House Oversight and Government Reform Committee Chairman Darrell Issa (R-Calif.) sent a letter to the panel’s Democrats today, telling them that they need to contribute to a greater level of civility in the HHS contraception mandate.
Sandra Fluke, a third-year Georgetown Law student, appeared before the Democratic Steering and Policy Committee on Feb. 16 after Democrats complained that no women testified at an Oversight hearing on the mandate (Issa reminded the panel’s minority members that they walked out before Dr. Laura Champion and Dr. Allison Garrett testified).
Radio-show host Rush Limbaugh called Fluke a “slut” and a “prostitute” over Fluke’s support of copayment-free birth control. Oversight Committee Democrats, led by Ranking Member Elijah Cummings (D-Md.), wrote Issa on Thursday asking that the chairman “strongly condemn” Limbaugh’s statements.
“As the Chairman of the Committee that first attempted to silence Ms. Fluke and prevent her from testifying, you are in a unique position to speak out now on her behalf and to join us in condemning, in the strongest possible terms, this very public and very malicious attack on all women who share her views,” the Democrats wrote.
Issa fired back with a two-page letter today noting that Democrats have appeared “outright giddy in attempting to distort the testimony offered and the purpose of the hearing.”
But the main purpose of his response was to issue a challenge to the panel’s Democrats.
“While your letter raises important concerns about these inappropriate comments and the tone of the current debate over religious freedom and Obamacare, I am struck by your clear failure to recognize your own contributions to the denigration of this discussion and attacks on people of religious faith,” Issa wrote. “To help restore the civility of this discussion, I propose that you join me in a broader condemnation of the attacks on people of faith, the false and incendiary claims made about this Committee’s efforts to examine the threat to religious freedom, and the regrettable personal attacks that have come from individuals on both sides of the issue.”
Issa also noted that witnesses from his hearing and his staff — “particularly female staff” — have been subjected to “intense and disgusting accusations and insults — ‘hag,’ ‘traitor,’ and numerous references to anatomy” by phone callers.
“While I have no control over outside voices, I and other Republican Members of the Committee have not engaged in the personal smears against Ms. Fluke,” Issa said.
He reminded Democrats that they had the standard opportunity to offer witnesses at the hearing, requested two, and the customary single witness for the minority was invited. At the last minute, Issa said, they withdrew the chosen witness and wanted the other one — Fluke — to appear instead. “This last-minute request to add a non-clergy member to the panel could not be accommodated, and the minority instead chose to politicize the situation and use it to raise campaign cash,” the chairman wrote.
“While I do not agree with many comments that have been made during the effort to examine the constitutionality of Obamacare’s mandates on individual freedom, including the ones by Mr. Limbaugh, I find your narrow focus on this particular comment to be self-serving and dismissive of other inappropriate comments and attacks on Americans of faith,” Issa wrote.
Issa also tweeted the letter Friday evening: “Will @OversightDems join me in restoring civility in discussion of @HHSGov mandate? Americans deserve better: http://t.co/ZC08vacD”
Issa wants to restore civility? That from he who had an all male panel to discuss what is and isn’t appropriate health care consumption for women? Perhaps we should have an all female panel discuss what conditions are appropriate for the dispensation of Viagra prescriptions. Personally, I believe any Viagra prescription should be justified via a cardiac stress test and a tranrectal ultrasound. We need to get in there and see what’s really going on to make sure they really need the prescription and they’re not just sluts looking for some sex.
You guys stepped in it big time. Worse that stepping on a hornets nest …
Only women speak for women and only blacks speak for blacks? Is that right you little PC twit.
“Perhaps we should have an all female panel discuss what conditions are appropriate for the dispensation of Viagra prescriptions.”
Why not, if they are qualified physicians. And the issue before the Committee was not “dispensation” of contraceptives, but whether the federal government should mandate that all insurance provide it free of charge. Even Catholic institutions provide insurance coverage for contraceptives when there is a therapeutic need.
I’m sorry that you do not see how the utility of providing preventive medicine free of charge ultimately translates into saving everyone money. You’re welcome!
“preventive medicine free of charge ultimately translates into saving everyone money.”
I have an idea. Pay for your own hobbies and I’ll pay for mine. That is very fair to me.
It aint “medicine” its “lifestyle drugs” they want, on someone elses dime
Hint(s):
Pregnancy isnt a disease
Get your own Boner
Potheads arent intellectuals.
Time to grow up kiddies.
Cookie jars empty.
Actually, whether preventative medicine (never mind “for free”–will you libs never learn, nothing is free) “ultimately translates into saving everyone money” is up for debate. Screening for cancer and other diseases, for example, can save money, but only when just the high risk population is tested. Screening the general population results in net costs. Actuaries say “free” contraception at best is cost neutral. If handing out free contraception really could save insurance companies money, wouldn’t they have started doing it a long time ago, no mandate required?
At any rate, neither Ms. Fluke nor anyone else is entitled to free contraception nor even entitled to demand it.
Furthermore, contraception isn’t preventative or any other kind of medicine, it’s contraception. Meant to prevent conception. Which is not an illness or a disease. Contraception allows sex to be recreational. Accordingly, Ms. Fluke is not asking that others pay the freight for her health care or her medicine, she’s asking that they pay recreational costs.
Throw them in the ocean. Contraception is not preventative medicine of any sort. Contraception is, by definition, poison. That is, its intended function is to cause a disease called infertility. The definition of a poison is a chemical agent that causes disease.
Contraception is NOT medicine in the least. Or is a cell phone a necessity. The unending string of converting everything and anything into a “right” is a liberal sickness.
I don’t see the “utility” either, but that’s just me. I’ll be first on board though to start paying for the democrat freeloaders when scientists finally perfect the pill that cures stupid. There’s a huge market for that drug on the left side of the aisle.
“Perhaps we should have an all female panel discuss what conditions are appropriate for the dispensation of Viagra prescriptions.”
Why not, if they are qualified physicians. And the issue before the Committee was not “dispensation” of contraceptives, but whether the federal government should mandate that all insurance provide it free of charge. Even Catholic institutions provide insurance coverage for contraceptives when there is a therapeutic need.
I think this remarkable young lady speaks just fine for herself, actually. Her parents should be VERY proud. Keep on bashing her …
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oVQra9fS5dI&feature=share
Bashing her?
Ya mean BANGING her…
“I’m an elite college girl, and I need no-consequence sex covered by someone elses earnings, because, like, eeewww, why cant I?”
Proud?
My kid would find herself suddenly paying her OWN tuition, if she ever said something as selfishly arrogant as that.
That’s really funny and right on: self-pity is an addiction of the Rainbow Coalition and self-reliance seen as some weird cult.
Love it.
Nothing like a spoiled rich white woman telling the very working-class families that she’s bashed as ignorant superstitious bitter clingers for years that they need to take on thousands of additional dollars a year in bills so she doesn’t have to pay them.
And then having Barack Obama, instead of telling this brat to grow up, get a job, and take responsibility for her action like these working-class folks have had to do, is threatening them with jail if they don’t pay her bills.
If Obama and his fellows weren’t so convinced that all women are lazy idiots that will do whatever you say as long as you allow them to commit infanticide regularly, he wouldn’t be making these sort of dumb mistakes.
