Romney’s Gutsy Choice
Mitt Romney did something that a lot of supposed wise men said he wouldn’t — pick a vice presidential candidate who is more charismatic than he. In choosing Paul Ryan, Romney took the risk he would be outshone, but he did America a favor. He selected the brightest young politician we have.
He also underscored his best line of the campaign so far, “It’s the economy – and we’re not stupid!” No one in Congress has thought more creatively or acted with more determination to solve the great economic problems we face than Ryan. He has virtually stood alone among higher elected officials in the battle for serious entitlement reform, being criticized by none other than Newt Gingrich for recommending remedies that were, if anything, too mild for the monumental fiscal crisis confronting us. But at least Ryan has tried to do something about it. Few others have had the courage to attempt it.
Through nominating Ryan, Romney has signaled that his campaign is going to be about the economy, the economy, and, yes, you guessed it, the economy (with healthcare thrown in as an aspect of the economy). It is not going to be about immigration, marriage, the legalization of marijuana, whether candidates cause cancer, who has a dog on his car, or even who was born where. It’s going to be about the one thing America is obsessed with, the one thing that if we don’t correct nothing else is possible…. Okay, I won’t say it again, but you certainly know.
In choosing Ryan too, he has certainly gone for a candidate with personality, unlike some I could mention. (Why do it now? That’s over.) He also, I suspect, has chosen a man who can dish it out and in an articulate manner. Many of us can recall Ryan testifying in front of Obama regarding the dubious budget for the president’s healthcare legislation and making Obama highly uncomfortable. It looked as if O. had met his match and knew it.
– use all your skills and influence at PJM to help the Romney-Ryan ticket “Restore America”.
Roger,
Form an anti-journolist. Romney needs helps to stay on offense. We need the conservative blogosphere to work together to fight the lies and distractions. Think a Wisconsin fight every week until election day. The conservative movement has the talent and brains, but we need unity. PJ Media, Breitbart, Drudge etc… coordinating the counter attacks.
“He whose ranks are united in purpose will be victorious.”
–Sun Tzu
Why isn’t Romney attacking in the manner he did during the primaries? Remember FOX news reporting that Romney had no strategy except attacking Santorum and Gingrich?
On the WSJ Opinion Journal Live, Democratic pollster Doug Schoen asks WSJ Editorial Board member Mary Kissel “We haven’t heard a coherent and clear plan from Governor Romney, have we?” Kissel sputtters for more than 30 seconds and cannot answer the question.
Now if a member of the WSJ Editorial Board (who as Schoen remarks are often better at knowing Romney’s position than is Romney’s campaign staff) doesn’t know what Romney’s reply is on the Obama attack ads, then there is no reply. Romney is being pummeled senseless right now and may not be able to turn it around in the important swing states. Paul Ryan, fiscal and social conservative giant, will only end up being tarred with Romney’s ineffective campaigning.
It’s a sad thing to watch a once promising candidate make one misstep after another. Like watching Frazier fight haplessly against Ali.
Here’s the link to the WSJ Opinion Journal Live Video. Skip ahead to 15 minutes in the segment to get to the Schoen-Kissel interview.
http://live.wsj.com/?mod=WSJ_formfactor#!5179EC3F-6A65-480A-BAB4-E0D652CFF435
It’s the other way around. Romney let Gingrich and Sweater Vest overextend themselves first, and then go on the attack. The moment that they tried to paint him as “not conservative” and start sounding like Obama, he switched gears.
Romney is doing the same thing with Obama. Why get in Obama’s way of calling Romney a murderer with the steelworker ads? I mean, Romney even had MSNBC(!) flaking for him on that. First rule of thumb: don’t get in the way of someone else making a mistake. Let them.
It’s also a long election. Why blow your load before the conventions on attack ads? Especially when Romney, in the long-run, will have a massive financial edge against Obama in terms of their war chests. Obama’s already run through a significant chunk of his money. Romney hasn’t- and he’s now got Ryan to send his fundraising through the roof. He’ll take the lead with attack ads- based on policy points, rather than indefensible politics of personal destruction ads.
If anything, I think Romney’s strategy is to be Ali. Take the lumps that are going to come, anyways. Take them not because you’re weak, but because they fail to do the job, and tire out Obama.
Last point: the 24/7 news media means you win a day or a week or so. Romney knows this, folks. It doesn’t matter “winning” a week or two in July as much as it does winning in October. Methinks he’ll win EVERY WEEK in October. Big. Difference.
Yes, that’s great. We have to do that. But, basically, we’re preaching to the choir.
The question is, how to reach Independents … and maybe Hillary Democrats … or disillusioned Democrats. (We’ll never reach devoted Leftists — don’t waste your energy.)
How to get some of what is said in the blogosphere into the MSM and on TV?
Are there any middle-of-road blogs that Independents go to?
If you live in a swing state — get down to the local Republican party office, and get on those phones, knock on doors (?); stuff envelopes, talk to people (not just those who already are going to vote for Romney.)
In ’04, didn’t Rove organize a big “get out the vote” program, just before the election — with Evangelicals (or was that just a rumor?)
Something like that is needed too.
Who would be in charge something like that now?
If, at least, everyone offers to drive or go with at least 2 other friends, to make sure they vote — that would be helpful.
Social media had a major impact in what happened in Wisconsin, and I think the turnout to support Chick-Fil-A was facilitated by Twitter, Facebook, and the blogs. There are over 100 million Twitter users in the U.S., and not all are Obama supporters. When the independents start paying attention in the next month there has to be a way to reach them and give them the other side (truth) of the story. A coordinated effort from the Breitbarts, PJ Medias, Drudges, Hanitys, and all their Twitter followers could create an avalanche the mainstream media could not stop.
Social Media. We need to be able to share and/or link to individual stories on our FB pages. Charts and graphs would help, too. There are so many openings to hit Obama, but we need evidence or else the mushy middle will think we’re no better than the other side.
“Restoring America’s Prosperity and Greatness” would be very good summary-theme (“narrative” in the trendy pundit terms) highlighting the combined strengths of Romney-Ryan ticket.
Ryan comments at the end of his acceptance speech “We can turn this thing around” and “I’m thrilled to be a part of America’s Comeback Team” are pointing to the synergy of Romney’s established credentials as a truly successful turnaround manager and Ryan’s own “big picture” Plan for returning this country back from the edge of the killer-deficit cliff. This message would be waaay more credible with the average voter than the lame talk about Romney’s resume with his supposed experience in creating jobs.(Creating jobs was definitely NOT Mitt’s job and Bain Capital.)
Also, Restoring American Prosperity / Great American Turnaround / Comeback are all excellent counter-points to the Obama campaign’s “Forward.” (into the abyss — credit to Mark Steyn) slogan.
PER: Washington76
It appears that when Paul Ryan’s party is doing the spending, raising debt limits, and acting unconstitutionally… Ryan goes with the flow.
Congressman Ryan’s actual record leaves much to be desired. The issue Ryan is most known for is his interest in cutting the deficit and balancing the budget.But why did the Congressman vote to bail out the auto industry, to pass the Medicare package to the tune of $400 billion, and to nationalize education via No Child Left Behind?
Paul Ryan on Bailouts and Government Stimuli -Voted YES on TARP (2008) -Voted YES on Economic Stimulus HR 5140 (2008) -Voted YES on $15B bailout for GM and Chrysler. (Dec 2008) -Voted YES on $192B additional anti-recession stimulus spending. (Jul 2009)Paul Ryan on Entitlement Programs -Voted YES on limited prescription drug benefit for Medicare recipients. (Nov 2003) -Voted YES on providing $70 million for Section 8 Housing vouchers. (Jun 2006) -Voted YES on extending unemployment benefits from 39 weeks to 59 weeks. (Oct 2008) -Voted YES on Head Start Act (2007)Paul Ryan on Education Rep. Ryan went along with the Bush Administration in supporting more federal involvement in education.
This is contrary to the traditional Republican position, which included support for abolition of the Department of Education and decreasing federal involvement in education.-Voted YES on No Child Left Behind Act (2001)Paul Ryan on Civil Liberties -Voted YES on federalizing rules for driver licenses to hinder terrorists. (Feb 2005) -Voted YES on making the PATRIOT Act permanent. (Dec 2005) -Voted YES on allowing electronic surveillance without a warrant. (Sep 2006)Paul Ryan on War and Intervention Abroad -Voted YES on authorizing military force in Iraq. (Oct 2002) -Voted YES on emergency $78B for war in Iraq & Afghanistan. (Apr 2003) -Voted YES on declaring Iraq part of War on Terror with no exit date. (Jun 2006) -Voted NO on redeploying US troops out of Iraq starting in 90 days.
(May 2007)Congressman Ryan supports the United Nations, the World Trade Organization, federal bailouts, increased federal involvement in education, unconstitutional and undeclared wars, Medicare Part D (a multi trillion dollar unfunded liability), stimulus spending, and foreign aid.According to Michelle Malkin in 2009, “[Paul Ryan] gave one of the most hysterical speeches in the rush to pass TARP last fall; voted for the auto bailout; and voted with the Barney Frank-Nancy Pelosi AIG bonus-bashing stampede. Milwaukee blogger Nick Schweitzer wrote: ‘He ought to be apologizing for his previous votes, not pretending he was being responsible the entire time, but I don’t see one bit of regret for what he did previously.
”Congressman Ryan: if you don’t like debt, stop voting for debt.
Paul Ryan (WORKING in the real world of American politics — as opposed to blogging about the ideal world of “pure principles”) has been able to survive with a lot of integrity and to credibly represent clear and plausible alternative to the “compassionate conservatism” inertia of the RINO establishment that got us 1/2 way to the cliff that Pelosi-Reed-Obama are trying to push us over on November 6. Governor Reagan also compromised on some issues in order to survive and credibly challenge the Carter’s and 70′s establishment’s “inevitable decline” malaise-inertia.
If Romney didn’t choose Ryan or Rubio — I’d plan to vote for him and immediately after he is elected, start working on having somebody (like Rubio, Ryan or Palin) to challenge him in Republican primaries for 2016 and/or via the 3rd (Tea) Party candidacy. This might still be necessary — if Romney and his band of hand-picked adviser-geniuses revert to their natural worst instincts (before or after the Election). But, at this point — there is a glimmer of hope for the Republic and the Conservatives and we should enjoy it as long as it lasts.
I agree, I am sick of this petulant child attitude of, I must get every single thing I want now or I will take my marbles and go home. The tea party is slowly taking over the repub party, and the repub party is slowly winning. But until that victory is complete, we have to make the occasional compromise, to avoid even worse. But Romneys selection of Ryan indicates he is now ready to embrace that tea party change. And the very shrillness of the dem attacks against the Ryan Plan, indicates to me how right the plan is.
I think the “pure” conservatives (with exceptions) people who simply want a white knight to come in who agrees with all their ideals and save the day. That way, they don’t have to DO anything. They don’t have to volunteer. Or run for office, or hand out pamphlets, or answer phones or lick stamps. They just want it all solved, and they think if we had a “pure” conservative, nearly a hundred years of fiscal mismanagement would be solved in a four-year administration. As the more pragmatic among us have said: there’s no quick fix. We must keep the pressure on all R’s to go right, cut more, tax less, cut MORE, and on and on and on, culminating in nothing less than a flat fair tax and a balanced budget amendment. It will not all happen in our lifetime. This is a long-haul overhaul. We have to get used to it. (Progs, BTW, know this, which is why thy indoctrinate their children from birth and have been okay–until recently–with a process of gradual erosion of capitalism). We can and must learn to exercise that sort of patient, persistent pressure.
Oh … that was helpful … you’re saying? … he’s a total phoney?
(I find that hard to believe.)
And we should vote for …?
We should vote for the “best (and/or lesser evil) choice available on the ballot.” But also — work harder BETWEEN the elections. Here in Texas, we just got Ted Cruz (pushing out “sure bet” establishment RINO Dewhurst) as a Republican candidate for Senate.
I agree that the tea party is slowly remaking the repub party into one we can be proud of, but in the mean time we must still make sure they win to head off the disaster Obama/Reid would give us. The good thing here is that Romneys selection of Ryan indicates he is willing to embrace this change toward tea party values.
“Restore America” or move toward a better American than has ever existed? Since Ryan read Ayn Rand as a young man, here is what she was about, offered by a non-Randian, but a scholar who finds her fascinating: http://clarespark.com/2011/04/16/index-to-ayn-rand-blogs/. Meanwhile, the revolutionary socialists and social democrats are in full hate mode.
http://aipac.capwiz.com/election/candidate/id/195588
The Ryan pick is immensly popular with the tea party, and the tea party has links with moderate libertarians who are often swing voters. I think this pick will cause the tea party to turn out in droves.
Joe Biden just crapped his pants.
Normal daily function for Biden.
This economy needs a lot of R&R!
Hot damn!
Of the pool of candidates, Romney had chosen the best of ‘em.
What most characterizes a competent manager is the ability to pick the best people to surround him. Picking people who are no threat to you because they’re not up to it is the sign of a managerial loser. Lincoln understood this, and picked the best. It looks like Mr. Romney may have the touch.
