The Protocols of the Elders of Ron Paul (Update: Screen Shot Added)
It’s not just the newsletters of years ago. According to Adam Taxin of the NY Jewish Examiner, Paul’s website has been publicizing and distributing the infamous anti-Semitic forgery The Protocols of the Meetings of the Elders of Zion for the last three years!
Writes Taxin:
The website for “Campaign for Liberty”, an organization started by “Republican” anti-Israel Presidential candidate Ron Paul, has, since late 2008, been featuring a page offering the opportunity to purchase the notorious forged anti-Semitic book The Protocols of the Learned Elders of Zion.
As word spreads of this, inevitably Paul’s campaign will take down the page and claim the situation was a mere innocent mistake with which Paul (who of course hopes to lend his managerial skills to the entire nation) had nothing to do, a la the controversy over his newsletters in the 1990s. This of course despite the fact that the page with the link has now been up for over three years.
Indeed the web pages involved have now been taken down. The links, available from Taxin’s article, now read: “This blog entry doesn’t exist. Perhaps it once did, and was un-published or deleted, or maybe it’s just an invalid entry ID…” Maybe, maybe not. Unfortunately, Taxin has the screen grab with all the creepy ravings of one who calls himself “Free American.” The web is written in indelible ink, as we know.
Paul may not be an anti-Semite. He claims his devotion to the, largely Jewish, Austrian School of economics proves he isn’t, but that could be taken as a variant of the old “some of my best friends are” argument. Whatever the case – and I suspect Paul isn’t truly anti-Semitic, just clueless on a human level – he clearly attracts supporters who are and doesn’t vet them. Taxin is right to question the presidential candidate’s “managerial skills” at the very least. Someone should ask him about this at Thursday night’s debate.
Update: Screen shot – click to enlarge.
The Protocols are the smoking gun of Jew hatred. Anyone who peddles it or allows it be peddled in their name, hates Jews, period.
This smear attempt is pathetic, even for you Roger.
Less than a minute of clicking through reveals that you are repeating slander without any effort to verify it.
Sorry, JoshInHB, you can insult me all you want. I don’t know who you are and I don’t care.
But you are wrong.
This stuff existed. Don’t believe it? Go this Google link and see for yourself….
http://www.google.com/search?client=safari&rls=en&q=To+try+and+discredit+me,+to+neutralize+me+and+to+get+the+link+to+the+Protocols+of+the+Elders+of+Zion+off+my+site.+He+stepped+into+the+picture+after+the+ADL&ie=UTF-8&oe=UTF-8
The clicked through the top ten results of the google search that you linked to and not one of them links to the purported offering of PEZ by campaign for liberty for liberty or Ron Paul.
You have an actual link to such please provide it.
Otherwise I stand by the assertion that you are repeating a slander without verifying it.
We now have a screen shot added to the bottom of this post for your edification and those of others. What that Google link already showed was the existence of the language that “Free American” posted.
According to our correspondent Patrick Poole, the blog author information has also been changed. Poole writes via email: About an hour ago it showed that he was the Tuscon local coordinator for C4L. Now it shows he is a “regular member”.
Thanks you, JoshInHB, for your “respectful” and helpful contribution. I would advise you to remain anonymous. That’s the best way to insult people accusing them of lying when they are not. I’m not sure Dr. Paul would appreciate this kind of defense, but who am I to say?
Thank you for updating with the screen capture.
So after viewing that, do you stand by your statement that
“Paul’s website has been publicizing and distributing the infamous anti-Semitic forgery The Protocols of the Meetings of the Elders of Zion for the last three years!”.
Or would it be more accurate to say that some kook added that as an affiliated blog post which was not moderated?
Claiming that Ron Paul publicized and distributed that filth is in fact not accurate. Or do you feel responsible for everything posted here?
If you check you will also find the (one remaining?) blog post from “freeamerican” at the .com website.
In it he promotes an interview he did with Adam Kokesh, (the founder?) of Iraqi Veterans Against the War. Adam Kokesh of course has a very significant history of involvement with Ron Paul.
That hardly sounds like a random spammer.
