It has just been announced that Fatah and Hamas, the two bitter rivals in the Palestinian nationalist movement, have signed a unity accord to end their decades long divide. Their preliminary agreement, according to The New York Times, provides for their creation of a transnational unity government for both the West Bank and Gaza, to be followed by new elections after one year.
Immediately, Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu made a firm statement about the meaning of this agreement:
“The Palestinian Authority has to choose between peace with Israel and peace with Hamas,” Mr. Netanyahu said in a televised address on Wednesday. “Peace with both of them is impossible because Hamas aspires to destroy the state of Israel and says so openly.”
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Netanyahu is correct. What it means, moreover, is the immediate end to the mythical “peace process” that the Obama administration has been trying to resurrect since Obama assumed the presidency. The fig leaf is now off the Palestinian Authority and the idea that the West Bank government of Mahmoud Abbas and Prime Minister Salam Fayyad is a viable partner for the attainment of negotiations that would lead to a two-state solution.
Now that Fatah has made it clear that it prefers unity with the Hamas terrorists — despite the documented fact that Hamas has itself slaughtered and murdered scores of Fatah representatives in cold blood the past few years — it is crystal clear that there is simply no Palestinian entity that can serve as any kind of negotiating partner with Israel.
According to reporter Isabel Kershner’s story in the Times, the announcement “appeared to catch the Obama administration…by surprise.” If that is the case, it not only reflects on the poor intelligence capacity of the United States in the region, but also reveals the administration’s dependence on its myopic hopes about a new peace process taking place. Indeed, as Abbas revealed earlier to Newsweek:
Obama had led him on, and then let him down by failing to keep pressure on Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu for a moratorium on settlement building in the West Bank last year. “It was Obama who suggested a full settlement freeze,” Abbas explained. “I said OK, I accept. We both went up the tree. After that, he came down with a ladder and he removed the ladder and said to me, jump. Three times he did it.”
Having been burnt by Obama already, clearly the PA decided that rather than go along any more with the current U.S. administration’s lofty plans, it was better to cut a deal with Hamas than find that Hamas would take over the West Bank on its own, assuring the arrest, imprisonment or elimination of Fatah leaders, or the total collapse of any Fatah role in a forthcoming Palestinian state or territory.
Interesting analysis–as usual.
The fact is that America is becoming more and more isolationist–what happens in MENA is less important to fundamental American interests than it used to be.
KSA is still important for the oil and because it is buying $6+ Billion of US defense products–good for American families.
We need nation building at home in America, as our major oil suppliers are Canada and Mexico we need to focus on making Mexico a viable state-
1/ To solve our immigration problem
2/ To secure energy
MENA is becoming less and less relevant to US fundamental interests and , as Gen Petraeus said, the Levant harms our interests.
Petraeus is moving on to greater things–securing American interests in the Anglosphere + India and in the larger American continent–Canada + Mexico.
We are moving away from MENA–that is now the headache for the rest of NATO and the Arab League.
China now owns $1.1 trillion of our nation debt–Americas national debt is the existential threat to the US
In 25 to 30 years we may be interested in MENA again–but we doubt it will ever be relevant again.
When will we vet this president? When he takes us to Zero.
The Internet is replete with information about the continuing wars and bloodletting in the Middle East between the two major Muslim sects, Sunni and Shiite, for GLOBAL caliphate status. We are being duped by our current unvetted President, Barack Hussein Obama who is using an old Shiite custom of Taqiyya (deceive your enemies to further your cause) . It is, well-documented that President Obama and his family are Shiite Muslims which make up 15% of the Middle Eastern Muslim population. Sunni Muslims make up 85%. Iranian President Amedinejad is a Shiite Muslim, and we see these two presidents friendship as portrayed by Obama’s silence and leniency with Amedinejad as he slaughtered Iranian students and now protestors in Pakistan (Sunnis). We find Obama leading the charge with our blood and money in the overthrow of all moderate Sunni Arab governments. One only needs to do the research.
