The leadership of the Islamic Society of Greater Kansas City have launched an online petition campaign for President Obama to back a bill to limit the free speech of American citizens they deem offensive.
The petition states:
The undersigned Board Of Directors and members of the Islamic Society of Greater Kansas City (ISGKC) urges you to sponsor a bill that outlaws any action that may insult one’s religion. We utterly disagree with the violence that has taken place and the death of United States Ambassador J. Christopher Stevens and other members of the United States embassy staff in Libya. We support the apprehension and conviction of those responsible for such acts.
We understand the First Amendment (Amendment I) to the United States Constitution is part of the Bill of Rights and, as such, prohibits the making of any law respecting an establishment of religion, impeding the free exercise of religion, abridging the freedom of speech, infringing on the freedom of the press, etc., but when the allowance of “free” speech incites violence it should be banned.
The film behind the violence that is occurring in part of the Muslim world, “The Innocence of Muslims”, although it may be amateurish, its contents are very disturbing and insulting to the religion and has ignited an already volatile part of the world. The film is repulsive to the sensibilities of Muslims and offends the religion of Islam in multiple ways; by denigrating the seriousness of Islam, our Prophet and the Muslims in general. We believe that it would be in everyone’s interest to ban such actions from reoccurring.
Actions as such should not be tolerated as they are very offensive. The violence that has taken place as a result of this film is very alarming. As Muslims, violence of any sort is prohibited in our religion. Those people who are carrying out these acts cannot possibly call themselves devout Muslims as they are acting out of pure rage and not out of religious duties. We condemn the violence and feel that, in spite of the First Amendment of the U. S. Constitution, action may be necessary to pass such a bill or, at least, censure such actions in order to calm the current situation as well as prevent future re-occurrences.
American Muslims are hard-working, law abiding, and tax paying citizens. Everyone respects freedom of speech and the First Amendment in general, however, when freedom of speech results in defaming and insulting others and provokes the killing of innocent people, it should be outlawed. In light of the recent situation, the Islamic Society of Greater Kansas City hopes you may take up this cause and urge other representatives to do the same. We appreciate your time and efforts.
ISGKC Board of Directors:
- Board Member: Abdul Gafoor Akram
- Board Member: Raqibul Huq
- Board Member: Rushdy El-Ghussein
- Board Member: Dr. Mohammed Kohia
- Board Member: Russel Mohammad
- Board Member: Ibrahim Morad
Lest anyone think that the ISGKC board has gone rogue, a link to the petition is featured prominently on the group’s website, stating:
ISGKC is sponsoring an online petition to establish a law against insulting one’s religion. Please click the link below and sign the petition. Thanks for your support.
The position of ISGKC is particularly curious, and outright hypocritical, since they have hosted internationally renowned hate sheikh Khalid Yasin. When Yasin started his 2010 Kansas City tour, he began at ISGKC:
Sh Khalid Yasin started the tour with a Khutbah at the Islamic Society of Greater Kansas City (ISGKC) Masjid on Friday followed by a lecture, “The Challenges facing the Muslim family and community in America” after Maghrib prayer at the Masjid. The attendance exceeded all expectations with about 350 people for the lecture. The Sheikh stressed on the importance of the Muslim community in the west and how to safeguard themselves against the social evils that the western world offers to Muslims especially our youth.
Among Yasin’s positions:
- Yasin says that the US government was behind the 9/11 attacks. (“Khalid Yasin: The New Voice of Islam?” Sunday, October 9, 2005)
- Yasin claims that AIDS was invented at a US government lab and spread by Western governments through UN agencies and Christian missionaries. (“Khalid Yasin: The New Voice of Islam?” Sunday, October 9, 2005)
- Yasin advocates for the death penalty for homosexuality. (“Home Grown”, Sixty Minutes, Channel Nine, July 24, 2005)
- Yasin justified the terrorist bombings in Bali because of years of alleged Western oppression. (“Khalid Yasin: The New Voice of Islam?” Sunday, October 9, 2005)
- Yasin says that the Quran permits wife-beating and that equal rights for women is a “delusion” and “foolishness”. (cited in “Undercover Mosque”, Channel 4 [UK], January 15, 2007)
- Yasin calls the beliefs of Christians and Jews “filth”. (cited in “Undercover Mosque”, Channel 4 [UK], January 15, 2007)
- Yasin says that Muslims cannot have non-Muslim friends. (“Home Grown”, Sixty Minutes, Channel 9 [Australia], July 24, 2005)
- Yasin rejects any separation between Islam and the state and openly advocates for the reestablishment of the caliphate. (Sunday Nights with John Cleary, Australian Broadcasting Corporation, September 7, 2003)
- Yasin visited Jemaah Islamiah terrorist leader Abu Bakar Bashir in prison. (“Koranic TV next step for radial sheikh”, Sydney Morning Herald, August 20, 2005)
- Yasin has lectured with Hizb-ut-Tahrir hatemonger Omar Bakri Mohammed, who was banned from the UK in 2006.
