The Monumental Difference Between Pearl Harbor and September 11th
A monumental difference exists between the two epic attacks on American soil — Pearl Harbor and September 11th.
Pearl Harbor has been resolved. September 11th has not and may never be in our lifetimes and beyond.
That is a bleak but inescapable conclusion.
Pearl Harbor precipitated an all-out war with Japan and, shortly after, Germany, which ended after a few exceptionally brutal years. Japan and Germany (after unification) then became our allies and are now, even in the current context, prosperous, modern democratic states.
September 11th has precipitated no such thing. From the beginning we were unsure how to name our adversary (or unwilling to) and how to deal with him or her. That has only become worse. Now we live in a time when we can’t even call the perpetrator of the Ft. Hood massacre a jihadist even though he was taking his marching orders from a man we killed because he was a jihadist.
At this same moment, the entire Middle East is morphing into a fundamentalist Islamic mega-state under the nonsensical rubric of the “Arab Spring.” Meanwhile, like docile sheep we line up at airports to take off our shoes and have our genitals examined. Most of our children cannot remember what it was to fly without this humiliating inconvenience. One time — in a universe far, far away — we used to walk those same children onto the plane to go see their relatives. Remember that? Remember those days? As far as we can tell, they are gone forever.
My sentiments, exactly. Thanks.
Among numerous other reasons that the Left has allied itself with radical Islam, they like the opportunity to increase their control over the population.
That’s the real reason for the idiotic airport patdowns. Everybody knows there are far more effective ways to detect terrorists for far lower costs. The Israelis have proven it. The argument over effectiveness is closed. The way we do it is a failure. Of course, the fact that it’s a jobs program for incompetent people who will therefore vote democrat is also a factor. As is having a reason to spread billions of dollars around to the left’s fascist allies. Bush really struck out on that one.
Future republican presidents, if there are any, should never ever put a large new bureaucracy in place. It doesn’t matter how good an idea it seems in the moment, the leftists will eventually get their hands on it and use it to tear down the country.
TSA, DHS, Patriot Act and more. All these things were grave errors.
As for the islamic war (yeah – I’m calling it what it is), we probably should have just nuked four cities. 4 planes = 4 cities. One of them Mecca.
Those who sew an evil (Fascist or Islamo-Fascist) wind should rightly reap a rightous whirlwind.
I hate reflecting pools and “groves of remembrance.”
If I had my way, the memorial at Ground Zero would be a scale model of the Towers in steel the moment after the second plane hit, and there would be eternal flames in both of them.
The Towers would be set in a plaza that was a scaled map of lower Manhattan and Brooklyn, and they would be surrounded by scale models in bronze of the buildings around the Towers as they were that day. There would be bronze flakes scattered in the terrazzo map that was the floor of this plaza, showing the pattern/direction of the burning memoranda, borne on the wind, that floated over Brooklyn as the Towers came down.
Those seeking remembrance would be able to walk among these buildings and see, replicated in miniature, what happened today. They would be able to see the names of those who died on the planes and in the Towers, including the names of the would-be rescuers, carved into the surrounding perimeter wall. And to get there they would walk on the names of the terrorists, carved into the pavement of the entrance pathways.
I’ve hated those open graves of endless tears since the prize was rewarded. Thanks for giving us something that would have made sense. And would not have become a set of baby seats for tourists.
Your conception is very literal, but actually kind of visually interesting. Definitely more original and specific than the usual cheap, unimaginative knockoff of Maya Lin. I wish modern monuments could express resolve, dedication, gratitude, even horror – anything beyond/in addition to mourning and “remembrance.” Some of the European and Israeli Holocaust memorials do work, but American memorials since about 1980 tend to the obvious and mawkish.
It seemed to me that a more genuine commemoration of the event was needed than could be provided by the Bad Landscaping School of memorial designs. The Bad Landscaping School says nothing; it is a way to dodge any statement so that a committee can feel safe approving it.
We do not, alas, produce heroic commemorative sculpture in this country any more. Part of this is due to the triumph of abstraction—we have no St. Gaudens, no Daniel Chester French. The cartoons of Tom Otterness or Jeff Koons are not equal to the task. Eric Fischl, to his credit, did a sculpture shortly after 9/11—”Falling Man”—which recalls some of the horror of the day, but which is, in my opinion, too much a commemoration of victimhood to adorn a memorial.
In the face of this artistic vacuum, recalling the event by freezing a moment of the day in sculpted stone and metal seemed the best way to ensure that memory of the actual occurrence would continue, inviting contemplation which could lead to shock, horror and anger without being overwhelming, mawkish, or bland.
” And to get there they would walk on the names of the terrorists, carved into the pavement of the entrance pathways.”
Walking on the names of the terrorists is good given the Arab convention of using shoes to express disgust. I’d also like to see the terrorists’ names engraved on the inside of the toilet bowls of public washrooms nearest the memorial. That would enable visitors “express” their deepest sentiments exactly where they should be expressed….
Why don’t we just rebuild the towers – exactly as they were but with a disaster escape route built in. Business as usual on every floor except for one where we keep all of the captured terrorists and line the walls with pictures of Mohammed and copies of the Koran.
Before 911 we did not have government spying on all of U.S., and now we do! This must end, and stop!
Drones Over America Jun 17, 2012
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=krO566t8y-E
“They who can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary safety deserve neither liberty nor safety.”
Benjamin Franklin
Simon, there never was a drawing together of the people after 9-11 that I could see. Only a very public desire to bleed out in front of the world and the enemy. For our valiant first responders in the throes of the crisis, proof that G_d will reach out to touch and save individuals, but not nations……….
SSGN Kazan: First Radically New Sub in Russian Navy
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Well put. All this, and we have nearly twice as many mosques in the U.S. as we had 11 years ago today…
One word:
Nukes.
Aimed at whom, pray tell? As Roger points out, even identifying the enemy has proven difficult. It isn’t an easily identifiable enemy such as Japan, rather a more amorphous enemy of “Islamic Radicals” or some such thing. God bless the victims and heroes of 9-11.
They are all muslims. Nuke four muslim cities – one being Mecca or Medina (both are in Saudi Arabia). Take out Kabul, Tehran, Bagdad and then when they whine (and they would have whined – whaaaaa wha’d WE do?) just tell them that 14 muslims took out four planes and we took out four muslims cities. Either get you people under control or we’ll do it for you.
Next target WILL be Mecca.
That might have got them thinking instead of their usual seething.
It might also send the price of oil to about $500 a barrel, collapsing Western economies. How long would the American economy last without gasoline and home heating oil?
It might also invite nuclear retaliation from Pakistan, which probably has about fifty or so nuclear warheads.
And every outraged Muslim on earth–all 1.4 billion of them–would rise up in jihad against the U.S. You would have major insurrections right here in America, as well as in every other Western country.
President Bush reportedly said: “If this becomes America vs. Islam, America will lose.” He was right.
Japan and Germany and Italy were pretty much fighting alone (some token support from some Eastern European countries) against an alliance consisting of America, Russia and the British Empire.
In the post-9-11 era, it’s America that would be fighting alone against the entire Muslim world. In the end, we would lose.