Obama is supporting the “Rebels”, better known as the Shiite-dominated Muslim Brotherhood. Look at how he ushers in quick elections where only the Muslim Brotherhood can win using U. S. dollars. His escalation of our involvement in Afghanistan, Libya, Egypt, Yemen, Bahrain, Syria, Tunisia and now Pakistan, which are all Sunni led governments, is in direct contrast to Obama pulling out of Iraq and ignoring Iran (both Shiite). Now the Israelis will be fully exposed to barbarian elements as never before, and Barack Hussein Obama will, with our help, destroy Israel. The execution-style killing of Osama Bin Laden (a radicalized Sunni) and family began the very clever Shiite dismantling of Pakistan. It was not about the U.S. murder of 3,000 civilians. The Obama administration has placed the Muslim Brotherhood on the payroll as advisors to the United States. Aren’t they the ones in the streets of Egypt who denounced the United States and Israel with statements such as, “Death to America. and death to Israel”? Obama is obviously a radicalized Shiite terrorist in the White House, as he meets and consults with Muslim Brotherhood radical Imam Shiites but will not meet with U.S. allies.
Obama further supports his Muslim brethren by keeping U.S. energy dependent on Muslim oil by shutting down our coal production, refusing to allow Gulf drilling by US companies, yet twice has financed Brazil’s Petrobras with our tax dollars (George Soros, Obama’s benefactor and owner of 14% of Petrobras, hates Israel ) for deeper water drilling than the Gulf and contracting Petrobras to drill in our own Gulf when disallowing the same of U.S companies. He is systematically destroying the U.S. through unnecessary spending while he lays the groundwork for a global Shiite caliphate . Obama makes Shiites appear less hostile calling them “Rebels” as the United States is forced fight on their side. The truth is that the Sunnis have been Israel’s protectors. Obama hates Israel as do all Shiites. His goal is to annihilate Israel and use United States’ money and blood to bring a global Shiite caliphate into being. Are we using our best and bravest resources along with all of our money to rendered us destitute (powerless) to build Obama’s Shiite Caliphate throughout the United States and the world? This may be the most clever terror plot devised to date? An inside job (in our pockets.)
Ron – Good analysis. It seems that Obama has the reverse Midas touch. Everything he touches gets screwed up.
It’s a Midas touch all right. Everything Obama touches turns into a muffler.
“The Roots of Obama’s Rage” a good book…an eye opening book.
It will make you stop and think about our future as Americans and why we must get Obama out of office as soon as possible.
There is one MAIN component to this ‘surprise’ merging of Fatah terrorists with Hamas terrorists which dare NOT be overlooked.Either Israel’s leaders will finally jump off the ‘peace’ train and shoot for victory, or, they will revert to form, appease Obama and cease their advances, just when it appears the Arabs will (once again) face defeat and humiliation.
There is NO upside for Jerusalem to curry favor with Washington under the current circumstances.IF they do they too will be complicit in Israel’s destruction.
Simple as that.
In my admittedly pessimistic view, this is just the next step toward Armageddon. And we have nothing to thank but the feckless Obama administration, headed by Himself.
Hi Rebecca, nice to see you. Yes, this is a very grim development.
World-wide, adversaries of freedom, peace, and prosperity know they have seventeen months left to play the fools in Washington. The dollar’s weaker every day and we refuse to fix it, we’re leaving where we should stay, intervening where we should not, coddling our enemies, abandoning our friends, and no one trusts us. It is going to get a lot worse and, as has become characteristic of this administration, someone else will pay.
For now.
“…Their preliminary agreement…provides for their creation of a transnational unity government for both the West Bank and Gaza, to be followed by new elections after one year…”
Merely wishful thinking and fantasy to annoy the Israelis and keep the relatively minor Palestine issue in the headlines. Hardly cause for alarm.
I have a feeling that you are correct and it is a publicity stunt. Most outsiders don’t know how Fatah and Hamas hate each other. I am not convinced that they have suddenly buried the hatchet. Time will tell.
They may, indeed, hate (and especially fear) each other. That is true.
However, I can think of a country they hate more.
Don’t forget who Hitler signed an alliance with in 1939, so that he could carry out his “final Solution” unhindered on one front.
Agreed. This new “national unity government” will be about as robust and long-lasting as the United Arab Republic coalition of Egypt and Syria back-in-the-day.
I’m thinking this will end in a paleostinian civil war in which Hamas comes out on top. Then the U.N. attack of Israel and America for allowing it to happen.
Then the war will really start.