But when you consider what women Obama surrounds himself with, it’s not difficult to see why he did.
I also love the irony. Ms. Fluke states that it’s costing her $1,000 per year to pay for contraception,,, hummm, let’s see; condoms cost about a dollar each, at that rate this girl is having sex on average 2.7 times per day. Better yet, she can take birth control pills for about $15-50 per month and risk STD’s for about $600 per year and can have all the unprotected sex she wishes. Maybe she can get her sex frequency up to better than 10 times per day.
Does anyone else see how Rush came about his “slut” comment?
To JBTX: yes.
This “remarkable young woman” cannot earn enough money to buy a condom – and yet, you believe her parents should be proud of her.
Simply amazing.
If this 30-year-old’s parents can afford Georgetown law school tuition perhaps they should also be expected to fund her ample contraception expenses.
Incidentally, the Obama girls are approaching college age. Given the demonstrated earning potential of both Obama and Michelle should taxpayers fund their kids contraception needs to the tune of $3000/year?
Umm, you sound like a bot. The article just said two women were on the ”all male panel’. Nice spin about contraception and early abortion induction medications… none of which I’m not against people having…. Call me a ‘right wing’ wack job for it.. Actually; you will. But at least the 80 % of the country that are not left wing loons will see you’re the one out of the mainstream…
And almost ALL women use and support contraception coverage. Your on the wrong side. You will lose.
Well, don’t be so smug. I, and many women who do not like the idea of artificial birth control, for the reported health hazards (read the labels), do not use them. And I have never been pregnant. So for you to say most, is something I would like you, and all the others who quote this, to give some proof. I resent being spoken for and am not sure how I can gain a voice when the loudest seem to get the mike.
Most medications come with side effects, so you will get no argument from me on that. Moreover, if I were a woman I probably wouldn’t use birth control on a regular basis. I’d just abort it if I got knocked up. I think it’s safe to assume the overwhelming majority of women have used it, however. That would seem to be beside the point, though. People should have access to the medical products and services of their choice regardless of what you or I may think of them.
They HAVE access….go out and BUY the shit.
Its not about access, its about subsidizing their party time.
I’d just abort it if I got knocked up.
Well, aren’t you admirable. So modern, so with it, so progressive. Yes, abortion is sooo much better than risking side effects. Because, you know, it’s no biggie and has no associated risks or possible repercussions and your body, after all, is your temple. You must be an admirer of Whoopie Goldberg, so proud she is of her nine abortions.
The pill costs between 15$ and 50$ and is widely available.
Condoms cost about a buck each and in some places are free. Also widely available.
So access is not so difficult.
Having priorities is apparently. Water > Food > Shelter > Work > Other Stuff
Other stuff means videogames, knife collecting, gun collecting, SEX, and essentially any elective hobby. Fun comes AFTER work. And if you lack the funding to do a particular activity you DO WITHOUT.
Really? You mean Whoopi actually got banged nine times? Maybe even more than that? I don’t believe it.
That’s an amazing statistic though.
I support you paying my mortgage. So what? You’re using several fallacies in that one line… hint; they start with appeal.
This is one of the problems with bringing healthcare into the political fold; that people like you will make arguments like this…. while the sick get thrown under the bus to pay for populist wedge issue stuff like this… while earnestly proclaiming to be the moral superiors of everyone else… ugh…
Women who support coverage for this can also almost all afford their own contraception. There are many charities to help those who can not. I give to a couple btw.. I think the private free clinic system in this country is a great thing. Not just for free contraception and STD treatment; they help people with whatever health problem they have if they walk in.
BTW; stop trying to be such an uptight housing hater and pay my mortgage! Stop denying me my home rights. You wingers are out of control…
No all women don’t. And men don’t either and if it’s paid for with my tax money I get a say as well.
Big whoop
Almost ALL women would want LIPSTICK covered if you offered it…
And shoes, gawd, dont leave out SHOES!
Just cause someone (or everyone) wants something for free, doesnt make it right.
Wow, there is an awful lot of posters using the EXACT same language on all the sites. You will lose. Wow, is that the talking point they gave you paid for trolls? Not working.
My wife and I pay for our own, thank you very much.
“Sandra Fluke, a third-year Georgetown Law student, appeared before the Democratic Steering and Policy Committee on Feb. 16 after Democrats complained that no women testified at an Oversight hearing on the mandate (Issa reminded the panel’s minority members that they walked out before Dr. Laura Champion and Dr. Allison Garrett testified).”
Try reading the article first.
Like I said no women testified.
Dr. Allison Dabbs Garrett, the senior vice-president for academic affairs at Oklahoma Christian University. According to the mainstream media, she doesn’t exist. Neither does Dr. Laura Champion, medical director of Calvin College Health Services testified at the Republican meeting.
Go check the facts, not the talking points
She is a paid for troll. They are paid to spout the exact same talking points and when their idiocy is proven, they leave. What do you think Obama is spending his money on? They have little boiler rooms with software set up computers that create false identities. They have been working on it all this term.
Abstinence Is Preventitive Medicine
Paying peiople NOT to have sex is as justified as your simplistic arguement
And a shill testifying does not represent anyones views other than this corrupt administrations
Attention talking points commenters:
In the panel discussion about religious freedom, there were two women:
Dr. Allison Dabbs Garrett, the senior vice-president for academic affairs at Oklahoma Christian University.and Dr. Laura Champion, medical director of Calvin College Health Services testified at the “all male republican meeting”.
TANSTAAFL.And pregnancy is not a disease
I don’t wish to seem cynical, but I wonder if you would be equally upset if it had been Snoop Doggy Dog talkin bout that white rich bitch hoe deserving free drugs to go to law school, cause if we don’t give the bitch somethin for the itch she’ll do the nasty anyway? If she had been black and complaining about law school getting in the way of getting laid and other entitlement vicissitudes among the George Town oppressed, I wonder if Rush would still have his job?
The all male panel you refer to had to do with religious rights; it was not about the use of contraception, but rather about the problem of forcing religions to participate in this.
Wrong Lib. Are you another confused same sex loving..a..MALE, or a FEMINIST man hater? Either way, you must know by now, you are considered by civilized people, a LOSER. In case you were not aware of this, let ME, be the FIRST to state” YOU ARE A LOSER. Have a nice day confused!
Cynical – apparently you don’t read too well! It was NOT an all male panel.
Your side still doesn’t see, does it, that every time you guys leave the leftnut plantation and come trolling on serious debate sites, you give 6 or 7 of our stalwarts the chance to hone their skills.
I am not a Limbaugh follower and I think he went a bit overboard when he called Ms. Fluke a slut. Females expecting support for sexual issues should have gone to non-Jesuit schools. The Catholic position on birth control has been known for many years. Obama is not going to change that long-held attitude. Females expecting free birth control had the option of attending other law schools, many of which are as prestigious as Georgetown. Ms. Fluke is lucky that she has a ‘public interest’ scholarship. Probably we are paying for that also. I think she should have begun acting more personally responsible at a much earlier age. We older women were just so happy to get ‘the pill’ that we would never have complained about its cost.
Yes; and women attending law schools should be able to afford a pack of condoms.. or stop by a free clinic and pick them up… not that I am saying it is their responsibility only… obviously the other party is also supposed to help with this detail.