- Yasin was in Saudi Arabia on 9/11 soliciting support from the Al-Qaeda front Al-Haramain Foundation, which was designated a terrorist organization in 2004 by the US government, to help finance his Islamic Broadcasting Company.
According to the ISGKC, making a 14 minute movie trailer, and anything else that provoke Muslim rage, should be banned despite the First Amendment protections because it incites Muslim violence. But endorsing the death penalty for gays and lesbians, as well as anyone else guilty of capital crimes under Islamic law, is a view embraced by the same group.
So far, the petition has 155 signers from Kansas City; Albany, NY; Orlando, FL, Annandale, VA; San Antonio, TX; Apex, NC; Broken Arrow, OK; Canton, MI; among many other locations.
Amazing — not a word about the responsibility to NOT KILL PEOPLE!!!
How about you muslims that don’t like our Constitution and Free Speech get out of our country and go back to caves that you came from? How hard is that.
These bastards come to this country because they want to escape the oppression and violence in their country and then they want to set the same law here in the US.
All immigration from any arab country should have been stopped 50 years ago, idiots let them in.
To John – your comment – These bastards come to this country because they want to escape the oppression and violence in their country and then they want to set the same law here in the US.
They didn’t come to escape….they came to invade.
“THANK YOU” I like my freedom.
to John: Before you call anyone bastards…look at yourself and see who many time your mom or dad been committed adultry and even may be your mom dont know who is your real dad. You are such a bastard…..never call any one as because you are nothing but absolute bastard.
Look at even yourself..how many time you Committed adultry and see your present wife may have done the same thing with many other..so…you are just a unwanted bastard.
Can we start a petition to ban idiots that are driven to violence by some un talented hack’s words?
That is right we need to put a petition to ban faggy media and its propagation and need to educate all of our nigar asses. Bull shit ignorant reddist dont know a solid shit about media…just beleive it as a pure pieace.
Dont you ass holes know that the media takes apple and make orange juices and take Orange and make apple juices and take orrange and appales and make bannana juices?
“but when the allowance of “free” speech incites violence it should be banned.”
Or, we could just ban the religion, Islam, the adherents of which commit the violence. After all, if we can mess with one part of the 1st Amendment, then I guess we can mess with another part of it. Let’s ban Islam.
Or maybe people could start reacting violently to Muslim offenses, then we could blame Islam for our violence and demand they get banned.
It’s a poor sword which does not cut both ways. Of course, they know we will do no such thing, so they feel safe. They, therefore, have nothing to lose.
Jefferson’s “Virginia Statute for Religious Freedom” is the clearest expression of the whys and hows of religious liberty in the American tradition, and in it, there is this:
“That it is time enough for the rightful purposes of civil government, for its officers to interfere when principles break out into overt acts against peace and good order”
Riot and murder are ‘overt acts against peace and good order’; Islam either stays inside the bounds recognized by the others faiths, or it finds itself on the other side of religious liberty.
How about a petition that muslims don’t act like monkeys?
This is going to be fun, in a good sort of way.
How’s that “Arab Americans as protected class” thing coming along at the DOJ?
Good question. It’s been delayed until AFTER the election.
End all immigration. Until you’re willing to back that this is losing game.
Ban immigration of muslims.
I say we start a petition to revoke the tax-exempt status for all involved parties. Religious institutions aren’t supposed to involve themselves in politicing. It’s time to separate Mosque and State.
I am outraged by the Burka, the beating of women and sex with underage girls, but I don’t think they will pass a law forbidding them.
