forgot about Fort Hood.
We knew that Tyrone Woods and Glen Doherty were killed by a mortar shell at the CIA annex in the early morning hours 6 hours after our consulate was attacked and burned. We know that mortars are not associated with spontaneous protests. Mortars have to be transported and carefully aimed. We had real-time information via State Department channels during the attack, pretty good initial reports from the CIA immediately after the attack, drone video, and many survivors who witnessed the attack. It is not credible that whoever prepared Susan Rice for the Sunday talk shows didn’t know that they were deliberately trying to mislead the American people. What we don’t know is why so much effort was made to mislead the public.
It’s not “GOP Senators”, it’s really just Lindsay Graham and John McCain. Both of which, and especially Lindsay given his upcoming reelection bid, have a serious problem on their right flank. This is the perfect opportunity for them to toss meat to the hardcore right partisans, who at this time are still motivated more by their Obama derangement than any other policy prescription. It doesn’t even require them to do anything, just to appear on the Sunday talk shows and schmooze with the press while poking their fingers in the eye of the President.
It will work too, Lindsay is going to ride this to reelection.
Can they subpoena Valerie Jarrett?
But, you, Walter J. do believe all of these things? Ah, it must be nice to have all your thinking done for you by those of greater intellect with a broad range of experiences in the real world. You sure are one lucky fellow. Please come back and share more this nonsense. Walter J., what’s it like in that dark nether-region place you call home?
Do come back, please. We need reinforcing every now and then.
Calling Walter J
So Walter tell us. Who in the intelligence community told her there was a protest of the video which got out of hand?
Who created that lie out of whole cloth? Please Walter, tell us.
Tell us Walter. Who was that lie intended to benefit?
Just a little tip. Whenever you see the word “community” think “obfuscation.” Was it the CIA? The FBI? Homeland Security? The State Department? NSC? Who?? Pure obfuscation right up there with the use of the passive, as in “mistakes were made.” Make them answer the question in the active tense and without the word “community.”
US Ambassador to UN Susan Rice is being made the issue instead of Pres,Obama’s non-action action in a terrorist assault on US Consulate,Benghazi,Libya. Amb. was a willing participant in spreading premeditated prevarications for her ‘bosses’.Let’s not forget that Secr. of State HRC and Pres.Obama himself obstructing and bearing false witness -even at the UN for blaming a YouTube video clip of MB/State-Egypt ran versions in order to ‘stir the masses to protest; on 9/11 in Cairo. What was not known at the time of the terror assault,massacre of US Amb.J.C.Stevens and 3 other Americans was that the annex was a CIA Base. US Congress owes it to its ambassadorial/consular representatives to probe seriously into the Benghazi Affair-now Genghazigate in order to estop it ever happening again. In today’s world- there are instant communications-time to save Americans- but trying tyo sweep their gulpability under the media-sponsored rug should not be tolerated. They lied and people died,
Pravda is 1000% bought into the coverup.
This is no longer a free country. Speaking the truth is now officially a dangerous thing to do.
Speaking the truth online or in Gmail is already dangerous.
Too bad Jake Tapper can not replace George S.
Tapper’s no better.
Can we be honest?
Isn’t it obvious We have a lack of “intelligence” rampant throughout this Regime.
Is anyone taking their jobs seriously anymore?
We the People should do a hostile takeover of this cult, and fire 90% of the elected officials.
They are a complete and continuing insult to the intelligence of the American People.
– courtier.
Hillary Clinton Admits the U.S. Government Created al-Qaeda Published on Apr 10, 2011
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ifZK6SVlQ1Y&feature=related
The only problem is recorded history;
http://www.adl.org/terrorism_america/bin_l.asp
C.I.A. no al-qaeda ever existed – BBC documentary the power of nightmares
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cHAwbYpRGkQ&feature=related
“They had decided not to include the al-Qaeda reference so we wouldn’t compromise our sources in Benghazi and in Libya,” Durbin claimed. “…This has just been a dance-fest to go after Ambassador Rice. That should come to an end.”