Ok, then follow the Romney Ryan plan, become energy independent by 2020, and then vitrify the goat diddlers.
Of _course_ coercion works; History is filled with bloody proofs.
The US could take the Saudi oilfields, the Pakistani nukes, and
the Iranian nuclear sites, were it willing to shed enough blood.
What the US _should_ do is employ an updated, automated version
of another old and successful technique native to the Middle East:
Assassination of troublesome rulers.
So, you are a suurender-monkey. We lost before we even think of retaliating.
First, I don’t buy the scenario about oil prices. Their economies would have collapsed long before ours. Countries with the most to lose would probably have invaded themselves to secure their countries energy independance. Nice socialist countries would be ruthless when they think they’ll lose the power to push their own people around.
Secondly, we get most of our oil from Canada and Mexico. We get very little from the ME.
And thirdly, WE are the Saudi Arabia of coal, oil shale, natural gas along with our traditional oil resources. We just need someone in charge willing to develope it. Someone who would smash the eco-nazi stranglehold on the courts seizing up the bulding and licensing process.
Caution you call it. Cowardice I call it.
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Well, I have to point out, then we would drill our own oil (the the world could pay whatever they wanted for theirs), and thumb our nose at Pakistan, which has no way to get its bombs here without our detecting them on their slow journey in cargo ships. And the Muslim uprising? Great! Then we can get the ammunition out of the closet and shoot them without being arrested, since a state of war would obviously be in effect.
Pakistan can’t hit us, for they have neither submarines nor ICBMs. Their missiles can’t even reach Israel.
Beginning to think or feel, the only guts left in our nation reside in folks
like Lolly.
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“Aimed at whom, pray tell?”
Start with Mecca.
Play it by ear from there
Next question?
Let’s roll.
“September 11th has precipitated no such thing”
Because while many would like to call our fighting in the sand box a war one thing is missing
It is not an all out war. It is a police action with some heavy fighting mixed in. By no means is the USA pounding the whole place into little tiny pieces. Going door to door cave to cave killing off the enemy each and every last one that fights…..that is the difference.
Today between media and political implications I do not believe any American leader has the guts to actually fight to win a war.
WWII was the last time we actually fought a war to win the war without regards to hearts and minds. Then we had the bright idea to create the U. N. When we gave our rules of engagement over to lawyers and world opinion we surrendered our ability to fight to win.
We soundly destroyed any desire for the German and Japanese people to continue fighting and at least int he case of Japan, we dictated the place of religion contained in their new Constitution (freedom of personal choice, no mention of Shintoism and the deification of the emperor). Then, with compassion and the strength of the U.S. economy, we rebuilt two of the strongest democratic economies in history.
In Iraq, and Afghanistan, we played tender heart with the population that supported the enemy, tried to win hearts and minds, let them form new constitutions based on sharia, and we’ve accomplished nothing and wasted much.
WWII was the last time we fought a war with adversaries who could actually inflict strategically significant damage to the US.
That is the key point. Everything since has been police action or war by proxy where the superpowers have avoided direct confrontation.
If we, as a nation, honestly believed we could see a 9/11 every month in any major US city the response would have been different. As it was, it was a one-off event. Massive & tragic but not perceived as a direct threat once the fires were extingushed and the rubble cleared.
Japan devastated the Pacific fleet and had it not been for the good fortune of the carriers being at sea they would have followed up I’m sure with strategic attacks on the West Coast. People saw the direct threat.
The threat from Islam (it’s shown itself to be all radical islam) is more subtle and insidious. It’s there but it works at a different level.
Folks who don’t understand they should pay back mortgages and can’t see basic economic realaties at work are not mentally equipped to honestly understand the threat and the interplay it has in our dealing with the world. It is too much effort compared to watching the latest episode of Jersy Shore.
9/11 was a test run to evaluate not the scope or intensity of our CAPACITY to retaliate, but OUR WILL TO DO SO. We failed that test…in every conceivable way possible:
* We have betrayed the honor of our dead by more than a decade’s dithering.
* We have approved a “counter-monument” WHICH IS AN “IN YOUR FACE” AFFRONT. COUNTRY.
* Even a good warrior, in my view, Bush 2, was tricked into speaking about Islam as a “religion of peace”–MILLIONS WILL DIE BECAUSE OF THAT ERROR.
* We HEAP BILLIONS UPON OUR ENEMIES, CLAIMING THEY ARE “ALLIES AND FRIENDS”–it is really tribute to lesser nations.
* THE ULTIMATE DISGRACE–WE ELECT A MANCHURIAN CANDIDATE, A MUSLIM, AND A TRAITOR TO ALL WE HOLD DEAR, WHO PROCEEDS TO WEAKEN, DIMINISH, AND DISANIMATE US AT EVERY TURN.
WEEP FOR THIS COUNTRY–and then elect Romney and Ryan. They have CONCRETE PLANS AND POLICIES FOR THE MIDDLE EAST AS WELL AS THE ECONOMY–nation by natio–LOOK THEM UP AT http://www.mittromney.com/issues/middle-east
AMEN…
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Ben Swann Reality Check takes a look the expanse of drones over U.S. soil and how they will affect your 4th Amendment rights!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CvBL2TTVwVY&feature=plcp
He has seen the future. BUT, Americans can awake and be FEROCIOUS when well informed and led. In this regard; two points: 1) Our preservation of rights includes THE BALLOT BOX and THE SELECTION OF OUR LEADERS AND THEIR POLICIES; 2) We also have a remarkable capacity for “invention”–superior techical skills which I believe will produce “home grown” ANTI-DRONE CAPABILITIES. Think “electronic and weaponry guerilla warfare” in the states. New devices, computer programs, arms and armament which can sense, defeat, destroy, and spoof drones of all varieties.
I’m not talking about a redneck with a 20 gauge shooting wildly at objects in the heavens–WE HAVE SUCH A MARVELOUS CAPACITY AT CREATION OF NEW TOOLS, TECHNOLOGIES, AND YES, DEFENSIVE CAPABILITIES when need is known. Furthermore,those clever Koreans have a positive genius at electronis.
I’m not talking civil war–I’m talking about the LEGAL RIGHT OF LAND POSSESSORS TO PREVENT INCURSIONS OVER THEIR PROPERTY. There is an entire BODY OF LAW SUPPORATIVE OF SUCH RIGHTS, subject to (a) outer space situated and government operated equipment (Yeah, I can see it now: “Hey, Major, task Satellite #3619 to Nebraska to look at Joe Jones’ field for unlawful drugs beng raised along with the corn”–sure. Can you say: “Cost/benefit debacle?”) and b) express legal limitations on a property owner’s claims to rights above his land BASED ON “AIRCRAFT” EXCEPTIONS to privacy rules.
Check it out! Cuius est solum eius est usque ad coelum et ad inferos a doctrine of law which translated means: “whoever owns [the] soil, [it] is theirs all the way [up] to Heaven and [down] to Hell)” [subject to aircraft exception and other doctrines.