In basic training, the same principle was taught in a very direct way. “The First Sergeant addresses his troops for the first time. “Men, I’m your leader, and I can lick any one of you privates. If you have the guts, step forward.” Now private Jones steps out, and he looks to be six foot eight and 280 pounds of raw muscle. The Top, who is five foot four and weighs 140, turns to the private. “Now, he says, who thinks he can lick me and Corporal Jones, here.”
This is why I support Romney. I read his book about the Winter Olympics titled “Turnaround”, and I took two things away from what I read. First, Romney is fairly pedestrian as a writer, but that at least he wrote his own book is obvious. Second, Romney is very comfortable in his own skin and this allows him to ACTUALLY lead from behind. Turning around the looming fiasco at Salt Lake City was accomplished because Romney does what great leaders do, he finds the best possible people to solve particular problems and he rewards them with prominent places on the stage when it is time to take the bows. Romney is the kind of boss we all wish we had gotten to work for. Paul Ryan has made a great career decision to join Mitt Romney, I say. Go Romney/Ryan. Give ‘em hell! ABO2012
What most characterizes a competent manager is the ability to pick the best people to surround him. Picking people who are no threat to you because they’re not up to it is the sign of a managerial loser.
Candidate Obama’s selection of Joe Biden was a fine example of that principle.
Candidate Obama’s selection of Joe Biden was a fine example of that principle.
Think about it: if you’re a total loser who’s only strength is expanding globo-socialism to permanence, then the best move would be to hire an even more total loser like Joe Biden. This allows the news entertainers the creative space to make Barack Hussein look good. Not to argue, just saying is all. :^o
Perceptive comment. A really great leader is not afraid to pick people who are smarter than they are in specific areas, Reagan was famous for it. With Obama on the other hand, all we keep hearing is how he is “the smartest guy in the room” with the corelary to that being he must always pick people that are dumber than he is, which in Obamas case means downright stupid. Anytime I hear about a leader who is “the smartest guy in the room” what that says to me is not smarts, but insecure narcicism.
You make me feel like dancing, I wanna dance the night away!
Finally! A fellow Leo Sayer fan!
This is not the pick of a man who has already shored up his base and is looking to expand the playing field.
This is the extremist fringe-Rightwing pick of a coward who was bullied into choosing somebody by that fringe Rightwing, or else.
Romney is a coward. A flip-flopper. Empty suit. Spineless.
His is unfit to be President of the United States in all measures you can take for the office.
These fringe-Rightwing pandering cretins want to destroy Medicare and Social Security ASAP. No way. They need to be stamped into the ground until nothing is left except a grease spot.
From April’s Esquire piece on Ryan:
“Make no mistake: Ryan is a thoroughgoing nutball, as bug-house crazy on economics as Peter King is on Muslims and Steve King is on anyone swarthier than himself. He is a lifelong adherent to the doctrines of Ayn Rand, which ought to disqualify anyone from ever being taken seriously enough to park cars by anyone over the age of fifteen.
In terms of their connection to actual human reality, the difference between the doctrines of Ayn Rand and the doctrines of L. Ron Hubbard is not substantial, and the fervor of their acolytes is almost exactly the same. Picking Paul Ryan to handle your political economy is tantamount to electing Tom Cruise to be pope.
Paul Ryan is a thoroughgoing fraud. He went through high school and most of college on Social Security survivor benefits after his father’s death. He voted for almost all the Bush programs — including both off-the-books wars — that ballooned the deficit he so piously condemns now. And this week, as he rolled out his lunatic conception of a federal budget, Paul Ryan produced the definitive statement of his political philosophy: There are those Americans who deserve to live and those Americans who don’t. Period. All of the former are very, very wealthy. All of the latter are poor, or struggling, or old. Paul Ryan believes the true mission of government is to bring as much pain to the parasites as it can because, by doing so, it can liberate the genius of those people who deserve to live. When Paul Ryan dreams of a free nation, it is one in which the seventy-two-year-old spouses of seventy-five-year-old patients are free to go out and shop in a rigged insurance market for the $100,000-plus they’re going to need over a lifetime of tending to that patient. If they insisted on feeding themselves, and even risking the odd vacation, over the course of their working lives and they failed to anticipate what might befall them, then the spouse is going to have to starve and the patient is just going to have to sit there in his own filth, until market forces determine that they should die.”
Actually, this might be the greatest gift the republicans have given the Democrats since Sarah “Quittypants” Palin
You convince no one here, Mr. Axlerod. But keep wasting your time. Just don’t dye your hair red in frustration.
They could have a video of Mr. Romney and a goat doing the you know what and you would still vote for him, so I know where you are coming from. Sad …
You know nothing, Mr. Axlerod, or maybe you are really Harry Reid or even Nancy Pelosi, and your condition is going downhill fast. You really do need professional help.
Nancy Pelosi, definitely.
I’ll bet Bill Burton is photoshopping that goat video right now, while Barry is preparing a new speech on “civility in politics.”
They could put a picture of Romney with Charlie Brown with his kite in a tree and I’d STILL vote for Romney. Why?
Because Romney doesn’t hate the United States.
Because Romney doesn’t believe the way to more votes is by government giving taxpayer dollars away to lazy-asses.
Because Romney understands what businesses need to thrive and create jobs instead of having Euro-style (or worse) government-management of everything.
He is not my best pick. But he is still so far above and beyond the twisted anger of the petulant, tiny little man with an inflated ego that I don’t care if he had Joe Biden for his running mate.
CW, you offer nothing of substance here. You simply advertise in bright neon letter how much you think this country OWES everybody. I suggest to get out of your box now and again and actually THINK for a change.
Obama’s been doing that to America for almost 4 years; so there’s speculation and history.
CW, no, no, no. The commonly used phrase does not involve a goat, but a syphilitic camel.
Try to keep up.
I’d vote for the goat, too, if it released its academic records.
Considering the numerous policy failures of Obama, and that you are still supporting him, your comment about supporting a guy no matter what, looks pretty foolish. The tea party is the wave of the future for this country, and Ryan is the ideal tea party pick, so I am elated. Now we have a reason to not just vote against Obama, which was quite necessaary to prevent disaster, but we also have a reason to vote for Romney. I think Romneys pick of Ryan, instead of being the cowardly pick you claim, is actually inspired and courageous. Romney is not afraid to pick somebody who may someday become more popular and might be smarter in some areas than he is, a mark of a confident leader (reagan did it all the time), rather than an insecure narcisist like Obama, who always has to be the “smaertest guy in the room”, by picking idiots.
Of course he does, he convinces us that he is scared.
Two words to describe Mr. I Wonder What’s Happening’s world view: fatal blindness.
If some perverse deity were to grant this idiot’s sick utopian fantasies, he’d be one of the first ones getting his “nine grams” in the back of the neck in the dank basement of some latter day American Lubyanka. The sort he enables typically don’t have much use for his ilk once they achieve the power they seek.
Man, you ARE the gift that keeps on giving!
You’re speaking of Romney as bully? Seriously? Man, your CHOOSING to not recall Uhbama’s threats, spineless tact is something else!
Romney’s a flip-flopper? Have you kept a tally sheet of Uhbama’s ‘evolving’ and changes through the years? How about months? The guy even speaks of his and I’m paraphrasing, ‘I am what the public envisions me to be’.
In case you’ve just tuned in, Medicare and Medicaid HAS been financially crippling our economy for 45 years.
There’s video, transcripts of the-late Senator Goldwater in ’64 speaking of the financial burdens the U.S. government imposed upon itself at THAT time. This was BEFORE Medicare!
As for SS, people are using FAR MORE Social Security benefits than they’ve paid into them, 2-3 fold most times.
The ‘off-the-books wars’ – are those the same wars that were ok’d by the UN, both Houses, our allies ‘off-the-books wars’? Curious and all..
Uhbama’s, ‘stimulus’ has overwhelmingly cost more.. and for what? 3 + years, ‘post recession’ and our country’s still bleeding f/t jobs like crazy. Don’t fret, though. Due to the upcoming economic albatross, ‘Uhbamacare’, 22k more IRS agents have been hired insofar to sponge, err ‘receive’ the ever-dwindling private sector monies to exist.
And the last portion of your uber-creepy, emotionally laden paragraph is so nonsensical and poorly worded, the only thing I can recommend is either decaf coffee or half your dosage.
You’re wetting your pants because you wanted Romney to choose a squishy, ‘cross-the-aisle’ no-named RINO type. It’s clear as day, CW.
Actually, you’re wetting your pants and here’s why: The Ryan pick will clearly excite the TeaOP, but not beyond that. Happy base at PJ Media and Red State doesn’t grow vote.
Doesn’t matter who Romney picks, he’s toast.
CW, of ALL the comments you’ve provided, as well as reading others, you still don’t realize/ accept MANY regular PJM readers are Independent, Libertarians and Blue Dog Democrats, respectively.
To expect or assume some type of lock-step agreement amongst Independents and on-the-fence types to go with the Uhbama camp because of your demagoguing is foolish.
The Presidential, V.P debates will help or hinder their, my decision.
And though I respect Nate Silver’s saber metrics (always cool to throw that word into conversation!), Mr. Silver can’t control the accomplishments, gaffes etc., the next couple months from each respective person.
Obama is BURNT toast and you know it. You sound desperate. And it’s delightful to hear. LOL
The “O” has given the muddle in the middle plenty of reason not to vote for him just by being himself. Any Democrat who can do basic math and loves their country will vote for Romney or stay home (one valuable thing about this election is, we’ll find out how many Democrats there are like that, who usually vote on autopilot).
I’m thinking 2% of the voting public, there, bit we’ll see.
Picking Ryan gives fiscal conservatives a way to rationalize voting for a liberal
cont.
like Romney.
That figleaf will not survive Mitt’s doubling down on putting more Roberts on the court, talking about how Romneycare works or isn’t Obamacare, or how any gun control is federalist in justification.
“Actually, you’re wetting your pants and here’s why:” Such logic.
Geez, who put the Crystal Hot Sauce in Blunder’s enema?
It wasn’t Crystal Hot Sauce. It was Sriracha.
Shhhhh!
The tea party has also drawn support from moderate libertarians and moderates and conservative dems who are concerned about our disastrous fscal policy. Ryan, with his serious fiscal proposals, will draw far more people tothe party than you think. As for Romney flip flopping, do you have any idea at all how many clearly stated promisses Obama has broken, or how many positions where he has “evolved”. Obama will say anything, and promise anything, to win election,the country be damned.
you need to put down the coffee or whatever else is making you hyperventilate. In picking Ryan, Romney reverted to form. As he did at Bain Capital, he hired the brightest for the task at hand. In this case, it’s the economy. Great selection.
Since he’s not a woman, it’s tough to imagine how you are going to keep up the hatefest standards of last time.
And Ryan’s daughter is way too young for Dems to slut-talk about her…though Obama will send his hit teams out to give it their best shot.
hope none of them ever started a lemonade stand or used chalk on the sidewalk
Under ObamaSCARE (otherwise known as ObamaTAX), grandma and grandpa won’t be getting their healthcare, just the bill. You see, to Marxists, you’ve outlived your usefulness to society. Plus, they’ve already taken $500 BILLION from Medicare to fund O’Care while adding 30 Million people to the Medicare rolls and in 10 years, they will take an additional $1 Trillion from Medicare to help fund O’Care. Seniors will then be subject to the IPAB (Independent Payment Advisory Board) which will decide whether you get your doctor-recommended treatment, procedure or surgery or whether you will be denied and told to take a pain pill instead and it’s all based on cost and your age. Ryan is trying to save Medicare. O’Care will gut it. Got it? Now get back on your meds!
CW,
You’re just one more reason to wish PJM had an “ignore” button. I made a sad mistake in reading your bilge. I should have just scrolled past it like I usually do.
However, on the morning of November 7, I’ll be seeing if you’ve got cojones enough to show up here and take the verbal stomping you deserve as we celebrate getting rid of the current crop of WH criminals.
Until then, why don’t you take your garbage someplace else–like Kos or DU?
Yeah, Esquire is where I go for all my serious political commentary. Did you get lost or something?
Wanted to say out loud that im afraid of your nails! But respectfully,how about some pain for the fifth generation welfare “families”? A slight deterrent? This old Coast Guard helmsman feels obligated to tell you that no ship can sail with too many anchors dragging!
“… no ship can sail with too many anchors dragging!”
The most succinct encapsuling of the conceptual foundation of the Cloward-Piven Strategy.
http://www.americanthinker.com/printpage/?url=http://www.americanthinker.com/2007/07/what_we_face.html
I know you, Cynical….you’re the guy who took a dump on the police car during the OWS get together. You’re the strung out moocher who demands more gimmies, and is too dumb and lazy to get a job. You’re life’s loser who doesn’t have the guts to get off of your ass and make something of your life. You’re the guy who received a University degree in advanced group grievance and is now discovering that he was taught nothing that prepares him to be an independent adult. I know you. See you at the next rally, bro.
Actually, I thought he was something I just flushed down the toilet
Cynical Wonder:
You’ve been reduced to quoting ESQUIRE???
That collection of far left-wing lunacy and porn?
Are you going to quote Hustler next?