No Mr. Durbin – the dance-fest has been on your side – Susan Rice made to dance like a puppet on a string – one more bit of the smoke-screen you guys are throwing up at every turn. Every effort has been made to obfuscate the truth. Too bad that smoke-screen the MSM has helped you morons erect is so thin that we see behind the scenes. Soon enough the truth will come out – the only one that really matters – the fact that a sitting US president sat on his ass and did NOTHING to protect over 30 American lives. Thank God there were 2 brave men that refused to do nothing and managed to save about 30 people from certain death. Sadly they gave up their lives in return. Our feckless president will be branded forever with this stain. Maybe we can call him ‘Old yellow Stain’ – or Capt Queeg? Makes little difference to me.
WHERE are those ~30 people whose lives were saved? WHY haven’t we heard one single word from any of them? Are they being threatened to keep them quiet? Surely, they have some info of value.
Sen. Rand Paul on CNN’s OutFront with Erin Burnett – 11/14/12
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B2RByu08iTA&feature=plcp
We dont need a new Secretary of State. We dont even really need a state department. Given the level of amateur service we have seen in the last 4 years, we could privatize the business of patents and save a lot of taxpayer money
The trolls are out and up front on this issue. Must be something they want to avoid.
The whole three-ring circus about the video, what Obama knew, what Susan Rice knew, etc., has been a brilliant distraction from the real issue: Why haven’t we retaliated? Why haven’t we bombed the Hell out of some Muslim or al-Qaeda targets to show them they can’t slaughter our citizens?
Obama, Hillary, et al. don’t want to retaliate on the Muslims. Thus they are happy to have a thousand distractions taking attention from the fact that Obama doesn’t want to defend U.S. interests against his Muslim homies.
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There lies and there’s damn lies then there’s Obama. From his BC to his autobiography to ‘Fast and Furious’ and ‘Benghazigate’ and his Affirmative Action facilitated document HIDDEN Academic career and qualifications not to mention his ‘Composite’ friends and girlfriends.
The USURPERS story is one big LIE from beginning to end and what is so sad is that a MAJORITY of naive , gullible , Entitlement Junkie and Black Racist Americans bought it hook line and sinker.
Exactly right. And why would anyone expect him to change since he always gets away with it. Move along, folks, move along. Baa, baa.
The most transparent administration ever? President Obama and his campaign team were in complete fear that if they told the truth about 9/11/2012, they would lose the election. How’s that for plain and simple?
SO is it possible that only Graham and McCain and maybe Dave Schweikert and Paul Gosar have the intestinal fortitude (OK Stones!) to call “O” on the carpet- Boehner isn’t going to do anything nor is Mc Connell. So much for the believe the founders had in a Republican form of government, those days are long gone. We have the most candy asses we have ever had in the political class in both houses. You idiots need to reread the constitution and live up to you duties.
You guys make me sick -you keep whining about the MSM and how they treat you! – F–K the MSM get on with you dam job!
Mildly upset check “6″
Tso.. nice try, bub.
Patricia Helvenston mentioning the $220 trillion debt is in accordance with the nation’s public sector pensions, collectively.
Your even defending Barack Kardashian speaks VOLUMES of your ‘knowledge’. Rulers, not elected officials appoint a myriad of ‘czars’ and other supposed ‘necessity needed’ personnel outside of Congress’ approval. Heck there’s audio of then-Senator Uhblame-O dogging the Constitution and its not mentioning, ‘..redistribution’.
Ms. Helvenston DIDN’T mention ‘Muslims ruling the world’ but putting the ‘IF’ in the same sentence prior whereas you ‘mistakenly’ didn’t note as such. Hmmm.
And her comment regarding radical jihadists, take a gander the number of times CAIR has visited the WH, Uhbama’s attendance at terrorist supporting Khalidi’s wing-ding, this administration initially wanting to try Gitmo prisoners in civilian court, ‘manmade disasters’, Uhbama giving shoutouts PRIOR to addressing the Ft. Hood terrorist shootings, the nonsensical accomplishments Uhblame-O tried to give the Mooslim world at Cairo University, NASA’s ‘Muslim Outreach’, read the empty suit’s autobio for more, champ.
Wow..
