Sure Mitt Romney won a “landslide” in Florida tonight according to the Drudge Report headline at this moment, but was it really? Here are some numbers to consider: Romney won 46% of the vote BUT when 32% for Gingrich is combined with 13% for Santorum the total is 45% for the conservative team and suddenly Romney’s “landslide” disappears.
You can expect to hear Gingrich spout this line of thinking. He will use it as one of the reasons he will stay in the race and fight to the finish, and why he thinks Santorum should drop out.
The 45% conservative vote vs. 46% for Romney proves once again just how polarized the GOP is in 2012.
When Romney eventually becomes the official nominee, uniting the conservative wing will be his most difficult undertaking as the new party leader.
That is a problem Romney must successfully address if he is to prevail against Obama and one that Obama is counting on Romney to not solve.
Or maybe conservatives will need to decide whether they love their country more than Newt, or enough to support the better choice between Mitt and Obama. Newt certainly has acted like he loves himself more than anything. His hystercial personal attacks against Romney, from the left, have disqualified as a choice as far as I’m concerned. We need a leader, not an self-absorbed flame thrower.
Myra finds a rare acorn.
Actually, it’s 54 to 46 against McMitt, after a spend of $17 million…in a state that is setup pretty well for a liberal republican. This is the state, after all that was gung-ho for Charlie Christ until an extremely dynamic young Cuban exposed him. If Newt hadn’t won SC, this election would be billed as a shocker in Newt’s favor.
And Darth had to use all of the nukes in his nasty kit to do that well.
Question for you Myra, what do you think the outcome would have been if the spending had been even?
There was more spending against Romney than you realize because the Labor Unions also ran anti-Romney ads. That speaks volumes doesn’t it? Unions do not want to run against Romney, they know he can defeat their Messiah.
YOU.. Mr. Pro-Reason get some reason between your ears and help unite this party to defeat Obama. He is the enemy NOT Romney.
No, Myra, they ran ads against Romney, because they truly believe, according to the rules they know, that Romney will be the nominee, so they are getting a running start on tearing into him.
Going after proreason is just foolish. He has been posting here longer than you, and to the Conservatives here (this IS a Conservative site), what he writes is more worth reading than your stuff. Most of your stuff is just dreck.
Be nice to the customers, Myra. You do not get to insult the readers, even when they insult you first.
Myra, there were a handful of AFCSME ads against Romney, but they came quite late and it doubtful they had any effect other than helping Romney. You are known by your enemies.
Florida is not the conservative stronghold the media would have us believe. Florida produced RINO’s Charlie Crist and Jeb Bush, as well as liberal kooks like Alan Grayson and Debbie Wasserman Schultz. With Florida’s large number of senior voters on Medicare and Social Security, Romney’s Massachusetts Moderate persona likely plays well.
The big primary elections start in March, on super Tuesday. So far, Romney only has 71 delegates of the 1144 needed. And he’s only 48 delegates ahead of Newt.
Here’s how this trick works.
a. They ignore the question,
b. They bring up another point that, as often as not, is disinformation, and
c. They attack you
It’s just one of many tricks in the kit.
But they don’t really have any shame. All they care about is maintaining the status quo.
Check into how well the Republican Ruling Class in congress did financially since 2008. That will tell you everything you need to know about them.
The Marxists may be the primary enemy, but they aren’t the only enemy.
But why why would conservatives support a progressive like Newt? Romney isn’t the Washington insider and lobbyists, after all. Maybe his attacking the media impresses some people, those that listen to talk radio, but the ideas he espouses are not even remotely conservative.
And out of the two, Paul supporters would almost certainly side with Romney. He’s far from even remotely being libertarian, but then again, Newt is the authoritarian progressive like the Roosevelts, which is the complete antitheses to libertarianism.
Maybe it’s Romney’s preObamacare moment with Teddy Kennedy thing. Or maybe it’s his admonition that abortion rights belong to children that can bypass their parents’ wishes by going to a judge to get an abortion.
Seriously, the Mittster is a Libster. Less so that the Bamster, perhaps, but the Mittster offers not much seperation for true conservatives.
And true conservatives are repulsed by his scorched earth politics against others in the race.
I seriously dislike the glove, um, the mitt.
But why why would conservatives support a progressive like Newt?
Choice of a candidate is based on a comparative evaluation. Conservatives do not have the worshipful attitude of either Romney’s or Obama’s supporters. We recognize the faults [and they are many] that Newt has. But we see Romney as being worse. While the “lesser of two evils” process can be considered to be a reasonable sorting process so long as the level of evil is within the level that can be tolerated; you eventually reach a point where one or more of the options just cannot be tolerated. Newt is orders of magnitude away from sainthood. But he has redeeming features, and a history of actually fighting against the enemy sometimes.
Mitt Romney is not tolerable to Conservatives. He is a Republican, technically. But he is a Massachusetts Republican [I know his roots are in Michigan and Utah, but his political history is in Massachusetts]; which for the rest of the country equates to a liberal Democrat.
Give me one single reason from his entire political career of 20 years, including 4 years as governor of Massachusetts, to believe that he has ever or credibly will ever do anything that is even remotely conservative. Give me one reason from his entire political career to believe that he would stand up to the Democrats as they push Left. Remember them? They are not going to go away if Romney is elected. They are going to keep pushing to destroy the Constitution, and they will have willing collaborators in the Republican Congressional “leadership”. Is there any credible reason other than speculation and wishful thinking, that he will even try to hold the line? For that matter,give me one single reason from his entire political career that would indicate that he would fight against Obama hard enough to win. His entire political career has been running against opponents from the Left. He cannot run at Obama from the Left, and he has no credibility to run from the Right. Past performance is the best predictor of future behavior.