Nobody cares about Esquire except the ultra-liberals in the silk stocking district of midtown Manhattan.
But since you agree with what they wrote, it tells us exactly where you stand. You’re so far to the left that it’s amazing you haven’t fallen into the Pacific Ocean by now.
Look at the world around you, CW. Then tell me it’s not *all* the economy.
Listen, I am not the sharpest tool in the bin, but even I understand that if we don’t repair the damage Barry-O has left us, we’re done. Do you understand? Done. We become, in one scant generation hence, Zaire with nuclear weapons.
Get a grip, Sir.
A very appropriate name…Wonder. Wonder how you come to such outrageous positions on what is a solid, realistic management type who frankly, has the best shot at righting an economy that has been devastated not only by Republican spending, but certainly by the foibles of a POTUS not even vaguely familiar with economic concepts of any substance other than spending. Yes, wonder is a good name for such a shallow wordsmith as yourself. Semper Fi.
Whenever you read anything by Cynical Wonder (who is a legend in his own mind), just remember the guiding rule of all leftists:
“There is no such thing as Truth, there is only the narrative.”
So tell me Mr Cynical Wonder, have you given any thought to what career you’ll pursue after Obama’s Office of the Director of Progressive Media and Online Response disbands? And do they pay you in cash or food stamps?
Even a “nutball” would be a vast improvement over the goofball team of Obama&Biden
We’ll see. I’ll be shocked if Romney wins by less than 5%. I won’t be shocked if he wins by more than %10.
Wow, CW all lined up with the knee jerk talking points.
Someone pay you to spew this crapola, CW ?
You have any clue what integrity is ?
Duhbama minions have a USB port behind their left ear. They connect to the collectivist hive mind every morning to download all their opinions. Did you ever wonder why they all repeat identical stoopid chants?, Really. Same words, same word order. Hive insects. Buzzing hive insects. Keep a can of Raid handy.
And you know what, CW, you’re one of the people who doesn’t deserve to live. Whether we win the Presidency or not, and I think we will, there is a new kind of Republican out in the states. That Republican over the last two decades has learned that nobody with a D behind their name is trustworthy and nobody that supports them is any better or worth any effort; they may not deserve to no longer live, but they don’t deserve having productive people have to sacrifice anything for them either. The Democrats are a party with communists at the top and rent seekers and parasites below them. Anyone with any self-awareness outside of DC has learned to absolutely hate Democrats and their apparatchiks in the unions and the leftist front groups and non-profits.
Hopefully we will be able to do it at the National level, but at the state level, we are going to hurt you people. There is enough awareness of Democrat ways and means now to effectively confront and defeat you where you really live in your filthy grants and contracts using pass-through federal money, in your project labor agreements, in holding permits hostage, in over-credentialling government jobs to make sure only mind-numbed lefty robots with a “Studies” degree qualify, in your use of ministerial and regulatory powers to “reward friends and punish enemies,” in your domination of academia, in other words in your use of the state as an instrumentality of the leftist conquest of the US.
Every one of your front groups living on taxpayer funds is going to feel the heel of a Republican governor’s regulatory power and I will guarantee you that I and most anybody else who knows anything about government can put ANYBODY in jail that handles pass through federal funds. It isn’t enough to cut off your big cash cows, the unions, as has been done in WI and OH; we know how to get the little ones too, and now that it has been proven in WI that the left really is a paper tiger, more reticent Republican governors can move once we’re past this election. And when we cut off the money to your parasites, some of us really hope you take to the streets.
Awesome! And I am right there with you on all of it… particularly that last sentence of yours. At some point in time we will have to meet the left in the street, when that time comes we must leave no doubt as to the victor in this… our side, America and freedom must put aside decency for a while and become truly vicious. For we will be facing off with evil.
A little perspective. I was president of my union local for over ten years. As such I know just how communist unions and the left are, I got all the leadership mailings(pre-e-mail) from the AFL-CIO and down. BTW, I was in the BAC(bricklayers). I also got union/leftist organizing training.
So here is a pointer for when the day we meet the left in the street. Next time you see a goonion squad doing a protest. Take a close look at their signs. Not the paper part… what they use to s’port it. Most times it will be a stout piece of wood(2*2 at least)about six feet long. Why you ask… because an axe handle is too obvious.
Point being… make sure YOUR sign is properly s’ported, I suggest oak.
I left the executive branch under a Democrat governor because I wouldn’t be a part of the corruption inherent in a union owning the government and went to work for the Republican controlled Legislature in ’96. Our mission was to deny the administration and the unions EVERYTHING. Even if we thought it was a good idea, they couldn’t have because it was their idea. We’d basically adopted the union tactic of demonstrating that the unions and the administration couldn’t do anything for their clients. The administration had negotiated some sham agreements with the unions in a blaze of publicity about how they’d used interest based bargaining in an unprecedented display of cooperation and harmony to arrive a labor agreements that gave wage and benefit icreases but at no net cost to the state. Of course, it was a lie so we set out to exercise the Legislature’s power to disapprove the agreements and send them back to the table and maybe even provoke a strike. The unions went crazy and tried to intimidate the Legislature by singing songs and carrying signs in the street outside the Capitol. They had pretty good crowds but the leadership cohort was the usual suspects, all of whom had their own file drawers in the grievance files in my office. Anyway, just singing songs and calling the Leg names didn’t dissuade the leadership from advancing the disapproval resolution so they unions decided to up the ante and stormed into the Capitol screaming and beating on coffee cans and carring their signs on baseball bats. They literally chased legislators into their offices and such. I’d been working those halls for days and couldn’t get the 21 votes I needed in the House; there were still a few Republicans who thought you could get unions to like you if you were nice to them back then. But after those fools pulled that stunt, and especially the waving around the signs on the baseball bats, I had all the Rs and even a few Ds and we killed the agreements and sent them out for another year with no contracts. You can pretty much always count on lefties to overplay their hand; you just have to know what you’re looking at and know how to provoke them to do something stupid. They rarely disappoint, but until the last decade or so few Republicans really understood what they were dealing with and how to handle them.
“Whether we win the Presidency or not, and I think we will, there is a new kind of Republican out in the states.”
Hysterically funny you are writing that with evident approval, when you’ve also said “limited government” is code for legal pot, and that a conservative Republican party could only win a handful of states. You must really be retching your lungs out at the thought of someone who might actually try to accomplish something being so prominent in the party.
See, the problem, Tom, is that you’re an effin’ idiot.
I wouldn’t bet the farm on that, Art. You’re the guy who claims the phrse “limited government” is only code for “legal pot”.
You’ve also said everything else I’ve claimed you’ve said.
You are the problem in the Republican party.
@Tom – I would bet the farm that you and your “true conservative” friends don’t have a clue how to actually reduce the size and intrusiveness of the federal government without provoking a massive voter backlash and losing the next election. And I’ll remind you that even Reagan couldn’t do it; more dramatic measures tried or threatened early in the first Reagan term resulted in the immediate loss of the Senate and Reagan was forced to govern with a Democrat Congress, which event caused him to basically let them have most of what they wanted on social/discretionary spending so that he could engage in restoring the military.
Having lived with a fair share of “true conservatives” in both the Legislature and Cabinet, my experience is that they lead with a general budget decrement so they can tout having cut the budget by X percent. The only thing a general decrement does is let the ‘crats decide where to put the money and take the cuts, and they always take the cuts in those things that the public can’t see, the infrastructure functions of financial management, human resources/labor relations, procurement processes, and grant and contract oversight. Since almost all the entities that do business with government or which receive government grants are Democrat controlled, what the general decrement does is allow the Democrats a free hand with money, people, and stuff even under a Republican government.
Likewise, the elimate X department(s) strategy provokes an immediate backlash from the people who live off and work for that department. It is well to remember that every department at one time had at least 50% + 1 of the Congress. If one wants to eliminated departments one strangles them slowly and the first move is to reduce the number of political appointees which reduces a department’s most powerful and effective constituency. They you reduce specific functions in the department, consolidate its infrastructure functions to the highest common level thereby reducing the number of non-appointee employees. After a few budget cycles nobody really remembers what that department was supposed to do anyway and you can consolidate any remaining useful functions into some other department and let the targetted department go the way of the dodo bird.
But the problem is that this stuff takes actually knowing something about government and actually having a plan. It is also boring so those with limited attention spans find it unattractive. It is much more fun to rail about cutting 25%, firing half the employees, and eliminating half the departments, but rail is all you’ll ever do.
“I would bet the farm that you and your “true conservative” friends don’t have a clue how to actually reduce the size and intrusiveness of the federal government without provoking a massive voter backlash and losing the next election.”
I am betting the farm you and your sort are so concerned about losing a seat somewhere, that you won’t even attempt it.
“And I’ll remind you that even Reagan couldn’t do it; more dramatic measures tried or threatened early in the first Reagan term resulted in the immediate loss of the Senate and Reagan was forced to govern with a Democrat Congress, which event caused him to basically let them have most of what they wanted on social/discretionary spending so that he could engage in restoring the military.”
And the people had not so recently had such a close call. Maybe you don’t recall how abjectly panicked very highly placed people were as the housing bubble crashed and took big firms with it.
“Having lived with a fair share of “true conservatives” in both the Legislature and Cabinet”
Bless your heart.
“my experience is…a Republican government.”
And you haven’t seen a fiscally conservative Congress, both Houses, and the Oval Office given leave to clean up the mess. And I expect you’ll see something different this time. There should be a across the board cut, defense largely excepted (Paulites can pound sand). There is no reason unemployment benefits should not be wound down, or why federal expenditures should continue to pay union wages, or why beaureaucrats administering 2 million dollar disbursements while funding a single intern shoudl go unjailed.
“Likewise, the elimate X department(s) strategy provokes an immediate backlash from the people who live off and work for that department.”
And your point is?
“It is well to remember that every department at one time had at least 50% + 1 of the Congress. If one wants to eliminated departments one strangles them slowly and the first move is to reduce the number of political appointees which reduces a department’s most powerful and effective constituency.”
Uhuh. If that’s how it’s done, why is it by the time your sort of Republican is through with it, the increase rate of such a department budget is still above inflation?
“They you reduce…the dodo bird.”
Which departments got that treatment when the non-Tea Party GOP you were such a part of (where was your Stevens then?) was in charge of Congress for three terms, and the Senate for much of that time?
“But the problem…you’ll ever do.”
And if we left your sort in charge, nothing is what you would do, and the last crash would be catastrophic and soon.
Every time Art Chance opens his comment box, something awesome comes out!
Dude, you’re citing Esquire for economics?
Blow it out your bunghole, Leftist astroturfer.
Cynical Wonder said: These fringe-Rightwing pandering cretins want to destroy Medicare and Social Security ASAP. No way. They need to be stamped into the ground until nothing is left except a grease spot.
Whoah. I thought it was only supposed to be right-wingers who express hate. I’ll give you this though: you picked an appropriate alias-you are a Cynical Wonder.
Cynical, do you realize how unhinged you sound here?
Oh, cynical, cynical, cynical…
You poor child…they said the Ryan pick would throw the democrats into fits of apoplectic rage..and it seems by your ranting…they were right.
Thanks for dropping by to remind us why democrats should never be in control of this country again.
Romney/Ryan 2012
I am willing to take the bet that free market economics, freedom to choose and individualism will triumph over managed scarcity, bureaucrats choosing for me and big government.
I applaud that Ryan understands economics. I saw him make a speech in Chicago, and Gary Becker sat at his table. We could use someone that actually understood math in the White House. Clearly, Obama and Biden do not, and neither does anyone in any party that advocates big government.
Roger’s piece is instructive. Both of us are very familiar with the attack dogs of Chicago. I live there. The Chicago pols are true believers in machines, managed scarcity, and look across the Pacific Ocean with green envy at the way China does things.
You want that totalitarian world? Vote for Obama. You want to be free, be able to get ahead, vote Romney. It’s that simple.
Can you contribute nothing better than ad hominem attacks, childish name-calling and unsubstantiated claims? Or is it that you have nothing of substance to say against the Romney – Ryan combo and must resort to near histrionics at the news?
This is the extremist fringe-Rightwing pick of a coward who was bullied into…
How is daring to make the first small step back to the U.S. Constitution extremist? But I gotta give ya credit, this is the question that the “moderate” Mitt will not axe, and probably no Ryan either. You should be happy.
Cynical Wonder
About your screen name: a cynic is a person with excessive skepticism, you’re the opposite, seeming to gag on the hook line and sinker in joe gullet. And the Wonder in your name seems to impute critical thinking, which is also a poor fit for you. Given the TV-made conventional wisdom in your thoughts, wouldn’t Gullible Credulous work better? You might wanna somehow also work Lawless into your handle.
Cynical, you are going to be in total SHOCK in November! Keep reading HP and Daily Kos and you might be able to keep your little dream going.
If you’re taking 1 elevil, up it to two. If you’re taking 2 elevils, up it to three…get someone to help with the math if need be.
If you’re talking “elevils”, you’re NOT talking English. How about a translation? I’ve been speaking English all my life and I have no idea what you mean.
Constructive criticism — Hemmingway never would have used the work, “tantamount”.
I never agree with you, but You have alot to say.