I am sure if Ms. Fluke had to buy her own contraception she could, but that is really beside the point. The larger issue is regarding gender equity and how a health insurance company treats its female policy holders. Maybe I’m weird, but I believe they should be treated equally to their male counterparts in that they should have equal access to the medical products and services they require and need.
It’s not about any of those things to people in reality land. It is only connected with those things in progressive double-think land. But anyway; keep talking. It helps prove my point…
Housing hater.
Youre also the freeloading liberal type that would expect his car insurance to cover tires, oil, wiper blades, fuses and lightbulbs…
As long as someone else was paying, that is
When I hear idiot buzzphrases like “gender equity” it’s a nice heads-up that the speaker doesn’t know how to think, but just regurgitates whatever nonsense they earnestly hoovered up while absorbing the correct social opinions from Slate or HuffPo.
Try sparking your brain into some activity for a minute and riddle me this: how exactly is “access” to contraception restricted for one single person in this country?
What do insurance companies, or employer policyholders, provide the male “counterparts” for “free”? Once again, this is not about access. Contraception is widely available and even widely available at no cost to the contraceptee. This is about demanding that someone else pay the freight. Contraception’s not a right; it’s a product that someone has to pay for. That someone is properly the user.
Gender Equality you say. Come back to me when the Federal government spending on Breast Cancer research isn’t two to one to prostate cancer, even though more men are diagnosed each year with prostate cancer than women are breast cancer. When there isn’t a seven to one ration of medication for treating breast cancer as opposed prostate cancer, you can speak of gender equality. When the NFL starts putting baby blue trim on their gloves and cleats for all September games, we can talk about gender equality.
And pregnancy is a male health problem.BTW insurance plans do not cover recreational viagra or testerone replacement therapy.
What are you, some kind of conservative?
Why, you’re letting facts get in the way of the narrative!
Hey paid for troll, do you get free condoms with your trolling or just cash?
The original purpose of the hearing was to discuss the legality and propriety of jamming Progressive morality down the throats of Catholic institutions, by mandating contraceptive coverage for the insurance policies they buy their employees.
Ms. Fluke and you are trying to advance that position by changing the subject (and have gotten the media to help you).
Compared to secular Taliban like those promoting this trampling upon freedom-of-conscience, priests and preachers look like libertines during Mardi Gras when it comes to jamming one’s morality down our throats.
Unlike you, lefty idiot, I’ve actually been involved in managing a healthcare plan and negotiating the benefits that it provided. ‘Course, since you’re demonstrably a lefty idiot, it is unlikely you’ve run anything.
I doubt there is a plan in the Country not provided by a religious employer that doesn’t provide for prescription contraception where it is medically necessary. I suspect even some of the religious employers provide a prescription benefit for contraception where it is medically necessary. Since you idiotic lefty punks alway like to compare BC pills to Viagra, at least technically Viagra is prescribed to treat a medical conditions. Granted, some Doc will prescribe it for the asking, but some Docs will prescribe “medically necessary” BC pills for the asking, and lots of Docs will prescribe or perform an abortion “to protect the mother’s health” for the asking.
Contraception qua contraception is not a medical treatment and there is no medical reason for using it. We’re just being asked to pay for people’s sport screwing. There’s just as good an argument for mandating that HI provide no co-pay coverage for buying a whore from time to time when a man concludes that it would make him feel better and the cost is inconveniencing him. But then you’re a lefty and you’ve always been told that lefties are smart and whatever you feel strongly about is true. One day soon the sane people in this society are going to conclude that we can’t afford the luxury of maintaining all the useful idiots in this Country. Then you’ll find out what “you’re going to lose” really means.
Go to the “clinic”? Are you serious? With all those yuckky lowlifes down there? I am in Geaogetown Law for gawds sake!
I wouldn’t drive my BMW in that neighborhood, let alone park there.
Ha! Good one.
And the correct response to that attitude is, “You don’t have a right to steal from me because you’re too proud to beg.”
cynical wonder clearly didnt bother to read the article, or educate him/herself on the reason for the hearing. So since there is a problem with voiding the first amendment to your satisfaction, you wish to hold hearings on viagra? You wish to have cardiac stress tests and a transrectal ultrasound as payback for not forcing churches to violate their doctrine and provide free birth control? I’m sure in your head that all sounded so clever. Sad that this passes for thinking on the left.
Well, since you went there. Viagra violates my personal religious beliefs. I feel, just as the Catholic Church does with regard to contraception, that Viagra interferes with gods plan. Erectile dysfunction is gods way of making sure that particular DNA isn’t past on. And who are we to interfere with gods plan, right?
Bottom line: Insurance companies will treat their male and female policy holders equally with regard to accessing medical products and services. Preventable products and services are mandated by the ACA. They can skirt the requirement by doing what Bob Jones university did and set up and administer their own plan. Outside of that they have to obey the law like everyone else. They don’t have a right to dictate the terms of what an insurance policy will cover, especially if it is paid for with her own money. That is what they are trying to do. They want to dictate the terms of an insurance policy that is required as a condition of attending the university, and then dictate what that policy will cover. And don’t anyone say she can just go buy a policy somewhere else. If you have attended college you know very well that the university policy is quite a bit cheaper than going out on your own and it should be. Forcing women to look elsewhere puts an unfair burden on them that their male counterparts do not have to deal with.
“Forcing women to look elsewhere puts an unfair burden on them that their male counterparts do not have to deal with.”
How unfairly burdened will Ms. Fluke be when the prestigious law school she’s planning to graduate from decides to close it’s doors rather than violate the church’s position against providing her, or anyone else, with insurance that includes contraceptive coverage? The bishops have already warned, if the administration doesn’t back down from this arrogant edict, of that very eventuality happening just two lenten seasons from now. Think it can’t happen?
“Well, since you went there. Viagra violates my personal religious beliefs. I feel, just as the Catholic Church does with regard to contraception, that Viagra interferes with gods plan. Erectile dysfunction is gods way of making sure that particular DNA isn’t past on. And who are we to interfere with gods plan, right?”
Fine by me. As far as I’m concerned, when you found a business, grow it, actually employ people, and decide to offer health benefits, the choice is yours on whether you want to pay for erectile dysfunction pills.
But if we were to apply your liberal logic, your refusal to do so means you hate all men and want them to die.
Fortunately, you’re a liberal, so there’s no chance that you would ever actually found a business in the first place. That would require you to do more than cash a welfare check, and as you and Ms. Fluke are making clear, that’s really all you’re capable of doing, other than rutting like goats.
Viagra treats a disease; contraception causes a disease. The former is medicine, and the latter is poison.
They don’t have a right to dictate the terms of what an insurance policy will cover…
They most certainly do have the right to dictate the terms of the policy when they’re paying for that policy. They have the right to reject any policy that doesn’t suit them. You seem to think we’ve conceded to government the right to dictate to any employer what kind of insurance he must provide or even that he must provide insurance at all. Well, we haven’t. And we won’t. Repeal of the odious ACA is still very much our goal and a majority of the nation supports that. In fact, it’s kind of ridiculous to even debate the finer points of ObamaCare. Mostly because, there aren’t any.