Remember the “spy on your neighbor with our new “DRONE PACKAGE” ads? IN THAT SITUATION, A 20 GUAGE CAN BE FOLLOWED WITH A BREACH OF PRIVACY SUIT WHEREBY YOU “LITERALLY” OWN YOUR NEIGHBORS HOME. Isn’t the law wonderful?
Unfortunately, the difference is that between fighting a country and fighting a trans-national ideology. There aren’t uniformed troops flying flags to defeat on a battlefield. It’s an asymetrical war where the other side dare not confront our military might directly. Thus we get snipers and IEDs while our soldiers struggle to figure out who is friend and who is foe.
Our main problem is that we can’t even name the enemy – how can you fight what you can’t define? Actually, we can define it just fine – it’s simply impolitic to do so. That’s one thing that used to drive me nuts about calling it the “war on terror.” What mindless PC drivel. That’s like calling WWII in Europe a “war on blitzkreig.” Now, with Obama, we call it “man-caused disasters.” Pathetic.
Time to wake up. Iran’s busy turning plowshares into some heavy duty scimitars. Meanwhile, Nero-Obama fiddles on…
When our leaders are traitors, our Republic suffers. BIG CHANGE HERE SOON.
Billy Shakespeare said it well: ” Cry havoc! and let slip the dogs of war, that this foul deed shall smell above the earth with carrion men, groaning for burial.” The US SOLDIER has been most competent, deadly, and successful warrior in the world’s history.
NOW, they have been so abused, humiliated, and bound with rules of defeat, that the #1 cause of military deaths is KILLING THEMSELVES! FACT = “For the second year (2010) in a row, more US soldiers killed themselves (468) than died in combat (462).” SOURCE = http://www.projectcensored.org/top-stories/articles/1-more-us-soldiers-committed-suicide-than-died-in-combat/
FREE OUR TROOPS FROM TRAITORS AND RULES DESIGNED TO DESTROY THEIR SPIRITS AND KILL THEIR BODIES, AND OUR ENEMIES SHALL KNOW AGAIN, WHAT BILL S. WAS SAYING.
Pray God we see it soon. ROMNEY AND RYAN WIN BIG IN NOVEMBER
The attack at Pearl Harbor was by the military forces of Japan against our navy base in Hawaii. We knew exactly who did it, where they were and what it would take to defeat them militarily. We invaded their strongholds, sank their ships and bombed the crap out of them until they surrendered.
The attack on 9/11 was by Islamic radical terrorists mostly on a civilian target (but also a military one, the Pentagon). We figured out who did it but defeating terrorism is more difficult than defeating a nation militarily. Throw in all of the problems you mention and the challenge becomes even greater.
Spies and non-uniformed mercs are still state sponsored.
Kill the paymasters and break the culture and civilian support networks.
We did that to Kaiser and Bushido culture;
our government made a mutual business arrangement with Stalinists and Saudis.
And while we wait for that rarest of unicorns, the ‘Moderate Muslim(tm)’ to turn the tide, 10,000 more future Jihadis are born each and every day – and hundreds of millions listen to their daily dose of hatred on their TVs, radios, and mosques across the globe.
Since 9/11, emmigration by Muslims has INCREASED, not decreased to the USA, that hell-hole of Islamophobia. They have been wildly encouraged to do this by our moronic government.
Increasingly the pointy fingered Muslims lecture us from their perches in academia, the media, and from the top offices in the land including the White House, and all the alphabet soup Federal agencies – they are there, not to tell their fellow Muslims to behave, not to explain how we are not to be hated, but to bludgeon us for making their fellow Muslims hate us unto murder.
I wailed on 9/11. By a quirk, I awoke very early on the W. Coast soon after the first plane struck and before images began to play. The newsroom was silenced by the magnitude of the event unfolding. At first they confidently reported that a plane had “accidentally” collided with the WTC. The cameras began to roll. They pulled back as the people began to jump. When the second plane hit, some still couldn’t believe it. They surmised something had gone terribly wrong with aviation radars. It was too enormous to encompass. In may ways it still is. We prefer to explain the nightmare away. And we remain in that same befuddled fog of the first few moments of that Muslim obscenity.
But some of us know, because we looked into Islam, and finally learned what it’s all about. We’re still being lied to. ‘Moderate Muslims’ are a hoax, retailed to paper over what we really face, and what we really can’t face in this implaccable 1400 year-old foe. Muslims have raped the world before in other paroxysms of violence. They raped the remnants of the exhausted Roman Empire. They annihilated the Byzantine Empire. They destroyed great civilizations like Zoroastrian Persia, Hindu and Buddhist India, Christian Spain… I’ll say it here: Islam ushered in the Dark Ages in the West as their rapes and pillaging rampaged along Europe’s shores for centuries. Islam is ushering in a new dark age today.
And now, fueled but a century of unimaginable unearned wealth looted from the West again, Jihad is back with a vengeance,, attacking across the globe to finish what their filthy thieving founder began. The genocide and wanton destruction of superior civilizations will not cease until we destroy this enemy. But to suggest that is worse, apparently, than what the Muslims espouse openly to our faces.
Yes. Islam – unpaid Arab garrisons of Rome- created the Dark Ages.
The Goths wanted to become Roman, the Arab camp whores
following Mongols pburned every library they could, then stayed behind
after Attila, Timur the Lame, and Ghengis went back home.
Mo and Quran were composite fictions finalised centuries later,
same process and tradition as the Bible. Same area, too; a corrupt version with a killer christ.
Prisoner training, with continued poking in yer eye til they get the response they want.
The govt is a seperate state; they’re recruiting allies. Occupied.
So now drinks purchased after going through airport security are subject to testing ?
Like many in the Obama admin., Big Sis Napolitano seems driven by paranoid obsessiveness rather than by anything resembling common sense. She is particularly obsessed with domestic ‘right wing’ extremists.
Can’t call ‘em jihadists, but can hit ‘em with a drone when the SUV stops for breakfast in the Yemen desert.
Hasan has just been ordered to cut his Muslim compliant (and Army non-compliant) beard before his trial can go forward. I’ll bet Obama doesn’t like that ruling.
Recall right after Ft. Hood, when the president of the United States gave a shout out to a guy he was kissing up to in the audience before uttering his boilerplate remarks. Or when Janet Napolitano’s first reaction to the passengers jumping the guy trying to light up his underpants on his way to Detroit was to say “the system worked”.
Truly these people, and most others in this administration, are not worthy of the positions they hold and we the people are being ill “served”.
Sadly true.
America lives already under the lid of totalitarianism. It is not yet completely closed…
We certainly could not have won WWII with today’s mindset.
Imagine FDR deciding that a reaction to “Japanese” attacks was racist, and therefore, because anybody, really, might be planning an attack, instead of profiling Japanese aircraft as enemy, we would simply shoot down 10% of all aircraft.
When, about 2005 or so, I was on vacation with my wife and children we stopped at an interpretive center (Sideling Hill) and I saw the other family, the female in regalia, all kneeling on rugs…I can’t tell you how I felt. Probably like a woman who sees her rapist at the local pool.
“BACK IN THE CAR, FOLKS. NOW!”