Nevertheless a constant mocking attitude online will seep into your personal life and make you a more bitter person. I advise you to not let that happen.
Internet tough guys finish last.
Oh, for goodness sakes, why don’t all of you ignore these ugly trolls? What a waste of energy.
These trolls have nothing else to do but spew their hate –
Let them spew it somewhere else — they’re getting some kind
of disgusting thrill out of egging you on —
There’s no real debate going on here —
ignore them and they’ll go away.
Oh, come on, Aqua. Sometimes the fish just jump into the barrel. Shooting them becomes irresistible.
Comical Blunderer is at it again – and what’s new? Nothing much – except he/she realizes that regardless of whom Romney picked for Veep is tin god Obummer is toast.
Thanks for the comic relief – such as it is.
I see it’s still not possible for the immoral and unethical to stick to the issue and resort to childish personal attacks. Keep up the “good” work… heaven forbid you should ever do anything unexpected.
Speaking of sitting in your own filth: pooped your pants over this, didn’t you, CW? It shows. Smells, too.
Mitt Romney and Paul Ryan will be the quintessential Americans like George Patton and Joe DiMaggio. They will attack the usurping tyrant boldly on all fronts and at all times and at this this they will not flag nor fail. They will never succumb to the siren call of the regime’s propaganda ministers that will permeate the television waves. They will not bargain with this tyrant and his propaganda ministers and gutter rats. They will not try to reason with them as the tyrant and his gaggle of lying lackeys and dirty dingbats will grant no quarter for them and if they can, they will destroy them and their families and all of America without remorse. Mitt Romney and Paul Ryan will follow the tyrant Hussein Louie Benito Hugo Isuzu Obama to the inmost recesses of his mind and make him fear and dread the very sight and sound of them. Mitt Romney and Paul Ryan will never let up and they will make the Child Emperor’s fear of them permeate his thoughts from when he rises in the morning until he retires at night, where he will be allowed only a brief respite in between his nightmares as his day of reckoning approaches. they will make him howl.
You guys are in a bit of a conundrum: Do elderly white people hate Obama more than they love their Medicare? I guess you’re going to find out. Speaking of all that “professional help,” that’s paid for by Medicare in case you didn’t know. Under the Ryan plan they would be given a coupon to redeem.
The professional help I was referring to was professional help for you, as in your being in dire need of a psychiatrist. Don’t think I have forgotten your death wish/threat outburst from the other day even if management here didn’t spot it and invoke their 4. Threats are treated seriously and reported to law enforcement”
Oh, that I think Feral Cats should be euthanized? We just had a rambunctious colony of them in the canyon below my back yard that became quite the nuisance. I don’y believe in TNR (trap, neuter, release). I think trap and euthanize is much more humane, but what to do with feral cats is a passionately debated topic, so I understand if you have a different view.
Also, I’ll believe the Ryan pick when I actually see it tomorrow. I smell fake out. Romney couldn’t possibly be that stupid.
Don’t try to weasel out of what you clearly meant when, obviously given my “handle”, what you meant was a death wish/threat clearly directed at me. If my “handle” had been, say “ABC”, you would not have told me your “little story”. If you are actually so disturbed that you now don’t realize that then you need not just a psychiatrist but a lengthy stay in a psychiatric hospital.
So Nancy Pelosi is getting her wish. Paul Ryan has now entered the Big Race. I can’t help but remember the last time a Democrat licked his chops in anticipation of an easy win. Jimmy Carter. And who was the object of his anticipation? Ronald Reagan.
Will history repeat? I’m beginning to think it just might.
CW. Dude. As an accredited Obamadrone tasked with spreading the message on social media, you must have missed the part of the memo where it said you’re supposed to try to make the OTHER side seem unhinged.
Left debate strategy: Argue. Argue. Argue. (Losing). Death threat.
CW; If I had encountered you back in the day, it would have turned me from pro-life, to pro-choice. If your mama had aborted you, the world would be a better place. Suck on that.
Are you referring to the same Medicare that ObamaCare is taking half a trillion dollars from? Maybe you forgot about that part of the health care bill. It’s hard to see how seniors can do worse with Ryan’s plans than they will with Obama’s death panels. Once the full bill is in effect, all medical expenses will be weighed against the value of the life they will save. Basically it’s a twofer: refuse treatment to the elderly (“go home and take the pain pill,” Obama said) so they die and quit collecting Social Security. Voila! Medicare and Social Security saved! Not to mention getting rid of all those worthless elderly people. Your man has quite the plan, CW!
That issue is already a vast improvement over the swill you liberals have been dishing out up to now.
I would much rather have a full debate of where Medicare goes from here than about Ann Romney’s horse or Mitt Romney’s dog or Mitt Romney’s tax returns.
Because your side will lose.
As long as the elderly CURRENTLY receiving Medicare get every penny they’re due, what happens to the young who are just starting out in the business world today must be addressed.
Start talking about Medicare more, and talk about Ann Romney’s horse less.
Then you will lose.
Elderly white people won’t have the option to hate anything. Obama will be killing them off with his death panels. Actually, Obama hates elderly white people more than they love their Medicare. Obamacare is all about getting rid of the elderly white population and transferring wealth to the increasingly less white younger generations. Obama is a racist. When you are not longer ALLOWED to get medical attention it won’t matter who’s paying for it.
That’s it, right there. Is Obama a Marxist, a Muslim? First and foremost, he’s a racist (see: treatment of his grandmother). He hates the white part of himself, with a passion, he wants, as Morgan Freeman demanded, to be the first real black President – but he can’t.
Anyhow, that was WJ Clinton..
He’s half African, but had to buy his African-Americanness from Michelle. If he’d have married a white woman, he’d be just another lawyer now.
What Cynical Wonder kinda neglects to mention is that under ObamaCare, Medicare is cut by 500 billion dollars. If old people love medical care, they’ll vote against the guy who wants to take it away from them (that would be Obama, Cynical Wonder).
BTW, have you moved out of your mom’s basement yet?
You seem to be unaware that many doctors limit their Medicare patient load as it pays below-market rates. A coupon would allow people to see the doctor of their choice. Many European countries have plans that are not too dissimilar, except the individual can upgrade their entire policy, not just one visit at a time. Even in Britain, seniors can go outside the NHS. In the US, seniors are NOT ALLOWED to go outside Medicare unless they see someone who doesn’t take medicare at all. And there will be doctors like that in the future as the doctor shortage worsens.
Liberal = race.
Do elderly white people hate Obama more than…
Barack Hussein is a mulato. That you ignore the Caucasian half of him is racist. I’d understand this if you’re black, which you may be, for racism is rampant among black Americans. But, man, it would be really pathetic is you are a white person singing this irrelevant, but racist, tune. That would be both confused and craven.
Either way, we know for sure you’re a racist.
Thanks, Mr. Simon, and thanks, FeralCat and paul_unalaska.
Well, well, well. Good one for Rombo. I didn’t know he had it in him. Truly. Paul Ryan–wow, many, many, many of us all said the Repubs didn’t run their A-team this time around? But now Romney has picked one of the most often-mentioned A-teamers to be his Veep.
Paul Ryan, a great guy, a decent man, and one heck of a smart politician. A star.
As we can see from a comment above, the trolls’ heads are exploding. They didn’t know Mitt had it in him, either.
Savor this moment. What the Obamination (and after the mud he’s thrown in the last couple of weeks, Bam deserves that title) is feeling is what the Witch King of Angmar felt when Eowyn threw off her helm and her long blonde hair blew in the breeze, and the Lord of the Nazgul knew he faced the one of whom his prophecy of doom had spoken.
Savor it, my friends. And for all you trolls, the sun has risen, and you can turn to stone.
PS I esp like the symbolism of the battleship Wisconsin–how COOL is that?!
An Préachán
It is a bit ironic that Romney choose a guy who trashed Romneycare when just the other day Andrea Saul was praising Mitt’s greatest accomplishment, Romneycare. Can’t wait to see how they square Romneycare with Ryancare!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EnYlx3Rh-Lg&feature=youtu.be
As Nate Silver over at 538 said, “I think Ryan pick (if rumors true) indicates bearish view from Romney campaign. Not a pick you make if you think you’re ahead.”
WAIT! WAIT! The results of my scientific poll are just in. In response to my question “what do you think of Romney’s pick of Paul Ryan for his running mate?”, 100% of my NEA teachers union friends responded by checking the box which stated “We hate his guts.” Therefore, one can only conclude that it was a great pick! But don’t let the results of my poll get you down, CW. You’ve got that intellectual powerhouse and representative of all liberal “thinkers” Joe Biden on your side!
So much sound and fury from you, CW, over the Ryan pick. Methinks you’re beefing the choice not because you think he’s the worst possible choice. Rather, I think you’re worried.
That alone tells me that this is the correct choice.
You know, so many of the issue in the news are irrelevant. They can be solved at leisure. But the economy?
Remember Eisenhower’s speech about the military-industrial complex? Yeah, sure you do, because it’s a great sound-bite to take a slap at anyone on the right who believes, as we all do, in a strong military. But most people don’t remember that Eisenhower also touched on America’s economic might, and felt it was THE most important thing, as everything else flows from that.
(Ike not only mentioned this in several speeches, he covers this in his book, Mandate for Change)
And did you notice the music? It was from the movie, “Air Force One.” Gave me goosebumps.
Just wait till I come out with my new ad. It will have Ryan helping Romney kill women by giving them cancer and my next ad will have Ryan with Allen West punching women in the face. I can’t lose with my brilliant strategy.
A vote for incumbent president Barack Obama in November is a vote against the United States Constitution. Furthermore, it is a vote for one’s own enslavement.
No American president has demonstrated such contempt for the Constitution, the concept of separation of powers, and the American spirit in as small an amount of time as Obama. His transgressions and insults are legion:
He has initiated an unprecedented expansion of executive and regulatory power to grant waivers from the law to individuals and groups for political purposes, financial gain, or both.
He has enacted rules governing pieces of legislation that are incomprehensible, leading to increased power to those in power through their interpretation of those rules.
He has overseen a deadly criminal gun-walking operation to foreign gangsters, in defiance of the law and placing our national security at risk.
His attorney general, in connection with that scheme, is officially in contempt of Congress.
He has attempted to nationalize one-sixth of the American economy in defiance of the Constitution and the principles of the free market.
He has attempted to declare when the United States Senate is in or out of session, in direct violation of the Constitution and the separation of powers.
He has sunk billions of taxpayer funds into one boondoggle after another.
He has refused, in many instances, to perform his duty-bound oath to enforce the law.
He has established commissions with sweeping mandates populated by czars that do not answer to the citizenry via the Congress.
He has attempted to foster a sneering contempt for self-reliance, entrepreneurship, and freedom.
He has increased the debt of this nation into the trillions and mortgaged the future of generations of Americans in a futile and arrogant attempt to manage economic growth by government edict.
Those are but a few of Obama’s crimes and blunders.
Well said. Simple and clear.
Good to copy and use as notes when
talking with undecideds.
Thanks.
“It’s the Economy – and its NOT stupid!” is a pretty lousy effort at a catch phrase. Romney and Ryan will certainly make a great case for turning the economy around and provide a clear statement on what is needed and lay out a specific plan,
but a cool, nerdy, reasoned appeal is not enough in the face of a balls-to-the-wall Axelrod/Alinsky attack. Palin had greater “charisma” than Ryan but it couldn’t save McCain’slow-pitched, “”nuanced” approach. They’ll have deliver the old 1-2: sound economics on the right and hard hook on the left to win the gut-voting independents. A sense of the magnitude of the risk we face MUST be conveyed.
Their economic message will need to be featured against a background of the dangers of the Obama drift to Socialism.
He Quacks like a Socialist, taxes like a socialist, flocks with socialists, blocks like a socialist, and ducks like a socialist.
Can’t they bring themselves to point out that he probably IS a Socialist?…. and do we really want Socialism?
Actually, I would have to disagree that ‘Socialist’ is the best term to describe Obama. There is a term that would more acurately describe Obama and his ilk, but unfortunately it is a term that has been rendered completely toxic and unusable as a descriptive since the Second World War. Although the term ‘Socialism’ may have a much broader application these days than its original meaning, ultimately one has to say that it requires governmental ownership of the means of production in a state. I don’t believe that Obama desires the governmental ownership of all the means of production in the USA. He does, however, wish to control the economy of the USA through legislative, regulatory and ‘moral’ suasion. There was a political philosophy that advocated such a system of government that was quite popular in the 1920′s and 30′s, first in Italy, but it came to be popular among many throughout Europe, and even had its advocates in the USA. The political theory of “Everything in the state, nothing outside the state, nothing against the state” was advocated by Giovanni Gentile, and later by the editor of the Italian Socialist Party’s newspaper, Benito Mussolini. That political movement is of course known as Fascism. Unfortunately, since the Second World War that term has come to be associated with Hitler and the German National Socialist Workers Party (Nazis), and therefore cannot be used in an objective way. However, if one just refers to the original writings of Gentile and Mussolini, as well as the functioning of the Italian Fascist Party and State, especially in the 1920′s and early 30′s, one can see that it is a much more accurate term for Obama and his vision of the role and purpose of the state. I would refer anyone interested in the topic to Jonah Goldberg’s “Liberal Fascism” for enlightenment.