Apparently there are a number of Muslim jihadi residing in America that may have questionable loyalty to our national welfare. Maybe they should be considered a twenty-first century version of the German American Bund and treated as such.
“We understand the First Amendment (Amendment I) to the United States Constitution is part of the Bill of Rights and, as such, prohibits the making of any law respecting an establishment of religion, impeding the free exercise of religion, abridging the freedom of speech, infringing on the freedom of the press, etc., but when the allowance of “free” speech incites violence it should be banned.”
Wait, let me fix that last part….”but when the allowance of “free” speech incites violence, those perpetrating the violence should be arrested, and prosecuted to the full extent of the law.” There, that’s better…
Exactly to the point.
This plan to limit free speech is part of “the project” conceived by the muslim brotherhood. Do your homework then tell your friends.
Let’s see, a film that follows the Koran and hadiths about Mohammed’s life is “repulsive to the sensibilities of Muslims and offends the religion of Islam in multiple ways; by denigrating the seriousness of Islam, our Prophet and the Muslims in general.”
I agree! So, can we ban the Koran and hadiths that this film was based on?
These people are IDIOTS.
This is not a petition from the KC Islamist Society, change.org is using their name to post another petition. Also, please – whatever your thoughts on this, go to the site and read some of the names who have signed. It’ll tickle your funny bone.
Actually, as the article points out, the ISGKC website links prominently to the petition in question. They certainly approve of it, if they really didn’t start it themselves.
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M. Malone:
Last I read it, the prohibited (in advance) allowance of free speech to allow violence was screaming “FIRE” in a theatre. I’m old; betcha you young guys know more than me.
Moore,
This is more like someone yelling “fire” in an empty theater 2 months prior and then someone else using it as an excuse for anything.
Fact is, that trailer was a barely viewed piece of obscure nothing that a bunch of sociopaths used as a cooked up excuse to get cowards like you to give up free speech to appease those who will never be happy until we are all cowing before their every outrage.
We already have a president who has no particular love for the Constitution, we don’t need to give him or anyone else inroads to dismantle the most important facet of that document.
And if these people don’t want to live with our 1st amendment intact, they can go live somewhere else that is more suitable to their beliefs.
GO back to where you bloody well came from! Muslims are violent and and want to put to the sword all infidels. Look up Beslin siege and see how murdering 100′s of children is a crime of the century next to 911. Sick religion that deserves ll Muslims to be put in camps till they are deported. Muslims and democracy cannot exist. Toronto 18. London Subway bombings. Railway bombings Spain. 911
So if the muslims want to outlaw free speech that is offensive to religion will that also include muslim attacks against Judaism such as comparing Jews to apes and
pigs.
Somehow I have a feeling that this is not the intent of their petition.
By no stretch of the imagination does a murdering cult like Islam deserve any kind of protection.
Americans protect your constitution.
States and localities have tried to ban blasphemy or sacrilege from time to time – there is a SCOTUS case as recently as the 1950s – but the courts have always held them unconditionally unconstitutional.
The 1st Amendment doesn’t protect incitement to violence, but incitement must be direct to be criminalized – “Go burn that embassy now!” Just because a bunch of hypersensitive barbarians don’t like cartoons or movies doesn’t mean the creators have incited violence. It means that violent criminals look for any excuse to commit acts of violence.
If our Constitution inconveniences their tender sensibilities, why not go back to the third world hellholes they fled to come here in the first place. There they can burn Christians, beat their wives, mutilate their daughters, and rage all day and night without fear of interference.
The imans have a simply great idea. Obama needs all the help he can get to identify the terrorists and haters in our midst from the Islamic jihadist army. Every name on their petition should be placed on the no-fly list. Better, just deport them to Cuba.
Muslims are offended by EVERYTHING that isn’t Islam… So they’ll just try to outlaw everything because they’re offended. I say we get a petition that says muzzies shouldn’t act like primates!
Looking over the signers at the petition most seem to be panning this petition and all it stands for while telling Muslims to grow a thicker skin and stop with their own insulting execrations against Christians, Jews and the West.
This is shaping up to be and epic FAIL!
Free speech does not incite violence… people who hate free speech incite violence. No one is forcing anyone into violence except those who are looking for an excuse to do so.