In reply to JoshInHB claim that the author of this C4L blog post was just some random “kook”, I would note that just a few hours ago the post author’s profile identified him as a C4L “local coordinator”:
http://webcache.googleusercontent.com/search?q=cache:TBe-m3VHhIkJ:www.campaignforliberty.com/profile.php%3Fmember%3Dfreeamerican+To+try+and+discredit+me,+to+neutralize+me+and+to+get+the+link+to+the+Protocols+of+the+Elders+of+Zion+off+my+site.+He+stepped+into+the+picture+after+the+ADL&hl=en&client=safari&gl=us&strip=0
Now that information has been scrubbed so now he is only a “regular member”:
http://www.campaignforliberty.com/profile.php?member=freeamerican
What is C4L afraid of?
Now his profile has been removed altogether:
http://www.campaignforliberty.com/profile.php?member=freeamerican
Isn’t it interesting how the Paulites exhibit the same messianic fervor for Paul that the left does for Obama?
Roger Simon, there are ways of asking search engines not to cache a page.
robots.txt for instance.
Oops I misread you, I thought you said “this stuff never existed”
I shouldn’t post before coffee
Thanks for acknowledging your mistake, JS.
I’ve done a lot of dumb things, but this wasn’t one of them.
Ronnie hangs out with some very unsavory characters, which says a lot about his own.
So looking at the comments on Taxin’s article, the complaint is that the .com version of the site was taken over by this alleged evil person who put up the Protocols link while the real organization now has a .org address.
The thing is, the switch from the .com to the .org was started in mid-2011. The link was up for 3 years. That means Ron Paul’s people hosted it for at least 2 years while they were fully in charge.
Further, despite the the complaint that the .com remnant was taken over by some evildoer, it still retains a copyright tag for the Campaign for Liberty organization, and a fully updated, 2012 copyright tag, along with all the contact information for the “real” Campaign for Liberty organization. It would seem Ron Paul’s group still fully owns and operates the .com site, even as they are moving from it.
Campaign for Liberty owns this whole thing fully and completely.
For those trying to claim that the C4L website has been taken over by someone else, sorry to break it to you, but the WHOIS for campaignforliberty.com shows it has been and still belongs to Ron Paul’s C4L:
http://who.godaddy.com/whois.aspx?domain=campaignforliberty.com&prog_id=GoDaddy
Registrant:
Campaign for Liberty
5211 Port Royal Road, Suite 310
Springfield, Virginia 22151
United States
Registered through: GoDaddy.com, LLC (http://www.godaddy.com)
Domain Name: CAMPAIGNFORLIBERTY.COM
Created on: 30-May-08
Expires on: 30-May-13
Last Updated on: 16-May-11
Administrative Contact:
Administrator, Site frank@campaignforliberty.com
Campaign for Liberty
5211 Port Royal Road, Suite 310
Springfield, Virginia 22151
United States
+1.7038657162
Technical Contact:
Administrator, Site frank@campaignforliberty.com
Campaign for Liberty
5211 Port Royal Road, Suite 310
Springfield, Virginia 22151
United States
+1.7038657162
Domain servers in listed order:
DNS1.STABLETRANSIT.COM
DNS2.STABLETRANSIT.COM
Registry Status: clientDeleteProhibited
Registry Status: clientRenewProhibited
Registry Status: clientTransferProhibited
Registry Status: clientUpdateProhibited
Interesting that the Paulites have vanished… crickets.
Well, except for JoshInHB above… but he seems to have gone quiet under the avalanche of evidence that Roger and Patrick Poole are digging up.
Didn’t disappear, just had business to attend to.
Here’s a copy of the page in question cached by Google. This revision existed on December 10, 2011.
http://webcache.googleusercontent.com/search?q=cache:eq86xZ-my-gJ:www.campaignforliberty.com/blog.php%3Fview%3D5560+http://www.campaignforliberty.com/blog.php%3Fview%3D5560&cd=2&hl=en&ct=clnk&gl=us
So, there is hard evidence beyond a simple screen shot that C4L was peddling this trash.
Paul has a duty to find these bigots and purge them from his movement, our at least publicly repudiate them. To be presidential, you have to lead, not just provide good ideas. He has the opportunity to show how anti freedom racism and antisemitism is. If he doesn’t take it he is a failure as a leader.
Agreed.
Playing footsie with that kind of trash discredits his message and everything that he (claims to) stand for.