Not to mention Uhbama speaking of returning Israeli/ Gaza Strip border to pre-1967, his administration continuing to funnel monies to a screamingly obvious terrorist supporting ‘government’ in West Bank, giving the Muslim Brotherhood the thumbs up in Egypt’s Presidential and cabinet wins, snubbing Israel, Netanyahu altogether.. on and on.
Better yet, actually visit an ever-devolving Islamic country. Even a supposed ‘moderate’ country. You’d put your ignorance in check lickety-split.
Rice’s story also doesn’t make sense because, if that really was the best “intelligence” at the time, then why did Jay Carney, Hillary Clinton, and Obama continue pushing the video story for roughly two seeks after the attack, all the way up to the time Obama appeared on The View and at the UN? The administration was simply trying to deflect attention from the fact that they screwed up badly in Libya, especially with the election only weeks away.
Problem is, what is Congress going to do about it now? We now know that the ambassador in Libya asked for more security on several occasions prior to the attack and even on 9/11 itself, yet the State Department refused him. Also, why did we not have A LOT more military support for these people on the anniversary of 9/11 in such a dangerous part of the world? Even though this attack lasted for about 7 hours, there was nobody around to help them? There is a lot here for people to answer for. But, for some reason, I don’t think Congress is going to do much of anything. Remember, Eric Holder is still in Contempt of Congress. How’s that working out right now? Oh, that’s right, Congress is doing nothing about it. And with a mainstream media willing to carry Obama’s water for him to the very end, nobody is going to care about this in a month or two.
Of course it was a smokescreen. They (the liars themselves) know it. The “media” know it. We know it. So now the question is: WHAT ARE YOU GOING TO DO ABOUT IT? WHAT CAN WE DO ABOUT IT. Right. Nothing to see here, folks. Move along, move along.
You can state that we know “it’s a terrorist attack” without revealing sources. You can state we can see them on the drone feed. You can say that “we know… and we can’t say more.”
You can do that, unless you’re trying to cover something up. Apparently everyone knew it was a terrorist attack except for the UN Ambassador – she should have been briefed in additional to be handing talking points. If she didn’t, they could have gotten the same result by handing the talking points to an intern.
Supposedly Rice was given the dirty job to do as a tryout – I guess she failed in that.
Nah. She didn’t fail. She did exactly what the WH asked her to do. She is standing by the story. Carney et al are protecting her. She was doing the President’s bidding. The President–probably not directly but through Valerie Rasputin Jarrett or someone like that–told her that if she went on five talk shows on the same day and told the same absurd lies five different times, that she would become America’s senior diplomat, the representative of our country overseas, a major formulator of our foreign policy, and the head of the State Department. So, she cynically did it. And I am very afraid Susan Rice will be our next SoS. But me being afraid is worth bupkis.
Susan Rice, as UN Ambassador, had/has access to many sources of info. She could easily have checked some of her sources to see if the video story was accurate, or if there was more or newer information to the story. She didn’t do any of that. She played the ROBOT…just what we need at the UN.
Re: the “good soldier” theory
George Marshall was a good soldier. Susan Rice is a political sock-puppet.
So what pray tell, is the point? Every administration trots out representatives to lie for them. This is going nowhere fast, just like F&F, and is a waste of out time and energy. No one cares until the MSM makes them care.
The point is that in F&F and Benghazi PEOPLE DIED . . . including Americans. If people’s lives mean nothing, let’s just pack it in now.
When did Lindsay Graham grow a pair?! Last I heard, he said we shouldn’t offend moslems with our free speech truth by burning their hateful Korans: “I wish we could find some way to hold people accountable; free speech is a great idea, but we’re in a war!”
She got out five days after the attack, blamed the video and said that Al Queda had been decimated. That was an outright lie and was put out to further the talking points of the Democratic convention that had ended 5 days earlier, which was itself a lie. She wasn’t representing the country, she was on the campaign stump after four Americans had been abandoned by the U.S. and murdered by Al Queda.
What I want to know is…who sent who out to find a video that no one ever saw.
http://english.pravda.ru/opinion/columnists/19-11-2012/122849-obama_soviet_mistake-0/
I must be lost. Most pjm sites don’t feed their trolls.