Good thing we’ve been giving them the latest in weapons to use against us. . . again. Why are we sooo stupid?
Abbas’ comments are themselves laughable. To claim that a settlement freeze was the key to the problem, or even a reasonable way forward, was ridiculous from the outset.
What he really meant is that he thought he’d found a useful sucker in President Obama, and that turned out not to be the case (due more to incompetence on Obama’s part than anything else). But he had to sound reasonable and blame Israel — after all, he was talking to Newsweek. (Had he been speaking in Arabic, he’d have had something else entirely to say.)
Fatah has done us a favor by taking off the mask. From Israel’s perspective, there was never a significant difference between Fatah and Hamas — except that Hamas wants to destroy Israel and says so, while Fatah wants to destroy Israel and lies about it. They were always both terror organizations, but one of them had better PR. Now we can all see what they are, and what they want.
The withdrawal of Abbas from the American camp is what happens when there is a psychopath – literally – in the White House who has no use for one position over any other position. No one wishes to deal with His Highness or depend upon Him.
Please see Melanie Phillips’ Spectator column on the failure of the US troop to react to the Iraqi government’s systematic slaughter of Iranian dissidents at Camp Ashraf. These refugees from Iran were promised US protection. The US troops even failed to provide medical aid to the wounded Iranians. Shame on the “realists” and particularly on Mr. Obama! http://www.spectator.co.uk/melaniephillips/6899955/the-massacre-at-camp-ashraf.thtml#comments
“Airstrip One” is an example of a country eternally at war and the former Mandate of Palestine is an example of how it can actually happen.
If it can happen there, it can happen anywhere, you just need the right circumstances and unrelenting hatred on both sides.
Could it happen in America, 100, 200 years from now? Enclaves of hate based on immigration into a homeland taken from them and in which they had a presence many hundreds of years – this one called Aztlan.
Increase population, allow unrestricted immigration, rub up people against one the other who’ve been radicalized and there you have it.
I wouldn’t give 2 cents for the leadership of Israel, the Palestinian Arabs or the United States when it comes to this issue. Things aren’t getting better they’re getting worse because all sides insist they are either right or will take no steps to short circuit what enables the situation.
If 1/10 as many words were written on how this could be solved it would’ve been a long time ago. Too bad all sides are too busy making up clever analogies to Hitler or apartheid for the other side.
Meanwhile here in America Latinos are already jockying for position with Mexican Caucuses and La Raza and it’s just one big unhappy family.
Immigration gave the Palestinian Arabs a diversity they still won’t accept but in the case of America, they aren’t fighting back but have half the country actually fighting for it.
Good luck America and Israel because you are living with people who don’t have a clue, not one, on how to create a civilization. If it wasn’t for the people they hate so much, both the Arabs and Latinos would be living in the age of copper instead of tinkering obsessively with their cell phones and flush toilets. Our politicians are nothing more than a bunch of politically correct opportunists and traitors to their own culture; the one everyone else is so equal to but cannot conjure up for their selves.
I am Obama, destroyer of worlds.
Isn’t that very close to what Oppenheimer (one of the A-bomb developers) said, as he watched the mushroom cloud detonate over New Mexico?
Let us just hope no illegal immigrants decide to replicate that mushroom cloud anytime soon.
The rejectionists of the region no doubt think that their prospects have never been better – which is different than saying that they are. They’re not winning the long game. So, in the near term, how committed are they? How bold are they?
In The Weekly Standard (April 14, 2008, Vol. 13, No. 29) Stanley Kurtz reviewed a book by Philip Carl Salzman on culture and conflict in the Middle East. What follows is a quote that bears on the questions you raise.
“Salzman says that it is not the details of tribal kinship structure that pervade Arab culture but the underlying principles of “balanced opposition,” in which collective responsibility, honor, and feuding shape every action and thought, often calling for quick shifts in loyalty. Unite with your erstwhile enemy in opposition to a more distant foe; treat all members of an enemy group as potential targets; demand honorable behavior from members of your own group; and maintain your own and your group’s honor by a clear willingness to sacrifice for the collective good.”
I used to think that Obama would be the president that lost Israel. Now I think he’ll be the president that lost Israel, Egypt, KSA, the Palestinians, and there’s still plenty of time for more.