I can’t decide what I believe about Paul, but at this point it’s really academic. He’s either an incompetent fool or a malicious demagogue with an oily smile. I don’t want to take the chance on the latter; if he’s the Republican nominee, I’m going to vote to stick with the incompetent fool we already have in office. Better the (incompetent) Devil you know, than the (incompetent?) Devil you don’t. Mittens I can stand…Paul, not so much.
Ron Paul has been a loonie since day one. I wonder if his son knows just how much of a creep his dad is?
I have actually seen the Elders link on Ron Paul’s site. I saw it years ago.
It was taken down by site administrators. What else do you want. Clearly they didn’t approve of this and decided to act.
Yeah, they took it down after someone made a big stink about it.
How about taking it down before it starts a controversy? You know, when someone in the office looks at it and says, “Hey, this is anti-Semitic. That’s wrong. We need to take this down.”
But that didn’t happen. Apparently everyone associated with this website thought this was just fine, till the controversy started up.
That’s not principle, that’s spin.
Much of the content published on that site that has nothing to do with Paul or his people. You have people who side more with the Democrats, or even the kooky Greens that also visit and use that site.
Are they supposed to police every single post and every single reply, just because it may be offensive to someone? If that’s the case, then I expect PJMedia to take this post down because it offends my intelligence.
Notice that there wasn’t a single comment to this post. Other posts on that site get plenty of comments and responses, while this 3 year old post had none.
They had THREE YEARS to say something in support of this nutjob, and there’s not a single response to it at all, whether it be for or against this posting.
This is one lone nut voicing his opinion, spreading his nonsense. Everyone ignored them. No one paid any attention to it. There’s no proof anyone ever saw it.
There are plenty of reasons to dislike the man and his views, this is just grasping at straws.
There are plenty of reasons to dislike the man and his views
Yep.
You make some good points, but…
You admit that this thing sat on the website for 3 years.
In that time, did no one say, “hey, this should be taken down, it’s offensive”?
If someone did complain, did management ignore their complaints?
The first possibility says a lot about the people that frequented that website.
The second says a lot about the leadership of that website.
Neither one is especially flattering to RuPaul or his loyal Ronulans.
For the record, in 2009 – 10, I became interested in Ron Paul’s C4L and in Ron Paul’s campaign of 2008 itself. As part of that interest, I read many different Paul linked sites, including the C4L official sites, the Daily Paul, and other less officials sites like Liberty Forest. On every site I viewed, I saw antisemitic content using the classic Protocols cant either in the body of messages to the discussions or in the comments about the posts. In every case, I made complaints, and in every case the behavior was excused and ignored. In no case did I receive a satisfying response. At the very least, Ron Paul is a terrible leader and administrator, because even when I wrote a complaint to him personally, he never responded. Naturally, I did not want my good name associated with Ron Paul or any of his associations, so I stopped supporting him and his organizations in any way. Truth to tell, if he so unwilling to even tell his followers (he has followers, not supporters!) that this kind of talk of wrong and harmful, then I believe he is an antisemite at some level.
Funny that someone defending Paul over this accuses someone of “grasping at straws.” Paulites: walking irony.
Ron Paul ain’t gonna. I know something…
http://www.scribd.com/doc/76540883/Ron-Paul-The-Most-Dangerous-Nazi-in-America
Paul may not be an anti-Semite. He claims his devotion to the, largely Jewish, Austrian School of economics proves he isn’t, but that could be taken as a variant of the old “some of my best friends are” argument.
The Austrian Jew Ludwig Von Mises was the economic adviser to the Austrofascist Government that was in power before Nazi Germany annexed Austria. Von Mises was a fascist economist. He had to leave Austria because he realized no matter how big a fascist he was the Nazis would kill him for being a Jew.
I read part of your document. It’s a little overwrought but the excepts from the newsletter — if authentic — are damning.
That L. Ron Paul is an isolationist through and through stands above dispute, I think. That he has no time for Israel or for “Jewish Jews” (as opposed to merely nominal ones like Ayn Rand) is likewise clear to any but the thickest. And his record over the years suggests he’s quite willing to play footsie with even the most unsavory allies. (This is actually an interesting mirror image of the “no enemies to the left!” fallacy that has ‘respectable’ leftist politicians like 0bama playing footsie with Ayerses, Chavezes, and other Jeremiah Wrights.)