Fascism = government influence over the means of production.
Socialism = government control over the means of production.
Communism = government ownership of the means of production.
I just dont understand a vote for hugobama,16 BIG ONES in debt,spending out the Wazooo,and a running away,screaming 3 stooges reaction to Milton Friedmans Capitalism! Is this the result of the worst students in the school winning political office?
What I’d like to see is Romney/Ryan, or the PAC’s — paint a real, truthful picture of what life will be like in 2016 if O is re-elected.
It’ll be really ugly … but most people don’t see it/can’t picture it.
I think many don’t quite understand how the nation being in debt is actually going to affect their day to day lives — or plans for their own and children’s future — very specifically.
Labels and generalities won’t quite do it.
People need to be given some help to envision it.
I’m still wondering how we know it’s Ryan (other than the plane landing thing). The announcement is still about five hours away by my clock.
Even if by some remote chance Romney did not pick Ryan, he would have to pick him now.
Paul Ryan as VP– now that is a pleasant surprise. I thought it would have gone to Rubio or Portman and didn’think Romney had it in him.
From the posts, it looks as if the pants crapping has already begun and it will smell worse as it gets closer to November.
Congrats Mr. Ryan.
I figured this was the pick of someone with a lead,Rubio brings some Mexican votes and Portman gives him Ohio!!?
Ditto; I really thought it would be Portman or Rubio.
I’m excited that he’s naming such a serious political star as his running mate. I’m also guessing that Biden is now trying to figure out a way to avoid a debate. Ryan is definitely a winner.
As a further aside, Rubio probably would not bring in much of the Mexican vote since he’s of Cuban extraction. Mexicans and Cubans don’t always see eye-to-eye.
Rubio would certainly have been a benefit in Florida but I think Mitt can carry FL on his own. (I hope)
I don’t know about Florida. They’re counting on double-dip democrat votes from snowbirds who vote back home and again in Florida. With Holder’s blessing.
Perhaps Romney realized that he’s now behind in the polls *nationally*. It’s no longer a case of focusing on just winning one key swing state. So even if Rubio delivered Florida, Romney might lose Ohio and lose the election. Conversely, even if Portman delivered Ohio, Romney might lose the election due to losses in other states.
Romney has to excite voters across the country, and Ryan is the guy to do that.
Romney is ahead by 2, that lead will grow. Obama may land a telling blow, but it will be out of left field from the conventional perspective.
Obama leads in polls that oversample liberals.
I am not so enthusiastic about the prospects of Ryan as VP. If he manages to help get Romney elected (or, to be more correct, get Obama dis-elected), then I suppose that is the primary mission. However, after the election Ryan would then become an irrelevency, as all VP’s do. Meanwhile, if any real progress is to be made in getting America’s looming fiscal and budgetary catastrophy under control, there will have to be serious work done in Congress, and especially in the House of Representatives. Ryan seems to be one of the rare few who could have the intestinal fortitude to hold the line and convince his colleagues to do what needs to be done. In the long run, I think he would be much more effective and useful in his present position than in the completely useless position of VP. Of course, if Obama manages to win re-election, then the whole point is moot, so there is that. I would like to see someone like Nikki Haley, Marco Rubio, Bobby Jindal or even Kelly Ayotte as VP, for example. We all know what the MSM template is going to be with a Ryan pick, right? Two white males, war on women, the ticket doesn’t look like America, etc. Putting an “ethnic” and/or a woman on the ticket would go some way towards innoculating against that line of attack, and if any of the above should happen to be elected VP they wouldn’t be missed so much from their current positions as Ryan (with the possible exception of Rubio). I think Ryan does better on the “heartbeat away from the Presidency” test, but Romney is a relatively young, healthy man, so in reality I don’t think this is a likely scenario.
As an aside, since this article got me thinking about Congress and the work that will lie ahead should Romney win election, I also started to think about the opposite (i.e. what if Obama is re-elected). If Obama wins re-election, and the Republicans retain control of the House of Representatives and win control of the Senate, I think that Obama will face impeachment during his second term. Obama’s totalitarian tendencies have been coming to the forefront ever since the 2010 elections. He has no interest in the legislative process when he is required to negotiate rather than dictate. He was able to just barely function from 2009-2010 when he had super majorities in both houses of Congress. Now he prefers to rule by fiat through executive orders, “recess” appointments, assertions of executive priviledge and regulatory chicanery. If he is faced with a Congress that is entirely Republican, I can see him attempting to completely bypass Congress in order to “get things done”. At some point, he is bound to make a grab that is so egregious even the most spineless Congressman will be faced with the choice of protecting the constitutional position of Congress,or rendering it an irrelevency.
you bring up some good points
however, pandering to the demographic optics is an exercise of futility since the left will deify anything and everyone; the right wins with message not appearances
ryan’s greatest strength will be the pulpit he now gets to articulate the dreaded state of our economic house of cards and can navigate the non-stop lying and heavy-handed smokescreens being dished out on a daily basis
sure, he will be missed in the house but articulating the economic situation is more valuable at this very moment and having him a “president of the senate” can also focus the magnifying glass on the stonewalling and incompetence wafting from therein
I see Paul Ryan, a mature, knowledgeable and articulate leader as a superb choice.
For me, the key attribute is ‘he is the one Republican Obama fears.’
Paul S,
You articulate correctly.
I hoped for one of two guys, Ryan and Rand Paul. These men believe things that our Founders would recognize.
The reason we are in such deep trouble boils down to two things; we spend far more than we take in and we are very far afield from the limited federalism that he Constitution established.
Romney just gave America a stark choice. Ryan is a fiscal pureblood. He is a highbore free marketer. He is the Austrian economist. Romney just proclaimed “we can keep doing what we have been doing for the last 100 years and destroy ourselves or we can begin to move back towards what the Founders intended and restore our future.”
Mitt, congratulations. I underestimated you. You made the correct choice.
Brave Call, I didn’t think he had it in him…
The simple fact is the spending and growth of government is out of control and the next president WILL be faced with 2 equally unpleasant choices -
1) Feed some sacred cows through the wood chipper and actually CUT the spending and by doing so show the international debt market that the United States has a future as a first world country or
2) Keep spending until we have a Greece moment and face full blown currency collapse ala Argentina 2001.
4 more years of “fundamental transformation – into a destitute third world s**thole” WILL guarantee Option 2.
That’s the change Obama’s bringing, the Failed States of Mexetina.
Thank God there now seems to be a different alternative on the table…
Looks like CW didn’t just crap his pants but got verbal diarrhea too. That’s a twofer!
Ladies; just before the first Ryan-Biden debate make sure that you empty your bladders so as not to make a mess laughing hysterically during the preoceedings.
Thank you, Carla. My feelings exactly. I will be serving popcorn for this event. Ryan vs Biden it is just too much to hope for. Thank you Mitt Romney. Thank you, thank you, thank you.
Can we bet that,what are the odds?
If I was Biden I might be worried that I might have a bad accident between now and the first debate.
Let’s not get ahead of ourselves, ladies. I don’t think there will be a VP debate. IMO, Biden won’t have the guts.
This is the best bit of evidence that Romney has the goods to succeed. Excellent choice. The opposition, which has nothing in its toolkit except fear and loathing, will be very worried. But, they must be who they are so expect the lowest and be prepared to be impressed with the fact that they will go even lower. Good move Mitt. Keep moving in the “right” direction.
The fear here is that Ryan has clipped his wings: the VP slot is not where he can be most effective; he belongs at the sharp end of the budget battle. Since when was the VP slot a bully pulpit? I hope I’m wrong.
The good news: the support he’s received from congressional R grandees is deplorable, and as v-p he may be able to return the favor. The bad news: charismatic he ain’t (as R Simon carefully puts it, he’s ‘more charismatic’ — in relation, say, to the doorknob that is Romney), but he’s hardly the rabble-rousing, podium-pounding rage-against-the-machine guy Romney needs to put blood and credibility — actually, life — into his campaign.
And don’t you worry that it’s taken so long for the GOP to realise the best election-winning strategy is the economy? It’s all very well to salivate at the thought of a Ryan vs Biden debate, but the main event remains Doorknob vs Doofus — which is not a foregone conclusion.
‘Tomorrow might be different.’ – Mack Reynolds, master of near-future SF.
The Vice President can be just as important and powerful as the President
wishes him to be, and when the 2nd Great Depression arrives, he will
need to be; The people will be screaming for relief _now_ , not later,
and they will not care which Laws or Constitutional provisions are broken.
What I’m wondering about is the conversation going on over at the White House about now. I wonder if, between Romney’s official announcement of Ryan (assuming it is Ryan) and Day 1 of the Dem National Convention, VP Biden decides that he’s concerned about his health and decides to step down as VP to “spend more time with his family.”
I think the chances of Biden leaving the ticket are negligible. The reason: impeachment insurance. Although it is getting pretty late in the game at this point, I always thought that if the Democrat National Convention rolls around and Obama thinks that he is going to be outside the margin of fraud come November, he would withdraw himself from the nomination to prevent the catastrophic damage to his overinflated superego that would accompany such a rejection. Of course, he would probably rationalize the defeat as a lack of vision and/or intelligence on the part of the American electorate, and not with his own failures and limited ability. If that does happen, I can envisage a scene sometime in early January, 2013 where he has a Captain Queeg moment like “The Caine Mutiny”. Standing in the well of the House, delivering his final State of the Union address, making accusations of sinister plots against him while playing with marbles and mumbling about strawberry ice cream.
History tells us that the VP, in office, is utterly ignored by everyone. Somehow I don’t think that Romney will waste Ryan’s talents on State Funerals. Expect to see much more of Ryan than everyone else will be expecting. It’ll be a whole new role, defined by someone worthy of the task, with a boss who appreciates his contributions and isn’t afraid to give him credit where due. Game changer.
President Bush certainly didn’t ignore VP Cheney.
Paul Ryan will obliterate Biden in a debate…and I suspect Biden will only agree to one of them. Biden will offer up the garden variety snarky, class warfare tripe that we have been conditioned with….and will slip in the usual digs designed to generate a defensive reaction from Ryan. It will be met with serious and articulate demonstrations of leadership and intellect…This won’t be a debate…it will be a seminar…with one teacher and one heckler.
Thing about Joe Biden — he’s delusional — he thinks he’s intelligent. He leads with his ego, has no self-awareness and has no idea how dumb he is.
I think the debate will be cringe-worthy — kinda sad and painful to watch.
Boring, actually — with no challenge.
The GOP has lost every single one of its principles.
Paul Ryan voted for:
– TARP
– Stimulus funds
– GM bailout
– Medicare D
– No Child Left Behind
I hope everyone who is supporting Romney/Ryan understands that they are unofficially endorsing the above legislation as well as the prototype for Obamacare.
Nay on stimulus, nay on TARP.
For starters.
Looks like you’re not exactly telling the truth
Apparently he did vote for TARP, but was a definite nay on stimulus. (vote Feb. 13, 2009)
For some reason, my links aren’t going through, but Ryan voted yes on both 2009-H659 and Nancy Pelosi’s earlier 2008 HR-5140.
HR-5140 vote was January 2008, a year before Obama took office.
It is misleading to say Ryan voted “yea” on “Stimulus”, which is popularly known as the vote under Obama’s reign in February 2009.
You know, nearly $1 trillion in our money down the drain?
I don’t find H-659 in the list I linked of Ryan votes.
Ryan explains his yea vote on GM as reflecting his constituency, gee, a representative who might actually think he’s there to represents someone, imagine that.
It seems like your original post is primarily agenda driven, Aaron.
“HR-5140 vote was January 2008, a year before Obama took office.”
So stimulus spending was ‘good’ before Obama took office?
“It is misleading to say Ryan voted “yea” on “Stimulus”, which is popularly known as the vote under Obama’s reign in February 2009.”
You mean the “Economic Stimulus Act of 2008″ doesn’t count as the stimulus?
http://www.govtrack.us/congress/votes/110-2008/h42
It was THIS bill that made the Tea Party angry about the later Reinvestement Act. It was adding insult to injury. The last straw, not the first offense.
Ryan was voting for stimulus before Obama made it cool and continued to support it when the Tea Party made it uncool. Which brings us to:
“I don’t find H-659 in the list I linked of Ryan votes.”
http://www.ontheissues.org/HouseVote/Party_2009-H659.htm
Well there you go. He not only voted to add stimulus funds to Rangel’s Big Labor giveaway Highway bill, he voted for the bill too.
http://www.govtrack.us/congress/votes/111-2009/h659
Anyway, what’s your purpose “Aaron?”
What’s your suggestion?
Great assessment, as usual, Roger…..
Now let the Fiscal Cliff Games begin!
A good executive is judged by the quality of the people he surrounds himself with. He doesn’t have to know everything by himself, in fact, a good president will let his people shine and take the spotlight when due. A good executive’s triumph is in the superior functioning of the whole organization. He has to recognize ability and intelligence in others, bring them together and forge them into an effective and productive team. This is a good first step for Romney in putting together his government team and is an indicator of his own character and intelligence.