“I’d just abort it if I got knocked up”
“Erectile dysfunction is gods way of making sure that particular DNA isn’t past on. And who are we to interfere with gods plan, right?”
May I suggest that pregnancy might also be part of God’s plan? Make up your mind.
I suspect a brief voir dire would accredit you as an expert on erectile dysfunction.
“…Fluke’s support of copayment-free birth control.”
You should clarify “Fluke’s support of FEDERALLY MANDATED copayment-free birth control”.
A prescription at Walmart is $9 per month. Fluke said it would cost her $3000 during her carrer as a student. What BS.
Yeah, a prescription for the pill at WalMart may be cheap, but Miss Fluke prefers to use condoms. And her need for $3000 worth of condoms proves just how slutty she must be.
I chose to exercise my constitutional right to keep and bear arms while in college.. It “cost” me thousands of dollars to travel to Class-3 Machine gun friendly states and fire a .50 caliber Browning M-2 every month.
I demand the taxpayers support my constitutional rights
Pay up Liberal Wonder
Contraception may be available for $9/month at Walmart, but Wal-Mart is a hostile environment for members of America’s “progressive” elite like Ms. Fluke. They might have to actually associate for a while with working-class residents who aren’t illegal aliens.
if this were a mandate for something just for men, no matter how great it is for all mankind, you would not even be having this discussion. already there are hundreds of government handout programs for women and ‘special’ groups. anybody find out which handout program this future lawyer is already on? she need only have a child out of wedlock to unfold the world of college handout programs. one among many.
What is being discussed here in not a handout program. Ms. Fluke pays for the policy herself, not you, not the university. The university merely provides access through a contract to a market based provider.
“What is being discussed here in not a handout program. Ms. Fluke pays for the policy herself, not you, not the university.”
Actually, Fluke has stated that she doesn’t want to pay ANYTHING for coverage at all; she wants us and the university to pay the bills for her.
She wants a handout. She doesn’t want to pay her bills. She’s a welfare addict.
Federally mandated co-pay, wonder boy….
What part of “federal” do you not get.
And while we’re at it, where in the constitution is the Federal Government charged with dictating the particulars and minutia of health care insurance coverage options?
Why are they even discussing it at that level?
Can you say “inappropriate micro-managing”
And you still don’t get it. It is a mortal sin to knowingly facilitate a mortal sin. A Catholic pharmacist is not only forbidden from dispensing contraceptives, abortifacients and suicide pills, but also from referring a customer to someone who will.
This is a false flag operation and an irrelevant distraction from Americans fundamental interests.
Rush is an entertainer and a blowhard–he makes a lot of money–good for him
Americans fundamental interest is to not attach Iran and to end all handouts to foreign nations.
America needs to preserve our blood and treasure and invest the money we hand out to aliens nations at home in the USA.
Enough is enough
“….as the Chairman of the Committee that first attempted to silence Ms. Fluke and prevent her from testifying,….
GOP house members should give Rep. Cummings exactly what he demands. Bring Ms. Fluke before Issa’s committee, put her under oath, and ask her to repeat the testimony she previously gave. Then demand that she justify her claims and subject her to questions from Issa’s committee.
As a law school student, Ms. Fluke should welcome the chance to give a public legal defense of her statements. It will be an invaluable educational experience for her to give a public explanation of just how she incurs $1000 per year in contraception costs.
Her testimony will be nationally televised, so it’s her chance to shine. How many law school students ever get that opportunity?
If given the chance I think she would handle herself quite well. What are they scared of? I dare them to let her testify. Sandra Fluke is poised and articulate young lady, she can rise to the occasion. She’s been groomed well.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oVQra9fS5dI&feature=share
“She’s been groomed well”
She BETTER be, if she needs $3000 for condoms
Of course she is groomed well. She’s a 30 year old agitator who joined a school just to challenge their policy and passed herself off as a 23 year old victim to gain sympathy from myrmidons like you. Does that hook in your cheek hurt all the time, or just when you’re being fished in by the party line? Obama called her because she’s displays all the characteristics of a good community organizer. He was probably offering her a job.
Good for Issa. Never accept the left’s terms.
And be prepared to accept the consequences of that decision, which, not surprisingly amounted to stepping on a big fat hornets nest. BIG mistake …
Yup.
Nothing like letting the American people see a rich white woman attending a school whose tuition costs more than most of them make in a year demanding that they pay her bills for her because she doesn’t want to do it.
Nothing like letting the American people watch a rich white woman in designer clothes who works for an insider-trading multimillionaire Congresswoman demand that poor and working-class families have their health care costs raised to cover her thousands of dollars a year in condoms and contraceptives.
Nothing like letting the American people watch a rich white woman whose record of utter contempt for them, their religious beliefs, and their education is out there demand that they be forced to take money out of their budget so that she can spend hers on fancy clothes, DC townhouses, and political contributions instead of paying her bills.
Nothing like letting the American people who have worked hard, scrimped, saved, and made tough choices to get where they are at be told by a rich white welfare case that they need to pay her bills because she’s too lazy to get a job and work.
So good a description, I cited it over at the Daily Caller …
http://dailycaller.com/2012/03/02/calling-a-woman-a-slur-is-wrong-unless-you-really-dont-like-her/#comment-454684062
Note … you may have to scroll around, to see it — it was in response to a Re-, er, Progressive taunt that drew a lot of replies.
Yes, how DARE anybody STAND AGAINST THE MARCH OF PROGRESSIVE HISTORY.
Anyone who even THINKS about disagreeing with a bloated federal nanny state DESERVES to be crushed under its jackboot!
“Sandra Fluke, a third-year Georgetown Law student”
She can afford an expensive law degree, yet can pay for contraception?
For reality challenged progs who keep saying no women testified (cut from article above):
“(Issa reminded the panel’s minority members that they walked out before Dr. Laura Champion and Dr. Allison Garrett testified).”
So we are claiming no women testified because the dems walked out first? Yes; some people are. Typical of the left.
Now contraception needs to be covered co payment and deductable free as a matter of ‘equality’… over you know, all those medications sick people need.. umm like me; I need a non generic heart med but I have to pay out of pocket every year to meet my deducible…. heck, priorities man. Sick people who need meds and have insurance or… you know some kooky left wing meme of the day that claims failure to pay for something is denying it. You can tell where the compassionate left is going to fall on the issue. They are such frauds…
There was no hearing after the Democrats walked out, so whatever patch job Issa tried to initiate didn’t accomplish its intended goal. No women were represented on the panel. I’m not the only one who shares this opinion.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oVQra9fS5dI&feature=share
You murdered your parents ergo you really are an orphan. Got it… your a total 100% tool cynical blunder. But keep talking. It only proves my points.
Best of all: Barack Obama could not find the time in his busy schedule to call the parents of servicemembers killed in Afghanistan this week who made the ultimate sacrifices for their country.
But he could find the time to call a lazy rich white girl who is too irresponsible to pay her own bills and is demanding that other people be forced to pay them at gunpoint — and declare how proud her parents should be of her for being a complete dependent and forcing other people to pay for her sexcapades.
Priorities. Obama ignores the soldier and worships the welfare addict. Obama puts those who ask what they can do for their country last behind those who demand that their country give them everything without their having to lift a finger.