Anyway, whether The Dotty Uncle is an actual crypto-WN or merely utterly unselective in his allies is irrelevant — either makes him “totally unfit for command”.
However, if you and I could convince him to come out against legalization of drugs, I am sure the ‘Ronulans’ would see their numbers shrink drastically, at least on college campuses
Mr Weberman, thank you for the link. I have just done some reading on “Austrofascism”.
“Austrofascism” is half a misnomer. It’s not really fascism. I only had a few minutes to do it, but Dollfuss looks to me like a weaker Franco: authoritarianism allied with the (1920s-50s) Catholic Church. So-called Austro”fascism” had no antiSemitic character; rather, many German Jews found refuge there and participated in society. As long as Mussolini supported Austria, Austria resisted and in fact banned the Nazis.
I’d be fine with a Franco or “Austrofascist” regime as long as it maintained property rights for the law-abiding and could protect itself from threats at home and abroad. (Other names on my roll of honour: Trujillo, Salazar, Ian Smith…) That Mises supported Dollfuss and Schuschnigg means that “Austrofascism” is more like Pinochet in Chile.
If someone wants to give us THAT, then count me in! I am firmly on the side of Pinochet. And you would be too if you read up on Chilean history.
(But as has been pointed out by the original poster, Paul’s cult wants to give us populist antiSemitism, and the Mises stuff is just bait.)
Mr. Zimriel,
That’s an interesting comment. It prompts me to ask an O/T question: Can you recommend reliable references on the history of Chile, and especially on the topics of Allende and Pinochet? Thanks very much.
Julie: it’s been awhile, but I’ll give it a try.
The Chilean system of government under Pinochet is known under two “euphemisms”. Pinochet supporters call it a “military government”. Enemies call it a “dictatorship”. I prefer to call it a “dictatorship”. I hold to the classical opinion, that a “dictatorship” should mean “temporary emergency rule”, like Sulla. “Emergency rule” that goes on and on and on, has ceased to be justified as an emergency; this is then a “tyranny”, like Julius Caesar – and Mussolini, and Hitler.
“Austrofascism” had more the character of an Italian protectorate. The Nazis (whom I hate, btw) murdered Dollfuss so I don’t know if Dollfuss was going to end up a dictator or a tyrant or what. I do think he tried his best with the poor hand he was dealt. But anyway.
On Chile what I mostly read was Milton Friedman, the Van Mises of Chile. For instance, here: http://www.pbs.org/wgbh/commandingheights/shared/minitextlo/ufd_reformliberty_full.html. There are also several papers out there about how the Chicago Boys did “Social Security reform” right, and how the US should do similar. There’s a lot about the “Chilean Miracle” around the place, which is polite about what it took to get there.
As for Allende, it’s hard to find non-pravda. For instance Paul Johnson and other Rightists complain that Allende didn’t have an electoral mandate. This is a lie; Allende would have had a majority if the other Leftist hadn’t run. And then there’s the Left – like Edward Boorstein, who has a lulzable book in Amazon that Allende’s policies could have worked if the Congress had just agreed to raise taxes. (Like the direct confiscations weren’t enough?)
So I’ve had to read between the lines. All sides say Allende seized private property. All sides say Allende riled up the masses against the rich and the Americans. All sides say that public order collapsed. These are heroic acts to the Leftist; but to me, I know this script. Also there’s the (Left, and anti-Pinochet) Independent in the UK: http://www.independent.co.uk/arts-entertainment/pinochet-was-a-vile-fascist-but-allende-was-no-hero-1179768.html.
Here is a link to a Chilean forum with some primary sources:
http://www.allchile.net/chileforum/topic3364.html
Apparently the Chileans won’t publish pro-Pinochet books. Die a hero, or live to become a villain . . .
I’ve also read about the Argentine junta, by the way; they really were as bad as people say they are, and unlike Pinochet they didn’t leave behind any sort of legacy.
Don’t they actually have to BE Semites for this to have been “anti-semitic”? These are hiding behind anti-semitism to veil their evil works. I didn’t realize RP (or maybe it was just his people) knew that.
Rev. 3:9 “Behold, I will make them of the synagogue of Satan, which say they are Jews, and are not, but do lie; behold, I will make them to come and worship before thy feet, and to know that I have loved thee.”
Hello?? LOL