I heard a stronger version of that rule:
A good manager has at least one person on her staff who can replace her;
A poor manager has nobody on his staff who is remotely capable of so doing.
Actually, Roger…this choice makes perfect sense. For a myriad of reasons.
Yes, yes…I know…I was a Ryan man early on, pushing hard for a Ryan/Rubio ticket or maybe Mitch Daniels. For the very reasons you articulate above. I wanted serious, articulate, “wonkish” candidates. “Wonk the Donks” was my mantra.
For all of my trepidations about Romney (he’s a political oaf at times, he and his team are prone to self-inflicted wounds, they fail to excite, have a sort of milquetoast blandness, do not connect well with…humans…they bring baggage like a Leona Helmsley/Imelda Marcos sleepover)Romney has a couple things going for him.
No matter how hard or how often the Obama slime machine pukes out Bain Capital faux atrocities, Romney comes across as a detail-oriented C-Suite executive who is going to coldly analyze the facts and methodically work the problem.
His emotional range is equal to Keanu Reeve’s acting range. He is nearly a flat-liner. And, he is very comfortable around wonkish, detail-oriented, dig the answers out of the dirt, solid citizen, stable, emotionally controlled types.
Portman, Pawlenty, …were always going to reflect the Romney image. Rubio was my choice for VP (with Ryan in the top spot)because he is articulate, charismatic, young, fresh, and brought pride to Latino/spanish speaking voters who make up an ever increasing percentage of the electorate. He could deal in the details, but gave the ticket emotional range.
However, it is imperative to do everything possible to obtain the Senate. Portman and Rubio are in swing states and we could not afford to give up those seats.
While Ryan in the House could do great things on paper, nothing can get done without the Senate votes.
Ryan has more emotional range than Romney. He has more charisma. He is likeable and you can’t push his buttons easily. He is not prone to gaffe blasting the airwaves, he is young, fresh, hard working and courageous. He actually is willing to LEAD…and not from behind.
He has ideas and unlike some, he actually thinks them through before launching them from an “idea a minute” frenzy pad.
He won’t be pugnacious for sport and that may disappoint the red meat crowd. He’s a team player and not a Chuck Schumer camera whore or a guy looking for a book tour and a talk show.
Frankly, Roger…he wasn’t just the best pick, he was the ONLY pick all along.
Foreign affairs experience will have to come from someplace else on this ticket. Biden had “experience” in that space, much like the guy who never gets promoted but doesn’t get fired at your office has “experience”, but little talent. He’s been breathing the same air as the best and the brightest for a few decades, but making the same mistakes and remains only as a “legacy employee”. Everyone knows he doesn’t cut it, but somehow he remains a “hanger on” who regales everyone at the Christmas party about how he “trained” all the younger pups…when he couldn’t carry their coffee mugs.
Ryan is the guy that the Fabians feared. Not Pawlenty or Portman. They would have really feared Ryan/Rubio. But Ryan can get the conversation onto the economy and the budget…and keep it there. That has to scare the living daylights out of the slime machine that can’t produce one.
Now…we have to help this ticket overcome the cheating, lying, smearing, slander, distortion, that oozes from the pores of the small c communists and their flying monkeys in the Propaganda and Lies Ministry.
And help them…as if OUR lives depended on it.
Ryan’s lack of foreign policy experience won’t be a problem, as long as the voters continue to care most about jobs and the economy.
It would take some really dramatic event to change that, like a 9-11 style major terrorist attack or war with Iran. But if (heaven forbid) such a thing were to happen, it wouldn’t redound to Obama’s benefit anyway.
You’re right, sinz…but, it’s the one place they can pin a true and accurate weakness on this ticket.
Matching wits with Biden is fighting with an unarmed man, but he WILL try to play up his one purported “advantage”. It’s all he’s got.
With the Arab Spring in full “sprung”…with Iran building nukes, Assad crumbling, Egypt wavering, Europe collapsing, Putin flexing, China cheating, and Mexico invading…we have a number of things on the horizon that can be placed in secondary queue behind the shattered economy, but we ignore them at our peril.
This is not to say that Obama/Biden haven’t butchered every single item on this list, they have…they are worse than useless. But the cheating, lying, sleazy, slime-oozing Propaganda Machine will find ANY weakness and exploit the hell out of it.
Catching them and the Obamaslimes internal ooze kings in yet another lie is one thing, it’s quite another to contend with something that has an ounce of merit. The Daily Duranty/WaPoo/CNN contingent will put out a steady stream of “terrifying doubt”…having a ticket with no foreign policy experience. We already have seen how they treated Romney’s trip to London, Israel and Poland.
Anything to keep the eye diverted from the abortion that Obama/Biden have called their “first term”.
Yea team !
You don’t get to the level Romney did in the world of finance without a solid grounding in foreign affairs. And then there was that whole Olympics thing. He had to deal with every country and all of their unique quirks and requirements.
Beyond all that, the correct choice for Secretary of State will go a long way in establishing a firm foundation and restoring our place in the global community.
Not a good choice I know, but I’d pay a nickel to see them name Dick Cheney just to watch all the lib heads explode.
Secretary of State
John Bolton, speaks the truth, takes no prisoners.
Understands “speak softly and carry a big stick”
Petraeus at State or DOD would be consistent with the Romney-Ryan ticket stylistically.
Understated, solid, stable, not easily ruffled, detail oriented, bright, articulate …if we are going with a theme here and painting a picture, this seems to fit.
If I was Romney, I would keep going down this path. You want to get the Chicago Mob, go with the Untrashables.
A very rare individual, General Petraeus.
Great line, Chicago Mob v. Untrashables.
This is a risky and dangerous pick by Romney. It tells me that he has determined that he is losing the campaign and that he needs to take a bold move to shift the dynamics of the the presidential contest. It reminds me a lot of McCain’s choosing of Sarah Palin for as the VP pick in 2008. Not that Ryan isn’t a serious candidate (he is, Palin was not.) But this remake of American society is deeply radical and is highly detrimental to the interests of the middle class. More tax cuts for the wealthy and huge entitlements drawbacks for the middle and working classes. I can’t think of a worse message to run on for the Republicans. But at least they are presenting an honest message for once. This is probably the end of Romney’s chances but the campaign will offer two distinct options for American advancement.
I don’t exactly agree with you, but I agree that the media will definitely see it as you do. I don’t think America is ready for Ryan. We are not in bad enough shape yet to want to take our medicine.
“We are not in bad enough shape yet to want to take our medicine.”
We are but don’t want to admit it.
We could have the dream team in Washington with the solution BUT the majority of Americans (regardless of political affiliation) will not accept the austerity necessary to restore this country.
You’re incorrect about what Romney is proposing on taxes:
http://www.mittromney.com/issues/tax
But I have an old-fashioned idea: Tell the truth, say what you really believe, and let the chips fall where they may.
If this what conservatives believe needs to be done to stimulate the economy, they should say so. Not emulate Obama in 2008 and keep their agenda a secret to fool Middle America into voting for their candidate.
Gaius —
Choosing Ryan is only dangerous because of lies and mischaracterizations that the Dems and MSM will use against him.
“But this remake of American society is deeply radical”
There is NO “REMAKE” of American society.
And it’s certainly not radical.
Quite the opposite —
it’s just getting back in touch with our (real) values — indepence, courage, self-respect, individualism — after 4 years of … don’t you remember? …
“Fundamental Transformation?”
That’s what’s radical.
What’s “radical” is seducing America with bread and circuses — changing our values to “dependence is good” — “you are entitled” and the “government will take care of you” — (not for the truly unfortunate and disabled — as a safety net — but treating All able-bodied Americans as if they were “disabled” and “unfortunate”) … all you have to do is give them your spirit and soul.
That’s radical. That’s “change.”
“… and is highly detrimental to the interests of the middle class. More tax cuts for the wealthy and huge entitlements drawbacks for the middle and working classes.”
THERE AREN’T ANY “TAX CUTS” — Tax cuts were made almost 10 years ago. They are tax rates now. What the Dems want is to “RAISE” taxes, but they want to keep MISLABELING — “not raising taxes,” as “tax cuts”.
It’s so dishonest, and the MSM just goes along with it.
And the constant meme of “Millionaires and Billionaires” is an outright lie — it’s people who have income of over $200,000. That’s your neighborhood hardware store or restaurant. Yes, the rich too — so what? It’s not cuts — it’s just stopping tax raises — and the money of the rich doesn’t get stuffed in the mattress — it gets invested and helps business, the economy and (and jobs) grow. The top 1% already pay 40% of revenue.
There will be no “huge entitlement drawbacks” — It’s only recently introduced and future growth of entitlements that will be affected. Entitlements have been raised outlandishly in the last 4 years — Applying for Food Stamps is encouraged by taxpayer-paid TV ads! More people applied for “Disability” this year — for the first time in history — that’s radical!
IN ORDER TO FRIGHTEN AND MISLEAD THE PUBLIC AND OUR ELDERS … Ryan’s budget has been totally mis-characterized by the Dems and their MSM. His plan actually protects Social Security and Medicare for those over 55 now.
In fact, it’s the Dems ignoring of the problem — and stealing $500 Billion from Medicare — that are going to bankrupt those “entitlements” in 10-12 years.
Yes, Ryan’s plan does affect “old age” entitlements — for the “next” generation — but what he wants to put in place will be better.
If it’s possible to get the truth to the voting public — choosing Ryan won’t have been a “dangerous” choice.
Note — Re the “raised taxes from the “rich”" — They will not go to pay for “entitlements” — that’ll be left to more borrowing from our grandchildren who will be beholden to a China on the rise –
The raised taxes will be used for Cronies — just as the “Stimulous” funds were and still are. They’ll be used to pay off those who contribute to the Democrat politicians — and for favorite hobbies like “Cowboy Poetry” (over $1 Million) — and monuments to bureaucrats. (As funds from benefits to soldiers were instead used to build a library dedicated to Ted Kennedy.)
Just a note regarding Medicare.
If you think that the Death Panels and they are “Death Panels” instituted to curtail costs by rationing — will not severely curtail treatment — much more so than any insurance company would — you are sorely mistaken.
My mother had heart valve surgery at 80 two decades ago — if the doctor approved it, the insurance paid it — and we had her for another 12 good and vibrant years. There’s no way that would have been approved under any rationing board death panel — who will decide whose life is worthy of saving and whose is not.
And if you don’t think favoritism will have play in this — just look at the arbitrary way waivers to Obamacare have been “granted” by the Czar. Most Republican Red State types were … denied.
Lincoln’s replica log cabin in Hodgenville, Ky is more “charismatic” than Mitt. Romney did a McCain but likely with a more presentable candidate. He’s mostly secured his base. That’s a good thing for Mitt. Folks at Powerline are waxing how great Ryan is – the most notable person in the House since Jack Kemp. Lost in the shuffle is the shellacking the Dole-Kemp ticket took in 1996.
We have two Northern, articulate, religious, trim, healthy, smiling, privileged, white, males who inspire with spreadsheets.
Do you hear the creaky grandma over-the-cliff wheelchair rounding the bend this morning? If you can’t write the ads against a Romney-Ryan ticket call the DNC. You may have trouble understanding them, what with all the saliva dripping on the phone.
Facts are facts. Math is math. We don’t have this conversation now, we have it when our currency collapses. Personally, I’d rather have it now. Go, Paul Ryan!
The Republicans and Romney just won the election. Libs (and lib trolls on this site)–get used to it.
Demagogue all you want. I think most people see that for what it is.
If the Dems had put up a budget in the Senate in the last 3 years which would have shown Americans their priorities–maybe they have standing to criticize.
If the President had shown one iota of leadership and proposed a budget and an economic plan which clearly showed where he is coming from (which clearly he doesn’t want anyone to know, since it is too left for all of us save some idiots in Berkeley and the West Side of Manhattan), he would have standing to criticize.
The Dems and the President have given us nothing in policy and leadership to address our fiscal crisis. Nothing, Nada. Zero. I challenge any Lib/Dem troll on this site to show us all one (just one) serious, broad proposal to deal with our economy proposed by this administration.
There aren’t any–but that’s what you get when you elect an empty suit, with zero real world experience, and basically zero political skills save those that serve his enormous ego. This error is compounded when he gives us a Treasury secretary who not only is a tax cheat but also sat back and did nothing with full knowledge several years ago that Barclay’s was fudging the LIBOR.
Is it no surprise with these clowns that we are on the hook as taxpayers for over $20 billion in failed nonsense like Soylendra?
“Tax the rich?” you say? Yeah, right. If everyone making over $500K per year gave ALL of their income to the Feds, it would amount to about $75-100 billion and change. That’s really going to help–NOT.
It looks like Romney et al are serious with this VP pick. The sounds you hear are one great big belch from the DC establishment and the Democratic party. The buffet may be over, guys, you ate too much, and now its time for a giant dose of Pepto-bismol. You’ll know how serious an issue this is when, like rats fleeing a sinking ship, the lib establishment starts looking for outside employment in the next few weeks. It will be subtle and quiet, but keep your eyes open and your ears tuned. That will tell you that the big money knows that O is toast.