The muslims, moderate, extreme, secular(!), who cares, have staked their claim.
9/11 is an historic day for them. The jihadists see it as a tremendous battle victory in a larger war. The moderates see it as a regretable but necessary precursor to a unified society. “What a shame it had to be that way, but…”
The secular muslims have only to be tapped on an as needed basis, to “rediscover” their latent “greatness.”
Never once saw a hijab outside of the largest cities in the 90′s. There, and at that time, no mention and no thought given and rightly so. Today, everywhere. And the girls are being put out there with the head coverings as well. Selective enforcement against head coverings in our boys’ public middle school. All post 9/11. Triumphalism in a thousand cuts.
A couple more differences between Pearl Harbor and the 9-11 atrocity:
- Surprise attack or not, the raid on Pearl Harbor was an attack against a miltary target, fully capable of defending itself. The 9-11 attack was the exact opposite – a cowardly, low blow, struck by snakes slithering among us.
- We faced suicide pilots in both events. The Japanese used kamikaze pilots (not at Pearl but later in the war) and always exclusively against military targets. The 9-11 vermin attacked defenseless people guilty of doing nothing more than going to work that day.
- In response, we nuked the Japanese. And they’ve been polite ever since.
- We tell NASA to conduct outreach to the Muslims. Hunh?
- You tell me how much we’ve changed. And not for the better.
Good point (Japanese attacked military targets – mooslims attack civilians)…while we remember 9/11, mooslims burn our flag in Cairo and our “president” allows the mooslimification and infestation of our government by fifth column islamists. This is terrible to contemplate, but true: it will take those bastards humping a suitcase nuke across the border and blowing Dallas, St. Louis or Denver to Mars to get this country focused and determined to fight these vermin like we can, and should. The dems only make us weaker – not stronger.
I agree with you BD. I do think it would take another – even more horrific – attack to wake us the f**k up. But if it does come, heaven forbid, the very first order of business needs to be to clean out the traitorous vermin here at home first. You need to keep home base covered and currently it ain’t. I’m talking about a whole host of treasonous bastards and organizations and institutions. Organizations like Code Pink and International Answer. And most of the so-called mainstream media. And much, if not most of the Democratic Party. The same party that did everything in it’s power to undermine and subvert the very methods and resources we needed to hunt down Bin-Laden. And then shamelessly take credit for killing him. Yeah, Obama. I’m talking about you.
In those days, the American mindset was not to turn our backs on friends and embrace enemies.
It was not to apologize for America’s history but to make it.
It was not to cavalierly throw away human life but to preserve it.
It was not to denigrate those who worshipped, but to admire their faith and fidelity.
It was not to distort the truth but to seek it.
It was not to restrain our natural resources but to utilize them.
It was not to envy prosperity but to achieve it.
It was not to lead from behind, to to blaze the trails of human accomplishment.
It was not to overload the system, but to springboard from it.
It was not to say “you didn’t build that” but to say you can build that.
It was not to …in the final analysis…to overthrow our freedoms and liberties, but to stand as sentries against those who would. From outside, as Germany and Japan. And, from inside. It is this latter war we are losing.
There is another significant difference between what happened after Pearl Harbor and the aftermath of the Twin Towers.
After Pearl, the entire nation rallied and went to war against first Japan and then Germany, and we fought that war until vicory was acheived four long years later.
In the fight against Moslem Terrorists, the United States Department of Defense has been at war since 11 September 2001, and America has been at the mall.
Like MacArthur said, “There is no substitute for victory”.
I prefer Eisenhower’s approach: “Total victory, nothing else.”
In World War II, we had three enemy nations: Germany, Japan and Italy.
How many Muslim nations are there today? And how do you defeat a Muslim ummah that outnumbers the population of the United States by 4 to 1 without turning Africa, the Middle East, Indonesia, Chechnya and even parts of China into radioactive glass?
Sure, the U.S. could nuke 40% of the world. But that would have real side effects. Even Greenpeace wouldn’t be worrying about global warming anymore.
Oh, and by the way: The radioactive fallout seeping across the Middle East would make life for Israelis rather difficult as well.
Don’t have to nuke them. Hunt down and kill as many wealthy Wahhabists as we can find. These are the people who fund the jihadis. (This is long overdue — should have done starting September 12, 2001.)
Then if the message isn’t getting through, start destroying the Saudi economy. Begin by taking over their oil fields and continue with electronic and other warfare against their banking, communication, and infrastructure systems.
Remember, the Saudis are people who hire out everything. As a result they have very little homegrown competence for doing the things that keep a modern economy running.
You have no idea about radiation and fallout. Israel would be fine.
I live in Northern Virginia – less than 5 miles from DC. If a nuke hit DC I’d be fine.
Well, if you got to the basement behind a concrete wall and stayed there for a couple of weeks…or if the wind was in the opposite direction.
Part of the war against terror is to cut off the flow of cash to the Arab states that fund jihad. Without their oil income, the Arabs are back to being the penniless goat herding savages they were before the west opened up their oil fields. Without the cash from oil, the Arabs starve and their tinpot states collapse in anarchy.
One strategy in that war is to delevop the North American carbon energy reserves to the exent that we take away the OPEC market. Never again should we put ourselves in the position of being held hostage to middle eastern oil production.
To that end, Obama may as well be a Saudi agent.
Good idea. Too bad he didn’t apply it in Korea, instead settling for the “truce” that Truman had stuck us with. That was after Truman fired MacArthur, who really did believe “There is no substitute for victory.”
But then Eisenhower didn’t like MacArthur very much, going back to Phillippine days.
Cold war means continued ‘biz-niss’
When USSR fell, Cinton Dems got busy robbing pension funds to lift China,
and actively ignoring the Atta crew’s large scale attacks, blaming them
on VWRC types or fuel tanks. Cheney’s crew helped with a little distraction
on 911.
Nothing but honest, god-fearin’ patrots up there in DC.
Bizniss is boomin’ today! Hey, its only biz, no CYA or opportunism in govt!
Remember the funny Enron accounting in Afghan?
Cheneys pipeline fell thru, Enron bankrupted, Taliban switched to our enemy.
Lay died and Dick became invisible.
Easy answer- criminal factions on both sides, trying to grow! And growing they are!
What are you maroons expecting, confessions?
They are still in business and in power!
I can’t help noticing that you are replying to yourself.
That’s usually not a good sign.
Maybe you need to just back away from the keyboard for a bit.
The doctor who helped in locating bin laden (conducted phony health tests on bin laden children that were really DNA tests) and who was promptly imprisoned has said the Pakistani ISI is thoroughly in the camp of Al Qaeda and only continues kissing up to the US for the cash, in the billions.
Yesterday, the US turned over Bagram prison built by us at the cost of millions to the locals in Afghanistan, while receiving assurances from the thoroughly corrupt Karzai that good standards of prosecution would be maintained.
Must make US soldiers feel good to see their work undone by the slimy political sorts infesting those 2 countries. Plus Panetta is threatening to prosecute the SEAL whose book revealed that the White House version of the raid on the bin laden compound was false.
The war we avoided fighting was against the terrorists in our own midst.