Too bad opinions are worth absolutely NOTHING!
Hey paid for troll, you are like a kindred spirit of Flukes, you like to get paid for your testimony. Tell me, how much do you think Fluke got paid? Or was she promised a position in government of the Democrat controlled media?
what about covering some real healthcare like toothpaste?
The young lady’s tuition costs more than the average American worker earns in a year. She is not yet a contributing member of society — although I’ll give her a LARGE benefit of my doubt and assume that she may one day be. At this point in time, without question, she is a pampered person, no matter who is footing her bills.
How could anyone come to the conclusion that I should be helping to pay this person’s birth control bills?
I will happily pay for her Pill prescription, if she signs a contract guaranteeing that she will never, ever procreate. /s
She’s a liberal, in training to be a lawyer. A contract wouldn’t suffice. As I said below, if anyone wants to set up a fund to get her spayed, I’d be tempted to donate (but then I’d have to go to confession afterward).
Rush Limbaugh still owes Ms Fluke an apology. Ms Fluke is not a prostitute. She is a blackmailer. She’s saying that if we don’t pay for her sexual activity she might become pregnant and need an abortion, and we had better pay her contraception expenses because her abortion(s) will cost us a lot more, besides killing fetuses for which we will share in her guilt.
Fluke is a sociopath. She’s shown that she’ll do and say anything in order to get her way and that the consequences do not bother her in the least, even though these could be quite harmful to the poor and the people who need medical care. She knew when she applied to Georgetown that Georgetown wouldn’t cover contraceptives when used for sexual activities and she admitted to the fact that oral contraceptives are covered by Georgetown’s insurance policies for legitimate medical problems like ovarian cysts.
She’s exactly what one would expect in today’s militant feminist and she has shown that she’ll lie through her teeth in order to force religious people and organizations to lose their religious freedom. She deserves to be strongly condemned publicly.
Que the overweight, 60 plus, white male response now. Can you be anymore cliche?
I’m sorry to learn that you can’t address the points I made and that you’d really like to be able to do so but can’t, Brian N…
It’s funny – when Bill Maher called Laura Ingraham a slut on national television, I don’t remember any impassioned defense of Laura’s honor by Cynical Wonder. Maybe I just overlooked it . . .or then again, it might just have been hypocrisy.
People, that Cynical Wonder, is a paid for troll that goes around the internet posting inane comments. She pleads, she conjoles, etc, etc.
No one with an IQ above dirt is falling for this crud.
Cass Sunstein wrote the plan to use worthless people to do this. In the last election they actually had a Palestinian based network doing it. This time they have little troll armies all over doing it. We are paying for them to do it, how messed up is that?
The left has been using our labor for decades to fund their very takeover of our society and we let them do it.
Clearly no one read Fluke’s testimony. She discussed the need for birth control in non sexually related instances. You people are deluded, and will all be confused when you loose the general election. All you need to do is look at your own comments to realized why the republican party cannot win this general election. Only a few people here actually condoned the statements put forth by Rush. You people keep pushing further and further right of your own political beliefs, and further into the past. The fact that Issa did not just condone the language used by Rush is further proof, that your political party is doomed this election cycle. You people are old and do not really get why your party will loose, and that is sort of sad in of itself. If one person making these ridiculous comments is under 40 I would be amazed. Think about the fact that almost all of you are retired, and what that says about your political beliefs.
For all the folks saying “this is about non-sexually related instances” of contraceptive use: Does that really hold any water? Are we really hashing back and forth over this because the legislation was written in a way that clearly communicated that every institution should provide “non-sexually related” contraceptives? I’ve heard some emotion-laden comments (here and elsewhere) about cysts, depression, etc., but it would seem, then, that if that were really the point, it explicitly would NOT pay for “Plan B” type things, condoms, etc. Have we all been snookered into aruing about a non-issue? Or, more likely, are evil and disengenuous people using a small sub-set (if it’s a large subset, please provide some statistics) to try to justify choice-based problems?
If I were a betting man (and I am), I’d bet that if it were the university said “hey, we’re find with paying for any non-consenual sex-related medicine that is legitimately to treat diagnosed medical disorders” these pro-Fluke folks would still kvetch about how unfair it all is.
And while I suspect that many aspects of the coming election will be rightfully characterized as “loose,” I’m not sure that the word is being, generally, applied properly.
Of course, since I criticized what we can generously call a typo, “loose,” I doomed myself to hitting send with one in my response. Irony can be pretty ironic sometimes! Fine/Find…
http://pjmedia.com/tatler/comment/314420/
There are a LOT of under-40 people who will see it as NDT describes at the link.
And many more of us who see it as one of many assaults upon our liberty, by those who think they “know better”.
Next, you’re going to tell us not to trust anyone over 30?
Been there, done that … didn’t like the result. Wisdom doesn’t have an expiration date.
Limbaugh (and his defenders here) seem to be asserting that no one should have to pay for the health consequences of other people’s lifestyle choices.
There are two things wrong with this argument.
The first thing is that an ounce of prevention beats a pound of cure. Many unmarried women are going to continue to have recreational sex. That’s now part of modern culture and it’s not going to change (sorry Rick Santorum and Kathryn Jean Lopez).
So you have a choice. You can pay a little bit for her birth control now–or you can pay a lot more for her pregnancy later (which is more expensive, especially given the possible risks of pregnancy like ectopic pregnancies and eclampsia). Do you really want to tell women that if they have sex and get pregnant, you don’t want to pay for a safe healthy pregnancy either?
The second thing wrong with it is that society already made the choice to pay for the consequences of other folks’ lifestyle choices. That ship sailed long ago:
If you drink alcohol to excess and get cirrhosis of the liver, insurers will pay for that treatment and pass the cost on to policyholders in higher premiums.
Ditto if you smoke cigarettes and end up with lung cancer; everybody else will pay for your cancer treatment.
Ditto if you eat fatty foods and wind up with heart disease as Clinton did; society will pay for your triple-bypass or quadruple-bypass surgery.
And that’s the way it ought to be. The alternative is truly fascist: Forcing a healthy lifestyle on everyone by economic leverage.
That could really backfire.
Michelle Obama and other far lefties could say to us “Why should we pay for your cholesterol-lowering statin drugs? You should become vegans.”
Cynical Wonder states above in a thread that she objects to Viagra on religious grounds and makes an argument that erectile dysfunction is going against Nature, God, and Darwinism in her mind. Not being able to get it up = no reproduction = it’s part of the plan.
Using that logic and your argument about the risks of pregnancy, aren’t Preclampsia and Ectopic pregnancies just God’s way of thinnning out the weak?
I’d welcome Ms. Obvious freakin’ troll to address this.
I would personally support that “mandates” be “mandates to offer” with a right to charge more based on the risks of any “mandates” selected. Thus if I choose to smoke and/or overeat (am obese),I would pay more for coverage relating to the added risks they occasion. It is past time that the citizenry learn about and take responsibilities for their own, if you would, perversions.
Well following the logic of the collectivists, it is a wise investment to pay for prenatal care, because that child is, in all likelihood, a future taxpayer.
Good point, but I don’t think you’re taking into account that Sandra Fluke’s child would almost certainly be a liberal; she’d pay lower taxes and then she’d vote Democrat.