This action by the Pals is intended to support their declaration of a state later this year. This is of course why Hamas could be induced to agree. They are looking to the future when they will dominate all the territories and they were able to pressure Abbas to make concessions to them so they would agree. You see the Palestinians can negotiate when they want to.
Anyway, I wouldn’t be that this deal will last all that long. They hate each other more than they hate Israel.
“They hate each other more than they hate Israel.”
No they don’t.
So Obama blew it again, what’s the news in that?
Obama bumbles and blows it so often it has become his modus operendi!
The great honest article! The Israeli-Palestinian problems lies in the lack of the political will of the US administration and Israely government to define the borders of political regulating + conditions of security+that was approximately defined as the “road map”.The Israeli Arab neighbours permanently break the “road map” conditions by aggressive actions, but Obama`s reaction is the pressure of Israel for concessions,ridiculouse in the growing danger to Israel`s existance.Obama`s hasty promises to Pals based on Israel`s hate have became lies.The distructive role of “impious alliance” of the American liberal Jews and Obama`s Muslim bias policy is clear.
Middle east peace is not the responsibility of Obama or the US. It is the obligation of middle-easterners to solve their own problems. We are not world’s parents.
As an American, I am highly offended by this comment:
“America’s best friend and most reliable ally is Israel”
Israel is no friend to the citizens of the United States. I’ve heard this a few times in the 30 years that I have been alive but just ask anybody here who isn’t Jewish. Outside of the AIPAC-approved Zionists and Neocons in Washington nobody agrees with that (98%+ of our population isn’t Jewish by the way).
Friends don’t consistently get caught spying on their friends as Israelis do all the time. Israeli intelligence operations generally use scams involving illegal Israeli immigrants (usually in sanctuary cities so they don’t always get deported if caught) to fund them, scams that have affected my family members even. My gullible dad fell victim to a magazine scam around 10 years back from a door-to-door magazine salesman who just happened to be from Israel. The FBI arrested many Israelis posing as art students selling fraudulent artwork because they were linked to Israeli intelligence.
Many mall kiosks selling junk are staffed by illegal Israelis. Just last weekend I went to a mall in Michigan (Great Lakes Crossing) and noticed that at least two kiosks looked like they had Israeli employees – one for cell phone covers and the other for some other kind of junk. I asked one of them where they were from and they proudly said they were from Israel. I asked if they had a green card which made them really defensive and belligerent. Then I walked away and pretended to take pictures with my phone. They left the kiosk, not entirely unusual I know. But they never came back in the entire hour I was in the mall. Weird, huh? You might think it is meaningless but go Google “Israeli mall kiosk” and you’ll see that it is actually quite common. They recruit people in Israel to come here and sell the products while giving them an apartment shared with other Israelis. The FBI has arrested and deported some Israelis selling junk toy helicopters and dead sea skin care products which were fronts to intelligence operations. These scams fund the operation.
Try to search for a local locksmith, especially in NYC. At least half the locksmiths are fraudulent scammers who just happen to be Israelis. I saw this one office building which had multiple locksmith company LLC names along with several moving companies. If you looked them up you would notice they all have separate addresses that point to mail drops. But kinda odd they are actuality the same company. Tax scam? I dunno but again, moving companies are common fronts for intelligence operations. Just Google “Urban Moving Systems” which is a rather famous example of an Israeli spy operation. These scams all help fund the spy/intelligence operations.
Israel wants the US to release Jonathan Pollard who is in prison for passing on classified information to Israel. He should have been executed, why should he be released?! He is responsible for many lost American lives. Israel honored the people who took part in the Lavon Affair, a false flag that involved bombing British and American targets in Egypt with the intension of blaming Egypt so the British would retain troops in the Suez Canal. It was intended to MURDER AMERICANS and blame Egypt but luckily it didn’t work out so well and Israel was caught. Again, they honored these people who were going to murder their ‘best friends’ and lie about it.
Ask the survivors of the USS Liberty, a US Naval vessel which was brutally attacked by Israel, how they feel about their ‘best friends’. Israelis took one of the lifeboats full of survivors and then executed the Americans and kept the boat as a trophy.
Do best friends steal nuclear material from you and build nuclear bombs in secret then lie about it for years? Because Israel did that you know.