With the combination of the Ryan pick, the nastiness of what this Boston crew is capable of (remember the primaries, anyone), and the floodgates of money about to appear after the nomination, this is going to be like a baseball bat to the empty piñata that is the current Democratic party and its equally empty current president and leader.
Please, the Republicans had the 2012 election to lose when the O won 2008.
As CW as demonstrated above in spades, the slimestream media and assorted strap hangers have their panties in a wad this morning!
Romney made an excellent choice. Paul Ryan brings a lot to the table. Yes, he made some votes that he might regret, but that is true of almost all politicians I can think of. And, most of those mentioned above by AB were “team” votes.
We are in a war with Barry Hussein Soetoro Obama and his minions. Axelrod and company can be counted on to continue to proffer the most vile and untrue crap they can devise. The slimestream media will continue to parrot it. Chicago politics coupled with the 0′s personal preference for socialist/marxist endeavors will produce a bloody campaign – we ain’t seen nothin’ yet!
So, friends and countrymen/women, onward into battle with swords drawn. And, remember, he who beats his swords into plowshares will soon be plowing for him that didn’t.
I’m so happy with this pick that even my toes are wiggling!!!! Yea! Go Romney!!!
Win or lose, now it is a true contest of ideas. Romney has shown courage and imo, shown he wants to win. The more the left attacks Ryan, the more we know with certainty, they are afraid. THIS TICKET IS WORTH FIGHTING FOR!!!!!!!
I am continually amazed with people, you have bought everything the pundits say about Romney, now they are surprised. Perhaps, if you would have listened to Mitt in lieu of the pundits on both sides, you would have known. Start listening to the candidates and ignore the pundits both Right and Left as they have missed the entire concept of Romney. The Obama folks cannot change as thinking is not their long suit or their agenda is very different from our so what they think or not think is not important as they will not be voting for this ticket anyway. Romney/Ryan 2012
I’m guilty of listening to the ‘conservative’ pontificators. It was Romney’s choice of Ryan that got me to start digging. I’m actually becoming optimistic
Delighted with this selection! Romney/Ryan it is. I need a new coffee mug at work, hope the campaign has some ready to go (this team probably does not need government to “build” them).
Yep, the ECONOMY is back on the table is it’s the MAIN COURSE. Something Obama & Uncle Axel surely didn’t want.
As long as Romney & Ryan keep bringing the focus back to the bad economy, soaring deficits & impending financial ruin of SS, Medicare, US Post Office, et al, this team will set the pace.
Just stick the knife in & keep twisting.
Romney is proving himself to be a decision maker. I guess he didn’t get where he is making bad decisions.
Yep. There goes Florida.
I like Ryan, but he is ahead of our time.
Agreed. Romney can not be elected without Florida and Ryan’s position on Medicare concedes the Sunshine State to 0bama. Everything else is a moot point with less than 3 months until the election to make a convincing enough argument to open any eyes, let alone change minds.
I just disagree…I think. Most of the retirees in FL are of bourgeois stock and educated. They surely will understand Medicare for current retirees will not be tinkered with; they are not dopes are they?
I want to see Rep Ryan team up with Sen Rubio and TOUR Florida. The Sen gets the crowd warmed up and receptive, and then the wonk blows them away with mind-pictures of how we will NOT be saddling our grandchildren with more tons of debt. How current Medicare members will keep their present arrangement, but future Medicare will be more receptive to customer demands… rather than the one size fits all government model.
I can see the combo selling this well in the sunshine state.
tom
Exactly what’s going to happen next week.
Wonderful to see that video again (Ryan confronting Obama on costs of Obamacare).
Obama has a deer in the headlights look, panic, pompous dismissal wasn’t gonna work with this guy Ryan.
Is it too much to dream that substance could return to our national debate?
CW,
We have lost an average of 475K jobs A WEEK for the last 42 months (After the stimulus). That’s roughly 23.9 millions jobs lost. So, the question becomes, is this about the economy?
Wait until the media finds out about the time that Ryan went for a entire day with one dark blue sock and one black sock!! Why they’ll spend an entire week denouncing Ryan for this gaffe alone!
Right now, there are five hundred ultra-leftist media types beginning to break down Ryan’s childhood and life to find real or imagined flaws. They will search like they should have done with Bam and Joey.
Harry Reid hasn’t yet weighed in with something like: “I have been told by a reliable source that he does terrible things to small furry animals.”
Big furry animals- he’s a bowhunter.
There goes the all-important PETA vote.
He even wore a red sock once! One red sock, as if he had murdered a little girl and soaked his white sock red.
That’s not the worst of it. As one caller said this morning: a good Catholic doesn’t hide from the nuns. Expect the media to showcase nuns or priests who have been ‘unable’ to meet with Ryan to discuss what his budget would do.
Tanstaafl, it IS too much to dream that substance will be returned to our debate. The smear campaign will continue indefinitely.
Paul Ryan’s father died while Paul was still a teenager. This probably means he got survivors’ benefits from SS that helped him go to college. Expect dems to use this to smear him as well.
If Ryan truely wore one black and one blue sock then chances are he is colorblind….unlike the MSM, Democrat party and the Rascist in Chief.
Think of the numerous lefty [news] outlets as bed bugs, on their best day not worth a damn!
Once again the VP pick is far superior to the top of the ticket. We dodged a bullet, lots of wet noodles on that list . Bad day for the Democrat media complex.
Romney needs to flood the airways today with an ad that points out Obamacare cut $600 Billion from Medicare for CURRENT enrollees.
Not to worry. AARP is standing by to fill the gap with their insurance products.
Ryan is the best person in politics, but he’s the highest risk choice as VP.
The Criminal in Chief’s incompetance and failures were a winning issue.
Forcing a conversation about Medicare and Social Security when the other side lies like they breahte and will say anything to get re-elected isn’t a winning conversation.
right man; wrong election
The only courageous decision Romney has ever made may have handed the election to the marxist cons.
#40 is right. Romney better flood the airways starting TODAY with obama’s Medicare theft.
I thought I was hallucinating until I recognized that this is NOT the Roger Simon from L.A. Times and other lefty publications and “Inside Washington”. I agree with everything said in this piece.
“Ryan v. Biden will probably be the hottest ticket among the coming debates. Definitely worth watching.”
Joe Biden? The man who right now is not allowed by the campaign to go to McDonalds without adult supervision? That Joe? It will be an impossible task for Ryan not to make America feel sorry for Joe. Ryan might say something as devastating as “Good evening, Joe”. And Joe says, BFD! And America weeps.
Good choice. Now, the electoral debate is cast to be free markets vs. socialism, sound finances vs. sure-to-implode no-budget reckless unchecked spending.
But, but…BUT: what else will Ryan bring? Will he fail like Sarah, who kept silent as McCain evaded critical issues, or will he bring them up? Face it, the role of the Veep candidate was hyper-important last time and is even more so this election. McCain and now Romney are non-candidates, consumate RINOs who would prefer to run a campaign that went out date decades ago. We’ll see what Ryan has, cuz his role is to expand and sharpen the debate, to refuse to triangulate through a political debate framework that has jumped leftward with each of the last several election cycles.
Here’s a start: Prez Barack Hussein is acting illegally with his power grabs on on the coal industry, on welfare, and now on sovereignty (by his de facto legalization of rewarding illegal immigrants.
We’ll see; I’m not optimistic. I’ve never understood what a “Republican strategist” is; but whatever, they ain’t any good at it.
A very courageous choice, but also a choice that indicates Romney knows it will be a landslide for Obama, and that he may as well go down with a fight instead of silently, like Dole or McCain. If there will still be an election in 2016, and not some kind of referendum with predetermined results on the presidency-for-life of the Mugabe/Chavez from Chicago, Ryan will be in pole position to become the nominee and his ideas (which are too radical right now) will have become more palatable to the electorate (again, if there still is something resembling an electorate).
Excellent choice. But then again that’s what good business folks do. Hire and surround themselves with the best. Maybe we’ll finally get Social Security, Medicaid, and Health Care under control. This is a fabulous pick and shows Romney’s commitment to America.
Don’t get me wrong…I am a huge Paul Ryan fan. BUUUUUUUTTTTT….
Am I the only one who is getting flashbacks to McCain/Palin? The entire time that train wreck was going I kept wondering why the GOP felt the need to have two faced McCain, a man who I am hard pressed to find a more liberal member of the GOP, holding back the clear better candidate who had the executive experience, Sarah Palin.
I can’t help but imagine going to the voting booth, realizing the only person I would want to be president out of the four folks on the ticket is going to be stuck behind Oven Mitts.
The conspiracy nut in me almost wants to say that locking up Paul Ryan on the ticket preemptively silences him from leading the criticism of a Oven Mitt Presidency.
Don’t get me wrong, Mitt would be an improvement over the Socialist in Chief we got now…but he sure ain’t going to be the same as Paul Ryan would be.
“The conspiracy nut in me almost wants to say that locking up Paul Ryan on the ticket preemptively silences him from leading the criticism of a Oven Mitt Presidency.”
Oh, come on. Go have a cup of tea and calm down. Do you really think Mitt had time for a consideration like that — wondering who in Congress might criticize him once he’s president? Go give yourself a break — relax — you need it.
If anything, Ryan, as V.P., will not be silent, and will have a good influence on Mitt — who will pay attention to what he thinks and says.
What we have to do is hope and pray that they win.
Lord help us if they don’t.
Haha…true. I need to take a step back. Clearly a Mitt is an improvement on McCain. I swear though, the last presidential cycle was a joke. McCain had ZERO chance. Pretty much he was living proof that the GOP had no concept of what America needed.
But the worst, the single worst thing about McCain’s bid, was that Governor Palin brought the energy, the numbers, and the hope to the campaign, only for McCain and his handlers to continually make mistake after mistake…and then to lay the blame on her.
Say what you will about the Dems…they are smarter on national politics. They use the VP position as sort of the clown. The one that makes the Presidential candidate look better by default. The GOP, for whatever insane reason, has been doing the opposite. Palin was CLEARLY the better candidate than McCain and I recognize that some might disagree with me, but in my mind, Paul Ryan is the stronger candidate than Mitt in every single way other than financial backing.
My fellow Americans, stop looking for what’s wrong and start looking for what’s right.
We’re lucky that 2 guys are even willing to stand up for this country anymore, this country as conceived and dedicated, and are willing to place themselves in the political cesspool to that end.
My fellow Americans, stop looking for what’s wrong and start looking for what’s right.
Great thought. But, I’m afraid it’s too late for that. For example, the debates won’t matter cuz the people Mitt must convert to overcome his inexcusable 11% deficit stopped listening and thinking years ago, and they ain’t gonna start now.
Accentuating the positive can build its own momentum.
I feel an uptick in my spirits.
Call me Pollyanna.
You’re right. When I learned of the choice on my car radio this morning, I felt the best about this election than I have in years. Great choice. If nothing else, the two bring honesty and, most important, credibility to the contest.
Now we’ll see what critical issues they address. Historically presidential elections have had one or two critical issues; in these they’re piling up, after 40 yrs of globo-socialist incrementalism. They both seem like good guys; neither has a personal history of anti-Americanism, racism, socialism, mysteries about citizenship, or even the toughest nick of all: affinity for Moslem takeover (Cris Christie, Rick Perry and others, have that problem).
I wish that Mr Simon had not used that nauseous word, “charisma” and applied it to Ryan.
That infamous 52% voting for the Chameleon Obama were voting for shallow cool-charisma.
Ugh.
Charisma is good. It helps with leadership.
It’s a pity when all else is ignored and it takes #1 spot.
When it’s bad is when Charisma is paired with stealth or even evil intentions. Need I say more?
Romney/Ryan are going to have to be light on their feet. The MSM and Obama campaign aren’t going to give them a platform for their messaging. They’re going to have to take it and make it. All the while be able to deal with in the moment issues yet not be subsumed by them. They might not be ABLE to win as one trick ponies, even if that pony seems the Clydesdale on the ranch. Its a big country with a lot of problems, not all economic ones. I think these two are able to address the whole range even if economic policy is their forte.
The Ryan pick sends an answer from Romney. It answers the question: what kind of Republican is Mitt?
The Ryan pick sends a quesrion and challenge to the electorate. It proposes the question: what kind of governance do you prefer? The contrast couldn’t be more stark.
Romney has not sought to split the middle with Obama as McCain seemed to be trying to do. Romney has staked out all the territory from the right wall to the Blue Dogs, cramming Obama into an unwinnable left wall only position.
This is now Romney’s election to lose. Will he be the ’69 Cubs or Mets?
Agree with your analysis. Ryan is in no way a defensive pick by Romney; it’s pure offense.
Mitt had my vote, sort of with the feeling of “any warm body but Obama”..now I can be excited ….Ryan a believing Catholic beside a believing Mormon beats a quasi-Muslim any day…I always felt Obama to be a believer of “anything” only for the photo opt…The Lord has smiled on the USA today.
The choice is almost irrelevant. If Romney loses, it will not be because of Paul Ryan.
One third of America will vote for Obama. One third of America will vote against Obama. Our next President will be chosen by the remaining voters, and perhaps the odd dead guy, who will vote the straight Democratic ticket. Will Paul Ryan deliver a majority of these votes?