Exit polling from the Primaries/caucuses so far shows that his core constituency has an income > $200K, has post-graduate degrees, is irreligious, and detests the TEA Party. Can’t be too much more opposite of the base of the Republican Party.
His candidacy is being pushed by the same Institutional Republicans that has laid down and surrendered to Obama, and which hates the TEA Party.
Having him as the candidate that supposedly represents Conservatives is a moral affront to many Conservatives. He has yet to give any reason for Conservatives to be FOR him, other than he is not Obama. But his history,his own recorded statements and policy stands, and his supposedly sincere conversions that match up with his desire to run for president not only make the difference between him and Obama theoretical; any promises he may make have the same credibility as Obama’s.
I saw the title of this, and was curious. Ms. Adams is so in the tank for Romney that I have to assume that blood, marriage, or a paycheck is involved. For her to admit that things might be less than perfect with him provokes cognitive dissonance. But I see that the tenor of this is that Romney has to unite with the Conservatives and if Conservatives do not hop to it, it will be their fault that Romney loses to Obama. It obviously could not be the fault of Romney.
Subotai Bahadur
Just wait till he starts running towards the center. I can see him trying for a Sista Soldier moment by openly insulting conservatives.
Why doesn’t Newt drop out?
Newt despises Romney. It has become personal. Read more here.
http://pjmedia.com/tatler/2012/01/30/should-romney-convince-gingrich-to-bow-out-after-florida/
It’s comments like that that invalidate any salient points that you may write about.
To insinuate that if Newt doesn’t drop out now that it’s somehow a personal vendetta is hyperpartisan and foolish. Newt just won SC. 17 million dollars convinced a lot of network TV watching elderly that Newt was the antichrist.
Two weeks ago everyone was saying how you absolutely have to win SC in order to get the GOP nomination. What happened to that?
There’s a long way to go, and if you’re going to whine about me not rallying around Mittens the Inevitable Moderate it’s going to seem even longer.
It wouldn’t surpise me if Newt doesn’t endorse Santorum at some point.
Myra found two acorns in one day. As she says, Newt hates the smear merchant, and for good reason.
Newt also isn’t consumed with being president. If he was, he would have spent years building an organization, and wouldn’t have based his campaign entirely on gaining momentum through the debates. He knew that was a high-risk strategy, which tells you that being president hasn’t been his entire life for the last five years.
You can bet the house that he is currently deciding how to best stop the Smear Merchant. Since he is way smarter than any of us, he will find many approaches to that. One I’ve heard about is to slog on and win enough southern states so that there is no majority winner going into the convention. But he also must know that is a) unlikely, and b) even if he could pull it off, he would have a hard time overcoming the establishment in the convention as well. So he must be thinking about other approaches.
Throwing his support to Santorum is certainly an appoach he is considering. I’m not predicting it will happen, but if conservatives get behind Santorum, who is a true conservative by any standard and a much better candidate than he was six months ago, then Newt might be more likely to side with Rick.
Now let’s see if the Republican establishment can stuff Mitt down America’s throat. I will vote Gary Johnson and straight conservative down ticket if Mitt is the nominee in the general election.
Myra wrote: “YOU.. Mr. Pro-Reason get some reason between your ears and help unite this party to defeat Obama. He is the enemy NOT Romney”.
Boy that’s really persuasive. How about Mr. Romney and his Bob Michael republican establishment friends make an actual case to us conservatives as to why its worth the effort to elect him?
Romney’s celebrated management skills are no good to us if he does not have conservative principles or instincts.
His past certainly does not give a conservative confidence that he believes in limited government or recognize the terrible danger this country from the “Marxist-in-Chief” presently in the White House.
Romney seems like your typical “go along to get along” next in line good loser candidate in the Bob Dole/John McCain tradition.
I predict that if Romney is nominated he will curl up into a defensive crouch the minute B.O. carpet bombs him with a billion dollar negative campaign.
The problem with Romney is he’s not a leader. I’m not sure anybody running is a leader. Gingrich shows signs of it now and then and should he get elected, he may have the experience and wisdom to lead us out of this mess. But I don’t think he’s got the steel spine it’s going to take to get elected.
The sad truth is there are almost no real leaders in D.C., Allen West being the notable exception. Most of the rest I wouldn’t follow to a Fourth of July picnic with free beer.
Do this mind exercise. It’s election night Nov. 2000. Everything is exactly the same except there is no George Bush, instead we have your candidate. If you can’t honestly say that he would have president instead of Al Gore,then
he not going to be this time either.
Obama intends to win, no matter how many votes he has to steal or how many times they have to be counted.
Still like Newt. At a little over a million per point won in Florida, does Mitt have enough money. If he does, will he spend it all on Newt rather than Obama? Listening to C Span this morning so many people who Love Mitt did not like him in 2008, what has changed? I predict Mitt is another Scott Brown who will play to the center and vote to the left.
With Rove pushing Romney, it really makes me like Newt more. Are they afraid Newt will be the one to make big changes in DC?
I am a conservative who is so disgusted with the establishment Republican Party that I will be leaving the party if it nominates another G_D “moderate” to the top of the ticket. I’ll vote a straight GOP ballot in November in hopes of removing the current bastard from office. However, I am looking for a Conservative home going forward and that means opposing both Democrats and Republicans.
OK, if you don’t like Romney, then make damn sure no legislation gets to his desk that you don’t like! And you do that by controlling Congress! So start looking at your congressman and senator, and give support (money and time) to those who support your own worldview.
Am I a big Romney fan? No. However, the better candidates are in the AA and AAA leagues, and not yet ready for the Major Leagues. They will be ready in 4-8 years.
Romney’s role will be to stop the slide. It will take the next president to reverse the tide.