No, I don’t want my First Amendment rights to be violated here, but dangit I’d sure be tempted to donate to a private fund that would pay for her getting spayed.
Or maybe the responsibilities of being a mother would cause her to grow more conservative.
So you have a choice. You can pay a little bit for her birth control now–or you can pay a lot more for her pregnancy later…
That argument is a non-starter. If distributing free contraception (before or after the fact) were an actual money saver, insurance companies would have been doing it long ago, no mandate required. Actuaries conclude that, at best, it’s cost neutral. In any event, the Catholics are perfectly willing to offer insurance that pays for her pregnancy (even should it occur out of wedlock).
Forcing people to pay for coverage … including coverage that tramples on their deeply-held beliefs about the value of life … as “pennywise” may be softer and cuddlier … but it is still fascist.
People need to take responsibility for themselves, then help out those who can’t help themselves … instead of outsourcing their responsibility/resources/authority to the Federal government to make things happen FOR them.
The same government that seeks to mandate contraceptive coverage, can prohibit your doctors from saving your life in the name of “cost-effectiveness”, if we continue to cede such power to them.
As a hardworking woman I resent ANYONE telling me I should pay for their rampant recreational sexual activities!
That this apparently “promiscuous” female and/or representative of “promiscuous” women assumes that her absurd testimony should generate free support for her/their recreation is incredible.
The premise that these women’s competition with the “ladies of the night” should be received with respect, credibility and rewarded is astonishing!
In my book, she has jolly-well earned her attribution. Its fine with me for folks, including Mr. Limbaugh, to call them as they see them!
Its about time humanity retreat to a greater respectability and sense of responsibility for themselves. For one, I don’t want the government to try and give me plunder they have forcibly taken from other hard working people for specious purposes. I don’t want them exercising the strings that their carrots would bring into my life, should I foolishly accept their bait. A Government master directing my life for the greater good is a poison to be avoided.
As for the example Flake(y) gave of the student with the ovary issue, they should have pursued this with the Student insurance carrier. In this case the issue was a prescription to address treatment of physical pathology. It apparently did not have any relation to a desire to engage in Responsibility Free Recreation or a pursuit for better grades from Professors.
Ms. Flake, cohorts and perhaps society as a whole (depending on whether Flake and cohorts simply emerge as hard left agitators) might be better served, if these progressive activists spent their time focusing on their studies and the fiscal implications of a Nation’s support for a Socialist style “Ruling” Governance.
I’ll support this woman’s right to have sex on my dime as soon as the Governemnt gives me a fully-loaded, brand new, Chevy pickup truck to me for $3,000 (the cost of this woman’s contraceptives). Hey, if I’m going to pay this woman to have sex for fun, then I want the government to supply me with some fun too, in the form of a new, really cheap, truck. See how that works, you Democrats out there? You make me ill parading this poor wench in front of the country as your best defense against taking away Freedom of Religion. Pathetic.
Limbaugh thought we should get a return on our money for paying for Sandra’s recreational sex, some videos or something. It was humor, though the language was strong.
Her so called testimony has “plant” written all over it.
Georgetown law per annum tuition is something like $40,000, living expenses, books etc. are on top of that=$65,000/year
Sandy can’t afford a box of condoms ?
Did Elijah get his shorts in a wad when the C word was publicly used to describe Sara Palin or the T word to describe Laura Ingraham ?
Obama (trying to distract from the real issues Barack?) calling this girl as she was about to go on the air with Andrea Mitchell is truly funny. I guess liberal women need their big, sympathetic male protectors, spewing sympathy (which happens to be between sh!t and syphilis in the dictionary)
What a psychodrama.
Rush was wrong in suggesting Ms.Fluke is a prostitute. She is nothing more than an overenthusiastic amateur.
With great time, closing out a segment, Rush said…
“The president called her, but I’m waiting for Bill Clinton to call her.”
timing not time
If you want to fight your battles with name calling over birth control, you will lose, because it is guaranteed to lose the middle for you. Rush doesn’t care, because as long as battles are being fought, win or lose, he wins. Too many of you don’t care either, as long as you get to call a spade a spade…or a slut. The reason you usually lose the middle is because you don’t know how to play it. Most women would tell you that birth control is more important than Viagra. O’Reilly was especially lame on this topic last night. He was careful to avoid the s word, but, but he and you just cannot get around the fact that birth control is now considered a basic part of health care by the vast majority of American women.
At Gettysburg, Lee thought that the Federals’ center was weak, but he found out otherwise.
http://pjmedia.com/tatler/comment/314420/
Methinks you may be misjudging how the “center” will read this.
This is an issue of basic fairness, and freedom-of-conscience … and the Dims are so desperate to change the subject from those issues, that they put the wrong spokesperson in the spotlight.
I agree: Limbaugh is a money oriented entertainer and opportunist whose goals often coincide with the Rep. Party but in fact he is no ideologue. It is a mistake to rally around Rush Limbaugh because there is a difference between happy coincidence and an ally.
The Union center was weak and Lee’s en eschelon attack on the 2nd Day was intended to prevent Meade from strengthening it. Unfortunately for Lee, the complex plan was beyond the capability of his new three corps, or is that corpse, organization. If A.P. Hill had been anything other than a bystander to defeat, if R. H. Anderson had been sober, if either of them had put the flat of their sword to Mahone’s a** late on the afternoon of the Second Day, y’all might talk with a different accent.
And you seem to be operating on the mistaken assumption that we care. It’s not about what the voters want, but rather right and wrong, and it is wrong to suggest that we must finance poison if we finance medicine. If that’s a losing issue, so be it. We can’t be afraid of losing, even being persecuted, if winning means having to compromise with evil. We will not assent to distribute poison, and no matter what the government does, they can’t force us to.
Poison? Do you know that most chemotherapy is poison?
Anyway, I guess that we are making the same point.
Chemotherapy is medication, and drugs normally used as contraceptives can be medication, too, in some circumstances. The difference is what the intended effect vs. side effects are. Medicine is intended to restore health by curing or treating a medical condition that is harming the patient. There may be side effects that cause a different harm than the disease you’re trying to treat. In some cases, the side effects may even be life-threatening, but the risk is tolerated because the probability of such side effects is outweighed by the danger imposed by the disease.
A poison, by contrast, is a substance administered with the intention of causing disease or injury, up to and including killing the victim. Most chemotherapy drugs would be poison if it were administered for reasons other than cancer treatment (a few work by stimulating the immune system, and a few others work only in concert with radiation, so they have no effect on their own). What is a disease? A disease is a condition where one or more parts of the body is not functioning properly, either by failing to do something it should be doing or doing something it shouldn’t, such that the body is thereby harmed.
To tanstaafl – “The Moon is a Harsh Mistress” – Aldous Huxley. You are so right – tanstaafl. But, there are millions who think Obama is going to give them one – and more. Fools, each and every one. We all pay, one way or the other.
Ah, one of my favorite Jimmy Webb songs. But, I think you mean Robert Heinlein.
Re Issa: There was a crooked man, and he walked a crooked mile.
He found a crooked sixpence against a crooked stile.
He bought a crooked cat, which caught a crooked mouse,
And they all lived together in a little crooked house.