I’ve had a rough couple of years. I lost my house, I lost my job, my family has been torn apart because of our economy. Why am I mentioning this? Because the USA sends billions of USA citizen-paid (via taxes) aid to Israel every single year. They give them military aid too.
Which leads me to my next point – The US doesn’t need to “quickly decide” anything over there. The US shouldn’t even give a flying frak about mediating other countries or helping Israel or going to war with nations that are of zero threat to us. Israel is a Zionist-run country with dwindling international support because of their obvious crimes against the Arabs who lived there first. It’s very existence was established for RELIGIOUS PURPOSES. Zionists are extreme fanatical religious nuts. The USA has nothing in common with that (except for the extreme religious nuts in the American south, but they are our citizens after all and I would die to protect them)!
AIPAC has major influence in Washington. Their leader in the 90s had to resign after a Jewish American hero taped a conversation where he admit they pay big money to ensure “The Jewish vote” in return for Israeli support and how they use this to push Zionist candidates to the forefront. AIPAC pressured Clinton to go to war with Iraq for years. AIPAC helped establish its alter ego PNAC who did get the US to go to war with Iraq after 9/11 – for no reason at all by the way – and then they’ve tried to get them to go to war with Iran (also for no reason). PNAC has a different name now and the US has no interest in Iran, but AIPAC still brings it up. AIPAC doesn’t pay taxes by the way and refused to register with the justice department as a foreign agency despite consistent pressure.
Anyways, Israel is no friend of the United States. Period. The half-baked “peace negotiations” always had untouchable items not up for negotiation like for example settlements and no right of return. This is also the same peace crap that Obama was pushing. Palestinians shouldn’t have to accept this. If Israel has the right to exist, a Palestinian state absolutely has a right to exist UNCONDITIONALLY. Your’re right that they’ve made it crystal clear that they’re not a negotiating partner with Israel. Negotiations are over, Israel is not interested in “peace”. That’s why two bitter enemies have put their differences aside to unite for the same cause. Jordan will be on board with this too. Egypt’s peace treaty with Israel is done for. A Palestinian state will have international support and the US will most certainly turn their back on ‘their best friend’ Israel because they’ve been meaning to do that for decades and now is the chance. If Israel wants to go to war over this, they will have zero support. Better not use those nukes either because the day that happens is the day that there is no Israel.
If Americans knew the truth about Israel (ifamericansknew.org is a good resource, so good that they are the only non-Muslim listed in the top five offenders by those terrorists the ADL) there would be no Israel either. 9-11 conspiracy nuts hardly ever touch on the fact that Israeli intelligence left a paper trail all over the hijackers or that Israelis were arrested on 9-11 and afterwards. They were all mysteriously cleared to be deported from high up the chain of command. At the very least they had foreknowledge and didn’t tell their “best friends”. Then there is the whole ‘what if’ as in what if they were the ones behind it trying to blame “Palestinians” as some of the evidence shows they did when arrested on 9-11. Why would the USA cover for them? Probably to prevent WWIII. It’s not a paranoid conspiracy theory when it is backed up by facts. A simple Google search and a couple hours is all you need. If they did do 9-11 and Americans found out about it whoa boy! “Israel” would be so radioactive from the American ‘response’ that the Palestinians would be mad at us because they couldn’t live there.
Yes, and Israel is trying to corner the tinfoil market too, shocking.
So when the Palestinians declare their state how will they get from Gaza to the W Bank? Where will they get water and power? With whom, how, and what will they trade for income and goods and services?
Declaration of a state nullifies Oslo and places them under 242 which requires negotiated borders in exchange for peace. Israel cann annex the W Bank areas where Israelis live. Nobody will accept this but so what?
I think they are hoping for ‘international pressure’. That may have swung there way for an inexplicably long time despite their horrid behaviour but relying on the charity of others, who really have nothing to gain from it is hardly a solid plan.
Anyway these parties have a long history of paper agreements that seem to catch fire when a pen is put to the signature line. Fatah will sign their death warrant and whatever state emerges will be worse than Lebanon.
Hamas and Fatah have always been two sides of the same coin. I can’t help but feel that ultimately this will work out for the better for Israel. Support for the Palestinians, whether in Norway, Lebanon, or Venezuela, always is based on the wish to see Israel collapse and disappear. This unity move just renders irrelevant the peaceniks and their enablers – first and foremost being Mr. Beilin and his mentor.