Some Muslims in Kansas are upset? Gee, we can’t have that. They might riot. I mean, we can’t expect them to stay peaceful just because Americans are armed and very ticked off at them, can we?
I suppose I should stop advocating the expulsion of all Muslims from Western Civilization. Though I would have thought calling for the nuclear destruction of Benghazi ruffles more feathers.
Whoops, sorry, here’s the correct first link.
It’s very entertaining to read all the outrage expressed here by the “freedom fries” warriors. The fact is that unlike the “Eurotrash Eurabians” Americans will eventually succumb to Islamisation.
Let’s stay factual. We are now a few years after 9/11 and we have an openly Muslim sympathizing pres. that half of the people really adore as if he were a cult leader.
In Europe there are legitimate parties opposing Islamization, I refer to SIOE (Stop Islamisation of Europe) movement.
Similar open protest or movement is unthinkable in the U.S.
All you can do is to vent your frustration in obscure blogs while the nation inexorably moving toward post Christian, pro Islamic “New America”.
Majority of Americans are afflicted by various “guilt” complexes, they are afraid to “offend” anybody who is not white, so the chest-thumping patriots congregate on forums under fake screen names.
Whomever had the courage to speak up, like Glenn Beck, S. Palin, or M.Bachmann will be silenced and removed from public sphere at once and nobody dares to stand up for them. Am I wrong?
Yes, you’re wrong.
Please elucidate as to what is not factual in my post.
I listed facts. How ’bout you?
Can Europeans openly protest with signs denouncing Islamisation? Sure they do.
Dare to do it in the U.S.? Yes or No?
“Please elucidate as to what is not factual in my post.”
Okay.
“In Europe there are legitimate parties opposing Islamization, I refer to SIOE (Stop Islamisation of Europe) movement.”
That’s it.
“Similar open protest or movement is unthinkable in the U.S.”
This is not fact. This is an assertion.
“All you can do is to vent your frustration in obscure blogs while the nation inexorably moving toward post Christian, pro Islamic “New America”.
Majority of Americans are afflicted by various “guilt” complexes, they are afraid to “offend” anybody who is not white, so the chest-thumping patriots congregate on forums under fake screen names.”
This is not fact but assertion. Not to mention being liberally seasoned with argumentum ad hominem.
“Whomever had the courage to speak up, like Glenn Beck, S. Palin, or M.Bachmann will be silenced and removed from public sphere at once and nobody dares to stand up for them.”
This is not fact but forward looking prediction.
So we have one arguably factual statement about certain anti-islamist parties in Europe (while totally skipping any mention of the pro-islamist parties that exist there as well) and a whole bunch of opinion-mongering about the US masquerading as what would be “factual” in some parallel universe.
“Am I wrong?”
Yes. And that is my professional opinion.
The truth will be known on November the 6.
If “The One” wins again – I was right.
If he loses you were right.
“As Muslims, violence of any sort is prohibited in our religion. Those people who are carrying out these acts cannot possibly call themselves devout Muslims as they are acting out of pure rage and not out of religious duties.”
Really? What about the people Muhammad had murdered for simply insulting him? The following are but a few of the actions of Muhammad, taken from his earliest biography by Ibn Ishaq.
A group of Jewish rabbis laughed and scoffed at Islam and the Muslims. Muhammad ordered them ejected from the mosque, whereupon some were dragged from the mosque by the hair on their heads and given a severe beating.
Muhammad ordered the killing of two girls, Fartana and her friend, for singing songs of a satirical nature about him.
Another young girl named Sara was mercilessly trampled to her death by a mounted soldier dispatched by Muhammad after she insulted him.
A woman named Asma bint Marwan was brutally murdered with Muhammad’s full knowledge, again for writing poetry deriding Muhammad. Muhammad solicited from among his men for someone to kill her, and one of his men volunteered. When told of the murder the following morning, Muhammad said “two goats will not butt their heads over her death.” This woman left five sons as orphans. According to other accounts of this same incident, the soldier who killed Asma first removed a suckling infant from her breast before plunging his sword into her.
Muhammad gave thanks to Allah when the head of one Abu Jahl was delivered to him. Abu Jahl’s crime was making a mockery of Ibn Mas’ud, one of Muhammad’s followers.