Eleven years now they’ve had to convince us they are “not our enemy”, the culmination of which was the election of our first Muslim President. (Nobody believes he is a Christian. Nobody.)
Since then the “Arab Spring” has surrounded Israel with mortal foes, and millions of Muslims have entered the country or have been converted. They are awaiting the word to kill us.
That word will be finalized soon after Obamee is able to scam his way to a second term.
ALL pilots flying into the towers were MUSLIMS – i.e. followers of Mohammed.
The towers were the target, not necessarily the people inside (that was just a benefit); since secularists, Christians and Muslims themselves have always, throughout history, been the casualties of the expansionist goals of Islam. The target was the financial heartbeat of America, and the signs of victory are the erection of mosques all over the place in the surrounding area; and the continuing jihad is political and so obvious that it’s ridiculous. The enemy; has been: still is and will be: Islam. Hey Dempsey!! Got that!!
Israel are facing an existential threat … and Dempsey doesn’t want to be “complicit” in an attack on Iran? What a moron!! The same wackos that are calling for the extermination of Israel are also calling for the extermination of these U.S.A. on a daily basis. I hope that Obama has a change of heart towards Israel so that we can reap the benefits; because if he doesn’t we’ll be reaping the consequences … the only viable thing we can do at this point is to pray.
anytime. the viable thing to do at this time is vote the prick out of office.
Do you really HOPE that Obama will change his heart and starts to name the enemy ?? Are you high on HOPIUM ? Obama IS a muslim ; and of the kind of closet muslim , more like a mole . he follows a muslim agenda : debase the USA everywhere, abandon the US allies ( Mubarak , Israel , and give a free ride to the extremists ( Iran nuclear program smooth sailing-Muslim brotherhood in Egypt propped up to seize power ). You have elected a muslim mole and you are about t give him another 4 years ….I am puzzled at the american naivity,,,
What is the point in all those weapons in the arsenal unless you intend to use them (a) to credibly threaten your enemies, and (b) destroy all who don’t listen and insist it’s just a bluff?
A nuclear Iran is no cause for fear in the US. Israel is another matter — which is why Israel needs clear and unqualified support.
Yet we now act as though events control us, as if waffle and lies are the only tools we know. That’s the road of no return, leading to a French lifestyle as cheese-eating surrender monkeys.
Ultimately, we’ll end up with the gov’t we deserve.
The United States government has not, and will not do the will of the American people. Instead, it has a New Age agenda of attacking States trying to stop the illegal alien invasion, supporting Israel’s enemies, and supporting the pagan holiday of blood to birth a Muslim Brotherhood WTO region 4.
The events of 9-11 were suspected by mid-level FBI agents. There still is illegal alien moon god worshipers learning to fly, preaching hate in their pagan shrines to the god of the Kaabba, and growing stronger inside these United States.
Get ready for more drought, weird storms, earthquakes, and social upheavel. My prayers to the innocent lives lost on 9-11, and to the military lives lost fighting the enemy.
BZO, or Die!
“They who can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary safety deserve neither liberty nor safety.”
Benjamin Franklin
They who endlessly parrot a quote everyone’s already heard a thousand times as though it were some novel bit of wisdom are neither novel nor wise.
I’d like to kindly suggest you refrain from unnecessary and rude comments.
wise words need repeating
Dick Cheney and Ken Lay parachuting in, gun’s a-blazin’!
Cheney roared “Follow me boys!” to the cheering troops as Lay lobbed
grenades.
Jack Murtha and John Kerry on secret missions to save Pat Tilman and the newly rich
Pakistani doctor who tipped Bin Laden!
Hey, and did you hear they increased the chocolate ration!
Alzaebo!
Airstrip One, open for business. First order of business…Of course, we have always been at war with East Asia. Double Plus Good!
- Winston S.
If you have never gotten to know a WWII combat vet, I recommend it. They are becoming rare. They are the last Americans who fought a declared war and won. Two differences with today’s Americans stick with me. In the weeks after Pearl Harbor, enormous numbers went down and signed up. The entire nation pitched in. If Obama asked for millions of volunteers to serve under his command, would he be successful? Do you trust him to gain victory, a real peace?
The second major differences is that most combat grunts were told and expected to either die in combat, get a million dollar wound and come back home, or conquer their enemy. In the war, most expected to die in combat; it was the norm. Every body thought it possible that they could conquer us.
How many expect to conquer our enemy in the longest war the US has ever fought? How many expect to be killed, or conquered by our enemy? How will you know him? When will peace come? There are big differences between 1941 America and 2001 America.
I WANTED to be called! Islam’s mercenary industry must be broken!
Too tempting for politicals to resist, like sovietist subversion.
We coulda saved the world!
And then expose and war on the political criminal factions!
USSR down, China poor, Islam fractured, Internet on, we had the tools!
They’ve regrouped and seized our tools- thats their goal and business model.
Like I said the other day in the fullness of time we’ll be sorry we didn’t send the Air Force. Two weeks would have done it and everybody on the planet would know that 9-11 was a huge mistake.
Amen, send me with a nuke to Mecca and tell all I was gone rogue.
I dont need to learn how to land.
I wish this article were not true. I wish I could condemn it.
Used to hang my flag on 9/11, but not anymore. In fact, my heart has grown colder about many fellow Americans shortly after that day, though it wasn’t that way initially. At a minimum, I hold them in contempt.
If I had my way, anybody that called our military mercenaries in Iraq or Afghanistan, would have been put in front of a firing squad on the White House steps.
I’m afraid that 9/11 will eventually be known not when America came together and a day of reflection and remembrance, but a day of mourning when we begin to fall apart. We’ll grow to curse this day as the beginning of an entirely new war – not just a war again Islam, but a war of countryman against countryman. Islam was no threat to our grand existence, until its perverted mindset adopted by the American Left too.
And the sad fact is, these ‘infidels’ on the Left have no idea they are party to it, foolish enough to even celebrate it. These fools will celebrate the death of Bin Laden, never recognizing they’re accomplishing his objective.
We overreacted, gave up our privacy, many liberties, maybe even our freedoms under the false promises of safety and political correctness. And we will finish it under the guise of social justice and regulation.
And sadly all of that was precisely their intention.
The cause of 9/11 – Islam, Koran, Mosques and Muslims still very much exists and there are more of all of them not just in the world but in the U.S. than at the time of 9/11.
By far the biggest difference between 9/11 and Pearl Harbor was that with Pearl Harbor our politicians and our media immediately recognized the enemy, while after 9/11 and even 11 years later our politicians and our media do not.
By far the biggest difference between 9/11 and Pearl Harbor was that with Pearl Harbor our politicians and our media and our Generals immediately recognized the enemy, while with 9/11, and even 11 years later, our politicians and our media and our generals do not.
The difference between then and now is the the communists in this country had not penetrated the agenda, the language, the cultural institutions, and our immigration policy. We are sliding into oblivion. As planned.
“Pearl Harbor has been resolved. September 11th has not and may never be in our lifetimes and beyond.” Exactly.