The greater threat to Israel is the convergence in goals of the Iranian regime and Egypt.
This move is prep for a UN action in September to declare a ‘palestinian state’. I bet they will invoke 9/11 to justify giving a state to terrorists.
The ‘palestinian’ leadership realizes that it doesn’t matter if Hamas is in the government, since the UN and the west does not make them keep their agreements anyway. They signed to renounce violence, accept Israel, and stop educating their children to hate Jews. They never did any of these things and no one minded, so why not bring Hamas in also.
After the UN vote in 9/2011, there will probably be a 1 year wait for “institution building” which will be used to arm the terrorists. There will be another Yom Kippur War in 9/2012
The pressures on Israel to accede to “Palestinian” demands is a means to destroy Israel. The Arabs called “Palestinians” are not “Palestinians,” for “Palestinian” and “Palestine” have meant “Jews” and the “land of the Jews” since the Roman Emperor Hadrian in 135 A.D. after defeating the last of the Jewish rebellions under Bar Kochba, changed the name of Judea to Palestina (and changed the name of Jerusalem to “Aelia Capitolina” and also outlawed Judaism). That is why Great Britain was awarded the “Palestine Mandate” after World War I to be the “homeland of the Jews.”
Calling Arabs “Palestinians” comes from two Jew haters, Gamal Nasser of Egypt and the Soviet Union, which in Cairo in 1964 invented the “Palestine Liberation Organization,” with all the phony history and propaganda to go with it. The Arab opposition to Israel is purely religious, hatred of a Jewish state.
Spot-on except for one thing: I do not think Hadrian outlawed Judaism; he did however make it very difficult to practice it. Fortunately, the exhaustion of the Bar-Kokhbah rebellion let to his early demise.
One point of interest…. the Hillary for 2012 backers appear to have a definitive problem with Obama.
http://wwwtwosetsofbooks.blogspot.com/2011/04/exclusive-hillary-backers-obama-muslim.html
At the risk of feeding a troll who clearly has issues not only with Israel but with Jews in general, anyone who thinks that “ifamericansknew.org is a good resource” should not overlook equally reliable resources like stormfront, Jews without Borders, or talmud unmasked.
On the serious side, anyone who wants to back up the fact that Israel is a valuable ally and that we Americans get at least as much from Israel as we give, Michal Oren’s recent column on that subject.
Sorry you lost your job, Aaron Stiles. Especially because it seems as though you’ve had too much time on your hands and have been reading anti-Jewish conspiracy Websites too often.
He didn’t lose his job, he was performing it.
It is very hard to understand what the Palestinians are up to at any given time. Perhaps it is my bias which makes me think that there must be some logical explaination for things wheather I agree with it or not. But logic has little to do with it.
One thing I think has happened it that Palestinian identity as a people or nation is very new. It has only happened in the past century. I do not know any other such group. It is centered around a narrative. That narrative is victimhood, exodus, and persecution by the most evil race on earth – the Jews.
That is their essential story and there is nothing else to draw on. No revelations on the Mountain, no past or present glory, no kingdom of old. They vererate people who murder children in the night because there is nothing else in their group identity to celebrate.
On such a foundation cold logic, goals, expectations, and a plan for achieving that cannot grow. The story cannot end there with a modern state growing alongside their old enemies.
Their story needs a second book detailing the redemption and victory which will complete the saga and earn their place in history. No amount of reality can compete with this fantasy.
Everyone knows what the Palestinians can achieve. The only possible terms, and they are good ones, have been laid out many times. It would be a great victory indeed. At one point it seemed that they were vanquished forever.
Wikileaks reveals that major Palestinian leaders in rational moments have nodded their heads in agreement in private. But they cannot burst the fantasy bubble. Agreements are not victories. The Jews would not have been made to pay.
The next intifada is coming. Hard to say how this will play out. Maybe they are planning to declare a state on ’67 borders and try and force an Israeli withdrawal. It will not stop there and would not if Israel withdrew tomorrow.
In 1980, PLO Terrorist Leader Arafat explained the peace process: “Peace for us means the destruction of Israel . We are preparing for an all-out war, a war which will last for generations.”