The alternative is Jerry Tetalman. JerryforCongress2012.com
Congressman Issa is correct on one issue, if America does not discipline itself to debate rationally the issues of the day, we are going to cease to exist. Reading the above comments, and excerpts from Russ Limbaugh and our President, clearly point this out. Our President has shown infinitely more concern about the burning of a religious book, than the deeply held religious beliefs of millions of Americans on abortion. More Americans have been murdered, within the last week, over the book burning, than has occurred to abortionists since Roe v. Wade decision. Yet our President demands that religious people pay for what they consider homicide, for the first time in American history. The claims that religious factions seek to outlaw contraception is simply a lie.
Why any Congressman should be held to account for the outrageous stupidities of a talk show hosts is inconceivable. If that is the duty of Congressmen, we can forget about rational laws. From this article, it appears Issa acted normally. The debate was about religious exclusion language, which has been national law for several generations until Obama care was enacted. The witnesses, religious leaders, testified to the consequences of existing (new) regulations, and it constitutional violations. Why anyone would wish to have a third year law student be their sole witness, in lieu of Constitutional scholars, or health care experts, is also inconceivable. Why Georgetown condones a legal position which will cause their institution to cease to exist is also odd in the extreme.
We suffer demagogues and fools, of all races, creeds, and sexual orientation. This battle was fought down to the last hour, in Congressional debate, and was resolved by the President’s promise not to do what he has just done. In the history of lousy politics, this will rate near the bottom. Lost civility is just one of the consequences.
“….Why any Congressman should be held to account for the outrageous stupidities of a talk show hosts is inconceivable. If that is the duty of Congressmen, we can forget about rational laws. From this article, it appears Issa acted normally. The debate was about religious exclusion language, which has been national law for several generations until Obama care was enacted. The witnesses, religious leaders, testified to the consequences of existing (new) regulations, and it constitutional violations. Why anyone would wish to have a third year law student be their sole witness, in lieu of Constitutional scholars, or health care experts, is also inconceivable. Why Georgetown condones a legal position which will cause their institution to cease to exist is also odd in the extreme…..”
Well said, sir; but I fear the badly overmatched opposition has hit the jackpot. The real issue has been almost obliterated by this media circus and for that, the self-regarding talk show host is responsible for much worse than simple impropriety……..
Let MSNBC have Melissa Harris-Perry and Al Sharpton, 2 people I’ve never met, stop calling me a frickin’ racist 5 nights a week and laying bulls–t like “white privilege,” the “New Jim Crow” and the idea that I’m guilty for every frickin’ thing a white person ever did in the history of the world.
When I was young I quickly learned there were vulgar terms and vulgar ideas and just because MSNBC doesn’t literally say eff you to me doesn’t make their insults any easier to take, especially from that smug and arrogant confused person Rachel Maddow, who sees herself as the default new 10 Commandments I must obey or, yes you guessed it, I’m a bigot and racist.
Never mind Limbaugh. What struck me was the sense of entitlement Ms. Fluke exemplified.
How, in the short space of 51 years, did our society ‘progress’ from “Ask not what your country can do for you,” to “Dude, you gotta buy me my birth control pills!”?
This “issue” and the other social issues are a losing strategy, so far out of step with where the country is. Sure, Obama initiated the contraception debate, but does that mean we have to perpetuate it? He’s playing us! I doubt that many Americans really think that contraception is anything other than a settled issue and the longer we waste time and resources on this issue, the worse for it we will be.
It is amazing how many people think it is ok to strip people and institutions of faith of their right to the “free exercise of religion” by making them provide financial support for what they sincerely believe is sinful activity.
This very frightening.
I am glad to see conservatives refocus the terms of this debate away from the liberal talking points. Here we have a woman who has a scholarship to a prestigious law school wanting us to also cover the cost of her contraception so she can have an active sex life. My question, “Is there anything else we can do for you, dearie?” My goodness, the sense of entitlement. Then Rush calls her out on it and those champions of free speech on the left call on a boycott by his advertisers. In today’s paper, there were statements about how Ms. Fluke was attacked for expressing her views. And they turn around and attack Rush … for expressing his views.
I have no problem with contraception; I have used and paid for it myself. I do have a problem under the First Amendment with requiring those who, for religious reasons oppose contraception and feel under a moral obligation not to facilitate it, to do so. I take this position not as a Roman Catholic or Evangelical Christian. I am an Agnostic.
It strikes me that the Libruls have taken the ball and hidden it quite successfully.
How can they restore what they have no knowledge of, and certainly have not got? You are asking the blind to see, the deaf to hear, and the liberal to think.
GLWT.
>Issa Challenges Dems to ‘Restore Civility’
I am challenging pigs to fly- Issa and I have an equal shot at success
No one has adequately explained why a woman attending a $65,000 a year university apparently has problems affording The Pill.
Fluke, Flake, Fraud–or All Three?
No stranger to controversy, conservative talk radio commentator Rush Limbaugh stirred up a wasp’s nest last week when he concluded Georgetown Law student Sandra Fluke had to be a slut and a prostitute.
More specifically, he said, “What does it say about the college co-ed Susan Fluke [sic] who goes before a congressional committee and essentially says that she must be paid to have sex–what does that make her? It makes her a slut, right? It makes her a prostitute.” Limbaugh added, ”She’s having so much sex she can’t afford the contraception. She wants you and me and the taxpayers to pay her to have sex.”
On Saturday, without retracting the reasons for his rant, Limbaugh apologized to Ms. Fluke on his website for his “insulting word choices.”
He needn’t have.
The derogatory term “slut” refers to a sexually-promiscuous woman, “prostitute” to someone who accepts payment for sex acts. As injudicious and inflammatory as his words were, Limbaugh was correct since, by definition, Sandra Fluke fits the definitions.
Republican Presidential hopeful Rick Santorum characterized Limbaugh as “absurd,” House Speaker Boehner termed his language ”inappropriate,” and President Barack Hussein Obama called Ms. Fluke with some encouraging words.
In what was the most outrageous defense, Jesuit Georgetown University President John DeGioa praised her: “She was respectful, sincere, and spoke with conviction. She provided a model of civil discourse. This expression of conscience was in the tradition of the deepest values we share as a people.”
What Jesuitical BS!
On the other side of the controversy, Bill O’Reilly also criticized Ms. Fluke for wanting taxpayers to pay her for her hyperactive sexual activities, Michelle Malkin called her a radical feminist tool, and Eric Bolling said, “She seems like a plant.”
Rep. Darryl Issa precipitated the Fluke controversy when he refused to allow her to testify at last month’s hearings on religious liberty and the constitutionality of Obama’s mandate that church-related institutions bury their collective consciences by providing free insurance coverage for women seeking sterilization, abortafacient drugs, and contraceptives.
Obama’s “compromise,” shifting the burden of providing “free” birth control to those institutions’ insurance companies, simply meant religious institutions would pay indirectly through increased premiums for what they regard as morally-objectionable procedures.
Issa’s decision that Ms. Fluke was unqualified to testify in a matter involving the Constitution and religious rights was totally valid.
Nevertheless, ignoring constitutional issues, Democrats used Ms. Fluke as a tool to cover Obama’s infringement on religious liberty and promptly provided her with a forum to espouse her point of view.