The only closure will be when Americans and their government — I’m a Canadian — wake up to the fact that the war on terror is real and when America’s enemies inside the country and government are acknowledged and dealt with.
As long as the multicultural myth that all cultures and religions are “equal” remains alive, there can be no closure. Jihadist Muslims and their supporters in the U.S. and the Middle East are waging a war on the free world and until Leftard multiculturalists get their heads out from up their a**es and throw off their denial, we’re no better off than we were on 9/11.
If I had lost a loved one in the 9/11 attacks, I’d feel betrayed by Obama’s government and the consensus media who have the back of Muslim extremists and who perpetuate the myth of all-cultures-are-equal while bashing the Judeo-Christian religion which is the foundation and defender of our democratic freedoms in the West.
Until Americans and their government stop denying the obvious, that there is an enemy and, yes, they’re out to end America’s democracy, often from within the U.S. and its government, there will be no resolution of this conflict. All cultures are not alike. The Judeo-Christian culture on which Western democracies were founded is far superior to the jihadist, Shari’a culture. If that fact can’t or won’t be grasped, then this war is going to drag on and on, with no good outcome possible.
Thanks, kjh, well said.
Those of us old enough to retain vivid memories of the Japanese sneak attack of 1941, and compare the very bloody four years afterwards – with a like period after that 2001 Muslim sneak attack and the current continued, retained, and expanded Muslim penetration and subversion of our America this long after 2001…… seem to be unable to shout from the rooftops and be heard.
There is now a public separateness, an aloofness, that we really don’t have a Muslim problem, and that if we only just look the other way, they’ll be gone after we turn our heads. Contrasted with the galvanized, unified anti-Japanese fervor of 1942 and onwards…..gradually fading as we bought their products en masse, and witnessed their transformation towards a sometimes raucus Democracy.
Our Congress seems mired now in this nauseous “political correctness” about being afraid to cite openly that Islam is an existential threat to our America. Mustn’t “offend” our sworn Muslim enemy who repeatedly affirms their long-term aim of suffocating our Western Culture. This current “administration” is avoiding any confrontation with our Muslim enemies, and is mainly concerned with vote- and political point- counting above all else.
We’ve only ourselves to blame…rather, those who voted Obama in office are to blame…..and we run the very near risk of giving that “administration” another go at appeasement. Mr Chamberlain!…call your Office!
The Muslim-Islamist sophisticated strategy of “lawfare” and the stridency of the C.A.I.R and the A.C.L.U. comprise now a Fifth Column (how many readers even know, now, the real meaning of that Cold War term?…..) and, are apparently outwitting the Congress, who seem cowed by the same stridency from our media and academics who remain above the fray.
This voter first cast a Military Absentee vote for Dwight Eisenhower.
Any comparison of the two Presidents, by any standard at all, is frankly sickening. I like say that Obama personifies “nadir”.
The rot began immediately after the Japanese surrendered, with pell-mell demobilization. And it was firmly in control as of June 1950. That was when we failed to respond intelligently to North Korea’s invasion of the south.
The Truman administration sent US troops into a violent shooting war against an enemy as fanatical as the Japanese had been. But it flinched at going for victory, even though we had vastly more war-making power than both of the puppet-masters (China, Soviet Union) who stood behind North Korea.
An attitude of refusing to do what victory requires has prevailed in every conflict we’ve had ever since. As a result we’ve squandered tens of thousands of soldiers’ lives, while earning the contempt of every worthless, troublemaking regime on the planet.
If you want to explore in more detail these idiocies, past and continuing, see Advice to War Presidents: a Remedial Course in Statecraft by Angelo Codevilla.
Pearl Harbor Naval Base is a military target, thus acceptable to attack. 9/11 Attack was targeted towards civilians, not acceptable.
Mr. Simon, I agree with your observations and articles most of the time and this time again. We are in a holding pattern of political nonsense where the average educated and free thinking people feel like you write. I am one of the sheeple to the point that I fly far less than I use to. I did after 9-11 but as nonsense piled on top of stupidity I said, why bother being herded by people that are selected because they can’t think for themselves. There is more anxiety now than ever before.
George W Bush was a very honest man, and a very caring one. Yet in being a national leader he was weak. His weakness, based in a sense of being caring, went against what was needed to be done as Commander in Chief and national Chief Executive. That weakness allowed the national disunity to fester and foster, and the forces of evil within us, as a nation, as people within a nation, to grow unchecked. We left the bad forces in Iraq beaten but unvanquished, and we fed the re-growth of corruption and hatreds there with easy oil money. Today Iraq is officially a Israel-hating and Jew-phobic state. GWB did not adequately defend his war actions against our very real enemies, nor did he completely defeat them. And that weakness in defense of valid and needed National Leadership action also showed in response to Hurricane Katrina, or rather the bad-mouthing LIES spread by America’s own self-haters about the response to Katrina. In fact the FEDERAL response to Katrina was the most massive and quickest in all of human history to such a disaster.
Popular Science reported “REALITY: Bumbling by top disaster-management officials fueled a perception of general inaction, one that was compounded by impassioned news anchors. In fact, the response to Hurricane Katrina was by far the largest–and fastest-rescue effort in U.S. history, with nearly 100,000 emergency personnel arriving on the scene within three days of the storm’s landfall. Dozens of National Guard and Coast Guard helicopters flew rescue operations that first day–some just 2 hours after Katrina hit the coast.” See “Debunking the Myths of Hurricane Katrina: Special Report- Popular Mechanics”, 15 Feb 2006.
Yet the news media and popular media big mouths excoriated Bush for his response. All of that was LIES. And it debased the Office of the President to let them stand yet George Bush REFUSED to properly mount a public defense.
Instead he allowed his authority — the office he held — to be “Talked down”. Then when a real fiscal emergency occurred in late 2008 — albeit itself a creation of international financiers bent on the destruction of the might of the US — Mr. Bush was UNABLE TO WIELD THE MORAL AND POLITICAL STRENGTH TO FIGHT IT. Because he was weak in defending the good name and moral authority of the Office of President.
Weakness in a Leader breeds demoralization, havoc, and chaos in the organization he must lead. In a NATIONAL LEADER it will come to breed economic and social dislocation, chaos, and destabilizing political forces that can tear a nation apart. We are there now. And if not repaired (please VOTE ROMNEY and NO DEMOCRATS) it will lead to bloodshed and war.
Once a leftist – even with second thoughts – shaking the left’s way of thinking is difficult.
Mr Simon’s comparison between Pearl Harbor and 9/11 is misplaced. In part because Mr. Simon misreads our responses and in part because if the attack on Pearl Harbor had been limited to Pearl Harbor our response would almost certainly been dramatically different from what it was.
The two events that do show both a real and fundamental difference in political foundations are our response to 9/11 compared to our response to the British sacking of our Capital.
Our response to Pearl Harbor was not because the Japanese attacked Pearl harbor alone. It was because on that day Japan attacked Pearl Harbor and Singapore, and invaded the Philippines, and carried out sustained attacks in Malaysia and Thailand.
It was unmistakable as to the Japanese intentions. Had Japan restricted its attack to Pearl Harbor alone it is doubtful our responses would have gone further than some operations against Japan and a destruction of as much of their fleet as was feasible.