Ka’b bin Al-Ashraf composed poetry of an insulting nature against Muslim women. For this deed, Muhammad solicited from among his men volunteers to kill Ka’b. They lured Ka’b into the night for a friendly discussion, and at a suitable place killed him. Ibn Warraq adds that Ka’b’s head was delivered to Muhammad who praised their good works in the cause of God.
And we are somehow surprise when Muslims today emulate Muhammad when they perceive he has been insulted? And Muslim leaders want us to believe this has nothing to do with Islam? Please … spare me the crap.
Are the bullet points at the end muslim beliefs or Pat Robertson? I’m certain I’ve heard at least some of those expressed in his writings and televised diatribes. Unfortunately, I have to acknowledge his right to spew his hatred, as I also acknowledge others rights to espouse their beliefs. It doesn’t matter that both Christians, Jews and Mulsims are all fundamental self deluded morons.
As I already stated, the reason for the embassy killings and violence are to take our First Amendment rights away from us. These peop le need to leave America. What they preach is traitorous. Just look at the list of what this leader believes. His beliefs are un-Constitutional. Freedom of speech does not include the freedom of a religion that doubles for another for of government & preaches for our destruction.
F U and go back home if you don’t like our Constitution and FREE Speech
Blaspheming against the Holy Spirit is unforgivable, Jesus will not forgive you in this world nor the next world, that is the law. Only Jesus can give the death sentence for this and no one is allowed to act over His Head, that is the law. God gave His only begotten Son to save the world and He rose after His death and went back to God, because He is God and the Holy Spirit is given to mankind as a Comforter, and we are all using It without realising It, like free water, air and sun. The Holy Spirit is Life, It is Jesus and It is God, It is One and the same thing, it is not three separate persons as we have been told, the ‘jesus’ prescribed by Lucifer, is what the public only seem to know. It is not possible to have three gods, there is only One God and He has a Name. No person can ever be second in charge to God, who is Jesus, it absolutely impossible, there is no such thing. He is The Great Creator of all things as He speaks things into existence by The Spoken Word, the utterance of His Word, because His Word Is God. This settles all confusions. It is logic, all human beings should be respected as they are made in God’s own Image, and to hurt them or hurt yourself you are hurting God. The human race is required to live by Jesus’ laws which is Moses’ laws He gave to Moses. And He came to fulfill It, anyone can read It there and see for themselves how He made It better, how Jesus fulfilled the laws as mankind was busy growing up, so it is no secret that the Jesus Who came to earth through a virgin birth is under God’s Office of omnipotence and we are all saved by His Blood as Satan got defeated when Jesus rose up from the dead, which means there is no question about It, He is God Almighty, and Satan no longer has a claim on any soul, which Is extraordinary for a sin cursed human race that refuses to listen, we are required to repent as prescribed by God Who came in ‘disguise’ so we can receive Eternal Life, which means your soul can never die and you live Eternally with Him. God made a promise to Abraham and due to His promise it gets delivered which is also extremely extraordinary as the human race is lifted up, and part of that promise was to provide a Saviour so sin can end. Free Speech is receiving Jesus as your personal saviour and a new Spirit is put inside you and your old spirit leaves you. Free Speech is confessing your sins to one another with your friends and in your fellowship group and forgiving one another in the presence of The Lord and asking The Lord to forgive the errors you made and it cleans out the air, resulting in principalities and powers in the air not being able to work through a vessel that will hurt you, as it is bound by The Word of God and cannot enter a person as that person is fully aware what to do and what not to do. It results in a crime free society, where there is peace, love, joy and happiness among all. Denying that Jesus is The Christ, i.e. God Almighty, is anti-Christ and the anti-Christ forms part of the living dead and their own laws made keeps society bound and not free that is why the whole earth is a spiritual basket case. Alien religions to God ends when God ends it. God’s laws are Life and It is untouchable we are required to live by them even if you are just one person who knows or two of you who knows. His provisions given is as clear as crystal, just follow them as the 2000 year Grace period blends into Eternity where the saved are safe and free from harm. The Islamic laws provide for killings of anyone who refuse to convert to a Muslim, this religion is clearly a fraudulent fear factor problem, similar to “Christianity”, and people who practice it should remain in the desert as it keeps the soul a desert, and the two go together, and everybody knows it will never last forever as it is a proven failure as the whole world can see for themselves, same with “Christianity” where Satan disguised himself deceiving the whole the world !!!!!