The next day she appeared on MSNBC’s “The Ed Show” where she told Ed Schultz that the outpouring of support ”really has meant a lot to me. And I think to women across America . . . I don’t really see why anyone would not condemn this type of language.”
She said she would testify in the future if asked and, with a blinding sense of altruism, promised, “I think what I’m going to be doing from here on out is just continuing to do what I have been, sharing the stories of the women who contact me and really trying to make sure that their voices are being heard. . . ” (Read more at http://www.genelalor.com/blog1/?p=15503.)
Use whatever phrase works for you: “Just desserts” or “What goes around, comes around”. Or maybe you fancy “You reap what you sow”. Me? I like “Karma, baby!”. Actually, the terms matters little, but the reality is something a whole lot different.
The Left has been involved in primary subterfuge for the last several months. And, of course, the media has been the Sancho Panza to Barack Quixote. Since the never-ending debate cycle began, the potential republican nominees have marched straight into liberal quicksand. Most of the debate moderators have done their best to veer off into the realm of social issues so as to knee-cap any discussion of Obama’s economy or foreign policy or healthcare. At first blush, it seems that the audiences have been more alert to the quicksand than the candidates themselves.
Then Gingrich caught on. In fact, he caught on fire. And he flamed John King when he was asked about his ex-wife … and her suspiciously timed comments about a marriage that ended decades ago. The other nominees soon followed suit … and it seemed that any moderator who veered into such an atmosphere needed Kevlar protection. But it didn’t stop the assault. It was simply picked up by the media, and spotlighting social issues just couldn’t get them off the front page. And the Left thought they had a winning bit of sabotage. How could they not.
Here’s the nation’s economy in a complete sputter … with unemployment up, food stamps up, and millions of Americans very “down” about their personal situations. The nation was stewing over soaring gasoline prices, failed green technology investments and a pipeline scuttled as a gift to the environmental loons. Housing prices are, at best, stagnant … and “foreclosure” is now part of any eighth-graders lexicon. Every week revealed a new healthcare wrinkle in the democrat bill we all had to wait “to read to find out what’s in it”. But those important issues were buried under an avalanche of social issues the Left so desperately used as deflectors. It was a ruse. But then they went too far.
The early debates were peppered with back-and-forths about gays in the military, the Gardisil issue, marital infidelity, abortion, and now contraception. And the Left was back-slapping themselves like Little Leaguers after their first win. The Republican candidates were gnawing on the bait non-stop. But a funny thing happened. Well, a not-so-funny thing actually. They danced over the ridiculous line. And Rush Limbaugh made sure that everyone knew. And now they know. And the table’s been turned … or will turn soon enough. Now it’s the Left that is left to defend the indefensible.
A thirty-something, Georgetown-lawyer wannabe … Sarah Fluke (how appropriate!) parachuted into the debate and pitied her wretch life because of the absence of … are you ready? … free contraceptives. Yeah. Free condoms. Or pills. Or diaphragms. Or what ever other gear she needs in order to have a risk-free, robust sex life. And she was sincere, I swear it! And the Left loved her tale of woe. And the thought this was just another winning sub-point to discredit the entire Republican field. Enter Limbaugh.
Limbaugh’s been brilliant. He stole their very issue and turned it inside-out. And he did it in a way that no one would misunderstand. And in a way no one could not miss hearing about. He used his usual bombastic flare like a cannon. He blasted Ms. Fluke for fluking around so much that she even considered public assistance for her sex-crobatics. He questioned how a fully-grown woman at an elite (and expensive) Catholic law school could make such a thing a priority. And demand that her extracurriculars be on the taxpayer’s dime. And here’s the really sexy part of the sexy issue: the Left got outraged! I swear it!
And now the war is on … and the Left is left to defend a whorey Helen of Troy … or is that Helen of Trojan? I mean, really, how do you come to the defense of an adult woman who insists that “funication” is a right? That has to be paid for by everyone else? What about my fun stuff? Where’s my fun money?
So, Limbaugh’s been relentless. And perhaps even coarse. No surprise there. But here’s the thing: try as they might, the Left can’t defend this. Nope. ‘Cause it bumps up against common sense. Forget moral sense if you wish. Comman sense is taking a beating. And that’s not a good thing for the Left. But it hasn’t stopped the cable clowns from a non-stop gasp. Or White House spokes-bloke Carney from feigning shick. Hell, even Obama IPhoned the distraught bangerette … to express his, um, support. I mean, is he actually cheerleading her “dogged” style? Ha! Is she really a sort of martyr “missionary”? On a noble quest to … to what? The American people ain’t buying this slop. At all.
Now the Left is in jaw-dropping mode. Like some poor kid who saw his first naked lady. They can hardly believe that no one believes what they saw. Sounds complicated. It ain’t.
They’re so used to selling the weird and the outlandish that they cannot fathom that this isn’t being swallow hook, line and sinker. And they’re too obstinate or too dumb (or both) to retreat. And that’s great. Because they’ll never make a case for this with the American public no matter how much they gasp or how often they pillory Limbaugh.
It’s perfect absurdity. It maligns the healthcare issue even more. It speaks to the Left’s distain for personal responsibility. It shows them to be the nanny-staters they are. It spotlights the public discourse about the intrusiveness of government. It exposes their misplaced priorities. It makes them seem out-of-step and far away from the real national narrative of the moment. It sabotages the liberal media with perfect timing. It tattoos all the democrats as weird warriors. And best of all, it makes Obama look the fool, which might be the first bit of accuracy in almost four long years.
So, to Ms. Fluke, thanks. Thanks alot. I swear it! Thanks for handing the Republicans what they needed most … the White House. Oh! And carry on. And keep your rhythm … just to be safe.
Aidan
Aren’t you a day or two late on the news cycle here, or just in another world some where?
He’s channelling his inner Breitbart oh, G_d, I am so not liking this……..
I will not respond to anything in the article, nor to any commentary. I read only the first few lines….that was more than enough. When a people become so depraved, their government so lowly, that a subject of a woman’s sex life is more important than other matters needing attention, we are in deep, deep trouble. I am ashamed of our government, our president, and others of influence. I am sorry for all the good people who live decent lives, secure in the privacy of their homes and families, who work and live with honor and integrity. God help us all.
Because sex lives are not important, or just should not be spoken about in public? What is your point here?
Shhh! He isn’t there, didn’t you read his nonexistent post?
femi-nazi tool!!! LOL thanks, Ms. Fluke, for prostituting yourself to the Obama administration in their escalating attacks on the First Amendment and Catholic institutions under the transparent guise of womens’ healthcare. A bright woman or a calculating, politically driven woman? If you chose to attend a Jesuit institution with the expectation their healthcare plan would finance fornication and abortion via the birth control pill, IUD or “the morning after pill”, you can hardly be described as “bright” or a “heroine”. Ever read the health warnings on a pkg of birth control pills? or an IUD? Which, btw, of these birth contron methods named above actually prevent CONTRACEPTION? Which of these methods prevents STDs? Ms. Fluke,you are a common agitator with no regard for the Constitution. Unwanted pregnancy is not a disease; it’s the calculable result of irresponsible unprotected sex.