Our response would likely have been limited – just like 9/11.
When the British sacked our Capital,James Monroe was our Secretary of State. He correctly saw the attack as an attempt to destroy the American Republic. He correctly saw the attack as one on American Sovereignty itself.
Monroe then became President and his and our county’s response was the Monro Doctrine. Monroe effectively prevented any power from coming within striking distance of the United States.
After 9/11 we did not see our enemy as one that would destroy our nation if it could, and we did not respond in kind to make sure no terrorist power could come in striking distance of the United States.
Hell, we’ve invited them inside our own government….we’re covered up with islamists at State and Defense for God’s sake. How stupid does this have to get before the American public will find the courage to yell “ENOUGH DAMMIT – NO MORE!!!”
Every time I see pics of innocent people jumping out of the twin towers, I get pissed. I’m still pissed and indeed living in Madland where we are more worried about the sales going on this week, or the new TV season. The pot is about to boil.
Can’t quote the esteemed “Spengler”, he’s much better with words than me, but he draws a very bright line that connects the leftists to the Muslims. Paganism. All I hear from people in control, and who should know better, “who you gonna believe? Me or your lying eyes?”
Don’t ever tell me he’s a great orator again. “Fellatist” does not equal “orator”.
I wonder who actually programs the Monkey-in-Chief’s teleprompter. Someone must, because he doesn’t seem to have a single working brain cell. You’d think that would be more important than interviewing, for the umpteenth time, the dying-of-old-age moms and dads of NYC firefighters who died that day. We get it. It was a tragedy.
So was my perfectly healthy wife dying at 42 from breast cancer. Noone makes much of a fuss about it any more, and that is entirely as it should be. If someone proposed a memorium to commemorate her bad luck, I would’ve stopped going years ago.
Not to mention that 12 years after Pearl Harbor, we had begun to rebuild Japan into a great power and nation. All we do to the benighted Arabs is continue to say we’re sorry that they are so frikkin’ retarded!
You vote for an idiot because he’s a black idiot. You appease nasty Arabs because they’re obviously too stupid and primitive to behave.
So, tell me once more, who’s the damn racist?
Not to worry, Rog. Israel will stop or delay a nuclear Iran for you, while your ‘security establishment’ undermines it every step of the way.
The issue of the Wahhabists is very serious. Maybe that’s one subliminal reason why people prefer to postpone a confrontation with Iran – because after that they would have to start breaking the American-Saudi nexus. Barack Obama certainly won’t, and it’s highly unlikely that Mitt Romney would try. Perhaps by developing US energy sources – maybe.
Trying to defeat a guerrilla terrorist organization by killing the member is mistaken. Target what is dear to them. Attack what they would turn to defend. We’re too squeamish for that. So we should just hire Putin. The Mecca, Medina order of battle is a good idea. I’d turn Israel loose on east Jerusalem, also. Once you get them massed on a battlefield it is a minor matter from there.
seems people worry more about the citizens of the countries that sponsored the attacks than our own soldiers.
flatten them, its not our politicians job to give a damn about another countries citizens.
bunch of pussies.
Just a thought, maybe we should have let Saddam have the Saudi oil fields. Once we got rid of him we unleashed forces against groups that even Saddam left alone. And besides, it is Saudia Arabia financing most of the Islamic crap causing the trouble in the world. If the devil himself took over the Saudi fields, he would still have had to sell the oil.
I saw a video of crazed Muslims (sorry for the redundancy) burning three accused homosexuals alive in Iraq. Where are the leftists? I guess when it comes to women’s rights, Gay rights, and Muslim rights, Muslims take precedence. Then there are the 17 “partiers” beheaded by the Taliban for dancing. I guess there are no words in Pashtun or whatever for “Knock it off.” Instead, it’s automatic death for anything against the Koran. In the words of Yaphet Koto in “Alien,” “It’s got a great defense mechanism.” That’s the Koran. Anything against it warrants death.
Sept.11th in Egypt…
http://www.ynetnews.com/articles/0,7340,L-4280193,00.html
Sept.11th in Libya….
http://www.israelnationalnews.com/News/News.aspx/159886#.UE_1BBwU4QM
And here in Israel -
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CRPYTiN5Oso
While the articles about Libya and Egypt are both about events that took place on September 11, 2012, the video from Israel took place on September 11, 2009, three years earlier.
We are losing this war ( for lack of a better term) because of three main related items;
A) Refuse to publically and properly identify key players, their roles and involvement.
B) Reaction to 9/11 was completely mismanaged
C) People like FBI SAIC John O Neil were actively suppressed by White House to avoid his investigations leading to Saudi Sources for terror.
A)Saudi Arabia funds terror cells in Pakistan, funds Hamas, Funds Muslim Brotherhood, Funds Sharia Movement worldwide including dozens of Sharia Schools in USA, funded terrorist attack in Mumbai, has been implicated in weapons smuggling and money laundering to terrorist organizations, and many more actions promoting terror against western nations. They have been openly accomplishing this with US assistance and willful ignorance by the American people.
B) Initial response to 9/11 was to safely escort all Saudi’s out of the USA to safe haven, denying the FBI role and interview members of the royal family that fund global terror. We cut the legs out from under our own security services, within hours of the Attack.
B)Military response to 9/11 was to implicate Iraq though no evidence exists they had any role in attack, and invade a nation that was providing counterbalance to Iranian expansion and Nuclear Ambition. The W. Bush administration allowed Neocon war bunnies to over rule common sense and give them their desperately desired invasion of Iraq.
H. Bush was too smart and firm for Neocons to force his hand, W. Bush was far weaker and gave them their day. Unfortunately the Nation is paying the bills in blood and deficits for his weakness.
C) There is legislation moving through congress that will force proper investigation of the Role Saudi Arabia played in the 9/11 attacks and their involvement in global terror. If this actually moves forward,There will be no place left for Saudi’s to hide.
The role Carlyle group of defense companies, Halliburton, and the like will also be laid out for the public to understand what truly occurred in the days after 9/11. John o Neil will be vindicated, and people in our government and business leaders should be tried for treason against the United States, after we exact our pound of flesh from Saudi Arabia.
Maybe when we face truth and allow reality to set in will we have progress in how we view 9/11.
Abdullah murdered three brothers to seize the throne for the Rebel 5 princes and cast out the Bush allies.
He then threatened to collapse our currency abroad and our banks at home if we didnt do something about the arms buildup next door in Iraq.
Cant lose our petrodollar credit card, there might be a financial crisis. Thats the weakness the Dems saw and built upon to engineer their own seizure of power.
The Japanese purposely ambushed American armed forces out of a clear blue sky. The Islamists purposely ambushed American civilians, unarmed and unsuspecting, out of a clear blue sky. That is the most important difference.
The immediate aftermath of 9/11 was much the same as that of December 5th, 1941. The American people arose as one. Roosevelt, like Bush, promised justice and called for our mighty resolve.