Anybody who thinks this film is the real reason the ambassador got killed really needs to study Islam and its history to include the significance of 9-11. This is really the 3rd 9-11 for the followers of Islam.
1. Part of the motivation of Islamic terrorists is to reverse the trend of decline in the Islamic world relative to Western culture that many trace as far back to September 11, 1683 when a large Turkish army was humiliatingly crushed by Europeans at the Battle of Vienna.
2. September 11, 2001. Which is the one most people think about.
3. September 11, 2012. The followers of Islam are using this film as the excuse for attacking our embassies and killing U.S. Ambassador J. Christopher Stevens on the 11th anniversary of 9-11 and 3 other Americans. Islam ” The Religion of Peace “. This video has been up on Youtube since July so don’t kid yourself that the attacks on 11 Sep 2012 were not timed for that day. Let the spin to minimize the teachings of Islam begin.
Can Islam get along with the West ? NO.
” Listen, and understand! That Terminator is out there! It can’t be bargained with. It can’t be reasoned with. It doesn’t feel pity, or remorse, or fear. And it absolutely will not stop, ever, until you are dead “. ~ Kyle Reese in Terminator.
Islam has been conquering places Terminator style since the 7th Century and their goal is to get rid of everybody else. Look at what is going on and you can see it is that way. They do not assimilate in any Western society. They get along until their numbers are great enough to take over. It’s been that way since their prophet left Mecca and went to Medina.
http://blogs.telegraph.co.uk/news/edwest/100178337/can-islam-ever-accept-higher-criticism/
There is no excuse for the murders these animals committed. The United States government current administration’s policies and actions coddling Islam following countries is just going to get more innocent Americans killed. People can try to claim that Islam is ” The Religion of Peace ” all they want, but anybody that follows the Quran and things written in Medina and afterwards are only trying to conquer the world. The Reality of their actions show the truth in regards to the 7th Century lifestyle hiding behind the cloth of religion. Where Islam goes and Sharia Law is followed, Freedom goes away.
“ An appeaser is one who feeds a crocodile, hoping it will eat him last “. ~ Sir Winston Churchill.
Your or anyone else will never take our free speech away, remember it’s “We the People”, who will be in charge once again. You can take your junk back to where you came from.
@ Jim:
So Jim do you think that you and your great great grand parents or even their great grand parents didnt came from somewhere else. You are full of shit. Its all about time laps buddy. May be your generation came 200 years ago and may be we came 50 years ago. after 200 years our grand kids will never deny their roots. You alreday forget your roots. Shame on you..unless you are a INDIAN Tribe
Shit….if you dont like you may take your ugly ass out. This is also our country. Dont give me wrong…you guys are nothing but pussy and get propagatted with bullshit media. Dude get some education and then be justified.
I really dont have to say a damn thing here, everyone has already said it anyway…you don’t like it here, get the hell out!!!
If it has anything to do with Muslims I don’t care to waste my time to read it.. Welcome
to AMERICA… IF YOU DON’T LIKE IT HERE GET OUT… TAKE THE REST OF THEM WITH YOU….
lol for someone who really dont care u sure took the time to leave a comment
I wish I could say that this would never happen but with a muslim in the White House… Mayhap this is a worthy enough cause for me to get on Change.org and create a petition to bar this shite from being accomplished.
LOL Islamic Society of Greater Kansas City petition bill limit the free speech of American citizens they deem offensive toward any religion will never pass, American does not limit free speech, any groups, organization, or any type of religious group who wants to limit free speech let me be correct deny someone free speech base on the fact that some one does agree or r offend by some one point of view regardless of how ignorant it sound, is itself declaring war on the U.S Constitutions.
LOL Islamic Society of Greater Kansas City petition bill limit the free speech of American citizens they deem offensive toward any religion will never pass, American does not limit free speech, any groups, organization, or any type of religious group who wants to limit free speech let me be correct deny someone free speech base on the fact that some one doesn’t agree or r offend by some one point of view regardless of how ignorant it sound, is itself declaring war on the U.S Constitutions.