His sole strength is that our economy is collapsing and he knows one problem, government spending. The media knows him, and hates him. Very few Americans know he walks on this earth. The media will teach the unwashed middle, about him, or any Romney pick.
America’s problem will not be solved by Paul Ryan. If it is solved, it will because average Americans suck it up, and face reality, Washington D. C. has destroyed our kids’ future. If they blow their choice, selecting no hope and disastrous change, Ryan can do nothing to rescue them.
If they wake up, he would be infinitely more effective if he stayed in Congress. It needs help.
The fight has been joined.
Amen.
Let’s do this thing.
A risky choice perhaps. But positive proof that Romney is serious about solving problems. I hope that the Romney Campaign committee has the good sense to let Ryan be Ryan.
I just made my first contribution to the campaign. It won’t be my last.
kaba
Our economy never would have gotten so bad if obama hussein was Not elected. The distain he shows towards capitalism, and the love he shows toward socialism was enough to make business sit back and wait out his 1st term. As soon as Romney & Ryan win, the confidence alone will re-ignite our market, and unemployment will drop dramatically.
The Whitehouse is no place for a socialist!
I bet obama hussein can get a new job in one of his 57 islamic states.
I bet obama hussein can get a new job in one of his 57 islamic states.
Naw, his prospects of getting the crown (or skullcap) in a Dar al-Islam country, even in his native Kenya, are remote:
1) He was born a Moslem and apostatized. By the rules of Sharia “law” he must be sentenced to execution for the most serious religious crime. Every Moslem, including “moderate” Moslems, know this cold fact. This ain’t like illegal immigration into our once great nation, the law must be enforced.
2) When she signed that UN resolution the OIC drafted for the world to agree to make public criticism of Islam a felony, Hillary earned a rightful big reward from the Ulema and Ummah. It took a degree from Yale Law Tool to be able to pull that stunt.
the democrats are bankrupt of any vision or ideas for addressing unemployment and the economy. Their attack dogs, Harry Reid and Debbie Wasserman-Shultz are disgraceful laughingstocks…as is Joe Biden. They are about to embark on a DNC convention that has shortened its schedule, in an unfriendly venue that rejects its platform…complete with importing its own union workers while dissing a readily-available local laborforce in Charlotte with unemployment above the national average……to culminate at “Bank of America Stadium”…which they do not have the stomach to publically name…choosing rather to call it “Panther Stadium”…..
Of course the campaign is about to get uglier, dirtier and further removed from real issues….at least on one side of the fight. Democrats understand that a sweep of both the Senate and the White House is on tap….And that it is very possible that a Supreme Court pick looms over the next 4 to 8 years as well with Ginsberg.
Paul Ryan is kryptonite for Joe Biden…because Ryan’s grasp on facts and figures represents a thousand paper-cuts to a crusty, partison hack whose outrageous gaffes are legendary…and who will be stripped naked in a debate. Neither Biden or Obama can stand under the scrutiny of Ryan’s political skills. He’s smarter than both of them…and they know it. Their only means of defense is to throw mud and excrement….and throw it they will.
The public need only see the contrast that Romney and Ryan will articulate….much better than John McCain did….and see that contrast through the prism of Ronald Reagan’s historic question: Are you better off than you were 4 years ago? Even honest democrats can’t say yes to that question….and certainly the “undecided” can’t either. Game on.
While reading the article and comments two things came to mind.
First, it would not surprise me at all if at the Democratic convention Joe Biden bowed out and Hillary stepped in to fill the void.
Second, please tell me that both Romney and Ryan are already under Secret Service protection. As the real numbers (as opposed to those ginned up with bogus sampling) continue it will occur to some rabid Obama supporter to take out the opposition before it can come to an honest election. Only reason I’m not even more worried is that most of the koolaide drinkers truly believe Obama will win in a landslide either legitimately or in the usual Dem fashion with late “found” votes.
1st point-Good point about Hillary, they may need something like that to excite their base.
2nd point-I think Romney, Ryan, their staff & bodyguards already know how emotionally unhinged, and how dangerous people on the left can be. I’m sure the bodyguards will be at the top of their game!
wait …. 2 pasty WHITE men trying to unseat the most smartest, most eloquent, most patriotic half black mongrel(barry’s word) DICKtator to ever rule the universe ! aaaand…here it come…. that’s just R-A-C-I-S-T ! ! ! ! !
Stating that Ryan has done more to try and solve the financial problems in Congress is like saying someone’s the best hockey player in Ecuador. Ryan voted for the auto bailout and TARP, vastly increasing the size of government, the deficit and the debt. Romney made the case for letting Detroit go bankrupt and that TARP was a huge failure that should never have happened; and then he chooses a running mate who supported them both.
Ryan is a politician who calculated the political wind and changed his main sail accordingly with the emergence of the Tea Party. He is no more a true conservative than Mitt Romney. Ryan’s budget proposals don’t make the government smaller, just grow less. This is like a 400 pound man proclaiming that his diet is working because next year he will weigh 410 pounds instead of the 420 he was projected to weigh. I will not be appeased with these ‘false offerings’ of conservative values.
So, genius, I guess that means you’ll either teach the Republicans a lesson by voting directly for Obama or maintain your “true conservative” purity by voting for a third party and indirectly voting for Obama. I’m really impressed by your genius.
I will not be appeased with these ‘false offerings’ of conservative values.
You’re absolutely right one this, Tex. When a reduction in increase becomes a “cut” the country is in trouble. Just like when a job is created even when there’s a net loss of job.
Ryan himself did the arithmetic that exposed “cuts” as a definition hustle. But the nation has come to accept severe limits in language and arithmetic as the ceiling of what’s possible. Ron Paul is right: the only way to turn back 40 yrs of incrementalism is all at once.
So, genius, I guess that means you’ll either teach the Republicans a lesson by voting directly for Obama or maintain your “true conservative” purity by voting for a third party and indirectly voting for Obama.
The word “purity” is bandied about like the words “extreme” and “radical” are nowadays. This is the so-called Michael Medved argument, which ignores Ronald Reagan’s election, and the ongoing disaster that RINO Socialism Lite has enabled since his “succession” by Prez H.W.
But, your argument here points to the need to reinstitute constitutional law and common sense at the Republican Nomination level; this is where the Republican party must be resuscitated, or at long last discarded for good.
If Romney/Ryan loses this election, it’s finally time to end the Repubican Party has a useless and harmful entity.
Most of the Republican “be nice” disease is at the federal level where the siren song of Georgetown cocktail parties, lobbyist money, and media acclaim is just too much for a lot of them. Out in the states, the Party is very different. That said, many of those who self-identify as “true conservatives” want candidates that could only win in rural districts in The South and Intermountain West; sorry, gotta’ carry some suburbs in Purple states to become President. RonPaul may think that you can undo a century of incremental communism in one fell swoop, but RonPaul can’t win anything outside his district except caucuses and polls where his sycophants have nothing better to do than vote 10K times.
Ryan is about as definitive as you can be on the screaming need to control SS/MC/MC without freaking out the electorate and even he is very vulnerable to the throwing granny over th cliff meme. Frankly, there really aren’t a lot of people in American who want to move their parents from the “old home place” into their home thousands of miles away so they can take care of them in their old age. SS was implemented to get Americans off the farm and give the US a portable industrial workforce; that meant there had to be a way to take care of the old folks with the young folks gone to the factory in the city. You can incrementally refine SS/MM by getting the people off it who never pay into it at all, but you get a voter rebellion if you do anything that forces people who’ve planned their lives without consideration of having to take care of their parents into a position where they might have to take care of their parents. Here angels fear to tred.
Communism has made a century long march to the point where America is at a tipping point. It can be undone, but if you threaten all those things that people have simply come to expect in this Country, you hand the communists the Country. It must be undone as it was done; they’re pretty easy to starve. Even though they did a good job of filling their coffers due to Republican profligacy in the GWB years, they still needed more money; that’s what the stimulus was all about: walking around money for Democrat front groups and apparatchiks. We have a majority of Republican governors, give each one a plan and a few good government accountants and auditors and you can put half the left in jail and the rest out of business but it ain’t as thrilling as electing RonPaul.
And here’s the pointless idiot we know an love, Art Chance conceding defeat from the outset. The most conservative candidate who can win is the goal. Not the least conservative candidate the base maybe can’t stand.
Long ball. Bout time conservatives started playing it.
@Tom Perkins
You know, Tom, like so many self-styled “true conservatives,” you’re just painfully stupid.
Your biggest problem Art, is that you’ve accidenatally said what you actually think several times too often.
Obama plans on spreading the wealth and that we didn’t build that.
You’ve said limited government just means legal pot, and the real job of the Republican party is only to win elections–you like running the numbers up without accomplishing anything.
The real job of the Republican party is to roll back the stupidities the Democrats have gotten away with for 100 years. If you ever believed that, it’s clear you and your sort have forgotten it.
The thought of a future Ryan Presidency with a Tea Party oriented Congress must have you crying in your curdling milk. They won’t be there to be bi-partisan.
In 1980 the goofs seeking a pure candidate had at least two kamikaze candidates to throw their votes away on: John Anderson who ran as an independent and Ed Clark, the Libertarian.
Reagan won because few were attracted to goofdom that year (although the Libertarian Party candidate did get more votes than any pilot of the quadrennial LP suicide mission has since, despite the U.S. voting population being tens of millions larger today). Go back and review what was being said in the print and electronic press about Reagan, he was certainly a flawed candidate laden with the baggage of past positions and bills that he’d signed into law as governor of California – many of which were contrary to what Reagan wanted to stand for in 1980.
Reagan won by an unexpected landslide in 1980 because millions of swing voters stepped into a voting booth and chose the best candidate who could win. Those good people not only spared America four more years of Carter but also put a man in office who reversed American decline and ended the Evil Empire without the nuclear conflagration all the experts insisted would occur.
I will agree with you on one thing though, Pig Farmer. Michael Medved is one annoying guy when he lets those Libertarians get under his skin.
Now go forth and try again.
Were you alive for that campaign? Reagan was the goof, according to the Art Chance’s of the day.
Since he was as conservative–not safe–a candidate as could win, and Carter was Carter, Reagan won.
It remains to be seen if Romney is a discarded opportunity, the selection of Ryan makes that less likely.
Can you name some serious Presidential candidates this past year whom you considered to be “true conservatives”?
And PLEASE don’t mention Ron Paul.
FINALLY! Fiscal conservatism will now articulated to the voters… There is no better spokesman for this than Paul Ryan. GOOD CHOICE MR. ROMNEY!!! We need Romney/Ryan – and we need them now.
True, but as Tex pointed out above, his fiscal conservatism is reticent and somewhat Polyannish. Most troubling of all, his budget plan requires trusting the socialist party to do the right thing in the future, which is extremely unlikely.
A cut is an reduction in absolute inflation-adjusted dollars; Ryan needs to hammer home this reality, as in real numbers put into actual equations. Or, more properly put, we need him to.
Romney will not succed until he savages Obama with “unfair” ads destroying Obama’s personal favorability ratings, and proving that he is not just another Bush-like pnching bag.As a technocrat and post-modern businessman, and a menber of the bipartisan plutocratic elite,he lacks the sense of honor needed to fight back against a demagoguic, marxoid,and vile affirmative-action street thug.The electorate will never trust a candidate who won’t fight;won’t defend his honor, to fight the even more difficult and vicious battle of restoring the US economy, reforming entitlements,tax policy,and stopping middle-class impoverishment.Recently,Romney was unwilling even to defend the boy scouts, or stand with the defenders of the first amendment in the recent Chic Filet controversy.Romney is nothing but a McCain with business experience,and in Ryan, he’s found his Sarah Palin.
Have you see Mitt’s latest “What does it say about Obama’s Character” video?
No, but I will,I hope he goes for Obama’s jugular.
Obie is an appalling President. Romney should be able to beat him with Mike Tyson as running mate. With Ryan, he should win.
If he does lose, I suspect it means that the American electorate is a goner.
Wow, the Facebook shares are already spreading images with all the usual liberal quotes attached. /sigh.
Liberals like me are gloating about this pick. If you want to get your blood boiling, read this New Republic article, explaining Romney picking Ryan so he can blame the upcoming loss on conservatives.
http://www.tnr.com/blog/plank/10635/picking-ryan-isnt-bold-its-highly-risk-averse
ha! from the magazine that once employed stephen glass. should i read your link before or after i read “stop blaming white power music on white power violence,” also in this installment of the new republic?
get a grip d00d
This race has become the adults vs. the children.
Could the Ryan pick force the Dumbocrats into actually discussing a budget?
D.C. has started smelling like dirty diapers ever since the news broke Saturday morning.
And where’s Joe Biden? Off in his room curled up in the fetal position sucking his thumb?
Ryan uses charts to demonstrate his proposals; Obama’s clan thinks a chart is a diagram for a ski slope.
The hysterical comments of Cynical Wonder here, and the many dems on TV, tell me how good this choice of Ryan really is. They are deathly scared of him, because they know the campaign will now be based on economics, the role of government, and the manifest failure of Obamas policies, a debate the dems will lose, rather than their daily panderfest of special interest givaways, distractions, and lies.