But in Roosevelt’s time there was no disloyal Democrat opposition (“This war is lost!”); no Code Pink; no domestic anti-American media; no New York Times; no Dan Rather; no glimmer of an MSNBC … and Free Europe (what was left of it, back then) had no ill-words whatsoever to speak of us.
What a difference 70 years can make, eh?
Terror has already won the war. The Muslim world is rising and we have removed any mention of Islamic extremists for fear that we might anger CAIR. We move closer to a police state at a high rate of speed hunting for terrorists that do not exist. All the while leaving the border open so real terrorists can cross without leaving any paper trails. Americans can be held without due process forever, they don’t even need to notify your family. Worse yet they can even kill you without due process. American Military running training ops in our cities in violation of our Constitution. TSA patrols our streets in VIPR teams stopping trucks and searching for IED’s.
I supported everything Bush did to keep us safe after 9/11. I cant believe how wrong I was. I don’t see how our children forgive us for throwing our freedoms away and bankrupt this nation.
Here’s the Obama media difference.
If Obama were President on Dec. 7, 1941, the next day’s headline in all the U.S newspapers would have been, “Job opportunities opening up in near future”.
And on the 8th or 9th page, at the bottom of the 5th column in mouse type would have been the little headline: Japs bomb Pearl Harbor.”
The lack of coverage of the Cairo embassy storming and the Libya Embassy murders kind of confirms this as does the biased main stream media coverage in favor of the traitorous socialist living in the White House for the last three plus years, Obama, who’s also been busy looting our treasury.
Not just transforming our nation, but destroying it.
Riddle me this………….
The majority of the Islamic soldiers that hijacked the planes on 9/11 were Saudi nationals.
How ’bout if they were Cubans? What would’ve happened the next day or two?
Please note:
I refer to the terrorists as “soldiers” to show that there is a tangible enemy, not an amorphous one.
As a Brooklyn-American I remember every moment of 9/11. When the buildings collapsed by brother phone me to say “This is unbelievable” My reply was “This demands a nuclear response.” So much for that. And while I’m ranting if you told me on that day that in 8 yrs we would have a president who’s given name was Barack Hussien Obama, I would’ve, well, y’know, right?
Roger:
While I concur with your assessment there is a similarity. On my right arm just above the elbow is a tatoo of an American Flag. On the left side has “9/11/01″ and on the right side “12/07/41″ above the flag says “Never” and under it “Forget”. To me in both instances we were caught with our pants down, unprepared, militarily, intelligence wise and our National understanding of just what is going on. The latter is more severe today than it was then.
9/11 makes me sad – not for the obvious reasons but because I believe the 3 buildings were set for demolition. It was an inside job. 3700 people died – for what? To start a war in Iraq and Afghanastan? Over 6,000 Americans have died there. For what? How many Americans have been maimed? For what? To bring democracy to Iraq? Afghanastan? Who the hell cares if they have democratic governments? I do not.
Billions and Billions of US dollars have been lost, misplaced, stolen and just disappeared. For what? Any of those dollars in your pocket?
We have allowed our “government” to install a jobs program for burger flippers – it’s called the TSA.
We have allowed our “government” to take away privacy and liberty. It’s called the Patriot Act.
We allow our children to be taught by socialists. To not respect our Country. To use our Flag for window coverings.
We do everything we can to be Politically Correct. God forbid we should offend someone. My grandfather taught me I was not born with the right to never be offended – get over it.
Our Founding Fathers set up for religious freedom. So the Muslims got started with some whack job who said “sign up or I’ll lop off your head.” Great recruiting skills and it worked for awhile. Not in this Country. A terrorist is a terrorist no matter what flavor and should be treated as such.
It so totally angers me that the Army officer who opened fire has been on ice since 2009. And he’s upset because he has to shave his beard. To hell with his beard – lop off his head! Three years ago!
Blessings to all – we have to remember who we are and get our Country back!
Cmarie, you are the poster child for why we should not allow mouth breathing idiots to vote.
A Truther? You are an unwitting agent of a foreign power. Emphasis on unwitting.
None of you punks would have made it through WWII.
September 11 did IN FACT precipitate something very significant: that national borders and “nationhood” are perhaps passé.
Pearl Harbor represented perhaps the high point of what was capable under the (now) old concept of national sovereignty being the best and highest end of social organization.
Going forward, the 9/11 acts resurrect the matter of sovereignty: that national borders and nationhood are insignificant, that significant acts can and will occur without respect to these old concepts.
Most importantly, we in the west have not yet conceived of – much less acted upon – a practical and winning response to the fanatics and their followers within the Muslim community.
To the extent that individual sovereignty as manifested by American Exeptionalism is a good thing, the ought to be thinking rather more about empowering individuals to guard their respective safety aboard an aircraft, and rather less about some TSA doing this task.
I saw the second plane hit outside the office window in downtown Manhattan. I ran down 32 flights of stairs in the dark when our building shook and we lost lights, computers and phones. I did not have time to be scared – only time to escape lower Manhattan as fast as I could. I lived in another state – bridges and tunnels were on lock down, cellphones did not work, this can never happen again. Lost lives, a lost sense of freedom and security led me to dread going to work in NY every day. I was afraid my commuter train might blow up. I am 68 and retired in Florida on the 11th anniversary of 9/11. Believe me, I will never forget. My hope for the future is that a son or daughter of a 9/11 victim will lead this country in the near future, kick ass and get rid of our despisers so our country can return to a feeling of well being.
With all due (no) respect, this is the most nonsensical article I have EVER read. The analogy between the attacks on 9/11 and the bombing at Pearl Harbor is simply ABSURD. Let me refresh your memory. The military machine that was Japan in the 1930′s and 1940′s had expanded across half of Asia. The German and Italian axis had gobbled up most of Europe and had been bombing England for a year. These people posed an existential threat to the Anglo-European world, not to mention world Jewry. Now contrast a couple dozen crazed middle-class Saudis with some box cutters and student pilots licenses. Then we went to war with crazed secular dictator who had nothing to do with 9/11 and spent half our treasury. You can try to stretch this out if you want to, but you’re talking to yourselves (and an empty chair). The rest of hear: ‘hmm..hmmm…hmmm.. yadda… yadda… yadda”
You’re right & wrong according to the Hebrew-Inspired Scriptures(Zeph. 3;9, Acts 26:14, & 1 Cor. 4:6) because YAHWEH(YHWH) ALWAYS PUNISHES HIS OWN FIRST! Guess what, England(Marxist is their ideology all of the 1900′s, including Churchill) & America are really “ISRAEL” by the seed of JOSEPH, INCLUDING JUDAH, WHO ALSO IS UNDER JOSEPH(GEN. 48:16)! However, JUDAH WAS GIVEN THE SCEPTRE(GEN. 49:10), but REJECTED HIM! YOU FIGURE? Just wanted to had that Blasphemy against the SET-APART SPIRITUAL WORLD, WHICH MARXISM DOES IS THE “ONLY” SIN THAT NEVER NAN BE FORGIVEN, EITHER IN THIS WORLD OR THE NEXT, MEANING THAT THERE WILL BE “JUSTICE” TO COME! Just saying what’s written by much better men than me! WATCH!