Egypt created the PLO. The PLO Charter calls for the destruction of Israel.
On the same day Oslo “Peace” Accords were signed in 1993, PLO leader, Arafat stated: “Since we cannot defeat Israel in war we do this in stages. We take any and every territory that we can of Palestine, and establish sovereignty there and we use it as a springboard to take more. When the time comes, we can get the Arab nations to join us for the final blow against Israel.”
After the Declaration of Principles was signed by the PLO and Israel in 1994, Arafat said in a Johannesburg mosque that the agreement was identical to the Hudabiya peace treaty signed in 629 between Muhammad and the Qurayish tribe of Mecca. A temporary, phony peace agreement made to deceive, which is broken once Muslims became strong enough to attack and defeat the hated infidel enemy. Muhammad said: “War is deception” (Bukhari: V4B52N268). Arafat to a Fatah youth group in 1998: “The Peace of Oslo is the Peace of Hudabiya.”
The Arab League’s Charter states its goal is to eradicate the Zionist entity.
The dirty, murderous “peace” the US/EU/UK/UN is seeking for Israel is a Second Holocaust of Jews.
Interesting discussion. You should post this as a policy proposal on http://www.whitehousevoice.com
For four decades I’ve watched this conflict play out. I’m surprised its played out as long as it has. The only thing resembling a strategy I can see on both sides is each side thinks it can outlast the other. The Palestinians banked on the demographic bomb, but that has failed because they messed up by educating their women. Like all societies with educated women, the fertility rate plummets.
The Israelis as far as I can tell have never had any plan at all. I think most Israelis knew Oslo was a delusion right from the start, but preferred to have a brief respite and let the future generations deal with the repercussions. Now that I see how America’s political class are refusing to deal with the crushing debt, I have more sympathy for the Israelis failure to reckon with the future. I guess it is not part of how we are constituted. The old fable of the grasshopper and the ant comes to mind. We are grasshoppers.
This is a little off the subject, but not totally. The birth certificate thing made me realize what Jewish holiday Obama’s birthday is close to- Tisha B’Av! It’s a day of mouring marking the destruction of the Temple in Jerusalem. Coincidence? Just sayin’…
I respect Netanyahu and Israel and I hope they survive – despite 0 and his best efforts.
It is getting harder and harder for our closet Muslim in the White House (whose most beautiful sound is that of the call to Muslim prayer) to act surprised as his friends burn yet another country in the region.
Seriously, act surprised?
He could play the West End and Broadway by now with this kind of “acting” skill.
It so comical that even Abbas didn’t know about the agreement till it was ready
Anyway here is my take on it in comic book format.
http://newjewishmedia.com/2011/04/30/squeezing-life-peace/
“It was Obama who suggested a full settlement freeze,” Abbas explained. “I said OK, I accept. We both went up the tree. After that, he came down with a ladder and he removed the ladder and said to me, jump. Three times he did it.”
That ended the peace process, the endless talks that go nowhere and sent the Palestinians off to the UN.
The world saw what happened to 41 the dispute with Israel help to cost him a second term. This will be in play after September and no one can stop it, if another President is elected.
The art of war your enemies strength is his weakness. Your strength the Lobby is now your weakness. You want the US veto and you get it, but that is the weakness, so the Lobby see the US and the President as a puppet which they can control, which makes the US powerless and impotent to bring pressure to bare.
But that will not stop unilateral sanctions and a BDS campaign and the perception of Israel as an apartheid state and the pressure that the US is impotent at bring to bare to create a two state solution.
After September and it goes to the UNSC and the US veto, they can no longer be the main broker of the peace process, the US will lose their political capital, as Netanyhu has refused to give up any land, he knew what Obama meant by 1967 the same as past Presidents he was saying no to a two state solution. So the US are going to veto a Palestinian State and become part of the so-called occupation, not a peace broker.
They will have no political capital, they will have the same amount as Israel which is not a lot give that anywhere between 130 to 178 will vote for a Palestinian State before it heads to the UNSC.
Rahm allegedly warned of a disengagement policy.
Netanyahu stance is predictable and he has done all the work. The Palestinians have never had an original idea in their life so the Palestinian may not be aware but that is the US acting covertly, go back to the beginning of the post.